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Fans must take the sectarian sting out of Miller's tale



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Published Date: 15 June 2008
THE FORMER Hibs, Dundee, Falkirk and Dunfermline Athletic player Tam McManus is Kenny Miller's lifelong friend. Now with Colorado Rapids in the Major Soccer League, McManus keeps an eye on his old chum. This is what he said: "There may be doubters among the support, but I can assure them Kenny is 100 per cent focused on doing the business. There's always that little bit extra focus when you've played for the other half of the Old Firm but if Kenny can score the winner in his fir
Except that McManus made those remarks in May, 2006, when Miller had just signed for Celtic after a spell at Wolves.

His sentiments are entirely accurate, however, as one Maurice Johnston would testify. In July 1989, when Johnston signed for Range
rs instead of re-signing for Celtic, he became the club's first high-profile Roman Catholic player in modern times. Owner David Murray and manager Graeme Souness had been determined to end Rangers' policy of signing only non-Catholics, and they did so in spectacular fashion by signing a former Celtic hero.

Some fans of the Ibrox club vowed never to return, some burned their scarves, but many others were delighted that the club was shaking off shackles that had stopped them signing good players.

In his second Old Firm match as a Rangers player, Johnston scored the only goal of the game two minutes from time. In a split second, he became the darling of the Rangers' support, and he did it again by scoring the winner twice more against Celtic.

Johnston went on to score 51 goals in 110 games for Rangers. In his first season, Rangers went on to win the league for the second successive time, and did so for 11 of the next 14 seasons with teams that had numerous Catholic players.

Fast forward to the second half of the 2007-08 season and the following ditty sung repeatedly by a fair proportion of the Rangers support: "You can stick your Kenny Miller up your arse." And all because the Ranger turned Celt turned Derby County player was rumoured to be coming back to Ibrox.

A Catholic might be okay, but a former Celtic player? Even one who has played 37 times for Scotland, scoring 11 goals? Apparently not, and of course, every fan who sang that song did so because Miller was rubbish, and nothing to do with his topsy-turvy allegiances… aye, right.

When Miller signed for Rangers for the second time on Friday, he was greeted in some quarters the way George W Bush might be welcomed if he walked alone down Baghdad High Street. The player knew he wasn't exactly going to get the red carpet treatment, but did he really deserve the bile and hatred that has poured out in radio phone-ins and on the internet?

According to fans on the BBC's open-to-view 606 Rangers website, paid for by licence payers, Miller "runs like a headless chicken… we've just wasted a chunk of our transfer fee on a Celtic reject… he is not welcome at Ibrox… kissed the Septic badge after scoring against us."

Despite resurrecting a fallow club and giving them a season to remember including two trophies, Walter Smith came in for mind-boggling opprobrium: "Kenny Miller will prove to be the first nail in Wattie's Rangers career. The fans didn't want him. Wattie carried on regardless." Those were just some of the printable ones. We won't even bother going into the sectarian bile heaped on the former Celt.

The real reason for Miller's signing by Smith is obvious. The Rangers manager has realised that last season's cautious approach – not anti-football, but defensive-minded – can bring only limited returns, and more goals must be scored, which by definition requires more attacking play.

"There are areas of the pitch where we could be doing with more flair, but in Scotland we really only have one winger in our country in Aiden McGeady," said Smith in a revealing interview last month.

"Yes, we could do with someone like that, but unfortunately it would cost a lot of money. If not, then experience tells us to look in another direction."

Smith operates on a limited budget, and can't pay for real flair. His decision has clearly been to get someone affordable into the Rangers' strike force who can both run with the ball or hold the ball up until the midfielders arrive at the charge. In short, a workhorse. To most right-thinking Rangers fans, it should not matter where Miller has been, it should matter only where he is going. Emulate Maurice Johnston and score a few winners against Celtic, and they will happily kiss the place they sang about sticking him.

RANGERS have been given the go-ahead to sign Viking Stavanger striker Andrius Velicka. The Norwegian club have reluctantly agreed to let the former Hearts frontman leave them for a fee expected to be around £1m, and the deal is set to go through next month.

Velicka, 29, has already confirmed his appetite for a move to Ibrox and personal terms are not expected to present a problem, with Rangers chief executive Martin Bain set to conduct negotiations.

