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Published Date: 20 October 2008
IT'S hard to know who will be most disappointed with the result yesterday – but one thing that I do know is that the first Edinburgh derby of the season was an absolute cracker.
I was doing the co-commentary for Setanta and you always hope that you get a game that is full of incident and gives you a lot to discuss when you are on air.

And it was a typical Edinburgh derby. There was barely a minute to catch your breath.

Whether it was a good game simply because of the quality of football on show or not is debatable because there were a lot of misplaced passes and a lot of people falling over one another, but it was certainly entertaining.

There have been some brilliant games between Hearts and Hibs over the last few seasons and yesterday's was no different.

I've been living up here for ten years now and in that time I have seen some really great Edinburgh derbies and I don't think the scoreline really reflects just how open and entertaining this match was.

We've been crying out for a game like that to promote Scottish football outwith the Old Firm, something exciting and end-to-end, and for me yesterday's game was it.

My gut feeling at the end of the game was that it was a missed opportunity for Hearts because of the amount of possession and the freedom they had in the middle of the park – not to mention the space.

They had a threat down the left, they had a threat down the right and I thought that they shaded it.

Having said that, Hibs had a lot of clear-cut chances and they were denied a stonewall penalty that would undoubtedly have changed the course of the game.

For me, there was absolutely no doubt about it, but for some reason the referee decided not to give it even though he had a very good view. He is actually a referee that I really quite like. I think that he is one of the more respected referees in this country because of his attitude, he talks to players rather than lecture them and he tries to let the game flow.

You always hope that games of this magnitude are not going to be affected by controversial decisions and unfortunately, this one was, but I'm not sure what went wrong.

There's no doubt that some decisions are harder to get right than others – and that one wasn't. It was a very easy decision to point to the spot, Eddie Smith was in a good position and he had a good view.

I don't know what he thought had happened, did he think that he dived? If he did why didn't he book him? Did he think he had slipped over? We will never know, but I think that you can always tell from players' reactions as to whether it is a penalty or not. Derek's reaction told me that he had been fouled, obviously referees can't go on a supposition but I am surprised that he got it wrong because it was a pretty easy decision to make.

And whether we like it or not, that decision changed the course of the game because you have to assume that Hibs would have scored from it and gone two goals ahead.

That doesn't mean that they would have gone on to win the game, but it would have made them very strong favourites and that is probably the one sour taste the game left in your mouth.

Hibs went with three up front again, as they did against Aberdeen a fortnight ago but the two players who I have the most sympathy with were Ian Murray and Steven Thicot because the formations meant that for a large chunk of the game they were playing against a five-man Hearts midfield.

They were left to deal with guys like Michael Stewart, Christos Karipidis and Bruno Aguiar and while I know that Larry Kingston and Andrew Driver were playing wider, it really was two against five at some stages.

I think both managers set up their sides knowing that if their tactics were right then they would boss the game – but they also knew that if it went wrong they were in danger of being passed off the park. And as it turned out, both sides did have spells where they completely dominated.

It was tough for the two Hibs boys because they were completely outnumbered at times and they had to work very hard. They were very, very honest and stuck to their task well though and Mixu will have been delighted with their contribution to the game.

Over the balance of the whole match though, I thought that Hearts were probably the better team, they had good triangles in the middle of the park and they passed the ball about well.

It might have been his first game back, but Aguiar looked like he had never been away, he was amazing. I thought that he played a really controlled game. He got the man-of-the-match bubbly because I thought that he was outstanding. He is a class player, a class act, and Csaba Laszlo will feel like he has brought in a new signing.

He has been out for a long time but they say that class players never lose it and I think that he proved that because he shone out like a beacon.

To be honest though, I was impressed by the fitness of all three players in that Hearts side who have hardly kicked a ball over the last few months.

Driver was also tremendous, he put in a really good shift and it gave Hearts something extra because he could offer them a different outlet and drive forward at players. Christian Nade also did well, although he's probably not firing on all cylinders yet, but he plugged away and gave them an added threat.

Yet again there are people questioning his fitness but he lasted almost the entire 90 minutes and I think that he looked sharper than he has done for a long time and he looked dangerous at times.

