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Published Date: 18 January 2008
SIR DAVID Murray has called on the wider sporting community in Scotland to take steps to eradicate what he termed a "them and us" barrier between sports after he stepped in to help the Glasgow rugby team.
The Rangers chairman is a passionate supporter of various sports, most notably football and rugby, and when he took over last year as the Scotland rugby team's new sponsor, at the conclusion of The Famous Grouse partnership, he agreed to look at w
ays where his football interests could further help rugby.

The first clear sign of that came this week when he was asked by Gordon McKie, the SRU chief executive, whether Rangers' Murray Park training facilities would be available to Glasgow, as they struggled to find any grounds not waterlogged in preparation for tonight's Heineken Cup pool decider with Saracens.

Murray stated: "I was delighted to be able to help this week, and if there are opportunities to do it again we will try to help. With my interest in rugby and football we were asked when we did the sponsorship deal whether it was possible to utilise some of Rangers' facilities when they weren't being otherwise used, and of course we agreed.

"Murray Park is not simply a Rangers facility exclusively for Rangers. We built it and run it to suit the football club, of course, but we have around 2,000-3,000 children coming in there every week for training. Every night there are local kids training at Murray Park."

Murray Park, a £14m training venue at Milngavie, boasts indoor and outdoor 3G pitches. Glasgow players, who train on grass at Whitecraigs RFC and occasionally use the outdoor all-weather pitch at Nethercraigs were impressed by the complex.

Because of the significant cost implications, the secret to such facilities, however, lies in sporting clubs and local authorities working together. Murray insisted that this should be much more achievable than is currently the case.

"There must be scope for clubs and different sports to work together much more in the future. We have a terrible 'them and us' attitude in this country, which creates divisions that shouldn't be there. Murray Park received a small grant from the council to help with its creation, so why shouldn't there be a wider community use to it?

"I was pleased to help this week and not just with the facilities, but also help promote what is a huge game for Glasgow. There's not enough interest shown in rugby. When you think about it, nearly 70,000 people watch Scotland play at Murrayfield, yet we're expecting around 4,000 maybe to watch Glasgow in the biggest game of their history, with a chance to reach the last eight of the major European tournament.

"How do we expect top-quality rugby to thrive if the populace don't support it? Unfortunately, I'm away on business Friday and Saturday, but I hope Glasgow achieve something special."



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  • Last Updated: 17 January 2008 9:51 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: David Murray
 
1

Wee Pal Joe,

18/01/2008 00:06:07
Who wants to be first to make an obvious joke about Rangers and rugby? :0)
2

Paul in Oz,

Helensburgh 18/01/2008 00:50:47
Who wants to shut up and get behand Glasgow?
3

Paul in Oz,

Helensburgh 18/01/2008 00:51:04
oops behind!
4

buy2let,

johnstone 18/01/2008 01:47:39
We the people demand to know how much was the small "GRANT" given by the council,to fund murraypark,we the people,should say no taxation without reprsentation,therefore we the people not the we are the people ,but us we the people WANT to know how much of our TAXES was given to Murraypark ,and a independant audit of the financial state of play should be undertaken immediately
5

Real Men Against Bhoys,

Melbourne 18/01/2008 02:02:11
#4 - Do we the people also wish to know how much Glasgow Council is spending to subsidise the renewal project around CP in time for the Commonwealth Games?

Maybe you should just go back to bed instead of trying to further your own bitter, twisted little agenda against RFC, ya silly bigotted little man!
6

Mutt,

Fell off the fence on the rugby side 18/01/2008 08:48:39
Well said Laird.

Goes to prove there are some brains in Murrayfield (SRU headquarters to the uninitiated). And regardless of detractors (with spurious reasons) it's good for rugby to have such a high profile advocate. (Just think we do a sale and lease back arrangement without having to change the stadium name :>)

Four tries to three with a sclaffed conversion by Jackson is all we need :)

In the immortal words of Rob Schneider:

"You can do it!"
7

SIR RASTUS DICKLONG-DONGLER,

Hanging out at length around Ibrox 18/01/2008 09:19:29
Murray is just a self-obsessed opportunist. Ghastly person.
8

Mutt,

Waiting with baited breath 18/01/2008 09:30:30
You don't get to be a multi-millionaire WITHOUT being a self-obsessed opportunist!!

