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Murray crushed by ruthless Nadal



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Published Date: 03 July 2008
ANDY Murray's Wimbledon dream was dashed in pitiless style by Rafael Nadal last night, when the Spaniard won their quarter-final in straight sets on Centre Court. As the 21-year-old Scot admitted, Nadal, a 6-3, 6-2, 6-4 winner in a match which lasted an hour and 55 minutes, was simply superior in almost every aspect of play.
Even allowing for the difference in quality between Nadal and Richard Gasquet of France, Murray lacked the inspiration which had taken him through in five sets against the Frenchman in the previous round. Having celebrated his strength and stamina after that inspiring victory on Monday evening, Murray was reluctant to accept that he was tired against Nadal, but there was little doubt that some of his mental edge, at least, was lacking.

There is no disgrace in losing to a player of such quality – one, moreover, who Murray reckons could even be a slight favourite in a final against Roger Federer if he maintains the standard he displayed yesterday evening. The British No 1 knows there is a gulf in class between the world's top two tennis players and him and the other hopefuls. But, in upbeat mood after having gone further in a grand slam than ever before, he insisted that with a lot of hard work he could bridge that gulf.

"He played so much better than me," the No 12 seed said after a match which started at 6.30pm, following rain delays to the previous contest, Federer's win over Mario Ancic. "I didn't feel like I played my best, which is a bit disappointing, but regardless, he was playing too well, probably, for me. His forehand was ridiculous. He's hitting the ball so close to the line so hard that it was difficult for me to get into a rhythm. I felt rushed on every point. It's amazing how fast he's hitting the ball and how much control he has over it."

Murray is rightly pleased with the way a hard-working winter in the gym has paid off for him in terms of extra strength and durability, but as he acknowledged, Nadal too has moved on, particularly on grass.

"I have to look on it as a good thing, to see that I can improve so many things in my game," said Murray. "It's up to me to make sure I go and do that.

"He's improved his game a lot on grass. He's definitely the second best grasscourt player behind Federer, and is closer to him this year than he was.

"If he plays like that and returns like that he's very close to being the favourite to win the tournament. I think he's got a very, very good chance of winning. He was close last year and I think he's playing better than he was last year.

"But I have to look at my game, work on some things, and work even harder and try to get up to that level, which I do think is possible. It's just going to take a lot of hard work."

Murray had insisted from before the tournament that he could not go into it believing that anything less than winning would be satisfactory. Having successfully negotiated one round more than before, however, he was able to reflect on what has to go down as an improvement, albeit one which still leaves him some way behind the big two.

"I've got to try and be positive about the whole two weeks. The match against Gasquet is one of the best matches I've ever played in. (And I had] three solid matches before that against good players.

"I mean, it's been a positive tournament for me. I got further than my seeding and ranking suggested. I'm going to be back in the top ten at the end of the week, which is something I felt I was good enough to do. Now I've got to try and stay there."

While happy with his own game, Nadal praised that of his opponent too. "He's going to be in the top positions. Well, he is in the top positions already, but he's going to be in the top five. If he continues like this, the competition and having more matches on his shoulders are going to give him the confidence to be in the top five, I think."

Nadal now goes on to a semi-final against either Arnaud Clement or Rainer Schuettler, whose quarter-final will resume today, weather permitting, at a set apiece. Murray will go home, rest for a couple of days, then plan for the hardcourt season in the United States.

The full article contains 782 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 02 July 2008 11:39 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Andrew Murray
 
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03/07/2008 00:03:52
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

03/07/2008 00:09:19
Oops. Now that Andy's officially British, or rather the English version of what it is to be British, we can expect years of failure. Isn't that what's expected of him now? At least if he'd stayed Scottish, he could meet our lower expectations. For lower - read realistic for a country our size.
3

Richardinho,

03/07/2008 00:27:10
Bit unfair to say that Murray was 'crushed'. But he was certainly well beaten. There was not 6-1 amongst those stats. The most you can say is that he is good enough to give the likes of Nadal a good 'workout'. Nadal certainly didn't look like he had a weakness, but surely he must have.
If murray had got his first serve ration up a bit higher, he would have probably held onto his serve in those one or two games that made the difference. Then it's a question of taking your chances on Nadal's serve.
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Guga II,

