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Published Date: 14 October 2008
GEORGE Burley yesterday reacted publicly to Kris Boyd's decision to turn his back on Scotland with what could only be interpreted as a contemptuous dismissal of the Rangers striker's worthiness to wear the dark blue jersey. The national team manager also accused the player of a lack of respect for Scotland and his manager.
Burley, more animated and heated than he has been since succeeding Alex McLeish ten months ago, not only delivered a damning verdict on Boyd's attitude, industriousness and general capabilities, but concluded that the player's resignation from international game was not worth the furore it has caused.

Burley has been accused in many quarters of making a serious mistake by refusing to play Boyd at any stage of the scoreless draw against Norway last Saturday which has damaged the Scots' prospects of reaching the World Cup finals in 2010.

Unsurprisingly, he countered that, while working with the players in his squad in the days of preparation for the match, he is in a much better position than anyone to judge their readiness and suitability to participation.

"There is no part of me that can understand his decision to quit international football," said Burley. "When you're picked for a squad, it's an honour. As a player, I went to World Cups and didn't play a game. So you're disappointed, but it's your country we're talking about.

"When you're born and bred in the country and you turn your back on it, it's impossible to understand. I see the players in training, I'm the one who works with them and assesses how they're shaping up. If certain players are looking sharper, brighter and more willing than others, they will be the ones who will make an impression.

"Kris Boyd wasn't showing me enough to convince me that he should be on the field. I know he will have his supporters and that I won't be everyone's favourite, but I'm the one whose job it is to make judgments and stand by them. I've earned this job and I will make the decisions."

Burley was obviously alluding to those whose support of Boyd is based on his scoring statistics when he added: "Reputations in the past don't count. It's not what you did three months or six months ago that count, but what you're doing now. If past reputations counted, Kenny Dalglish would still be playing for Scotland.

"I've been to see Rangers in big matches, such as Celtic and Hibs this season, the Uefa Cup final in May, and I haven't seen Kris Boyd. Walter Smith at Rangers is, in my opinion, one of the best managers in Britain and over the past year or so, Boyd hasn't been a regular. That tells you there's maybe something that's not right. There are things he has to work on, he has to get his act together and establish himself with Rangers."

Burley also gave an unambiguous insight into Boyd's willingness when he was asked if he considered the player's resignation to be a loss. "Of course, it's a loss," he said, "in the sense that you want him to push on with his club and with his country. You want him coming along and saying, 'I'm going to be the main man, I'm going to do enough to show I should be the first pick'.

"I think Scottish fans want people to show the character you need to play for Scotland, no matter what. I think he's shown a lack of respect for this country and for myself. As I've said, it's not about me or Kris Boyd or any individual, it's about the country as a whole and trying to make sure you don't let people down. I've also heard people say that Kris Boyd had nothing to prove. Hey, we all have something to prove."

There seems little doubt that Burley, at least, will not be receptive to a change of heart by the striker. Asked if the door was closed on Boyd, the Scotland manager's answer was a terse, "He's the one who's said he doesn't want to play."

Burley's employers at the Scottish FA have yet to make known their intentions on the matter in public, but that is almost certainly because it will have to be discussed by the full board. That is likely to take place some time this week, and it may be assumed it will not be allowed to pass without investigation and consequent reaction.

Reports that Boyd, who joins club-mate Lee McCulloch as a reluctant internationalist, may be followed by others who are unhappy working with Burley, seemed to leave the manager unimpressed.

"I've had no indication of that from anyone," he said. "In fact, Barry Ferguson came to see me before the Norway match and told me he couldn't wait to get back from his injury and playing for the national team again. He is hopeful of being ready for the friendly against Argentina next month."

The full article contains 841 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 13 October 2008 10:37 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scotland's football team
 
1

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 00:09:53
Stick it where it hurts,George...Nice one....!
2

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 00:13:15
Quite the sideshow from Burley. He clearly doesn't rate Boyd. So be it. But the main event is how poorly the campaign is going for Burley using the players he does rate.
3

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 00:19:51
Teary..There may be an element of truth in what you say regarding the fact that the result and our position re SA 2010 has been sidelined, but there is no mistaking the petted lip attitude of Boyd has,in the main,been the major cause of that.
4

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 00:24:57
"Teary..There may be an element of truth in what you say regarding the fact that the result and our position re SA 2010 has been sidelined, but there is no mistaking the petted lip attitude of Boyd has,in the main,been the major cause of that." (#3)

The major cause of what? Scotland struggling? I don't think a player who hasn't been selected can be that. Burley has put himself in a precarious position with poor results and some foolish statements (such as his comments about the points target and about Broadfoot). No amount of him railing against a player he doesn't fancy anyway should distract from that.
5

aficionado de ?,

barcelona 14/10/2008 00:29:18
paul le guen said of boyd he and ferguson, are in his words not mine "undesirables" i happen to agree boyd seems that type but to be fair i would have stuck him on first, as burley said u don,t need to like each other but also ,as the rangers fans say in walter we trust so if walter watches him score a wonder goal against partick then leaves him out for the next two games ,yes the boy seems to be his own problem, i hope scotland qualify and boyd is sitting at home contemplating what could have been,caldwell and broadfoot are examples to boyd work hard on the finer points of the game and reap the rewards ,boyd should take note of these two guys but he won,t and for me i agree whole heartidly with plg,s assesement of him
6

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 00:30:36
Teary..The major story of our position in the group/poor performance etc was sidelined by the very public announcement by Boyd's fit of pique...If you dont agree,I refer you to EVERY front and back page of our national press...Just the facts,mate.Just the facts.
7

aficionado de ?,

barcelona 14/10/2008 00:31:28
anybody? has pundit done a boydy ? two "undesirables together
8

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 00:33:50
"The major story of our position in the group/poor performance etc was sidelined by the very public announcement by Boyd's fit of pique" (#6)

I'm not responsible for what the papers get up to - or for Burley keeping the affair going today....
9

neil7908,

14/10/2008 00:36:59
Well said burley, couldnt agree with you more.

Despite the fact that I think he has clearly yet to prove himself as scotland boss, he needs more time and any notion of him being sacked now should be dismissed straight away. Even if we were to let him go, who would take over? After the previous two managers turned there backs on the job for pretty medicore positions elsewhere, it is clear that the position of manager of scotland is not a highly sought after one.

No chance of getting Ferguson, Moyes or Strachan and lacking the resources for a top foreign manager, who else is around? we need to get behind burley and give him the benefit of the doubt
10

aficionado de ?,

barcelona 14/10/2008 00:37:06
8 tears any , so burley should have no rite to reply to the "undesirable" copyrite plg 2008
11

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 00:38:04
Boyd's decision to spit the dummy is regrettable and not what we want from Scotland players. If that's his attitude then good riddance

Burley's decision to go public on his thoughts about Boyd's decision suggests he is feeling the pressure - maybe there is some truth in the rumours of unrest within the squad?

Aficionado de? - were you away from school the week they covered punctuation?
12

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 00:41:17
Teary,Not for a moment suggesting that, but todays Footballers (and managers) are more than media savvy..Sometimes,though with miscalculation and ill judgement it comes back to bite you on the @rse...Oh,and one other thing..Mr Boyd started this farrago.To suggest that Burley should sit on his hands with his lips trembling is a wee bit too much!
BTW,for what its worth,I thought Boyd was worth a punt on Saturday but then again I didnt have the opportunity to see him in training before the game as George did.
13

aficionado de ?,

barcelona 14/10/2008 00:41:27
11 ye the same day u missed the lesson on full stops ,and capitals after full stops ,people in glass houses and all that U DIDDY........LOL
14

jerrymanders,

Roll up, roll up 14/10/2008 00:42:34
#2

No sideshow here. Not when your soon to return Captain backs his team mate over his Country's Manager in public. This aint no card trick and you cant dodgem. This is the roller coaster.
15

Stoobing,

London 14/10/2008 00:45:12
Fantastic press conference from Burley, articulate, passionate and illustrating how proud he is - as a true Scotsman - to manage his country. I would hope that alone inspires the true Scots in the squad. Lee McCulloch is an utter irrelevance as a player and if Boyd's been influenced by that non-entity, it underlines Boyd's lack of braincells. Broadfoot, the cartoon SPL bad guy had blossomed under Burley's tutelage as Scotland manager, and that includes Burley's clumsy praise after the Iceland game.

Boyd is a bit part player who, lest ye forget, fresh aired when we were 1 - 1 in a crucial home game v Georgia, and was then substituted. It's all very well scoring scorchers against Partick or, more's the pity, hitting two every time he plays Dundee United, but flat track bullies are only of use now and again. Riordan will, fingers crossed, be in peak form when the next squad's chosen, and with Kenny Miller back with big Iwelumo, Steven Fletcher and (probably) Ross McCormack in the frame, Boyd won't be missed. At all.

