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Pat Nevin: I may be in my forties and have two metal hips but I could never say no to my country like my old friend Lee McCulloch has done



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Published Date: 14 September 2008
NOW THAT the frenzy of international week has subsided, I think we all realise that we are in for a roller-coaster ride with George Burley's team. In retrospect, a poor first 45 minutes, as happened in Macedonia, can happen to any team, but it is more likely to happen to a side that has been asked to be positive.
One player has, however, decided not to join his team-mates for the ride. Lee McCulloch announced his international retirement and it leaked out at a rather inopportune moment for the Scotland manager.

There is the small matter that you cannot ac
tually retire from international football while you are playing for a club side. If Burley so demands, he can call Lee up and if he doesn't arrive Burley can demand that Rangers do not play him during the following five days. It is an unlikely scenario as the door has been left open for his return, and it is an unwritten rule that players can "retire" for a number of reasons. The problem is I am struggling to find one I consider acceptable.

I recently offended a number of people down south by suggesting that even Alan Shearer had a cheek to retire early from playing for his country, when he was patently still needed. "What about all the great service he gave in the past?" they said. Well, what about it? Isn't that what you are supposed give if you are in any way patriotic?

Even if you are not overly patriotic, that is still not good enough in my eyes. These days international players in England, and the vast majority in Scotland as well, will earn enough from their careers in the game to live comfortably for the rest of their lives. Is there no longer any feeling of duty towards the game that has helped the players earn these riches?

It is particularly galling for me as a good number of the players who have retired early are men who I either like, admire or both. The usual reason for giving up international football is that they feel they can prolong their domestic careers by a year or two. This may be true and certainly when you pull on that blue jersey in a qualifier nothing less than 100% effort is demanded, but is that an acceptable reason? Not in my eyes.

If they argued that they wanted that extra season only because they loved the game, adored playing and wanted it to last as long as possible, I'd have a glimmer of understanding, but usually it comes down to how much money will be squeezed out of their careers during that final flourish.

In the past when fans asked me, "who do these prima donnas think they are?" I often tried coming up with explanations for some players. I remember Gary McAllister retiring when he was still a top standard player, but he had major family considerations and large sections of the Tartan Army had turned against him as well as much of the media. There comes a moment then when a player might reasonably think: "I'm not sure they really want me any more." Maybe Gary had just cause.

I talked to another top international who retired far too early, citing the McAllister case and saying, "I want good memories of my Scotland career. I know that the press, and following them maybe the fans too, will eventually turn on me and I don't want to have all the memories soured." So off he went years before he should have and a gap was left that we struggled to fill, all because of the fear of what a vicious press might do at some indeterminate point in the future.

I still do not think that's a good enough excuse. Is it really so naïve or anachronistic to suggest that it should be more about what you can do for your country and not what your country can do for you, even if that means a level of self sacrifice?

I never did count how many Scotland squads I was in, but it was certainly more than double the 28 occasions that I managed to get on to the pitch. Even so, I never once considered pulling out of a squad unless I was totally incapable of playing, and that meant no chance of turning out for the club side on Saturday either. I would religiously come up from Chelsea and Brian McClair also came up from Manchester United every time and more often than not we would end up sitting together on the bench.

We often chatted about it – neither of us felt particularly liked by the Scottish press in general. One journalist wrote at the time that he had nightmares about me being picked for Scotland. And even though both of us started every week for major clubs in England, there was never a consideration that we would spit our dummies out and demand a game or else.

Neither would we sit on the bench in a huff the way very average players sometimes do because of a rather self-deluded view of their own importance or indeed ability. Even great players should accept being a substitute if that is what the country needs in the circumstances. I can exclusively reveal some of our finest haven't necessarily agreed with that point of view.

Maybe there are one or two very odd occasions when it is almost acceptable to retire from international football. A massive fall-out with the coach can be understandable grounds. David Weir found himself in precisely this situation with Berti Vogts, but of course came back into the fold once that particular problem was resolved/sacked.