Considering how long they have been on the sidelines, I thought these three guys played a massive part in the match and that's the kind of commitment and effort that Laszlo will be looking for from his players this season.







The full article contains 1085 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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Big T,

20/10/2008 12:34:25
Yeh Yeh Yeh - "clear cut" penalty.

Now what about the clear cut Nade goal that was disallowed.....
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CBJambo,

20/10/2008 12:40:36
'Edinburgh showpiece can rival any Old Firm derby!'

Too true... a better advert for the spl without a doubt!
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Black Five,

edinburgh 20/10/2008 12:56:35
George you are getting carried away again.I`m now a armchair fan and watching the old firm and Premier games Hearts and Hibs fall short.Both teams have too many very ordinary players.The game itself had it`s moments but the overall play was not of the top.Both teams will win nothing.Hearts lack a striker of any description and their defence is poor.The need of an Elvis like defender who can organise and command is verybobvious.Hibs have no strikers of anything bar Riordon.Wish he supported Hearts.That miss by Nish near the end would have been mana from Heaven to any decent striker.As for Nade`s miss that is almost as bad as the one by Scotland against Norway.Decent game but lacking in class.
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Old Reekies Big Team,

20/10/2008 12:58:05
Maybe Setanta sport should look at there game selection policy. This week for example is Hamilton v Rangers hardly going to be a classic!
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Old Reekies Big Team,

20/10/2008 12:59:12
#3 You may want to check the journalists name again?
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Pistol Pete,

20/10/2008 13:04:50
difference is that OF games have senseless, brainless, scary atmosphere and Edinburgh derbies are passionate. Difference between dog meat sandwiches and fillet steak in terms of meaningful and relevance to the fans v actual football (not bigotted, mindless drivel). It's not the OF fans fault though as they all need surgical interference.
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Broonie,

20/10/2008 13:10:13
I was thinking this was an OK piece until I read "Christian Nade also did well". I nearly choked on my single sausage. If it wasn't for his complete ineptiude we (I'm a Hibby) would have been beaten quite easily.
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CBJambo,

20/10/2008 14:00:21
#5
Redardless of the author... the sentiment is the same... a great game, a great advertisement for the spl and none of the bile fuelled religious bigotry claptrap that goes with an OF derby.

Well done Edinburgh!
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 14:54:09
typical of you reekies, Celtic dont have a problem with sectarian or racism, but it looks like the edinburgh derby will be a thing of the past soon,
the song will be, "flats flats glorious flats"
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 15:34:31
Royalty,
yer drivilling excrement, but I expect no more from you, explain the sectarian or racist singing, had this discussion there are none, just the offensive political songs that you clowns try to label sectarian.
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qohldr,

20/10/2008 16:05:15
I watched the game in a mates local down Yorkshire yesterday, apart from being the only supporter I was the only Scot in the place.
The reaction of the others in the place to the game was unreal, they were more animated than I was.
They were still talking about how good a game it was when I left at 9pm.
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Steve_HMFC,

20/10/2008 16:11:07
It was a good game, shame you slightly ruined it with your commentary Lovell
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 16:11:52
Royalty,
your lost in the mud because you are stupid, simple as that.

No one is burying their heads except the scotlands shame, and as usual they are trying to bring in everyone else to try and cover their mess, aberdeen song about the ibrox disaster, they tried to say we sung it, not sectarian or racist, offensive yes illegal no.
nachonovo song, offensive, yes, illegal no, IRA songs offensive, yes, illegal no.
your stupidity must be a result of your education, and you want to educate us, ha
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20/10/2008 16:17:54
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 16:26:34
nineinro,
what you babbling about, your in denial there is no bigotry in my post, but typically your tiny twisted mind attempts to ridicule the truth. As usual you will not attempt to make any argument, because your caught rotten so you fall back on your tried ant tested ways, name calling and hoping it will stick, well kiddo, its not sticking anymone, everyone can see your poison and you are under scrutiny from europe, where strangely enough you dont have the press in your pocket, so expect the worst and try and blame everyone around you.
A bit like manchester if you like, eh
"big bad boys done it and ran away"
Remember clown they are watching you, no us. We get prizes for our behaviour.
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CBJambo,

20/10/2008 16:32:09
canamalar: not a bigot but a patronising bigot... worse if you could believe it.
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 16:35:03
CBJambo, how do you reach that conclusion ??
go on explain ?

