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Celtic new boy Robson recalls the day he got serious about football



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Published Date: 02 February 2008
WHEN Barry Robson stepped out in front of just 397 spectators at Station Park in October 1999 to play for Forfar Athletic against Dumbarton, a month short of his 21st birthday, he underwent a rebirth as both a person and a footballer.
It was the day it dawned on the midfielder, who had been released by Rangers two years earlier without making the first team breakthrough at Ibrox, that he was underachieving woefully in a game he was treating as little more than a hobby.

It was t
he day which set Robson on the path to the £1.25 million transfer from Dundee United to Celtic he concluded on Thursday night and has him contemplating the prospect of playing against Barcelona in the last 16 of the Champions League later this month.

It is a quantum leap from when he was loaned out to Forfar in the third division by Inverness Caledonian Thistle, but Robson's arrival at the SPL champions is no fairytale. It is simply a story of a talented footballer coming to his senses and dedicating himself to being the best he can possibly be on and off the pitch.

"When I was at Rangers, I just enjoyed a laugh, I didn't really understand what it was about," said Robson yesterday as he was formally unveiled as a Celtic player at a media conference at Parkhead.

"I didn't understand what I could achieve in the game at that time, I didn't really take football that seriously. I wasn't a bad lad or anything like that, I just didn't appreciate how good football could be for you.

"But when I got to around 20 I realised that I could really do something with my career. I went out on loan to Forfar and that's when a switch went off inside my head and I thought 'wait a minute Barry, you're better than this'. I suddenly knew my career could go a lot further than that. The Inverness manager at that time (Steve Paterson) felt it would help my maturity to go to Forfar and it did. I went down to the third division, did well, and took it from there. That's when I got my head down, started working hard and made sure I got back to the top.

"It took me a lot of years to get back to where I wanted to be, but I eventually got there. It's just been through pure hard work and having a good family around me. I've worked hard at my game, staying behind after training every day and working longer than other people.

"I've only just turned 29 and I've looked after myself well. I've lived my life right and that will hopefully help me play on well into my 30s. Every pre-season I come back, I feel stronger and better. That's just down to eating and drinking the right things.

"It has been unbelievable hard work to get to where I am now, but it's going to be even harder to stay there. I look forward to the challenge at Celtic and I believe I can do well here."

Robson, ineligible for today's Scottish Cup fifth round tie at Kilmarnock, can expect to make his Celtic debut next weekend when his new club resume the defence of their SPL title against Aberdeen at Pittodrie.

He is confident he can adapt quickly to the demands which surround an Old Firm player. "I won't be overawed by it," he said. "I know what it's like to play at Parkhead, although I don't know what it's like to play here for Celtic. It's better playing in front of 60,000 people than in front of six. If you don't have that ambition to better yourself and move on to a higher level, then I don't think there is any point being a football player. I told Craig Levein that at the time I signed my last contract with Dundee United. They are a fantastic club, but I wanted to play at the highest level possible.

"This is a big leap in terms of the size and prestige of the club I'm joining, but Dundee United are still a big club and I had a bit of added pressure there as captain. Hopefully that will stand me in good stead for coming here."

Celtic manager Gordon Strachan is hopeful Robson can emulate the success Scott McDonald has enjoyed with the champions since joining them from Motherwell last summer.

"It's the same situation, a player coming from another Scottish club," said Strachan. "We give them a chance to see if they can adapt to the pressure of playing for this club. Barry has been in our face since I came here two and a half years ago. He's been annoying me for two and a half years and I thought, that's enough, well get him along here."

Of the five players Strachan added to his squad during the January transfer window, only loan signing Georgios Samaras is likely to feature against Kilmarnock today. The injured Andreas Hinkel joins the cup-tied Robson on the sidelines, while 20-year-old English striker Ben Hutchinson and 22-year-old Japanese winger Koki Mizuno will not be rushed into first team action.

Meanwhile, Celtic have offloaded Poland striker Maciej Zurawski to Greek side Larissa.

