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1

paulh,

Russia 22/11/2006 02:45:41

Absolutely Fantastic, well done the Bhoys!

2

Wee Stuart,

New York 22/11/2006 02:52:50

Ya beauty! I was dancing, singing, yelling, cursing, praying in those last 10 minutes. Not the greatest spectacle in the first 80, but what a finish! Great job Celtic. Your fighting spirit came through in the end, and what a bonus to now be in the last 16. A night to remember, and replay over and over.

3

John A.,

Dubai 22/11/2006 03:01:03

This was a tremendous achievement for Gordon Strachan, Celtic and Scotland that the various English media will find hard to explain to their customers.

Celtic's focus and resolution in the previous couple of months have been superb, even when playing indifferently against the likes of Hearts.

Perhaps Mr. Romanov will by now have detected the merits of appointing a first-class manager who knows how to get results and will not suffer interference from above.

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Rancho Relaxo,

22/11/2006 03:13:55

How many times do we need to beat English sides before we accept that we are neither as bad as we are portrayed nor that they are as good as they would have us all believe? Yes, they outplayed us, as did Blackburn and Liverpool, and yes we rode our luck but, yet again, we have came away with the result. Every time a Scottish team comes up against an English side we are warned of the gulf in class and the thrashing that is bound to follow. As a nation we should refuse to accept this defeatist attitude, the facts don't back it up, and have pride in what we can, and do, achieve. Well done Celtic, particularly WGS, and shove it right up you Man Utd. Biggest club in the world my arse. Arrogant, over hyped, under achieving prima donnas!

6

Richardinho,

22/11/2006 03:15:24

fabulous. Rather miserable match report though. Man utd barely had a shot at goal, and Celtic had a few of their own in the second half.

7

the boxerman,

the canadian wilderness. 22/11/2006 03:16:29

Congrats to Neil Lennon, well done wee man, you finally got your wish, leading Celtic into the final 16 of the Champions League. There is one timmaloy over in the wilderness, who is very happy tonight.

The game was shown live all over North America on the ESPN sports network and they got to see what a special site Celtic Park is on European nights. At the end of the game the commentators went silent and just listened and watched that wonderful sight of YNWA ringing around the Parkhead terraces.

A great result for Celtic and Scotland. Things are looking up again and good luck to Rangers in Auxerre on Thursday night. Hopefully we can wax nostalgic about the 60s when Scots clubs did well in Europe.

8

Brian,

Tattiemunching Gypsy 22/11/2006 03:16:58

Well done Celtic.
Words alone cannot adequately describe the delight.
Shaky start, but what a finish. And what a support... second to none.

Hail Hail !

9

Conner_Mcleod,

Wellington, New Zealand 22/11/2006 03:28:35

Absolutely Brilliant even if i had to watch it at 8.45 am We are there and the moaning Manx can't do nought about it! Looking forward to next year now and who we get in the draw! Ha-ha Rooney and the over-rated team mates.

Hail Hail

10

Homesick,

Melbourne 22/11/2006 03:28:38

As an exiled Jambo it was fantatsic to read something positive about Scottish Football this week. Well done Celtic a great achievement. Last eight beckons, if you can run United this close twice then anything can happen.

Martin O' Who?????

11

Scottish fan,

China 22/11/2006 03:35:19

What a wonderful achievement and great news for all us Scots. Let us hope that Rangers too qualify as then we as a nation can really " send them homewards tae think again"
Well done to our wonderful Scottish spirit and great support at Parkhead. What an advert for the Scots.
They are admired and loved here in Shenzhen in China and there were many Chinese here who were introduced to the passion of the Celtic fans and took great delight in our Wee Nation overcoming Man United. I wonder if Alec Ferguson felt any patriotic joy in this!

12

Kex,

Wellington,NZ 22/11/2006 03:49:16

Agree with all of the above. Well done Celtic a great result for your club and Scottish football. Strachan and his boy's backed up his comments re the EPL being over rated as it most surely is.
Let's hope Rangers can also qualify.

13

Reg, Perth WA,

22/11/2006 04:09:35

Well done wee man! Will make beating your team this weekend all the sweeter!
GGTTH

14

Terry Mo,

Georgia US 22/11/2006 04:11:16

What can i say that has'nt been said above? I am still buzzin, the dugs and cats went flying out the room when I was screaming after Boruc saved that dodgy penalty, I think the wife got them back in. Sooperb result, bring on the next lot.

15

gr8fulcelt,

NJ, USA 22/11/2006 04:12:58

All true football fans should rejoice in results like Celtic's victory - It proves again (as Southend did a couple of weeks ago) that on any given day 11 players can beat any other 11 players. Nowadays, these results seem to happen less often because the Super Rich clique of clubs are stacked with the most outrageoulsly expensive talent that petro dollars can buy. Celtic are a big club in a small market - it's great to see them put one over on one of the perennial powerhouses of the modern game.

16

The Dude,

Cloud 9 22/11/2006 04:30:22

Fantastic goal, fantastic save. Longest 10 mins of my life. Now to top the group and achieve a long awaited win away from home.

Well done to the wee ginggger.

Fantastic

Hail hail

17

CaliforniaBuoy,

Long Beach 22/11/2006 04:38:20

What a great night! The English media can try to spin this anyway they want but Man. U. were beat in Paradise.

A London based writer, Michael Collet (Reuters) on The Scotsman's RSS feed described the penalty like this:

"Louis Saha's weakly-taken 90th minute penalty"

Weakly-taken my arse! If Collet's head had been in front of that ball, he'd be heidless. Spin it all you want, with a wee bit of luck Benifica will..........

18

CaliforniaBhoy,

Long Beach, California 22/11/2006 04:54:59

Maybe some of the south of the border writers aren't gonna try the spin. The Guardian had a very realistic write-up

19

Paul,

22/11/2006 05:04:34

Well done Celtic, great result.

Why are all you Scottish fans so obsessed about England vs Scotland all the time though?

When Arsenal or Man U or whoever play in Europe its not England vs Spain or Italy or Germany, it is club vs. club. However much you blame it on the English media I think you are all paranoid and insecure as you are just so desperate to beat English teams.

And by the way, if you turn things around 360 degrees, the Scottish media is about as biased towards Scottish clubs as any the world over.

Anyway, well done to the hoops and let's hope they can continue this good form.

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Sunshine Charlie,

Capetown 22/11/2006 05:08:42

WALK ON....WALK ON WTH HOPE IN YOUR HEARTS,Celtic you made a hell of a lot of people extremely happy.What a goal and what a save...SURE ITS A GRAND OLD TEAM TO PLAY FOR.Roll on next year.

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Richard the Hibee,

USA 22/11/2006 05:32:21

#19 Paul. You are not Scottish are you?

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Rancho Relaxo,

22/11/2006 05:42:10

Paul #19,

Perhaps our paranoia is driven by the fact that over the last 5-6 years we have beaten Man Utd, Liverpool, Blackburn, Juventus, Porto, Anderlecht, Benfica, Ajax, Lyon, Celta Vigo, Rosenberg, Barcelona and drawn with Bayern and Milan. However, this does not save us from the constant English media bashings about the standard of our team and the Scottish game in general. Despite this impressive array of scalps, we are still led to believe that we could not live with the big boys of Wigan, Reading, Bolton and Charlton. The overhyped EPL is a fraud. Entertaining, yes. Best league in the world, the facts would certainly suggest otherwise. The fact that our resurgent National team would probably turn over England's consistently under achieving mob only makes it all the better. We are a small nation that, until the late 80s-90s, punched above our weight in the football world. Looks like we could be rediscovering how to play the game.

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bigkev,

china 22/11/2006 05:53:12

aye, well done to wee Gord. and your merry men! this is coming from a life long Rangers man too!

forget all the English press, pretty passing means nothing, goals count, you got one they never, you're through (just like we did!!) and they're struggling.

Sir Alex has a wee problem, no enough goals and in particular from Rooney, they carry him all too often........ Here's a thought, they loose to Chelsea at the w/e, then loose to Benfica....their season takes a nose dive!! not too far away from reality eh

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bigkev,

china 22/11/2006 05:59:59

#18 - You should have read Sportinglife earlier.... he doesn't use the work fluke but you know it wasn't far away from his thoughts ....*anker

The article apears to have been sanitised a bit now though.

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PowerScot,

KZN 22/11/2006 06:00:17

Well done the Bhoys ! But I really think there needs to be an investigation into referees and Manchester United. Over the years I have never seen a team win so many penalties under the most dubious of circumstances, and in the English premiership, until the time added rule was introduced, have so many minutes added on to their games. The exception to this of course was in Scotland with Glasgow Rangers and of course we all know why they were favoured. But well done to the Bhoys. Hail Hail

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PowerScot,

KZN 22/11/2006 06:02:37

Paul # 19, Go and read your history.

27

steve077,

22/11/2006 06:03:17

well done celtic
would love to see man u go out!

28

Hoops man,

22/11/2006 06:20:22

Still gob smacked here with a bloddy sore throat fae shouting

Well done the Hoops, a long way to go, but it is achievable

Hail Hail

29

Danish SuperTim,

Denmark 22/11/2006 06:21:06

What a performance last night!! Absoultely fantastic.
Well done Bhoys and wee Gordon. You really made me proud of being a Celtic supporter. Now I´m really looking forward to see you guys in Copenhagen, hopefully beating the #### out of FCK!! I´ll be there for to cheer you, that´s for sure!!! HAIL HAIL

30

Encephalon,

22/11/2006 06:25:27

After a rather disappointing first half I thought Celtic deserved the win for their second half performance. Nakamura's freekick was something special and a real killer as at that stage the game seemed destined to end in a draw. Did not see the penalty incident as the feed died in Asia at the crucial moment!

Congratulations to Gordon Strachan and the coaching staff for what I thought was a magnificent defensive display and also Lennon & Graveson deserve special mention for stopping ManU from controlling the midfield.

On this display I have to be honest and admit that I don't think any of the current Rangers team would get into the Celtic team-there really is a significant gulf in class developing.

