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All to play for as SFL hopefuls arrive for D-day



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Published Date: 03 July 2008
AS IN any election, today's ballot at Hampden to decide the newest member of the Scottish Football League will be influenced as much by the vested interests of those casting their votes as it will by the credibility and merit of the campaigns mounted by the five candidates.
The 29 incumbent SFL chairmen who will decide which club fills the vacancy created by last month's demise of Gretna have been provided with detailed information on the pros and cons of each application by their own organisation's working party which carried out thorough site inspections of each one.

It would be naive, however, of anyone to imagine that today's decision will be taken purely on the basis of which one of Annan Athletic, Cove Rangers, Edinburgh City, Preston Athletic and Spartans are best equipped to join the Third Division for the new season and subsequently flourish as a senior league club.

The slick and often imaginative media campaigns mounted by some of the applicants, most notably Spartans and Cove Rangers, will have influenced many of the SFL clubs. So too, however, will the behind-the-scenes canvassing undertaken on behalf of the five hopefuls since the election process began in earnest four weeks ago.

In a contest in which, according to sources within the SFL management committee, there is not one outstanding candidate with an overwhelming case for membership, the personal standing and connections within Scottish football of those involved in the rival bids could be as crucial a factor as any.

Cove Rangers, the Highland League champions, will certainly hope their honorary president Alan McRae has been able to make a persuasive case to many of his colleagues in the administrative structure of the game in Scotland.

A vice-president of the SFA, McRae is optimistic his club can follow the path of their former Highland League rivals Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Ross County, Peterhead and Elgin City into the SFL.

Cove, who failed in bids to join the SFL in 2000 and 2002, will move from their current ramshackle Allan Park to a new 1,300-seater stadium at Calder Park in 2010 and McRae does not believe the close proximity of SPL neighbours Aberdeen will handicap their chances of election.

"We are convinced we have a very strong case for entry this time," said McRae. "We expect to have the paperwork required for the new stadium to be completed before Thursday's meeting. We have a two-year period in which to get the development started.

"We are looking to become a good SFL club. We haven't got ambitions to become an SPL club and our new stadium wouldn't be suitable for the top league.

"Our neighbours Aberdeen are also supporting our bid. There is room for two senior clubs in the area."

Another club with a vastly experienced SFA committee man to help press their claims are Annan Athletic, whose secretary Dick Shaw is also a board member on the sixth floor at Hampden.

Annan finished third in the 2000 election behind the successful pair of Peterhead and Elgin, but believe improved facilities at their Galabank ground and their geographical catchment area should tip the scales in their favour this time.

"There is only one choice and that is Annan Athletic," is chairman Henry McLelland's bullish claim.

"We're the only club all ready to play immediately," he added. "We have the infrastructure, the ground, the financial base, the fan base and we are entrenched in the community. I am confident that the majority of clubs will vote for the club which is the best proposition and that undoubtedly is Annan Athletic."

Preston Athletic, whose campaign has been led by their secretary, former SFA grade one referee Dr Andrew Waddell, will change their name to East Lothian Football Club if they are elected and claim they can attract crowds of around 600 to their Pennypit ground in Prestonpans.

"This is not just an application for the Third Division," said Waddell. "East Lothian Council is very progressive in developing sport and leisure and is hugely supportive in working with us.

"Indeed, I expect to be able to make an announcement on Thursday that will considerably increase the credibility of our bid, but the SFL clubs will be the first to hear. Our bid will take the Scottish league into new areas. We are not competing with any other league clubs as there is a gap from Edinburgh to Berwick that needs to be filled."

Spartans, considered by many as favourites to be elected, have certainly won the media battle over the past month and are confident concerns raised by the SFL over the readiness of their new Ainslie Park ground will not damage what is their first attempt to gain membership.

"The SFL clubs tell us they will review the applicants on a wide range of criteria," said Spartans chairman Craig Graham. "If so, we are optimistic clubs will vote for us."

Like Spartans, Edinburgh City believe the historical difficulty of establishing a third senior league club in Scotland's capital city should have no relevance to their bid.

St Bernard's, Leith Athletic and, in a previous form, Edinburgh City have all dropped out of the SFL in the past, while Meadowbank Thistle became Livingston in 1995 to escape the indifference which surrounded them.

Now based at Meadowbank Stadium, Edinburgh City claim they can learn from the mistakes of their predecessors.

"We believe that Edinburgh can support a properly marketed SFL club," said chairman Andy McDonald. "Our very central location allows us to draw people from all over the city.