You NEVER turn your back on your country.
16

I.J,

The Diggers 14/10/2008 00:46:32
Boyd NEVER be allowed near the shirt again.

He must enjoy splinters up his farter mind, so christ knows why he's complaining.
17

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 00:47:22
"Not for a moment suggesting that, but todays Footballers (and managers) are more than media savvy..Sometimes,though with miscalculation and ill judgement it comes back to bite you on the @rse...Oh,and one other thing..Mr Boyd started this farrago.To suggest that Burley should sit on his hands with his lips trembling is a wee bit too much!" (#12)

And who suggested that? Whatever Boyd may have done Burley's rant is questionable and may indeed, as someone has suggested, be a sign that he is feeling the pressure - and not coping with it too well. One could almost supect that Burley is happy for the spotlight to be on Boyd rather than the main issue - though, frankly, I doubt if the Scotland boss has the nous for a deliberate diversion.
18

aficionado de ?,

BARCELONA 14/10/2008 00:48:21
burley is a good JUDGE, boyd is never aff the bench.
19

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Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 00:49:46
"No sideshow here. Not when your soon to return Captain backs his team mate over his Country's Manager in public" (#14)

Barry Ferguson has backed Burley (see the SkySports website) and is raring to get back playing for Scotland under Burley - see above.
21

Jon Bon Jovi,

14/10/2008 00:51:09
maybe if we had started with boyd (for home games) and have an attacking line up for the likes of norway ie a winger and big iwelmo we would have a better chance of winning games before half time...

thats the formation that boyd would excel in and im sure he would score goals, if he doesnt get into it hook him off...

he's the best natural finisher we have had in donkeys years.....
22

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 00:53:28
Teary..as you are cut n pasting my posts,I shall do likewise (Imitation,Flattery blah blah)

"I'm not responsible for what the papers get up to - or for Burley keeping the affair going today...."

Surely the point here is that Boyd threw a hissy fit at not being selected for the game!Crystal Clear!
To suggest that Burley has some Machiavellian plot to undermine the player is frankly absurd.The player said he didnt want to play under Burley...George said OK fine..Ta Ta! End of story...
23

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 00:54:58
13 - Aficionado de? It would appear that you are having trouble with reading as well as punctuation.

Gnob
24

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 00:55:06
"To suggest that Burley has some Machiavellian plot to undermine the player is frankly absurd" (#22)

Who did that?

"George said OK fine..Ta Ta!" (#22)

But George didn't just say that....
25

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14/10/2008 00:58:41
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:00:14
Teary..You seem to say that Burley has gone overboard in his response (please note,response) to Boyd's announcement and that he is using this wee war of words (Sorry Kris..for you ze war iss ofer)to deflect attention from our group standing re SA 2010.That is where I feel there is a case to answer..
27

Bring it Off,

UK 14/10/2008 01:01:56
What is the best result for Scotland tomorrow Norway v Holland, is it a 0-0?
28

jerrymanders,

Pie Sky Sports 14/10/2008 01:02:49
#20

You are Jim White. Aren't you?
29

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:02:57
Uh Oh...Jimmy Krankie on Ketamine has arrived...
30

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14/10/2008 01:03:58
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14/10/2008 01:05:48
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aficionado de ?,

barcelona 14/10/2008 01:07:00
25 bertie bassett, do u come from an era when people listened to what rangers or there fans think jist cos wee had to? thoes days are gone mo chara

23 eh? u,ve been slapped doon ,retire like boydy theres a good chap
33

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14/10/2008 01:12:40
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Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:12:46
32 - slapped doon? By somebody with less grammar skills than a 12 year old lassie texting her mates?

Right up yourself, aren't you?
35

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:14:14
A wee lesson in humility for Boyd...

Martin O'Neill,whilst at Nottingham Forest was languishing in the second team.He was rightly annoyed and went to see Mr Clough.Chapped on the door and on entering said "Why am I in the second team?In a heartbeat Cloughie said "Cos you are too good for the third team..."
Moral of the story? get your head down and work,you will get your shot.Fhanny about like a ballet dancer and you get short shrift...nuff said!
36

Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, we don't care 14/10/2008 01:14:26
I see fayneant is back spreading his sanctimonious drivel again, correcting everyones spelling and grammar. What a riot he must be on a night oot.
37

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:17:45
36..If I had to drink Steinlager,I'd riot!
38

aficionado de ?,

barcelona 14/10/2008 01:19:09
36 is this not a new thing? what a diddy this guy is, what does it matter, he corrects me and then is far from perfect hiself ,what a diddy, wonder what team he supports?
39

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14/10/2008 01:19:16
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14/10/2008 01:21:19
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aficionado de ?,

barcelona 14/10/2008 01:22:45
ur getting it tite the nite fannyeant lol nice to dribble u ,nite nite
42

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:24:39
37 - Steinlager is the gut rot they send overseas, a bit like Scots sending Chivas Regal to the Yanks.

There's a new Steinlager Pure out here now ("pure", as in, they removed the formaldehyde). It's actually pretty good.

Still you can't beat a pint of Guinness from a Dublin pub.
43

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:26:28
Erk - I'm being picked on by Aficionado and Nearly.

Reminds me of what the late Denis Healey said about being criticised by Sir Geoffrey Howe....
44

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14/10/2008 01:26:29
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:27:48
Fay..Indeed and I plan to test that theory tomorrow !
46

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:28:14
Savaged by a dead sheep...
47

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:28:40
44 - Nearly (time for a new name) Feeks - Bluenose went home to the UK some months back. Wasn't happy in Auckland
48

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:29:23
46 - ;-)
49

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14/10/2008 01:31:11
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:33:29
49..Or his sons,the Gallagher bros...
51

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:33:55
49 - is he still hanging in there?

Bring him back!
52

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14/10/2008 01:34:17
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Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:35:52
52 - Who says he's not still on here posting under another name?

I've heard that some people do that.
54

Canada,

William Wallace 14/10/2008 01:36:01
It's ma ba and if I don't like the way it's going I'll take ma ba and go hame tae ma Mammy.
55

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:36:05
And Parker from "Thunderbirds"....
56

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 01:37:24
55 - Sam the Amreican Eagle from the Muppets....
57

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:39:59
That wee guy who was the Arab horse trader in Ben Hur...Hugh Griffith...
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14/10/2008 01:50:37
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14/10/2008 01:51:58
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:52:36
TWO WORDS......FATIMA WHITBREAD.
61

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14/10/2008 02:11:32
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neinbob,

Australia 14/10/2008 02:14:45
Burley pointed out Boyd is not even playing regularly for his club, so why should he expect to play for his country?

Well why bother picking him for the squad if he’s never going to get a game?

George can’t have it both ways

63

jerrymanders,

14/10/2008 02:17:32
#62

Boydy is a piker.
64

Real Men Against Bhoys,

Melbourne 14/10/2008 02:23:19
George Burley - Without a clue, without tactics, without doubt the worst Scotland Manger since wee Bertie Vogts. All this bravado about Kris Boyd is merely deflecting from the real issue...Scotland under Burley are poor at best, and rubbish most of the time! Burley reckons he has earned his position as National team manager - since when did getting the sack from Hearts qualify you to be Scotland Manager? He seems to have conveniently forgotten that Boyd has NOT turned his back on Scotland, Boyd has turned his back on BURLEY...
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jerrymanders,

14/10/2008 02:29:27
#64

There were, and still are, loads of threads about Burley and his short comings. The fact is Boydchenko has turned his back on his manager, his team mates (except Bazza), and his Nation. He is a deserter. Burley will be judged on his ultimate performance for Scotland. Boydy will not be judged, he walked away from his team mates and his Nation. There is no judgement.
66

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 02:38:42
61 - Oblidee Oblidah - why do you have to keep changing your name? Just out of curiousity.
67

Harlem Tam,

14/10/2008 03:17:55
Teary Ennui - Boyd did not simply state that he didn't want to be selected for Scotland again, he said he didn't want to be selected while Burley was in charge. That is an attack on the manager, yet you appear to begrudge the attacked manager the right to hit back and defend himself? That simply beggars belief.

Also, Kris Boyd is the man who, during PLG's tenure at Ibrox, missed training because he was drunk - on more than one occasion - and got the now discredited club doctor to write him sick notes to cover his rather large posterior.

Is THAT the sort of man the Gers fans want to defend?