Rockall 03/07/2008 00:46:36
That's what happens when you wrap yourself in the Butcher's Apron.
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 03/07/2008 00:56:37
The dreaded Curse of the Butcher's Apron.
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 03/07/2008 00:56:46
It must be comforting to anoraks like Guga to get some political slant even on Wimbledon.
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Mercutio,

FALKIRK 03/07/2008 00:58:47
PS Colin Montgomerie tried the same trick with the Saltire and had a similar result.
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 03/07/2008 01:10:38
Just because you don't have a Brigadoon accent doesn't make you any less a Scot, Mercutio. I myself speak perfect Albertan.
Lay off our Colin.
Isn't the Open coming up? And Tiger's out. There's still a ghost of a chance.
9

Reekin' Lum,

03/07/2008 01:45:09
Sad, but he's probably going to hang about in the lower competitions with the likes of Roddick who he beats easily and that's probably that. He came along when Federer and Nadal came along and that's about it!
He made a good showing but at 21 , it's a bit too late.
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03/07/2008 01:50:01
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Guga II,

Rockall 03/07/2008 02:00:36
#6

It must be some comfort to drongoes like you when someone wraps themselves in your Butcher's Apron.
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Neil Waugh,

Old Strathcona 03/07/2008 02:32:33
Where are all the front runners, bandwagon jumpers and odds-on betters? All in their beddie byes?
And the defenders of the ludicrous. Trying to explain why the Apron is really a Scottish flag and symbol.
Looks like Murray's support was a mile wide and an inch deep. Sad really.
13

Huntly loon,

Aberdeenshire 03/07/2008 02:41:02
Murray may be in the top ten of players but Nadal and Federer are so far ahead of the rest that it shows. It's palin to see why they are seeded 1 & 2. Nadal was formidable. Murray looked tired, but he had few of the lucky breaks he needed to keep in contention with Nadal. Nevertheless, I would not say he was crushed. He kept himself in contention in all the sets and if he had been allowed to raise his game or if Nadal had been off-form, Murray could have had a chance. As it was Nadal was playing his best tennis and Murray was not.

The crowd was a bit subdued and they were polite rather than passionate. The local fans were evenly divided between supporting Murray or Nadal. I doubt if that would have been the case if it had been Henman. I still think the English fans were in two minds which foreigner from a country begining with 'S' they wanted to back.
14

Helene,

Ontario, Canada 03/07/2008 04:12:10
#13 - never mind what the English think. Let's not labour the British/Scottish aspect. Murray is a great player, just not at Federer/Nadal level yet, like all the other international level players. As I watched the Murray/Gasquet match on Monday on a US channel, the astute John McEnroe, commentator, noted that "England is behind Murray.....or Great Britain, whatever it is......" To the rest of the world, Murray is a great player, plain and simple
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 03/07/2008 06:43:47
Murray went ito the tournament ranked 12th - ie scheduled to go out at the last 16 stage. Instead, he went one round further, to the last eight, so he over-achieved.

He was beaten by the world numbe two, at a time when the top two are significantly better than all the rest.

I'd like to have seen him go out beaten in a five-setter, but this as one he was always likely to lose.

His trick now is to come back stronger and get closer or even beat Nadal; but he now knows, he'll need to work even harder to do this and I believe he will work at it.
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03/07/2008 07:12:03
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jamboforever,

Edinburgh 03/07/2008 07:33:53
lets's Roger only took 4 games of Nadal in the final of the French.
It is great British/Scottish trait which seems to enjoy knocking our best players down. Murray is one of the best ten players in a world wide sport. How many other Scots can say that?
If he can continue to improve he will go further.
He should also be commended as he had a particularly hard draw.
18

Rob,

Moray 03/07/2008 08:11:42
#17. We're second rate in everything sportwise. Good for the English to support Murray - ignore Guga, who is renowned as a world class pillock. If Murray has any sense he'll keep the Union flag close at hand and stay out of the pettiness of Scottish politics
19