"If admitted, we believe that attractive pricing, smart marketing and engagement with the local community will ensure a prosperous future for the club."

The lure of expediency should certainly not be underestimated. In 1974, the relative ease of travel to Edinburgh was a major factor in Ferranti Thistle's election to the SFL ahead of an arguably more credible Inverness Thistle bid.

It is why the outcome of today's battle to fill the Club X spot on the Third Division fixture list is anything but a foregone conclusion.

Spartans inquisition shows race for SFL membership has not taken place on a level playing field

COMMENT


TODAY'S election for membership of the Scottish Football League comes at the end of the most rigorous vetting procedure that the organisation has ever carried out ahead of such a ballot.

This is understandable. The last thing the SFL wants is 'another Gretna'.

But the level of investigation conducted by the SFL does not bear scrutiny itself. After the routine stadia inspections, Spartans were asked to respond to a 25-point supplementary questionnaire outlining serious concerns about their application. None of the other four clubs in today's ballot were subjected to this forensic treatment, which quibbled over matters as trivial as how many supporters Spartans took to a cup tie at St Mirren – 500 or 1,000 – and a misprint in the club's application brochure that read 'SFL' instead of 'SFL3'.

The query over the level of travelling support was ludicrous. Even if Spartans only took 500 fans to Love Street on a midweek night, the figure is a few hundred more than up to half of existing SFL members would have mustered.

There were, of course, more significant issues under discussion, such as the club's proposed home until their £3.5million facility at Ainslie Park is completed, and the provision of terracing around the pitch.

However on other issues, there does not appear to be a level playing field. Spartans are asked in the SFL questionnaire to confirm they will provide turnstiles, while Preston Athletic openly admit that they have "a man with a table at the gate". Spartans are asked about access to the stand, with the SFL concerned about the fact that spectators will enter and leave by the front of the structure rather than the sides – which in fact mirrors the set-up at rival applicant Annan Athletic.

Other aspects also suggest inconsistency in the SFL's approach. Spartans have been told that they must play a full round of matches at home once before moving to a new ground, presumably to be fair to other teams in the league. At least one current SFL member has moved ground mid-season without being asked to do this.

And there are serious flaws with other applications: Annan have no floodlights, and can only offer a promise to provide them, while Edinburgh City are based at Meadowbank where they can offer no genuine security of tenure while the city council proposes to demolish the stadium and build a smaller facility. It would be natural for the SFL to say 'we'll believe it when we see it'. They haven't.

It is just as well that the clubs today have a free vote, and do not require to follow the SFL report which may not be called a recommendation, but in effect is exactly that. And how ironic that Spartans this week became the first senior club in Scotland to receive a 'quality mark community club award' – from the Scottish Football Association.

All five applicants have their strengths, and each would bring something positive to the SFL structure. The Scotsman urges those who will cast their vote today to choose a modern, thriving, progressive club, with a facility that will become the envy of existing SFL members – one of which doesn't even have its own ground and has no prospect of getting one.

Spartans are not the only club to fit that bill, but they can also point to a track record of competitiveness against SFL sides, with Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Berwick Rangers and Queen's Park among their recent scalps in the Scottish Cup.

Today is a rare chance for the SFL to strengthen its membership, and offer their vision of a model community club. May the best team be given the chance to win.

The full article contains 1657 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 03 July 2008 12:16 AM
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1

bring them on,

03/07/2008 01:18:36
OF

But Celtic are already in the league....
2

Raskolnikov,

03/07/2008 01:31:33
#1 - Total bollux.

How do you judge who is the worst team, and more importantly, how do you judge who is going to be the worst team a few years down the line?

Only a Gers fan could come up with something as selfish and illogical as that piece of nonsense.
3

Raskolnikov,

03/07/2008 01:32:38
#3 - I suppose you'll have to get that prediction right some time this century.
4

bring them on,

03/07/2008 01:44:18
Rasky

Just in case you missed the BIG news.




The German-based International Federation of Football History and Statistics rank the Ibrox side as No 4 in world football, behind leaders Manchester United, Chelsea and Bayern Munich.

Walter Smith's side are rated by the federation as better than the likes of Barcelona (4th), Roma (5th), Liverpool (6th), Arsenal (7th) and Boca Juniors (8th).

Scottish clubs in general do not fare well on the top 350 published on the IFFHS website (www.iffhs.de). Celtic come next in 50th spot
5

Raskolnikov,

03/07/2008 01:48:18
BTO - Well, isn't that great news for Scottish Football, cos I've been telling all my mates here in Australia that Scotland are the best team in the world, but they just laughed at me.
6

bring them on,

03/07/2008 01:50:25
Scotland are 16th?