Zurawski scored 30 goals in 73 appearances after signing from Wisla Krakow in the summer of 2005. He did not score in eight appearances during this campaign, which was again interrupted by niggling injuries.

The Poland skipper was keen to move on to get regular football after being warned by international coach Leo Beenhakker his place in the Euro 2008 squad was in jeopardy.

Ford focuses on turning tables as Killie target upset

SIMON Ford has been on the receiving end of cup shocks, now he wants Kilmarnock to cause one.

Kilmarnock face Scottish Cup holders Celtic in the fifth round at Rugby Park today and Ford knows if his side can progress to the last eight it will be a major surprise.

Kilmarnock crashed out of this season's CIS Insurance Cup to Hamilton and last year were humbled by Morton in the Scottish Cup.

Now Ford wants to create cup upset headlines of his own against Celtic.

Ford said: "We've been on the receiving end of cup shocks but it would definitely be nice to cause one. We go and try to win every game and it would certainly be a big scalp if we beat Celtic.

"We know it'll be a tough game but we're at home and the onus is on us to attack. It'll probably be a more open game and hopefully we can cause an upset for once."

Ford revealed Killie's squad held talks following their SPL defeat to Dundee United and that brought the squad together ahead of their fourth-round clash with Airdrie.

He said: "We needed a victory and to get a clean sheet was good. We had clear-the-air talks on Sunday when the players and the manager said what they had to say."



The full article contains 1194 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 01 February 2008 10:27 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Celtic FC , Kilmarnock FC
 
1

KingKenny,

02/02/2008 00:47:29
Robson stay SPL is good..But he is 29 and Celtic have many good players..If he fail..That is big bad..Alan Gow and Kirk Broadfoot, Derek Riordan not play game..Paul Hartley not play many game his position. LB is big funny (But he play fine)

anyway Robson will replace Jiri Jarosik..but McGeady and Mizuno big strong competitor and Donati and Sno is weaker..but Robson will not play many games..
2

KingKenny,

02/02/2008 00:50:22
Zurawski leave is not good..I think he can Help Hearts..but Hearts not think him...If hearts end Ricardas Beniušis loan..They can sign Zurawski..but They not think Zurawski...and Graham Dorrans too..Hearts need consider England league fail Former SPL And Scotland Players.
3

jerrymanders,

Hearts no more, neither King Kenny. 02/02/2008 00:54:07
KingKenny, Hearts fan, enough is enough. The joke is over, just like Vlad.
4

Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 02/02/2008 01:11:34
Barry you have sold yourself and your football days to an early end.Enjoy your dosh and your place on the bench with the ex hibbies.I hope not but I think you put dosh before your playing career.
To see the smug wee GS on the TV with you just reminds us all of the good Scottish players who have taken the O.F. road to nowhere.Bye Bye Barry.Enjoy your new house and your big Telly.
5

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 02/02/2008 01:54:58
I have to say that I am not overly excited about Strachans signings once again, we will have to wait and see.

As for the rest of Scottish football, well!
6

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 02/02/2008 01:55:02
I have to say that I am not overly excited about Strachans signings once again, we will have to wait and see.

As for the rest of Scottish football, well!
7

Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 02:05:03
I wonder which Rangers reject WGS will sign next? I understand Maurice Ross is looking for a club.
8

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 02:06:56
as its egg chasing week for the "chaps" who think that sport is that mucky tabloid with big boobs in,we are relegated to the second tier again...That aside,better to be on the bench,with the prospect of getting a game at a club that will win silverware than on the bench at a no mark club that wont play you unless your name ends in kaus etc...
9

Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 02:13:16
Swordsman, just been out for a wee swally and looking for a message board where it's all happening, sadly this aint it...do you know one?
10

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 02:19:11
Sorry mate...The Hootsmon has reverted to type...All the sport is about rugby..preserve of lawyers,Accountants and doctors everywhere...DULL! DULL! DULL!
11

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 02:20:37
BTW are you a Bay City Rouleur...?Shang-a-lang!!
12

Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 02:22:52
22" tartan bell bottoms..ye cannae beat 'em
13

Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 02:23:42
Where's the usual suspects? Looking for methadone or banned?
14