Probably.
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Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 03:24:31
67 - Tam. Do you think Burley's predecessors would have reacted the same way?
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celticdaft,

14/10/2008 03:24:52
#25

THERE YOU GO WITH THE BIG LETTERS AGAIN. We can hear you but you are still talking mince
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gr8scot,

toronto 14/10/2008 03:29:49
What a body swerve from Burley, Boyd doesn't want to play for Scotland, so what, that's worthy of a blood stirring press comference. Burley should have done a little more talking to his players before the Norway match in that patrotic tone of voice. The bottom line is Burley is not delivering the goods, don't rant and rave about a player that didn't kick a ball and went in the huff. The eleven guys you did pick were nothing more than average, we were lucky not to lose, Holland must be licking their chops.
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Just an opinion,

USA 14/10/2008 03:37:11
I can understand Boyd supporters wanting to see him in the team -"It's Goals that Count."
But if he can't get a regulars start for Rangers......
But #35 with his Cloughie pearl of wisdom puts it perfectly, Kris obviously has a higher opinion of himself than Walter Smith and George Burley.
Anyway, we seem to forget Scotland is now reduced to playing players who cannot even command regular places with their club sides.- such as Boyd, and Mc Fadden when he was with Everton, so Burley can hardly be blamed for failing to make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.
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Regulator,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 03:54:43
....delivered a damning verdict on Boyd's attitude, industriousness and general capabilities,.......

It's not a matter of Burley defending himselve, the general consensus is the Boyds reaction was petulant and Burley, as a successful international manager should have risen above this. He didn't and stooped to the same level as Boyd and that is why Burley doesn't get the same performance out of all of these average players that either Smith or McLeish got. Burley picked Boyd for the squad then when the toys are thrown out of the pram idenmtifies all the reasons he shouldn't have been picked.
We need a new man at the helm, whether he lets Boyd back in or not is another matter for another day and the new manager to decide.
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Ursus arctos horribilis,

14/10/2008 04:26:05
Personally I am not a Boyd fan-he is being portrayed as being some kind of star rather than a player of very limited ability and even more economical application. However such is the paucity of talent available to Scotland it cannot be good for morale to have players from our top club declaring that they no longer wish to have anything to do with the national team.

However it appears that Burley is quickly losing the dressing room and if he really wants to start pointing fingers for "showing lack of respect" then he should look in the mirror re his quite disgraceful comments about Kirk Broadfoot.

SOS-Send on Souness and get shot of Burley who is plainly out of his depth.
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Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 04:32:57
74 - Souness as saviour?!?!

We really are fkd!
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Ursus arctos horribilis,

14/10/2008 04:41:40
#75 At this rate we will soon be looking back fondly on the Bertie Vogts era.

Souness has an impressive media presence with vast international experience as both player and coach and is ten times the manager that Burley-a little boy out of his depth-will ever be.

Could you imagine any player taking liberties with Souness?
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Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 04:51:29
76 - No player would take liberties with Souness, but can you imagine what his tactics would be like? He's been found out in every managerial job he has had since Rangers - and guess who was picking the team back then?
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Richardinho,

14/10/2008 04:55:11
in the past rangers believed that they somehow had ownership of the national team. I'm sure some still think this. George Burley has dispelled this little delusion. Boyd has no right to a start any more than Davie Weir has an automatic right to be captain.
Well done Burley for putting the rangers rebels in their place.
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Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 05:00:26
78 - Bonkers
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Richardinho,

14/10/2008 05:02:34
#79 I know you are.
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Ursus arctos horribilis,

14/10/2008 05:05:37
#77 and Burley who talks a bit like your mate-poster #5 aficionado de? -has achieved what exactly in his managerial career?

The SFA took the cheap option in Burley unlike eg Eire who paid top dollar for a top-class coach in Trapattoni. The result -we can forget about qualifying for the WC.
82

Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 05:15:06
80 nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah!

I bet you're sticking your tongue out!
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Fayneant,

NZ 14/10/2008 05:16:42
81 - Agreed, but Souness is not the answer.

Trappatoni is a great coach, but who amongst us was pushing for a foreign coach to replace Big Eck? Not me! Still gunshy after the Berti years.
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DunCraig,

Brisbane 14/10/2008 05:20:13
Just one thing George, respect is something that has to be earned, not demanded. Ok, Boyd didn't show you any respect, maybe because, in his mind, you hadn't earned it but, by the same token, how much respect did you show him?
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Bring it Off,

UK 14/10/2008 05:39:29
Wee Bertie Tell me pal how are things in Jurrasic Park

It is disconcerting to know that there are still Neanderthals like you in Scotland I am sure you come from an enclave in the West of Scotland somewhere that has not progressed socially or economically for the past fifty years and the really hilarious thing is you probably wonder why!

I noted from previous posts that you mention Britain a lot and the Queen, I too was a big fan of Freddie Mercury and really liked Radio Ga Ga however I didn’t know there was a written version of that until you showed up gadgie.

As for the love of Britain what went wrong in yer heid there pal last time I looked Manchester was parked right in the heart of the North West of Britain in a county called Cheshire I think so why did you and your gadgie mates wreck it.

Well done Georgie Burley.

You want to play for the shirt there it is pal wear it with great pride

You want to be a poser and a ponce then leave a message after the tone.

Boyd more like Ladyboyd

C’mon Scotland
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WEE IBROX can u hear the celic sing NO NO,

14/10/2008 05:57:09
85 Bring it off

if you had mentioned the tratior MacGeedy you may
have a case against boyd instead you turn it into
a rabid blog against Rangers. As far as i am concerned
they can both rot in hell

Scotland Forever
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Jaggy,

14/10/2008 06:27:21
#85 Manchester was always in Lancashire.

I blame the schools
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pelestan,

Alberta,Canada. 14/10/2008 06:34:12
I said it before ,and now i will repeat myself,if Boyd is only playing a total of 28 MINUTES,,IN 7 matches....It is obvious that Burley should never have had him on the Scotland Team in the first place knowing what he says he knows...Then what would all you fans have said then?????And i am sure your response would be more positive toward Boyd,,,and really negative toward Burley,who has after all given you not much to shout about mores the pity...
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Richardinho,

14/10/2008 06:38:33
The pressure to play him after the last match would have been irresistible had Boyd not made this daft decision. Whatever you think of the manager, you have to allow him to make his decisions. I will always get behind the team who ever is playing.
Boyd is a disgrace.
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Colin P,

14/10/2008 06:41:48
#18 aficionado de ?,
BARCELONA 14/10/2008 00:48:21
burley is a good JUDGE, boyd is never aff the bench.

But Boyd was ON the bench. If he wasn't rated, why choose him? Surely there were other young players available?
91

Colin P,

14/10/2008 06:47:48
#65 jerry

How is Boyd a deserter if he never played?
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Colin P,

14/10/2008 06:59:28
Gotta laugh at the Celts on here saying Boyd is a disgrace. The funny part is, you never rated him to begin with.

I find it curious Burley says "When you're born and bred in the country and you turn your back on it, it's impossible to understand."

Who exactly is he talking about here?


Wasn't Boyd's first game for Scotland in the Kirin Cup? He's not been in the picture for long, and sitting on the bench for 6 games is ridiculous.
He scored how many goals for Rangers last year yet couldn't command a starting place there. Granted many of those were coming on late and grabbing the winner...
So why wasn't this done in the last 6 games?

Burley is as much to blame as Boyd.
The question is, who's attitude will affect the team more?
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Pistol Pete,

14/10/2008 07:40:50
This story is wearing a bit thin.

In summary: Boyd is out, we have better options that him who are more commited to the Scottish cause.

Shut the door behind you Boyd and concentrate on getting a game for your club, although you will have to work twice as hard to convince now as Walter also has you sussed. Go to Cardiff, Burnley or something.
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Keyboard supporter,

14/10/2008 07:44:36
#94 - Very true - Boyds' a t i t and Burley should have just held out an olive branch and took the moral high ground (if he could find any as the dhims constantly scramble for that one!!) rather than appearing stern & vindictive

If any good comes out of this it would be for Boyd to realise (or someone tell him FFS!!) what an error he's made, apologise profusely and train his nick nacks off. A fit Boyd alongside Miller at both club & country is the best combination we have available - don't wish to put the boot in even more but if Darcheville gets a game ahead of him after the formers cataclysmic performance at Love St then the penny must drop.

Sort yourself out son!!!!!
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Keyboard supporter,

14/10/2008 07:46:45
#95 - "we have better options that him "

thats the point - we don't.

Fletcher & Iwelumo i don't think so. The former in the future possibly but the latter is a coo.
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Pistol Pete,

14/10/2008 07:49:14
Look at what Boyd has given the game and what Burley has given the game re commitment. Chalk and cheese.
97

Brendan the Scozzie,

14/10/2008 07:49:19
If he doesn't want to play for Scotland - we don't want him playing for Scotland either.