Venachar,

03/07/2008 08:35:54
He learned that he's playing in the big boys playground now.
Review his last two games, get your first service in, don't play that stupid drop shot so often, listen to your coach and don't pretend you know it all.
20

John Cameron,

Broughty Ferry 03/07/2008 08:50:37
The commentators talked about Nadal as if was some legendary veteran player, but he is less than a year older than Murray. We really do expect miracles from what other nations would class as journeymen.
21

Falconer,

houdeng aimeries 03/07/2008 08:53:17
So Andy lost to a brilliant n°2. Lets not forget that he has beaten Federer twice out of three matches, the last time this year with a score of 6-7(6), 6-3, 6-4. Does that suggest Nadal will win this year? Last year he was tired and frustrated with his 3rd round match taking 5 days to complete. This year Nadal looks fresh as he moves towards a final with Federer.

Anyway, Scotland's flower has already proved he has the will to work and the guts to win; he'll get there.
22

Mike Masterton,

03/07/2008 09:05:01
#10 Your comment is what makes this country grating -
-(look it up ) pillock.
Andy made a lot of mistakes on the day, that was his downfall, hopefully he make build on this for next year.
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Sir Minty Moonbeams, Casino Royale,

03/07/2008 09:06:39
21

And let's not forget that at a personal level Andy Murray is a complete retard.
That's what happens when you've got a mother obsessed with turning her child into a tennis star...whilst Andy was either training or sleeping, all his mates were out groping girls' t1ts and trying their damndest to get laid....but Andy grew up in a capsule with spiderman comics.
That's why he behaves so inappropriately...if he wasn't a tennis player, he'd be on panorama as a sufferer of some newly diagnosed psychological condition : someone who wanders around supermarkets flexing their biceps at people being a primary symptom.
This troubled lad has psychosis written all over his plug-like face. He is trapped inside the mind of a sexually frustrated 14 year old .
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J.A.,

Gala 03/07/2008 09:15:06
This is typical of the press. Andy Murray played an absolute blinder on Monday and showed a great deal of grit. The press build him up and pin far too much expectation on his game with Nadal. This year we have witnessed Nadal stepping up another gear especially on grass and Murray had no realistic chance of beating him. Until Murray gets his 1st serve percentages improved and adds more pace and penetration to his second serve he will continue to be punished by the top players.
Nadal has had the build of a 22 year old since he was about 18 and Murray is probably 3 years behind. Having seen the welcome improvements he has made to both his build and temperament I have no doubt that he will be able to address the short comings he still has in his game.
Andy Murray is a hard worker with all the physical and mental attributes to continue to improve. If he manages to stay healthy for the next three years I have no doubt that he will be pressing for a grand slam win. I think we should learn to be a bit more patient, lets face it, who else do we have to pin our hopes to?

#20 Get real, Andy Murray is no journeyman!!

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AD in sunny Livingston,

03/07/2008 09:50:08
#23 Why do you have to slag him off on a personal level - what's that got to do with anything.

Murray is maturing - different people mature at different rates - it appears you may have a little trouble in that department yourself. He may be awkward in front of the cameras - so what - ever thought that he's actually a bit shy and is trying to come out of his shell - can't be easy with the world's press at your doorstep constantly.

The important thing is he's making progress - he's come on in leaps and bounds since last year. He has more stamina and maturity and plays a better game. Yes, there is still room for improvement and I'm sure he'll go away from Wimbledon wiser and with an idea of what he needs to work on next.

The important thing is he took part, he did his best - which was better than we all thought he was going to do.

The press should back off stop pressurising him to win championships - they're one of his biggest handicaps.
26

Skyrat,

Edinburgh 03/07/2008 10:00:05
Funny how he's Scottish again. Contrast this to yesterday's article and you'll see the word British appears just once today, in the title of British number 1.
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council never win,

03/07/2008 10:10:31
#17, #18

Why do always put ourselves down.

I think you'll find Chris Hoy is easily in the top 10 with World Cycling Champion in the sprint and keirin, Olymic champion in the kilo, Commenwealth champion in the team sprint. He has been winning medals in all the big championships since 1999.
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McGinty,

03/07/2008 10:10:48
Murray was potentially more inventive than Nadal who seems to be more slugger than savvy.
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AJ Fife,

03/07/2008 10:48:18
Tremendous experience for Scotland's No1. He'll come back a stronger and wiser player next year!