Scotland has a very limited supply of players capable of cutting it at the top level and each time one refuses to play for his country prematurely it seriously damages our chances of qualification for major tournaments. I worked with Lee McCulloch at Motherwell, have found him in every way the perfect professional and think of him as a friend.

He is hard working, unstintingly helpful and has maximised his potential throughout his career. I can honestly say that, for the first time in my many years of knowing him, I am feeling a bit disappointed in him. There are others who make these decisions for what I would argue are selfish concerns; I just hope the big man has good reasons for turning his back on his country and I wouldn't be surprised if he does.

Doubtless we will find out in the fullness of time what the problems are and it will be the first question I ask when I next meet him. I will then go on to explain that I am well in to my forties and have two metal hips, but in the unthinkable event that my country came calling for me I would still endeavour to do whatever was asked and so, I believe, should anyone else.



The full article contains 1200 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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14/09/2008 09:33:17
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Richardinho,

14/09/2008 09:45:25
I think it's reasonable to retire from international football if your body is no longer up for it. However McCulloch has retired pure and simply for the benefit of Rangers SPL title campaign this year.
Not winning the title this year would be a disaster for Rangers this year, and Walter has clearly decided that the Scotland team is not going to stand in his way.
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14/09/2008 10:29:31
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Thane of Kirkcaldy,

Dancing in the Streets of Raith 14/09/2008 10:35:41
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The voice of reason - or perhaps not !
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14/09/2008 10:45:10
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 10:52:28
The only paranoia come from t*ats like you and your kind. Why are you asking WS questions on here.
Yanarse.
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Ajax MacKindling,

14/09/2008 11:01:56
McCulloch is a decent proffesional at the tail end of his career.
Quite why a Rangers and Scotland squad player announcing his retirement is getting anyone heated up is beyond me.
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Anti-Greeny,

Not the glitterdome 14/09/2008 11:10:05
Pat

You may not have 'turned your back on your country'. But mctraitor certainly is plying his trade for another country (last seen in Montenegro this week) and houghton too. They did it permanently.

Let's have your comments on this.

I suspect someone with a name like Patrick Kevin Francis Michael Nevin was sorely tempted to do the same.
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Backofthenet,

14/09/2008 11:21:02
McCulloch's retirement involves a family illness so it would seem Nevin doesn't know his "old friend" all that well.
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cape town 14/09/2008 11:31:44
All this talk about being passionate and proud of your country is an absolute nonsense.
McCulloch has merely retired from international football, but prior to that retirement he played at the top level because he committed himself to doing so.

There are people on this forum and all over Scotland who live in developments with a lot of spare ground. And is almost all of them, the committees place no ball game signs all over the place. No wonder kids are bored, they cant even play football any more. It's to noisy, it's damages the grass etc.

Schools are out of control, football is not compulsory and thus even the government has let the country down.

The powers that be in professional football are a disgrace. Our leagues are farcical. Why on earth we do not have 2 leagues consisting of 20 teams each is beyond me. SURE there are many EXCUSES as to why making one big premier league wont work, but there are no valid reasons.

McCulloch has behaved far better than the SFA, the government and most residents around Scotland.
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 11:38:39
NN - No it isn't.
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Anti-Greeny,

14/09/2008 11:45:27
13 is NN resurrected? sounds like him to be sure.

Have you recovered from last week's belting, tarrier?
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14/09/2008 11:47:13
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Anti-Greeny,

14/09/2008 11:49:30
NN let's have your comments on #9. Can hardly wait for some side splitting piffle.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/09/2008 12:05:10
Morining ladies.....

I see there are a few deeply bitter and miserable halfwits on today....

McCulloch has packed it in....good...he was mince....

Why he has been given this much oxygen time beats me...he ain't worth the effort!
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 12:12:44
And another deeply bitter and miserable halfwit enters (and twisted). At least McCulloch played for his country unlike the traitor McGeady, but then he's mince as well.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/09/2008 12:17:50
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So you're defence of McCulloch is to attack Aiden....

About sums you up ya spanner!

