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Published Date: 05 November 2009
HIBS boss John Hughes today insisted the pressure is all on Hearts as the Capital's big two prepare to do battle in the first Edinburgh derby of the season.
Hughes will take his side to Gorgie at lunchtime on Saturday 11 points ahead of their biggest rivals and seeking to widen that gap to 14 points as the first round of fixtures in the SPL programme comes to an end.

But, while adamant that's the targ
et, Hughes warned his players that he believes Csaba Laszlo's team, who are eighth with just nine points from their opening ten matches, lie in a false position.

He said: "I do think the pressure is on them, they have to start winning football matches. They are at home and it is up to them to come out and win it.

"As such, it is going to be an interesting game tactically and I'm looking forward to that battle as well."

Hughes is already on record as saying that if he'd been offered 20 points at this stage of the season he'd have jumped at it but, while delighted with the start his side have made, he warned: "I've been in the game long enough to know there are highs and lows.

"We've had a right good start, but as I keep saying, we have done nothing yet, there is still a long, long way to go."

And, while many Hibs fans are salivating at the prospect of putting further distance between themselves and Hearts, Hughes had another word of caution.

He said: "I honestly feel Hearts are in a false position. I've seen them on a number of occasions. They are a good side and I feel they won't be far away from where they want to be at the end of the day.

"But Saturday is a game we are all looking forward to, we know how important it is, not least for the supporters. We want to win and for them to have the bragging rights. However, we can't let ourselves get too excited, we have to remain cool, calm and collected.

"As is always said on these occasions, the form book goes right out the window. We have to apply ourselves, keep our concentration. Derbies often come down to who has that wee bit of a maverick in their team to win the game and I think we can do that.

"It is not going to be an easy game, football never is, but we'll be going out there to give it a go, for my boys to go out there and express themselves."

Hughes was hoping Moroccan playmaker Merouane Zemmama, forced to limp out of the action after just 15 minutes against Aberdeen last weekend, would train today having received intensive treatment all week on the groin injury he sustained.

Laszlo will be forced into at least one change with Eggert Johnsson suspended following his red card in the defeat by Motherwell at Fir Park, a match skipper Michael Stewart missed through injury.

Hughes, though, insisted: "I've a sneaking wee feeling there may be one or two surprises in their team selection but we have to be prepared for everything. It doesn't matter who plays, we will be prepared for what will be their strongest possible side."





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1

jambtastic,

05/11/2009 11:27:27
Hearts aren't in a false position as they have been playing very poor as they have a weakened squad this year . Hibs are in a false position as we all know that Celtic and Rangers always accomodate 1st and 2nd spots in Scottish Football as it is the law set out by the SFA . I think Hibs keep the same formation and tactics that have got then into 2nd spot this season and Hearts will keep playing the same formation and tactics that have got them into 8th from top . Doubt Hearts get a goal from open play , Hibs on the other hand have many attacking options . 0-0
2

Neutral Observer,

05/11/2009 11:38:57
#1 jambtastic

Dont follow your logic (or lack of it). If Hibs have many attacking options, Hearts have been playing poorly, Hearts would not get a goal from open play, then why would the game end as a 0 - 0?

More likely, by your logic, a narrow win for Hibs.
3

hibbywul,

05/11/2009 12:03:35
Hibs to win 2-0
4

Uncle Albert Grant Johnstone,

2nd Top 05/11/2009 12:04:46
Hearts 0 Hibernian 4
5

The Wookie,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 12:07:34

I think it will be a good game for once.

I fear for my beloved Jambo's if Hibs get an early goal...

The only consoling factor for me is that i will be viewing the game from the sports bar in the Hamilton Princess Hotel in Barbados...

Well a Wookie does reguire some winter sun on his fur!!!!
6

Jenks,

05/11/2009 12:11:06
No idea what the score will be Im just looking forward to it!

Mon the Hearts!
7

Jambos,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 12:13:32
Put it this way...they are scoring goals and we couldn't score if we were shooting fannie's in a barrel. I would bite the hand off now that offered me a draw.
8

True Jambo,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 12:13:49
1-0 hearts
9

Hugh Phamism,

05/11/2009 12:17:38
#5

You sure Wook's. I am just back from Barbados and couldn't get any of the Scottish games. I don't think ESPN has any contracts with Fox Soccer Channel or the likes to show the games yet.

'Mon the JT's......
10

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 12:20:45
4~
Lets try and be realistic if you lot do win ther wont be a 4 nill victory the most 1 goal of a diffrence
11

MO1875,

05/11/2009 12:21:57
i hope that they do come out and try to attack us it will make for a far better game.i'm confident we can shade this one,we always make chances and have the players to take them.bouzzid does not look clever atall and i'd get at him as much as possible.I just cant see a massive goal threat from the jambos,driver is dangerous but who else? if we keep it tight at the back i fancy us big time.
12

Chas Niceass,

05/11/2009 12:25:29
I'm not worried about Saturday at all. Historically whenever Hearts need a pick me up, Hibs are always there to oblige.
Neighbours, everybody needs good neighbours....
13

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

05/11/2009 12:25:58
On paper and going by form Hibs should win this game easily.....................However this is not a normal game. I have a horrible feeling that Nade just might stick one in the back of the net for once, and cause a wee upset for us hibees.

Just remember we were rank last season but still took 8pts of Hearts, role reversal this season.