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nearlyneurotic,

22/11/2006 06:33:22

Absolutely brilliant Celtic.Strachan deserves credit and everyone else to boot.
Gerz McNee`s face on STV was every bit as good though...he could not bring himself to congratulate Celtic and Strachan when asked in the studio after the game.Nor did anyone on STV mention that Celtic had qualified,they even showed the league section with Man U at the top!!
You had to switch to Sky to get accurate reporting from English commentators!!
UEFA should be brought in to see whats going on at STV as well(joke).
The whole of Scottish football has been handed a tremendous boost from Celtics achievement last night,that should not be underestimated.

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Thomas Pax,

Dubai 22/11/2006 07:24:07

Great result, solid defensively and very well organized, although the passing throughout the team was pretty poor. Too many punts and Bobo was mince on the ground, Caldwell seems the better player; Killen will have him in his pocket on Sunday. Why oh why Maloney doesn't start every week is anybodies guess! Man U never really pressed Celtic in the final third, if they did, then they would have probably got a result. I reckon Hibs will be a lot more aggressive in that area and that's where the game will be won.

33

justmeself,

France 22/11/2006 07:27:32

Shaun ,
just take a wee rest and take a look at this !
Naka

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matthew in davao,

philippines 22/11/2006 07:28:04

watched the game. 3.30 a.m. wed. morn. great stuff, although, i nearly had 19 heart attacks in the first half. watched c.s.k.a. & porto. all the english commentators talked about was arsenal ??? same when i watch spanish games, they never stop talking about THE PREMIERSHIP ??? all of them were stunned today. celtic can beat any team on any day. its great to be a tim.

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mariusz ontario,

Ontario,Canada 22/11/2006 07:29:10

Congratulation from Canada from Polish Fans of CELTIC!!!

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Mr Magoo,

22/11/2006 07:46:21

A fantastic result for the bhoys - well done to yous all. Be prepared for the people who'll say that the free kick was unjustly awarded, and that Boruc was at least a yard off his line at the pen, but hey. Point to the teams through to the last 16! Word of warning though lads and lassies - Man U are not nearly as bad as some people are making out here, Chelsea will feel the backlash.

37

Eduard,

Kaunas 22/11/2006 07:46:26

In Lithuania we have an old saying -- "Sellick are majic!"

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Tam O' Shanter,

Ayr 22/11/2006 07:50:48

Longest ten minutes ever!
Well done !!

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matthew in davao,

philippines 22/11/2006 07:52:45

i am reading everywhere that saha MISSED the penalty. what i saw was boruc psyched him out. he looked left & shifted slightly left. it was a great save regardless. the ball was well hit right to the bottom corner. i too did not realise we were through to the last 16. walking tall, we went through the front door, no one else in the group has qualifnot bad for a wee team from a " mickey mouse league "

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matthew in davao,

philippines 22/11/2006 07:58:03

saha did not MISS the penalty he was psyched out by boruc, who looked & shifted alittle left. it was a great save. the ball was hit hard to the bottom right corner. into the last 16. not bad for awee team from a "mickey mouse league "

41

Billy Fulton,

Larkhall 22/11/2006 07:58:28

Great result!!...well done ra Celts from all in Larkhall!!

42

Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 08:01:52

Well done to Celtic great result, whilst TV Pundits say that Man U were poor, I thought they were only poor when it came to shots at Boruc and that must go down to the way Celtic set their stall out.
Celtic did not have much attacking presence in the first half, but in the second half I think they had more shots at goal than Man U did all game.
A good result against Copenhagen and they win the group, fantastic for Scottish football, and one omore for those who say Scottish teams could not hold their own in the EPL.

Congratulations all you hoops.

43

Malky,

22/11/2006 08:02:08

It took Celtic 64 minutes before they managed to string 3 passes together in the Man Utd half. It was without doubt the most embarassing rearguard action i've ever seen in a champions league game. Celtic didn't look like they could trouble Akrington Stanley, let alone Man Utd.

Graviscon and Lemmon were shocking in posession.

Then....a moment of brilliance from Prawn Tempura and the three points are in the bag. A fantastic result.

Shame it wasn't a better advert for Scottish football, but then again maybe that's the best we have to offer.

44

justmeself,

France 22/11/2006 08:02:16

Has anyone heard from Media1 since yesterday


Celtic 0 vs Man utd 4 (Do I have any doubters)?

45

justmeself,

France 22/11/2006 08:06:15

#43 Malky luckily we didn't play Akrington Stanley last night it was only Man U just as well
do you mean Gravesen Lennon an Nakamura

46

Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 08:06:53

#27, why would you want Man U to go out, that would take away from a great Celtic performance last night. The English Pres would just put it down to Man U being a poor team and not that Celtic beat an EPL Side to qualify.
Lets make sure Celtic get all the credit they deserve for this.

47

David W.,

Detroit 22/11/2006 08:08:17

I'm not sure why Gordon started with the lineup he had on the pitch. But hats off to him for making an adjustment. I think having graveson and Naka on the wrong flanks was more responsible for Celtic's lack of pressure in the first half than the indomitable magic of Man U., which the English papers would have you believe.

Sorry Man U, you can make all thep pretty passes you want, but no gaols means no win. They did the same thing against FC Kobenhavn. Here in the states, if your football team drives the ball inside the 20 yeard line every possession and you don't reach the end zone, you still suck. If your baseball team loads the bags every innings and you don't plate a run, you're limp. Only in England are you dominant even if you don't score.

I don't suppose Celtic's defense gets credit for a blank slate. Sure Man U. blew some opportunities. But the second half was a different game. The English papers--except the Guardian--make Celtic sound like accidental victors.

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Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 08:09:52

#43 Malky - I think you were watching adifferent game from the one I saw, Celtic restricted Man U to very few efforts on goal and in midfield the clsed them up on most occasions. Up front in the first half they were not on song, but at the end of the day football is about two things, firstly prevent the opponents from scoring, which celtic did and scoring more goals than the opponent, which again Celtic did, be fair give them a bit more credit than you did Malky.

49

Repton,

edinburgh 22/11/2006 08:12:19

Well done Celtic.How Ferguson had Saha taking the penalty when you`ve got Ranaldo there,a proven taker under pressure beats me.

50

rab, glasgow,

22/11/2006 08:12:31

Well done the bhoys. a fantastic result, bring on akrington stanley, or any EPL team.Boruc, brilliant save, Nakamura, pure genius,YOU,LL NEVER WALK ALONE.
PURE MAGIC.

51

AndyBhoy,

Vancouver Canada 22/11/2006 08:18:16

Well done Celtic. Unfortunately you won't get the credit you deserve from most of the press. Man Utd failed to beat you, so there is no point in reporting the fact that you took the game to them in the2nd half and won ! It was all a failure on Man Utd part - you were only there to make up the numbers ...apparently....... No mention that Man Utd had two decidedly dogdy penalties over two games (had they not got the Giggs non-penalty would they have won the 1st leg ?). No mention in either in any paper I've seen so far of elbow to Jiri's face - clear penalty and clear red-card. Still best to savour the victory. Pity there's no Man Utd fans to annoy at work tomorrow.
Good luck to the Bhoys - hail hail !

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Blue Boy Down Under,

Melbourne, Oz 22/11/2006 08:20:56

Although it hurts to say it, the Bhoys done Good. Always nice to see any team from North of the Wall putting one over the engirlish... I just hope the Rangers can progress in the EUFA cup as well for the reputation of Scottish Football.

53

wee-jimmy,

Germany 22/11/2006 08:25:15

Well done to Celtic!!! Well deserved. It gives a lift to Scottish football once more to see a team thru to the last 16.

54

eric,

22/11/2006 08:27:50

Rangers got the same treatment from media .And went through,

55

Gusto,

22/11/2006 08:32:12

Consider this: how many cities in the WORLD can produce 2 teams to match the two big Glasgow teams? I wouldnt put any money on London, Milan, even Bracelona.
Well, mebbe Sao Paulo .....

56

Strider (Aragorn the Ranger),

22/11/2006 08:33:52

Really well done Celtic. Great result for an SPL team.

However

The free kick that Nakamura scored from should not have happened at all. THERE WAS NO CONTACT in the tackle. I will say it again THERE WAS NO CONTACT, NO CONTACT

It was not a penalty either. BAll to hand and no deflection. You could see by SAHA`s body language that he was going to miss.

However

Boric was 2 yards off his line when the ball was struck. Rules say it should have been retaken!

"Lucky white heather"

57

Strider (Aragorn the Ranger),

22/11/2006 08:35:52

Good point Gusto but remember, if it was not for the secterian divide, glasgo would have probably the greatest football team in Europe!

58

Stewart, from Livi, via Parkhead,

Livingston, funnily enough. 22/11/2006 08:37:17

Magic...pure magic....and well done for the comments from the other Scottish teams supporters on here...

59

Dagwood Bumstead,

The Blue Planet 22/11/2006 08:40:43

Great result, great free kick but Celtic were awful to be honest. Dreadful in fact.

Man Utd thought they could just turn up to win, they were probably half thinking ot the big game against Chelsea at the weekend.

We should not forget what lead to the goal, a disgraceful piece of cheating by Jarosik. Diving like that is a blight on our game.

60

Strider (Aragorn the Ranger),

22/11/2006 08:41:33

Called Glasgow United

61

Strider (Aragorn the Ranger),

22/11/2006 08:43:07

#58 Good points made by yourself.

62

Gerry M,

22/11/2006 08:48:12

Now I am waiting for the Enlish media to lump us in with Rochdale and F.C. Copenhagen.

Fantastic result, great night. The Spanish commentators were dumbstruck at the walk on at the start of the 2nd half- quite an achivement to shut these guys up for more than 2 seconds. God knows what that did to the Utd. players.

As for you guys that wish Rangers well. Bear in mind the disgrace their fans repeatedly bring to Scottish football with their vile behaviour. Methinks they are better knocked out. Unfortunately it seems they will qualify.