What a loser.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 14/10/2008 07:49:19
#27 Depends on whether you think we're capable of beating the Dutch, really. If you think we can take at least four points out of six from them and therefore still challenge for 1st place in the group, then the draw is the best result for us. If not, then we're probably best off with them winning, taking Norway almost out of the running in the group and leaving us to fight Macedonia and Iceland (who both have to come to Hampden) for the runner-up spot.

As for the other game, a draw suits us best, followed by an Iceland win.
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lachlan,

14/10/2008 07:50:20
boyd-the less he plays the better he gets
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Richardinho,

14/10/2008 07:51:26
#97 You are allowing yourself to be caught up in the media hysteria. Don't pay attention to what 'other sources' say. Listen to the facts. Don't get fooled by the idea that what Gordon Smith might have said in response to a journalist's leading question has any relevance whatsoever.
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Exiled Scot 999,

Europe 14/10/2008 07:54:44
Mr Burley has made himself look a complete idiot with his ''Muppet Show'' how unprofessional of a man in charge of the National team to come out with comments of that nature.
All he has done is to show the media and the fans that he does not measure up for the pressure of the job.
Shot himself in the foot to say the least.
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Finbar in the Sun,

Johannesburg,SA 14/10/2008 07:58:03
Boyd is doing himself no favours here.

He should take a look at Broadfoot ad understand 'that's what it takes to fulfill your potential'.

We only want players with the hearts and ability to represent our country.

Boys should be embarrassed and stick to working on his own game, if he's not allergic(or too good) for hard graft.
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StockportJambo,

14/10/2008 08:05:30
Whatever the merits (or otherwise) of Boyd as a footballer, his presence is clearly disruptive as he has a major attitude problem. Traitor Smith obviously sees the same... since he can't play for his club either.

Good riddance to bad rubbish as far as I'm concerned. Glad Burley sees the same.

Ignore the OF whiners Burley. They just can't understand how someone who hasn't played for, or managed, one of their heinous establishments can possibly be good enough to be Scotland manager. They are the ones with the problem - not you.
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Martlore,

14/10/2008 08:14:33
Great job by Burley in deflecting attention from the real issues of this campaign: playing players our of position, lack of attacking cohesion, lack of defensive stability etc. To go from a position of challenging Holland for first place (a valid expectation at the start of the campaign) to scrapping for a possible play-off with a divided squad of players is a very poor reflection on this manager.
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

14/10/2008 08:21:36
#113 That wasn't my expectation - challenging Holland for first. I always saw Norway as our main competition, with second place our best hope. Norway have better players than us. Their players go abroad at a young age and stay there to build solid careers with good clubs - unlike our Maloneys and Fergusons who have no bottle and crumble at the first sign of pressure. As for Boyd and, for that matter, McCulloch... Burley himself went to England as a youngster and made it to the top of the game in another country. I'm sure he has no sympathy for these guys.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 14/10/2008 08:23:46
#111 It's a debatable point - I can certainly see the argument, but Norway showed, particularly in the second half, how dangerous they were on the break against the thinner midfield. Burley perhaps felt after the Macedonia game that the priority was to avoid going behind early in the game, and that we could successfully exert pressure on the Norwegians in the later stages if we still needed to score. And if Iwelumo had been able to convert an open goal from three yards, he'd have been proven absolutely right.

For the record I'd have preferred a 4-3-3 start too, but the way the game developed seemed to justify some caution on the manager's part.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 14/10/2008 08:27:22
#115 Politics? Maybe so, but by all accounts that was of Boyd's making, as he put in a lazy, sullen, can't-be-bothered display in training. NO professional football manager can afford to pick a player in those circumstances, as it would massively undermine team spirit. If the reports of Boyd's training are true - and we haven't heard a single contradiction from anyone, and Boyd himself has all but admitted it - then Burley had absolutely no choice but to leave him out.
108

Indigo Nightlight,

14/10/2008 08:39:43
For all thos criticising Burley's tactics of 1 up front in a game we had to win - This was done by Walter Smith on more than one occassion at home, and by Alex McLeish in our last home match under him. We never won any of the games where we did it, but the tactic was not exclusive to Burley. I think it was a mistake as well (one which he rectified in the second half with only a catastrophic miss stopping us from winning), but to judge the manager as a dud on the back of a poorish start to the group (we are still second in the group at this stage with the two worst teams in the group to play at home) is jumping the gun.

Being undermined by a fat waster with an over-inflated ego might be the best thing that could have happened to him.
109

Indigo Nightlight,

14/10/2008 08:40:40
#119

There were 23 players in the squad. 10 of them didn't play. should they all spit the dummy and walk out on the country?
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 14/10/2008 08:41:40
#118 Which team, Scotland's? Maloney is pretty useful with a dead ball, and Darren Fletcher has created a few goals for us from set pieces too.

All accounts of the training sessions, not just Burley's, depict Boyd not bothering his backside, and as I said he's more or less admitted as much himself, saying that he knew he wasn't going to get picked anyway so why break sweat? Perhaps Burley initially chose him for the squad not thinking that he'd behave so petulantly.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 14/10/2008 08:52:31
#124 I'd agree that set pieces broadly represent our best chance of scoring, though we carved out a few decent opportunities from open play on Saturday. I'm not sure Boyd's record is so spectacular in that regard as to distinguish him from anyone else. Fletcher in particular already has a quick-thinking and inventive approach to dead-ball situations that has produced profitable results in the past, and I think his disappointing form in recent games is the main difference between Scotland in this campaign and the previous one.

Whatever it is that's caused his drop in international form (he's still doing well for Man U), Burley probably needs to change it to accommodate him, because Fletcher is by a distance our most naturally talented and creative player and we need to build the team around his strengths. It doesn't hurt that he'd run through brick walls to represent Scotland for even a minute, either.
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Impartial,

Perth 14/10/2008 08:59:20
Burley has at last come of age in the job, at last he has shown some authority and real passion, if for nothing else, thank you Kris Boyd for that. Why on earth should the whole country be in turmoil over a substitute, who appears unwilling and has been shown little confidence by his club manager. When it seemed possible that Boyd might be available in the summer, Rangers considered just one bid for him, from Cardiff City, currently seventh in the Championship. There is no shortage of people delivering the same verdict on Kris Boyd. He doesn't want to play for his country and always looked as if he didn't, let's all get totally behind the manager and those who do.
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hondo,

14/10/2008 09:00:11
burley needs to get back on the bevvy
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Phil1,

Edinburgh 14/10/2008 09:09:17
Well what did Boyd have to fight for? Burley had made it clear he was not going to play him even when Scotland were losing away or drawing at home.

The 'proof of the pudding' will be in the eating - if Burley gets Scotland through to qualify then he can say I did it my way - If he doesn't then maybe Boyd had a point that Burley picks his favourites and doesn't give everyone an equal chance.

One thing Burley has a cheek to say is that Boyd shows disrespect to Scotland. Rubbish he showed what he thought of Burley by refusing to play for him. It was Burley that showed disrespect to Scotland by not playing the best in form players.
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Bosco Bhoy,

14/10/2008 09:13:48
Instead of trying to shift the onus for this fiasco away from Boyd why dont his defenders ponder one simple question:
Can so many experienced and knowledgeable football people such as Le Guen, Smith, McLeish and Burley be wrong about the qualities of Mr Boyd?

I dont think so and its a pity some bears can see this only in terms of him being a RFC player (allbeit an unused one for most of the time)and being loyal to the guy.
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Bosco Bhoy,

14/10/2008 09:16:50
135

Why not the same exact arguement for Boyds lack of game time at Ibrox?

Is WS not showing RFC respect by "not playing the best in form players"?

Is Mr Smith guilty of picking "his favourites and doesn't give everyone an equal chance"?
119

Who?,

14/10/2008 09:20:42
The last paragraph of this article has to be the most chilling- Basketball barry telling burley that he will be the captain against argentina.

Most players who have been out that length of time usually skip friendly internationals so they can continue their return to fitness yet here we have that little ned picking himself as captain.

Burley should show some bottle and not pick ferguson in his next squad. Fergusons wailing support of boyd in the press yesterday was disgusting. If ferguson wants to be captain he needs to act like one.
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Bosco Bhoy,

14/10/2008 09:21:34
What we all know is that Boyd is a fat lazy git who has a natural ability for scoring goals.
However his lack of professionalism re his training/diet means he is quite ineffective against the type of higher quality defenders that RFC meet in Europe or Scotland may face.

So to put it bluntly he is good against cr-ap teams and shiote against decent teams and that is something MR Smith worked out with the UEFA Cup run.
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aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 09:33:04
R Gough , D Ferguson, A Goram , L McCulloch and now E Boyd. Is there a pattern here?
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aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 09:33:45
not to mention W Smith and A McLeish!!
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Who?,

14/10/2008 09:37:29
If you read any thread that BTO posts on through out it he will sporadicaly post random 1 liners that have nothing to do with its neighbouring posts.