Moan the Hibs


We will still finish in 2nd or 3rd tho.
14

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 12:27:44
11~
You could all be in for a suprise that could if it happens which I hope you SAD BOS get gubbed spoil the rest of the season for you has Yogi said we are in a false position but so are the hobos even mopre than us if I was you enjoy while you can because it wont last much longer and if you ger gubbed on Saturday that will be the start of your decline
15

Tic Toc..... sell the big pink bus shelter,

05/11/2009 12:30:37
#14

Idiot, as my post above just look at last season, Hibs never lost a league game against you and we were mince, but you still went on to finish 3rd. 1 game does not make or break your season.
16

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 12:31:01
13
Hey Tic Toc thats the clock ticking away for you lot no way you will finish 2nd in this season ans as for 3rd now way either you finsh in your uysal 5th or 6th position unless the season this year ends in january 2010
17

1875,

05/11/2009 12:31:03
#14- Freddie...tell you what, that was a tough read!
Try punctuation mate...please!
18

Neutral Observer,

05/11/2009 12:31:08
#11 MO1875

So you like to keep it tight at the back?

Actually, to be serious, that is actually Hib's weak spot. For all he has improved, Bamba is still prone to forget he is not playing in midfield and tries to be too clever thus getting caught in possession. Hogg is uncertain and Wotherspoon is an excellent footballer but not good defensively. The tough tackling Murray is sound at left full back. Here is my forecast of the Hibs team:

Stack, McCormack, Hogg, Bamba, Murray
Wotherspoon, McBride, Miller, Riordan
Stokes, Benji

Subs: Makalambay, Nish, Thicot, Stevenson, Byrne, Galbraith, Cregg
19

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 12:32:55
15#
Hey Tic Toc we will see who his the IDIOT at the end of the season
20

1875,

05/11/2009 12:34:04
#18- So you writing Zouma off then? If he is indeed out for Saturday I think you are spot on re the selection/formation
21

Jambo83,

05/11/2009 12:35:30
Anyone who brags about what their team is going to do before the derby is a fool.

I'll do my usual, have a few pints beforehand, cheer on my team, expect the worst, hope for the best and hope that we can finish off one or two of the chances that we'll create
22

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 12:39:24
21
The only ones that are braging are the Hobos ther so full of it ans put sh infront
23

Neutral Observer,

05/11/2009 12:43:02
#20 1875

We have seen over the last 3 years that the Moroccans, good players as they are, dont like to play with a slight injury. When Zemmama came on against Celtic after missing several games with his thigh injury, he ran about at half speed holding his leg and telling everybody he was not right. I suspect he will not be played on Saturday, especially if Morocco have an international the following Saturday. Wotherspoon is, to my way of thinking, a more natural deputy than Byrne, especially in an away match. McCormack has enough speed to match Driver in my opinion and will try to jockey him wide. So that's why I have gone with that selection. Nish should make an appearance too replace Benji in the second half.
24

Hibee Kev,

Corstorphine 05/11/2009 12:48:11
#21 Well said, a voice of reason! I feel exactly the same. Here are some recent examples of why the form team should never be too confident going into a derby:

2009: Hearts 0 Hibs 1 (Hibs with half a team, Herts going for 3rd spot, many jambos predicting an annihilation)
2007: Hibs 0 Hearts 1 (Game after the CIS cup final, Hibs make ill-fated decision to parade the cup at FT)
2006: Hibs 2 Hearts 1 (Hibs pumped in previous derby encounter, Hearts going for 2nd, the much-maligned Benji nets the winner)
25

dyon gollins's back,

Den Haag 05/11/2009 12:48:25
Not sure about the logic of this piece - John Hughes' job is to pick a team to put pressure on the opposition on the park. The story as written is about his view that there is an onus on the Hertz because they're at home, have not been getting results lately and their supporters always expect a win against Hibs at the bus shelter. So far so good.

Myself I think the pressure is all on Hibs who are sitting way up the League and will want to defend that situation by putting in as good a perfomance as possible. That means playing to the top of their form, throughout the team and ignoring the abuse from the maroon hordes - no easy job but it's been done before and it does come down to careful defending, especially at the beginning and end of the game, as well as positive, creative attacking football throughout.

JH is entirely right to urge a calm souch - let's hope the lads can do it and also that there's a good game of football with no rash or malicious tackles and unwise outbursts on either side; it could/should be a great afternoon's football!!!
26

10-1 figment if imagination. 7-0 rules,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 12:49:34
#22 - No sensible Hibbies are bragging before a ball is kicked. It's a derby, it will take care of itself.

Oh and erm, for what it's worth.... I think it will be 8-0 for Hibs.
27

Heedbanger,

05/11/2009 12:50:57
Rangers would wipe the floor with a best select XI of Hertz and Fibs.

End of discussion.

28

kop1875,

Dundee 05/11/2009 12:53:59
Freddie you are dreaming again. Us Hibees are not bragging we as well as most of the sensible Yams know that this is a derby and that it could go either way. On form Hibs should win but that means nothing. remember the last game between us at the PBS most Yams were bleating that they would smash 3 or 4 past us. We all know what happened don't we.

GGTTH
29

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 12:54:30
27
You lot are only good for one thing usinf a mop and bucket thats the only floor you players will be wiping soon especially after last nights proformance the Pride of Scotland by back side
30

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

05/11/2009 12:55:29
#27
"Wipe the floor" would imply a knowledge of cleaning products.

Don't stray on to subjects that you have no frame of reference to.
31

kop1875,

05/11/2009 12:56:12
27# I can smell a soap dodger go back to your Weegie cave.
32

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 12:58:11
28
Kop not bragging there a first you lot are so up yourselfs you cant see the reason for the sh it infront of your eyes
33

Roy of the Rovers,

05/11/2009 13:00:12
My whole work force is trying to work this one out ?