You really should read up more on your facts before making statements.
7

Raskolnikov,

03/07/2008 03:30:38
BTO - Seriously though, I was impressed until the paragraph "Walter Smith's side are rated by the federation as better than the likes of Barcelona (4th), Roma (5th), Liverpool (6th), Arsenal (7th) and Boca Juniors (8th)."

Kinda spoiled it for me that did. I mean if The Scotsman had omitted that bit I would have spent the rest of the day feeling pride in Scottish Football. Now you go and spoil it by revealing that it is all a complete wind-up.
8

bring them on,

03/07/2008 03:38:24
Rasky

I would have thought that Celtic coming 50th would have given you some hope for the future.

After all, the article could have just omitted that part.

No, we like to be fair.
9

Raskolnikov,

03/07/2008 03:39:46
BTO - Let me give you a clue.

When I was a wee boy, I used to compile a British League every Saturday night. It was very simple really. I would work out the percentage of points won to points available for every team in the Scottish and English First Divisions, and list them in a league table. I used to marvel at how Celtic and Rangers were always in front of the likes of Manchester United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arsenal, Leeds United, Tottenham Hotspur etc.

I was reminded of my British League upon reading the Gers fans - and especially your - reaction to this World table. But then again, when I produced my weekly British League table, I was only 5 years old.

When you grow up, you will see the light, just like I did when I reached age 6. Until then, enjoy the moment.

[aside to audience] What can you say to these dumbass Gers fans?
10

Raskolnikov,

03/07/2008 03:54:56
I can just imagine Sir Minty Moonbeams (is May over yet?) and Batty Wattie protesting to UEFA after reading this article:

Haw big man. Aye you Micky Platinum. How come thon Tims are gaun straight intae the Champions League group stages n we hiv tae play two qualifying gemmes when the papers are sayin we're the fourth best team in ra wurruld n nat know? Ah'm gonnae grass yez up tae ra Daily Record if ye dinnae sort this oot by ra way.

Because Monsieur Smeef, and listen very carefully. I will say zis only once. Celtic is ze champion of L'Ecosse therefore ze top club in ze country.

Dinnae gimme aw that French p1sh. Can ye no talk proper English like wot me n Sur David, ya hoor that ye are.
11

Daillyman,

03/07/2008 04:16:33
Cove Rangers should get the SFA place.
12

James,

Dundee 03/07/2008 06:10:03
Bring on......a pyramid system
Non-league sides from Highland League, East and South Scotland Leagues plus the Juniors playing off against the perennially p1sh (e.g. E.Stirling, Albion Rovers etc). However the SFL Turkeys arent going to vote for that.
My own wee team, Lochee Harp have not submitted a bit this time. Admittedly, Beechwood Park is more Hayfield than Hampden, Nagasaki than Nou Camp, but what the heck. I feel that the Kelly dynasty has been holding the club back for decades.
Replacing Dundee FC as the 'number two' team in the City is entirely possible if they show belief.
13

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 03/07/2008 06:33:06
What a pity one or two of the Chuckle Brothers Lunatic Fringe, not content with lowering the tone on the Kenny Miller thread decided to inflict their wit and wisdom on this thread.

It certainly seems to me the SFL are setting out to "show" Spartans for being supposed media darlings - the club's plans for their ground and their future are just what Scottish footbal needs.

Have to agree with #17 - James, what we need is a proper pyramid system to allow ambitious clubs to move forward.

That requires the SFA to do something, but, since even the reformers within that body, including Gordon Smith, face huge problems in getting the body of a pretty immovable kirk to agree to any change which doesn't immediately benefit them - and a pyramid would surely NOT help those teams for whom being "a senior club" is everything - we may have to wait a while.
14

Dood,

03/07/2008 07:57:52
#6 Bring them on.

Interesting stuff and clearly very factual and relevant.

Of course Rangers are ranked ahead of the likes of Arsenal, Liverpool, Juve, Real Madrid, Inter, AC Milan....... Everyone knows that Rangers are bigger/better than these small fry, mediocre cess pits of fitba clubs. Hell, I'm shocked that Hearts and Kaunas don't rank in the top ten.
15

Dood,

03/07/2008 07:59:33
#16 Old inFirm.

Yes, Spartans should get it because they will present the strongest case in terms of their infrastructure. But given the past 'elections', logic will not dictate.

