"It should be remembered that Rangers have not yet faced a top-five team in the SPL this season".

Perhaps it should be remembered that it was the lower-ranked teams Rangers struggled agaisnt last season.

Falkirk played some nice football so well done to them and hard luck. But then Rangers played a lot of exciting stuff too.

Damn.

That oh-so-cleverly named Teary Ennui beats me to it, and not for the first time.

Couldn't have said it better myself, though

(Meatloaf sang that, or Massimo Donati as he's known these days).

you took the words right out of my mouth, Teary.

Still, maybe Celtic can win this afternoon.

Two out of three ain't bad.

Season just started and Rags already thankful to Champions Celtic.
Falkirk still reeling from last weeks demolition job had yet to recover allowing SuperWellie to step in to pick the bones from the corpse.

Well it looks like its 12:36 AM in Scotland and Neurotic Numpty hasnt shown up yet.

Looks like the Canada Evening shift will chip in..

I think he waits til the wee hours of 3-4 AM searching the web for Rangers articles to try to degrade.Sad tho he wastes his entire life hating instead of enjoying..

Speaking of enjoying..I enjoyed all 7 goals and all septics excuses.

HAHAHAH>>
spoke to soon.....priceless.!

Great stats

Cousin Rangers 3
Ferguson Rangers 3
Higdon Falkirk 3
Darcheville Rangers 2
Zemmama Hibernian 2
Barr Gretna 1
Barrett Falkirk 1
Boyd Rangers 1
Broadfoot Rangers 1
Clarkson Motherwell 1
Corcoran St Mirren 1
Cowie Inverness CT 1
Dodds Kilmarnock 1
Driver Hearts 1
Fletcher Hibernian 1

There is some diddy club missing here.anyone know who it is?

seltic v dons today

an easy 2 goals aff the mhanks methinks

NN- That is priceless!!! Should you not be going on about the debt or dodgy deals or BWAHAHAHAH?

Good win and a very promising debut by Whittaker. The only down side is that this tanking is only going to expedite the day that Yogi drops his admirable tactics of trying to play creative football and revert to the SPL standard of putting up the shutters and hoping for the best when playing the OF. Shame.

#4 Gingivitis 65

Gingivitis is a disease of the mouth Ging.
So you have called yourself correct on that score well done.

However, 12.40 A.M. and you are already making an Mad (my erse)Vlad of yourself.

BbbwawahahaKAKhahaKaKha....

#9-That is the one thing that worries me about today. Falkirk were the one team who would come out and have a go at Rangers and Celtic and they have to be given credit for it. their style of football is a joy to watch and will definitely bring results against the rest. I just hope he persists against Rangers and Celtic as it has brought more rewards as evry others defensive tactics in the past.

Plus Yogi is bloody amusing at interview.

NN, don't you have any friends? You seem to spend an awful lot of your time on here venting your spleen over your chosen obsession. You must be rather unhappy.

Treat yourself to a holiday and start to go to pubs. Make friends and go places. Take up a hobby and not something that clearly puts you in a bad mood for the rest of your life.

Life's short. You've suffered enough. I forgive you for the stuff you've said.

Move on and fine some happiness. Time won't wait for you when you're stuck on here feeling bad. Go live a little.

Peace and best wishes,
Samuel

Sitting here next to a Forest fan who is crying while reading his Fanzone amidst all the moans about Colin Calderwood's negative, boring, tactics. Sack Calderwood is the opinion of the fans! I seem to remember groans from Falkirk fans not so long ago calling for Yogi's head to roll as he persisted in the team playing attacking open football instead of shutting up shop at Westfield for a point. Long may the cavalier stuff continue. 7 against may be a bit of a beating but at least Falkirk try to pass and go forward. If it is naive at times it is also entertaining. Gaun yersel' Yogi.

#4 Gingivitis follow followed immediately by #5 Gingivitis again.
What a hoot you are and in the Hootsman at that.
Whats it like makin an erse o yersel this early,nevertheless,

Well done and keep them coming...Guffaw guffaw arf arf arf...

BB - I hope he does persist with the approach against the other teams, after losing 11 goals in two games he's unlikely to be allowed to continue the approach against the OF.
Had Hearts not gone into self-destruct mode and Hibs not sold the family silver (admitttedly most of it to the OF!), we could have been starting the season with at least 5 teams who like to play a bit of footie. As it stands it looks like a two horse race....

FNZ-I don't think there's any doubt about it being a 2 horse race, even this early. I still think Falkirk will cause others all sorts of problems if they continue in this vein (as they did to both OF teams for long periods in the last 2 weeks). Have to say I was starting to get a bit twitchy at 3-2!

Whats it like makin an erse o yersel this early,nevertheless.
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erse of MYSELF?

PMSL..Its only 8:40 in the evening here in Canada yet you are madly typing away with toothpicks holding your red eyes open at 1:40 AM slavering on about a Rangers article .hehehe..sad boy

Next..

16 - what's the answr, then Hard Truth?

I must also wish NN all the best.You are forgiven my son. Run to the light now away from the darkness of ignorance and superstition( that seltic are actually good that is)

I would be careful what we ask for

SPL is not pretty but predictable CL slots for Rangers and the cloggers

I would rather stay in the SPL or be seeded in the EPL.Chances are tho if we ever did get Grouped south we would wind up in the Coca cola league or First Div...count yoorup out

#14 NN

"Whats it like makin an erse o yersel this early,nevertheless"

You should know you do it every morning!

#12 Chamois

This forum discusses football.

Do you support Champions Celtic for example.

That should be an easy one...you know,to get you in the swing of how it goes.Or at least how its intended that it should go.Generally speaking.

Oh C'mon Hard Truth....you're not actually Alex Salmond trying to provoke me into voting for independence are you?
Are you a Stafford Rangers supporter? So sorry for writing about Scottish Football in a scottish newspaper mate. Maybe I should write to a Hungarian paper instead....they taught Engerland what the game is all about didnt they?

23, we discuss Football.

you are like Roger Irrelevant on crack

OY-I think others are beginning to realise that. He has been frantically trying to get people to bite for weeks but is beginning to realise that everyone has already seen his garbage so many times that they are bored with it. Regurgitated cr$p is still cr$p.

Did you see I met up with an old friend of ours earlier today? He appears to be somewhat more subdued now!

#25

Oh yeh Oh yeh Oh yeh,The Town Crier(always greetin) and the Berkshire Berk.

Never been unemployed in my life.Told you that before you fool that you are.
I`m assuming the other descriptions are of yourself lookin in the Smoke `n Mirror.

Thats the device often used down Ibrox way afterall and we should not be surprised that you make use of their facilities.

#26
Gingivitis(disease of the gub).

Remember now.

Football.

#21 If we were grouped with Epl teams we would have the money that EPL teams have. So i don't think we would be struggling in the coca cola league.
In the premiership we might not be fighting for Euro places initially but we would after a few years.

#22 We dont care.

Psst,neither do we.

Don'cha love it. The Gers bang in a few against SPL also-rans and suddenly it's wee arra peepul and the mhankies are running scared.

Oh my aching sides.

Scoring seven against Falkirk is an excellent result – I will not decry it. But three came in injury time against a team that were 3-2 at Ibrox with 20 minutes to go and collapsed, a bit like last week where, of course, they were playing at home. But when we said Celtic could have scored 10, we were slaughtered as fantasists. Ah well…

Come 5pm next Saturday, with the Celts a point ahead and having played two of the top four as against the Thread Bears having played SPL detritus, a cold, numb feeling will sit in the pit of every Rangers fans' gut as cold realisation sets in.

Those of us who know a bit about the game can afford to sit and smile quietly and remember when John Barnes got off to the best start of any Celtic manager. Remember him, bears?

Enjoy it – it will be a cold, dim memory by Hallowe'en! You heard it first from PTH! Woohoo!

#30 Spider Pig

You say,"we would have the money EPL teams have".

In the meantime of course you have more to worry you by way of paying off the £18 million debt hanging round your clubs neck.
But dont tell Sir Wantaway he thinks his debt is ONLY £10-12million.

Never mind,he`s just the owner...thrrpp..thrrpp..ppffffff.

32 Pat - erm, not sure where you're seeing all the 'we arre peepul' posts here. We're into the mid-30's and most of the posts have been either been weak baiting by NN or others trying to shut him up.

And just to prove my point, the master-baiter strikes again before I can send my post......

I wonder why NN and Pat feel the need to post on this thread today.....?

#34 F NZ

Weak baiting?

Moi?

Could have been worse ,could have been accused of bear baiting.

#35 F NZ

No need.

Choice dear boy,freedom of choice.

NN - 38

"And just to prove my point, the master-baiter strikes again before I can send my post......"

"No need"....

Pardon?

#39 F NZ

My post #38 should have been directed at #36 not #35.
Thought you might have sussed that and therefore I just left it.
Future benefits of the doubt are now cancelled,in your case, forthwith.

40 NN - Sorry if I have disappointed you.....

NOT!!!

Bwaaaahhhhaaaakkkkbwahhahahah, etc

Whatever they want to say....

Rangers now have a defence, midfield and attack to be proud of.

Our closest competitors only have a midfield worthy of a mention, Donati is dud full stop, I feel sorry for Scotty Brown (Who I wwish we'd signed) as all hopes now rest on him.

Just remeber you wouldn't have reached the UEFA cup last season if Man U handed haded you a victory, Saha through on Boruc anyone?

Back to the game at hand....falkirk are a decent side this season and were ripped apart by probably one of the best displays I've seen for ages. Rangers are back on top and I personally can't see them being dislodged too soon by Septic or anyone else for that matter. Well done the Gers. Follow follow!

All of a sudden it is worth getting up at 2am to watch Rangers on broadband - what a change from last season.

Great debut from Whittaker, showed what a great buy he will turn out to be.