30

Murrayfield PR Office, set the lines jangling,

03/07/2008 11:34:12
The only bad thng about this has been all the Hootsmon chippiness and home counties snobbery it's brought out amongst his fans/ detractors.

Some of the stuff that's been written about Andy in supposedly serious publications has been Pathetic (along the lines of "he's not very fanciable is he?).

Well done for rising above it old bean - must be difficult for a 21 year old.
31

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

03/07/2008 11:36:40
Good to see Murray's game progressing
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Ribbonman,

03/07/2008 11:38:59
I am more than happy to see this "showoff" get his @rse kicked. This great "British boy" is now nothing more than a "defeated Scot"
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colleen m,

Halifax 03/07/2008 11:57:55
Who is kidding who? Murray has as much chance of winning a grand slam as I have and I have never played tennis in my life.
With Nadal and Federer around he is in a different league, first division as against premiership.
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Kenny76,

Edinburgh 03/07/2008 12:02:37
Can I bring peoples attention to this article my Stephen Glover of the Daily Mail.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1031312/Forget-West-Lothian---The-Andy-Murray-question-tells-need-know-Union.html

See below, my post, which of course was not allowed!!



What a sad excuse for an article. The reason Andy Murray shouts and frequently clenches his fist is to pump himself up and get the crowd going, as it creates positivity in his game. Putting it down to bad manners, just shows your toffee-nosed ignorance of what any sport played at high-level is all about - attitude and self belief!!

I sincerely hope us 'dour' Scots (as you are so fond of calling us), gain our independence. Then we'll see who is dour when the revenue from North Sea oil goes into Scottish and not English coffers.
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J.A.,

03/07/2008 12:02:53
Some very good posts here, unfortunately the likes of #23 have just demonstrated a total lack of understanding about what it actually takes to be as good as he is.
At this moment he is capable of beating every tennis player in the whole world apart from two. Not to be content with that, he is working tirelessly to improve his game.
Well done Andy Murray!!
Oh yes #23 “all his mates were out groping girls' t1ts and trying their damndest to get laid....but Andy grew up in a capsule with spiderman comics”. Well if that’s what it takes to be a top sports star with a very tidy girl friend. Well done Judy Murray!!
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faddy,

germany 03/07/2008 12:16:05
Rather lose as a Scot as win as a Brit.
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Shaken,

03/07/2008 12:31:45
#23
Lets put things in perspective. Nadal gave Federer a complete lesson in the French final. He can make almost any player look foolish and the anti Scots sentiment on here should appreciate that AM has something Henman can only dream of....

Cojones.

When you look at the other quarter finals you can see Murray had a tough ask and anyone watching could see he was sluggish. The boy from Dunblane done good the once a year tennis fans should grab a raquet and see how difficult the game is!
38

Shaken,

03/07/2008 12:40:43
#33

Coleen you empty headed bimbo. If you can grasp the end of a tennis raquet without the opposable thumb please beat yourself over the head until you realise this is tennis.

There are no leagues in tennis there are tournaments and AM just got to the last 8 - top 8 in the whole world. The 'premiership' is an English only league related to football.

Try watching the Olympics - there are many other sports played in a vareity of different formats. This should widen your understanding of the world in general..
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Phil the Flooter,

03/07/2008 12:42:33
#37 surely the Anti Scots posts are a response to the torrent of Anti English posts here over the past few days.

So much hate. -its only a game FFS
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Kenny76,

Edinburgh 03/07/2008 12:45:10
Shaken - "in a different league" is a figure of speech you numpty!!
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 12:48:36
GugaII. You are a nasty vindictive individual,what a sad life you are going to have,because there is not a chance in h-ll of Scotland getting it's independence,your septic tongue does neither you or Scotland any favours.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 12:50:43
#18 were you drunk?? "good for the English to support Murray" - yer havin' a laugh!. The cheers for Nadal were much louder than those for Murray as they entered the court. The English didn't support Murray, they're at least as biased against their Scottish 'British' neighbours as some Scots are against the English. Let's not kid ourselves, the English don't support the Scots in anything, not even when they're supposed to be British, so Andy please lose the Union Rag & stick with your Scottish supporters, it's all the support you're going to get. Just ask Gordon Brown.
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AD in sunny Livingston,

03/07/2008 12:55:45
The anti-Scottish sentiment was very obvious in the forums of the English news sites over the last few days. It's very sad and unnecessary.