Oh and who will you be supporting next year eh if the jambo's go under, will it be the other edinburgh team or will it be your sectarian brothers in the west ?
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Black Five,

edinburgh 20/10/2008 16:40:37
Sorry got the wrong writer.Stuart Lovell you certainly must be blinkered mate.A decent game with not a lot of skill.Both sides could have won but for some inept finishing.Not for the purist but the real thing that comes out of this game is that they are both well short of a challenge to the o/f.Remember Vlad said we`d challenge and he sells Bednar and Velicka.How Hearts could do with thenm now.The man`s a ballon.See also some Russian is suing him for 7 M allegedly defrauded.He`s defrauded Hearts by well over that amount by selling on players and not puting anything back in top replace them..
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 16:40:41
#19, the difference is quite simple really, some are illegal and some are not, but when the police take no action against people who break the law, there is a bigger problem, institutional bigotry is at work.
Then scotlands shame is seen by the world as an institutional problem.

Royalty,
as expected no arguments just a simple minded dig, yes we'll be in manchester tomorrow night, regardless of the result we will be welcomed back anytime.
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20/10/2008 16:42:37
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20/10/2008 16:47:22
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20/10/2008 16:51:22
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 17:23:18
Surprise surprise a thick pack of troll scum,

#25 the famine song is illegal and the only reason we are hearing about any other song is they have been caught rotten and have nowhere to run. No-one else sing illegal songs in scotland.

nineinaro,
you are as eloquent as yer thick pal royalty did you suckle form the same sheep.
Still no an argument from either of you just some juvinile name calling, I take it you dont actually read this paper, as I suspect anything with more than 3 syllables would be all muddy eh.
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 17:27:31
#24
I'm still waiting for anyone to explain anything bigoted I've said, and you know, you cant simply because I've not said anything bigoted os sectarian, but not one of you have taken up this challnge. Why would that be I wonder eh?

Its because your all so sucked up in your own little sick twisted world you cant see or smell how bad you are.
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 17:29:30
royalty,
"those big bad nasty rangers fans", would that be the big bad boys from down south who done it and ran away ?
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 17:35:42
invictager
your scum because your selective argument style, I have explained the difference you requested and you come back with we should ban them all, give it a rest the scum dont care what we sing, its the fact we sing as equals that gets right up their noses, and as long as you stand at their back bleating about everybody being as bad as each other is lazy and dangerous. If we cant start with illegal songs then why bother at all, that is what they want.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 17:43:40
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Keyboard supporter,

20/10/2008 17:50:20
#34 - If you're not Idee/Obligor etc under yet another pseudonym methinks he may yet have a rival for supreme mullah of the online Sellik Taleban.

Just consumed by the hatred

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canamalar,

20/10/2008 18:24:01
#37
as I said it was your partizan argument style, you refuse to condemn their racist song, and attempt to colour everyone the same, a typical scummy argument.
Maybe you can poiint out some of the lyrics/songs you find offensive then. I dont know of any songs sung by the Celtic suppot which glorify's terrorism neither do I sing pro terrorist songs, I go to football and sing songs about Celtich football club and hasve never advocated the singing of republican/freedom/folk songs, but then Celtic have football songs, something our recist cousins have not seemed to manage quite yet eh
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 18:25:52
#37
for your information the only people who tried to blow up Glasgow where the so called unionists.
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 18:33:51
#36,
never heard of them, but its no exactly hard, the arguments here rarely get beyond name calling, and the brighter ones spend all their time trying to arrange the argument round thier own agenda, I've yet to meet one who will have an open debate acknowledging and accepting responsibility for their own wrongs, they always seem to have mitigating circumstances, like " a big boy made us do it"
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 19:32:01
All quasi-relgious/socio-political shoite aside.The OF match is car crash sport.You don't want to look,but you can't help yourself.
I have been to more OF games than I care to remember and must say its NOT the most ENJOYABLE experience.