Oh aye, and when did Cove move to the Highlands?
16

Who?,

03/07/2008 09:21:54
This is a really poor article.

You have to wonder if the journo who wrote this submitted it to spartan for approval before printing it.

Annan Athletic should get the place. They are the biggest club, have the better ground and they are in an area of scotland with little professional football.

The only sad thing is that all the clubs applying would struggle in the junior superleagues. A previous poster suggested a pyramid system but it would never work due to vested interests and the fact the junior superleagues are of a higher standard than the 2nd and 3rd divisions.

It would be better to bring the 12 spl clubs back into a radically modernised sfl. Have two national leagues of 10 with 2 up 2 down between them. Two clubs could be relegated from national 2. Below the national leagues keep the regional junior and seniors. The winners of those leagues can play off to get into the nationals.

That would provide meaningful competition in every tier of scottish football.
17

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

03/07/2008 09:24:02
Cove or Spartans. For historical reasons and Edinburghs inability to support a third club I think it will be Cove Rangers.

If Annan get those floodlights sorted out it should be them.

Edinburgh City ? Just the same as Meadowbank really and crying out for someone with a bit of money to relocate them if their bid is succesful.

Preston Athletic - very unlikely.

Anyway , a pyrmaid system is the way forward but unlikely in the Scottish Football Mugabe League.
18

Alasdair,

03/07/2008 09:39:50
Personally I'm rooting for Cove Rangers, it would be good to involve the North of the country more in the main leagues. I was sceptical when Caley Thistle got promoted to the SPL, but actually they've been a breath of fresh air, and played some decent football too.
19

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

03/07/2008 09:49:52
Caley have been THE success story of Scottish Football in recent years.
20

J Saxby,

Gorebridge 03/07/2008 10:15:48
Anyone watch the Eurovision Song Contest? It was pretty awful and predictable that the former Soviet block countries would vote for each other. Taking that as our SFL model, here are the predictions of our unbiased jury. The Frozen North-Montrose,St Johnstone,Ross County,Dundee,Forfar,Arbroath,Brechin,Peterhead,Elgin City , 9 points to Cove Rangers. The West/Midwest and Deep South-Morton,Dumbarton,Partick Thistle,Queens Park,Airdrie,Albion Rovers,Clyde,Queen of the South,Ayr Utd,Stranraer, 10 points to Annan. The Eastern Block-Stenhousemuir,Alloa,Livingston,Dunfermline,East Fife,Raith Rovers,East Stirling,Stirling,Berwick,Cowdenbeath, 10 points to Spartans-Ed City-Preston collectively.
We could expect a second even a third ballot to decide with the Fife teams giving their 4 votes to Cove and so the other 6 voes going to ANNAN giving them a total winning score of 16. Any questions?
21

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

03/07/2008 10:18:34
25 . Travel times for the cash strapped and part time players of Divisions 1 + 2 certainly come into it.
22

J Saxby,

Gorebridge 03/07/2008 10:36:07
Anyone watch the Eurovision Song Contest? It was pretty awful and predictable that the former Soviet block countries would vote for each other. Taking that as our SFL model, here are the predictions of our unbiased jury. The Frozen North-Montrose,St Johnstone,Ross County,Dundee,Forfar,Arbroath,Brechin,Peterhead,Elgin City , 9 points to Cove Rangers. The West/Midwest and Deep South-Morton,Dumbarton,Partick Thistle,Queens Park,Airdrie,Albion Rovers,Clyde,Queen of the South,Ayr Utd,Stranraer, 10 points to Annan. The Eastern Block-Stenhousemuir,Alloa,Livingston,Dunfermline,East Fife,Raith Rovers,East Stirling,Stirling,Berwick,Cowdenbeath, 10 points to Spartans-Ed City-Preston collectively.
We could expect a second even a third ballot to decide with the Fife teams giving their 4 votes to Cove and so the other 6 voes going to ANNAN giving them a total winning score of 16. Any questions?
23

J Saxby,

Gorebridge 03/07/2008 10:54:19
Anyone watch the Eurovision Song Contest? It was pretty awful and predictable that the former Soviet block countries would vote for each other. Taking that as our SFL model, here are the predictions of our unbiased jury. The Frozen North-Montrose,St Johnstone,Ross County,Dundee,Forfar,Arbroath,Brechin,Peterhead,Elgin City , 9 points to Cove Rangers. The West/Midwest and Deep South-Morton,Dumbarton,Partick Thistle,Queens Park,Airdrie,Albion Rovers,Clyde,Queen of the South,Ayr Utd,Stranraer, 10 points to Annan. The Eastern Block-Stenhousemuir,Alloa,Livingston,Dunfermline,East Fife,Raith Rovers,East Stirling,Stirling,Berwick,Cowdenbeath, 10 points to Spartans-Ed City-Preston collectively.
We could expect a second even a third ballot to decide with the Fife teams giving their 4 votes to Cove and so the other 6 voes going to ANNAN giving them a total winning score of 16. Any questions?
24