Is this guy the full shilling?
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 09:41:15
Morning Ladies.....

Another question......will this affect his transfer value.....if indeed any other team want him?
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aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 09:42:15
Don’t Glasgow Rangers supporters, by their association with the Union Flag at least, have a huge chip on their shoulder about Scotland getting too big for their boots by swaying towards independence from Engerland and feel they need to bring Scotland down ? Don’t Glasgow Celtic supporters have more affiliation with splitting from England because of the Irish history associated with the club?
I only ask because it seems that way.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 09:44:05
143

He's from Maryhill......so he did't have a full deck to start!
127

Rob,

14/10/2008 09:49:58
I hear Joe Kinnear will be available around the end of October. I'm sure he's got a bit of Scot in him
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 09:50:27
145

The Celtic supporters from Southern Ireland are not part of England or the UK......so no....they don't give a hoot...

Celtic supporters who are Scottish may have stronger desires for independance.....there are some who don't....

Now the question is.....will Boyd start against Dundee Utd this weekend.....will Boyd get pelters if he plays at away grounds?
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 09:51:51
BTO.....I'm ok.....how is the land of the rising sun today?
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 09:54:31
Nothing beats the old Monty Python sketch that had the 100 metres sprint for people with no sense of direction.....

Rumour has it they had the SFA in mind when they wrote it!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 09:54:34
BTO...How about "Watch out Boydy's about"
An annoying twonk tries to make mischief whereever hergoes...Could work...
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aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 09:59:59
I loved " hello , I'd like to have an argument please " sketch
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aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 10:00:31
Will not turning up for an event because you couldn’t care less about it be called a Boydy?? Or will it just be called “ Doing A Rangers” ?
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Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 14/10/2008 10:11:18
Sometime when you're feeling important;
Sometime when your ego's in bloom
Sometime when you take it for granted
You're the best qualified in the room,
Sometime when you feel that your going
Would leave an unfillable hole,
Just follow these simple instructions
And see how they humble your soul;
Take a bucket and fill it with water,
Put your hand in it up to the wrist,
Pull it out and the hole that's remaining
Is a measure of how you will be missed.
You can splash all you wish when you enter,
You may stir up the water galore,
But stop and you'll find that in no time
It looks quite the same as before.
The moral of this quaint example
Is do just the best that you can,
Be proud of yourself but remember,
There's no indispensable man.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 10:14:10
interesting that boyds last 5 biggest games for rangers and scotland
v georgia came on after 66 minutes
v italy came on after 90 mins !!!
v aberdeen (title decider) came on after 62 minutes
v kaunas (H) came on after 66 mins
v kaunas (A) came on after 67 mins
last 5 old firm games 0 minutes on the park...
and you know what he never scored in any of them...
xxx
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AJ Fife,

14/10/2008 10:17:25
Does anyone know if there's any truth in the rumour that Walter Smith and David Murray forced Boyd to turn traitor?
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AJ Fife,

14/10/2008 10:25:04
#164,

BTO

Something to do with being wrapped in the union flag and bowing to the Queen I think!

Let's face it, Smith has already turned his back on his own country and Murray is a self declared unionist. A blind man can see that Boyd has been influenced by these Quislings!
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Will1875,

14/10/2008 10:25:46
Burley is garbage. Get rid of him. He has no idea.

Any manager who picks Kirk Broadhead has no idea about football.

As for Boyd, pick up yor toys the prams a bit empty at the moment. Championship for you in the Jan transfer window.
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The Equaliser,

14/10/2008 10:26:23
138

"Most players who have been out that length of time usually skip friendly internationals so they can continue their return to fitness yet here we have that little ned picking himself as captain."

I thought that Neil Lennon had retired and anyway he's from N Ireland.

Welcome back Barry your country needs you more than ever to bring some composure, experience, drive and leadership into the Scotland team that has been sorely missing since your injury.
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AJ Fife,

14/10/2008 10:26:50
And don't be surprised if the Archbigot of Glasgow, Donald Findlay, is lurking in the shadows!
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Pattie O'Dores,

14/10/2008 10:29:52
When we were all wee boys playing football in the school playground we all dreamed one day of playing for Scotland (well, at least, I did). Kris Boyd had the opportunity to realise that dream but got too big for his boots and turned his back on his country in a huff. What message does this send out to aspiring young Scottish footballers and how can anyone on this thread possibly defend that decision?
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 10:31:35
#167 i hope your right i hope ferguson comes back and is magnificant for scotland and helps get us to the finals...and i hope if we do qualify the media parasites will abscence themselves from the trip as they have done their best to undermind us getting there..xxx
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 10:33:44
#169 as burley said if boyd doesnt get played for the big games for his club there may be something wrong..as as my stats in post #162 show he was not that likely to score anyway xxx
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Who?,

14/10/2008 10:36:51
#167- are you real?
145

AJ Fife,

14/10/2008 10:36:54
BTO,

I think we both know if you want to play for your country you don't retire at 25 or 26! No, I think there are outside influences at work here. It's clear the boy is part simple, but I think the influence of his unionist bosses in Govan have been exerting pressure on the poor lad!
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Pattie O'Dores,

14/10/2008 10:40:03
#173 BTO

What an intellectual response!

An honest question which requires an honest response: Would you support Boyd's decision if he played for any other club?
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Pattie O'Dores,

14/10/2008 10:49:44
#179

Boyd has had his day. No longer a starter for his club, not even guaranteed an appearance as substitute and now walks out on his country in a huff. His credibility is zero and there are now huge question marks over his attitude and commitment.

I would say that he has definitely had his day.
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 10:50:23
#bring them on

How should Burley have handled it before it hit the press?

The simple fact is a manager has to pick the best team as he sees it. He cannot guarantee any player particularly one struggling to nail a game from his club on a regular basis and one with obvious issues both on and off the park.

A Scotland manager needs players wanting to play for scotland and wanting to prove to him they are the guy for the job. Burely has hardly been through the door with only 3 competitive games before Boyd has walked out.
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 10:53:25
#Pattie O'Dores

Think you are overstating it. Boyd could easily work his way into a starting role for Rangers. He has played most games. Whether he does it for Rangers is largely down to him.

Given a season or 2 at Ibrox playing and learning the game he could have become the automatic first choice at centre forward for scotland.

But boyd has blown it with his trantrum. An attitude that will has been reflected in his career so far. One that will mean he probably will never fulfill his potential.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 10:57:12
come on #184 dont believe everything you read in the anti burley monkey media...the media tried to use mcculloch to hit burley with and it blew up in their faces,..and the boyd things going the same way..in fact the boyd situation loooks like it could become a turning point for burley the way the handling of the credit crunch bank meltdown has been for gordon brown.
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 10:57:52
#184 bring them on

Possibly. Why seriously do you think that is? We have had Roxbourgh and Brown who were nobodies. Burley has as good a track record at club level as any of the last 4 (scottish born) managers. Doing well with Ipswich and then Hearts for a short time.

Do you think it is personality.

In football terms most of the Scotland team really picks itself. There are only one or 2 positions that anyone really argues about. Burelys style of football would be far better for a footballer to play generally than smiths or mcleishs which tended to be high ball and defend with everyone behind the ball. Productive maybe but not nice to watch or play.

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Steve Scotland,

14/10/2008 10:59:20

BERTIE BURLEY MUST GO, GET BOYD IN HE SCORES GOALS SCOTLAND UNDER BERTIE BURLEY DOESNT......
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Eighteen Seventy-Four,

14/10/2008 11:00:22
"Maybe it was just another thing coming that he couldnae see?"

He supposed to be a f***** clairvoyant as well now?

What a muppet.



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Alan B,

14/10/2008 11:02:18
#bring them on

Remember we have had Weir doing this with bertie. And OConnor doing this with Smith. (And D Ferguson before them).

There is an underlying problem of players not wanting to play for Scotland and not having any pride in their country.

In the past you would expect managers to be displinarians as players take the pee. But now we have them all running away like little girls crying.

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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 11:02:44
steve youve not been keeping up..boyd has scored 2 spl goals from open play since march..he has not scored in his last 5 big games..and has not featured in the last 5 old firm games..the trick is busted..boyd is slowly being found out
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 11:03:38
#194 bring them on

But surely you should be motivated to play for your country. It is not as if Burley has been there long.
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Gerry M,

14/10/2008 11:09:48
Had Iwomelu or whatever not missed the easiest chance in Hampden history then Burley´s decision to bring him on instead of Krissy would have been entirely vindicated and Kriss´s hissy fit would be imposible to defend, even by the blinded braying Govan Orcs and their media apologists. As it was, imo, the difference he made vindicated it anyhow as he played pretty well and put in more of a shift than Kristine ever would have done.
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Eighteen Seventy-Four,

14/10/2008 11:11:18
197. Exactly you tube. Dyou want him to start reading tea leaves to find out whos next to quit?
159

Alan B,

14/10/2008 11:11:40
#199

Who?