Life is far too short, too many people fighting children dying needlessly. Live life and let others enjoy their time on earth. AM is certainly making the most of his.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:01:30
42. That my racist friend is a damn lie,think you will find the english support scottish sports men/women a whole lot better than scotland supporting england.
45

AJ Fife,

03/07/2008 13:02:34
Betty Mk2#41,

Hi there doll! Still dishing oot the love then??

Are you sure you're not kimba?
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:04:26
#44 racist?? you tw*t - there's not a racist word/sentiment in my comment, learn to read then read it again. And you're spouting guff about the English supporting Scots, there's no evidence of it at all.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:05:42
#44 nice wind up though!...
48

Scotland to prosper...,

03/07/2008 13:05:53
I couldn't believe it last night watching ITV news @ 10. Prior to yesterdays match he was "Britain's no.1" and was "Britain’s hope". Last night he was referred to twice as the "Scot" and not once as "British".

Unbelievable, I used to think all that "Triumphant Brit" and "Defeated Scot" was all paranoia, not after watching last nights news.

Utterly pathetic.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:06:35
43. This is a minority group,the majority of English people will give their whole hearted support to who ever was representing GB
50

Celtic Fan Steven,

03/07/2008 13:06:36
Who feels stupid now, showing off that poor excuse for a biscep the other day!

TW@T!
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:14:06
46. Would you call your mother a tw-t,no,then don't call me one. You obviouly have a problem relating to England and it's people,get help.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:16:39
AJ. sorry,i am not kimba,is this kimba male or female?
53

Scunner,

Ellon 03/07/2008 13:21:50
Serves Murray right for selling out and trying to be British rather than Scottish. GIRFUY!
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veryoldbluefan,

Borehamwood 03/07/2008 13:25:34
Well done Andy! I believe that you did yourself and your support proud.

Yes, you have to improve on your 1st and 2nd serves. Yes, you have to learn to serve and volley when its required and not stick to the baseline. Yes, you have to be more aggressive when necessary as you did against Gasquet and advised by McEnroe. But all in all, your physical and mental strength have shown vast improvement. And despite your age, you are still learning to be positive in your tennis.

Good luck.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:28:08
just did call you a tw*t, TW*AT!!!!!...
And I would call my mother that if she spouted the rubbish you do.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:28:38
comment at #55 was of course in reply to #51
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:29:59
#48 you're absolutely spot on, it's pathetic, feeble but it is what happens.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:31:22
53. Are you a anglophobic? Andy Murray is a fine young man who support ALL of his country not just the part he was born in, i.e Great Britain.
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veryoldbluefan,

Borehamwood 03/07/2008 13:32:30
Well done Andy! I believe that you did yourself and your support proud.

Yes, you have to improve on your 1st and 2nd serves. Yes, you have to learn to serve and volley when its required and not stick to the baseline. Yes, you have to be more aggressive when necessary as you did against Gasquet and advised by McEnroe. But all in all, your physical and mental strength have shown vast improvement. And despite your age, you are still learning to be positive in your tennis.

Good luck.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:36:09
55. Then you need your mouth washing out with carbolic soap, and you are a racist,anglophobic to be precise.
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RubberMaid,

Edinburgh 03/07/2008 13:42:33
#2 GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?

Boring north /south rubbish. BTW Croatia is similar in size to Scotland (by population) but you don't hear them using that tired old excuse. How do they manage to produce top players in football, basketball, tennis, waterpolo...year after year without a massive public purse?

The real problem for Scotland isn't the lack of potential sporting talent, no, rather the generations of corrupt, incompetent civil servants with no ambition for their country. They are the ones preventing our schools from getting decent sporting facilities or investing in free public sports facilities. I say get rid of the 'lifers' in the civil service and their quango buddies and hire in decent people that have honest intentions. Maybe then we will get sports facilities for the unprivileged to practice in.