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 02:26:51
Anyway..loved the "Road to Damascas" story regarding Robson...Hopefully the guy will do what all championship winning teams need...pitching in with 10-15 goals from midfield.....
15

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 02:27:23
ITS FRIDAY NIGHT......WORK IT OUT!!
16

Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 02:29:14
Swordsman..I had a good bucket tonight and am back for the chat by 2am...you telling me these naughty miscreants are still on tha lash and they haven't invited us...shame on them
17

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 02:30:26
#12...Remember they were called "Skinners"...don't know why though...!
18

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 02:32:25
Had a few scoops meself tonight at home..but working the morra so have to stay semi-sensible until the usual suspects turn up at least!
19

CaliforniaBhoy,

02/02/2008 03:08:33
In a recent survey, Ranger's supporters have proved to be the most likely to have had sex in the shower!

In the survey, carried out for leading toiletries firm "Brut",

a whopping 86% of the Ranger's supporters said that they have enjoyed sex in the shower.

The other 14% said they hadn't been to prison ... yet.
20

CaliforniaBhoy,

02/02/2008 03:09:39
Couldn't resist!!!! :-))
21

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 02/02/2008 03:13:56
The above router guy talks about celtic taking rangers rejects, no that rangers can afford anyone, skint. But big Bad John Hartson was he no one of they rejects, I seem to remember hin putting the ball in their net and winning the games on many many occasion!
22

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:16:37
Ah Swordsman The laddie who thinks he is Irish but born and bred in Glasgow.
Also the eejit who thinks that its the ugly sisters right to all the cream of the SPL.
Well what crap are spouting tonight laddie
23

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:21:07
USA HOBO..Top 'o' the mornin to ya!That chip on your shoulder is getting rather large...brush it off and hae some salt 'n' sauce oan it ,ken.....
24

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:26:13
ah salt and sauce... love it but nowt over here.
Now where were we.. oh yes about you being Irish..Explain that one again please.
25

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:32:19
Let me give you a wee lesson here ...My G parents were Irish..moved to Scotland..My parents were born in Scotland,as was I..Proud to be Scots/Irish What's the prob? You support HIBERNIAN ffs....Are you in denial of your heritage, or just at the wind up?
26

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:39:11
still looking it up on Google..? C'mon son, get with the programme!
27

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:39:50
No denial. I am a proud SCOT. You on the other hand want it both ways. Your grandparents are Irish and your parents Scottish and you are Scottish. You seem to have an obvious affection to Ireland but you URNIE Irish.
As for me supporting Hibernian yes very true and i know of their Irish origins and the fact Hibs got Sellick started.
But i don`t profess to be something i am not. You on the other hand are a wannabe. Scots/Irish is like the wannabe`s here Irish/American when they are American.
Your turn
28

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:42:48
Ah!I see....You are catatonic due to the amount of hot dogs/burgers consumed in the lead up to the SUPERBOWEL....
Song moment...John Cougar Mellencamp..."Ain't That America..."
29

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:45:53
ok song title for you now.
If your Irish come into the parlour
Your no so stay oot
30

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:47:17
K mate...get it...You are far from home and feeling all Braveheartish...Nout wrong with that but to expect others to conform to your "Black and White" ideas on racial lineage is a wee bit suspect....last time someone did that there was a world war...
31

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:50:42
Embra version..."If your Irish,come into the parlour...You'll have had your tea?"
32

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:52:15
Oh come on now your just acting the goat.
That`s rich coming from a sellick supporter.
They and Rankers spewing oot the sectarian bile to anyone who listens.
Oh by the way i am a Proddie.
So why do i support Hibs?
Because i like football not religion.
Can you say the same ?
Truth now.
33

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:52:49
reckon you got barred from an Irish boozer for trying to sing "Cap in Hand" at the Karaoke.....;@)
34

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:53:56
liked that lol.
Glesgie version: If your Irish.... What school did you go to.
35

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:55:36
Naw just got Scotland yard for singing.
Am tone deaf
36