Viking sporting director Egil Ostenstad said: "I have had a very good dialogue with Martin Bain. Andrius has been given permission to discuss a contract with Rangers over the next few days. At this stage in his career it wouldn't have been right for us to block a move to one of the biggest clubs in Europe. He will earn considerably more than he earns at Viking."







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  • Last Updated: 15 June 2008 2:08 PM
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BEMUSED EXILE,

15/06/2008 00:10:31
I personally have no issue with Kenny Miller signing for Rangers. I think that there are plenty of goals in him. He had two very prolific Championship campaigns with Wolves, but his two stints in the Premiership were with struggling clubs and scoring opportunities were few and far between.

Celtic didn't get the best out of him, and more learned observers of football than me will have their own theories as to why. But for me, he is a good signing, and a player who can score in big games; an OF match; CL games for both Rangers and Celtic; the only goal of a Premiership match against Man Utd at Old Trafford; and a double-figure International return.

His work-rate and a few goals will win most of the Ibrox sceptics over, and KM and Velicka will do a more convincing job for Rangers than Cousin and Darchville, who seemed to spend most of last season unfit and disinterested.
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Backofthenet,

15/06/2008 00:16:47
Not bothered about Miller signing either. Decent player (though far from a great one) who might be a good foil for Boyd.

There is nothing "sectarian" about the objections of some Rangers fans to this signing. As far as I know, Miller is from a Protestant background. And there is nothing sectarian about simply disliking Celtic (or Rangers for that matter). A lot of fans really do think he's not good enough and want better players bought with the considerable money the club has brought in recently.

As for the BBC's 606 messageboard, if there really was "sectarian bile" on it (and I notice the alleged "bile" is not specified) I doubt if it would have lasted long.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

15/06/2008 00:30:54
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I believe that Kenny flew out to the USA for a holiday yesterday, so the time differential will mean that he won't be going to bed for a few hours yet, and as a regular visitor to those shores, I know to my cost that a good sleep on the first night can prove very elusive, even with my warm words to soothe him.

I realise that he's no Chris Killen or Derek Riordan, but we'll just have to get by.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

15/06/2008 00:42:04
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Correct. You're not pinning your hopes on Killen or Riordan, but if what we read here is to be believed, you could have a strike force of Lafferty and Stokes.

Go on, take the Aiden money. You get a player thrown in, and you can use it to sign McFadden and bring back Maloney.

You know it makes sense.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

15/06/2008 00:57:06
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Strange world if you can afford to spend £4 million on Lafferty and use him as a fringe player behind VoH.

Maloney has stated that his only reason for maybe leaving Villa is his need for first team football, so who's stepping aside to accommodate him? Clearly not either of the strikers or McGeady, so it's either Brown or Nakamura, with "steal of the season" Robson getting pushed further back down the queue.

And what happened to Samaras? Not staying?
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 15/06/2008 01:03:31
bemused..you still sound a bit sore from last season..i think you dont need to fret about celtic..we are the champions and if rangers are leading with miller next season i too will start the 4 in a row campaign now xxx
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow.. 15/06/2008 01:05:15
just one last point before bed time..celtic wont play their 2nd highest earner (alledgedly) rangers couldnt afford to play buffel..so as i say worry about your own team of runners up xxx
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Fayneant,

NZ 15/06/2008 01:08:36
Kenny MIller is a straight replacement for Cousin in a 4-5-1 formation - a position he played for Smith while boss at Scotland. There's no guarantee that he and Boyd will play as a steady partnership in a 4-4-2. Why do people assume that? Just because Boyd did a U turn on his decision to leave?

That said, I think he's a good signing. Those who don't want him because he played for Celtic should grow up. Fair dues to the boy too for having the guts to sign up
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BEMUSED EXILE,

15/06/2008 01:13:49
sonofcosmos

Nobody here worrying on either side from what I can see.

You edged the title so you think that you're the better team. We won both cups and reached a European final so we think that we're the better team. That's just normality.

Ref Boyd/Miller etc, I think that Velicka might have a substantial part to play. He's costing less than Miller, but that's only because he's coming from Norway rather than England.

Let's wait and see.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

15/06/2008 01:20:02
Of course I've heard that it's a squad game, Tim, but as I said, Maloney is only thinking about moving because he wants first-team football, so being part of a squad isn't a lot of use to him, is it?