16
Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,05/11/2009 12:31:01
13
Hey Tic Toc thats the clock ticking away for you lot no way you will finish 2nd in this season ans as for 3rd now way either you finsh in your uysal 5th or 6th position unless the season this year ends in january 2010
34

enough!,

edinburgh 05/11/2009 13:02:55
#21, Jambo83

concur completely! For me, these games provide an opportunity to showcase Edinburgh and the derby while completely sticking it right to these weedgies and their sycophnatic media pals!!!

mon the hibees! (1-1 for me though)
35

A Jambo come rain or shine,

05/11/2009 13:04:09
#27 Rangers can't wipe their own ar5e5 without checking with Lloyds first so beat it!
36

Heedbanger,

05/11/2009 13:04:23
#29
#30
#31

The truth hurts. Us Glaswegians like to remind the mugs fi the Toon who own the league. How many titles?? Thank you.

Back to sleep!!
37

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 13:05:32
25
The only hoods are not in Maroon but are in green ansd as if when we go Fester raod you are nice and polite and do not shout abuse at us ,people in glass house should not throw stones
38

enough!,

05/11/2009 13:08:12
freddy,

please stop! your replies are really sore!

cheers
39

Phil MaGlass,

Holland 05/11/2009 13:10:05
He said: "I honestly feel Hearts are in a false position. I've seen them on a number of occasions. They are a good side and I feel they won't be far away from where they want to be at the end of the day.

you dont mean, champions league do you, teehee
40

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 13:11:04
36
Heedbanger thats suits all you misfit through in Glasgow if you lot are not sniffing it the Buck Fast how much have you drunk so far today at least the Edinburgh teams may not have won much so far buy you lot aand Smeltic are a laughing stock in Europe even the weaker teams in Europe want to play you lot in the UFEA and CL you are so easy be beat without breaking a sweat and as fro Ranger the easest group and you only got 2 points what a joke you lot are away back to you Bucck Fast and leave us Edinburgh boys to fight our own battles or do you not have paper in Glasgow apart from the one ypu get your fish suppers in
41

Dick C. Normuss,

05/11/2009 13:12:21
Nice comma Freddy, but the space should be after it not before.
I'm waiting for Rollands prediction before going to the bookies.
42

Phil MaGlass,

Holland 05/11/2009 13:14:06
27# wipe the floor haha, away and wipe yir mooth after all that slaverin pi5h.Yi couldnae even beat a team wae the name urine,so who just is takin the pee.
Oh aye, big well done to Nacho Nuffin efter last nights implosion,English premier,mair likes Scottish 1st, yir huvvin a larf eh. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
43

Neutral Observer,

05/11/2009 13:14:31
The comments were quite sensible here till the fools arrived. Do the schools close early on a Friday?
44

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 13:16:07
33
Your whole work forse must be as dim as you then mate if you do not understand it ,it means you idiot no way you will finish at the end of this sean 2nd or 3rh do I have to spell it out to you
45

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 13:18:32
43
It only thurday today mate I take it you just come back home fronm the Duncan Clinic
46

Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos,

05/11/2009 13:20:01
41
Not got time to put the commas in busy working and trying type at the same time gets a bit confusing for me
47

Victoria Ian,

Leith 05/11/2009 13:24:09
I have a feeling that it'll be 1-0 to the other lot but we'll obviously finish well above them this season.
48

Rolland,

05/11/2009 13:29:23
Keep it up hobos, loving these predictions of 4 nil, you'll never score 4 at tynie.

It makes the fall all the harder and thus sweeter for the mighty JT's. Your sitting in a very false position, the last few seasons have shown everyone your level is 7th place in the SPL, can't see that changing this year Yogi has never managed a team to those lofty height.
49

Skullduggery,

05/11/2009 13:29:55
This thread reminds me of a Fruitshop !
Loads and loads of plums...............

Am i right FREDDIE THE DREAMBOAT.

ggtth

Hearts 0 - Hibernian 3.
50

Kimura,

right here 05/11/2009 13:32:24
Hughes impresses me, and I'm a Hearts man.
I can honestly see him moving on to a big club one day.
51

Edinburghs Only Big Team!,

Tynecastle 05/11/2009 13:39:43
Well said Hughes I can honestly say he is the only Hibs manager to comem out & show Hearts respect! I dont mind hughes & he deserves alot of praise for where he is taking Hibs!

Hearst 1 Hibs 0 is my prediction
52

Rolland,

05/11/2009 13:41:50
I think Hughes knows that the Hobos are the wee team, I mean he grew up in Leith so looks like he has accepted it, as it the way of things he is saying the pressure is on the big team, the wee rarely win these derby encounters and he knows it, so the pressure isn't on the hobos, anything they can get from Tynie is a bonus.
53

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 13:44:11
44

please dont spell it out! Not without isomeone checking it first. You really are thick.....stop typing like you are talking to your screen, you are either a teenager or just beyond help.....anyone with a number for Learn Direct Scotland......"the big plus for me is, ah kin git an the Edinburgh Evening News forum and post like an adult" deary me

BOTTYBANGER

You inbred clarty rangers hobbit.....that will be all, apart fromm

Tiocfaidh ar la - Erin Go Bragh - Yer team are mince and G.I.R.F.U.Y
54

Rambo The Jambo,

05/11/2009 13:45:03

I don't give a flying F. what the score is or who wins. You win some, you lose some, so what.

We've been doing this for 100 years, who cares whether Hibs are above Hearts, or the other way round.

The bottom line is NEITHER team is good enough to win anything now or in the near future.