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:56:51
But no half daft
37

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 03:57:10
If you have read my posts on many threads in the last year,you will know that I abhor bigotry and division.I am a Celtic fan and make NO apology for that.Having many friends who are 'gers fans (even in Dublin!)keeps it real...after all its only a game...What do you think?
38

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:57:59
Still waiting for an answer to my question on #32
39

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 03:59:58
Yes its a game but it stops when you yourself said yesterday that the ugly sisters keep Scottish football alive. Want to retract?
40

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 04:07:08
on #32...Im a footie fan first and foremost.As an athiest I cant comment on the role religion plays in football (just like 2million scottish men!)I just want
see the game...

#39..An inescapable fact the the OF drives Scottish football...buying the likes of Brown,Riordan,whittaker,Caldwell etc...Go further back to Goram,Dougie BellCollins etc so its no secret...
41

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 04:16:51
Let me explain the errors of your thinking.
If the ugly sisters went to Engurland.
YES the others clubs in Scotland would feel the pinch in the first couple of seasons. There after when the competitive nature of the league would draw the crowds back to the clubs, Revenue increases, crowds increase,more level playing field for all concerned.
Champions League would also help us less financially embarrassed clubs.The UEFA games would gather money also.
So your point is that we need you?
I think not.
Sorry for the delay
42

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 04:20:02
While i am on about Engurland .
How do you think you would do in EPL.
43

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 04:25:51
In an ideal world that might be the case,but the bottom line is that the OF provide much of the revenue that keeps smaller clubs alive via gate money/tv rights etc...PLEASE believe me,I am not having a go, but that's the situation as it stands,Best example I can think of was a OF reserve game a couple of years ago that attracted more than the ENTIRE 1st,2nd and 3rd division ....thats the way it works,Im afraid.
44

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 04:26:58
Mid table..on our day we would beat anybody...but its a marathon rather than a sprint...
45

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 04:31:16
addendum to #43...Could many Scottish clubs survive for a couple of years until the new regime was up and running?Hmmnn!
46

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 04:31:35
Yes but surely you don`t think Scottish Football would just curl up and die do you.
To think that is like the English Media thinking Engurland are going to win every World Cup ...totally unbelievable.
47

USA Hibee,

brandon 02/02/2008 04:32:50
Right bud i will check back for your answer.
Am off see ya the morra
48

Swordsman,

Dublin 02/02/2008 04:34:39
Dont think it will die but it might smell funny for a couple of years...TaTa...
49

Auntiehun,

Fortress Ibrox...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 02/02/2008 07:48:18
So, £750k for Jarosik and £500K for majic, two fringe players not contributing, and we spend it on Robson who, if Strachan has any sense, will be an awesome left back in the mould of Stuart Pearce. If you also consider that they were both earning more than Robson will make then I think that is an excellent piece of business. Well done Celtic.

We then get Hutchinson and the Japanese kid, two young players with bags of talent, for next to nothing and big Samaras on loan, as well as a German International, who looks a real player, for a good fee...we are really looking strong now.
50

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02/02/2008 07:50:50
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51

Pax V,

02/02/2008 08:27:11
RANGERS

Ins:

Steven Davis (Fulham, loan); Neil Alexander (Ipswich Town, undisclosed); Christian Dailly (West Ham, free)

Outs:

Ugo Ehiogu (Sheffield United, free), Alan Hutton, defender (Tottenham Hotspur, £8m), Roy Carroll, goalkeeper (Derby, free), Cousin, striker (Fulham, £3M)

Good bit of "strengthening" there guys?

Is it true thon big Italian arranged to meet Wally & Bain in Milan and when they met them he sang "Hallo Hallo - you ARE the silly boys" and walked away?
52

Gdgy,

dndy 02/02/2008 08:43:31
Robson will get goals, create chances and is a natural left sided attacking midfielder - fits the bill for Celtic I'd say - I hope he gets his chance and makes himself a regular in the Scotland side
AND #49 - Robson is not a left back!!! We played Stewart Duff there rather than move Barry back! That says it all.....
53

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

02/02/2008 08:57:46
As expected, the lap-top loyal have been very restiscent about Rangers' humiliating expedition out to Genoa, with an entourage including Walter Smith, Martin Bain, medical staff and sundry hingers oan.