Smith a genuine father figure has walked away. And he could not do it with OConnor. (Similar to Boyd a good option for scotland that has not fulfilled his talent.)

Souness would probably cause everyone to walk out and has generally been a poor manager despite have many opportunities.

That leaves McGee or Levin as the only serious options. As far as i could see Burley is as good an option as them. Neither are father figure characters. Both i like but that is probably cause they had good season last year. Both could be future options.

A foreign manager while tactically good will probably lack the motivation side.

Also much should a manager serious have to motivate a player to turn out for 3 or 4 competitive internationals a yr.
160

james 1st,

hamilton nz 14/10/2008 11:14:36
burley to puthis own mark on the squadput on two strikers with no international gaols and one international cap between them.
no manager anywhere in the world would make such a stupid position, i dont think even poor old berti voigts would have been that daft. it is hardly surprising in the circumstances that boyd felt unvalued and unwanted and it is little wonder that he no longer wishes to waste his time showing up for a manager who simply will not play him in circumstnces where he was the only reasonable choice.

burley made a mistake that not even an amateur should make, it probably cost scotland two valuable points and he should go to save scotland again falling towards the low hundreds in fifa world rankings.

i will agree that boyd seems a lazy player but he does score goals.

please quote any recent international games where a manager has played two strikers with one cap and no goals between them
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 11:16:42
#205 Hardly an expiring figure. Cannot get a job with a big club now. Last did well about 18yrs ago.
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 11:26:36
#james 1st

Couple of points. Firstly about playing inexperienced players. It tends to be scottish/british managers that tend to be so into experience. Note that even when foeign managers manage scotland or england they are much more willing to play younger players if they think they are good enough.

If Burely had stuck with Alexander rather than playing Broadfoot in Iceland we may not have won. Going with the best player or best option is sometimes better than going with experience.

Scotland have been renouned over the yr for sticking with more experienced players rather than playing better younger ones. Normally only turning to them when they get a move to a bigger club and end up off form or sitting on the bench.

Burley did not start with either striker you mentioned but brought them on for the last 1/2hr. The Wolves guy was excellent in the air winning everything. (yes he missed a sitter). But if you want to change tactics and have a player challenging in the air he was the only option we have. If we never give him his first cap then he will never get that experience. While he did miss that chance he did play well apart from that. He is an option we have not had for a long while.

Fletcher or boyd a difficult decision. Neither are playing that well this yr. Fletcher is the best player on paper and the one people seriously expect to make it. If he can get some form this year he really is the player that we would expect to start possibly replacing Miller from the starting line up.

Personally i probably would have gone with Boyd, but it is not exactly a clear cut choice. I would not have played Morrison and pushed Faddy wide.

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Eddie,

of East Edinburgh 14/10/2008 11:30:26
Boyd actually does NOT have a great goal-scoring record. Look at the Facts. He has been picked to start just six games. (Faroes x 2, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Austia and Georgia) Scotland scored 19 goals in these games, and Boyd, an out and out striker got just six - none at all in two of them.
As a super-sub who comes off the bench when you need a goal? Well in nine sub appearances, he netted once - in a friendly against South Africa.
That's not Hall of Fame stuff is it?
He won't be missed.
164

paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 11:31:38
Bring back Willie Ormond!
165

Montford's Jaicket,

14/10/2008 11:31:53
Just a thought, re management styles. How do you think that an old fashioned manager - like Jock Wallace, Shankly, Busby, Stein or even Sir Alex Ferguson would have treated Boyd? Kid gloves or clip round the ear/boot up the rear? Hair-dryer treatment? Kris Boyd would probably have reacted badly to Jock Wallace and the hell of Gullane sands - he certainly didn't get on with LeGuen, but then again he seems to have an attitude problem which caused Alec McLeish and now Walter Smith to keep him as an impact player rather than first pick. Reading statements from some of the squad, he seems to have decided he's either too good to have to work hard in training or that he's not good enough to be in the team anyway so doesn't bother to put in a shift. IMO The problem with Boyd is between his ears. If he had decided to make the most of his natural ability - which anyone can see he has - and supplemented it with a lot of hard work in training and control of his diet off the park he might have been the brightest light in Scottish football for many a year. I can't fault Burley for picking a guy who will work his socks off for the team, instead of a natural goal scorer who will wait for the ball to come to him. At international level there are very few times when that will happen so, on balance, Burley was probably right to leave Boyd off. None of us can say that he would have tucked that chance away - he might have been 3 yards off the pace in which case the ball would have gone across the goal and probably been cleared.
What is clear to me, anyway, is that Kris Boyd has made his choice - I seem to remember a player in the past making a similar choice and the SFA's reaction was "we will do what we can to support him in that decision". Good luck Kris; I hope you can overcome the attitude problem and will see that your own self centred posture is harming the country. We may need you to come back and play for Scotland - but it will not be on YOUR terms. No manager can be held to ra
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Malc.F,

france 14/10/2008 11:32:13
201 Precisely but had the chance gone in I would bet all my money that Boyd would not have said a word.
He has made the mistake of believing that because a lot of people thought he should have been brought on that he would have support for his pathetic resignation. Now he knows that apart from a few misguided Rangers fans he is treated with contempt. As for those that said Burley should not have picked him if he had no intention of playing him,how in the name of the wee man do they no what is in Burley's mind? I am sure that in certain circumstances he may have put him on. My fear is that Aberdeen may buy him.
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Maroon tinted glasses,

14/10/2008 11:35:03
Well done burley, i dont think you are doing a great job for scotland so far but putting that lazy little jumped up premadonna in his place is the best thing you have done. Mcleish, PLG, and backstabber have all been unimpressed by his workrate and attitude so why should burley take the stick for it after all he isnt a first pick for backstabber at the moment so why should he expect anything less for the national team.

maybe he is waiting to see if there will be a UK football team for the 2012 olympics.

you have turned your back on us now and if your ever pull the top on again i for one will boo your every kick!
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 11:37:00
#bring them on

Disagree. While i would not have played McFadden up as a centre forward himself both McLeish and Smith did that.

If you are going with a 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 type of thing the serious question is whether Boyd can hold the ball up enough for a lone type stiker.

Playing 3 in the middle of the park is quite a good option as it can give you dominance of the midfield which we largely seemed to have for most of the game. It also allows Brown to come inside as he has not performed well wide on the right. I could see a Ferguson, Brown and Fletcher midfield 3.

We tend to lack good wide players to play a 4-4-2 and it is good to be able to change it at half time as Burley did. And the change did improve the team. So you are being unfair saying their was not play B.

Serious how many changes to the team would you have made?
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Montford's Jaicket,

14/10/2008 11:37:49
... ransom. Kris Boyd should be told that if he wants to return he will be welcomed - but on the manager's terms. Kris Boyd will NOT select the team until he becomes the manager.
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Alan B,

14/10/2008 11:41:07
The last laugh will be when Smith signs the Wolves guy and dumps Boyd.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 11:41:33
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Jeeeeeesus......can you imagine Boyd doin the Gullane sands stint under Jock Wallace.....

Has anybody ever seen a man vomit his own body weight?
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 11:46:41
#212 let yourself down a bit there...#210 gives more evidence that the boyd phenomenon is perhaps overblown...what have we discovered...
1 goal in 8 internationals coming on as sub (in a friendly)
no appearences in the last 5 old firm games
on as a sub in his last 6 big matches (earlier i forgot walter gave him 4 minutes of the uefa cup final !!) not scoring in any of them.. a large proportion of his goals have been scored against lower division opposition or from penalties..
only 2 spl goals from open play since march..
gee this lads got a bit of work to do
xxx
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stirlingbridge1297,

14/10/2008 11:48:17
Burley is right and he is wrong not to have played Boyd.

I like everyone else didn't understand why he never played Boyd on Saturday and was miffed when the player never came on as he may have got us a goal. Yeah he's scored goals for Scotland and Rangers but that shouldn't mean an automatic place in the team.

I agree with Burley that there must be a reason why he is not getting a regular game at Rangers and that maybe his attitude and desire is the root cause of his bit part play. Football is all about the team, not one player. What message is Kris Boyd sending out to all the youngsters out there who are already disillusioned with the national team? It's the message that if you don't pick me I'm not playing and I'll never play with you again! I don't think I ever did that at primary school as it's completely childish and shows you are only thinking about yourself and not the bigger picture. Kris Boyd should be looking at himself in the mirror and asking why this is all happening. If it was me, I would be doing all I could to improve myself as a player and as a person by doing my damndest to get playing every game for Rangers and for my country.