Hibbies......enjoy it while it lasts, you only get this sort of excitement about once every twenty years or so.


55

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 13:47:24
Rollie.....you've been raiding the tuck shop for fizzy cola bottles again! Getting a little carried away with your overtly large self again are we?

We couldn't score 4 at tyinie? we scored 7 there before.

Now instead of trying to provoke a reaction from goo Hibbys, why dont you get the black binliner suit on and hop on the treadmill for half a hour or zammo will be taking Justine to the School dance again this year
56

enough!,

05/11/2009 13:48:08
Rolland - gonna explain in more than one word (hearts) exactly what a big team is, how you determine and measure this and reasons why Hearts fit into the big team category. Please becuase I would like to know how it all works and exactly where the arrogance comes from??
57

Edinburghs Only Big Team!,

Tynecastle 05/11/2009 13:50:11
55#

You still going on about the 7-0 win about decades ago! If thats the case then please dont let the 4-0 hammering out of the scottish cup! slip yer mind because I would have the 7-0 thumping anyday over teh scottish cup!
58

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 13:51:15
RTJ

You dont care who wins????? Why folow a team at all then, or is that just your way of dealing with the fact you expect a pummeling?

Who cares whether Hearts are above Hibs? Me and every other football fan.

Neither team is good enough to win anything? I'll start with the derby as it is the next game and work from there. I most definately care who wins and where we are in the league......

what a bizarre post indeed, is that the lacklustre support Hearts have these days.....your indifference says it all really!
59

Edinburghs Only Big Team!,

Tynecastle 05/11/2009 13:52:15
56# I can tell you! its a true fact that Hearts have the 3rd biggest fan base in scottish football & also we have a bigger stadium, won more cups & consistantly finish above Hibs in the Leauge.

Thats what is meant about BIG team & WEE team.
60

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 13:53:37
57/

sorry i dont speak swahili, what do you prefer, i am genuinley lost?
61

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 13:55:51
59

by your reasoning then .....as you have a bigger stadium than Hibs (albeit a farking slum that is falling down) and have won more cups than Hibs.....taht makes you a big team?

Barcelona and Real Madrid must be sh1tt1ng it!!

Big team......hahahahahahaha 8th in the SPL.....aye yer HUGE!
62

enough!,

05/11/2009 13:55:59
Rolland...

and as far as being in a flase position goes, and to quote a good jambo friend of mine..."doesn't matter what you think, the results are important and you sit in the table due to the points you have gained!"

Jealousy is a terrbile thing! yes we are up at the moment but nobody knows better than us hibby's how quickly this changes but...for goodness sake show some decorum in your responses...
63

BigRobbo1980 ,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 13:57:21
#56

The only reason we call ourselves the Big Team is to wind Hibs fans up....like your good self. Neither team is paricularly big but Hearts have slightly more support re season tickets etc..

It's like Hibs fans saying that Hearts play in a Pink Bus Shelter when it's not pink(but is a bus shelter) and also that Hibs play great football - when they don't.

SIMPLES!
64

Johnny7,

PBS on Saturday 05/11/2009 13:57:52
Wee team this, wee team that - yawn. Hearts are the club of the establishment and the forelock tuggers who kowtow to them. By definition there will be more of you than us. Guess what, us tousled-haired renegade warrior poets don't give a monkey's. Quality not quantity is what counts.
65

Rolland,

05/11/2009 13:58:45
#56 - Just look at the average gates, I'll make it easy for you, just take this season when your flying playing your mythical falir fitbaw and are 2nd, were are garbage, can't score and lying 8th, still got the bigger crowds.

Take the derby record of each team, take the major honours won, take the number of European games, take league positions (at the end of the season) and you will see where I am coming from.
66

enough!,

05/11/2009 14:01:28
#57 edinburgh only big team??

Is that the best you can give a public forum? more cups, bigger stadium and, ahem, 4billion fans but that's the criteria for which you determine make hearts the big team?

Fantastic!



67

BigRobbo1980 ,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 14:01:44
As for the derby on Saturday - it will be a terrible game - probably 0v0 maybe 1v0 penalty to Hearts.

See Scotland's shame were at it last night eh! Scum.

Should be banned from Europe.
68

Gordon Smiths 364,

Tunisia, 05/11/2009 14:02:15
It looks like its going to be an interesting derby, can't make it myself but will be watching it on my laptop in the hotel.

Even though Hibs are the form team it could go either way but, I'll stick my neck out and go for a 1-2 to Hibs, Stokesy and Deeks for one each, the ball to hit off of Nades ar$e for the hertz goal.

Mon the Cabbage!
69

enough!,

05/11/2009 14:05:38
63 bigrobbo,

The wind-up has gone past this as a good majority of hearts fans(particularly on here)believe it!

Doesn't wind me up - I find it extremely funny!


65

glad you cleared that up for me and no I don't want to see where you come from.
70

Rolland,

05/11/2009 14:05:44
#68 We won't loose a goal on Saturday, defence is solid at Tynie. I'll take one of Nades backside though.
71

Rolland,

05/11/2009 14:07:25
#69 Take the green tinted specs of for a momemnt then, how about Hampden 2nd April 2006, Big team, all tickets sold, we team eh, big vast open spaces with empty seats. Now I don't think that will help you much but there you go.
72

Fowlin Wolf,

05/11/2009 14:08:29
Only one winner in this derby match.

The team beginning with the letter H.

The team whose manager is almost indecipherable.

The team backed by an illusive millionaire.

Only one winner - Hibs.

73

Dood,

05/11/2009 14:10:14
#67 Robbo

I like your style! For the last couple of days, the bigots have been out in force, twisting the EEN moderators arm and forcing him to pull Edinburgh Teams threads.

