With the lack of desire and ambition shown in the transfer market by Rangers owner and chairman Sir DoesnotWantawayAfterall, Rangers under SuperWally and JesterCoist cannot be relishing a visit to SuperCally whether it be Saturday, Sunday Monday, Tuesday,Wednesday,Thursday or a Friday.

Inverness on a monday night, what is Setanta thinking about, I think its about time that the OF stopped going to away games, the likes of hearts would then bring the price of a ticket for the OF to the same as the rest of the SPL.

#2 What makes you lot so special that you cannot travel to away games on a Monday night? The fans of all the non biggoted clubs have been doing so for the past season without complaining, and as for pricing we pay the same as the OF at swinecastle and other away games, but at the OF grounds we get stuck in a corner with a sh1t view and at darkheed the view is hampered by the structure,

#4

Bigoted, you couldn’t even spell it.

What a surprise!! The Southern Irish satellite company trying to stick it up the gers again.

#2. I would charge you double for the cost of extra policing. The less Old Firm fans at Tynecastle, the better. That way, we'll not have to listen to your sectarian songs and racist chants. Maybe we should build a special section for you - just behind the floodlight pylon?

I'm with #8.
Without you bigoted skumbags at the game we could cut down on policing charges, save money on having to replace the broken seats, and our ears wouldn't be subjected to the sectarian filth that spews out of the mouths of the Rangers and Celtic away support.
I'm sure the good people of Inverness will be delighted if you decide not to come up in your buckie buses and infect the place.

Scoop ( number 8 ) Are you serious ?

Have you ever been to a Hearts v Celtic match at Tynecastle ? The bile emitting from , some of ,the Hearts fans is a disgrace .

Do you remember the guy who wasn't even lifted for continually calling Petrov a " gypo " , despite being spoken to a few times by the police ?

I can only speculate as to the resons why he wasn't arrested !

And finally what about the worst minutes silence , ever , for the pope , at Hampden?

In all my years watching football I have never heard a minutes silence like it . You usually get some morons shouting , but an entire end chanting ?

It's absolutelty incredible that a Hearts fan would have a go at any set of fans , regarding sectarianism .

Given all the OF supporters are the best in the world and would walk a million miles to see their team, it should be a pleasure to pay whatever their host decide to charge. Charges may be big but that's because Celtic and Rangers changed the rules where all home gates were kept where they'd been split before. Fair enough - there's more of them so they felt entitlted, this was the payback.
While the obvious tie of the round is the Edinburgh derby I predict that Setanta will act on the unwritten rule that the OF never play on a Monday and will see that the derby could be shifted more easily. Pants of course but wait and see.

#8 #9 your ears must be painted on,I take it you never heard your scummy hearts fans sing about JINKY at the semi-final and I take it you never heard hearts fans home/away singing billy boys, or singing about Mr Mowbrays ex-wife, and handing out sick bits of paper with a certain song on it about his poor wife. ( NOW THATS WHAT THE REST OF THE WORLD CALLS SICK).

#10 MORAL HIGH GROUND ALERT..........MORAL HIGH GROUND ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!

#10 Ferrari

' an entire end chanting '

thats just absolute rubbish but don't let total fabrication get in the way of your heart felt if slightly exaggerated rant.

You lot are utter rediculous. Been a Rangers fan all my life and I love the banter with the opposition fans. Bigotted the only people I can see been bigotted on this forum is non OF fans. Bigotted means lack of tollerance by the way. (For those that didn't know that). However having said that. What about the New year old firm match. Its back at last. They were the best games of the season. (Well for RFC and CFC fans)

argh !!! Stupid Setanta the biggest game of the weekend moved to a Sunday move the Celtic game to Sunday wish we didn't even have to rely on TV money.

#10 - wot planet are you on?

Firstly the whole end? If thats wot you think then i suggest you stop drinking buckfast before football games that start @ 12.15 on a sunday.

What was never explained to me was why have a minutes silence for a man who had no relevance in scottish football.

Hearts v Celtic was a scottish football game, played after his funeral, which even in the catholic world is the end of the mourning period.

Why were there no minutes silences @ any of the other games played that weekend?

Think its another case of the "best fans in the world" bringing religious bigitory the forefront of scottish football.