It's also a squad game at Ibrox, so why do you assume that Miller is a certain starter when Velicka, Boyd, Novo and possibly JCD could be there, not to mention the interest in Lafferty and the Sporting Lisbon lad?

Whittaker and Naismith joined for £2 million fees last summer, but it didn't help them command automatic starting slots.
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Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

15/06/2008 01:24:56
Velicka played quite well on occassion at Hearts, but at the end of the day , he couldn't establish himself in the starting 11 ...Chris Killen anyone? ...and he DID establish himself at Hibs.

As regards Lafferty, his track record is spectacularly unimpressive, but Strachan must see something in his game that he can work on and turn him into a player.
I just think the price is a bit high for what would be an experimental project. Still, if GS thinks that Lafferty can be moulded into a top striker, I'm happy to trust his judgement.
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ThatsWhyWereChampions,

london 15/06/2008 03:26:07
remarkable how the rangers fans -almost to a man woman and child- on FF are absolutely raging with this signing yet the rangers fans on here are saying its not a bad signing

who are we to believe?

the 'lunatic fringe' on FF or the 'dont show any weakness no matter what' crowd on here?

one things for sure, the celtic fans having got rid of such an average player for £3mil are loving it
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Finnharp,

15/06/2008 04:27:04
Is this going to be the best you can come up with, 6 mil to spend an already half gone, all my ReaRanger fans mates tell me thats all WS is getting to spend, surely this cannot be true, Miller & Velicka is not the answer to stopping 4 in a row.

But from what I read both Celtic & ReaRangers will sign about 20 players each and spend abour 50 mill, they are linked to every defender, midfielder & forward at the 08 Euro's.

I cannot see McGeady leaving just yet 1-2 more seasons, they he will get it no CL, so every other trophy he already has must move on, but not to Sunderland unless its a stepping stone to Man U.

Anyway if that's ReaRangers market.

Then 4 IN-A-ROW HERE WE GO + CL last 8
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freewheelin franklin,

london 15/06/2008 04:34:42
i have no personal problem with miller and i wish him all the best.but smith should not have bought him. we have standards
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jocktamson,

aberdeenshire 15/06/2008 04:36:13
bemused exile, #7, that's an interesting one. suppose we did get, for arguments sake, £10M for aiden mcgeady, including, or excluding, anthony stokes' transfer value... hmmm...

so, we'd lose the scottish player of the year, ok. but we'd sign a guy who was romping away in the goalscoring charts after 5 months, and a former SPL player of the year (only a couple of years ago) and the one truly class player scotland have.

i wouldn't want to see aiden mcgeady go, but if he could be replaced with those, reaistically, higher if not highest profile players we could attract whilst offering prospective suitors a lack of competative environment... it'd have to be considered.

would i take stokes, mcfadden and maloney in return for mcgeady. i remember liam miller... and i think that wouldn't be a bad bit of business. i certainly wouldn't humiliate my club by besmirching a cup final by concentrating on telling my manager which orifice his new signings should be inserted suppository like.

as regards the tone of the article... i doubt many rangers fans have any great sectarian objection to kenny miller. he'd seem a less likely target for sectarianism than, say, lorenzo amoruso or nacho novo, and they became pretty popular. perhaps rangers fans have just become utterly abhorred at the prospect of an attacking footballer, such has been the dearth of said phenomenon recently. perhaps they just genuinely don't rate him as a footballer. many celtic fans don't. i must admit, i do. i think, within their means, rangers have, again, made a good signing. my opinion of course. time will tell.

however, perhaps, they simply can't cope with signing an ex-celtic player. being honest, that's not sectarianism, just rivalry. possibly more acutte in scotland than in other environs, but hardly a putrefying pustule on the national game. to regard "the enemy" with distrust is natural, but in the case of kenny miller it's a curious one.

when he was at rangers he probably (i haven't chec
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freewheelin franklin,

london 15/06/2008 04:37:07
also #30 mcgeady at man u? you are joking im assuming
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jocktamson,

aberdeenshire 15/06/2008 04:39:07
when he was at rangers he probably (i haven't checked) enjoyed the most prolific goalscoring spell of his career. i seem to recall a barrowload against saint mirren on afternoon (5, i think) and at that point, he scared me and most celtic fans. neither celtic, nor rangers fan that i've spoken too ever doubted his dedication to their club, hibs fans for that matter either. furthermore, the red adair of rangers molecular dismantling, walter smith, was his scotland boss, and not only rated him highly enough to play him for the national team, but witnessed enough in that spell to have the confidence to shell out (variously, depending on reports) £1.5M/£2M of tight money on him.