The only reason you attack Aiden is because he is a talented player....Scotlands player of the year!
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 12:24:09
The only reason I attack him is because he's a traitor. What's your defence of him? Ya spanner.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/09/2008 12:45:01
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If there is any other words or phrases you want me to give you...to help you post retorts....just let me know!

Traitor....a person who says one thing and does another to decieve...

Scotland never asked Aiden to play for them...Ireland did...

You work it out ya plank!

McCulloch is mince....we don't care if he doesn't play for Scotland....why does it bother you ya plum!

Now I've provided a few words and phrases above for you to help you with your next post.
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cape town 14/09/2008 12:51:20
I would not call McGeady a traitor.
He is a young man who has chosen to play for Ireland - end of story...
He was probably brought up in an Irish home, probably went to a catholic school and probably heard stories of home all his life, so why not choose to play for Ireland?
Richard Gough is as South African as they come. He is for all intent and purposes a South African. But his folks are Scottish and he went to Scotland to play football. The rest is history - it was his choice and well done to him. McGeady is no different.
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 12:53:22
It doesn't bother me, I'm glad he's not playing for Scotland. McGeady must really be mince if Scotland never asked him to play for them. But then with talent like McCulloch in front of him he had no choice but to play for an inferior nation. Did he?

Oh, ya plank, ya plum - any more?
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paulmac,

surrey 14/09/2008 12:53:38
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Your real reason is that he plays for Celtic...nothing more or less.....

Davie Weir refused to play for his country....traitor?

Wattie walked away from his country....traitor?

Rearrangers players have consistently withdrawn from internationals.....traitors?

Rearrangers have consistentaly withdrawn their players from internationals......traitorist club?

Right lads quiet....Wiggy's now gonna have a weee rant in response.
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Backofthenet,

14/09/2008 12:54:49
"Scotland never asked Aiden to play for them" (#22)

They did actually. He was picked in a Scotland youth squad when he was only 15.

"Richard Gough is as South African as they come" (#23)

Yeah right. Apart from being born in Sweden, etc! And as you say, Gough's parents are Scottish. McGeady's parents aren't from the Republic of Ireland - they're Scottish too.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/09/2008 12:58:29
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When do you think Lee will be voted Scotlands player of the year?
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 13:00:12
#27 - Never, Broadfoot's got that in the bag already. Or perhaps Mendes.
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 13:09:42
NN - No it isn't.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/09/2008 13:17:58
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You heard it here first....Wiggy believes the galloping Camel will be Scotands player of the year this year......

And he's serious!
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Wiggy,

14/09/2008 13:22:59
#32 - You bet your life i'm serious, he's the length of the Gobi desert ahead of everyone else, except Mendes perhaps.
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Ajax MacKindling,

14/09/2008 13:28:44
McGeady is a good player and would have walked into a Scotland team. The fact that he chose to play for Ireland shows where his heart lies, and what's wrong with that?

McCulloch is a decent pro who has his best years behind him. If he thinks at this stage of his career that the odd weekend off regular football will benefit him and let him continue to play thats up to him.

McCulloch has accepted the fact that he wont play in a World Cup. Thats real life.
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Media 1,

Cape Town 14/09/2008 14:07:36
Who cares who plays for who! The man in the strip is irrelivant, its the strip that counts!!
I once saw Dalglish in Cape Town along with some other footballing stars. Think they were here playing the Nelson Mandela challenge and then took a few days in the mother city.
Two of my mates were so keen to go up and speak to them, I on the otherhand was more inclined to watch paint dry than talk to some footballers I didnt know from Adam.
When they wear the strip I cheer them, but as soon as the strip comes off they are as important to me as the guy next door.
McGeady is irrelivant, so is McCulloch.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

14/09/2008 14:13:18
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"Two of my mates"

Surely you exaggerate! :)
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Colin P,

14/09/2008 14:41:54
#2 Richard

McCulloch is not even close to a first choice for the Rangers squad.

There goes your argument.
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Colin P,

14/09/2008 14:51:38
NN: you've got to pity this guy.