63

Chris#1,

London 22/11/2006 08:48:54

Further to Strider's comments in post 56, about it not being a free kick! Remember the only reason the Celts lost against Man U in the match in Manchester a few weeks ago (lost 3-2) was the penalty that never was.

In that game, Boruc never made contact with Giggs, Giggs saw the ball was about to run out of play so Giggs fell over! A dubious penalty was awared whic was duly converted.

Therefore, Celtic deserved a rub of the green in the rematch!

64

connaughtboy,

aberdeen 22/11/2006 08:51:32

Justmeself #44 - I was just thinking the same thing. Media1 has obviously crawled back into his hole. Bet he's feeling like a right t*sser this morning. Hail hail

65

Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 08:52:33

#55, what kind of football supporter are you, these things happen for and against teams in a season, whether it was a foul or not the decision was given and thats what counts.

66

connaughtboy,

aberdeen 22/11/2006 08:58:00

Did anyone watch the ITV Round-up last night? Clive whats-his-face more or less said that Celtic's fantastic home record in Europe was mainly down to the Parkhead crowd's influence over referees causing them to give decisions Celtic's way. I couldn't believe my ears. What an arrogant tw*t. Paul #19 take note!!!

67

James100,

Hamburg 22/11/2006 08:58:52

Fans were magnificent, they deserve praise as well. From a Rangers supporter.

68

JamesGang,

Dunblane 22/11/2006 09:02:36

Great to see the Celtic diaspora in all the comments above. We never walk alone, wherever we are in the world....

69

connaughtboy,

aberdeen 22/11/2006 09:04:58

The Daily Telegraph report was pretty fair too

70

Govanrear,

22/11/2006 09:07:50

Great result, absolutely no doubt about it, and that's all that matters. But it was a dubious free kick and penalty. The difference being Nakmura took advantage of his, and how. What would his value be now? Man Utd have problems - superstar forwards who can't get goals. Is Rooney washed up? WGS has a problem too - how does he match his success this season in the future? Wish PLG had that problem! Well done Celts.

71

Dagwood Bumstead,

The Blue Planet 22/11/2006 09:10:32

Ref To comment 66

Clive was correct.

Oh and Man Utds penaltiy at Old Trafford was correctly given. It was only questionable to the hoops fans, not neutrals.

Celtic were a poor example for Scottish football with their cheating.

Blalde's disgraceful tackle on Scholes should have merited a straight red card, how often will he get away with career threatening tackles before some action is taken ?

72

connaughtboy,

aberdeen 22/11/2006 09:14:44

#71 Dagwood Bumhole - you ain't a neutral and you certainly don't understand the rules of football. Also you opinions don't matter to any Celtic fan today or any other day. Hail Hail

73

Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 09:16:06

#67 James100 well said mate and I as a Jambo also thought the fans were magnificent. Well done Celtic and their fans.
Good luck to the Gers tomorrow.

74

James100,

Hamburg 22/11/2006 09:17:16

Clive was talking bollox, the crowd are all part of the team thing.

75

Hoops man,

22/11/2006 09:19:20

#71
I dont think celtic cheated, obviously you watched a different game to the majority
case os sour grapes me thinks or just a bad loser

Well dont the Hoops

Good luck the goven men on Thursday

76

Calum Mcleod,

22/11/2006 09:22:22

Terrific result for Celtic and now the big money from the last 16. Mind you, how on earth Bobo Balde stayed on the pitch after a potential career ending tackle on Scholes in the first half is beyond me. And he went on to have a good second half, particularly in shackiling a very poor Saha.

77

Two shoes,

Dundee 22/11/2006 09:23:43

'Lord Nelson! Sir Alec Ferguson! Sir Winston Churchill! Sir Anthony Eden! Clement Attlee! Henry Cooper! Lady Diana! Tony Blair - can you hear me, Tony Blair Your boys took one hell of a beating!

78

John F.,

São Paulo 22/11/2006 09:25:05

Re comment 54
I can assure you that the city of São Paulo certainly does not have two teams of the calibre of Celtic and Rangers. São Paulo itself has just deservedly won the Brazilian championship but the other two main teams - Corinthians and Palmeiras -are in crisis and would pose no threat to any half-decent European team. As for the Man Utd game it was good to see Celtic win but the fact that the team is filled with foreigners detracts from my pleasure. Imagine Celtic starting a game of this importance at Parkhead with only two Scots players!

79

Ally Ross,

Sarf London 22/11/2006 09:25:32

Strider 55 and Chris 62 - There was contact! He grabbed the back of his left sock. Okay, he was probably going over at the time, but he did touch him> Difficult one for the ref to make as he was behind it at the time, and 60 000+ fans calling for blood. Maybe he awarded the penalty when he realised that he had made a mistake. It balanced out - you win some you lose some.

I watched it on ITV and they were W**king themselves silly over every little manure pass. Was making me nauseous. And they went to adverts immediately afterwards! the bad losers!

Good luck to Rangers tomorrow.

Hail Hail Scotland!!

80

Pat the Hat,

Cloud 9 22/11/2006 09:32:02

The dubious freekick that Jarosik won was the only decision the ref gave us all night – how Heinze stayed on after his elbow on the same player is anybody's guess. The ref didn't even give a foul when it was a stonewall penalty.

He then gives Scholes a cheap freekick which leads to a cheaper penalty. Thank you Artur Boruc!

What a result – only the English media could make a team that has won one of its last 11 CL away games red hot favourites against a team that has only lost one of its last 11 home games in the same competition.

As for Strider and Dagwood, suck on it! Woohoo!

81

Duncan,

on tour 22/11/2006 09:35:47

Call me a cynic. And a bluenose. On the build up to this match we got the dripping roast about how the SPL is inferior to the Premiership. A lot of it was to be found on these boards. Ronaldo obviously believed it, as he showboated his way around Parkhead. Scholes remarks before the game about just keeping the ball, "we do it every week," were typically arrogant. Roony was to busy spitting and trying to look hard, what a joke. The 12th. man as always at Parkhead were the fans and there singing in that fantastic stadium. Man U. also discovered the ancient Scottish secret weapon in the second half. The famous GETINTAERIM. Many English teams have been stung by it in the past.

5 RANCHO. well said mate, where are they now?
19 PAUL. Don't eat sour grapes they give you the shits.
62. CHRIS. Dead right the only thing that counts is the result.

Boruc saves penalties every week Scholes.

Congratulations to Celtic and St. Gordon who has now slain the Red Dragon!

82

IanW,

Germany 22/11/2006 09:35:58

I have to eat humble pie now. I honestly did not think that Celtic would gain any more points after the defeat in Lisbon and I posted that comment on the board.

I admit I was wrong and I am delighted to be proven to be wrong. The result is a fantastic one for Celtic and Scottish football. After Rangers performance last year Celtic had a lot to live up to and have done so.

I only saw highlights on Austrian television and did not think the match was up to much, may be a wrong impression, but the result was brilliant.

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christopher,

22/11/2006 09:37:26

Morning folks

a truely tremendous result, a very big well done for that last night, yes you were a bit ropey but no wonder with big bobo looking like a fish out of water, caldwell would have made a massive difference to the side and steadied the ship. as a rangers man i find the turn around in our fortunes in the champions league very very encouraging. Nakamura is a serious diamond and don't be surprised when the 'BIG' english teams come knocking for him. hahahahaha get it right up them, the commentators voices said it all. the could not believe it.... (the english ones on the highlights)..... they never knew what hit them with the noise at parkhead last night....... yet it will all be about how crap ManUtd were and not how well celtic held thier nerve and took the points.

i salute you Bhoys, now go and get to the quarter finals and hopefully my lot will do a turn tomorrow and qualify too, who knows we may very well got 2 automatic qualifying places if we can keep this up!!!

this is a true sign that in 2 successive years scottish teams have progressed and yet they still slate the standard of our game.

they don't know what they are talking about


GIRFUT

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Garry S,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 09:38:53

Great win for the greens who are almost as good as the real Edinburgh greens! What would WE have done to them hahaha!?

Just goes to show: hype is exactly that.

While Man U dominated the 1st half (and Fergie and all of the English sports press will emphasise this til the coos come home), they barely made a decent chance the whole 90.

up ye Lineker and co.

Great for Scottish football, but as for Sunday coming...c'mon the Hibees!!

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Garry S,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 09:42:17

oh yes.
and up yes too, Mr England....Alan Hansen!

by the way Balde was torture, and was pretty lucky to get away with his, shall we say,...interesting
distribution choices. He is murder.

great win though.

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christopher,

22/11/2006 09:44:08

he was lucky no to break scholes leg

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GLW,

22/11/2006 09:48:47

Well done, great result for Scottish football.

After all the practice Borat got against Falkirk a fortnight ago it was a nap he would save Saha's penalty.

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AJ,

Fife 22/11/2006 10:06:58

Well done wee Gordon, ye wiped the smug grin aff Ferguson's chops!!

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charlo,

australia 22/11/2006 10:10:55

great result getting into the last 16 hope rangers
get through . magic for scotland!!!

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Helen,

22/11/2006 10:23:02

I'm English but I'm delighted Man Utd were beaten. Any true England fans with a conscience want to see them lose everything. I personally have boycotted Portugese products when I go shopping and crossed Portugal off my list of potential holiday destinations since they allowed that diving, cheating, winking bucket of slime Ronaldo to stay at Old Trafford. There is no place for idiots like him in the beautiful game and I sincerely hope he cried his eyes out last night.

