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Riordan: I would never tell Fletcher to say no to Celtic



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Published Date: 07 September 2008
ON THE face of it, seeking career advice from Derek Riordan may be akin to asking Gordon Brown how to boost your public popularity. Yet that probably won't matter to Steven Fletcher. Riordan's troublesome two years at Celtic Park can be summed up in two ways, depending on one's outlook. Either a promising young talent has wasted time by chasing money and unattainable dreams, or Riordan was entirely correct to try and prove himself among the best players in the country.
Either way, the 25-year-old has learned to look only at the future and a probable Hibernian strike partnership with Fletcher since making his long-awaited return to Leith last week. The equation is simple; Riordan needs Fletcher to kick-start his ca
reer, Fletcher needs Riordan to reinvigorate his and Hibs need the pair of them as they look to recover from a miserable run of form.

The club has won only once since mid-March and Fletcher, one of Scotland's brightest young talents, has found the net only six times for his club in 2008. If he can regain the form which attracted Real Madrid to his progress, Fletcher will unquestionably face a Riordanesque career decision. And Celtic are unlikely to be far from the front of the queue.

So, given his own trials and tribulations, would Riordan advise his new team-mate against a move to bigger and supposedly better things? "I wouldn't do that because you never know what's going to happen," Riordan insisted. "You could end up playing for the best team in the world if you start playing well at another club, it just didn't work out for me. If you knew you weren't going to play then you wouldn't go anywhere. But you never know that.

"It is down to yourself, what choices you make in your life, and it either happens for you or it doesn't. If Fletcher thinks he is good enough to play elsewhere then all the best to him."

The pair first made a first-team acquaintance in 2004, Fletcher afforded fleeting end-of-season appearances as Riordan and Garry O'Connor formed one of the SPL's more potent partnerships. An instant impression was made.

"Fletch is a brilliant player," said Riordan, who scored 17 times for Hibs in the 2003/4 season and 23 in the subsequent 12 months. "He has great technique so I'm looking forward to playing with him. He is an unselfish player, he is not one to be greedy inside the box. "He has gone through a dry spell recently but he is a great finisher. I've gone through spells myself where it has been eight games without a goal. Eventually it starts coming back for you."

Fletcher had better hope his scoring touch returns, for the sake of his own wallet if nothing else. An imminent bet between the pair will hinge on who scores the more goals before the end of this campaign, with Riordan's target perfectly clear. "Twenty goals is my main aim," he added. "But as long as I can be top goalscorer, I'll be happy. I always want to finish there, even if I'm playing in midfield."

It was a rare crumb of comfort for Riordan, then, that he topped Celtic's reserve scoring charts last season. "People who say I shouldn't have gone to Celtic are probably Hibs fans," he said. "I just wanted to play at the highest level. I thought I was making the right choice, it just didn't work out."

The shrug of the shoulders which follow says a lot. Riordan retains a grievance that Gordon Strachan never afforded him the chance he feels he merited, with off-field drama subsequently more noteworthy than anything the player did in hoops. Riordan is clear that Mixu Paatelainen's worries need only relate to football, and not what nightclub his new forward may grab attention in next.

"Obviously I would say that side of things (off the field] has been exaggerated," Riordan insisted. "But I just have to get on with these things. It wasn't an issue when I came back here, the gaffer knows me well and he has been brilliant with me. As long as I am brilliant for him, everything will be fine."

The attainment of a similarly productive relationship between Riordan and Fletcher will be vital to the future of all three.





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  • Last Updated: 06 September 2008 8:36 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC , Celtic FC
 
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07/09/2008 00:28:06
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Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, they don't care 07/09/2008 00:37:38
Self loathing is an unnatractive trait number 1, as is your jealousy of all things Celtic. Your inferiority complex is what fuels your anger and you are a classic example of the repulsive bigotry that makes stinkgers fc hated the world over.

Stinkgers fc, the shame of Scotland.
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Glasgow_Hibs,

07/09/2008 01:22:18
Two things about this "story" 1. Riordan doesn't say anything about Fletch and celtc and 2. Fletcher should be aiming higher than celtc.

At his age, build and technique he could easily do well in the EPL. He has stated he wants to play for Liverpool, the team he supports and while I think he is not there yet, maybe playing for a team like WBA would give him the experience down there to realise that dream.

Playing for strapon who has ruined plenty of players or auld uncle wattie and anti football fc would do him no good.
4

Who's it gonna be? ,

07/09/2008 08:01:15
Riorden will help the squad but Mixu has until the hertz game to come good- which I am fairly sure he will. Needs to keep tabs on the Deekster though- been caught in the Gunner already...
There is no way Fletch would go to one of the OF ungly sisters unless he could retire after a fortnights wages. English premiership for him wil be atainable but it would be nice to see a scotsman on the continent- not too soon though.
5

Dood,

07/09/2008 08:02:13
#1

Firstly, your name gives away a fair bit about your personality. However, your posts certainly enhance this.