And for what ? A player who noone in serie a seems to want. Rangers fans must breathe a sigh of relief that the deal didn't go through, but at the same time, who wants to see their club being treated so shabbily in a blaze of publicity ?
This was a PR disaster for Rangers...it reads like a script for only fools and horses, and Rangers have been left the laughing stock of European football.

Well known for his media-savvy, Sir Minty has allowed a very embarressing own goal, and if it wasn't for the fact that that the Scottish press has nothing like the appetite to stick the boot into Rangers as it does to stick the boot into Celtic, we would all have been treated to a never ending, barbed, serialisation of the whole affair.
But Sir Minty's poodles are shrewd enough to know that sticking the boot into Rangers means less winalot in the bowl.

54

Boyne Bhoy,

Drogheda 02/02/2008 09:02:48
BR may not be a natural LB however if he has football technique he should be able to adapt and contribute there. Maybe Duff was moved because DUFC relied on BR's talents more than CFC will. Not a criticism of DUFC but a statement of reality given relative squad strength. PS Hope O'Brien does a job for you! (then comes back home).
55

Boyne Bhoy,

Drogheda 02/02/2008 09:16:31
Unfair to describe Rangers as the laughing stock of Europe. Nobody is interested in them, most Tic fans only give them any attention because they are in direct competition.

Always find it heartening travelling abroad when I meet footie fans-huge majority of foreign footie fans positive views of only one Glasgow based team. Wonder why that would be?

Success in internationally important tournaments?
Fans behaviour?
Scottish/Irish=celtic (note lack of capital letter!): e.g. Ask just about any German their favourite/ideal place and the answer is more often than note, 'ah ja, I love ze Highlands and Ireland mein freund' an then hike off to set up home in Sutherland or Kerry. If they are going to choose any team to have sympathy for it ain't going to be the Battle of Britain Appreciation Clubs-everyone's moved on....

There can only be one brand leader and that particular title ain't up for competition this year or indeed anytime soon.

Toodloo, off to feed Schmuck the cat and wander across town for the match after a spot of breakfast....


56

Wee Pal Joe,

02/02/2008 09:51:16
"As expected, the lap-top loyal have been very restiscent about Rangers' humiliating expedition out to Genoa" (53)

"Reticent" you mean? Headline on the back page of The Sun: "PASTA JOKE". A bit OTT if you ask me but that's The Sun for you (or rather, for those of you who don't buy into paranoid conspiracy theories).
57

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 02/02/2008 09:52:17
A wee ditty from the Vlad kickers

Blah, blah, Vlad sheep,
Have you any eyes
No sir, no sir
we swallow all his lies,
One about the manager,
Who'll have the final say,
Our season is now over
Its only January!

More verses welcome!


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Blah blah Vladsheep,
Have you any ears,
No sir, no sir,
I can't hear your fears,
Let's blame Stevie Frail,
Let's blame the team,
Let's not blame the little man,
Who shattered all our dreams.

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Blah Blah Vladsheep
Open your ****in eyes
you got rid of the man who sold the pies
replaced him with the russian
who claimed to be a banker
why cant you see
the mans a ****in w@@@@nker

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Blah blah Vladsheep,
Have you any sense,
No sir, no sir,
I am rather dense,
Vlad has a cunning plan,
Of that I have no doubt,
Let's just ignore the crock of s***
He regularly spouts.