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Sparks,

South Africa 22/11/2006 10:28:05

We Celtic fans in South Africa were so happy that we would actually get a Celtic match screened live over here - and we had the choice of watching the game on Yankee-doodle ESPN or on local channel etv. After ESPN's game preview labelled this as a match between 'the mighty powerhouses of english football versus the rough and rugged Celtic' we decided that was enough patronising for us so we switched to e (football's always better on e, some say).
Things started badly when the clueless idiots in the Johannesburg studio introduced the game as 'Celtic versus the previous champions, Manchester United'.
Perhaps someone should have told them that we won the trophy first.
But then we had to put up with the patronising english commentary from the eejit broadcasting with Davie Provan. Even at the final whistle, when parkhead's faithful were taking the roof of, I felt that we were being exposed to more of the usual english steretypical comments - we were lucky to get the win, lucky to go through, we have no pedigree etc. No mention of our superb CL home record, Man Ure's dubious penalty last time, etc. Even Sky News this morning's slant was very negative - Nakamura's goal coming from a 'very suspect free-kick'. No mention of the dubious nature of Man U's penalty or some of the decisions the eejit of a referee made. It seems, sadly, that if a team from Scotland delivers the goods against the big English teams then it's seems as pure luck and we really should feel grateful to be at the 'big table' in the first place.
Well sod them. We're through and Man U are not.
What a night for Celtic and Scottish football.

Rant over, I'll get back to nursing last night's hangover.
HAIL HAIL!

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ess,

here and there 22/11/2006 10:38:07

Great result for Celtic and Scottish football as a whole. We didn't play particularly well, but who cares - we're in the last 16 and that in itself is one major achievement. It was about time that we got some luck in this competition (Lyon and Juventus spring to mind) and last night it was our turn. Now we can relax and play Copenhagen at our own game and who knows, might even get that elusive away win! Well done Bhoys!

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ramjet,

Fife 22/11/2006 10:39:38

£18M Michael Carrick. Who?

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christopher,

22/11/2006 10:40:35

yes sparks, you are sooo right with what you say about the media, talk is cheap, it is facts that we should look at and the facts are celtic were the first british team to win the european cup, rangers were the first british team to qualify for the champions league, beating the english champions at the time leeds home and away..... (we were lucky that night too if i remember) only to be robbed through a bribery scandal. all in all out of the 12 meetings between english and scottish clubs we have won 6 of them...... drawn 3 and lost 3....... now forgive me if i am missing something here but this suggests that in european competition scottish teams have a hold over england...... when they play each other. so if the english league is so amazing what does that say about ours? times are changing everyone, i have said it since i was 15 that sooner or later it would be our turn, it has taken 13 years but we are getting there, we need to embrace these results but strive to do better the next time and the time after that. with the hard graft of our game and slowly the seeing the skill factor coming through, not many teams in europe with deal with an on fire rangers or celtic, lets hope the rest of the teams get themselves up to such a high standard and one of theses times one of our teams will go on and lift a european trophy. it happened before it will happen again. what goes around comes around and we as a nation have waited long enough!!!

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Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 10:50:15

Christopher, the difference I think is that the English TEams are a bit more consistant than we are and they have actually won the CL on a couple of occasions.
It is great that Scottish Team, meaning the OF of course, can qualify for the latter stages but we only do it occasionally, twice in fact last season Rangers and now Celtic. All I hope is that we, Scottish Teams, build on it.

Once again well done to Celtic and go on Rangers you do it in the UEFA cup as well.

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Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 10:51:07

Sorry guys just wanted the Ton well done Celtic.

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robibhoy,

bucharest, romania. 22/11/2006 10:54:34

you know what " celtic are in the last sixteen", and i dont care about what the english media say, naka's freekick was sublime, big arthurs save was world class, oh! and we beat, yes beat man.utd. so we celtic fans are on top of the world today.well done to all the players. hail hail.

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Calum Mcleod,

22/11/2006 11:00:45

Christopher,
Your statistics for European competition are imaginative to say the least. Are you speaking about only Champions League, European Cup or all European competition in which case I'll think you'll find you arithmetics and facts need attention? Also, why not mention Hibs, the first British Team to be in the European Cup and Aberdeen, the only Scottish Club to win 2 European competitions?

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Elidor,

22/11/2006 11:02:22

#94 Helen - you actually boycott an entire country's produce because you have a low opinion of one Portugese player? Wow, your narrowmindedness is breathtaking. Can I just ask, what exactly you think you will acheive by this?

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Joe McParland,

Fife 22/11/2006 11:04:24

Media 1 Your time is up

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Pat Mustard,

22/11/2006 11:34:15

Well to quote someone of his era, how about Connie Francis -'Whose sorry now?', what a picture it was to see that scowly red face glaring out of the dugout, back at Parkhead, where he was never on a winning Rangers side. So no excuses of playing a 'B' team, or injuries, or not getting all the decisions - doesn't get much better than a penalty to get you off the hook in the dying moments. What with the want away Balde diving in and doing the old 'bear chasing a balloon', it wasn't easy for the hoops in the first half.
Celtic sweated for the win - it wasn't just Naka hitting it right into the postage stamp again, if they hadn't of chased and harried all night they would have long been out of it. When Taggart opens the inquiry this morning I think Saha will be the first to be called in for questioning. It's too early to even contemplate Celtic winning it, let's leave that to tomorrow, watch out europe - the Bhoys are back in town...

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Pat Mustard,

22/11/2006 11:34:56

Well to quote someone of his era, how about Connie Francis -'Whose sorry now?', what a picture it was to see that scowly red face glaring out of the dugout, back at Parkhead, where he was never on a winning Rangers side. So no excuses of playing a 'B' team, or injuries, or not getting all the decisions - doesn't get much better than a penalty to get you off the hook in the dying moments. What with the want away Balde diving in and doing the old 'bear chasing a balloon', it wasn't easy for the hoops in the first half.
Celtic sweated for the win - it wasn't just Naka hitting it right into the postage stamp again, if they hadn't of chased and harried all night they would have long been out of it. When Taggart opens the inquiry this morning I think Saha will be the first to be called in for questioning. It's too early to even contemplate Celtic winning it, let's leave that to tomorrow, watch out europe - the Bhoys are back in town...

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steveo,

keeping the faith 22/11/2006 11:37:41

well what a result an instantly forgetable first 80 mins and then a nerve shredding last 13 !! Absolutely brilliant for cellick.

One or two points to make. The foul for naka's free kick, whilst although minimal contact occurred, was given because vidic came from behind to tackle Jarosic. Every single european referee will give that as a foul, even if you win the ball because it is a tackle from behind. I do not think the ref expected Naka to score and I genuinely believe that the free kick given for scholes' dive was to even things up. As for the pen there is no way on this or any other planet that it was a pen, maloney turns his back on the ball and his arms are in a normal position he isn't even looking at the ball, so how could it be hand to ball.

The english commentators on the highlights programme were priceless. Clive Allen was of the opinion it was a blatant penalty and they also highlighted 2 offside decisions which went our way and shouldn't have but they were very close. Funny how they failed to mention the elbow to Jarosic's face !

Man U were the architects of their own downfall last night, they knew that a draw would be enough for them & were quite happy to pass the ball around playing keep ball with out really producing a killer pass. Having watched all Celtic's CL games they played exactly the same way as AC and Bayern did setting their stall out for a 0-0 or a 0-1 by playing keep ball.

Be interesting to see what Crerand and Macari have to say today as when the draw was made virtually everbody, including them, said it was 6 safe points for Man U. Ooooooops !!!!!!

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Enjoy the football first,

Scotland 22/11/2006 11:40:11

Well done to Celtic -- a magnificent result that very few among us neutrals could have predicted.

But as for the 'well done the fans' -- nonsense. At least three times before the first kick of a ball, pro-IRA swill songs were ringing through the crowd. When are the majority of Celtic fans going to wake up and realise that so long as they tolerate that sort of evil in their midst, they will never command the real respect they otherwise deserve?

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christopher,

22/11/2006 12:02:05

calum these are to do with champions league games. the stats were in the scotsman yesterday.

i know hibs were the first team into the european cup and i know aberdeen won 2 european trophies i also know dundee utd were very unlucky in the 80's too. the point i was trying to get across is that things are getting better for us as a nation. have a look at it this way, rangers are top of the wee group we are in just now...... celtic have qualified with a game to spare, rangers won away in italy..... first time ever by any scottish team, scotland are sitting top of there qualie group too. so when we talk about consistency why can't we actually look at this and say we are consistent, certainly recently anyway. a string of results has to start somewhere and i believe this is the start for our club teams abroad and long may it continue. i also wonder after our national team has done so well, how many teams from whatever countries look at us as a force to be reckoned with again.

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cliftonhill,

22/11/2006 12:03:27

steveo #107m, agree with most of what you said but you can't be right about the reason for Naka's free kick, otherwise Man U would have had a penalty when Bobo tackled Ronaldo from behind. A strange game, very reminiscent of the Scotland v France game a few months back. What is it with the French in Glasgow, their national team couldn't do it, Saha had a mare and as for PLG...

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BillyB,

Glasgow 22/11/2006 12:07:21

Well done Celtic, a truly great result that even had an old "hun" like me out of my seat cheering borac's penalty save.

I have to agree though with earlier posters on just how bad STVs coverage was - missing the essential fact that Celtic had qualified for the first time ever. How bad can you get? I would bet my life that the english commentators on the ITV UK network coverage of the match (we in scotland can't see) did not have miss this. Yet up here we have to watch some wooden English presenter ( who wouldnt get near a studio in England) and the jaundiced Gerry McNee talk about how lucky celtic were, all topped off by match commentary from Archie McPherson. ( I myself am a pensioner but spare me SAGA TV on champions league nights - can these guys not just retire gracefully?)

This really was fourth rate TV coverge set against a first class acheivement by Celtic - STV even missed the signing of "you'll never walk alone" at the end, something I see via posters from america that they were allowed to enjoy without commentary on ESPN. Meanwhile we were all watching an advert for fish fingers.

Thank god the BBC have the Rangers game on Thursday. They might be able to tell us whether or not Rangers are though at the end of 90minutes. And here's hoping we are.

But once again, well done Celtic!

