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Redgrave wants Hoy knighthood delayed until his career is over



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Published Date: 23 August 2008
SIR Steven Redgrave believes triple gold medal cyclist Chris Hoy should not be knighted until he has hung up his cycling boots.
There have been suggestions that Hoy, who has won medals at three Olympics, including a gold in Athens and a silver in Sydney, should be handed the ultimate prize as recognition for his outstanding contribution to British cycling's haul of gold in Be
ijing.

But Redgrave insists it is an honour which should only be conferred on retirement.

Redgrave received his knighthood when he quit rowing with five golds at five consecutive Games and Matthew Pinsent received one after winning four at successive Games.

Redgrave said: "I like recognition for outstanding achievement.

"Should Chris Hoy be knighted? Yes, he will be knighted, I'm sure of that. But after these Games? Maybe not. Matthew gave up after his Games, I gave up after my Games. We were knighted after we retired.

"I do believe he should be knighted but it should be on retirement.

"It is the ultimate. If you knight him now and he goes on to get four gold medals next time or another three or only one what do you then? How do you recognise that?

"You can't. So one of the other honours, yes. He's an MBE, that could be upgraded to a CBE after four and then in four years' time when he wins another hatful he should be knighted.

"If he's going to go on to achieve more that has to be recognised."

Redgrave, who was cheering on taekwondo's Aaron Cook as part of Visa's mentoring programme, also believes the system where honours are automatically conferred on sportsmen who win Olympic golds should be changed.

He said: "I disagree that if you win one Olympic gold medal you should get an MBE. If you win two at different Games you get upgraded to an OBE. If you win three you get upgraded to a CBE. If you get four you get knighted.

"I think that is wrong. It is wrong because as a country we are accepting that five to ten gold medals is acceptable. I think we should be winning 10 to 15 on a regular basis. That is where our medals should be at.

"But you cannot give out those many honours for those people. With all the winners we have here, can you honour all those people in one go? I don't think so."

Redgrave, however, picks Hoy's three gold medals as his outstanding achievement of the Games, better than Michael Phelps's eight golds in the swimming pool and better than Usain Bolt's two sprint titles in world record times.

He said: "Hoy's golds are my moments of the Olympics. Because I'm British. They (Bolt and Phelps) are outstanding achievements but to me the dominance of the British cycling team outshines Phelps."

He also has some words of advice for the Scot on how life might change when he returns to Britain as one the nation's greatest Olympians.

Redgrave said: "He will be recognised wherever he goes and that will stay with him for years and years.

"I know him reasonably well. He'll only be 36 next time so at his fifth Olympics he will be 40, two years older than I was at my last.

"What Chris Hoy has done here is that there will be thousands of cyclists around the world saying 'I fancy doing that.'

"But you can't allow it to change your life if you are an athlete. You can enjoy it but you cannot let it get into your head. You get more recognised, get more sponsorships, get asked to do a lot more things. You get sucked into the charity circuit. A lot more demands are put on your time and you've got to make sure those demands don't take away from what you are going to do in four years' time."





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  • Last Updated: 22 August 2008 10:33 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Chris Hoy , 2008 Olympics
 
1

Regulator,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 04:16:53
A bit of common sense at last. What Hoy has done is brilliant for Britain and Scotland, but agreed, it's too early for the ultimate recognition. What they could start with is recognise that the Meadowbank Velodrome made it possible for him to reach these heights and keep the place open to let others have the same chance.
2

Paul in Oz,

Helensburgh 23/08/2008 04:49:24
Steve Redgrave is a true gent and speaks with sense and authority, how refreshing to have some calm non sensationalist jounalism where the comments are completely justified and make sense.
3

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 23/08/2008 07:21:10
I have to agree with Sir Steve on this. Wait until Chris retires.

I have nothing against the British honours system, although it is a bit hit and miss. Nothing against the lady but Dame Kelly Holmes after two golds was a prime example of Tony Blair jumping on a media bandwagon and opening a fine can of worms.

The one that really gets up my nose is "Sir" Geoff Hurst, but Mr Denis Law, or Mr Kenny Dalglish.

In fact, why doesn't Alex Slamond institute a Scottish honour for our sporting greats? They don't always get the recognition they deserve from the English-dominated British system.
4

spiderman,

Argyll 23/08/2008 07:22:29
Personally I am totally fed up with seeing and hearing Redgrave and Pinsent pontificating on all sorts of issues way beyond their speciality. They're everywhere, overpublicised and incredibly pompous and annoying. Anyway, keep your opinions about oor Chris to yourself, Redgrave. The honours system is illogical and rubbish anyway so Chris may as well have his knighthood while he's hot!
5

Media 1,

cape town 23/08/2008 08:15:43
I think Britain should stop dishing out silly titles to sports men and women and begin recognising top level doctors, engineers, social workers, nurses, firemen, policemen and other vital skills and positions.
Imagine calling a guy who rows a boat Sir? Cmon, think about it. Whilst the world is ticking over, workers working, economies growing, markets trading and people doing their bit, there are some people rowing a wee boat up a river or riding a bike round a track and we must call them sir because the person wearing the crown in the big council house says so. hahahahaha!
British people have lost the plot
6