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Blah Blah Vlad sheep
You are such a tool.
Let that little hitler
treat us all like fools.
Out of the scottish cup
and nowhere in the league
Stadium is still the same
So tell me what has changed!
__________________
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Blah, blah Vlad, sheep,
Are you really such a fool,
Yes sir yes sir,
VR really makes me drool,
with sand in my ears,
to dry up all the tears,
worst team i have seen in many ****ing years.
__________________
58

Waitin´and hopin,

02/02/2008 09:55:40
# 53 POS....Don´`t know what was embarrassing about the trip! But you´re right that the majority of Rangers fans are relieved, I for one didn´t know a lot about the player and the fact that no other Serie A club was interested casts dobts. Wait a minute , isn´t the same true of Donnutti ?! Well, lesson learned glad we kept our money!
59

Waitin´and hopin,

02/02/2008 09:57:24
56....saw Smith interview yesterday and it made sense to fly over in the private jet and speak to the boy. This is not an option to the Beggers as Ryanair don´t go there.
60

Lennon is King,

bothwell 02/02/2008 10:04:28
#59
too much to take,my sides have literally split open with your wit.
61

It's only a game,

Musselburgh 02/02/2008 10:06:06
And their's more

Bla bla Vlad sheep,
You've really got some baws,
Despite this circus pantomime,
You keep behind the cause,

But they kickers ain't much better,
wi' their fickle ragin' rants,
The one thing that we all concur,
Oor team is ****in; pants!
__________________
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Blah Blah vladsheep
Burley was the man
Getting sacked for drinking was such a ****in sham
We liked Rix and Valdas
And we like Stephen Frail
But with this management team we’re bound to ****in fail

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Blah Blah Vladsheep,
Have you any life !
No sir no sir I want to be his wife !
I suck on his **** !
And suck on his toe,
And canny handle anyone that tells him where to go !

62

Bosco Bhoy,

Donegal 02/02/2008 10:07:42
59 waitin

So you do admit that RFC under Mr Smith were looking in to the prospect of signing a fella many of their fans did not deem good enough?

Strange! i thought the messiah that is Mr smith could do no wrong.
63

Waitin´and hopin,

02/02/2008 10:16:47
# 62..Not at all, raed the post.I said I didn´t know anything about the guy but I accept that Smith and his backroom satff have a better insight than me. Good to see you acknowledge his position as MESSIAH
64

Boyne Bhoy,

Drogheda 02/02/2008 10:24:44
Ah, Mr Murray's fabled jet-at least he's consistently anti Green: arranging pointless journeys across Europe. Truly the Rangers way I suppose.

Anyway, you can fly to both Genoa and Brescia from London Stansted on Ryanair, frugal Celtic simply didn't think he was worth the effort.

Allegedly the Cardigan King has been after this guy for years and enquired at the opening of the window but waited till the window was almost back on the latch before travelling-really desperate to get his man? If not why did he travel at all??
65

Waitin´and hopin,

02/02/2008 10:28:03
Presumably he waited to see the situation with Cousin and Hutton....i.e. money, similar to what Chesney did with Robson, waited til he got the 750m k for jiri.
66

Reasoned Debate,

02/02/2008 10:36:02
Barry, You have been bought to dilute the opposition in line with most of the other signing the OF make from SPL clubs.
It's quite simple really: You wont get a game !!
67

Bosco Bhoy,

02/02/2008 10:37:07
63 waitin

You cant have it both ways.

You are delighted your club didnt sign him but obvisiouly Murray and Smith did want to sign him.

So tell me who's judgment should we ignore, yours or the senior people at Ibrox?
68

Bosco Bhoy,

02/02/2008 10:39:36
66 reasoned, maybe not

He will get a game if he merits his inclusion into the team via his application and ability. You only have to look at Scott McDonald to see what a player coming from a smaller club can do it at CP. Deeks should follow his example instead of clubbing it every fecking weekend.
69

Bosco Bhoy,

02/02/2008 10:46:12
reasoned debate

all you chip on the shoulder brigade that follow the other clubs in the SPL should be happy that Celtic and Rangers have needed to downsize their financial spending in recent years. Many of the 'local' lads playing for both clubs would have hardly been good enough for the reserves 10 years ago. Think of the many thousands CFC and RFC pump into Scottish football via the purchasing of players form these clubs.