That said,when you leave,with your shirt wet from the sweat on your back from either the excitement of winning or the numpty behind you crying his eyes out coz he cant face the rest of the weekend,it's a very heavy experience.

Sure, there have been great victories for either side (I tend to block out most of the 90's) but I was lucky to be at Ibrox,in 86 to see a 4-4 draw that was fabulous...Both teams playing out of their skins,fans behind them and an honourable draw..Only time I've seen BOTH sets of fans applaud the combatants off the field of play.

Now,I'm sure there are many on the East Coast who would disagree,but there is NO comparison with the Wild West Show.
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Keyboard supporter,

20/10/2008 19:43:32
#40 - Utter pseudo intellectual shoite from a stereotypical dhim!

Dhims like yourself are there to be mocked - you're as much an embarassment to your own side as the F T * brigade are to us
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20/10/2008 19:54:07
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Wee Pal Joe,

20/10/2008 19:56:42
"the famine song is illegal" (#30)

That remains to be seen. It has never been tested in court.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 20:11:01
For sheer NOBRAINERY (Copyright Swordsman)The Renfrewshire derby of St Mirrin V Morton takes some beating...nae agenda,just f**kin' hate them cos they urney frae here...Doh!
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Keyboard supporter,

20/10/2008 20:11:31
#47 - the illustrious doctor at darkheid says it is and his integrity is above reproach as we all know.

For all Bain/Murrays' perceived faults i'd have them anyday over that unprincipled slug - using his past reputation (sic) to get a job as chief propagandist whilst our fighting men and women die for practically nothing.
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jon doe,

20/10/2008 20:17:06
Nade should not be abused, the chalked off goal would of made up for several mistakes misses he made.
As for the quality of the match, the weather was terrible an misplased passes and players slipping or falling is bound to happen in those conditions.

Was a excellent match an both sides should be applauded for there efforts .
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canamalar,

20/10/2008 20:56:58
invictager,
I had no idea you were a supporter of scotlands shame, your aggument was loaded from the start, it begins with the premis that you already know what is offensive elst how could all offensive songs be banned, eh ?
"walk on" is deemed offensive, so who judges, if the words were written down without the tunes, howmany songs could/would be considered offensive, even proportionally (cause scotlands shame dont have many eh :oD)
as for tarring you all with the same brush its hard not to, I mean look at dumd and dumber with their obviously suprior intellect, the racist song is sung by the majority at Celtic park.
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20/10/2008 21:05:22
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20/10/2008 21:11:37
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they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 21:19:04
This must be the east coast vermin site. Get away back and W**K off tae setanta. Whos playing the morn. #59 You are both the shame & always will be. I would rather be a turd floating in a sewer in glenrothes or kirkcaldy that support either of the sectar bile. Goodbye.
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20/10/2008 21:20:18
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20/10/2008 21:22:51
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 21:35:36
Far too much pessimism on here.

I'm told that Evra has joined Hargreaves and Carrick on the injured list, Tevez is lacking match fitness, and Fergie is even contemplating resting Ronaldo.

That's half an outfield team missing, and this just has to be Celtic's night.

I reckon they could restrict Man Utd to 4 goals if they get their tactics spot on :)
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 21:38:44
JR

Remember Man Utd V Roma from a couple of seasons back.

'nuff said.
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20/10/2008 21:39:44
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 21:42:32
#71...I dunno? Maybe we could shrug our shoulders,say Thats Fitba'" and go for a wee beer with the locals..Or we could find a big screen that hudnae paid its TV licence and go mental...
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20/10/2008 21:46:20
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 21:46:48
Nah..Going to the Boozer with all the Man Utd fans..rip the micturation out of them...

Wont see the CP leg either as I've a gig that night..Thank god for Sky+
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20/10/2008 21:47:15
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 21:47:46
78..Shocking news...Only up side to the thing is that Davie Weir wont be retiring here ...
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20/10/2008 21:50:54
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 21:54:12
TnT..Going to see Seasick Steve at the National Concert Hall...New album is called "I started out with nothing,and I still got most of it left..." Could be a new Match day anthem for the Bears?
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 21:54:23
#78

Without giving my age away, I'm neither under 50 nor over 50.