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

03/07/2008 11:03:41
stop that.
25

Den Spark,

dundee 03/07/2008 11:10:48
17#James, your comment re harp replacing the citys oldest and most successful senior club as 2nd team in the city would suggest then that the number 1 team in Dundee would be the true United hailing from Gods own country of Lochee .This would then leave the oldest and most successful senior club in the city 3rd which would leave the small fruits where exactly?
26

J Saxby,

Gorebridge 03/07/2008 11:13:30
Sorry for the repeat business, my mobile computer went haywire..Anyway My vote goes to Spartans but it's a year too earlly for them and evwrybody knows it so it's got to be the smart money on ANNAN to just knick it. Bye the way can anyone tell me if the bookmakers got involved in this. How many bets/money gone on the teams?
27

sonnybud,

East Coast 03/07/2008 11:33:52
I hate spin and for my money Spartans are the biggest spinners around in this application. Spartans are a community club. Fair play to them for that. They encourage people to play football not watch it. Just like my local sports centre. However my local sports centre, like Spartans, have no supporters and therefore would make little contribution to the SFL. What is needed is a club with a passionate local support and Edinburgh has a track record of SFL teams folding due to lack of support.
Spartans should stick to what they are good at and provide community facilities. A professional club needs a solid fan base to survive. Spartans dont have that (150 to a Cup Final?)
28

Jealousy,jealousy,

03/07/2008 11:34:34
#13 Rask

What a sad childhood you had then mate. Most 5 year olds enjoy running about or playing with toys while poor wee Rasky is stuck inside compiling stats.
29

James,

Dundee (Lochee to be precise) 03/07/2008 12:57:32
#30 Dense, thankyou for your considered if somewhat wounded reply, regarding the denizens of the Fizzy Pop League. The Tiny Wee Dark Purple Team of Fun(aka DUFC -Dundee United Feeder Club) may have won a single trophy more than the 'small fruits' but by the same token Queens Park with 10 Scottish Cups wins leave both in the shade. True they are also SFL members with the same voting rights as yourselves, and so you should be comparing yourselves to them, Farfir etc than with the most prominent team in your locale.
As for 'the Bluebells' we'll see how they do in the Senior Scottish Cup this year, all the best, but Harp I think you'll agree are closer to the hearts of the guid people of Lochee or those of the team formerly know as Dundee Hibs - Centenary year next year.
Can you please keep us posted regarding which players you think United can take from you next year. Hugs.
30

Armo,

03/07/2008 14:43:42
21 - Agreed.

The level of press pandering that has gone on in favour of Spartans has been nothing short of appalling.

The Highland league is well known as being the strongest league in Scotland (outside the top ones obviously) so Cove Rangers are the obvious picks.

I understand that a lot of the clubs aren't buying in to the press manipulation of the last month though which has to be a good thing.

The editorial above is the most skewed piece of nonsense I have read in a long time and if I had a vote after reading this Spartans would be the last club I would vote for.

Hopefully those with a vote won't have the wool pulled over their eyes as easily as the press hope they will.
31

Den Spark,

St Mary`s Lochee 03/07/2008 14:46:50
#34 James,only fooling with you there son!As a Lochee born and bred man myself it`s evident only a fool would suggest a team as poverty ridden as the harp could have any tenure in the sfl set up,not just them actually any dundee junior club.As for Harp being closer to the hearts of the good people o` Tip,not so sure about that although both grounds are probably equidistant from Lochee High street.Nothing against Harp got soft spot for them too but having been born down the road from Thomson Park its the Bluebells for me :-)
32

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

03/07/2008 15:05:32
and congrats go to J Saxby. well done.

Nice try though Spartans media friends. Maybe next time.