Currently you have the best of both worlds- you sell us, often mediocre players for significant sums and since we no longer buy the same volume of foreign talnet you can sometimes give us a game.
70

paulmac,

surrey 02/02/2008 10:47:31
#63

Could nobody pick up the phone at Ibrox...and just save everbody the time and effort?
71

paulmac,

surrey 02/02/2008 10:51:32
#69...Bosco

Lets not forget the away support money they rely on so heavily!
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paulmac,

surrey 02/02/2008 10:54:39
#69

Or the TV revenue brought in!

Each team I understand get 7.5 % of the revenuE generated in Celtic selling the games to Japan!
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 11:10:50
#70 Nah I reckon they fancied a wee jaunt to Milan in Sir David's private jet.
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paulmac,

surrey 02/02/2008 11:18:00
#73...Rouleur

Fair enough....

I was beginning to think...maybe Minty had asked Wattie to take baldy bain out to be dealt with by the cosa nostra?
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Bosco Bhoy,

Donegal 02/02/2008 11:22:57
Rouleur 73

"I reckon they fancied a wee jaunt to Milan in Sir David's private jet"

I was going to say 'hope RFC are not repeating the decadent mistakes of yesteryear as we both know where that got RFC' but then i thought no we dont actually know what the consequences of that era are, do we?
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 11:25:04
Paulmac, Bain most probably used the opportunity to punt some timeshares..the man looks like a second hand car salesman.

Anyway how many are you going to put past Killie today? I reckon Samaras will score a barrowload up here, he's a quality player and I wish we'd signed him.
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 11:27:36
Bosco...are you Al Gore in disguise? Are you saying Sir David's galivanting in his lear Jet is harming the environment? Well I am sure if you looked at the carbon emissions Nakamura has clocked up going back to Japan since coming to Scotland far outweighs a wee spin in the flugzeug for a spot of window shopping.
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Bosco Bhoy,

02/02/2008 11:28:19
Rouleur

Did you know that Rangers chairman David Murray is the fifth richest person in Scotland with £750m.

However Dermot Desmond is estimated to be worth €2.121 billion and is ranked 5th on the Irish Rich List and 746 among 'The World's Richest People'.[1]

I wonder how many private jets Mr Desmond has.

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Bosco Bhoy,

02/02/2008 11:32:06
Rouleur

This could be a first on this forum- you a RFC fan think a fella CFC has signed is good player were i think, based on what i saw of him in his Man City days is a bit of a dud. Granted he may be able to shine in the SPL but im not overly excited about him to tell the truth.

My earlier comments were less to do with the damage to the environment but more to do with damage to RFC finances. It was meant as a bit of craic, you know.
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 11:32:11
Bosco, he most probably owns his own airline also as for a while the canny man owned City Airport. Why doesn't he lay one on for his window shopping? Or is the habit of meeting in the fine fare car park too hard to shift?
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paulmac,

surrey 02/02/2008 11:35:07
Rouleur

He might if he isn't one of those 6 foot 5 forwards that jumps 5 foot 9...

Had to laugh...as he entered Fir Park last week...a reporter asked him a question...as he turned to answer...he kept walking....thud...head butted the top of the door frame....

He has to be more mobile than Jan.

Killie has always been a difficult ground to get a solid result for both Celtic and Rangers....and I don't see today being any different.
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 11:36:37
Bosco, I don't know Samaara granted did have an abysmal time in Manchester but lets be honest the whole team did under Pearce and even with all their dodgy $$ from that Thai guy they still lack a quality striker who'll bang in 20 a season. Samaras did the business at Heerenveen, he's young, big and a real handful. Would have been a perfect replacement for that diddy Cousin.
RFC finances..yeah oil is nearly $100 a barrel almost doubling in the last year. Would have been better saving it as it was a silly trip.
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 11:40:15
PaulMac, ouch, I once did that getting off a prop plane, fecking sore. Also once fell down the steps of a plane at Chambery, I to this day still blame the slippery conditions and nothing to do with the fact I had consumed half a bottle of vodka before I got on the flight.

3-0 Celtic is my prediction with Samaras and Robson on the scoresheet.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

02/02/2008 11:40:52
Has Rugby Park survived today's pitch inspection?