#10 Agree with you on the minute silence for the pope - as do the majortiy of the Hearts fans. Any similar condemnation for the bi-weekly singing of pro-IRA songs by a majority of your lot? Nah - probably not.

It's hard to choose who is worse between you and your cross -town neighbours. I would just prefer that you stayed under your rocks and watched the away games on TV.

#10

I take it you are one who has been brainwashed to believe that singing about the IRA killing innocent people is ok?

I aslo take it that you haven't been to Tynecastle in the last year? The only song sung by our fans which could be construed as sectarian was Hello, Hello - from September onwards, when UEFA took their stance on it, the song has disappeared from the hymn sheet. At the last visit of Celtic, it took until the 65 minute for your own fans to sing something that was even football related.

You've picked the wrong topic - all the OF clubs do is pay lip service to addressing this matter. Truth is, if they were going to truly tackle the matter, they would need to ban 100k fans between them.

Other clubs (Hearts and Hibs most notably) have erradicated such things as Hello, Hello - No pope of Rome etc. Why cant the OF manage it?

I'll admit - I absolutely detest Celtic. But not anymore than I hate Rangers. And there is certainly no edge behind it - I just can't stand your holier than thou attitude.

Firstly....pointless article.....Rangers will have the 2nd leg of their CL qualifier on the 7th or the 8th. Hence, there is NO CHANCE that they can play on the Monday.....Scotsman...I think you need better researchers.

Secondly....it is amusing to see Celtic fans taking the moral high ground on minutes silences...given their own clubs record....

Thirdly...in an attempt to create a suitable discussion....would Scottish Football be better without Rangers and Celtic? Clubs like Kilmarnock or Motherwell (for example) must rely on the huge away supports of the two clubs - 6,000+ fans at £25 a pop is £150,000 before anything else...3 or 4 times a year..its a lot of money...the extra policing surely does not cost that much.

#20
The same as there is no way Celtic suporters could remain silent for the death of the Queen Mother?

# 16

Good point Alasdair.
But what can you expect from these muppets.
Really loking forward to the game i will be there along with the other 5000 reds.
Yet again we will probably have more fans than United as we usually do down there.
You gonna be at the game ?

#22 - That sums it up just about perfectly.

Chucky you are where you belong

blackpool a weegies paradise

Strange that celtic played on rememberance sunday this year- no silence.

Oh wait thats different isn't it...?

NOT

It's pretty obvious that Sultana want to get the Inverness game in before the weather closes in, however I do feel sorry for all the bears that have to travel up there on a Monday night - NOT.

Anway there will still be a few up there from the holidays wont there - just being released.

#29
Ironic that you refer to the Queen Mother as a nazi, yet you support the Pope!

*********-TO VLADIMIR ROMANOV-*********

ALL TOGETHER NOW

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR PRESIDENT
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO YOU.

SING UP

Stop it please have you just found out that The piper calls the tune TV rules OK I will not even talk about sectarianism as it makes me sick and I am a staunch Hearts fan and always will be

I agree Ian K. The clubs took the money so they will just have to bite the bullet.

Chelsea complained about most of their games being switched in the run in last season. So it's not all about small to medium sized clubs like Rangers being inconvenienced. It happens to all clubs. I recall celtic beating Boavista in the Uefa Semis...travelling back from Portugal on the Friday Morning and playing Rangers at Ibrox at noon the following day. But we still won easily, even though we were knackered and it was wrong that TV couldn't adjust the timing to the Sunday.

That said, I think it's best OF fans did stop going to away matches as they seem to attract the real hardcore bigots.

I see in the Daily Record Celtic are in for Two Italian players...Delvechio and Donati.

#23, I see your point about the extra revenue generated by the OF at away matches for certain teams, but what about all the extra revenue they'd generate if people from Kilmarnock, Dundee and Edinburgh were watching their local team and not jumping on a bus to Glasgow every other saturday? If the OF left (for England) I'm certain that the average attendance of every other club in the league would increase.

This argument on who is worse than anyone else is pathetic and does nobody and favours.

As for the complaints about Edinburgh Bias, this is an Edinburgh newspaper.

If I read this in the Press and Journal I would get an Aberdeen centric view onl the world, why not read that if you are so easily offended.

http://www.thisisnorthscotland.co.uk/

37 - you better watch....trying to indulge in serious football related discussion!!