I'd guess that you are one of the (few) bigots left at Tynecastle. One of the few stuck in the dark ages. Your post indicates this.

I'll await your witty reply with baited breath. I'm hedging bets that I'll be accused of being a junkie, soapdodger, giro mercenary blah blah blah.

I am a hibbie after all.
6

Dood,

07/09/2008 08:06:32
#5 Pundit

More tired, boring same-old postings from you.

For your info, you can't afford Fletch. Hibs will have a price on his head and I'd suggest it's now out of your reach. I'm sure you'll now throw sums at me about how much you've spent, but lets just hang on and compare it to your clubs revenue over the last 9 months...........

Yup, the biscuit tin's empty now. And you'll now be getting Fletch. But of course, Wattie doesn't want him anyway.

After all, he is a FOOTBALL player.
7

Dood,

07/09/2008 08:07:13
#8

Ooops - You'll NOT be getting Fletch

Hee haw.
8

Talk o' the Toun,

07/09/2008 08:35:22
Dood: Concur with post 7. Although they still exist (as you say a minority) they are not welcome at Tynecastle.
FLETCHER: i am sure he is bright enough not to seek advise from DR re the direction of his career.I have not seen enough of him to convince me he is destined for the top(never stood out against HEARTS) but his two quality goals for under 21's was enough to convince me that he should already have been part of the 1st team squad.Presume he will have to wait until he joins either of the OF before he is fairly appraised( most recent glaring example ROBSON)
9

Dood,

07/09/2008 08:47:27
#10 TOTT

Agree. Fletch is good but really needs to start kicking on. Sadly I also have to agree that he's never stood out again the Hearts. However, I'm very much hoping that that situation might just change next month, by which point Deeks will be back to match fitness and looking hungry. I'm sure you'd agree that Fletch and the Ned up front has the hallmarks of a very good partnership.

And, yes, I'd also have to agree that Fletch should be on the first plane to Iceland. Whatever Miller/Boyd etc contribute to Scotland, Fletch would do more. Both of these journeymen are a waste of space.
10

Talk o' the Toun,

07/09/2008 09:25:29
Dood: Fletcher & DR up front has to be 30/40 goals a season assuming they get the service. Leave the guys that watch Hibs to comment on that as i cannot see where it is coming from.(especially now that you have lost Kerr!)
11

Armo,

07/09/2008 09:39:39
I don't actually see Riordan say that Fletcher shouldn't sign for Celtic but maybe it's hidden in that article somewhere!

*checks again to make sure*

At this present juncture the last thing Celtic need right now is another vastly over rated Scottish player that can't score goals.

Maybe Fletcher would be better holding off for that *ahem* move to Real Madrid, which surely must be imminent soon.
12

Scotland Uber Unionists,

07/09/2008 11:29:31
Wonder if Ambulance chasers FC made Rioran sign a confidentiality clause and if so, why? What happens behind the scenes at that club they'd rather not talk about?
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WALTER SMITHS BLUE AND WHITE ARMY #1....,

UK 07/09/2008 13:04:16
Fletcher is certainly ugly enough to play for celtic.
Riordan was just TOO ugly.
Back to hibs where the junky/aids victim look is the norm.
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Dood,

07/09/2008 13:34:57
#15. I think post #16 refers to you. You asked me on another thread why I thought you were a bigot...... It's fairly apparent, I'd suggest.

And yes, very good - Hibs fans/Aids/Junkies. Owch, my sides. Haven't heard that one before. How original.
15

Boozy,

Leith 07/09/2008 13:39:38
I wish the critics of Derek Riordan who are queuing up to shoot him down would tell me what he is guilty of exactly, Murder? I have heard twice now about Deek getting assaulted but nothing about him assaulting anyone. Yes I know he isn't an angel, but he is a young guy in his mid twenties who goes out for a bevvy with his mates, pretty normal don't you think. What is not normal and in fact what I find preposterous, is George Foulkes the MP for Delusion West revealing his ignorance by slagging a young guy after being arrested himself not so long ago "Drunk and Disorderly" wasn't it George? and what age are YOU?.
16

Genghis McCann,

07/09/2008 13:58:30
14 are you one of my offspring?
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Genghis McCann,

07/09/2008 14:00:32
Did PLG sign one of those as well? before he got his 3million pay off
18

Daillyman,

07/09/2008 14:58:11
Can anyone shed any light on why the returning superstar to Hibs sat on the touchline for 2 years at Parkhead?