In all seriousness, I think that Celtic have enough about them to keep the score down tomorrow night. I also reckon that Man Utd will ease off if they open a two-goal cushion. I previously said 4-1 but that was a worst-case scenario, IMO. 3-1 is more likely.

To be honest, I've never subscribed to the Man Utd haters club. I moved to England around the same time that Sir Alex did, and he's always had my support. I think that OT is one of the great footballing theatres, and there are few finer sights than the Red Devils in full flow. I'll watch it in very relaxed mode and applaud good football from either side. I'm optimistic of a good game.
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20/10/2008 21:56:19
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 21:58:34
BE as a Man City fan once told me " Thems not Manchester,Thems F**Kin SALFORD...We aint the only petty sort in the world whatever the EMBRA hoity toitys say.. ;@)
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:00:52
87..Thought you were alluding to the fact that in our budget last week,Brian Cowan TD (Total D**K) said that anyone over the age of 70 will be means tested for any future care...Makes my blood boil!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 22:01:20
Swordsman

As in "He painted Salford's smoky tops, on cardboard boxes from the shops"

now, where's me fookin flat cap and whippet?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:03:07
I believe the Nolans are considering emigrating...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:05:12
TnT check out Jools Hootenany at Ne'erday..Fab!

BE little known fact...That song by Brian and Michael has a middle eight that contains the name of an ex Celtic forward..Name him?
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 22:13:14
Swordsman

You've got me there, although I predict there's a joke coming.
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Private Pike,

20/10/2008 22:16:11
Man United 5 Celtic 0
The embarrassment that is Celtic joins the embarrassment that is Rangers.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:16:17
BE listen too the childrens choir refrain in the middle and they clearly sing ALIADIERE...check it!
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they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 22:16:47
Well that was interesting. The sectar bile site. What a gas.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:19:18
Am I right or am I right?
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 22:21:54
Swordsman

I'll have to check it out.

I love the whole misheard lyrics thing

Purple Haze...

"S'cuse me while I kiss this guy"
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:25:19
Worked with a guy years back who thought The Thompson Twins song "We are Detective" (Nae idea whit it meant either 'cept it was shoite) was actually "WE order Taxis" makes more sense really...
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 22:25:38
then there's the ABBA classic..

"Honey I'm still free, Jackie Chan's on me"
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they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 22:25:52
#102 I nearly pis*ed myself. You pair talk to each other about football. you wouldnt know what a football was if it came up and smacked you on the puss.
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they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 22:25:53
#102 I nearly pis*ed myself. You pair talk to each other about football. you wouldnt know what a football was if it came up and smacked you on the puss.
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they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 22:26:19
twice
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:29:09
"Song for Kris Boyd..Dire Straits..."Money for nothing,and chips for tea..." ITHAGYEW!
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they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 22:31:29
#112 Nearly p*ss*d myself again. This is better than watching jack dee.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:33:36
A song for aw you Gadgies oot there from the great Dick Gaughan...A salutary tale of ignorance and prejudice...

Ma name's Duncan Campbell fae the shire o Argyll
A've traivellt this country for mony's the mile
A've traivellt thro Irelan, Scotlan an aa
An the name A go under's bauld Erin-go-Bragh

Ae nicht in Auld Reekie A walked doun the street
Whan a saucy big polis A chanced for tae meet
He glowert in ma face an he gied me some jaw
Sayin whan cam ye owre, bauld Erin-go-Bragh?