I also see your point, however, the people who travel from other cities to watch Rangers or Celtic, won't suddenly stop then go to watch the smaller clubs. Say they move to the English League, the clubs won't "move", nor will Glasgow. Watching either club will be just as accessible for the same fans as they are now so the same fans will still go, the away travel may be affected but home gates won't, so where will the additional fans at "wee" teams come from?

I would expect attendances to rise, especially in the first year, but this will flatten out again and would any rise be enough to cover the losses? Just look at Aberdeen, for example, they have had their best season in AGES, yet cannot get the numbers through the gates...would Rangers and Celtic moving to England suddenly bring them all out the woodwork?

These discussions about who is better or worse are becoming really tedious-move on please.Looks a great start to the season with the Edinburgh derbies being one of the highlights of last season.Hope the quality,passion and excitement on show continues next season and Setanta continue to screen so lots of us neutrals can enjoy the big derby in the east.Personally I love visiting Tynecastle as the Hearts fans are always pumped up for our visit and the atmosphere is amazing.The 3-2 win for Celtic last new year was a great start to the year and YES i have witnessed more than a few defeats there too!!!!Glad to see the Rangers game back for new year-brilliant,brilliant,brilliant.Oh jingle bells............Hail hail.

It is a risky strategy Barney you're right. Maybe we should end our posts with something inflammatory and/or bigoted just to appease the masses!

I can see that home attendances won't be affected (if the OF moved to England), however, OF fans will soon get tired of having to go to places like London, Birmingham and Portsmouth every other week, and in my experience football fans will go and watch whatever football is available. If Rangers or Celtic were away at Portsmouth and St Mirren or Motherwell were at home to another SPL team I'm sure there'd be OF fans going along. And that's before we get to OF fans living outside of the Glasgow area. I'm a Hibs fan, but live in South London, so I regularly go and watch Crystal Palace and even Bromley play.

#10. Why should customers who have paid over £20 to watch a football match at the so-called national stadium be subjected to your version of religion because your leader has died. How many of the Celtic support paid their respects in chapel that Sunday? Very few because 98% of them were nursing hangovers from the night before. You want to show respect for a late Pope? Do so at home or the appropriate religious meeting place and I won't inflict my version of religion on you. I have now wish to be be ruled by Moscow, Mecca or Rome. Ruled by London is more than enough!

#43 should, of course, read no wish to be ruled....

43...

I agree wholeheartedly.

It should be the same when a Royal dies and when political leaders die...in fact only football people - players/managers/fans - should be given a minutes silence at football matches.

43...

I think you will find that more than 2% of Celtic fans are practising catholics.

Tad wide of the mark there mate!

#44, I never said that the passion would be there, just the people. Do passionless supporters not have to pay, or not count on attendance stats?! I agree there's no substitution for your first true love, but if your first true love is 400 miles away and your second or third like is playing just up the road.....

Re minutes silence for the pope, I didn't make noise but neither did I stand up for the leader of a despotic and almost fascist regime responsible for child abuse and cruelty to women that is beyone belief.

What it had to do with football is beyond me. Sure the incumbents at Parkhead would keep quiet for a minute if the Queen* died. Yeah right. Sadly the events at Hampden that day at the semi final just gave these inbred paranoid cretins even more ludicrous bile to spout about HMFCs support being 'bigotted'. The biggest pot and kettle scenario ever.

LJ
*no time for that old hag either before you jump on it you lame fools.

No...50

You are right it doesn't matter. But there is no disguising the majority of Celtic supporters are from an Irish Catholic background. Most probably don't practise but more than 2% do. I was only correcting No.43...Alex.

This is the way i see the spl shaping up after the first week of fixtures.

Celtic 2 Vs 0 Kilmarnock

Dundee United 1 Vs 2 Aberdeen

Gretna 1 Vs 1 Falkirk

Hearts 2 Vs 0 Hibernian

I.C.T 0 Vs 1 Rangers

St Mirren 1 Vs 2 Motherwell

In the first fixture i think that Celtic will ease past Kilmarnock. Celtic have a good nucleas of quality players and really i cant see past them again this year. Where as Kilmarnock are doing really well under Jim Jeffries and they deserve alot of credit.
They will again also continue to improve again this year but the bhoys will certainly be to strong and although i think that celtic will dominate the game i fancy the score to be low due to some bad finishing and some good goalkeeing.