It was the tic boss who bought him.

sensible responses please.
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Neutral Observer,

07/09/2008 15:49:36
#22 pundit

A bit disappointed at the way the great 'pundit' has lowered the tone and intellectual content of his posts. Rangers will sign (and often bench) players from Scottish teams, but their ceiling for that is £2.0 million. They would rather pay inflated sums to purchase foreign players. Fletcher would be for sale, but the price is thought to be £5.0 million.

For your information, Fletcher signed a 5 year contract last season and the Hibs board gave him a package worth £5.0k per week. Not the wage the top players at Rangers get but he committed himself to that on the basis that:

1) He was 20 years of age nd needed to develop more. At Hibs he will get that opportunity by playing every week and getting specialist coaching. There are no coaches at Ibrox worth their salt - that is why Rangers have to buy all the time.

2) He would get, if he continues to progress, his pick of clubs (which could be Celtic or Rangers but more likely EPL or Spain) when the time is right.

I watched him at the under 21 game on Thursday and, he both led the line well and his 2 goals were absolute class. Compare that to the way that Miller and Boyd played for Scotland yesterday and the deficiencies of the the mentioned two were painful to watch.
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Hobo Harry,

07/09/2008 16:32:33
24 thepundit, Can you show me any link from a reputable source that says that Rangers actually put in a formal bid of 6M for Brown and Thomson. I won't be holding my breath.....
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Neutral Observer,

07/09/2008 16:42:36
#24 pundit

You may have found out who the president of Former Republic of Yugoslavia Macedonia is, but your information on what Rangers bid for Brown and Thomson is not accurate. They would not go above £2.5 million for Brown and bid £4.0 million for the pair. Hibs already had 2 offers for Brown in excess of £4.0 million from English clubs, but he wanted to stay in Scotland. Celtic bid around £4.5 million payable over 3 years and that was accepted. Rangers offer of £1.5 million for Thomson was rejected as was a subsequent offer of £2.0 payable over 2 years. Eventually a cash offer of £2.0 million was agreed.

Yes, Rangers or any EPL club could have had Fletcher in the last window and he would have gone to an EPL club. But the negotiations had to start at £5.0 million.

But why would he go to Rangers or Celtic at the moment when both clubs have enough strikers to play in 3 teams. At 21 years of age, and on an excellent wage at Easter Road, he wants to play and develop more. Not play 12 games a season and fester on the bench. Why, at Rangers he cannot even get European experience this season!
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Dood,

07/09/2008 16:58:08
#24 Pundit

I think Neutral Observer sums up the content of your posts.

Right then, so you value Fletch at 2.5m. Righto then, you can have him for that. Is that how it works now?

And to say that who Rangers want, Rangers get is simply laughable. The stark reality for you is exactly what NO points out, that Fletcher had no desire to move YET, because he knew he had to develop for at least another year, because he is only 21 and can afford to turn down the really big money right now as he has time on his side.

Believe what you want, but Fletcher is significantly above the two journeymen Rangers strikers who appeared for Scotland yesterday. And he's destined for bigger things than Ibronx.
23

Dood,

07/09/2008 17:20:57
#28.

No, you're right, I'm sure if the terms were suitable, he would go to the Ugly Sisters. For that to happen though, Hibs would have to accept an offer which meets their valuation. Which has not and is unlikely to materialise from the Old Firm. And do you honestly think that if a decent premiership side weighed in with the same offer, that he'd go west? Don't think so somehow. But then your over inflated Old Firm Ego will no doubt disagree with that.

And as for Steven Whittaker. Two points.

a) Hardly a benchwarmer. How many starts did he have last season, and this? Hmmmm, I'll let you come back to me on that one.

b) Not on 16k per week. Try nearer 10k.

Oh aye, and congratulations on knowing loads on Macedonia. That's massive.
24

Dood,

07/09/2008 19:58:20
#30 Pundit

Hardly a bench warmer then, eh? Not when you take injuries and the fact that Hutton held the position for the first 4 months.

Interestingly, your valuation of Fletcher has gone up by £1m. Hmmmmm. Out of more interest, I didn't quote £5m, but then it's immaterial really - you don't have £5m to spend. Your more illustrious, yet equally ugly, city rivals do however.

And I don't really care what David Murray's comments on wage structure say. I know what Whitty earns and it aint 16k. End of. But then if you'd rather believe its more then more fool you.

Keep beLIEving mate. Murray's bleeding you dry. Do the sums.
25

Neutral Observer,

07/09/2008 22:52:02
MONDAY HEADLINE

thepundit bids £2.5 million for Steven Fletcher. Hibs accept as thepundit has no desk space in his tiny command centre for another since bring them on is always there and thus Fletcher will be loaned back to Hibs for a full season.

thepundit funds the purchase from the sales of his two no.1 best seller books:

> The Biggest Bore England Has Produced

> Macedonia v Caledonia, the complete guide

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Hobo Harry,

07/09/2008 23:20:24
32 thepundit, You should write and tell David Murray that you can save him 1m per every 3.5m bid. He'll employ you I am quite sure......