We are so short sighted in this country when it comes to identifying the cause of our footballing problems. Could the fact that we are not winning be down to the way we actually play the game and not because one player never gets picked? We play the same type of football that we have played for decades. Predictable! Nothing has changed. Every other country has changed the way they play so why haven't we? If we do change our way we will start winning and teams will dread playing us.

Everybody who says that we now won't qualify, get real. There is still loads of football to play and still loads of points for other teams to drop and for us to win. Again its the old Scottish case of defeatism.

Get behind Burley, the team and the country and if Kris Boyd doesn't want to play, so be it. He's only one person...
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steveenglandandGB,

14/10/2008 11:53:12
Ok, outsiders non biased point of view here as obviously I'm not scottish nor a fan of rangers or celtic:

I believe that Boyd has behaved like a spoilt brat and to turn your back on your country is unforgivable, especially as scotland still have a chance of qualifying from this group. You have the players capable and Boyd could have played a part further down the line.

What he essentially has done is undermine Burley, cause disquiet in the squad among the other players and if this continues players lose faith in Burley and underperform.

Boyd could have well have just ensured Scotland don't quality but hey at least he made his point right and said "if i can't play no one can".

Pathetic. We have enough spoilt brats in the England team but I always looked up to Scotland for your team spirit and cohesion.

Boyd appears to have disrupted this.
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 14/10/2008 12:04:41
#220 - Even in 2009, I don't think Rangers are yet ready for a black, Roman Catholic Scot who admits to supporting Celtic as a boy; so, welcome though such a move would be, I cannot see Chris Iwelumo signing for Rangers.

The whole Boyd/Burley thing comes down to this; both come from close-knit Ayrshire mining towns/villages. Burley took his chance to better himself, by moving 400 miles away as a 15-year-old and working on the natural ability he has. Every time he came back up the road on holiday, he was a beacon of hope to his mates, somebody who had got out and prospered.

Boyd moved less than ten miles to Kilmarnock, he's always had his claque of drinking buddies in Tarbolton telling him how great he is.

He then ges his dearest wish, he gets paid obscene sums of money to pull on a Rangers strip and his head is immediately wasted.

I'll buy a Mercedes, three weeks later - naw, I don't like it, I'll ge an Audi. Naw, don't like that, I'll get a Ferrari - no impressed, let's have a Bentley. Down the pub, hey boys, whit are ye drinkin; look at me I'm a big man, I play for Rangers (sometimes).

Burley played at school with the Kris Boyds of a previous generation. Any time he's in Cumnock, he sees guys who could have been contenders, if they could have passed a pub or a bookies as easily as they passed a football.

Burley knows what Kris Boyd and his ilk are like and he doesn't want them polluting his Scotland squads.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 12:08:10
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In truth.....our technical ability is shocking....

There are players in Scotland in the Scotland squad.....who would struggle to trap a bag of cement....

If you watch any of our last 3 internationals.....have a look at each of our players first touch?....

It's abysmal.....we are miles away from most countries in our technical ability.....

Now....moving on....will Boyd get pelters at away grounds when he plays?
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Jambo-ree,

14/10/2008 12:13:54
Maybe Boyd saw the way the wind was blowing and decided to jump rather than waiting to be pushed. Maybe he thought this would help him save face. He was wrong. Probably be shipped out of Ibrox in January too.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 12:14:16
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"even in 2009...I don't think Rangers are yet ready for a black Roan Catholic Scot...who admits to supporting Celtic as a boy"

Depends.....does he bless himself?
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 12:18:26
BTO

Things must be bad if you're havin to trap Japanese burds.....

They're normally as mad as you like and agree to anything....
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 12:19:40
interesting that the monkey media appear to have run out of boyd supporters..and seem to have realised that the vast majority of fans are on burleys side on this...we have had wee doddsey stick up for his pal big boydy hartson say he understands as he did the same thing..traitors unite..big dj understands..barry undersytands..but has distanced himself today.. a number of rangers fans (fair enough its natural to take your players side) the anti burley parasites and well thats about it..maybe they'll start to get behind the team and stop being negative and devisive..as i said last night the bbc put out a 39 second clip from the end of burleys press conference with a negative headline..surley burley abrupt exit or the like..and the scotsman edited out positive comments from riise about hampden and the tartan army
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Jurgen Harbourmaster,

14/10/2008 12:26:05
Classic line:

"You have slaped the faces of the each and every one of the Rangers family. Think thats funny? WAIT and see."

Yes, that is funny on quite a few different levels. Perhaps 'the Rangers family' are like a really scary version of the Adams family, but uglier, that never made it on to TV for the obvious reasons. Well, except for crime watch and the BBC news last April as Manchester got urinated over and smashed.

The days of Rangers as an important institution in Scotland are over. Celtic have been slapping the Rangers family in the face for years and now others are finding the guts to do it and in the process learning that a whole load of hot air is all they will receive in retaliation.

As they sometimes say, some places:

The Gigz Fukd!


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aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 12:38:06
Maybe the Rangers players are actually being very stand-up guys by not playing for their country . They could be so ashamed of their supporters that they don’t want to tarnish their beloved national football team with the same brush as their club has been tarnished. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt and encourage David”I’m not going unless you play me”Weir, and Mr Broadfoot to look to their conscience too . A Rangers free national team would be a true national team.
Can you smell fish?
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aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 12:53:21
#239 Haddy
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SuperSaint,

14/10/2008 13:02:38
Two players, two stories ... one has played all 270 competitive minutes under Burley whilst only starting 3 league games for his club this season, the other has played 10 competitive minutes under Burley while starting 5 leagues games for his club this season ... one is Kris Boyd, the other is Barry Robson ... can you tell which is which?

The training thing only he and his coaches know about so not picking Boyd is his prerogative but to make out it's because he's not getting a regualr start for Rangers, and bringing Mr Smith into it, is erroneous.

Just as it was Boyd's, ill-considered (in my opinion), decision to walk away from Scotland under Burley it was Burley's (alone) to start 4-5-1 in a home game we had to win and to pitch in Iwelumo and Fletcher before Boyd.

You stand and fall by these decisions and, for the sake of Scotland, I hope George doesn't come to regret these ones. Although I fear he already does, otherwise (as he set up for the draw against Norway) he should be delighted that he came away with a point.
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 13:22:56
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Mmmmmm........one is a lazy fat bar steward....one isn't.....

When I was around the 12 year old mark....the manager of the club I played for had me on the subs bench week in week out.....yet I was top scorer for that season.....when my old man asked him why I was always on the bench....the answer was simple....

He doesn't always turn up for training....he tends to be late....he messes about in training....

He has to understand the disciplines of football and accept he has to be as committed as the other lads....if he doesn't I won't play him....

My old man agreed....and gave me an absolute rocket of a tellin aff....
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paulmac,

surrey 14/10/2008 13:39:36
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Neither did I.....which pack did you belong to?
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 14:03:28
shock horror exclusive..in chick youngs blog on the bbc website he has came out all guns blazing in support of.............................................................george burley !!!!!!!....


only kidding the wee parasite has came out strongly on boydys side hard to believe eh..he actually suggests it doesnt matter if boyds attitude at training stinks because he is such a talent !!
its worth a read although have a sick bag ready as his writing style is vomit inducing...
also everyone not banned from the bbc during their cull of fans forum defenders should give the odious wee fellow a comment..i would also appreciate if boyds ledengery scoring record was pointed out to chick...as the idea that boyd always scores is patenetly not the case recently..xxx
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 14:14:07
interesting that in true bbc fashion the few supporters of chick on his blog comments are all (bar 1 ) first time posters the many more critics are long term posters..the wee parasite must have got wee doddsy and dense murdo to join to give his brown nosed rantings some support..

gee its times like this i hate being banned by the bbc...
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Survivor Of Riots,

14/10/2008 14:16:12
The Riot Survivor has some sympathy with fat boy(d).

When I was playing at a lesser level, like he does with the ReaRangers, I too used to indulge in copious amounts of super lager, woodbine and burds.

But when stepping up to a higher level, I realised quite quickly that you had to change your ways. So it was a transition to 5% beer, menthol ciggies and just the 2 burds per day.

Its called discipline.

Its a tough shift, but the pathway to success is built upon it.

Fat boy(d) could learn from the riot survivor.

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Elifan,

Livingston 14/10/2008 14:24:40
Burley is the Manager of the team. There is no "I" in team. Burley included Boyd in the squad to give him an opportunity to shine in training. Clearly he did not do this. Fletcher was allegedly quoted as saying Boyd was the laziest in the squad. Does he just expect to turn up and play???? Strachan did exactly the same to another young talent, McGeady quoting that his choice of players reflected attitude and performance on the training ground.