Great performance from Cousin who could turn out to be the buy of the season.

Credit to Falkirk for coming to Ibrox and playing some very nice football and the score if I'm honest was a bit flattering to us - because i hate to bring a negative comment to a 7-2 win. For long periods our midfield were completely outplayed - and its the one area i think we should 'strengthen' before the transfer window closes. IF we get to the CL better teams than Falkirk will have a field day.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, on the contrary, we scored 7 and could and should have scored more!

Things are looking good but we must stay quietly confident!

#44 Both Whittake and Cousin looked superb. Some of the Gers midfield players should get lessons from Cousin on how to pass the ball.......

Before we get carried away lets not forget that Falkirk, and credit to them, took the game to Rangers and dominated midfield for most of the first half at times making Rangers midfield look inept.

Second half Rangers fitness seemed to tell and Falkirk were over run.

The other plus point was Ranger clinical finishing - havent seen that down Govan way for a long time.

#32 "Those of us who know a bit about the game" .... oh my aching sides

Stan.... he does, his wife has been on the game for years

aye that NN is in a bad way.... can never make up my mind is he just a silly kid or an adult with nae life what so ever... would love to know more about him - look at the time... and I guess he's no overseas like most of the rest of us here

As a Bairn born and bread I watched the game in a room full of Rangers fans and a Boro boy. I watched last weeks game in the Celtic club in Baku. On both occassions at half time there were none too many happy faces and many a congratulatory word about our play. Unfortunatly that does not show on the league table. We have St Mirren at home next week, that is now a massive game for us. I am a football supporter and as such I enjoy watching Falkirk, a few wins would be nice as well.
PS, sad to see Gratna got a point.

Baku Bairn - you must be oilfield(?) Where do you go to watch the games?

No. 1 it should be remembered that WS has the Indian sign and a 100% record over WGS,normal service has been resumed,Rangers on top.

I hope you are too - Yogi's boys deserve to be top 6 minimum this year.

The usual inane garbage from nearlyneurotic and co. Facts are undeniable. Rangers have now played 3 SPL games and 3 CL ties. 6 wins, 16 goals for, 2 against. At any level this is good stuff. New signings such as Cousin, Whittaker and Darcheville are looking very good. And we still have Stevie Smith and Thomas Buffel to come back from injury. Rangers are going to be very, very hard to beat this season. Celtic fans continue to suffer from delusions about their team. Who says Spartak Moscow are better than Red Star? Are wel all experts on eastern European football all of a sudden? After today, Celtic will be languishing 5 points adrfit of Gers - and the first OF game of the season looms in the distance. Follow, follow!

For not being worried,there are a majority of celtic fans posting on a Rangers thread.

Well said Hairy Minge. That's all they ever do as they have very little to say on their own threads. They are clearly neurotic and paranoid, rolled into one and with good cause now! Jealous of the greatest club side ever. Oh, I forgot Celtic won the EC 40 years ago. Other notable sides with one EC win to their name include....Red Star.

Really enjoyed the match, and Falkirk deserve praise for playing football and doing their bit to make a spectacle. I am not being patronising. I think they are a very good footballing and passing team , and John Hughes is an excellent Manager. How does we Latapy do it? 96 years old, 400 fags a day ( and I wouldn't be surprised to hear 3 bottles of rum as well ) and he can still cut it. Funnily enough, Falkirk did not deserve to lose by such a margin, but Rangers could have scored a lot more (I know that sounds contradictory but anyone who was there will know what I mean). Well done Rangers, I just hope they can keep it up, especially against the cloggers, hammer throwers and tri-athletes that Scottish football consists mainly of these days.
by the way lads, ignore that half- wit (exaggerating his wit by a factor of about 500), Nearly Normal (exaggerating his normality by about the same)- by responding to his inane Sh**e, you are only feeding his delusions.

#55

Again we have to educate the unfortunate in society!

Take a look at a Celtic thread, it's mainly Rangers fans on it?

THIS IS A FOOTBALL FORUM, FANS FROM ALL CLUBS CAN POST AND DEBATE ON ANY THREAD.

Get it?

Now, if you want to have an exclusive Rangers only forum, go start your own web site for just that.

Well done Rangers, great to read that we have goal scorers from every department, Walter & Ally have done a great job, it will be a interesting league this year and that's what we want, NN if you don't have anything positive to say, stay of the comments and only write on Celtic performance.

Follow Follow

#42

We didn't, so don't worry.

Ps. Giggs diving for a penalty!

Anyone!

#nearlyneurotic, "Where`dTheRagsFanzGoDave..15,000ofThem!! / 3:25pm 17 Aug 2007 Big Yogi`s men if they play as well as they did against The Champions last week should come away from this one with at least the draw.

They were the better team in the Alex Totten game drawing 1-1.

But don`t forget without undue influence by the referee and his assistants it could have been a clear cut victory for Fawkirk.
Big Higdon`s clean through,inside the box ready to pull the trigger when...WHooooomfff...he`s halfed in two by Papac and neither the ref OR his assistants seen it would you believe.

Their fair share of fair decision making by match day officials tomorrow will do their teamwork and hard graft the credit they deserve.

It will also ensure that they are taking part on a level playing. "

Sometimes we all make mistakes!!

An excellent performance from Rangers.

Another one in No.58,who deems to be superior,personally I think all of these celtic fans posting here are closet Rangers fans,as I said previously,normal service has been resumed,Rangers on top.

"Big Higdon`s clean through,inside the box ready to pull the trigger when...WHooooomfff...he`s halfed in two by Papac and neither the ref OR his assistants seen it would you believe." (61)

I never saw that one either and I was at the game. Are you sure you didn't imagine it? Wildly exaggerate and distort it?

I did see two good penalty claims for Rangers though, when Novo was brought down and Boyd was pushed.

Guys, guys guys.

You really should listen to NothingNew, he isn't lying when he says he has never been unemployed. \there's plenty of work for night watchment these days. That's the only reason he is around in the wee small hours.

Has anybody seen our defence?
If it's goals you want follow Falkirk, 18 goals in 3 games ahhhhhhhhhhhhh

Fawkirk = Expect the unexpected

Well done Rangers - good result. Looking forward to the first Old Firm now. I suppose it's just coincidence it's at Ibrox, just like it's coincidence that Rangers have the easiest set of starting fixtures in the SPL. But I don't want to discuss that.

The challenge is welcome. Rangers are looking good. So are Celtic. Only time will tell who is the better team this season. In the meantime let's try and keep personal attacks on each other to a minimum.

#63 Hairy T***

"Normal service has been resumed"? Staggering.

why do rangers fans continue to moan "why do celtic fans post on rangers threads ??? they hate us more than they love their own team etc etc"when there are plenty of rangers fans who rightly enjoy the wind up on celtic threads..get over it guys and enjoy the banter...x
and as ive said its more fun on rangers threads just now..in the background the sectarian singing the investigation..the raid..the 60% increasing debt in 2 days ..the "wigan like" optimism..you gotta laugh x

#69

Good post. Bemused Exile is one of the biggest complainers about this but is actually one of the worst "offenders"! Anyway, apart from being a public forum this thread is not exclusive to Rankers, there were two teams involved. Arrogance.

sonofcosmos - I'll be laughing more if we come away with 3 more victories by the end of this month!

Celtic have really had about the hardest start they could imagine this season. If we come out the other end unscathed we will have done magnificently. I'm sure most Rangers fans realise this. My own bluenosed friends certainly aren't afraid to agree with me on that point.

Greengoblin

Paranoia that the opening fixtures were "fixed" in Gers favour? ha ha ha ha, funny

#72 dougie..fixed or not..do you disagree rangers have the easiest opening run of fixtures ??
ps its rhetorical dougie we know the answer x

sonofcosmos

I think it is hilarious that it has been brought up!

Dougie D - funny for you maybe.

#74 so you dont think it matters that your main rivals have an easier start to the season..???
i would have thought its a perfectly legitimate point on a football forum...again a bit like the "are spartak better than red star " debate..again we know thew answer and i could say i think its hilarious that has been brought up...but it is a football related issue...is it fair to talk about rangers "wigan like" opptimism ???

From the article:

'It should be remembered that Rangers have not yet faced a top-five team in the SPL this season.'

- this point is being ignored by many Rangers fans...

'But they're a growing force, no doubt about it'

- not difficult to improve on the last couple of years. Bring it on!

Gretna are also a growing force. Are we scared?

You are like big weans, your team got a better set of opening fixtures than us, blah, blah, blah

Points need to be on the board and that is what we have done. Last season we would have folded under Le Guen if Falkirk had pulled it back to 3-2.

Still at least at Pittodrie today, they will fold as usual and Celtic will probably score about 4 or 5

Certainly sounds like it 78,you can't beat a good dose of paranoia,or in your case the paranormal.

#80
try talking about football

#79..dougie i dont mind being childish on a football forum when it comes to winding up our rivals fans..its better than being offensive..
i do laugh at you being a big grown up and giving me a row for pointing out trhe easier fixtures that rangers have at the start of the season..and then you rather childishly fall back on the old aberdeen only try against rangers mode...very childish...if it helps have a look at how many points aberdeen have taken off rangers and celtic over the last 7 years when celtic haver been the dominant team...but hey as you guys accuse us celtic fans .why let the truth stand in the way of a good story...

Are there really no Rangers fans out there prepared to admit that Rangers have an easy couple of months start, and Celtic a nightmare set of fixtures???

Come on, be big boys. I'm not criticising Rangers, or anybody on here, so try and not get personal.

Fixture list or not, you can only play what is put in front of you and the fact is Rangers have won them.
I commented on the fixture list before the season started with regards to Rangers saying if they won these games confidence would be high and they would be in with a shout of keeping in front up and until the first OF game of the season, So far the most disappointing thing is Hearts have now fallen well behind after only three games.
But on a serious note the most amazing thing is Media 1, has not posted here yet.
But sources close to his home town say he is going into hospital soon, as all his bowel movements are coming through his head.
Get well soon Media 1.