I'm looking forward to this one. I expect a big performance from Celtic. With Barcelona almost certain to put an end to their CL campaign, and Rangers now firm favourites for the SPL title, it's fair to say that the Scottish Cup represents their best prospect of a trophy this season, and their most obvious means of escaping a barren season.

It may not be easy though. Kilmarnock were very unlucky to go down to a freak own goal at CP a few weeks ago, and also drew there back on opening day, so a home match with Celtic will hold few fears for them.

Should be no place for the faint-hearted.
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 11:47:15
BE, I dunno Killie are mince. I might have a wee punt on them getting relegated. That result at the start of the season was with Naismith who was an irritant to the Celtic defence that day sadly they lack any cutting edge up front. Killie will be pumped.
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 11:49:10
Pitch apparently is in pefect condition.

Jim Jeffries has just said "the park will make for a great footballing game"

Gordo Strach says " the pitch is fantastic, give the groundsman the Groundsman of the Year award now"

Mon the hoops
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 11:50:27
Rouler

Robson is cup tied and isnt playing.

I reckon 2-0...Naka and McD...

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BEMUSED EXILE,

02/02/2008 11:54:49
Rouleur.

Good tactic to talk Killie down as much as possible. It just gives us so much more leverage for ridicule if they turn around and dump Celtic.

It's the Cup, though. They're the home team and they're up for it, so I think it will be competitive. Celtic should edge it, however. They'll be absolutely desperate to lift this trophy so they should be able to match Killie's level of desire.
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 11:57:30
jeffries has never beaten celtic as killie boss...

celtic have the greatest scottish cup record in the entire history of the tournament...we are also the holders...

2-0 the hoops

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BEMUSED EXILE,

02/02/2008 12:00:32
"celtic have the greatest scottish cup record in the entire history of the tournament"

Is that a pompous way of reminding us that they've won it a couple of times more than Rangers?

Too bad that the reverse is true, and more emphatically so, for both the League Championship and the League Cup...
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:00:48
oh oh...ref is Ian Brines...a policeman...

Maybe Killie have a chance afterall...
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:03:13
BE you just cant help yourself can you?

I used to throw you bait and smile when you bit. Now I don't even have to try.

song moment - here comes that 19th nervous breakdown...by the fabulous Rolling Stones.

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BEMUSED EXILE,

02/02/2008 12:05:28
No worries Tim.

I'm just pleased that Rangers are doing so well this season, given your view that our very best player isn't as good as the 25th best at CP.

In fact, it's almost miraculous.
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:08:18
no miracles...just referees...simple

If we had fair refs we'd be 10 pts clear

Onto the match and Celtic have started well...Caddis looking comfortable, McGeady probing and broonaldo running the show...
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:09:45
Celtic's subs today...

Mark Brown
Sno
Samaras
O'Dea
Hartley

I cant think of one rfc player that i'd want on the bench in place of those guys...
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BEMUSED EXILE,

02/02/2008 12:09:59
If you had better players you'd be 10 points clear, you mean.

Only the most bitter and terminally deluded can put it down to corrupt refereeing, the last refuge of the desperate.

Life at the top is peachy.
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:15:01
14 mins gone...3 decisions wrong already by ref Brines...guess which team suffered...yep all against Celtic...

VofH misses a sitter, but Celtic starting to crank it up...

Donati and Broonaldo having good games

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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:16:16
naka free kick...

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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:18:27
hits the wall...celtic still in control...

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BEMUSED EXILE,

02/02/2008 12:18:38
Naka free kick, he says expectantly...

He's hardly Charlie Adam, is he?
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Rouleur,

On ma bike 02/02/2008 12:18:53
Tim, what's going on with Donati's beard? He looks like he's Amish. A poor effort indeed.
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:19:42
yet another decision against celtic...even billy dodds says "it's never a foul"
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Timothy Malloy Esq,

02/02/2008 12:20:30
100

No he's not Adam...he's NOT a fat ugly thug...

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BEMUSED EXILE,

02/02/2008 12:21:10
Rouleur.

He says he won't shave until Celtic win a trophy.

Should make a convincing Santa by next Xmas!!!