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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:43:01
#55 c'mon lizzie, you need to look up a dictionary to see what racist means. Also, once again, read the comment & please point out the racist comments/words. I'm not anglophobic, I'm part English, but I am not so stupid as to think that the English mean the scots well, just look at history and read the newspapers, not a day goes by without some anti-Scottish stuff, particularly in the Mail. Battling Brit became defeated Scot overnight, didn't you see the news???
63

Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:47:23
#61 Scotland's sports (& other) achievements are much greater than Croatia's, just check the record books. Croatia have a decent football team and had a decent tennis player but that doesn't take them near to Scotland's overall record, despite the parity in size. Also, the comments above weren't about a 'boring' north/south divide but about the anti-Scottish attitudes aimed at Murray and manifested in the newspapers and tv coverage.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:48:59
62. Now lets get this straight,since when did newscasters/newspapers speak for the peaple of England,answer, NEVER,so dismount your high horse and believe me when i say england support who ever represents GB.
65

Bob M,

Paisley 03/07/2008 13:51:48
Hard luck Andy, but you had an excellent Wimbledon. Hopefully it will result in a higher seeding and an easier draw next year.

Your achievements in the game so far should not be underestimated. When was the last time a Scottish footballer could be called one of the world's best players?

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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:53:01
63. btw. We wanted to send a GB football team to the olympics,but scotland blocked it. why?
67

Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 13:53:21
#60 I'm off to get the soap lizzie, although I feel a bit miffed about you giving me such hard treatment because I would call my mum a twit.....

I even graced your comment by addressing it with the number on my comment (55 instead of 60), you really rocked me with your wild & inaccurate accusations of racism and whatever else.
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Cockerel,

Aberdeen 03/07/2008 13:58:02
#65 very true. How many sportsmen/women from any part of Britain can be said to be be in the top few in the World. To be ranked 11th in the World is fantastic. Henman was I think for quite a while, no 4 in the World but was still usually referred to as an also-ran. How many footballers from these islands could be said to have been in the top 11 in the World? At present, none. Rooney probably the best player but would struggle to be in the top 11. Last Scot maybe Dalglish, but even then, only a maybe. So, Murray should be congratulated on doing so well. I did think he looked a little like a rabbit caught in the headlights, so maybe there is still some work to do on confidence. Hopefully he will keep improving.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 13:59:16
67. Good,if any of my children called me a tw-t,(and it wasn't a twit you called me) and they are both married now,they would both get a thick ear,manners cost nothing,and please don't call me "lizzie".
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KeithD,

Fife 03/07/2008 14:05:02
41 Don't worry we will get our independence and people like you can go and build your life in that place called England.Andy Murray = Bought and sold for English gold.
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RubberMaid,

Edinburgh 03/07/2008 14:06:48
#63 We can find fault in anything if we wanted to but that just leaves emptiness and misery. The majority of British athletes and sports personalities who are also Scottish have so far eluded or been spared the so called anti-Scottish attitude you want to believe exists.

You're right though, Scotland has done very well at sports. Sadly little is done to publicise the top Scottish athletes in sports other than football. Nevertheless, to extend the pool of potential talent (beyond private sector schools) there has to be local government investment.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 14:07:50
#69 ok lizzie. It must be your dirty mind that thought I said anything else.....and if manners cost nothing why don't you get some? And anybody trying to give me a thick ear would get a lot worse back so no veiled threats please (note the manners & learn).
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 14:12:27
#66 it was blocked by the Scots because it was clearly English self interest designed to market the London Olympics (they could only participate in the football as GB) and because the SFA had been told by FIFA that it would jeopardize the independence of the SFA, meaning they might not be able to compete as Scotland in other football events. Ireland also blocked it because they also clearly saw the self interest involved and the potential threat.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 14:18:30
#71 I don't 'want to believe' it exists, I just accept reality. Open your eyes and ears and you'll see & hear it. Unfortunate but true.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 14:19:52
72. You were obviously not taught manners,respect your elders, and please take your self opinionated dribble else where.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 14:22:55
74. You could find fault with the pope,your bigoted comments are designed to cause conflict.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 14:23:52
73.What threat?
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 14:26:57
#75 ok lizzie, where would you like me to take you? I assume you're the "dribble" (did you mean to type 'drivel?) you're referring to??
Self-opinionated?? hah hah hah, you're a laugh. So whose opinion is it you enter here, must be somebody else's if it's not yours..... Dumbwit (polite version).
Bye liz, I'm looking forward to that wonderful carbolioc flavouring, lightly salted of course.
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Exasperated,