#80 & #81 with your user names i do hope you're young guys..if you are dont worry what seems funny at that age will look suitably embarressing years later x

sonofcosmos

Giving you a row? I stated my opinion mate, that's all.

greengoblin

Yes, I will admit that we have had the easier fixtures but it is damn paranoia to suggest that it was set-up

#87
I did not suggest it was set-up. I merely questioned whether or not it was coincidence.
If it is coincidence then Rangers are one lucky team this year.

PS- Are the police investigating Rangers for fraud just paranoid too?

Greengoblin

Why question if it is a coincidence then?

dougie .have you worked out the points lost by celtic and rangers to aberdeen over the last 7 years ??
in your opinion who will have lost the most ??

Greengoblin

We are being investigated but you seem to be not wanting to talk about the Gers on the field and trying to pull out anything negative about the club

It is naive to think that a certain amount of fixing and dodgy business does not go on in the football world.
It happens all the time - here in Spain they are actually quite open about it. But then they don't have a sectarian problem like us, do they?

sonofcosmos

No I haven't, why?

in fairness dougie your teams easier start has allowed for the fans "wigan like" optimism which is pretty funny..in my opinion x

Greengoblin

No, ETA just blow up people for a laugh...

OK - Gers on the field.
Strong, bullying team. Lacking in flair. Look good against wee teams but yet to be tested.

sonofcosmos

Fair enough, we are all entitled to our opinions. I look forward to the first OF game of the season, then maybe we can have valid weight for our opinions

Greengoblin

What is your assessment of Celtic on the field then this season?

Dougie D - you're good at ignoring the point aren't you?
(rhetorical question by the way)

What point is that greengoblin?

71 if you had been given the choice you would have picked Kilmarnock at home on opening day so what are you talking about?

OK - Celtic on the field this season....

Fast passing, great variety of tactical options. Plenty of flair. Lacking in strong, bullying players.

Quite the opposite of Rangers really. One of the reasons I can't wait till the first Old Firm.

Dougie D: 'What point is that greengoblin?'

I rest my case....

97 scoring seven goals is lacking in flair.

Greengoblin

I believe you may be watching the footy with green-tintes specs on......?

And by the amount of stick WGS has been taking from some of your fellow fans recently, I get the impression you are of a minority who think things are going well

So Dougie D, I have obliged you with answers to your request and you have duly criticised my answers.

How about telling me YOUR assesments of Celtic and Rangers on the park this season so far.

Greengoblin

I ain't criticising you answers, I wouldn't be so disrespectful, like yourself I am stating my opinion.

Celtic - still to move up a gear, think you may still need a striker and defender. Finding the main goalscorer in your team is the problem at the moment.

Gers - playing well, still plenty more to come and very happy with our depth of squad. Would still like another player in before tranfser window closes

Celtic couldn't win at home to Kilmarnock. Is that to be blamed on the the big bad SPL giving them a "nightmare start"?

They then had a comfortable win against Falkirk - another part of the "nightmare start" imposed on the poor wee lambs?

Pittodrie is generally a tough place to go, but it might not be a bad time to face Aberdeen as they've not made a great start to the season.

Stop whingeing and implying there's some sort of conspiracy against your team. It's embarrassing.

103 lacking in strong bullying players is not a good thing in the Scottish or any other league and if Strachan doesn't do something about it he will be in trouble. Oh and you need a forward line as well.

Who is the main goalscorer at Rangers at the moment?

#110

I fear you could be right - for the SPL anyway.

dubai...so you dont think rangers have an eaier opening 6 games ??

Take your pick, Ferguson, Cousin and now Darcheville has managed to get a couple but by the end of the campaign, Boyd will be top as usual

Ferguson - not going to be your main goalscorer.
Darcheville - bound to get injured a lot.
Boyd/Cousin - probably your best 2 up front, although we haven't seen much of Cousin yet.

Greengoblin

"Darcheville - bound to get injured a lot" - surely inconclusive speculation?

what other kind of speculation do you get?

There you go again 89,making up stories casting aspersions,at no time has it ever been stated that Rangers are being investigated for any criminal offences.But why let the facts get in the way of a nice bit of paranormal out of your box speculation.

#118

Do you read the papers?

Goblin, The reason the old firm game is at Ibrox first this season is that it was a parkhead first last season. That's always been the way as long I can remember it.

As for the other fixtures, rangers dropped more points to those teams last year than we did against the top 5 so you could argue this was a difficult start for us.

Crvena Zvezda return match will tell us the progress SuperWellie and JesterCoist have made.

The European nights strip away all the hoohaha from Murrays laptopmeejaloyalz and present us with the bear facts[no pun intended].
Check out Champions Celtics result mid week, for example.

Crvena Zvezda are by their own admission far from the team that were previously known as Red Star.

However Crvena believe themselves that they hold too much in reserve for Smiths rag,tag and bob tailers to deal with.
Their coach Milorad Kosanovic believes his side will go through branding the Rags goal as,"lucky".
Kosanovic criticised his teams lack of concentration for the 90 minutes.
He has given his assurance that wont happen in the Belgrade return next week.

Incidentally of the 1000 tickets allocated to Ragz, will those fanz be follow following the advice of Jim (mutually agreed out the door) Templeton or David (sorry to see him go....thrrpp..ppffff) Edgar .

Obviously a bit better than you do 119,have you always been thick or just born that way.

Aberdeen 1 Celtic 4

113 I don't really think you can predict which games are going to be easy at this stage of the season. But given that neither Rangers or Celtic play each other or hearts or Hibs in the first few games you could argue that both are getting a reasonably easy start. However based on last years results the last thing Rangers wanted on day one was to go to Inverness and if Celtic were given the choice they would have picked Kilmarnock at home. And both Rangers and Celtic have played Falkirk so no I dont really think there is a much difference.

90 minutes is a long time in football, When with 75 minutes played you are competing and looking good, this is the area that John Hughes has to tackle at the moment, and why the defence goes to sleep in the last 15 minutes, it’s a strange one, is it fitness or is it the heads going down with that goal going in that knocks the fight out you and the last fifteen are just too much for you to handle and you want to be out of there. Russell is aging so we cannot expect him to give his all for 90 minutes but there is question marks about some of the others in the side who over the last two weeks who have shown flaws in there make up at this level, Falkirk have a few youngsters on the field and on the bench, but it is asking a bit much for these guys to be pulling us threw a rough patch while seasoned professionals on the park are found wanting when the going gets tough. A think now John Hughes needs to address the problem head on and decide to move into the transfer market for more experienced players to help the youngsters threw the rough patches during the games, The question hanging over us at the moment is, do we continue to play the way the game should be played or shut up shop and hope to grab an away point. Am in favoured of the way we are playing at present and am prepared to take the defeats even though how hard it was to take yesterday and last week, rather than go out and sit with 10 men behind the ball. Not only would that be frustrating for the opposition to break down but it would be bloody frustrating to watch. Am of the opinion the vast majority of the Falkirk support will rally behind John Hughes to continue playing the same type of football for the rest of the season. So it’s down to the Board to release some funds for Hughes to find a couple of experienced men to shore up the side when the going gets tough.

115 seen cousin scoring three already.

117 informed and based on research

#122

Can you explain to me what the police were doing rummaging around Ibrox recently then?

Try and avoid any personally offensive remarks please.

#124

Aberdeen away today, Hearts next week. And we had to play Falkirk away - a small difference.

You are right about Kilmarnock though. So much for 'Magic' Zurawski...

im afaid if you think these starts are the same i worry about your objectivity...
celtic
kilmarnock (h)
falkirk (a)
aberdeen (a)
hearts (h)
st mirren (a)

rangers
ict (a)
st mirren (h)
falkirk (h)
kilmarnock (a)
gretna (h)

i make that we will play 3 top 6 teams 2 away and rangers will have played 1.. mmm

im afaid if you think these starts are the same i worry about your objectivity...
celtic
kilmarnock (h)
falkirk (a)
aberdeen (a)
hearts (h)
st mirren (a)

rangers
ict (a)
st mirren (h)
falkirk (h)
kilmarnock (a)
gretna (h)

i make that we will play 3 top 6 teams 2 away and rangers will have played 1.. mmm

oops 2 at home sorry x

MOPEs true to form the only reason the Regal ones are clear top of the league, best scoring, best defensive and most lauded peformances are not through players,management and skill. No its because wait for it a "Conspiracy". Would you believe it. Celtic get an opening day flag raising celebratory festival whilst the Bears have to travel to IC (who smashed us home and away last season) and we have the easier opening. It was the first day test and "tipping point" which is the reason the title is already wrapped up and closed, indeed as i stated yesterday;
PaddyPowderpuffs are promising to pay out on Rangers winning the league tommorrow night if the MOPEs loose. Spokesman SeamusOsameold was quoted as saying "We might as well the Blue Chippers deffo play on the other side of the City, the pish WaGS plays has us beaten. We are really feeling sorry for ourselfs so we do".
If ever the Dons were needed to pretend that the Pee-tic were the Bears its today. I think Ill stay where I am and possibly collect me winnings and fell good about maself, so I will.

130 you asked me what I thought and I told you. Frankly if Celtic fans are genuinely worried about who they have to play first in the league it is a clear indication of a deeper problem. Drawing with Kilmarnock on opening day was a howler of a result and if you are honest you would have been hoping/ expecting a possible Rangers slip up at Inverness. I am not worried who Rangers play at the moment since they are clearly much improved from last year At the same time I don't see any real improvement in the Celtic team and I think you lost your most influential player when Lennon left.

#132

Rangers have played well enough, but have yet to be really tested and have the easier fixtures for about the first 2 months.