Funny how the likes of the Pundit, BTO (or whatever he calls himself now), Nineinarow etc etc have gone into hiding after SCOTLANDS SHAME once again heaped SHAME on themselves. Utter crettins.

With regard to the derby - it probably will be a total non-event. Hibs have done well and are playing good football, Hearts have not and will have a big point to prove.

It all adds up to a honking game, either nin-nil or settled with a goalmouth stramash in the opening minutes followed by absolute gash.

But don't you just love it!!!
74

MADHIBBY70,

05/11/2009 14:10:34
1 Celtic Park Glasgow 60,832 Celtic
2 Hampden Park Glasgow 52,103 Queen's Park and Scotland
3 Ibrox Stadium Glasgow 51,082 Rangers
4 Pittodrie Stadium Aberdeen 22,199 Aberdeen
5 Rugby Park Kilmarnock 18,128 Kilmarnock
6 Easter Road Edinburgh 17,500 Hibernian
7 Tynecastle Stadium Edinburgh 17,420 Heart of Midlothian


just to let u guys know facts :)
75

enough!,

05/11/2009 14:12:47
71, rolland,

Keep clutching!

I want better reasoning than this becuse all you are giving me is a narrow-minded self-gratifying view!

76

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 14:15:16
wife basher was on here earlier though.....i found it halarious the one "Ahm mental come ahead" guy trying ti rip of a seat couldn't do so just banges his chest instead.....if it didnt drag the rest of Scotland into it, i would be p!shing myself.
77

Neutral Observer,

05/11/2009 14:18:20
#65 Rolland

It is true that Heart's average gates are consistently higher than Hibs, there can be no dispute about that. Hibs management do tell us that the crowd figures they publish are fans through the turnstyles as opposed to counting season tickets whether the holder turns up or not. Not sure if its the same at Tynecastle.

So why should this be so? One possible explanation is that, while they say you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time, the case of Hearts fans turning up consistently to watch garbage is surely the exception that proves the rule!
78

Roscoe P Coltrane,

05/11/2009 14:26:13
76 -and of course it was the fault of Unirea/UEFA/The big boy wot dun it but ran away, and nothing to do with the poor wee put-upon completely-non-violent scumbag PEEPUL.

Denial. The Rangers way for over 100 years.
79

Rolland,

05/11/2009 14:29:02
#77 So are you saying Hearts are publishing rubbish figures and they aren't at the game, now why would they do that?
80

MO1875,

05/11/2009 14:36:35
#74 it will be even bigger when the new stand eventually goes up mate! unless that joker romanov builds his 50 million stand/hotel which will house the 400,000 fans that they have.
#54 you honestly dont care what the score is or the fact we're well ahead in the league.weirdest thing i've ever heard pal...well apart from world cup stars and bigger than barca and all that nonsense.i most definately care what the score will be! along with every other hearts and hibs fan out there???
81

big bucks,

05/11/2009 14:41:38
73 dood

The seville stutgartt thread was pulled today main cause was ninero.

The scotland thread will be next,althogh ninnro was pulled after 20 minutes.
82

Edinburghs Only Big Team!,

Tynecastle 05/11/2009 14:47:08
74#

Hearts
Location – Edinburgh
Stadium – Tynecastle park
Capacity – 18300

Hibernian
Location – Edinburgh
Stadium – Easter road Stadium
Capacity – 17500
One of two big stadiums located in Edinburgh as well as Tynecastle Park. Hibernian are another famous club, experiencing many major European nights at this deluxe football stadium.

Just for your facts

83

Edinburghs Only Big Team!,

Tynecastle 05/11/2009 14:51:36
66# Thats the basis that determines abou the size & volume of a club! not my rules just telling you the facts mucker!
84

Slobo,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 14:58:46
I think Hughes is getting his excuses in early, in case his high flying Hibs side come a crocker against the lowly 8th placed team in the league. If Hibs win, he can say it's because they've done really well against a team who ar better than their league position suggests, thus making Hibs look better. Win-Win then for his post match interview.
Incidentally, I don't think there's anything wrong with that, sensible way to play it.
My only confidence in getting a result from this game comes from the fact that I have no confidence in getting a result from this game. Gone along to many derbies expecting us to hammer Hibs and left bitterly disappointed at us not transforming our league form into a wonderful derby performance, and result. Maybe the shoe's on the other foot this time.....
85

BigRobbo1980 ,

Edinburgh 05/11/2009 14:58:47
#69

You wouldn't have mentioned it if it had not wound you up pal. Take it on the chin
86

enough!,

05/11/2009 15:09:02
#85

i'm fine with it, honestly - it doesn't really bother me just the 'jumping on the bandwagon' idiots who actually do believe it!

#74

How many seats did hearts lose due to the European rule? was three rows mains stand if I recall correctly??
87

MADHIBBY70,

05/11/2009 15:13:40
In 2005, the pitch dimensions were altered to meet UEFA standards, necessitating the removal of the lowest rows of seating in the Gorgie and Roseburn Stands. As a result, the overall capacity was reduced from 18,000 to 17,420
88

Neutral Observer,

05/11/2009 15:16:37
#79 Rolland

No, that's not what I am saying (that Heart's publish rubbish figures). I am just saying that I don't know if the figures they publish are on the same basis. I dont know. Do you?
89

Neutral Observer,

05/11/2009 15:20:26
#82

Is your source up to date? Or are you quoting the last time you forked out for a program (1979)?
90

Rambo The Jambo,

05/11/2009 15:25:29
# 58 DublinHibs DublinHibs


Because after 40 years of following Hearts I am now mature enough in footballing terms to realise that you are only as good as your last result.