He can be as "ghastly" a person as he wants if he's putting his money where his mouth is to help communites and sports other than Ibrox, Rangers and football.
9

legless,

Edinburgh 18/01/2008 09:47:15
There's a few examples of Scotlands biggest barriers in the posts above.Nowt to do with sport though.
10

Gerry M,

18/01/2008 10:17:01
The man that reigns supreme over one of the most bigoted and sectarian institutions on the planet has some brass neck to call for an end to "them and us"
11

Rampant,

London 18/01/2008 10:24:03
I agree Well done Laird

Hopefully this facility can be made available more regularly for the Warriors and potentially allow schools etc to enjoy rugby as well.

I know its early days but perhaps Sir David might be a good voice for Rugby and allow the sport to increase in popularity
12

Another voice,

18/01/2008 10:31:24
I think cooperation between different sports is not just a great idea but one which should be rigorously pursued.

There have been a few occassions in recent years when matches at murryfield and hampden have overlapped. This is just stupid.

All scottish national teams whether they be football, rugby, cricket, ice hocky or tidly winks should be marketed together to ensure that they all get a good exposure. If different sports synergies overlap then they should be encouraged to work together.

Too much funding money is wasted on infrastructure or logistics to benefit one sport exclusivley. If they work together a lot more will be done.
13

bigbadbroon,

very wet southbank 18/01/2008 10:37:11
some really sad earlier posts - how some people can turn a positive story, about the generous offer of the use of first class facilities to help with what could prove to be a historical night for Glasgow rugby, into a petty tit for tat Old Firm argument is beyond me.

Grow up - it doesnt matter the size of grant given for Murray Park or that there is a huge amount of public money being thrown at the east - as long as it is used for the common good.

As the artice states Murray Park is used by thousands of children every week - so worth every penny.

14

Swede16,

poxy broxy 18/01/2008 11:12:16
Murray:
"How do we expect top-quality rugby to thrive if the populace don't support it? Unfortunately, I'm away on business Friday and Saturday..."

Priceless !!!!
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18/01/2008 11:16:16
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16

I-Mac,

18/01/2008 11:33:23
#15,

Murray is certainly supporting rugby. Do you do anything to support it?

Good luck to Glasgow. Tough one against Sarries.
17

royco,

18/01/2008 11:37:19
A person associated with a rival sport has generously provided practical assistance to Glasgow Warriors. With it, they've had some good, last-minute training. Without it, there probably wouldn't have been any training. Many thanks to David Murray and Rangers.

Some of the comments on here are rather poor. There is a slim chance of a Scottish team getting into the quarter finals of the European Cup (aka Heineken) tonight, which would be tremendous. Anyone who's free should get along to Firhill this evening and get behind the Glasgow boys, they need a big, noisy crowd to drive them on. If you've never been to a rugby match before, well give it a try, you might be surprised.

I saw Glasgow lose to the same opponents by 2 points last season, it was a really fast, brilliant game with loads of international stars involved. Tonight's game should be a real cracker.

18

Bobby Chipmunkhouse,

18/01/2008 11:43:03
On a different note, it's great to have the brigadier back. I'd long since lost hope of seeing him again, and had therefore declined from commenting on these threads, in the knowledge that whatever I wrote would provoke nothing more than, well, nothing more, instead of the generously twisted, possibly chemically enhanced opprobrium regularly heaped upon me by the Brig and his friends.

Sir Rastus Dicklong-Dongler sounds like a rum old chap, does he plan to run for the Scottish Parliament?