Whether you think this is a conspiracy or not, these are the facts. Also the very reason no bookies will be paying out anything to anyone for a long, long time.

By about January we will have a better comparison of the two teams.

funnily enough boke..if you look at goals against column in the league table you will see that celtic have lost less goals...and it is a matter of fact that rangers have on paper an easier start to the season..you seem to think it is some sort of conspiracy..are you paranoid...mmmm i suppose with the chasnting investigation..the police raids ..the 60% increase in your clubs debt in 2 days you have alot to be paranoid about.. bless x

PS- Are the police investigating Rangers for fraud just paranoid too? that was your post 128,that implies you are well placed and know things about this case that the majority do not,so perhaps you will clarify exactly ,who is being investigated and for what and who are assisting the police with any relevant information.

#133 dubai..as your not able to see the difference in the opening few fixtures im glad you cant see any real improvement in this celtic team...it was after cuffing hearts 2-0 at ibrox after the 3rd game last season that optimism was high amongst rangers fans..now this year it has reached wiganesque proportions x
but like most things football all will soon be revealled..one thing for sure..when we make it 3 in a row it will be because your team are poor..but if rangers were to win it it will be because walter is a genius x

135 I don't think that the phrases "it is a matter of fact" and "on paper" can really be in the same sentence. the truth is that nobody really knows at this stage who is going to be the strongest although the signs are there that Rangers are much improved.

133, they have to rely on us slipping up to the minows cos deep down they are bricking it about the overall outcome of the 4 OF matches

time will tell, Walter has a very big indians foot over celtic, infact if they want to win they'd better be down in 4th spot when they generally did better in the past!! of course we're happy for them to be 4th any time

dubai..its a football forum where fact fiction opinion all come together ..and as i suggest come may 2008 all will be revealled ..but the signs are there that celtic..from a position of strength are also stronger this season x

#135 Thank you for the blessing sonofa...... Ill take them where I can get them. Im mystified as to how the MOPEs can turn my reporting and interpretation of their ramblings as my Conspiracy. I never in a million cosmic light years thought there was a conspiracy. I was blessed to be at Royal Towers last year and see, Hibs torn apart (Brown put firmly in his place) Hearts humbled, Utd shredded, The Dons asswiped and the Pee-tics.... do you really want to reopen festering wounds. Now we are stronger, meaner, faster and crammed top to bottom with blue blooded, dyed in the wool Rangers supporters (hey just like the Pee-tics), we cannot wait for the so called biggies to arrive at the meat grinder. Bless U 2 my son!

137 I thought we were discussing this year. Where do you think Celtic have strengthened? They have the same forward line as last year when they struggled to score. I find it incredible that Strachan hasn't done anything about this. You have brought in a couple of decent midfield players but not addressed the lack of a leader to replace Lennon. Defence wise I think the jury is still out. McManus and Kennedy could become greats but not just yet. No cover really in the other positions. More worrying for Celtic will be the baggage they have. Gravesen who clearly doesn't plan on going anywhere and ditto with Balde.

140 what signs? I am genuinely interested. If you ignore the rhetoric I simply cant see where Celtic have got stronger. Seems to me to be pretty much the same team with the addition of Brown and Donati and a couple of lower league forwards in Killen and Macdonald when Celtic were crying out for a top proven striker. I use my misguided Celtic supporting brother as my barometer in all things Celtic and I can tell you he is spitting blood about Strachan's inaction.

This is starting to get really boring now.

Just to appease the bluenoses:

Rangers are brilliant. Celtic are terrible. Rangers will win everything this year. David Murray is doing a great job.

; )

adios amigos

Were any of the Rangers fans on this forum partly responsible for the 15000 boycott that took place in Rangers all important European game against Crvena Zvezda?
£300,000 that cost David Murray.

Were Rangers F.C. not entitled to expect a packed full house.

#142 Spot on. Indeed where are all the "truly Blue chip signings" promised by the messiah like PeteyL. The truth of the matter which sticks in the craw of all the old school MOPEs is that WaGS has crammed the holy turf with Blues wanabees (Brown, Brown, Elvis, Killen, Miller etc.) instead of Emerald Isle emotionalists of yester year. "No one wants to play on their side of the Titty" a quote of stupendous significance and a kick in the balls to all MOPEs. This is the single most contributing factor as to why WaGS will never be accepted by the hard core MOPE (which is the majority of the "feel sorry fur myself", brigade) and will be out the door straight after Powderpuffs pay out to me this afternoon. (hopefully)

Where were the Ibrox truest and bluest nos surrenderos legions when their club expected their full support?

dubai...a footie discussion !! good on us !!
i actually agree with some of your points..kennedy and mcmanus can be celtic greats..and time will tell..we have brought in better midfield players..so i agree there as well.
lennons leadership missing is one im 50/50 about..but as a player he was done last season..
you ignore that celtics forward line is not the same as last year scott macdonald was 2nd or 3rd top scorer in the spl last season..and killen scored around 12 goals in 15 games for hibs..so i think we will be stronger there as well..

again .time will tell.but i am still very confident of 3 in a row...although it might go to easter this year x

Sonofcosmos

Looking at the fixtures you do have a valued point but you would have to say the worst case for Celtic would be to drop 4 points where Rangers on their fixtures would be 2 points. Fixtures even out throughout the season so what’s the difference when you play the other sides? You still have to beat them to win the league. The Celtic support gripe when they win without a real challenge, but have a fear of Rangers when things are tight on a run in as Celtic sides are more likely to bottle it or fall to the underdogs, this is borne out by historical fact and the amount of finals they have lost to the so called smaller clubs is in the history books, take the amount of league cup finals you have lost for reference or titles they have thrown away when things go down to close contest, as these seem to go in Rangers favour and if a remember right even Dundee united went to Celtic park and won 3-0 in another tight league contest. The only time I can remember Celtic winning one of these must win games was when Billy McNeil was manager 4-2 against Rangers. Am beginning to think some of the Celtic supports on these boards do have a real fear of Rangers this season and this fixture list thing is a poor excuse for coming out and saying you really do think Rangers are a real challenge to your dominance in Scotland.

There you go,ask greennoblin to back up his statements about Rangers,and he does a runner,post 136.

147 you are such a non entity.

144 A response of truly childlike proportions. Its ma baw and I 'm not playing anymore. You have to laugh

jock..you bring back memories..dundee utd won 3-2 and i think had richard gough sent off...it did cost celtic the league .but it is a match ill always remember..( i dragged my now wife to it and it was her first..game of football and although she hates football even she got caught up in that match..)

of course the fixture list evens out..the point being made is that rangers having a good start with these fixtures is hardly a suprise...but it has made their fans go all "wigan" which is nice..x

35,000 Ragz fanz bother to show up in the clubs most important game of their season out of a possible 51,000+.

Even yesterdays game mustered 4000 fanz short of the Ibrox capacity.

Where`dThe RagzFanzGoDave ?

148 I did mention Macdonald and Killen. I just think that if there was a case for throwing big money at a problem it would have been to buy a top notch striker. i would have burst the bank and went after somebody like Alan Smith or maybe a top French striker like Cousin or Darcheville :)

149, good point....... Raith Rovers, Partick Thistle, Hibs, Dundee all took League Cups which they should not have.

As a long time bears man I have good memories of celtic bottling it...... Super Caley X2, motherwell in the cup semi several years ago, Airdrie, Falkirk (twice?) have done then in the past 20 years too. 2 leagues thrown away at the death. and as you say only that 4-2 under Greig did they show any gonads... time after time in 9 in a row period they slipped up... blame Goram!

Long may it continue..

Right am off to watch the games on the telly, Won't need a brooly the day. Celtic to win me thinks.

We have a steeple. You Gers fans at the game yeasterday should get that one.

neurotic, Celtic fans didn't fill Parkhead on the opening day of the season, when the league flag was hoisted. Where did those Yahoos go?

We know that there has been well documented and proposals discussed in improving the facilities at Ibrox.
We also know that Sir Wantaway will not be a major backer of those whilst he makes good his getaway.
I doubt that any new suitor would dream of expanding the capacity of a stadium when in all important fixtures they cannot fill every seat currently available.
Improve facilities..maybe
Increase the capacity..nah.
Just a plain silly billy boyz idea that one.

#157
thewelshsheepshagger hahahaha

Translate into your Queens English please.
Your lady will not be amused at you.

Remember the string for your wellies.

Wellies ya muppet not Wallies!

153: Rangers have an easier start but last season we struggled against the bottom six teams. So This is an improvement ! Last year we would have been a lot closer without the curse of Inverness!
Just as long as Sellick fans don't go on about a conspiracy being the reason for the Rangers easier start.
That would be rubbish ( You do like your kisses) x

I-mac #159 Is that true?
NN: don't you get tired of having so much negativity ?

It's Groundhog Day.

nn is still on yesterday's rant about Rangers "4000 missing fans"

I'll keep it simple.

47 to 48,000 is normal for visits by clubs such as Falkirk. It's similar to what we've been getting for these type of fixtures for the last few seasons.

There are 2 straightforward reasons why these games don't fill Ibrox.

Firstly, there are a small percentage of fans who, for good reasons, such as work commitments, financial limitations etc, choose their games carefully and are more likely to show up for the bigger matches, ie, Celtic, Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs etc.

Secondly, Rangers are obliged to provide a section of Ibrox for visiting fans. Teams like Falkirk don't fill that section, thus lowering the overall attendance.

What a non-issue.

The point being made Spider, is that with the fixture start Rangers have, there was always the possibility Rangers would get off to a good start, when you consider 4 of last seasons top 5 have been pitched against each other within the first 4 games.

Rangers, we all know will hit a run of games against the top 6 teams from last season, but your start should be tempered in light of the early fixture list, which if your honest has been pretty soft.