Richard Taylor,

Aberdeen 23/08/2008 08:49:45
#5 - absolutely correct.
7

viking nz,

newzealand 23/08/2008 09:03:35
what about being on the dole for ten years dosent that deserve something , hard to beleive this is actually a discussion point in this paper , riding a bike get a life .
8

JT,

23/08/2008 11:27:07
If that is the case why did the england rubgy and cricket team automatically got gongs for winning the world cup and ashes (now since relinquished to superior teams). It seems that its very easy to get awards if you are an english sports star rather than welsh, scots or irish! but then the government choses who gets them not the queen.
9

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 11:35:53
8 JT
Why do people have to look continually for some nationalist slant.
The awards you mentioned were not knighthoods they were MBEs. Loads of active sportsmen have MBEs. As the article points out, Chris Hoy has one already. Why don't you learn the facts before you launch into a paranoid nationalist rant.
10

Ugly George,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 11:53:23
8JT
PS Gavin Hastings was awarded an OBE (a higher award than an MBE) in 1994 while he was still playing but he was never part of a world cup winning side. I trust you can now see that your point is without foundation.
11

Nimrodel1353,

Edinburgh 23/08/2008 13:40:04
Re the England Rugby and Cricket teams:

I think the Rugby guys deserved something, but possibly only Martin Johnson as captain, and Woodward as (titular, at least), Head Coach. They went and won a tournament, and for a couple of years before that were a great team, beating all the Southern Hemisphere teams in their own backyard.

However!. the Ashes team all getting awards was a fiasco. They won one series, and have done nothing since. As #3 says, old Tony jumping on the bandwagon. Plus, you didn't see any of the Rugby guys staggering around legless like Freddie Filntoff - a real role model! I'm sure the rugby boys had a few (more than that in some cases), but they knew when and where.
12

Class On Grass,

Trackside, Brechin 23/08/2008 14:49:50

The english teams get awards for winning one tourney, but are the other (more usual) winners - NZ SA, Oz, not entitled to these awards also, or are they seen as a separate nation, not under the auspices of queen and commonwealth for these sports?
Regarding knighthoods only when you retire - is this not against the whole root and tradition of knights?
Who wants old codgers on cuddies trying to jab each other with lances when they turn 65?
13

Class On Grass,

Tackside, Brechin 23/08/2008 14:51:31
- Ok strike out SA
14

The Great Wilson,

St Andrews 23/08/2008 15:01:14
Our European partners find the British honours system laughable - so do I. It is impossible to find an equivalence between various types of 'services' to aspects of our society. 'Honours' are bought by rich people, condescendingly bestowed on the occasional street crossing attendant or janitor, and dished out with the rations to members of the military and civil services. What's the solution? Why not have just one 'honour' for everybody, and scrap the whole jumble of medieval/Imperial nonsense? Arise, Sir or Dame Everybody!
15

Peter Baleares,

Palma 23/08/2008 15:18:30
Star o Rabbie Burns,

Re: Geoff Hurst, I think a clue might be that he was part of a team that won the world cup, the same as the England rugby team, the ashes is the cricket equivalent, good as he was, what did Dennis and Kenny ever win at that level to warrent a Knighthood?

16

Peter Baleares,

Palma 23/08/2008 16:12:53
You Scots are very big on your own heritage, you know Kilts, the pipes, highland games ect, as are most of our neighours in europe, tell me The great Wilson, why do you think that Britain should not be as proud of our own heritage.......... nothing to do with the chip on your shoulder I suppose?
17

Class On Grass,

Trackside, Brechin 23/08/2008 16:15:39
Ok I´ll bite. The ashes, a world equivalent? A 2-team event? Even if so, then again, do the Ozzies not deserve honours?
Bring back jousting. First off: Elton John vs Jimmy Saville
18

Peter Baleares,

Palma 23/08/2008 18:52:02
17 Class On Grass,

Bite ???,That was not my intention, I was replying to post, assuming that you agree with my view on Geoff Hurst, Dennis Law, as you have not mentioned it only my cricket comment.

If you dont already know, the Australian cricket team have argueably been the best team ever, think of that!! Ever.

Beating them is like beating Tiger Woods the best, and then some.

As for honours, thats for the Aussies to argue, or not......



19

wattie>x 1,

PLYMOUTH 24/08/2008 12:20:35
I wish these overpaid, privileged sportsmen and women would leave "what or shouldn't be" for their friends in need desrve; and let the people of this Island decide in a genuine democratic mmanner?
Wouldn't it be more appropriate if he had been suggesting the abolotion of this outdated elitist Royal and Aristocratic abomination, and join with decent people in the already violent overburdened 21st Century to make it more habitable for our future generations?

20

common sense voice,

25/08/2008 05:50:14
#5, spot on.... I know a little guy who taught 30 years in an FE colleage.... students loved him, he got some real diddy's thru' the basic arithmetic and similar stuff. He wasn't big in the union and didn't drink so promotion passed him by year in year out. He shrugged his shoulders and got on with his live. His family did his hurting for him but were the proudest people alive when comments about his teaching got back to them time and time again.

this is a guy for a knighthood, no someone who has fun at tax payers expence and then falls into something cushy afterwards.

 

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