Well i will try to keep this as least bias as i possible can. Although United finished in the botom 6 i think they will achieve a top half finish this time round.
Aberdeen have done well to build a decent squad who are capable of doing well in europe.
This will certainly be a tight New firm derby but i have went for the dons and i think they will sneak by a goal.

Now the big 1.
I really fancy hearts for this one. Hearts will continue to bolster there squad with quality players funded by romanov. Hearts are definatly a good bet split the old firm this year aswell. Maybe no european football at tynecastle this season is a good thing as this will provide no distractions for hearts and the can really give there all in the league.
Where as His on the other hand are not shaping up well this summer.
Firstly i dont think that john collins is the man for the job accompanied by the loss of key personel i think hibs will have a job on there hands to finish in the top half of the division. So i fancy hearts to coast through the first derby of the season.

Gretna are the new boys to the spl this year and sur

No. 52...

Yet again rolling out the old child abuse bit.

Go check the facts mate and you will find that governments (including the British Gov.) have employed more paedophiles than any other organisation.

The protestant churches are just as bad again go check the stats.

Also abuse to women? Are you having a laugh? The most adored person in the catholic church next to Jesus himself is his mother!

If you want to check out abuse to woman, go to the battered wives institutes and ask the woman...if their husbands/boyfriends were religious. I think you will find a straightforward answer.

I am the first to admit the catholic church pre Vatican 2, was all fear guilt and damnation. But it is a vastly different church today and mainly brought about by Pope John Paul the Great.

I await the avalanche...and even a few cheap shots at big jock too.

oh dear 10# we called celtic fans gypos and petrov too well u are gypos better than up the ra and all that baloney, sensitive to gypo speak well how do u think my 8 year old daughter enjoyed being called an orange bee on her one and only visit to parkheid or parasite.

Why should we have had a minutes silence for a religious leader that has nothing to do with scotland or scottish football. And that was another stitch up they knew the hearts fans wouldnt have stood silent me for one i did not do anything id have loved to have seen them have a minutes silence if it had been celtic v rangers that day.

frankly if ur a catholic thats ur faith but doesnt mean i have to have it rammed down my throat everytime i go to a sellick v hearts game and for the record my wifes catholic before u start saying im anti catholic im not

#54
I'm reasonably confident come the new season.
The Dons have a established squad that can only be enhanced by signings like MacNamara, Mair and De Visscher. Unlike sides like Hibs we haven't lost any players and we shouldn't need a settling in period at the beginning of the season.
We also have by far the strongest defence in the SPL outside the OF, a decent midfield and an attack of Lovell, Miller and Mackie which (injury excluded) is gelling into a proficient unit.
For the first time in a long time I think we have a serious chance of making a real dent on the honours, and I'll be hoping for at least one Hampden visit this coming season (and no, we played Queens Park at Firhill last year).
However, first things first. 3 points at Tannadice would be a good start, and let's take it from there.

Going by some of the comments on here, we shouldn't have had a minute's silence for 9/11, as it had nothing to do with football.

Sometimes you have to accept that there are bigger things than football. And however distasteful you may find it, the Catholic Church is one of those things, with the Pope being a leader of global stature. If you can't put aside your religious convictions for ONE MINUTE to honour the life of a global leader, that's a very sad, small-minded thing.

Something to bear in mind for next time...it would have taken one minute to honour his life. By choosing not to do so, you're signing up for years of talking about it.

when the pope dies he is replaced by another pope. Sad day when it happend but absolutely nothing to do with football. The people who worship him would have grieved and paid their respects long before the Scottish Cup semi was played.
Don't think anyone who isn't bigot minded would be bothered that a minutes silence wasn't observed at a football match!!
Have to agree Aberdeen lad i would have nearly exactly you're predictions. Think Hearts can take at least 5 off the hibbies tho if it clicks early doors and the new boys put in a show.
Hope we have a strong Hearts,Hibs,Aberdeen and Utd next year as it is about time someone else won the league

with regards to a minutes silence this is just respect be it the pope the queen the moderater someone in that crowd will be affected and regardless who you support look around what are you given to the next generation hate and bile people laugh at us we are a small nation who cannot even show respect for one minute hang your head in shame

#63

The proportion of deviants is pretty much the same across most if not all religions. Information can be gleaned from Home Office, Police, and Academic studies.