Killie away might be a good test next week for Rangers.

First things first ... Falkirk are a very decent team. They play football and they move the ball about well. Yesterday, they only actually breached the Rangers defence 3 or 4 times and they scored twice off of that. They have been unlucky in playing both Rangers and Celtic in the first 3 games. I expect them to be top 6 this season.

Now to Rangers ... again, the Rangers defence played very well. But the midfield much less so. In the first half they sat far too deep forcing Cousin to come deep and leaving the technically challenged Novo on his own up front. The good news for Rangers is that Whittaker looks like a real find and Cousin is big and mobile. He holds the ball up well, can run at defenders and isn't scared to shoot. If Ferguson had been playing just behind the attack he would have got on the end of some of Cousin's lay-offs and would have claimed a couple of goals.

The bad news for the rest of the SPL is that the Rangers attack is still a work in progress. When Smith gets that one right they will be very dangerous.

#165

"Killie away might be a good test next week for Rangers"

Why the "might"?

The team who drew at CP on opening day and have followed up with 2 wins.

The team who won at Ibrox at the end of last season.

Killie WILL be a good test, particularly as Rangers will have one eye on the trip to Belgrade that follows. And that will be no less true, even if Rangers win comfortably. That would just mean that they'd passed the test.

Or maybe you want to hedge your bets, so that if and when Rangers win the game, you can come back and say that Killie weren't a good test after all.

You wouldn't want to end up like one or two of your virtual mates who ended up with a large helping of egg on their face after predicting that Falkirk would leave Ibrox with at least a point now, would you?

Well done Rangers - good result. Looking forward to the first Old Firm now. I suppose it's just coincidence it's at Ibrox, just like it's coincidence that Rangers have the easiest set of starting fixtures in the SPL. But I don't want to discuss that.
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PMSL..septic never fail to provide ample fodder for derision.The subtle excuses pre packaged and delivered on time.

35,000 Ragz fanz bother to show up in the clubs most important game of their season out of a possible 51,000+.

Even yesterdays game mustered 4000 fanz short of the Ibrox capacity.

Where`dThe RagzFanzGoDave ?
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at least 35000 have well paying full time jobs they cannot up and leave from midweek unlike the nou tramp mob

#168 ... the first OF game last season was at Celtic Park.

By the end of the season, I confidently predict that both Rangers and Celtic will have played ALL the other SPL teams several times.

# 167

....and if Rangers lose or draw the game? What then?

Acceptance maybe, that the start Rangers have had is more to do with the early soft fixtures than what some Rangers fans might want us all to believe?

Rangers losing or drawing the game would make no difference to the point, which is that the Kilmarnock game WILL be a test.

In fact, it would just provide further evidence of the fact.

171 ICT at Inverness is a soft fixture. Kilmarnock at Parkhead is a difficult one? This really stretches the imagination. Rangers scored 7 yesterday. Is than an indication of a better team or something to do with fixture arrangement?

8 minutes gone and Aberdeen have had 64% of possession and 3 corners. But since this is a "hard" fixture for Celtic this is only to be expected.

Dubai

8 minutes gone at 2.13pm, what did it take you 5 minutes to type that big man?

I don't cheer many Aberdeen goals, but.....

good old Aberdeen. Got the goal their play deserved. Hope they make it 2 or 3.

175 In Lagos Nigeria. Must be a time warp. :)

Brewster too...... just shows all your fancy foreign signings and the old guy does it!

http://www.sportinglife.com/football/live_match/159652.html

enjoy...

177, 1-0 will do me fine...... don't want the dons get too much confidence...

where that ass NN...... bricking it.... feeling all tense eh... 1-0 - still only 50 minutes plus some generous stoppage time to go.... enjoy

no looking good for Man. U either...... only spent about 50 mill too... Fergie takes it all too serious... bet ya Sven is nipping some young things tonight and thoroughly enjoying himself in general! thats the way

#nearlyneurotic, "Where`dTheRagsFanzGoDave..15,000ofThem!! / 3:25pm 17 Aug 2007 Big Yogi`s men if they play as well as they did against The Champions last week should come away from this one with at least the draw.

They were the better team in the Alex Totten game drawing 1-1.

But don`t forget without undue influence by the referee and his assistants it could have been a clear cut victory for Fawkirk.
Big Higdon`s clean through,inside the box ready to pull the trigger when...WHooooomfff...he`s halfed in two by Papac and neither the ref OR his assistants seen it would you believe.

Their fair share of fair decision making by match day officials tomorrow will do their teamwork and hard graft the credit they deserve.

It will also ensure that they are taking part on a level playing."

We all make mistakes!!

7-2 ? ?

What the f@ck? That is crazy, this Rangers team are in another league to the rest of us. Give them the trophy now, its over

1-3

well done Celtic!

Are you cheering now BEMUSED EXILE??

well done celtic......looks like you were 2nd best most of the game but u scored and the dons couldn't!!

Doubt we'll see many more posts on this page today...

thewelshhahaha

You obviously weren't watching the game.

3 points at Pittrodrie versus 3 points at home to Falkirk.

Guess who is happiest with the weekend?

suddenly all is silent...

greengoblin

We all know Kenny Miller is never going to be a clinical finisher but i wonder if we could devise a system to utilise his pace and obvious 110% give all workrate.

What you think?

Unlike many on these threads, I'm more than happy to give credit where credit's due.

A good comeback victory for Celtic, particularly given their midweek exertions.

It is very clear that they will not surrender their title easily, and Rangers will have to earn it the hard way.

That's fine with me, it's the way that it should be, and I'm not particularly disappointed with this result.

There are two contrasting scenarios. In the first, Rangers push Celtic hard for the title (my personal expectation), and the rest are left far behind.

The alternative is that Rangers are left scrapping for second place again with Celtic dominating from the front. In this case I would expect Hearts and Aberdeen to be the threats.

Yet already we are on 9 points, with Hearts stuck on 2 and Aberdeen on 1, despite both teams having played 2 home games.

I'm happy to report that Rangers appear to have removed this danger already.

No disrespect to Hibs or Kilmarnock either, both of whom have impressed with their early form.

But it already looks like a 2-horse race to me.

Well done Celtic, and let's bring it on.

I'd love to see Miller play alongside with McDonald

hey Greengoblin is back. Tantrum over for the day? Well done Kenny Miller. Golden Boot material.

Strange, many bears on posting after the final whistle yesterday......but today not quite the same enthusiasm for the craic.

BE - 'I'm not particularly disappointed with this result'

hahahahahahahahahaha

Bemused

It was only ever going to be a 2 horse race as no other club has the quality or depth of either CFC or RFC.

194 I would love to see Miller playing alongside McDonald as well.

Doesn't matter much to me if you don't believe me, greengoblin.

You don't come across as someone particularly worthy of debating with anyway.

I've made my statement, and explained why.

You don't believe it?

I'll try not to be hurt.

#192 Are you delusional. Millers last was a coup de gra and a suberb goal as the dons pressed for an equaliser. The Dons were by far the better team. If they had taken their clean cuts then they would have won 5-4. They had a blatant penalty turned down and were kicked off the park by a stupified Pee-tic side lacking in any kind of technical connection. With McGediddy, Muckamanure the Pee-tics are two players down before a ball is kicked. Fatty Donnati had one involvement in the game and is worshipped (that tells you something) and bears dyed-hard Brown is anony-mouse. Not like Whiskers yesterday. I think Rangers have 4.5 million reasons to say thank you on missing out on him. Pee-tic pish!

196 there is only you and Greengoblin. Hardly a crowd. Anyway I am off for my tea. But I will leave you sound in the knowledge that with half and hour to go you would have settled for a point.

Good win for both Glasgow clubs this weekend so no real bragging rights available.

RFC scored 7 goals albeit against Falkirk at home and Celtic earned 3 points away from home at Aberdeen.

200 the boke

"#192 Are you delusional."

Could you be a bit more specific.

Anyway i may be 'delusional' but how old are you?

Pee-tic side
With McGediddy
Muckamanure
Fatty Donnati
bears dyed-hard Brown is anony-mouse.
Pee-tic pish!

That crap may be fitting in a bar pissed on a Friday amongst yer ain folk but c'mon we are adults trying to discuss football so please grow up.

Got your dummy back then greenknoblin,who's top of the league and stayin there.

#202 Every time the Regal ones visit Pitts-vile its a sell out. Today half the Dons sections were empty, nobody wants to turn up and watch the Pee-tics and their turgid, kick you insipid fitba. Indeed if we are going by the book anyone for points deducted and fines for the clearly audible "Add ons"? Nah thought so! If your going to make an example of someone make it the biggest target. The pre- immence Royal Bears. I keep saying it if you look up last years best away support average it was of course Rangers. The lowest away average support, you guessed it, the Manks!(out of 12 teams) Maybe the Pee-tics will beat Gretna on that score this season.

UDR4

Do you ever contribute anything remotely football connected on this forum?

Did those guys ever get released?

BE- 'You don't come across as someone particularly worthy of debating with anyway'

So why have you been arguing with me for the last 2 days?

Away and study yer songbook

#205 I was only following #195 instructions and wallowing in the "Craick". After all its the Pee-tics and their "ginger minge" supporters who give me the ammo.
What about the disgraceful WaGS turfed to the dressing room once again. I suppose he is only lowering himself to the level of his employers. He will get off scot free of course, no conspiracy there then, no requests to the general public for a complaint so it can be passed to the fiscal (nobody there anyway as they all wear green and white and were singing in the away supporters)

207 the boke

"I keep saying it if you look up last years best away support average it was of course Rangers. The lowest away average support, you guessed it, the Manks!(out of 12 teams)2

Any link to confirm the above cos im 110% sure you are talking through a hole in yer a**

210 now don't go in the huff again. try and avoid the blue smarties. thats what causes the problems with my kids.