i think this cuts much deeper than the simplicity of sectarian hatred. possibly.

it's the response from those rangers supporters who, for many years, were spoon fed a diet of prospective signings such as ronaldo (the slighly overweight victim of a balckmail sting, not the guy signing for real madrid for 25 squillion quid). it's the response that, even with such mastery of self promotion, the higher echelons of their club can no longer play fantasy football. it's the realisation that the pot is bare and that's if they've still got one left to relieve themselves within. it's the knowledge that what goes round comes round, and after a spell of success for rangers, much as there was for celtic in the 60s and 70s, so too there must come a period of introspective failure.

i feel it's not that they have an axe to bear against kenny miller, or walter smith, although, incredibly, in some quarters the knives are out, et tu watty. it's simply that "ra peepul" feel they deserve better.

sadly, for them, kenny miller is the blockbuster signing. get used to it, he's not wayne biggins. although he might also be available should walter need to strengthen his forward line this summer. there won't be any more gazzas, laudrups or probably even prodans for a few years until the television market saturate
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jocktamson,

aberdeenshire 15/06/2008 04:40:13
sadly, for them, kenny miller is the blockbuster signing. get used to it, he's not wayne biggins. although he might also be available should walter need to strengthen his forward line this summer. there won't be any more gazzas, laudrups or probably even prodans for a few years until the television market saturates or implodes. and in the prodan, or rozenthal, or negri, or thern, kuznetsov, et al reminiscence comes the reason for the ibrox coffer paucity. therein lies the reason why, far from "we'll sign this international as a squad player" rangers are now rebelling against their "he wasn't good enough for us a few years ago, and now we'll build the team around him" the ibrox hordes are revolting.

for the record, i'd have him back at celtic. i liked him as a player. i just wouldn't want to depend on him to make the difference between being also rans and champions.

as regards the rudiments of communication, #12, some learn to type, some learn to think. i wouldn't dare slag your education since i have no idea what it entailed. i do however know, that the important thing regarding communication is the concept, not the handwriting, spelling, grammar or punctuation. so i left all my capitals in lower case... feel free to blow a gasket.

incidentally, i have no revulsion towards kyle lafferty, but i feel that should the four millionesque fee quoted be near reality, there are far finer, more accomplished players we could invest that money in. possibly even the aforementioned aiden mcgeady, £2m would secure his £40,000 a week services for 5 years, a mutually (presumably) beneficial relationship. taken like that, perhaps the author, martin hannan, will realise, sometimes criticism within football relates to football matters, even in glasgow. i realise it's a hrd concept to grasp outwith glasgow, that some people actually support football teams for... football reasons, but not everything is centred on hatred.

of course, the wicked part of me wants rangers to go o
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jocktamson,

aberdeenshire 15/06/2008 04:40:57
of course, the wicked part of me wants rangers to go out and sign c. ronaldo, kaka, robben, torres and lampard. it's just be so much sweeter when we emerge victorious. again.

apologies for the long post.
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KingKenny,

15/06/2008 06:04:30
Tam McManus and Kenny Deuchar fine MLS..But Hope Two Players return SPL.
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CaliforniaBhoy,

15/06/2008 07:20:05
The knuckledraggers will never understand that the "loyalty" to whatever club is not the prime motivator in a player's career choice. It's MONEY! Kennny is a pro, it's about the paycheck and that's the way it should be.

I liked him when he played for Celtic. Fantastic workrate! He put in a great shift. Had a problem finishing!

Best of luck at Ibrox!

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Paisley Bear,

15/06/2008 08:31:43
Miller is cra*, end of!

The bias from this so called journalist is there for all to see. Funny how when we have signed Albert, Amoruso and many other non Protestants, no one mentioned it. But hey! now we don't want this dud, it's sectarian because he once played for the mutton molestors from breezeblock towers.

Amazing how many of these craicsters from the slum end of town are utterly obsessed with all things Rangers.....
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Fayneant,

NZ 15/06/2008 08:38:41
30 - Finn - had Rangers not been hit with playing a shed load of fixtures in the last month of the season, Celtic would not have 3 in a row. Deep down you know it's true.