Arf arf arf
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lonegersfan,

Hamilton NZ 08/09/2008 05:39:34
Why would Fletcher want to go to Celtic, they are only going to but him into reserves for the next two years before he reslised what happend eh. Lean from the mistakes of other great players you go to celtic and bye bye Scotland or international call up!!!!. Go to rangers and at the very least youl get game time or have no problems canceling your contract if it dosent work out, and also Rangers are a far bigger club than Celtic.... 51 titles speak for its self
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lonegersfan,

Hamilton NZ 08/09/2008 05:49:03
saying that too if players just stayed together at the same club like for exp if all the great players that played for HIBS such as Thomson, brown, Fletcher, Riordan, Conner, Killen, the list goes on..... If they had all stayed together where could HIBS be right now???? Europe as in the CL group stage because they had won the SPL and because of that HIBS would of had the money to beable to pay their wages that they dream about... Why dont players think about that eh, HIBS in particular, that team was there all there, These players mentioned all in the same generation, all the players were there in the same team and i guess from the same city, if they just stuck together and thought about where they and their beloved?? club could be if they had stayed together????
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lonegersfan,

Hamilton NZ 08/09/2008 05:57:29
Rangers and Celtic complaining about the competition???. Well they take all the promacing players from all the other scottish teams for a start. if the old firm stopped buying all the other teams great talent for a start and allowed the others to build a great team to catch up and give them a challenge, have the season finish tight and like have a 7 point spread between the top i guess 4 clubs atleast, would they think about how many tv corporations would see that and see the excitment of the SPL, which would give them the reason to lay down huge offers for veiwing rights.
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lonegersfan,

Hamilton NZ 08/09/2008 06:20:28
How much of a gamble would it be for the SFA to put their foot down and try to democratically put in a regulation that limits the amount of Forigners in each team and the amount of players going between other clubs i.e great scottish players going to the old firm. Would it go anywere in regards to closing the gap between the old firm and the other clubs thus making the SPL more exciting for both the fans of scotland and around the world to watch. I think that most people around the world would far prefer to watch a hard tackling down to earth style of play that the scots play than that fancy hollywood bulls##t of the english/spanish/Italian long hair "was that me Reff" s##t you get on TV here in NZ. Its that c##p that reks it for soccer here in NZ, all the egos and hollywoods of the EPL, gives soccer here that bad image., Thus making it all the more logic for more $$$ to be put forward by sponsors and TV corporations, thus giving players more incentive to stay in scoltand/local club, because they will be getting the same that they would be getting south of the boarder... would it keep to all the good talent in scotland and give the Scottish National team that ever more chance of making it in the world????
Am i on the right track or is there a bigger picture that im missing out on
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Bigwull,

edinburgh 08/09/2008 08:12:09
38 sense at last, but truth be told they clearly do not want any competition, but you're talking of the wrong edinburgh club if you're ever looking for a title challenge, but to be fair a stong Hibs and Aberdeen too and then you'd see interest rocket, as the EPL is about to become a Circus act.
32

CHUCKY,

08/09/2008 08:31:28
Please, please, please Gordon, no more dross from Embra.

I would volunteer to drive EVERY purchase we have made from the capitals clubs back there tomorrow.

NONE of them are good enough to play for for Celtic and I don't want Fletcher either.
33

FFF,

08/09/2008 11:44:02
FYI Chucky. They're not dross while they're in the capital. It must be something in the glesgie air... or more likely, your current managers inability to play his purchases in the positions where they made an impact.

Strachan is a numpty. He failed dismally in England and has been lucky in a two team league. With no European commitment this season, Rangers will be streets ahead of you.

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CHUCKY,

08/09/2008 12:04:55
#42 And long may he continue to be 'lucky.'

How can you call Strachan lucky after the rearangers UEFA cup run last year? Now THAT was lucky.

The result last Sunday was a freak, 4 in a row will be nice, Hibs could be relegated and Hearts go out of business but at the end of the day, who'd notice?
35

FFF,

08/09/2008 14:12:59
There are two sides to a coin. If you t0ss (apparently, the original spelling of 't0ss' is unsuitable for the Scotsman) one and it lands on heads 3 times in a row, you are lucky, nothing more....and yes, Rangers were lucky. Doesn't make Strachan any less lucky though. Rangers humped you, no freakiness involved.
36

FFF,

08/09/2008 14:16:06
Also love the way you can be 'humped' but not 'h*mp' on these pages lol

 

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