211 giving every grown adult the boke

Once again!

the boke

"#192 Are you delusional."

Could you be a bit more specific.

Your kids problems don't concern me I'm afraid.
Nothing personal.

Where's the argument?

You goaded me at #186, and tried again at #197.

For my part, I've stated that I don't care if you believe me.

Hardly constitutes an argument.

All I did yesterday was point out that Rangers were the home team, because as far as I knew, you thought otherwise.

It's not my fault, nor my problem, if you took that the wrong way.

But it's a problem easily rectified.

Ignoring you will be my pleasure.

the boke

"Craick".
Sorry its Craic.

The "ginger minge" is a racial sterotype of Celts whether they be Scottish or Irish indeed RC or Protestant so your point is slightly foolish.

215 what an answer. straight from the Collins Book of quick answers, wit and repartee. "Rapier like" springs to mind.

Dubai/Bemused

How do you feel about the RSB over there in light of Jim McLean's comments that RFC have the far tougher job to do out of them and Celtic?

#212 The figure came from the redoubtable "Daily Ranger" as you call it. I have no doubt they would not go into print with something that was statistically wrong. It is quite easy to work out how it occurs, can you do so? Tick Tock, I suppose I better buy some razors whilst I wait.....................

#217 You can be sure that I do not spell some words deliberately. The racial slur was unintended (sorry) it was to reflect the supporters of a commonly used derision for any "carrot top".

220 the boke

So that means you cant provide a link then!

Not surprising.

How daft to claim as you have, that Celtic had the lowest away average support of all teams in the SPL last year.

Lost all credibility there and i bet you cant get a fellow bear who is sane, to go along with that tosh.

219 I think that both Rangers and Celtic will go through. I cant see Rangers losing two goals to RSB without scoring. I hope both clubs go though.

the boke

Can you chat about football or are you gonna talk pis* for the rest of the day?

Its a very simple straightforward question.

223 Dubai

I feel both clubs still have plenty to do and there is real danger in the air with so many people feeling confident.

I hope i'm wrong, well for the hoops that is.

#224 Do you want me to tell you how the away support thing works?

#225 With Rangers having a good away record against that of your mob (Im straining here I really am) we can "hope" for an away goal. I was surprised (and lost money to PaddyP again) at the Moscow result. "Them" (thats the best I can do) have given them-selves a good chance of going through but their defence is suspect. Rangers will have a better chance since the RSB thuggery is already being investigated and the ref will be instructed to hammer them if they try again. In Cousin I think Rangers have their best buy in years, expect him to lead the solo effort.

Tick tock.......................

Bosco,

I don;t think Strachan is feeling over confident. He has said that publicly and I'm hoping he will have the Bhoys prepared for a real fight at Celtic Park. Our chances are good. Would ahve been so much better if Brown had poked that sitter into the back of the net, though.

227 I think it will be a close one between Cousin, Cuellier and McCulloch on best buy. The back room staff at Gers have done well. A left back and left midfielder and we are early there. Smith and a fully fit Buffel may just plug the gap.

229 I think Strachan is being smart taking this view. The only thing that will put Celtic out is if they think all thy have to do is turn up.

David W

Yep, it was a pity about the Brown miss but hey he did have a brilliant match overall and we had a bit of luck at the other end so for me it 'evened' out.

#231 Wattie is way ahead of you there Dubai. Gow will fill the role of McCulloch, when Lee is not fit or under par. Smith and Gow will give just as devastating a left wing option as Whitiker and Hutton on the right. Buffel will see his time out and go next year. If needed my hope is to see Adam in the tip of the diamond, eventually. He played there for St Mirren and starred. All over the park Rangers have strength in depth and they all want to play on our side of the city (unlike some). I have to agree that the MOPEs have given themselves a better chance of going through but have they the better character to ensure it. On this weekend results I doubt it.

and before you all start I mean the manner of getting their results.

Tick tock!

Celtic have the added danger of the occasionaly lapse in defense. One poor marking and suddenly Spartak has an away goal. It changes the entire complexion of the second match.

The good news is that Spartak's defense is susceptible, too. They had the majority of possession in the second half, but McGeady and Brown slipped through to goal pretty easily.

Still, the Bhoys need to take a workman-like to the game.

Good win today. Excellent finishing from Donati and Miller. Naka and McDonald almost put another one in, as well. It wasn't spectacular play onverall, but if you can win 3-1 on the road against the Dons on an off day, you're doing all right.

This isn't the usual grees-vs-blues commentary, but what about City beating Man U. today. And Liverpool is taking it to Chelsea. I think Liverpool could take the premiership this year.

Doh! I spoke too soon. Chelsea just tied it up on a penalty kick.

"He played there for St Mirren and starred."

I'm sure that has the rest of Europe kakking there pants.

238 exactly.

#238 BB1 I would have Adam in my team long long before McGididdy! (and hes our back up this year). Aids is shaping up as your Berti Bombscare and will bring the better players down in performance. Hes rank! The only reason he plays is because you are so bereft of choices and possibly his devotion to Eire and disdain for his Homeland. Adam was player of the year at St Mirren as a loan. He scored 14 goals in his debut season on the left side (out of position) and was a nominee for young player of the year. What do yous buy, a dyed hard bears supporter (mercenary) who scored 5 goals has been in the first team for 3 seasons and cost yous a package of £12m. Smug or what. Hows your calculator doing boyo? Want some help

Bosco

Sorry, popped out for a while.

I didn't need Jim McLean to explain that Rangers have more to do in the second leg than Celtic.

A 1-0 first leg win for the home team leaves the tie balanced 50/50.

A 1-1 draw in the first leg leaves the away team as favourites to go through with a home leg still to come.

I said as soon as the draw was made that both ties were hard to call, and that in probability, one of us would go through and one not.

I didn't specify which, because I didn't know!

On balance, Celtic probably look a little more likely, but both ties, as you say, are dangerous.

Rangers have the lead, and slightly weaker opposition, but a tough away leg to come.

Celtic have home advantage, but are only level, and have slightly better opposition.

So, I'm hedging my bets!

the boke

" and possibly his devotion to Eire and disdain for his Homeland"

Do want a long list, with some former RFC players included, of individuals who wore the blue of Scotland but were not born there?

Did you have a problem then or is there something about McGeady-Celtic-Ireland that holds particular relevance to your viewpoint?

#242 No not a jot. I am pointing out that "Them" may have a weakness for picking Aids before others due to commercial rather than football reasons. If you want another example try Sunnyside up. The only reason he gets a game is commercial reasons. The fact he scored a spectacular against Utd gave him his POY award and there has never been a player so unworthy (many a Tic have). So it takes me back squarely to where I started. The MOPEs start every game 2 players down when Aids & Sunny start. Simple.

But let me twist the logic slightly.

Celtic got a better away result than Red Star did.

Therefore Celtic have a better chance of advancing than Red Star do.

From which you can infer that Rangers have a better chance than Spartak!

the boke

You said

"disdain for his homeland"

I was just pointing out that McGeady was just following in the footsteps on many other pro's such as Goram and Gough of playing for a country that he wasnt born in.

McGeady has decided to play for the country that means the most to him.
Nothing wrong with that, is there?

#245 I take your point Boyo and possibly differ, my own desperation to see Scotland win makes me blind to candidates credentials. I stand by my main points that this allegiance gives him undue leverage as he is not of first team "Them" quality and that along with Sunny yous are 2 players down before a ball is kicked. Fatty and Bluenose are of 1st quality and VOH and Miller are but 4 out of 6 leaves yous wide open to oblivion.

Tick Tock by the way

#245 Your defence is also, strangely, suspect. I admire Naylor and McManus. The comical "Borat" the Pole has his moments and Wilson ok. You are deffo missing a commanding other to match big Carlos. So 3 players down and with better character, that is why the league is already ours. Looking down at all you other lot is what 51 and counting is all about.

#245,

According to Tommy Burns, McGeady picked the country that he thought was most likely to have success.

McGeady's case was very different from the likes of Gough and Goram. McGeady made his decision at a very young age, despite the country he was born and brought up in (and both his parents were born and brought up in) making it clear they wanted him.

the boke

"that is why the league is already ours"

And after only 3 league matches you make this bold proclaimation.

You should take a leaf out of the Man City fans book and not get carried away.

Early days and lots of football to be played.
If you feel confident that after beating the mighty
ict
st mirren
falkirk
that you can ignore what the bookies , pundits and ex pro' s are all predicting i.e. Celtic will retain the title this year, then so be it.

Boberto

Thats what Tommy burns said but i can tell you as a family friend that the boy has more affinity for Ireland and ultimatley would give more to the Irish cause than the Scottish cause as he feels more Irish than Scottish.

Gough, Goram, McCall--methinks it doesnt what other example i give you youll probably give a reason for it being different.

Boberto

Why wasnt there the same fuss about Ray Houghton playing for Ireland in the 80's and 90's in Scotland?

He seemed to slip under the radar dont ye think?

Nobody got any comments over on the...

Our Fans Are Not Racist Say Red Star?! story.

Plus the News of The World has a full back page headline today declaring ;

LIARS

Crvena Zvezda directing the headline allegation against Rangers Football Club.

No comments.....hmmm.

bb1

Ray houghton wood have played for scotland at a drop of a hat , for sum reason he wasn,t deemed good enough , and reluctantly picked ireland .

NN

Yes its a bit dangerous to go down the road as some at RFC have done to label a particular club racist.

Good points from the article.
Beasley alleged that he and other black players had been subjected to constant slurs when he played there with PSV Eindhoven. But Red Star's Senegalese defender Ibrahima Gueye insisted: "I am the best example that Red Star fans are not racist. I've been in Belgrade one year and have never had a single problem. I don't even just mean inside our stadium, I am talking about when I walk around the city centre. I don't know why Beasley said those things. In my experience Belgrade's not like that.