Miller's signing is similar to that of Lee McCulloch last season - not many Rangers fans (including myself) wanted to see 'half' of the transfer budget blown on a so-so player, one that Smith knew well from his Scotland days - well, guess what? He turned out to be one of the better players of last season.

Given half a chance, Miller will do a job for Rangers next season. WGS may yet look a little sheepish for not getting the best out of the boy. I'd love to see a Rangers front line of Riordan and KM ripping the sh1t out of the SPL next season.....ahhhh if only...!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 08:44:03
I wish Kenny Miller all the best on a personal level since I think he did a good job for us-although as a rangers player, obviously I hope he fails miserably!
Scot McDonald and Venegoor of Hesselink are both better than him anyway.
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 08:47:47
"had Rangers not been hit with playing a shed load of fixtures in the last month of the season, Celtic would not have 3 in a row. "

As far as I'm concerned we earned it not just for the effort over the whole season, but particularly for how WGS and his side kept their nerve when Rangers was crumbling. The fact that Rangers fans are constructing all kind of elaborate conspiracy theories to try and sooth their hurt just makes it all the sweeter to be honest.
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Fayneant,

NZ 15/06/2008 08:53:56
46 - Dickinho - no consipiracy theory, chum - just the facts. Celtic held their nerve to win it, yes, but had Rangers gone out of the UEFA Cup earlier, they would ahve won the SPL. You were one of the Celtic fans whining about WGS before Rangers started to stumble at the end.

Would you care to comment on the rest of my post?

Miller will be a hit at Rangers. I have no doubt
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Fayneant,

NZ 15/06/2008 08:56:54
44 - Eedaay. Whit's that? He wuz wearin' a green strippet' shurt???

At's it, man - he's banned Sine Die fae my bedroom wa'... Feckin' Tum Baj Kissur....

Oh grow up you tadger.
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:08:38
'You were one of the Celtic fans whining about WGS before Rangers started to stumble at the end.'

Not true. So like a Rangers fan to make accusations without any proof to back them up. I have been a firm supporter of WGS since he won his first league title. Even when Rangers had the opportunity at one point to go 12 points clear of Celtic, I had faith that he could hold his nerve and put the sign over Falter Smith.
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Como Toes,

15/06/2008 09:08:53
Scotland on Sunday must be congratulated by bringing to the attention of its readers the blatant sectarianism that exists in the Scottish game.

Kenny Miller may not be a very good player, but that is no justification for the abuse that will be - and has been - directed at him...........and all because he's a Protestant ex-Celtic player who has chosen to play for Rangers.

Celtic supporters indulging in this disgusting and despicable behaviour are Scotland's real shame.
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london calling,

15/06/2008 09:12:37
What a naff piece of journalism from M Hannan.
K Miller is not wanted by Rangers supporters because
he is the proverbial "headless chicken".
Nothing sectarian in that surely.

How are the celts doing on the japanese tour?
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:12:53
#51 no, Scotlands shame are those rangers fans who attacked paramedics in manchester.
I have yet to hear or read any sectarian 'bile' directed towards Miller by Celtic fans, though no doubt I'll be called 'sectarian' just for saying that I think he's past it and is simply taking Rangers for a ride!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:31:41
#54 lol- The whole world saw Rangers fans rioting in Manchester. Go to youtube if you want to see the 're-runs'. Sure, go and deny it if you want, that make it all the funnier!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:33:42
'Who were the better signings....Weir and Dailly or the above 2 idiots?'

Too funny- Comparing Celtic's two biggest 'duds' to Rangers two best players! Just remind me what Weir and Dailly won with Rangers--oh, a diddy cup and the Bells Challenge Trophy!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:39:16
#57 wouldn't read that rag, myself. No doubt they and the rest of the laptop loyal (when not trying to inflate the value of every rangers dud) will be installing rangers as title favourites for the 38th year in a row!

Rangers: World record holders of the Pre-Season Cup!
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at my desk dummy 15/06/2008 09:39:26
how wonderful to have the steak pie fc fans on telling us about being scotlands shame. No mention of the arrests in Blackburn, stabbings in Holland, planes diverted to Cardiff on the way back from ra suvul (100,000 of them were there you know) continued support of an outlawed terrorist group, not to mention the support of those who killed our brave soldiers who fight to give you scum the freedoms you take for granted.

oh and lets not mention the 60's and 70's, I wouldn't want to accuse anyone of their lack of awareness
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:41:27
#59 Tell us about the stuff that you haven't made up though!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:42:55
#60 my oh my, you really are obsessed with Celtic aren't you! Haven't you got your own team to worry about?
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15/06/2008 09:46:57
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You have to ask yourself why it is that Celtic fans are welcomed all over Europe , yet when Rangers go, they call in the riot police.