The man of many names (none of which are his own) slagging the best manager in the country with his (the man with no surname) jibes, and his quotation marks around Walter.

Are you a brave wee cyber warrior?
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jerrymanders,

14/09/2008 17:51:45
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"to say mcculloch retired for the benefit of rangers is just daft

the only chance of a first team game he'll get is for scotland!"


"Elbows" played 46 times for his club last season and is only thirty. You bought him for £2.25M.

Those were daft statements to make.
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Ajax MacKindling,

14/09/2008 18:25:44
...and your point is contestant 41?

Was £2.25M too much or was it not enough?

Funny money in footy, ask Bobo.
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Helter Skelter,

14/09/2008 19:43:43
Autumn is a bit of a b!tch when you're not in the champions league, or even UEFA for that matter.

All those delicious Wednesdays when you can feel a spring in your step all day as you look forward to an evening of excitement and drama in the world's premier club competition.

The intensity of the atmosphere at CP on CL nights is legendary, and the players find an extra something in the tank that normally isn' there.

It is such a massive rush of excitement , a grand excursion amongst the elite ...and to those who failed to make the grade we say : nae luck! enjoy coronation street.
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jerrymanders,

14/09/2008 20:09:15
....and your IQ is #42? Oh...I see...it is 42.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

14/09/2008 20:44:42
#43

Is it CL week already? Bhoy, did that one sneak up on me!

I wish Celtic well. Aalborg at CP must be a banker 3 points. Certainly the easiest looking match of the group, and the chance to get off to a flyer, which I'm sure that Celtic will grab with both hands.

As for RFC's non-participation? Yes, I suppose that I'd rather be there, but I have seen my team participate in a lot of CL campaigns, and we played two seasons-worth of Euro football last season in two separate competitions, so I'm quite accepting of our absence. The SPL has to be our priority this season, and I'm hopeful that the free midweeks will play into our hands.

The money men will disagree, but I'm only a football fan.
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Daillyman,

14/09/2008 22:04:10
43 Helter

Coronation St. no thanks I prefer The Bill.

Should be 3 points for the tic at home in the CL this week. But it will get much more difficult with the other home matches.

Time will tell if the tic can get a win on the their travels in the group sections.

Best of luck.
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Helter Skelter,

14/09/2008 22:20:32
Wednesday's match is a must win...anything short of three points and we can just about forget even the uefa slot.

There is no margin for error here at all : beat Aalborg at home or else we are out of europe before Xmas.

It is an uncomfortable position to be in on match day 1. Celtic have lost every previous opening CL match, but none of them were 'must wins' in the sense that better opportunities to get points on the board will come along.

This is the 'easiest' match on paper and only a win will suffice as every other fixture will be substantially more difficult, going right off the scale when it comes to Old Trafford.

Celtic have never been in this position on match day 1, and it's not a position I would recommend : to face the prospect of effective elimination at the first hurdle is not for the feint hearted.
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Jim McMillan,

Edinburgh - Feast in the East 14/09/2008 23:21:43
As a 'Tic fan, I appreciate, and LOL at some of the "traitor" comments here - my argument being, you're off on a tangent here - Pat's article is really saying " if you had a chance to play fitba' for a living, and Scotland called, would you EVER refuse them" - naw you wouldnae no matter what team you played for, and hopefully you'd tell any ersehole manager who suggested you should refuse them, to "GIRUY!"

If a guy cannae play 'cos his grannies just died, nae bother, but if he hasnae got 2 broken legs, or a broken back and his grannies daein OK, he should bust his ba's to play for Scotland or the country of his choice if asked. Any player who knocks back his country better think twice, 'cos if he can dae that to his country, why would I have him in my club team.

I'd have walked through walls to play fitba' for a job, never mind play for my country - that's the real point behind Pat Nevin's article. As for the inane "traitor" bile - Wake up ya weegie numpty's!
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Will1875,

16/09/2008 12:06:44
I don't understand what the big deal is. McCulloch is average at best. He canny even get a game for Rearrangers any more.

He's never played that well for anyone, so he won't be missed.

 

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