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Calum Mcleod,

22/11/2006 12:18:12

Christopher,
Your facts and stats in your post were a disconnected hotch potch from Champions League one minute and European competition the next. I had the feeling for a while that your selectivity meant that were maybe a politician or working for the Scottish Executive. If you aren't, perhaps you should consider it!
Billy B - Archie MacPerson has been the worst commentator by far that I have ever heard.
This is true: I once heard him say in a match preview programme, "Only a fool would try and predict the result of this game but I take Celtic to win." Honest, I about fell out the chair. And could someone please explain when a player shoots what a "wooooooooooofffffff" is?
I also heard him describe a player as having "a cultivated left foot?"
Nuff said.
Still, a great result for Celtic (and don't forget that this will have an effect on other clubs too for qualification criteria)

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Chris, Edinburgh,

22/11/2006 12:22:08

BillyB (#112) - spot on about STV, who spoilt a great occasion. For years I have thought STV's football coverage has been crap and last night's reached new depths. Andy Walker criticising players for apologising after fouls and Archie MacP replying 'You're a man after my own heart, Andy'. Disappointing that such drivel is tolerated by the producers. And Gerry MacNee - what a joke.

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steveo,

keeping the faith 22/11/2006 12:25:28

cliftonhill

It's a sad fact of european football in particular that it is much easier to get a free kick outside the box than inside (unless you are Man U of course), hence why Balde wasn't penalised for his challenge on Ronaldo. If Jarosic had gone down like that in the box there would not have been a foul given and the ref maybe did react to the crowd but it was a challenge from behind and jarosic made the most of it. When I first saw it I thought it was a bit soft and having watched it several times it still is but thems the breaks.

It probably sums up the match referees performance last night as he got most of the big decisions wrong and after cellick went 1-0 up we couldn't buy a decision from him.

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Nell,

Far from the Struan 22/11/2006 12:26:50

No. 112:- I hope they werent Portuguese fish fingers or No 94 will be boycotting the TV channel.
To put the record straight it was a good "result" for Celtic, not a good win. They were outplayed for the majority of the game. Balde should have been sent off for his crude challenge on Scholes. Ronaldo should have had a penalty when brought down by Balde (another sending off offence). The penalty should have been re-taken as Boruc was nearly stood next to Saha when he made the save. Celtic played marginally better in the second half but were woeful in the first. They got a "get out of gaol" with the dubious free kick.

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 12:28:01

Read Henry Winter's article on the game in the Daily Telegraph, well balance good report on last nights match. No whingeing about the result jsut a good piece of reporting

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Phil,

Oxford 22/11/2006 12:37:27

Message 108 -

"But as for the 'well done the fans' -- nonsense. At least three times before the first kick of a ball, pro-IRA swill songs were ringing through the crowd."


Name one.

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justmeself,

France 22/11/2006 12:57:40

Watched the game here in France. Brillant
just a wee thing. did anyone notice boruc getting pulled up by the Police at the end of the game. The French commentators couldn't understand why. Was it possibly the Man U suportters end ?

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Phil,

Oxford 22/11/2006 12:59:20

121 - Only caught a glimpse myself, but it looked as if Boruc went to celebrate with some of the Celtic fans, only to be screamed at by a stony-faced Strathclyde Polis.

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Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 12:59:39

#120 Phil go back to Oxford please, I am a Hearts supporter and I heard nothing untoward last night. The Celtic fans were exemplary and deserve credit.

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Johnny Jambo,

22/11/2006 13:00:30

#121 &122, Yes I saw it and agree with 122.

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christopher,

22/11/2006 13:06:56

calum, who are you exactly with all your snipey comments. we are on here with a feel good factor about our national pride and our club teams doing well, if you want to nit pick then go ahead. the scotsman printed those figures yesterday so if you are in a huff about it then contact the editor, otherwise leave us all in peace to revel in the collective glory of scottish football turning a corner!

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JVoH,

22/11/2006 13:07:07

Did anyone go to the game?

And if so I have heard lots of reports of the scum bag Man U fans attacking Celtic after the game - which meant police had to take action?

If this is true Celtic should have given them a pasting (joke).

There was also troubles at the first game too - all stinks off bad bad losers.

I am so happy we got the result - i heard a Man U fan reffer to Naka as the "asian kid" after the first leg. Sure think that they will remember his name now, what a goal.

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D$,

Philadelphia 22/11/2006 13:13:29

First 80 was hard to watch, but that free kick was one to go down in history. Naka is world class. Bobo was lucky not to come out as the boob here....I am never really impressed by Magic. It is about time Celtic don't get the shaft in Europe. Best of luck in the next stage....

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 13:18:43

#123 Johnny Jambo, Phil was referring to post #108, he was not suggesting the Celtic fans had sung party songs himself.
He was in fact challenging the poster of #108 to justify his allegation.
Seeing as 108 hasn't responded one can onlu assume the was up to mischief making in one form or another.
#126 I was at the game. No trouble that I was aware of and I doubt very much that the Man Ure fans would have been able to get anywhere near the Celtic fans if they were just going back to their buses. Also they left the stadium well before we did!!!!

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Nell,

Far from the Struan 22/11/2006 13:20:10

No 126:- presumably Celtic were the bad losers at the first game then?

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 13:21:44

BTW the way I have no objection to the EPL not taking Celtic or Scottish football seriously especiialy when the end result is them going home with their tails between their legs.
The arrogance of those who view the EPL as the best league in the world is breathtaking but hey don't you love it when people like that come a cropper?

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Skink,

22/11/2006 13:24:04

Where's that fa*ny MEDIA 1 from Sth Africa he was saying it'll be 4-0 to Utd what an ars*.
Well done Celtic, not a great game but magic all the same.

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Joe McParland,

Fife 22/11/2006 13:24:25

Still not heard from Media 1. HA! HA! HA!

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Kev,

22/11/2006 13:25:56

Message 108 -

What are you on u tosser?
Name one song.......

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Joe McParland,

Fife 22/11/2006 13:27:04

#131 Great minds think alike

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Cybertim,

Long Beach, California 22/11/2006 13:30:12

Great result from the team. Solid, if unspectacular performance throughout. CELTIC held United to very few real, quality chances yet created a few for the good guys. The goal was second to none. The save was a bit special also. Well done to WGS who changed the team when it was needed, and as Sir furious said, it through them for a loop. Another win in Denmark will give us top spot ... UNREAL!!! I too want to wish Rangers well in Europe, but I think that the better they do in Europe the worse they will do in the SPL. To end, I must say that the CELTIC fans were truly an inspiration to the team and are a credit to the club, wish I had been there!

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WillORNG,

Nottingham 22/11/2006 13:30:47

It's all about getting more balls in the net than the other team, whatever level of football you are at, in my case, the top of the fifth division ranking 93rd.

Nakamura's free kick was incredible, but there's the rub, he's hardly Scottish, is he?! All this Anglo-Scottish stuff at club level is academic since around the Bosman ruling and the internationalisation of the game, there are foreigners playing even at English Conference level!

Liverpool are clearly the most succesful side from our Islands and were very much a British Islands side, but no more.

It's always a pleasure to see arrogance, particularly Man U's, being humbled, so most football supporters outside of the southeast were delighted.

Having said that, Celtic's away record is poor. The ranking of Scottish clubs and achievements is poor. "English" based clubs have won the CL twice and once as losing finalists-what's the furtherst Scottish teams got in CL, last 16? So you rank 16th at best, admittedly an achievement for a country of your population.

Sure you can beat a top club in what's effectively a two legged cup game, about the level of Southend (also with a sublime free-kick) ranked 46th in England at the time, or better than Exeter City, ranked around 95th at that time.

As for the "Scottishness" of getintaerim (apologies for my sassenach spelling...) 97% or so of the population "don't like it up 'em" and that is what tends to happen when a lower league/weaker side plays a higher league/better side wheter English/Irish/Welsh or Argentine, for that matter.

Two minor points, refs tend to favour the home side, understandable psychologically, except for at the Kassam stadium-but that's football! So credit to the Scottish support, but it was definitely a penalty; the guy positively put his arms up in the air to stop the ball. Different from having your arms down passively and hitting them.

To be fair to ITV (who are admitted

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 13:31:02

#129
Nell i can only guess that somewhere inside you there's a little green man full of jealousy eager to appear. Your earlier comments are obviously anti celtic so why not at least have the guts to nail your colours to the mast. You must be struggling to keep your bitterness in. Bottom line is Celtic won this match, Celtic created few chances but Man Ure created even fewer. All very well playing pretty passes in the middle of the park but you don't score from there. As for your bad losers comment, another attempt to try and rubbish the Celtic support. Not a word of evidence to back up your statement. Also before having a go at me read my comment re post #126

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JVoH,

22/11/2006 13:31:59

NELL # 129 - how would that make them bad losers when they were attacked inside the stadium for celebrating the goal. Granted these fans were in the Man U end but even so.

On a brighter note - It is a great feeling that we beat them over two legs,

That Media 1 was being an ar*e yesterday i think we should serve him up a nice slice of humble pie.

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Dave the tim,

glasgow, Cloud 9. 22/11/2006 13:34:18

#126.....I went to the game.

And the bulk of ManUtd fans were Brand New. Just the usual Casual EEDJITS, who unfortunately in some cases teamed up with Cousins from Govan bedecked in Stone Island. This caused the closure of a couple of City Centre pubs pre-match.

Good to see Plaudits from True supporters of other teams, bout time the Celts enjoyed a bit of luck in Europe.
Good luck to the Teddy's tomorrow!

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Peter 100,

22/11/2006 13:34:29

#118 obviously a bad case of sour grapes

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justmeself,

France 22/11/2006 13:34:29

Are you sur MEDIA 1 was in South Africa.the was he was going on yesterday I thought he as on another planet

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Moon Beam,

22/11/2006 13:36:10

Aye sadly there was a wee bit of trouble from the Man Utd fans outside on London Road (the one's who were in the main stand never got held behind) but it wasn't too bad as there were too many Celtic fans for them.