Manchester was an experiment : treat them like human beings and they might behave as such.

Alas, it proved to be a misjudgement, and the old addage , more or less alluded to by Stuttgart Police a few years ago, holds true : if they behave like animals, treat them as such.

Incidentally, when Celtic travelled to Stuttgart in 2003, there was a party atmosphere and the police used part time officers in ordinary uniform...2 years later, , Rangers were met by thousands of specially trained riot police drafted in from all over Germany and Rangers fans were martialed to and from the stadium under the gaze of several of Strathclyde's finest flown into Germany to point out the most shameful of Scotland's Shame.
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Dr No,

15/06/2008 09:49:41
Miller is a very poor striker. The fact that a lot of Rangers fans don't want him is not sectarian. Has it got to the point in this country that you can't have an opinion on something football related because without people saying it's sectarian. I think some of the journalists need to take a look at themselves. The numpty who wrote this tripe mentions a BBC website paid for by the licence payers.What is his point Rangers supporters are also licence payers. If you want to go looking on any football related website you will always be able to pick out comments that offend. What normal people then do is either ignore them or don't use the website. Not write an article about it!
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Keyboard supporter,

15/06/2008 09:50:18
#65 - Brilliant - the craicsters on tour - everyone just luuuuuves you!

Call the UN - Get yourself over to Kabul and Baghdad and spread your love of all men and sort the world to rights.
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finbar offended,

15/06/2008 09:50:59
post 61

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0CWU/is_2003_Jan_6/ai_96144165

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/main.jhtml?xml=/sport/2002/12/18/sfncel18.xml

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-485630/UEFA-wait-report-Celtic-fan-assault-Dida.html

The lighter throwing, coin throwing, pitch invading, terrorist supporting, referee intimidating TGFITW


AYE RIGHT
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Keyboard supporter,

15/06/2008 09:54:02
#71 - C'mon thats unfair - everyone knows they were all perpetrated by the infamous "Juan Guy" - the craicsters don't do things like that!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:57:43
#71 It just gets better-the rangers fans are really trying to make a comparison between the Celtic fans who ran onto the pitch and tapped Dida, and hundreds of Rangers fans chasing after a police man and trying to kick him to death!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 09:58:55
#73 Unlike Rangers famous refrain-"it was only two hundred (out of 200 million)guys!"
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 10:01:01
Can't believe finbar actually spent his Sunday morning looking for those links!
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Keyboard supporter,

15/06/2008 10:06:21
As usual ANY Rangers story (which consequently becomes part of the global anti-sellik conspiracy) degenerates into usual dhim suspects regurgitating same old mince - Richardinho,riot survivor, mot juste (Pax) and the singularly cerebral Minty moonbeam just can't help themselves - utterly consumed by their loathing of all things Rangers - an aneurysm beckons methinks!
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Moderator's Big Brother,

Behind the scenes 15/06/2008 10:08:21
Can we please keep it to football.

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Moderator's Big Brother,

15/06/2008 10:10:47
People, how many goals will KM score next season?

I will go for 12
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Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them (especially if you are from Manc 15/06/2008 10:19:19
Stinkgers FC stew in hatred and KM will have a nightmare on his hands.

Stinkgers FC, Scotlands shame
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paulmac,

surrey 15/06/2008 10:20:29
Kenny Miller was our 4th choice striker....says it all really!
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paulmac,

surrey 15/06/2008 10:21:37
#81

Only if you play 90+ games next season...and he plays in every one!
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paulmac,

surrey 15/06/2008 10:23:16
Wattie will not change from the 4-5-1....so who will be the lone striker?......Miller?
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Moderator's Big Brother,

15/06/2008 10:25:23
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I think he might just do that. Miller can play the lone striker's role, in fact he's in his element doing so.

Miller will do a job but it will not be enough to wrest the title from Celtic.
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paulmac,

surrey 15/06/2008 10:26:07
#74

It's all they have......oh and correction....1 fan ran on to celebrate.....Rangers fans would have you believe he ran on with a colt 45 and blew Dida's heid aff!