As far as both Edinburgh teams go, I have been going to Derbies since 1968, so I think I am best placed to say, Who Gives A F.

Can you or anybody else honestly say how your team did in Derbies in 1939, 1949, 1959, 1969, 1979, 1989 or 1999 for that matter. Exactly.

You're only as good as your last derby win.

Some of you slavering muppets ought to get a life.



91

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

05/11/2009 15:37:17
The pressures on both teams, it's a derby after all and who wants to lose a derby. Can see what numbnut hughes is trying to do but as Hibs are aparantly going to win the league this season judging by the hobo fans i would say fibs have to be feeling a touch more pressure than norma. I'm confident Hearts will come flying out the blocks as we did against Zagreb after being written off and fibs are definate favourites but it's Hearts V Fibs and we all know what the fibees record is like in the derby don't we!!!
92

LyonHearts,

le teil 05/11/2009 15:57:29
#90 It seems like the roles have been reversed since season 2005-06 with Hibs in 2nd and us goin for the Diddy Cup!

I dinae really care if The Hibees are doin well for a change...I think we should consider ourselves a " cup team" this season as our league form is laughable quite honestly.

Should be an interesting first derby of the season anyway!

MTH
93

Rosscobhoy,

05/11/2009 16:01:34
Not been overly impressed by either team this season, but Hibs have a lot more up front and it should see them win comfortably. I would say though, that Hearts are due a big performance and if they get the kind of luck they enjoyed against my mob in the cup they could sneak it 1 nil again. Should be an interesting match, and i hope Hughes sends his team out to attack, would make it worth watching if he does.
94

Rambo The Jambo,

4-0 at Hampden 05/11/2009 16:02:17

# 92 LyonHearts

One good season in 20 and suddenly they are the bees knees. FFS who cares about their dismal derby record.

As long as we keep our great cup run going!
95

Dood,

05/11/2009 16:08:52
#90 Rambo

I'd have to agree.

Although I'd obviously like to see your lot taking a pumping, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

Win, lose or draw, I have a long standing agreement with my Yam pals that we meet up after the game and enjoy a good few pintos whilst disecting the game. No bile, no antagonising, just friendly banter. Some on these threads should perhaps look into adopting this idea.

Sadly, I'll not be at the game on Saturday and I will miss the banter. Because, you see, that's what it's all about - Banter. Failing to appreciate that could see some of our punters slip into the category which Old Firm morons belong in.
96

lewis1001,

05/11/2009 16:15:13
#91 no one said hibs are going to win the league, its just the fact we are the closest team in the league other than celtic or rangers to possibly mount a title challenge.

and so what if hibs are playing above themselves in second place, i'd much rather be their than 8th place. i think hibs will take the game on saturday, after all according to the news the hearts players are more concerned about receiving their bonuses. :)
97

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 16:30:17
no rambo

dont back track i'll refer you to your i dont care post:

"I don't give a flying F. what the score is or who wins. You win some, you lose some, so what.

We've been doing this for 100 years, who cares whether Hibs are above Hearts, or the other way round."

Glad to see your teams performance is of such little interest to you, why bother coming on here at all then?

I willre-iterate i always want to beat HEARTS and be above them in the league, however i will not judge my season on it as you are in my opinion too far behind, and without investment are in serious trouble.

I will reply to you comments on the postal workers when i have a chance
98

what a chancer,

up in the clouds 05/11/2009 16:30:32
yes the last time hughes had seen 20 points at this time of the season ,he was at celtic,i guess only riordan and murray are the only others to claim that bit of fame and glory.
99

what a chancer,

up in the clouds 05/11/2009 16:33:19
the view at the dublin end was no bad just a bit over from the half time scoreboard and away from the bampots.
100

Rolland,

05/11/2009 16:39:20
"yes the last time hughes had seen 20 points at this time of the season ,he was at celtic"

Or perhaps with the hobos in the 1st Division, mind you did Straener not beat them in those days - LOL.

He'll be glad of the points though, his aim is for 36 as that should see them safe for another year.
101

Skullduggery,

05/11/2009 16:54:14
100 Rolland,

I am presuming you are an adult?
if so what a damn well total embarrassment you are to the human race !
102

Skullduggery,

05/11/2009 16:58:00
91 The Gorgie Boys Are In Town

So its down to you calling a much superior manager to shabba numbnuts?

I ask myself are you an adult or just a born loser?

GGTTH
103

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 16:58:01
rollie pollie

14 poins clear of you on saturday.....how many games before hertz even get 14 points......you boys are on a seriously sticky wicket. Far better to familiarise yourself with hibs openiing day fixtures in div 1, or indeed our scottish cup record, what a radge!

Hertz free fall continues on Saturday, bucket and spade for the beach anyone??? i will be "OSTRICH"sized for those comments from hibbys who hate a predictions
104

hibeeboy,

05/11/2009 17:01:00
No65 Rolland,,,The only reason Hearts have bigger gates this season is they charge about £3 for a childs season ticket....So you have about 8,000 that took advantage of that...GGTTH
105

Skullduggery,

05/11/2009 17:02:24
Have to ask this question which one of you are the father of Freddy And The Dreamers Team Jambos?

ho ho ho.... 91 or 100
106

kiwidoug,

lower Hutt 05/11/2009 17:04:04
Where are all my mates like Hibbie tonight? Hope the nerves haven't got the better of them.

Nerves have certainly got the better of Dublin Hibs. He is rambling on worse than ever.