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 13:40:26

#136
Why should I take any pleasure in England doing well? Your pleasure was not particularly because Scotland won but because the French lost. My teams are Celtic and Scotland. Don't support any others and never have or will. I won't support English club sides and don't support England no matter who they are playing. Frankly I don't care if England win lose or draw although sometiems the so called sports coverage in these islands seems almost designed to get our backs up. Witness the hype prior to England's game against Croatia. English pundits saying that it was a cup final for Croatia, seeming to think that England only had to turn up to collect the three points. Conveniently overlooking that Croatia's recent record in major competitions is better than Englands. We like to see arrogance lose thats the bottom line. Stop being so arrogant and you never know we might actually want you to win a game one of these days.
The Anglo Scottish stuff at club level is relevant because apparently we play in a Mickey Mouse league according to many English sports journalists and the EPL is supposedly the best league in the world, again according to English sports journalists. In this instance it's nice to put one over on them because of that attitude to Scottish football.

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JVoH,

22/11/2006 13:51:29

How true were Strachans comments on patting themselves on the back!

What sort of financial benefits will we have received for reaching the last 16?

Who thinks Maloney might suddenly decide he wants to sign a new contract?

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Realist,

UK 22/11/2006 13:53:04

What happedned with Man U last night is not surprising.

When a champion team like Man U play a glorified pub side like Celtic they often find it difficult to get down to their opponents lesser standard of play. Hence the result.

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Dave near the borders,

Hexham, Northumberland 22/11/2006 13:57:09

"The English media, that wants to enslave us..." blah blah blah "It's oor oil..." blah blah "800 years of subjugation" blah blah "victim of the English" blah blah "English b*stards".

Such a pity that a very entertaining game, in which Celtic FC did deserve to win, in one of those tight endurance matches, has once again been taken as a green light to vent all the Anglophobic Bile that seems to build up in many of the intellectually stunted Scots who frequent this site. Most of us English were watching as neutrals and feel little solidarity with either team (as I assume that certain Non-Celtic supporters also do). I find it particularly surprising that Man U should be the object of villification, sharing with Celtic many attributes (not least large, but lopsided stadium, and of course an Irish Heritage which is one of the reasons that so many testimonials are played).

The English don't generally ridicule your league (some do, but then again some Scots beat up little kids in England shirts as a matter of national pride, but it is taken for red that it is a minority) but we are not willing to put it into the same category as La Liga, Serie A, Bundesleague or EPL, and there is no shock in that, seeing as Scotland has just 5 million. It is a very good league, no excellent league for it's size, and carries more respect than say the Belgian or Danish Premiership.

Is the EPL over-rated, well perhaps by its millions of Asian and African supporters, but not really by the English. Ask most of us who is the best team in Europe, and we'd almost inevitably go with a Spanish or an Italian Team. However the SPL is not amongst the best leagues in Europe, and doesn't compare to La Liga, EPL, Bundesleague or Seria A, even though Celtic and Rangers are amongst the top twenty or so teams in Europe, the fact is they are strong teams in a weak league, with the possible exception of Hearts, the rest of the SPL would get

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Terry D.,

West Lothian 22/11/2006 14:00:19

108 you are a 100% eejit,there was NO songs at

Celtic Park last night about the ira ,open your ears.

the song you was

and they gave us James McGrory and Paul McStay,

they gave us Johnstone, Murdoch ,Auld and Hay,

most of the football greats,that passed through

Parkheads gates.

played football the Glasgow Celtic way.

but people like you only hear what they want to

hear?!!

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Football or Pigskin,

USA 22/11/2006 14:00:41

What an amazing win Celtic. Well Done.

In a season that has been littered with "bad press" for the game of Fitba in Scotland and the many Circus's travelling through the country, this is right up there with the win over France at Hampden.

Again, well done. All of Scotland should savour the moment.

As a Hibs fan Living in America, I watch every Hibs game live over the internet. I want the team that I saw last night to turn up on Sunday and give Scotland another taste of the best in Britain. Can't wait. After all, everyone knows that the wee Ginger One is a Hibby. lol.

Mon the Hibs. GGTTH.

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dgseville,

22/11/2006 14:03:30

108

Sorry but I did not here any pro IRA songs last night honestly and I would also condemn them if I had.

As for the game, WGR got it wrong big time with the midfield in the first half, because it didn't work it put pressure on the defence and provided nothing for the attack. It also made the MANCs look better than they are.

As for the second half Celtic were better, and they got through with a bit of luck, but a couple of things others have said which are very one sided.

Foul on Jarosik was soft but MU got a dodgy penalty which was even more of a gift from a dodgy free kick on Scholes that was never a free kick. MU got a soft penalty in the first game at OT too. Also what about the elbow Jarosik got in the face which was more of a penalty than MUs?

Foul on Scholes by Balde was a bad one but Scholes had his retribution on another Celtic player later on and if it was career threatening then how come he played on for the rest of the match?

I sat with my two sons watching this game and we were all unhappy about the first half but over the moon at the end. As others have mentioned Celtic have not had much luck in the Champs League in the past and this time they got some, MU also got some but did not take it.
I work in London and I'm thoroughly enjoying rubbing the MANCS noses in it today, they deserve because most of them are arrogant about a club that considering the resources it has had, have been the big underachievers.

The English press and commentators will never change, but the Times and Metro reports were fair.

Who cares, well done WGR and Celtic and the best of luck to Rangers from a Celtic fan, hope you can also do Scotland proud.

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 14:10:48

#146, "The English media, that wants to enslave us..." blah blah blah "It's oor oil..." blah blah "800 years of subjugation" blah blah "victim of the English" blah blah "English b*stards".

Where did that come from?

Think it's the Irish that suffered a wee spot of subjugation for 800 years or so, not the Scots.

I made a comment about English Sports Journalists over hyping the EPL. I didn't suggest you or others like you were quite so blinkered in your views.
As for shared heritage between Celtic and Man Ure, you are having a laugh. Hardly see that having the two largest club stadiums in the UK is anything other than coincedence.
The Testimonials are played because the fans turn out for them but not through any mutual respect from either set of fans. Anyone who says there is a special affinity between the clubs and supporters is living in cloud cuckoo land.

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JVoH,

22/11/2006 14:13:21

#150 more like when i group of over paid fairies come up against a team that work for their money they get shown up. Wee pansies were probably scarred of the cold weather like they were in Copenhagen, I for one hope Man U get ditched out of Europe again and we meet Chelsea or Arsenal in the next round and stick two fingers up at all you uneducated scum bags. Ronaldo is a classic example hes good when he is at the world cup etc where its warm but ask him to get down and dirty and he is scared to get mucky.

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 14:14:24

#151 My heart bleeds for you. No doubt it was a local Sunday amateur Portuguese pub side called Benfica who dragged you down to a non qualifying spot last season.
Anyway glorified pub site or not, we wont.
And it's nice when you ahve someone in your pub side who can take a free kick like Naka :-)

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 14:14:42

We wont not we wont

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Cybertim,

Long Beach, California 22/11/2006 14:23:36

#146; we may be educationally stunted, but we know diatribe when we read it! Let me educate you brilliant English type as to the REAL reason the EPL is on a different level to the SPL … MONEY! The same can be said for the other leagues you mentioned as top level (most of which I agree with). As for the others, Belgium, Denmark etc, they are in the same boat as us … SKINT! The attitude to the English press is not unfounded, you can read it every time a top English team play a Scottish team (especially if they win, which does not happen much when they play CELTIC). Look at what the Old Firm have done of late with very limited funds, not bad at all. Agree with your assessment of the atmosphere inside the stadiums in the EPL (vis-à-vis “gentrified” ), but maybe if they did not have to charge such exorbitant ticket prices they may get some “regular” fans inside the park who are there for the love of the team. All in all, as a going concern, I will stick with supporting CELTIC, SCOTLAND and no other! And to end with a local colloquialism .. “away in bile yur head”

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godwore7,

Glasgow 22/11/2006 14:25:42

Can anyone help ? iv'e been stuck to the ceiling since last night. Oh the sheer bliss ...........

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Big T,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 14:29:56

Same Old Celtic - ALWAYS CHEATING!!

Blatant dive for the free kick

Boruc way off his line when he saved the penalty.

And as for the Balde leg breaker on Scholes - appalling!

Never mind they're not Lithuanian so all of this has been conveniently ignored by the Weegie media!

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markmj,

lanarkshire 22/11/2006 14:32:20

media 1 has appeared on the board linking Brown and Thomson to Rangers

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Big Bri,

London 22/11/2006 14:33:31

Great result for us Celtic fans down here - come on the hu.....er the Rangers......be good to see another Scottish success this week! Pity Mad Vlad messed up Hearts chances this season or we really could have had something for the country to be optimistic about for the Scottish game!

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Cybertim,

Long Beach, California 22/11/2006 14:34:26

#157
Same old HEARTS!

Always watching another team win in Europe!!

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dgseville,

22/11/2006 14:38:17

157 Big T

Yes we got some breaks but so did the MANCS, look at 149 and others. You are just showing yourself up, your biased and ignorant, if I were you I would stick to the subject of the diving cheating non Scottish players who play for the Tarts, you have enough problems don't come on here spreading your bile.

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JIR,

Salford 22/11/2006 14:41:08

#31
Actually there was accurate reporting here in England - at least in the Granada ITV region where I was watching. The table showed Celtic on top & mentioned that they had qualified as only 1 of Man U or Benfica could join them. The final placings would obviously depend on the last matches.

Excellent free kick/penalty save. Well done, Celtic. Hopefully Rangers can get a great result too.

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StuartH,

Dundee 22/11/2006 14:47:35

I'm an Arab, and even I was excited towards the end of the game (certainly not in the first half though - very dull!). And shocked by the penalty award. Still think that was harsh.

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Big T,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 14:54:03

DGSEVILLE -

"Spreading your bile"????

Are you talking about the sectarian bile that spews off the terracing from Old Firm fans at every match?

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dgseville,

22/11/2006 14:58:58

Big T

I'm talking about you being biased; I'm not justifying pro republican songs from Celtic fans.

For what it's worth I would ban anyone who sings those songs from whatever side.

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Nell,

Far from the Struan 22/11/2006 15:04:14

MadJockMacMad:- There's def no little green man in me. Are you a glory hunter from Edinburgh?