Well, A am not a Pat tho in Irelan A've been
Nor am A a Paddy tho Irelan A've seen
But were A a Paddy, that's nothin at aa
For thair's mony's a bauld hero in Erin-go-Bragh

Well A know ye're a Pat by the cut o yer hair
Bit ye aa turn tae Scotsmen as sune as ye're here
Ye left yer ain countrie for brakin the law
An we're seizin aa stragglers fae Erin-go-Bragh

An were A a Pat an ye knew it wis true
Or wis A the devil, then whit's that tae you?
Were it no for the stick that ye haud in yer paw
A'd show ye a game played in Erin-go-Bragh

An a lump o blackthorn that A held in ma fist
Aroun his big bodie A made it tae twist
An the blude fae his napper A quickly did draw
An paid him stock-an-interest for Erin-go-Bragh

Bit the people cam roun like a flock o wild geese
Sayin catch that daft rascal he's killt the police
An for every freen A had A'm shair he had twa
It wis terrible hard times for Erin-go-Bragh

Bit A cam tae a wee boat that sails in the Forth
An A packed up ma gear an A steered for the North
Fareweill tae Auld Reekie, yer polis an aa
An the devil gang wi ye says Erin-go-Bragh

Sae come aa ye young people, whairever ye're from
A don't give a damn tae whit place ye belang
A come fae Argyll in the Heilans sae braw
Bit A ne'er took it ill bein caad Erin-go-Bragh


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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:35:13
#113

I believe "Tena Lady" could relieve you of such a distressing condition...
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they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 22:36:01
Thats sportscene on. half of you can go and W*n* off to sellick now.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:36:29
117..Get "Handful of Earth by Dick Gaughan...Best song is Westlin' wind by Rabbie his self..fabulous!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:39:51
118

You can afford a telly but not Pampers..poor prioritising there mate...Still I suppose the novelty of watching "Strictly Come Dancing" is worth the nappy rash...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:41:11
121...Crimewatch has him in Ashton Lane on Aug 31st if that helps...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 22:45:42
TnT ..The Gaughan version is about prejudice and the problem of preconceived notions...Jock Tamsons Bairns etc

There is an Irish song of the same name but I dont know it...
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/10/2008 22:54:59
invictager

Can't be as good as this one.

the guy doesn't just bury the header, he actually sets it up with a beautiful lob first!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAc8JooS3MY&feature=related
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/10/2008 23:01:14
Great song written by Sean Tyrell from a poem by a Presbytarian Minister about our diffs etc..Made me think

Check it out on Cry of a Dreamer by Sean Tyrell or Cathy Ryan

Come pledge again your heart and your hand
One grasp that never will sever
Our password be our native land
Our motto, love forever
And let the orange lily be
Your badge, my patriot brother
It's the everlasting green for me
And we for one another

Behold how green the gallant stem
On which the flower is blooming
How in one heavenly breeze and beam
Both flower and stem are glowing
The same good soil sustaining both
Makes both united flourish
But cannot give the orange growth
And cease the green to nourish

The more the hand that plucks that flower
Will vainly strive to cherish
In that hour the stem blooms on
The flower, it begins to perish
Regard them then of equal worth
While last their genial weather
The time's at hand when deep in earth
They will both sink together

And though it be in our country's cause
Our party feelings blended
'Til lasting peace from equal laws
On both will have descended
'Til then the orange lily be
Your badge, my patriot brother
It's the everlasting green for me
And we for one another
And we for one another

And with that,I'm outta here ...Back in the Am..Peace!
86

they aint won the cup since 1902,

20/10/2008 23:01:38
MANCHESTER BRACES ITSELF FOR INFLUX OF 10,000 CELTIC FANS.... Glasgow smells better !
87

Daillyman,

20/10/2008 23:21:02
Hello all from Myrtle Beach, sunny and 20c today. Good to see everyone having a good night. Golf is fantastic here.

Hey Swordsman does the sun every shine in Dublin, wife just told me showers on and off all day.

I'll catch you later in the week, a few cold ones in the pub awaits.

The tic match on ESPN tomorrow, should be interesting.
88

BABYLOU,

20/10/2008 23:50:10
#133

where about in myrtle beach are you staying?? We were over there in July/August had a fantastic time
89

Daillyman,

21/10/2008 04:02:04
Seamist on Ocean Blvd South.
90

Daillyman,

21/10/2008 04:14:08
Played the Tradition Golf course, The Pearl and The Witch.

Still to play, Prestwick, Aberdeen and True Blue before the end of the week.
91

FFF,

21/10/2008 11:47:02
Thank god!.....Looks like the Buckie's run out...for now!

 

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