When they are left with no comparison....then exageration and lies become their bedfellow!
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finbar offended,

15/06/2008 10:28:00
once again, the fans of steak pie fc can't face the truth about their fans so resort to chilish name calling more suitable to playgrounds (were most of TGFITW will be found hanging about)


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15/06/2008 10:28:10
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Dida would have you believe that too!
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 10:29:06
"Only if you play 90+ games next season.."

Have you been reading Peter Lawell's secret dossier?
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finbar offended,

15/06/2008 10:30:25
post 87


so the other mob of celtic fans who broke through the security barriers dont count then


or the four fans who ran on the pitch in 1999, along with the dafty who threw himself of the top tier of The San Giro


I tell ya, That Jaun Guy gets everywhere
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Moderator's Big Brother,

15/06/2008 10:31:02
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Report any offensive posts if you feel strongly about it.

In fact if everyone reported offensive posts these forums would be cleaner but practically non-existant.

So unless it's seriously offensive I suggest just give a bit back but do it with wit and intelligence and avoid the gutteral approach adopted by some.
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Moderator's Big Brother,

15/06/2008 10:34:14
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1999? Jeeze ancient history or what? Where will this stop Hampden 1980? Barca 1972? Hampden 1969? or Hampden 1965? Or...1906? yeah just where will it stop?
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 10:35:55
Celtic fan dropped a sweetie wrapper outside Ibrox in 1894..
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Moderator's Big Brother,

15/06/2008 10:36:43
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Was it a green sweetie wrapper?
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Richardinho,

15/06/2008 10:40:23
Why, did you pick it up?
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jocktamson,

15/06/2008 10:48:25
#88... "once again, the fans of STEAK PIE FC can't face the truth about their fans so resort to chilish name calling"

and today's remedial english question...

define irony?
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forbesy1873,

15/06/2008 10:52:19
Miller was signed to be a foil for Boyd and they will score 50+ goals next season with Boyd share being 30+

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Moderator's Big Brother,

15/06/2008 10:55:34
Can hear the commentary next season....

"And Miller is through, one on one with Boruc, can he finish, OOOOhhhhh nearly....And the Ballboy has set off on his marathon run down Copeland Rd...don't switch off, we will have continued live coverage of this under 14 event"

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Moderator's Big Brother,

15/06/2008 10:56:55
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Cheap mate. Very cheap.
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finbar offended,

15/06/2008 10:58:24
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but very true


you can't deny that
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bring them on,

15/06/2008 11:04:00
Miller will do OK. No more, no less.

I doubt if the fans will give him much stick once the games start.
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Silence of the Yams,

15/06/2008 11:35:10
110. You ARE Scotland's Shame, not Celtic. Absolute disgraceful so called football club.
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jocktamson,

15/06/2008 11:43:51
right, so, let me get this right...

who did she play for?

scotland?

my memories of the event must be hazy, since i was in the pub, having a few beers, in mourning, naturally. you have to mourn the loss of an adultress who sends her kids away to another country to be educated, eh?

of course, other casual observers may have assumed phil o'donnell, for instance, had a rather more realistic link to celtic, than that with the queen of decree ni si and the scottish national team.

you never did answer, who did she play for?
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london calling,

15/06/2008 11:48:47
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Should you tgfitw not be at the chippyapple at this time of day?
Or are you just plastic catholics more interested in hating the world record holders?

Oops seems i answered my own questions........
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jocktamson,

15/06/2008 11:52:10
anyway, i'm a bit concerned that with walter's youth policy running as it is we might see a lot more games postponed next season s your first team squad simply come to the end of their natural lives...

no wonder your players are aye on the auchenhowie treatment table... imagine trying to dominate europe with a hip replacement.

i suspect it's part of sir minty moonbeam's masterplan to cut down rearrangers travelling expenses by getting the first team squad to travel to games using their free bus pass.

i know your club regale about battles that happened over 300 years ago, but surely you don't need to honour the veterans by giving them a gig in central defence.
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Silence of the Yams,

15/06/2008 11:54:08
I'm a protestant who happens to support Hibs. In my forty years I've never once come across, or heard of, a Catholic Rangers supporter, not one!

Glasgow Rangers: the quintessentially shameful club.
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