I think any organisation spearheded by a man named Rastus Dicklong-Dongler can only go one way, and that's up.
19

the boke,

18/01/2008 12:42:33
#11 There was absolutely no mention of Dastardly Desmond and Lie-well in the article above, or to that point creatures like you. No mention of the equally sectarian GCC who have earmarked nearly £1b for the M74 extension (with specific off/on ramps for the San Giro and multi storey parking) to regenerate the east end and now have used the Commonly loose Wealth games to promote both themselves and the Pee-tics by allocating a further £150m of public money in transforming Parkyerheid into a "Chelsea village" type enviroment. This for a "rusting sea hulk" built less than 10 years for the cost of a couple of Bovrils (now 4 due to drastically falling attendances). What do we have now? slathering MOPEs demanding audits for 150k grant to create 15-30 permanent local jobs and give the local population (and 3-4000 children) a world class training center. Sectarian Nepotism is a "crime" and i am bewildered as to why this is not being investigated by anyone! Our only hope would be Brussels but they support the Republican Nationalists (to weaken Engerland) and we aint got a prayer with the Incestious Scottish Labour party. Only on planet MOPE do we see such utter hypocracy!
20

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 18/01/2008 13:20:01
#20 - You don't half talk some sh!te.

Good luck to Glasgow - pity the SRU and the SFA couldn't work together to create a national stadium (like in Wales) used for both football and rugby.
21

jbascotinengland,

18/01/2008 13:25:46
Good to see the people of Glasgow putting their differences behind them in the posts above to get behind the team.

Its pathetic.

If I was a Borders fan I'd wondering how we managed to lose out to the numpties who have been posting above!

Good luck to Glasgow. I hope you win well enough to qualify.
22

Delboy29,

18/01/2008 13:27:29
God I'm sick to the back teeth with just about every post - about anything - becoming infected with the sectarian ravings of a (hopefully) few 'old firm' nutters. The reactions to Murray's enlightened approach proves that he has a mountain to climb before the 'them and us' barrier is overcome...
23

Cullenskink,

Kingston 18/01/2008 14:42:15

I am reminded of one reason I prefer rugby by posts above.

Go on Glasgow!
(And keep your eyes on Chris Jack)


PS Opprobrium - today's £10 word, nice work
24

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18/01/2008 16:51:35
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SIR RASTUS DICKLONG-DONGLER,

Hanging very far out, around sportscotland & SIS 18/01/2008 17:02:18
Thank you #19 Mr Used-Johnny.

Yes - it is true, I'm highly upwardly mobile. Frequently. As you can see from mah own lil' ol' webshite.

But that's enough stimulashun for the time being. Ooohhh.

Ah hav decided tae stick mahsel furrit an seek erection tae the highest office in spurt - sorry, sport! In the land. And on sea. And in the air.

I am lookin fur yon Doggie Doolally's auld joab as a Chairmannie. So there. If yon bletherin wee lichweicht chiel wi the fancy coloured an' stuck-up artificially curly-wurly hair an' dribblin mooth can manage a joab like yon - sae can ah!

Yin mair thing. Mr Doolally canna kick oot at his ain swingin' helmet lik' ah kin.... Eh???
26

SIR RASTUS DICKLONG-DONGLER,

Dragging it along behind me 18/01/2008 17:04:58
Did you know I was decorated & knighted during the Suez campaign for my ability to plumb the depths - WITH NO HANDS...???

Now that, for the average fellow is a mighty difficult if not painfully impossible feat.
27

DOME-HEADED, SPECCY & RUNNING AMOK,

Looking for The Laird of Kitakyushu 18/01/2008 18:04:04
Things have gone a little quiet of late, so when I catch up with that sorry little pastel beige-coloured low-life slob with the manufactured appelation I'll show what a bit of real "opprobrium" is.

Lord of the Murrayfield Manor
His Excellency, Carruthers McKie of Gordon (2007)
Hooker
Of that Ilk
Order of the SWRU Combined G-strings & Garters (unwashed)
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19/01/2008 02:40:40
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