"The people in Belgrade are very nice but the atmosphere will be hostile. There is a lot of anger about the reputation that has been painted of the Red Star fans and the Belgrade people."

Press officer Milan Boksovic said Rangers should get their own house in order.

"Our journalists were amongst the Rangers fans and there were some insults. A supporter was removed but he was calling the journalists refugees and peasants. I have told Rangers about the complaints,

I'm afraid I find it difficult to believe you rather than Tommy Burns, Bosco. But even if you're right, it's a pity that McGeady feels more affinity for the Republic of Ireland than he does for the country where he and his parents were born and brought up.

As for Ray Houghton, he was at Oxford United at the time and was not nearly as high-profile a figure as McGeady (though he moved up in the football world later). He was seen at the time as being in the same category as players like Owen Coyle, Bernie Slaven and Celtic's Tommy Coyne, i.e. not really wanted by Scotland. Nobody cared though later on, when Houghton was at Liverpool, there were some "if onlys".

253 tani

And you that because of...................

Anyway that doesnt change my point why did he get less abuse?- are you suggesting as he was not seen as a loss to the 'cause' of Scotland he was let off lightly but in McGeady's situation it's rather different with him highly sought after.

McGeady, because he is wanted by the SFA/fans/media should then feel obliged to play for Scotland but in Houghtons case it was OK for Scotland to discard him, sounds a bit like double standards.

McGeady is playing for the country he feels the most for and arouses the greatest passion within him, he's not the first and he wont be the last Glasgow born Irishman to opt for the boys in green.

Bosco

No criticism implied, but you do play this "bookies" card quite often.

However, is their recent track record in the SPL encouraging?

Were Jansen's Celtic favourites in 1997?

Or O'Neill's Celtic in 2000?

What about McLeish's Rangers in 2002 or 2004?

Or Strachan's Celtic in 2005?

In fact, recent history suggests that, whenever reasonable doubt exists, they are actually more likely to get it wrong.

So I'm probably glad that Celtic start as slight favourites!

"Yes its a bit dangerous to go down the road as some at RFC have done to label a particular club racist." (254)

Who at Rangers has done that?

And so Red Star's fans only direct their racist abuse at opposition black players? Hardly an excuse is it?

I really don't think Beasley is lying about his experience with PSV. It's a pity that some folk are attempting to turn the important issue of racism in Eastern European football into an attack on Rangers.

bb1

Boberto seems too have summed it up better than i have.

Boberto

Tommy Burns ex Scottish internationl player involved up until recently with the SFA so is it any surprise he put a positive spin on it.

I know the mum and dad and there was never any chance of young McGeady playing for anyone other than Ireland.

You mention several Scots born players who wore the green of Ireland such as Owen Coyle, Bernie Slaven and Celtic's Tommy Coyne. You then mention they were not really wanted by Scotland. Nobody cared though later on, when Houghton was at Liverpool, there were some "if onlys".

My point is that McGeady doesnt need to wait around to see if the country of his birth deem him good enough, as they obvisiouly didnt with the aformentioned players, but he can through his own identity and cultural leanings selct the nation that best represnts him.

As for Ray Houghton, he was at Oxford United at the time and was not nearly as high-profile a figure as McGeady (though he moved up in the football world later). He was seen at the time as being in the same category as players like Owen Coyle, Bernie Slaven and Celtic's Tommy Coyne, i.e. not really wanted by Scotland. Nobody cared though later on, when Houghton was at Liverpool, there were some "if onlys".

Boberto
"Yes its a bit dangerous to go down the road as some at RFC have done to label a particular club racist." (254)
Who at Rangers has done that?"

Beasley alleged that he and other black players had been subjected to constant slurs when he played there with PSV Eindhoven.

"It's a pity that some folk are attempting to turn the important issue of racism in Eastern European football into an attack on Rangers."

Who has done that?

I don't want to delve too deeply into this whole racism issue, but let's not forget that it has already been a big issue in Belgrade this summer.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKL198198662...

"My point is that McGeady doesnt need to wait around to see if the country of his birth deem him good enough" (#260)

He didn't need to wait too long, as he was picked in a Scotland youth squad when he was just 15.

"Beasley alleged that he and other black players had been subjected to constant slurs when he played there with PSV Eindhoven." (261)

Not the same as labelling the whole club racist. Do you think Beasley was lying?

"Who has done that?"

nn produces something calling Rangers "LIARS".

You allege "some at RFC have label[led] a particular club racist".

Many things have been an issue in recent weeks/months but i dont think it was wise of one your players to hand them something as provocative as labelling them racists.

You can only imagine how the RSB management and Serbian media will find it easier to whip up the pre match 'backs against the walls' mentality that can only aid RSB.

BTW
Imagine with all this extra publicity thatUEFA send senior people there to monitor the match for chants etc and a section of Rangers fans decide to act like morons the it could all backfire.

Boberto

Beasley has said he on previous visits to play RSB that he has been on the receiving end of racist treatment, which i do accept,.

Im sure RSB players, fans and management will see that as an attack on the club itself.

I will not get into an arguement of semantics and split hair bull on a footie forum. Watched last night as 2 good fellas did for several hours.

Beasley said it.

#257

One of the great misconceptions is that "the bookies rarely get it wrong". Does the favourite win every horse or dog race? Far from it.

263 Boberto

Still the SFA screwed it up later on didnt they?

But still the fact is that the boy as others have is entitled to play for the country he has the most affinity for and that cleearly wasnt Scotland.

Its really amazing that so many individuals have done this in so many different sports but McGeady Celtic and Ireland is just a combination to get them all going.

"Im sure RSB players, fans and management will see that as an attack on the club itself." (#267)

Maybe they do, but nobody at Rangers has labelled their whole club as racist.

Good weekend for both CFC and RFC although i feel Celts can be a tad happier with 3 points earned at Pittrodrie than 3 points at home to Falkirk.

But well done on the 7 goals!

"Still the SFA screwed it up later on didnt they?" (#269)

Not to my knowledge.

"Its really amazing that so many individuals have done this in so many different sports but McGeady Celtic and Ireland is just a combination to get them all going."

Celtic and the ROI wasn't a problem when it was Tommy Coyne. So it's obviously about McGeady - he had been built up as some kind of wonderkid, in contrast to Coyne who was a decent older player who just didn't make it into Scotland's squad.

#272

Very happy with the 7 goals.

Not surprised that Celtic won at Pittodrie or that they came back from a goal down - it's hardly the first time!

Boberto

Beasley has said he on previous visits to play RSB that he has been on the receiving end of racist treatment
and you say
but nobody at Rangers has labelled their whole club as racist.-- that i agree.

I'm quite confident that when the media in Serbia and the RSB management wish to whip up the pre match mood that they may omit to point out the find subtleties in the 2 above.

Amazing how much debate the whole McGeady saga still causes, isn't it?

My take is that if the lad was entitled to play for RoI, then he had the right to make that decision, so god luck to him.

Many Celtic supporters on these threads talk of his "affinity" with RoI. I'm happy to take their word for it.

He did make the decision though, unless I'm mistaken, at a time when Scotland were frankly, useless, and the RoI looked a much better option.

Happily, that particular situation no longer exists.

I note also, on a related topic, that Agbonlahor has chosen England over Scotland. If that's how he feels, then he too has done the right thing.

I wonder how Scottish fans will take to this young lad Morrison after his ill-advised statement?

273 Boberto

"Celtic and the ROI wasn't a problem when it was Tommy Coyne. So it's obviously about McGeady - he had been built up as some kind of wonderkid, in contrast to Coyne who was a decent older player who just didn't make it into Scotland's squad."

Sooooo if your a wonderkid then you automatically have to play for the country of your birth but if your a plodder like Coyne then you have complete freedom to make the choice of your own personal feelings.

Just no consistency here, its nothing to do with identity or a notion of nationhood/cultural leanings -- it really comes down to whether the place your were born in deems you good enough.
Well sorry thats not how it works.
McGeady is Irish and as a result he decided to play for Ireland.

Morrison, whats that about Bemused?

In the end a comfortable win for the champs after a blistering second-half performance.

Glad the Celts got a good result today ... a thouroughly convincing victory at Pittodrie when Aberdeen were under fairly severe pressure to get a result, and after a midweek trip half-way around the world.

Of the opening 6 SPL fixtures faced by Celtic and Rangers, the three toughest were Celtic's , today's being the standout.

Bosco

James Morrison, the young winger, now with West Brom, who has used the "granny" rule and pledged his future to Scotland.

Unfortunately, he then went on to say (approximately)

"I could've done a job for England, but how long would I have had to wait?"

bb1

tony cascarino is more irish than mcgeady.

Patrick, a bit contentious in my opinion.

From a personal viewpoint, I wouldn't class an away match at Falkirk or a home match with Kilmarnock as being as tough as an away trip to Inverness, particularly when you factor in the travelling and previous recent meetings etc.

tani

You keep getting things wrong today.

If you had read Cascarino's book you would know that he admits he has no connection to Ireland.

As they say in school reports:
Must try Harder!

Bemused

2 points.

1 Has he said something that many before have privatley considered?

2 Will this damage him beyond repair with the Tartan Army, Scottish Sports media and general public?

If Caley were the same force as in the last few years , I'd agree Bemused.

But all the signs point to Caley being potentially the new whipping boys of the SPL.

good so far but longway to go lets not get carried away yet as celtic look very good also

A number of Caley fans have felt that the club has gone into decline since Charlie Christie took over.

They are the only team to emerge from the first three fixtures with nil points.

In the first 4 SPL matches , Celtic will have faced 3 recognised top six teams ( Killie, Hearts and Aberdeen)

Rangers will have faced one.