Guildford 03/07/2008 14:28:39
#77 your implied threat of a thick ear, you beastly person. Must go now, got work to do, been nice trading opinions/insults/ whatever else with you. Bye.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 15:10:43
78/79. If you dislike England so much,f--k off back to scotland.
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Delboy29,

03/07/2008 15:17:03
Exasperated/Elizabeth

Get a room, sort out your 'frustrations' and stop clodding up this site!
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Joanna,

Cambs, England 03/07/2008 15:26:34
I thought Andy played well, he got in some good first serves, he was just overwhelmed by a stronger player who is close to or right at the top of his form. Nadal, himself said that Andy could make the top 5 in the world ranking, that's good!!

I think Andy's self belief wavered a little yesterday but I think he will learn from this and come back stronger. He certainly didn't sound demoralised after the match, he was taking the positives from it. Others should do the same.

For me, it is now Rafa Nadal for champion, he is a great and inspiring player to watch. My young son thought tennis was a bit 'girly' until he watched Rafa and now he thinks its cool. Hey I could have a future Wimbledon champion on my hands! A bit English, a bit Scots, a bit Irish and some Ukraninan in the mix, he'll get United Nations support! :)
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 15:51:56
79. Always wanted a toy boy,LOL.
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 15:57:14
82. No way,federer is still on top.
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AJ Fife,

03/07/2008 16:04:53
Joanna#82,

Nice assessment of the match!:)

Quite an international mix for your son, did you work for the UN? ;)
86

Joanna,

Cambs, England 03/07/2008 16:45:56
Thanks AJ :)

You're a cheeky divil tho' sometimes :D

Actually, the score wasn't as bad as it could have been and certainly not as low as when Nadal beat Federer to win the French Open last month, one of those sets was 6.0. That was on clay and not grass of course but Nadal certainly seems to have improved on grass!

It was good to see the respect that Nadal and Murray had for one another as well.
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AJ Fife,

03/07/2008 16:51:14
Joanna,

Indeed, the fact that Nadal dished out a thrashing to Federer seems to be missed by some. In fact I reckon most anti-Murray posters wouldn't have known who even contested the French, if you asked them!!

Scotland's No1 will be back to his brilliant best very soon.
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Ribbonman,

03/07/2008 17:05:07
82 Joanna. When can I take you out to dinner?
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elizabeth the first ,

03/07/2008 17:06:06
87. When will you grow-up, what a small minded little punk you are.
90

Nigel's brother,

Surrey 03/07/2008 17:38:53
6-3 6-3 6-4
HeeHee HeeHee HeeHee
91

Nigel's brother,

Surrey 03/07/2008 17:41:48
Weary?! Weedy, more like!
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AD in sunny Livingston,

03/07/2008 17:58:52
#s90&91 - don't seem to remember you - when did you qualify for Wimbledon.

For that matter - what have you ever achieved?

Shouldn't really be throwing stones in that glass house of your's.
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Nigel's brother,

Cardiff 03/07/2008 19:18:04
Hoots mon, where's yer trousers!
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bus user,

edinburgh 03/07/2008 22:51:45
Oh Dear! Adolescent after his time, Mummy's youngest boy Andy does his best, and I mean his best, against a real tennis player, and loses. No disgrace, but all of the English backlash is well deserved - someone should have got a hold of him and spelled out the realities of dealing with the media before he delivered his diatribe about 'anybody but England'. Very unbecoming, even in the light of our current Scoto-cratic view of the world. I was delighted to watch his Lazarus' do on Monday, but last night was inevitable. All positive thoughts now on Jamie.

 

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