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Big T,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 15:04:25

DGSE -

Where am I being biased in my origional post?

1. Blatant dive for the free kick - YES or NO?

2. Boruc way off his line when he saved the penalty - YES or NO?

3. Balde tackle was a shocker - YES or NO?

4. If a Lithuanian Hearts player had dived for the free kick, Andy Walker would have accused him of cheating - YES or NO?

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Duncan,

on tour 22/11/2006 15:06:11

Big T.

Did celtic win ? YES/NO.

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Dougal,

Canada 22/11/2006 15:08:40

"It's all about getting more balls in the net than the other team, whatever level of football you are at, in my case, the top of the fifth division ranking 93rd."

You should have stopped there, while you were ahead.....

"It's always a pleasure to see arrogance, particularly Man U's, being humbled, so most football supporters outside of the southeast were delighted."

SPL fans derive pleasure from beating ANY EPL team, because the arrogant English media are continually claiming that "the EPL is the best league in the world". Oddly, both Celtic and Rangers have beaten their "top" English teams (including Liverpool) not just once, but on MANY occasions. These games have always been simply written off by the biased English media as the English team having a poor game, or the Scots team "being lucky". It seems that Scots teams have been INCREDIBLY lucky against EPL teams over the years -- so I guess we were lucky AGAIN last night!

"Sure you can beat a top club in what's effectively a two legged cup game, about the level of Southend (also with a sublime free-kick) ranked 46th in England at the time, or better than Exeter City, ranked around 95th at that time."

Over the last 5-6 years we've beaten Man Utd, Liverpool, Blackburn, Juventus, Porto, Anderlecht, Benfica, Ajax, Lyon, Celta Vigo, Rosenberg and Barcelona to name just a few, and drawn with Bayern and Milan. So I'm afraid your English bias is showing -- which is to be expected.

"Two minor points, refs tend to favour the home side, understandable psychologically, except for at the Kassam stadium-but that's football!"

So how does a soft "penalty" awarded to Man U at Parkhead favour the home team? I can see your point in reference to Old Trafford, where Man U got ANOTHER soft penalty, though.

"So credit to the Scottish support, but it was definitely a penalty; the guy positively put his

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yarniebarnie,

afghanistan 22/11/2006 15:11:06

good effort scotland, I mean Celtic. Looks like you really showed those bastard English, I mean Man Utd fans who is the greater nation (i mean football club).
Not to mention the out and out evil that is is English Press. There to blame for everything that's rubbish about your country.
Congratulations! I'm sure you have the quality to go on and win it now

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinbrugh 22/11/2006 15:14:49

#167
Not a glory hunter at all, Season Ticket holder at CP who happens to live in Edinburgh because of work.
Always have always will be a Celtic Bhoy.
Magnanimity obviously isn't a word on your vocabulary Nell but never mind.

The green referred to the jeaousy Nell obviously with the bile that you spew there's no green to your nose

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C'mon the Dees,

22/11/2006 15:15:29

Fantastic result. Let's hope Rangers do the double this week and make it a great week for Scottish football.

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Big T,

22/11/2006 15:17:07

DUNCAN - yes celtic did win.

Now care to answer my questions?..........................................no I thought not!

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JIR,

Salford 22/11/2006 15:17:09

#61
Mean spirited - hoping Rangers are knocked out! Especially as there are plenty of posts here from Rangers fans congratulating Celtic on their achievement in reaching the last 16 (I'm one of them)

#51 - I have 2 Man U fans to tease at work here! Not often I get the chance. As a Gers fan (& as a Scot generally of course), I usually have to take more than I give out! But it's been a lot of fun recently especially with the great results in Scottish sport over the last 12 months - the 6 nations rugby, the France result compared with the English performances vs Macedonia/Croatia

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sandy39,

Canada 22/11/2006 15:21:24

even from the "blue" side of glasgow, I am proud of the Celtic. The Celtic should be proud to wear those fomous green and white hoops. continue to do so (and not those drab "away" stips) when representing Glasgow and Scotland

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Edith Piaf,

22/11/2006 15:21:24

Any team that showboats when the score is 0-0 deserves all their arrogance brings.

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dgseville,

22/11/2006 15:22:02

Big T,

I agree with what you are saying except you are not being even handed

Blatant dive for the free kick - YES, as was the dive Scholes made before the free kick for the penalty

2. Boruc way off his line when he saved the penalty - YES or NO? Yes, but all goalies do this!

3. Balde tackle was a shocker - YES or NO? Yes but what about the elbow Jarosik got which should have been a penalty and Scholes got his own back on someone else later on as he always does.!

4. If a Lithuanian Hearts player had dived for the free kick, Andy Walker would have accused him of cheating - YES or NO? Don't know but you don't need to be so paranoid just because some of your players dive. Anyway don't talk to me about diving, Rooney and Ronaldo both made the most of things last night.

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Hibz seven,

Easter Road 22/11/2006 15:22:26

As a Hibee, I would like to congratulate Celtic on their Historic win. Well done. You played the game well and took your chance when it presented itself.

I'm looking forward to the Celtic game and may the best team win.

Glory, glory to the Hibees.

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Paul,

22/11/2006 15:40:24

What a load of shite half you folk speak.

One football club beats another in a group stage of a big tournament. And this means that club, or Scottish football or Scotland is great and the losing club, or English football, or England is crap.

What a complete and utter load of bollocks.

The only peope that win out of all this brainless drivel are the ones everyone says they hate so much, the media. Of course the media hypes these games and builds up tension and rivalry, thats their feckin job. Virtually the same people, and certainly the same class and type of people own the media in England and Scotland and they are laughing at your stupidity.

Why on earth people can't see this, like a Nakamura free kick, totally defeats me.

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JIR,

Salford 22/11/2006 16:01:12

#160
You missed out Liverpool & Everton from your list - big fan bases both of them & L'pool will probably (1 day) challenge the other big 3 in the EPL if they can match Euro success with domestic success

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Brian,

Tattiemunching Gypsy 22/11/2006 16:37:26

# 157, A Big T(it) in need of a dummy tit.

God Bless The Hoops !

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Big T,

22/11/2006 16:46:53

JR - yes indeed, congratulations on the co-efficient points for Celtic and Eire.....oops! sorry! freudian slip - I meant Scotland.

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WillORNG,

Nottingham 22/11/2006 16:46:59

#144.

Why shouldn’t you take pleasure in England doing well?

My pleasure was admittedly more at France losing (the auld enemy, I believe ;-) ) partly with Scotland winning.

I wasn’t talking about supporting other clubs, just being pleased for anyone in the British Isles who do well. At least you don’t take pleasure in us losing, I presume?

Most people in England hate the hype too, but we all know what the media is like for that. Anybody who follows football are aware that Croatia at home have a successful record, and hostile support, getting any result there is an achievement. The same goes for the EPL.

One of my points was precisely that point about arrogance, if Celtic lose to Inverness because they were arrogant, it’s funny, whatever the level of football.

I appreciate the fun it is for you, but that puts you in danger of making the same arrogant mistakes. Keep it in context, Scottish teams are ranked lower than English ones because of the results they achieve overall, not just in bilateral cup-like games, where the underdog side will obviously be “up for it” like Southend or Exeter.

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connaughtboy,

aberdeen 22/11/2006 16:50:45

Nell #129, WillORNG #136 and Dave #146 - who cares what you think! What a load of pus. Well said JVoH #145. Celtic won, end of. By the way, Media 1 is showing himself up by sneaking around other threads!

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justmeself,

France 22/11/2006 16:57:01

Big T ,you really are buttoned up the back. I don't think the Eire's rating will be effected by what Celtic are doing in Europe. Your last comment has got nothing to do with last nights game. But shows where your previous comments are coming from and where you are trying to go. Bet you'd like you team to be in Celtic's place

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Big T,

22/11/2006 17:08:35

justmeself - sorry I was confused by all the Eire flags and tops that were on display at CP last night!

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He's A Rocket,

West Lothian 22/11/2006 17:09:53

Sorry for being late into the fray - Well done Celtic!

Lucky? Maybe, but you make your own luck.

Hope you go on and top the group, then who knows........?

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WillORNG,

Nottingham 22/11/2006 17:10:51

#171 You said it! You were lucky.

Joking aside, given the luck I've had with England and my club side, if football were a mistress, I'd've got rid years ago!

Hardly arrogant. I hate arrogance. Doesn't stop us getting accused of it just because we're the "biggest" club in the Conference. Shouldn't be there, but if you don't score more than your opponents, you go down, even if it is on 49 points!

Am I bitter? Nope, I prefer Cider, call it the West Country influence.

To reiterate the point, weaker opposition will always raise their game against stronger opposition and in a cup competitition they can pull it off. Overall though, Scottish teams have gone through a dip in the CL. FACT. Deal with it!

Penalties, it was such a boring game most of the time my gaze was averted at that point...we're all biased in some way shape or form, even you.

As for the media, don't confuse a nation with it's media. I know how "accurate" it is and dislike it just as you do.

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justmeself,

France 22/11/2006 17:18:31

If you were only confused that wouldn't be a problem. With a bit of health care you never know , you could end up almost normal

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!,

UKI 22/11/2006 17:19:38

Celtic were so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so LUCKY. A free kick that never should have existed and a penalty save from a cheating Boruc off his line. CELTIC ARE CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS, CHEATERS. But then again thats how you win games against teams in the champions league BECAUSE CELTIC CANT MACH THEM IN QUALITY. MAN UTD OUTPLAYED YOU FOR MOST OF THE GAME AND A LUCKY FREE KICK SAVED YOU. I ENJOY SEEING CELTIC GETTING THRASHED IN THE LAST 16

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Edith Piaf,

22/11/2006 17:40:05

Celtic were no more lucky than ManU in Barcelona or Liverpool in Turkey. What's that I used to hear about when people read the history books, etc, etc?

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YabbaDabbaDoo,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 17:46:58

Does anyone think that getting to the last 16 is better than reaching the Uefa cup final?