While I increasingly feel that my confidence in the Jambos doing the domestic treble this year was mis-placed, I have a sneaky feeling that we will start on the road to recovery with a 3 or 4-1 win on Saturday.

This contradicts my earlier prediction that the cabbages would win 20-0.

I had a hangover when I predicted that.
107

Roy of the Rovers,

05/11/2009 17:06:29
kiwidoug

Have a bit of a flute here me think.
108

Roy of the Rovers,

05/11/2009 17:07:45
The gorgie hertz wont score three goals in a game even if they get spartans at tinycastle in scottish cup.
109

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

05/11/2009 17:11:14
Why would Heart Of Midlothian fear a micky mouse team that hasn't won the National Trophy for nearly 110 years, you must ask yourself!!
110

Rolland,

05/11/2009 17:12:52
#103 Thats it Dublin, keep those predictions and the misplaced confidence coming, I'm lovin it lovin it lovin it. It makes your fall all the more harder and more enjoyable for the Jambos, oh how we will be laughing at the muppets in the school end on Saturday, full of confidence, we all know whats coming once derby day is here a packed Tynie getting behind the team and stuffing you lot. Nothing like a good pumping of the hobos to get us back on track.

104 - Do tell where these £3 season tickets you talk of are from, must be some dodgy bloke in the boozer selling counterfets aa its not possible to get one at that price. More fibs and lies peddled by the hobos.

Well come Saturday the truth will be out and we will see how bad the hobos really are, 3 - 0 the Hearts, Driver and Glen x 2.

I'll be on here Saturday evening, will the hobos, nah. I might be a bit worse for wear after a few celeratory shandies.
111

Skullduggery,

05/11/2009 17:15:54
Ten Men Couldnae Carry, Couldnae Carry Nade!
Ten Men Couldnae Carry, Couldnae Carry Nade!
Ten Men Couldnae Carry, Couldnae Carry Nade!


I've been told there will be a minutes silence at the castle in gurgie at the weekend. i hope both sets of fans behave.

109 The Gorgay Boys Are In Town

What medication are you on ??
112

lewis1001,

05/11/2009 17:29:29
roland are you on smack!?! 3-0 i doubt it..... i could maybe see driver scoring but glenn getting 2 is very unlikely when is he ever in the starting eleven. hearts are struggling to score at the moment anyway hence the 2 wins you have.
113

Al Pacino,

05/11/2009 17:31:36
Well done MadHibby70, some proper facts at last.
I love stats, have you got any more? I've got one, fastest Scottish Cup Goal, 6.5 seconds. John Hewitt for Aberdeen against Motherwell if memory serves. Actually It probably doesn't seeing as i'm whacked out my skull on crystal meth.
114

Rolland,

05/11/2009 17:33:46
#112 - But after we go 1 up, you'll go all out attack and leave the back door wide open, and Glen will start along side the big man.
115

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

05/11/2009 17:34:04
102 Wonder why you don't use your normal mixu 6-2 name tag you buffoon. That's a very funny statement that, far superior than Shabba, yes as the league is decided after 9 games ya clown. You forget Csaba is only in his second season in Scotland and already has a higher placing with Hearts than your numbnut coach ever managed with his previous team. You have started the season well granted, but seriously, you girls never learn from past experiences. I reckon you could also be posing as that other clown from Dublin as the insane comments are so similar it's uncanny.
116

lewis1001,

05/11/2009 17:40:18
we'll go out on an all out attack as we have done from the start of the season and take the game no doubt. i take it the big man you're talkin about is nade? i honestly can't see him causing us many problems he's made to hold the ball up front and he can't even do that. yous will probably use your boring 4-5-1 anyway.
117

Hobo Harry,

05/11/2009 17:40:24
111 Skullduggery, On the subject of recognising heroes, I hope that the medical staff who carried Nade off last week get honoured by the Queen. At the very least it saved the cost of bringing in a Chinook helicopter......
118

DublinHibs DublinHibs,

05/11/2009 17:41:17
115/

what a complete and utter door handle you are. You keep up with your fantasy, lets see how you handle saturday night/sunday morning.

You are 8th in the league have a threadbare squad at best. The worst strikeforce in scotland, and we are not meant to have an air of confidence or optimism.

Poor deluded believer. If i didnt hate hearts so much i might pity you!
119

Rolland,

05/11/2009 17:49:32
Dublin - I'm lovin your work:

"lets see how you handle saturday night/sunday morning."

Like wise, really can't wait to see how you respond to the defeat coming your way.

No the wee team should never be confident or optimisitic about a trip to tynie. your derby record should tell you that FFS.

"have a threadbare squad at best" oh how this will come back to haunt you, I pity you I really do, you support the wee team, you've never seen the Scottish Cup and have the worst derby record in the world.

And LEwis - Looking forward to seeing this all out attack you speak of, reading these threads I'm surprised your not top of the league the way you lot bang on.
120

lewis1001,

05/11/2009 17:59:09
so am i roland. its better than the pi$h you go to see at tynecastle week in and week out. its nice to think that if we beat yous on saturday and killy, st johnstone and hamilton win yous go second bottom and become official relegation battlers. ha!
121

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

05/11/2009 18:00:07
118 Dublin mixu, That last sentance made me chuckle, ask yourself why do you hate Hearts lol many, many defeats, (the biggest and best in the Semi April 06) and many, many let downs by your insignificent mob, i could never hate hibs as the comedy value is tremendous. I'm looking forward to Saturday afternoon and evening, the fibs fans will be no where to be found, and these pages the same come the start of next week. You will be missed though as you clearly are a bit of a sack.
122

enough!,

05/11/2009 18:07:19
Rolland

time for you to do some critical reflection! the utter keek you write without a thought for Hearts and their fans previous prevarications is incredible to say the least! I quote: "I'm lovin it lovin it lovin it. It makes your fall all the more harder and more enjoyable for the Jambos"

Of course as hibs fans we have never laughed hard at anything Hearts related becuase nothing ever happens to you lot eh?? or does it!

