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Put images of diseased livers on drinks bottles, say doctors



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BOTTLES of beer and wine should include graphic images of diseased livers and mouth cancers to warn of the dangers of drinking too much, doctors said yesterday.
The BMA conference in Edinburgh heard that alcohol consumption in the UK had doubled since 1960, alongside a massive rise in alcohol-related illness and crime.

Dr Raj Nirula, a urologist at the Princess of Wales Hospital in Bridgend, Wales, propos
ed the use of graphic images on alcohol products, as well as on posters in pubs and clubs, warning of the possible results of excess drinking. Images showing the results of smoking will start appearing on cigarette packets at the end of the year.

Dr Nirula said: "Alcohol consumption and binge drinking in society is a big problem." The UK could lead the way in tackling this by using the unpleasant images on cans, bottles and posters.

"They should be in pubs and on bottles, on every single drink," he said. "Excessive alcohol causes cirrhosis of the liver and leads to a higher incidence of cancer. I think we have to take the lead. We are talking about alcohol misuse in society,…this is becoming an epidemic. We have to start from an early age, to target teenagers – they are the ones getting into the culture."

Dr Nirula said people who were not drinking were seen as abnormal, with binge-drinking becoming the norm.

There was evidence that adverts at Christmas warning about drink-driving were successful in making people think about their behaviour, and he said graphic images on alcohol products could have the same effect – a move that was backed overwhelmingly by doctors at the conference.

They also called for soft drinks to be made "significantly cheaper" than alcohol, and for labels showing alcohol units per drink to be mandatory on bottles and bar taps.

Don Shenker, the chief executive of Alcohol Concern, said using graphic images on alcohol was an interesting idea, but he added: "We need to avoid alienating people with imagery or language that doesn't necessarily chime with their experience of drinking."



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1

Schot,

10/07/2008 00:36:41
I think personal messages on the backs of bottles from victims of the alcohol industry would be more compelling. All us smokers had seen diseased lungs before we started.
2

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 00:39:57

DONT BE STUPID!!,...will you,?

IT WONT MAKE A,..'BLIND BIT OF DIFFERENCE'!!

"Alcohol" could come out of the sewers, and they that want it, Will Still Drink It!,..'end of',..and

Lets 'END' the Stupidity, if you think a Label on a Bottle will make any Difference!

FOR GODS SAKE!

WHAT DO YOU GET PAID FOR,?
3

syntax,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 03:30:53
Smoking kills - the message apparently hasn't stopped people smoking?

I've seen a diseased liver - so what? The government tell us what to eat, what to drink, how to live our lives?

Sod off. I'll do what I want - eat what I want and live the life I want. There is nothing this government can do about it......... Whatever my lifestyle they are happy to steal my taxes so I'll lead the life I like!!
4

Guga II,

Rockall 10/07/2008 04:21:17
Maybe they should put posters of dead people, who have been killed by Hospital Acquired Infections, in every ward in every hospital, as well as in every GPs waiting rooms.

These posters should emphasise how most of these infections are the result of too many doctors being too lazy to wash their hands/use alcohol gel/wear a new pair of rubber gloves as they move from patient to patient.

They could have additional posters showing magnified views of all the germs that breed on doctors ties and other outdoor clothing that they continue to wear whilst working with patients.
5

Pilrig.,

Livingston 10/07/2008 05:47:42
Prohibition here we come.
6

Itchy,

10/07/2008 06:32:52
We should put doctors in Fascist black as they think that Fascism is good for your health.
7

Boy Wonder,

10/07/2008 08:58:23
Just put Charles Linskaill's photo on everything ... and people will soon get the message!
8

long live the supermarkets,

Every little hurts 10/07/2008 09:16:35
What about putting someones dodgy heart on cartons of cream,cheese,crisps,chocolate etc.
We could have lungs on cigarettes.
We could have dodgy ears on very large loud speakers.
We could have rotten toes on stilettos.
Maybe all this is a bit silly.
9

C. RAB.BIT,

fife 10/07/2008 09:19:23
The pictures of corpses could also be on the bonnet, bow or nose of the car,ship or aircraft or any other device that could kill you.
10

Charles Linskaill,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 10:25:39

Boy Wonder ~7,

Very Funny!, you are stressing me out!

Bad enough the DYW and our associated procreation Problems!

You are leading me to the 'Bottle'! :(
11

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 11:00:07
Here we go again. The nazis are back in action, bad-mouthing anyone who dares to enjoy themselves.

I though all this stupid storm in a teacup had died down.

If they don't want to drink, fine. Shut up, keep your noses out and mind your own business. Others DO want to drink, they enjoy it and they cause no harm. S0d off and leave us alone.
12

TimW1234,

Ottawa, Canada 10/07/2008 11:01:13
Boy Wonder

STOP picking on dear, darling, sensitive Charles Linskaill.

Charles Linskaill

Boy Wonder should have HIS picture on the bottles and it would turn Scotland into the world's first completely teetotal nation.

In Canada we have gruesome images of diseased lungs on cigarette packages and STILL people buy them.

When they die an agonising death of lung cancer that has spread throughout their bodies perhaps they may think back and heeded the warnings from the health authorities here.

Charles

Have a GREAT day and hope you are HARD at work in procreating and getting your DYW pregnant soonest.