In terms of footballing acheivement, it depends on the quality of teams that we have beaten. Over two legs so far, we've got the better of Man U, equalled Benfica and Copenhagen has yet to be determined.
Compare that to beating:- Boavista, Liverpool, Stuttgart, Celta Vigo & Blackburn Rovers...

Even though it's taken four attempts to do it, reaching the last 16 - while still a great a acheivement, for me doesn't measure up to the Uefa Cup final.

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Phil,

Oxford 22/11/2006 17:53:28

I'd rather we were lucky winners than go down to another glorious defeat.

Celtic were due a break in Europe.

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Phil,

Oxford 22/11/2006 17:54:41

197 - getting to a major cup final is always going to be a more special ocassion, but Last 16 is a fantastic achievement for most clubs in Europe, especially ones from the SPL.

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Joe McParland,

Fife 22/11/2006 17:55:01

Earth calling Media1

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Andrew Allan,

22/11/2006 17:56:04

!#195 watching the game this morning I realized if you had taken the goal out, and anything that showed the score, then you showed the game to people, then said a goal was scored, who won,99% of the people without doubt would of said Man Utd.So yes you are right Celtic were so very lucky to win. In my life I have seen three games that were won by the teams that were well out classed, one of them was in the eighties, and the other two was in the Scotland v France, and last nights Celtic v Man Utd, but in the end if you don't score the goals you don't win the game. Yes there is a good chance Celtic will be blown away in the next round, but the money earned will pay for better players for next year.

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MadJockMacMad,

22/11/2006 18:16:10

#188
Will sorry to upset you but why should I care about Wales, England or Northern Ireland winning anymore than I care about Italy, Germany etc winning.
I'm not N irish, I'm not Welsh I'm not English, German or Italian either, I'm only interested in Scotland winning.
I couldn't give a rats @rse if you win lose or draw unless Scotland are actually affected by it.
As far as football is concernecd you are our next door neighbours yes, but still a foreign country. Hopefuly soon to be a completely foreign country with seperate passports too but thats another issue.

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MadJockMacMad,

22/11/2006 18:20:34

#193
I agree one should not confuse a coutnry with it's media, but me thinks you are also guilty of that jsut as much as any Scot, lets face it none of us generally ahve a good view of the USA and yet there are lots of great people there jsut as there are in England and Scotland etc. However, it is what you are presented with that tends to colour your perspective.
I agree with your comment on arrogance however we aren't the team that claims that " We arra pepul"
We deservedly lost to Falkirk recently.
We treat ICT as seriosuly as anyone else when it coems to getting three points. I myself think we will have a very tough game on Sunday agaisnt Hibs and no guarentee of 3 points there.

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Andrew Allan,

22/11/2006 18:28:56

MadJockMacMad#202 Well said. When asked what national team I will support in a competition when Scotland isn't playing, I say none, as I support Scotland 100%, and that leaves no percent for any other team, it drives the English mad, as they either want us to support them for being british, or want to have a go at us and want to find a good reason.
I too wish the countries to be seperated, but the figures at the moment says Labour is in front by 8%, and SNP needs enough seats to do with out any other party that won't go for the independence vote, it doesn't look good, we need alot more support.

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nearlyneurotic,

22/11/2006 18:40:05

Gerz McNee has just appeared on STV evening news and again failed to congratulate Celtic when given the chance,"lets not cloud the issue,"when he was asked about Celtics achievement last night.
Worse still he failed to explain why he didn`t realise the Celtic victory meant they had qualified.
STV rarely have live top class football to air,their viewers really do deserve a more professional approach from those they charge to present such occassions.

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richtee,

22/11/2006 18:52:52

As a Jambo fan out in the colonies this past while has been very frustating.
Thanx to Celtic for the great spirit shown.

That penalty save..........fantastic!!!!
Great result for all us exiles...keep the focus

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canuk,

ontario 22/11/2006 18:54:02

#184
your about the only person who has said it like it is .
And big T i dont think that you see the UNION JACK flying to High at Parkhead maybe its the Tri colour that flys the highest

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Rangers & Scotland,

Canada 22/11/2006 19:06:11

Life long Rangers man myself. I think many people like to say, "oh, they were lucky" after a result like last night. But when you look at the recent track record Celtic have at home, you have to admit that they have been very consistent. Either they are lucky every single time they play at home in Europe or they have the fight and desire to win those important games.

I'm hoping Rangers can show similar passion and have similar success on Thursday.

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Brian,

Tattiemunching Gypsy 22/11/2006 21:23:39

# 191 Big T(it)

What's your problem with Ireland's national flag ?
Like the majority of Celtic fans based in Scotland my blood and my family are Irish. Should we get a major blood transfusion, on a collective basis, to satisfy intolerant morons like you ?
The Irish-Scots are the largest minority in Scotland... so get used to it.
Acceptance of diverse communities is better than being bitter and twisted.
God Bless !

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Enjoy the football first,

22/11/2006 22:09:57

Brian # 209 said:

"The Irish-Scots are the largest minority in Scotland... so get used to it.
Acceptance of diverse communities is better than being bitter and twisted."

We should be used to it by now. Idiotic clinging to long-past roots are what prop up the Old Firm divide. Your team has Irish roots -- 120-year-old roots. The flying of the tricolor now has nothing to do with the roots, and everything to do with flying your religion, purely to pi$$ off the morons on the other side of the fence.

Same goes for those other eedjits. Their Union Jack is a symbol of the Union, i.e. the sworn enemy of the Irish Republic (at least in Republicans' eyes); likewise their foul St Georges crosses, complete with Red Hand graphic.

Wake up, you fool. By waving your flag you are perpetuating one of the sporting world's biggest disgraces -- bigotry in Scottish football.

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 22:18:36

#209

Scotland, the best small MINDED country in the world.
Brian really he's not worth the effort, the only brain he has is a bigoted one. No doubt about that.
Funny I don't hear him complaining when the flag of another country is waved regularly at another ground in Glasgow. I guess it's okay to wave the 6 county statelet flag as after all they are protestant and British into the bargain, unlike the papist Irish.

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MadJockMacMad,

Edinburgh 22/11/2006 22:28:40

#210

So by your way of thinking, the St Patrick's Day parades held in many countries around the world are also bigoted? Don't be ridiculous.
Try havinga look at the Irish Tricolour sometimes. Sure there are Tricolours at Celtic park but msot fo them are Green White and Gold, not Green White and Orange.
Therer are also plenty of Green and White saltires too. Celtic do not wear blue.
Rangers wear Red White and Blue, no one complains that they wave the French Tricolour after all they ahvppen to be the same colours.
The Union Rag on the other hand I object to on the grounds that we should remove the Blue from it entirely. If they wave the Ulster statelets bastardised version of the provincial flag of Ulster then so what I really don't care, in fact I find it almost laughable bearing in mind the red hand is the Red Hand of the O'Neills and is of Gaelic Catholic heritage.

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Brian,

Tattiemunching Gypsy 22/11/2006 23:46:09

#210 - Only a fool would regard Ireland's national flag as a sectarian symbol.
It is only in Scotland that identification with Ireland, be it through family, song, or flags, has been sectarianised. Surely this says more about the insecurities of Scottish society and its own lack of nationhood, and its inability to accept and recognise the Irish-Scots in the same way it recognises Italian-Scots and AsianScots.
During the summer when Italy won the World Cup hundreds of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th generation Italians celebrated Italy's victory in George Square... and quite rightly so.
Would the same tolerance be shown toward 2nd , 3rd, and 4th generation Irish who celebrated Ireland winning the World Cup?
I think we know the answer to that one. Look how young Aiden McGeady is treated by supporters, including so-called neutral supporters, simply for playing for Ireland. He's only exercising his right to play for his nation of origin.
Only in Scotland would this be regarded as controversial... due to its intolerance to all things Irish.
One Scotland Many Cultures... except one.

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Brian,

Tattiemunching Gypsy 22/11/2006 23:51:58

#211 MadJockMacMad - you're right he's not worth bothering about... and he's not the only one. It can't take the shine off our tremendous victory over the best team in England.

Hail Hail
Goodnight and God Bless

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Dalgla,

Scotland 23/11/2006 00:35:18

#44
media 1 is still revising his/her tarot tuition, while movin away from alcohol and others....
Man who?.... I love that banner!!!
Great Boruc! Great bhoys! GREAT CELTIC!
Slàinte mhath!!!
Waulk on!!!

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Dalgla,

Scotland 23/11/2006 00:52:13

#212 MadJockMacMad
I fully agree your comments fella...but we all know that gers "red white & blue" has to do with Breatunn...not France.
Well said #214-Brian.
Anyway...this forum is about fitba..
C´moan Celts!

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Wee Jock,

Vancouver, Canada. 23/11/2006 01:27:39

A " Gordon For Me ".
"Wee" Gordon out coached Sir Alex or out foxed him. The first half was hard tae watch, part of wee Gordon's plan ?
The 2nd half was quite different. Celtic attacking and what a cracker of a goal and a brilliant save in the last few minutes. The result was all we needed.
On tae the 16 now. Good luck and we will be watching in Canada.
Wee Jock

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therevd,

Lao P.D.R. 23/11/2006 06:19:25

Well done Celtic. I really thought that hearing the match report on the BBC World Service would inspire some cheer. The good old Beeb World Service stumped up enough money for the rights to broadcast the English Premier League, with the result that listeners never hear the end of how fantastic the "footy" is that they broadcast live. Would they now eat humble pie and admit that their perpetual overblown hyping of this league was perhaps a shade unmerited? Not a chance!...."Biggest shock of the round" was how they described it, as if Celtic weren't worthy of having Manchester United come and defecate on the pitch at Celtic Park. Well BBC, at least I'm not paying a license fee for the rubbish you serve up but I think it needs said that Scottish sport is shamefully neglected on the World Service. Question: How do you make 5 million people disappear? Answer: I don't know - try asking the BBC. Of course they'd probably answer, what 5 million people?


 

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