#68

You are obviously still a client.

whatever happened to "sticks and stones etc..". Are you really so hurt by someone calling you a wee name? Grow up. It has happened since the dawn of time and will continue long after we are all history.
whenever someone insults me based on my heritage, skin colour, religion (or lack of), hair colour or any other such reason, I am not offended because I am proud of who or what I am. Someone elses jealousy or fear is not going to ruin my day.

As much as I love this wee game we call football, sometimes it seems that it just keeps us fighting amongst ourselves....hmmm...isn't that a control tactic that has been used for centuries?

"when poor hunt the poor through mountain and moor, then the rich man will keep us in chains"

#70

so it is all right to call someone any name they like? Just because of history?

T**t (but that is obviously OK)

#54 Its amazing how well tecnology works even when your out with the sheep.

1
Aberdeen have done well to build a decent squad who are capable of doing well in europe?
=Aberdeen to do well in Europe the jury’s out on that one mate.
2
Gretna are the new boys to the spl this year and surprisingly enough i think they will stay up.
They have all the ingredients that are needed for the spl.
Falkirk are a team that are happy to just be in the spl and i think that there opener against the black and whites will end in stalemate.
= Falkirk perform better away from home and going to Motherwell should give us a three point start and a few goals as well, Gretna are far from SPL and should not be in the league due to not meeting the stadium criteria that Falkirk were denied on twice, Gretna will go down and have the worst points tally in the history of the SPL and it will break there hundred odd supporters hearts. No we are not just happy just to be in the SPL. what kind of fikin statment is that to make when we play attacking football, a think you mean Dundee utd., Motherwell and St. Mirren. who bore the arse off even there own fans.
3
Where as Caley are a stubborn team that always seem to do just enough to stay in the division
=Now why would you tip Rangers to win at Inverness? Some thing they could not do last year, something to do with them now being your main rivals on the east coast as Dundee United are p*sh poor and will be again next year.

Now here’s how in will probably go and you will not get much of a price of a bookie for this

Top four in no particular order Celtic, Hearts, Rangers and Hibernian and the rest in no particular order, but it won’t matter as Gretna will go down and in this S**t Premier set up, it suits everybody bar Gretna.

On the entertainment side
lets hope The Edinburgh tarts, entertain us as much next season as they did last year, sorry the Jam tarts, with there off fie

Numbers 14 , 18 , 21 , and 22 , here goes .

Technically you're correct , I was wrong to say an entire end chanted .

If you were at the semi final, at Hampden , you'll realise it would have been more acccurate of me to say the majority of Hearts fans broke into Hello Hello etc during the minutes silence for the pope .

Do you all deny that it was , far and away , the worst minutes silence ever heard in the history of football ?

If any of you can point me in the direction of a minutes silence that was as badly observed I'd be interested to find out what it was .

If there weren't any other minutes silences , which I would doubt , in the rest of Scotland then I'd guess that the authorities were scared of the embarrassment the country would suffer , if their behaviour was similar to the Hearts fans antics , and it was shown worldwide .

Number 18 , you're right . the Hearts fans singing sectarian song during a minutes silence for the pope is " another case of the "best fans in the world" bringing religious bigitory the forefront of scottish football " !

Bucky ? I think it's a couple of acid tabs you've been on matey .

Scoop ( 21 ) and Robbo ( 22 ) , you both don't know me yet you have me down as a sympathiser of " the bi-weekly singing of pro-IRA songs by a majority of your lot? "

And also that " you are one who has been brainwashed to believe that singing about the IRA killing innocent people is ok? " !

For the record I hate it when Celtic supporters sing songs about the IRA , at away games , and I totally condemn it .

Sorry if I didn't live up to your stereotyping of me .

If you really believe that Hearts haven't a problem with bigotry , try this for size .

At the next Hearts V Celtic , or Celtic V Hearts game , listen closely and try to count how many times you here someone shouting " fenian b*st*rds .

Trust me ,