Well, one thing leads to another Patrick, and it could be argued that Rangers win up there got Inverness off to the worst possible start, and that they haven't recovered, as confidence plays a big part in this game.

In any case, nobody can deny that Kilmarnock away next week is a genuinely hard match for Rangers, so maybe there will be less of the "easy start" complaints if we emerge victorious from that one.

In fact , I'd say that Charlie Christie is already close to the sack...if Caley don't pick up any points in their next two games , I'd say his coat will be on a shaky nail.

"Sooooo if your a wonderkid then you automatically have to play for the country of your birth but if your a plodder like Coyne then you have complete freedom to make the choice of your own personal feelings." (277)

Bit of a distortion there. I believe you should play for your country if they call. If your country don't want you then of course you're free to go elsewhere, if you want.

Bosco #284

I'm sure you're right, but it's a thoughtless thing to say just after you've made the switch.

On the second point, it will depend largely on how he goes about his business in a dark blue shirt. If he plays well, and shows a real commitment to the cause, I'm sure all will be forgiven.

He'll hopefully be a Don Hutchison or a Nigel Quashie, rather than a Neil Sullivan or a Matt Elliot!

Tony Cascarino may not be more Irish than McGeady but I seem to recall that Darren Flectcher has a closer tie to the ROI than McGeady. Roy Keane tried to persuade Darren to play for the ROI but thankfully Darren stuck with Scotland.

#14
yer no nearly ye ur a dreamer anol.

3 games in, does anybody feel bold enough to predict the final SPL positions. My guess......

Rangers
Celtic
Hibs
Hearts
Kilmarnock
Aberdeen
Motherwell
Falkirk
Dundee Utd
Inverness
St Mirren
Gretna

There's an obvious error at no.1 Bemused, but we all make mistakes.

I think Hibs will make 3rd spot as well.

The rest is pretty much guess work, but I'd say bottom spot is between Caley and Gretna.

BB1 You seem to be a bit of a walter mitty. I bring up Aids and it turns out hes a personal friend. 2N brings up racism and suddenly you lived in Belgrade for a year. Whats next you work for the Daily Ranger and it was you who calculated the MOPEs have the least away support average in the SPL. Want me to tell you how its calculated?

By the way 2 major bookies on the back of Rangers performance yesterday slashed the odds on Rangers winning the league to the same as the Tic. Quote was Sultana round up last night. That is the first time any bookies have had Rangers at least equal in 7 years. I wonder what they know and you lot and Paddypowderpuffs dont!

Hee Hee Rangers fans must be sick...

at 1-0 down they must have thought ...we're gonna be 5 points clear.

Now they have to beat Killie away next saturday or we will knock them off the top of the league...hahaha

Even with an easy start they will be playing catch up soon.

Brilliant Bhoys...Aiden fantastic, Naka amazing, Donati awesome...Kenny brilliant...keep some of those goals for Oct OF game.

Hail hail

ps...Every Celtic fan out there...send a letter of support to Gordon Strachan. He needs to see our appreciation of his great work. Dont let the media, the authorities and all the hateful opposition fans drive the wee man out.

BE

Celtic
15 point gap
Rangers
6 pt Gap
Hibs
4 pt Gap
Aberdeen
Dundee Utd
Hearts
1 pt Gap
Killie
Motherwell
Falkirk
St Mirren
ICT
Ipt Gap
Gretna

"Now they have to beat Killie away next saturday or we will knock them off the top of the league...hahaha"

Not factually correct, Tim.

a draw with Kilmarnock will almost certainly keep us top of the league.

And even if we lose, Celtic would still have to beat Hearts to overtake us.

PS If you'd lost to Aberdeen, we still wouldn't be 5 points clear.

Hibs and Kilmarnock are on 7 pts

not doing too well, are you?

That's why we're champions! Woohoo!

We only have to play for half an hour to win in a canter! Isn't life wonderful. Just realised today that the bungs play their game next Saturday and not Sunday as I had supposed. So I don't think we will be top next week (though you never know).

All in all, we might be in a race this year – I'd forgotten what it was like to have a rival. lol!

The boke...keep rubbing yer eyes wee man...I'll pray that one day you will be able to see...

304

Pat...in the end we could have scored 10 goals v Falkirk...

Another 10 today...look ayt all the efforts and chances we had.

In Naka and Aiden we really have two wonderful players. Truly great. Donati as well looks like he will be some player amazing composure for the 1st and 2nd goal.

Miller some player if he keeps it going.

304...

Pat, don't know about you but dont you think Celtic are playing brilliant without lenny.

Every time they go forward its like a hot knife going through butter.

Hail hail

Gordon Strachan for a Knighthood

still pmsl ...out loud

#302

Bitter. You may well be "rubbing" something but it isn't your eyes. Going blind?

I love the Celtic optimism.

A couple of weeks ago these threads were full of Tims forecasting a rough start for us at Inverness.

A couple of days ago they reckoned we'd come unstuck against Falkirk.

We only won those 2 games by a combined 8 goal margin, by the way.

Now Pat reckons Killie will put us to the sword next week. Well, hope springs eternal, I suppose.

As for these great teams you've played.

Where are Aberdeen in the table?

Where are Falkirk?

Where are next week's opponents Hearts?

It would appear that you've played one decent team, and they came to your place and got a draw.

Sometimes the truth is just soooo inconvenient!

311
Its hilarious readig them if i want i laugh i just read what the celtic fans say,not long ago kenny reject was a donkey...now hes a world class striker... still pmsl

#307 Oh and Pat dont you think im wonderful. In a panic looking for help and you pick the biggest clown on the forums. Patty is fixated with his garlic practice he wont understand your english.
# Jerry. I bet if I was rubbing something it would resemble something male and not the fud you have or are. One desperate win and its like Pear Harbour you all come in waves. Pity you dont have the tummy before the win. Yous were pish you will be pish for the season and yous are going down.

#311
#312

This time last year you were still convinced that PLG would sweep all before him! It still makes me laugh.

Had lots of comments to make, but stopped in my tracks by #307 Typical Tim Tit," dont you think Celtic are playing brilliant without lenny. "

Not Lenny the celtic leg-end surely?

They're doing better without him?

How were they ever gonna relace him?

B@wb@g.

Good 3 points for cfc today, never easy going up to sheeepland.

Got to admit though that the dons are complete and utter garbage these days.

Dunfermline were an embarassment the other night in Europe, aberdeen are going to be just as bad if not worse.

A note to all the celtic fans going on about Rangres' opponents so far, ie, top 6 teams and all that rubbish...

There are only 2 decent teams in the SPL and we all know who they are.

None of the teams outside of Glasgow are anything approaching good.

The RFC v cfc games will decide the league.

#313

Have you tied up your carer?

not convinced ...more hopefull..but we have a good manager now...and we all know all of you`s are worried...rangers have made some excellent signings

Must be painful, jerry, still laughing a year later.

A doctor might be a good idea?

You can count me out. I saw no reason to believe that PLG would "sweep all before him".

I knew nothing about the guy, or the players he brought in.

WS (and the players he's brought in) are far better known quantities.

I certainly don't think we'll sweep all before us.

But, edge the SPL title?

Probably.

#318

Thanks for the advice. Keep taking the pills.

I'd rather take Tim's pills.

They appear much more potent, bordering on hallucinatory.

A couple of those, and you believe McGeady, Nakamura and Donati to be World-Class talents, and Miller and MacDonald to be supreme predators.

Some powerful stuff!

298 the boke

I dont know what your drinking but i'll have one of them.

I know McGeady's ma and da and so do lots of people who lived in Govanhill you prat.

Never ever did i say i lived in Belgrade.

I see you could never provide a link to the amazingly daft idea that Celtic had the lowest away average support out of 12 teams.

Not surprised as your really only 12 and on the wind up.

Bosco

I suspect he may be referring to the strange stats that the Daily Record kept last year were they gave every SPL team's average home gates and average away gates.

The "away" figures through up some strange anomalies. I could never see the point myself.

It may be that Celtic did finish bottom. Remember, every other team was getting 2 visits to Celtic Park!

Bemused

2 of your statements.

"A couple of weeks ago these threads were full of Tims forecasting a rough start for us at Inverness."

"You can count me out. I saw no reason to believe that PLG would "sweep all before him".

One statement deals with Celtic fans as a group and the other seperates you of course from the majority Rangers fan view of last August.

Typical debating style of yours when you seem to want to protect yourself from past declarations.
Media 1 just changes teams you on the other hand employ different tactics as you never read anything wrong.

I don't see the problem with that, Bosco.

jerrymander's statement in #314 was directed to me personally.

I have the right to answer it as an individual.

I never ever claim to speak for anyone else on these threads.

love the fuds that know so much about football that they underestimate nakamura..voted by his fellow pros as player of the year..and raved about by ex rangers manager and scotland manager alex mcleish..x

Naka-Diver is a fud to use your lovely expression, sonofacosmos.
He was voted diver of the year because there were no other candidates really.
What has McLeish got to do with it?

He's a dafty like strachan.

They have a lot in common.

Both ginger....

Both ugly....

Both ex-sheep sh@ggers...

Both might still be doing it...

Both got handed trophies due to utter incompetence from their OF rival...

your right dream team..diss the 2 managers that have won the spl for the last 3 seasons and diss the players player of tje year..your negativity could get you a job with the scottish media..bless x

dream..as i have been out drinking tonight with a 15+ year season ticket holder in the govan stand at ibrox.can i ask is your first name richard..as most of your posts have you identified as a dick x

Bemused Exile writes:

"Now Pat reckons Killie will put us to the sword next week. Well, hope springs eternal, I suppose."

Where did I say that, Clouseau? Some evidence for the statement would help.

I'll check in the morning. Keep searching, inspector.

i find this thread reli sad 330 comments! nearley neurotic + ghengis dont u hav anything better 2 b doin?