I laughed hard when Vlad took you over
I laughed hard when he sacked managers - how many?
I laughed hard when the truck loads of players from eastern Europe started to appear!
I laughed hard when your arrogance couldn't stop a penalty from deeks!
I laughed hard at the utter nonsense that continually dribbles form vlads mouth!
I laughed at the pathetic excuses for non payment of players and staf wages and...tax debts!
I laughed hard hearing your debt has spiraled out of control....£40mil??
I still laugh at the arrogance and the contradiction of non reflection of self but looking back at hibs dismal record in the SC!
Still I laugh hardest knowing that right now it's better to be a hibee than a jumbo!!!
123

lewis1001,

05/11/2009 18:10:26
#122 what a comment!!!! did you think of that lol?
124

enough!,

05/11/2009 18:14:48
I did and I'm now absolutely knackered!
125

lewis1001,

05/11/2009 18:18:23
who cares lol. good effort! rolland is probably th most disillusioned jambo out the bunch. haha.
126

FFF,

05/11/2009 18:45:32
#115

"but seriously, you girls never learn from past experiences"


Sorry, but I think sitting in 2nd, with a healthy looking squad (to be improved in Jan) and a healthy bank balance owing to prudent fiscal management beg to differ.

Question is....Will YOU?
127

Skullduggery,

05/11/2009 19:10:04
121 The Gorgie Boys Are In Town

You got serious attitude !
i have read your posts on sickback
you fancy yourself as some kind of messiah
you are a total fenny
why dont you admit the team you spend your pocket money on are shiiiiiiiiite Hibs are 11 in front going on 14


girfuy ya pony
128

The new waspy,

05/11/2009 19:32:49
#122
I laugh because you because you post more about Hearts than the hobbits.

Not a closet Jambo by any chance as your mates support the hobbits?
129

Edward Rooney,

of Panglossian Tendencies 05/11/2009 19:41:41
Quoth Rolland:

"keep those predictions and the misplaced confidence coming"

Coming from he who has had hibs to get "pumped" and hearts to have won their last 3 league games..........

Hearts to be only 2 points behind as we speak..........

For you to speak of "predictions" and "misplaced confidence" is on a par with Pol Pot having a go at the Saudis for their human rights record.

DOCTOR!!

130

attaboy75,

05/11/2009 19:44:27
#57 Just remember this muppet,the 0-7 game you refer to happened in your own BACKYARD.Thats right,your own BACKYARD.Go on all you want about the semi final.Benji's debut,players suspended.The difference being your team got a good humping at swinecastle when you had your full team playing,the DIDDY team or to make you feel a bit better,as you like to think,the BIG diddy team
131

enough!,

05/11/2009 19:56:17
122

Is that right?

I am a life long hibee and proud of it!

132

The new waspy,

05/11/2009 19:59:56
#130

Still living in the distant past.

Time you moved out of your time machine.

As to the game the jury is out for the moment but as in derbies nothing surprises me anymore.

To old in the tooth for that.

Hoping for a Hearts win but wont put the morgage on it.

!-0 to either team but looks like a boring draw.
133

attaboy75,

05/11/2009 20:32:06
I take it you think it will be a boring draw cos that would suit you down to the ground.BORING being the operative word to describe your team.At least we will be trying to play the game as it should be played with strikers who will be trying to score.We all know what your diddys team tactics will be,try and score in the first five minutes and if that doesn't work then just resort to stifling the game and kick as many guys in green as you can and try and hit on the counter.It must be great going along to watch that every other saturday.Methinks not and thank god i support Hibs.It will take us to have an off day for you to get any kind of a result and so be it if that happens but don't think your team will have turned the corner.Far from it!
134

The new waspy,

05/11/2009 20:40:55
#133

My goodness.

Dont you type a lot of words to say nothing origional.

135

BROONISDOOMED,

05/11/2009 20:53:44
why are rangers never used in a spot the ball competition?
too easy to win it,just put your cross on the penalty spot
136

what a chancer,

up in smoke 05/11/2009 21:01:14
i fear a good drubbing may be on the cards,csaba will close shop,take a point or a close defeat and come out with new excuses,has liverpool or celtic contacted him yet.vlad will stick by him as he has not openly slated vlads squad tactics yet but he could do an outburst at a match interview at five oclock.tick tock on csaba .
137

Lévi Strauss,

05/11/2009 22:29:24
Glasgow Rangers look set to recieve a massive fine or ban from the competition.
Which is thoroughly deserved.

Everytime they play away they act like Animals.
We are talking men in there twenties thirties and forties.

+ + + + + + + + + +
138

MacHibee,

06/11/2009 00:57:34
I notice there's a more than a few Jambo's claiming they'll beat us by 3+ goals.





But, ask yourself, when was the last time Hearts scored 3+ goals?!? Not this season...

Humour me...
139

The Leith Lothario,

Here... 06/11/2009 12:16:31
Now i'm pretty sure most new managers win their 1st derby!! The only time i have ever been confident in derby games was when Big Eck was in charge and we use to pump them home and away! That big ginger nut had the yams sewn up ;-0
Hope Big Yogi is the same...

Mon the Cabbage

 

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