The suspense is stressing us all out. Now, off to bed with your DYW and DO THE DEED! :)))))
13

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 11:10:47
#1:

"...personal messages on the backs of bottles from victims of the alcohol industry would be more compelling"

Oh yeah? I suppose you mean messages along the lines of:-

"My father drank a bottle of scotch a day, then came home and beat us up"

or maybe:-

"I lost my home, my family and my job because of drink. I'm now in rehab and my doctor says I have severe liver damage and will live for another year if I am lucky"

or eve:-

"My mother was killed when a drunken driver who was 3 times the limit mounted the kerb and crashed into the bus stop she was waiting at"

Yes, all very true, all very tragic. However, there is one major problem with this... ...They are MINORITY cases. It is not the norm that if you enjoy a drink, your circumstances will end up being anything remotely like the three quotes above.

Please stop knee-jerking and come back down to earth. Yes, there are cases like the above, but these are very rare in comparison to the millions of people who enjoy a drink and end up with nothing worse than a hang-over to show for it. Their lives are not affected, they don't beat their family up. They don't force their wife and kids to leave them. They don't end up with fatal liver disease and they don't get into their car and take a bus stop with them at 60mph.

Tragedies are NOT the norm. Let's not kid ourselves that they are.... Eh?
14

Schot,

10/07/2008 11:45:40
13

I have no problem with you drinking, I drink and smoke myself, although I think you underestimate the damage it does cause society.
"Others DO want to drink, they enjoy it and they cause no harm."
Some drinkers cause a lot of harm, both to themselves and to others. There is no harm in warning them, this isn't a ban after all.

I was merely saying personal stories are more effective than pictures of organs in persuading people to drink sensibly. So the news story the other day of the woman who helped kill her lover whose life had become unbearable due to alcohol-induced liver-failure, that'd be more effective than a picture of her liver. Even a photo of the victim in a hospital bed would be more effective.



slainte,
15

Schot,

10/07/2008 11:49:15
Heroin doesn't kill nearly as many Scots as alcohol, and many junkies can sustain their habit without anti-social behaviour. But if heroin was relegalised, I'd expect a health warning on the pack.
16

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 11:56:48
"Some drinkers cause a lot of harm, both to themselves and to others. There is no harm in warning them..."

Correct. There IS no harm in warning them, but warn JUST them. Leave the rest of us out of it.

Let's face it, with the amount of knee-jerking do-gooding that's going on at present, you'd need to be deaf, blind and stupid not to realise that if you drink to wild excess, it can cause untold harm. And let's face it, if you WERE deaf, blind and stupid, you would have a smidgon more to concern yourself with than having a drink in the first place!

The message is already out there. As far as I am concerned, it is far too prevalent in the present climate. We don't need it ramped up yet again.

Even in the 1970s, when I was a kid, I was aware of the fact that too much drink and/or too many fags was not good for you---and that was in an era when it was seen as macho to drink heavily and smoke all the time. If the message got through, even to kids, in those days, it certainly gets through now in our pink and fluffy little cartoon world (where the sun always shines and the doggies and pussycats play in the meadow and no-one has to hurt their little head by thinking too hard).

I'm sick of all this dumbing down and treating everyone like an idiot. I'm NOT an idiot and that is why I take exception when people come out with these kinds of ideas. If some people are too stupid to get the message then that is their problem, not mine.
17

Schot,

10/07/2008 12:23:52
When I was a child I was rabidly against cigarettes and alcohol. I used to take all my families fags and flush them down the toilet. I would never get in a car with anyone driving who'd had a drink.
I don't like thinking of myself as an idiot, but my smoking and drinking is idiotic.
There isn't a way to warn only the idiots.

If I was to suggest a better cause for you then it wouldn't be the health warnings, but the taxes imposed. Whisky is cheaper in the Netherlands, which pissed me off. They already have marijuana, why can't we have cheap whisky ? I'd say whisky should be tax-free in Scotland.
18

M.Corleone,

2nd Vatican State...... Coatbridge 10/07/2008 14:08:26
And lets put pictures of mangled bodies on new cars....

and let's put pictures of kids under 10 who work 16 hours a day in a sweat shop for buttons on the new clothes we buy

lets put pictures of dead civilians who have been dismembered in their own homes by so called smart boombs on some of the weaponry we sell

19

Benjamin,

Dresden 10/07/2008 16:54:51
Why does anyone think this will help? Todays smokers (for the most part) knew the health risks before they started. Alcoholic beverages will still be consumed at the rate they are presently, only with the added conversational benefit of having pictures to look at and discuss with your bar neighbor.
20

Alternative (High-Octane) Fuel Head,

Edinburgh 10/07/2008 17:16:10
#17:

I don't think smoking and drinking is idiotic. Provided it is not done to excess, it is enjoyable and relatively harmless. It's only when you do it to excess or inappropriately that it becomes a problem.
21

Schot,

10/07/2008 18:00:47
"Provided it is not done to excess, it is enjoyable and relatively harmless."

100% true. 'Provided'. However, weaker-willed people than you do tend to excess.
22

Schot,

10/07/2008 18:35:26
"Why does anyone think this will help?"

Because advertising works. That is why so much money is spent on advertising. Even a subliminal positive message has a positive effect. That is one of the reasons I buy cigarettes from countries whose language I don't understand.

"Roken brengt u en anderen rondom u ernstige schade toe" for instance I assume means smoking can lead to you stubbing your toe.
23

Ribbonman,

10/07/2008 22:46:49
I couldnt help but notice, that some of Saturdays parading orangemen were completely "blitzed", whilst following behind "temperence" banners.This should not surprise many people.

 

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