It's Annan.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/scot_div_1/7487357.stm
33

J Saxby,

GOREBRIDGE 03/07/2008 15:08:30
ANNAN ATHLETIC voted in to SFL Division 3 today according to Radio Scotland at 15.00. No details of how the vote went, may go and see them at their first game, good lick to them, think they'll have some ex-Gretna people come on board, probably best decision but SFL should ask members now to vote on pyramid/tier system.
34

J Saxby,

GOREBRIDGE 03/07/2008 15:18:37
ANNAN ATHLETIC voted in to SFL Division 3 today according to Radio Scotland at 15.00. No details of how the vote went, may go and see them at their first game, good lick to them, think they'll have some ex-Gretna people come on board, probably best decision but SFL should ask members now to vote on pyramid/tier system.
35

J Saxby,

GOREBRIDGE 03/07/2008 15:37:21
Sorry mobile Xda did it again.
Something else AYR United boss said today sums it up, "I want to see 100 away supporters coming through the gate..." That's probably the bottom line today, bums on seats, not shiney news ones with nobody sitting in them. Annan will pick up a few Gretna fans...and there'll be 100 and more from Annan to satisfy the chairmen of the SFL. Bad luck to the others. They should market themselves better, improve or build their new facilities and push for the pyramid system. I wonder if Preston will go ahead vwith the new stadium at Tranent and change their name to East Lothian FC. I t would put them in good shape for the next time. Does anybody think there'll be a next time. Some clubs still look on the brink of going under too?
36

Rosscobhoy,

03/07/2008 17:32:07
There has to be a next time. If Scottish football continues to be a closed shop it will never improve by any great length. A pyramid system would be the best solution, but it will have to be forced upon the SFL, SJFA and god knows who else. Not sure who would be able to do that, probably not Gordon Smith, maybe the Scottish Government if they ever wave enough cash in front of them.
37

J Saxby,

GOREBRIDGE 03/07/2008 17:59:05
#42 Gordon Smith quoted in
the news this afternoon as saying to the others "keep up what you're doing..there could be a way of you coming up ". I think he means it and people out there need to back the idea. Too many lazy chiefs need a kick up their backsides sitting on their laurels..it's time for change...vote the pyramid system in this coming season.. Club X was a good start...let's not end it there.
38

James,

Atholl St, Tipperary 03/07/2008 18:41:39
#36 Den

Was joshing about the Harp, but not about the pyramid system.

Regards to all the regulars in the Whip Inn :*)

39

James,

Atholl St, Tipperary 03/07/2008 18:41:41
#36 Den

Was joshing about the Harp, but not about the pyramid system.

Regards to all the regulars in the Whip Inn :*)

40

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 03/07/2008 19:48:07
So it's Annan then - well good luck to them.

Funny enough, one of their officials is SFA Council member Dick Shaw MBE; ex-Dalbeattie Star, ex-Queen of the South, but not ex-SFA!!!

Jobs for the boys anyone.

Trouble with a Scottish pyramid is, everyone except the blazers wants it. They will fight till the death to prevent it, since for a lot of the diddy teams in the SFL, being "Senior" rather than "Junior" is everything.

The Highland League, East of Scotland League and South of Scotland League don't want one - because they'd have to admit the Juniors and against the likes of Bathgate and Linlithgow, Tayport, Pollok, Arthurlie and the Three Stooges from my neck of the woods, TalbotB*^#*+~s, Scumnock and Glenafton - they'd be shown up for the p@sh they are.

But, most significantly - not many JUNIOR teams - potentially the biggest beneficiaries, want a pyramid, they'd rather be cocks of their own wee midden than just another wee senior team, hoping for the odd cup draw against either of the Chuckle Brothers.

We've got too many leagues, too many strata in Scottish football, but doing something about it - don't hold your breath.
41

Bleeding Heart...,

03/07/2008 21:04:08
#40 "Old Firm" - didn't you say recently that Spartans' election was a certainty - or words to this effect?

Like I said, everything seems to be black & white in your glory-seeking world.

Except that now and again, it's not quite like that, eh?
42

Den Spark,

03/07/2008 21:18:20
#45 James
My old boy grew up in the original Atholl St before the walk ups an multis ,only ootside bogs to share on the pletty and if you needed a good scrub it was across to Lochee baths ,not been in the Whip for many moons ,still frequented by the rowdies i wonder?
43

J Saxby,

GOREBRIDGE 04/07/2008 08:09:11
#42 Gordon Smith quoted in
the news this afternoon as saying to the others "keep up what you're doing..there could be a way of you coming up ". I think he means it and people out there need to back the idea. Too many lazy chiefs need a kick up their backsides sitting on their laurels..it's time for change...vote the pyramid system in this coming season.. Club X was a good start...let's not end it there.

 

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