I agree Boyd has enormous talent and I hope he revisits his decision in the future. But he should appreciate his talent and the fact that there are countless footballers out there who would be honoured to be a member of the Scotland squad.

Chick Young is a complete idiot if he condones Boyd's decision. How could anyone turn their back on Scotland - not being picked to play should make you a stronger person and determined to fight for a place. There is no doubt Boyd is a loss but again its a team game and I hope we succeed without him. Boyd may go the way of Duncan Ferguson and it may be a case of "if only"!
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Bosco Bhoy,

14/10/2008 14:44:28
257 Elifan

How anyone, never mind Chic Young can condone the decision is beyond me.
At the end of the day it comes down to the player, Boyd thinking he should have played ( as most subs tend to feel as they warm the bench) and the manager holding the view that the other players were better options for achieving the correct result.

I wonder at what point is a player ever entitled to walk away from a national team or any football team due to that player not being selected?

Get yer heed down and bust yer baws showing the manager what your worth to the cause.

Is that not how we would advise a young fella playing for the school team or local club?

Why is the circumstances deemed different for Boyd by some?
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 14:54:49
a good point from the bbc website which i think could be asked of all the monkey media...
"What I don't get is why BBC scotland are so interested in the story now? Why no scrutiny of why McLeish and Smith never gave him a starring role? Why isn't Boyd picked against top class opposition? Why did McLeish only give the player less than thirty minutes in his last four games? Why isn't Boyd being questioned as to how he might address the criticisms you are hearing from the coaches all around you at matches?

Rather than pandering to 'Boydy' you would be better telling the player a few home truths and encourage the player to listen to what his managers are telling him. Maybe that way he'd improve his game and make a real contribution to Rangers and Scotland."
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The barfly,

Orkney 14/10/2008 14:56:18
THANK YOU MR BURLEY I NOW HAVE A VERY WIDE RANGE OF DESTINATIONS FOR MY 2010 HOLDAYS WHICH WILL NOT INCLUDE THE AFRICAN CONTINENT.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 14:57:30
#260 you will not be missed xxx
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 15:05:35
another balanced summary of boyd from the bbc comments

"First of all I am a rangers fan and have been a severe critic of Kris Boyd. Having watched him play over the last few years at Rangers I can fully understand Walters Smiths Comments about him being one of the most frustrating players he has ever met.

I agree with a lot of the comments already made. Kris Boyds scoring record with Scotland although looking good on paper, under scrutiny isnt what it seems. I can remember another striker for Rangers, one who was seen as the destroyer of the Advocat reign, and widely seen as the worst striker pound for pound Rangers had ever bought. Yet when you look at Torre Andre Flo's strike record it looks every bit as good as Boyds, there lies damned lies and statistics, they dont always tell the whole story.

What is really dissapointing about Boyd, is during the Le Guen period at Rangers he was very critical of a few home grown players, namely Ferguson, Boyd and Hutton. Ferguson got back to full fitness and became more influential again after Le Guen left, Hutton rolled his slieves up and worked twice as hard to prove Le Guen wrong.

Sadly Kris Boyd reads the comments made by Billy Dodds, Chic Young and Murdo McCloud and thinks he is a superstar and can keep doing the same wrong things. A boss of mine once told me his definition of insanity (or stupidity) and that was people who do the same things over and over again and expect the end result to be different

Kris Boyd is undoubtedly a good finisher ( although McLeish 's last year at Rangers Might say differently ). This begs the question why Kris Boyd does not do more to help himself given the time that he has to improve matters is the truth that he actually is just not good enough as a footballer.

The actions of Paul Le Guen, Alex McCleish, Walter Smith and now George Burley would appear to answer that. And just has already been pointed out why are all these so called big Premiership teams not banging on the
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 15:11:35
..cont.."big Premiership teams not banging on the gates of Murray park to get Kris Boyd out of there , the truth again is they know he is of limited ability and for 89 minutes of a game can be as good as a 12th man for the opposition, you dont spend good money on player that might deliver in the last minute. As much as this pains me to say it if it were a choice betwen Kris Boyd and Henrik Larson in my team Larson would win 100% of the time even if he was injured."

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FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 14/10/2008 15:27:01
The sad thing about these posts is that it splits pretty well 50:50 between Rangers fans agreeing with Boyd and The celtic fans castigating him.
I wonder how the same people would have reacted had it been a celtic player, as it so easily could have been.
Its so easy to jump on the club bandwagon.
Some people are being hysterical in their reaction to this and some fairly wild assumptions have been made.
Personally I think Boyd was wrong in what he did, he could,and should, have done something but in a more professional manner.
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Jambo-ree,

14/10/2008 15:30:46
#265 - You mean like Aiden McGeady? Not quite the same thing but close enough. What is the Celtic fans' viewpoint on him?
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FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 14/10/2008 15:37:40
#266
mcgeady and the young boy from Hamilton have both made their decision and I, for one, will leave them to it. Personally I think they are as wrong as Boyd but it is their decision.
The problem here is that some people critisize Boyd and praise the other two and vice versa. Thats where the hypocrisy comes in, in my opinion.
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FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 14/10/2008 15:39:53
#267
You are entitled to your opinion. Unfortunately the present team has quite a few who are not international class.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 16:10:27
Ah Bertie....Glad to have you back from the Sheriff Court....A wee week stuck indoors with that irritable tag on your leg is a small price to pay for your loutish behaviour..Still!Never mind...You can cuddle up to all us Celtic fans who are only too glad of the diversion from the most boring news story in Krissendom (oops!)
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 16:10:51
#265 50/50 i think not..if it was a celtic player who had behaved like boyd then i would have said he was a jerk...mcgeadys situation is vastly different and the young scot at ibrox who has decided to play for northern ireland is different from a fat lazy big head as well..whether the monkey medias response would have been the same had it been a celtic player is another matter..but then boydy has plenty of drinking buddies in the parasite profession xxx
wee berty sadly your posts are pointless...xxx
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 16:15:53
Gerry..Like to think I'm wise enough to realise that its not the club at fault but the player's intransigence when asked and cajoled to get with the programme.If he thought he could play the "I'm a fans fave coz I score goals for fun" card he was sadly mistaken.Take your lumps,Kriss and if you have any sense...work harder at your game and we might see a decent player after all..I doubt it though...Shame!
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 14/10/2008 16:39:14
the final proof weeberty is either boydy himself or chick young or wee doddsy..and the lack of support has proven too much so its a thread closer post..well its been reported and lets hope that 200+ posters dont suffer due to this one saddo..i wonder what name awaits this moron next ???
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 16:44:26
Bertie..Thats how many posts now where you end your simplistic diatribe with the old "Are you playing with your Boabie?" routine..Are you trying to "Groom" me...?
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FAN OF GERRY,

GLASGOW 14/10/2008 16:48:48
#275 Again you let yourself down with non facts. If you looked round the press reports on this issue you would plainly see that they too are fairly evenly split.
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the beast,

London 14/10/2008 16:52:50
Swordsman,
I think he will be banned by C.O.B today and you did mention his name earlier on the other thread and he appeared like a bad smell...
The guy is a raving looney and must be institutionalised. Only fools and horses need reply.
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the beast,

London 14/10/2008 16:55:43
sonofcosmos, to answer your question,
wee numpty?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 16:57:16
Media evenly split...Yup,they are in a right old quandary re Boyd..."Lemme see,now.IF I slag the fat tart off in public for his petulant behaviour the ordinary man in the street will say "well said",BUT that dont pay my bills or buy me drinks in "Babbity Bowster's" at the weekend if my press accreditation is punted down the marble staircase at Ibrox for going off message....Ach lets just say he was a big daft boay and we'll all kiss and make up afore the Holland game.."
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Daillyman,

14/10/2008 19:26:21
281 the beast

There is no reason to insult fools and horses.
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Lovetruncheon404,

14/10/2008 19:42:08
Whats the big deal?

Le Guen didn't rate him.
Wally Waistcoat doesn't rate him.
Burley doesn't rate him.
No one was falling over themselves to sign him during the summer.

What does this tell you?
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zorba1974,

14/10/2008 19:58:48
Would mcleish and smith have been kept on as managers if they didnt move on after a failed qualification?

Has burley only been given one qualification chance or will he have the opportunity to take us to euro 2012?

Roxburgh and wee broony were there for nearly fifty years between them and that was fantastic football to watch!
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Media 1,

Cape Town 14/10/2008 20:10:46
There have been two games in recent times that filled me with absolute disgust - not because of the results, but because of the way the results came about -

1. Walter Smith in the UEFA cup final - having got to the final it was his responsibility to give the fans and his team an opportunity to score. I can understand his unwillingness to attack during the other rounds, up to the Q/F anyway. But in a final you need to have a go, its a one off, 90 MINUTES! You need to go for it. But what unfolded in Manchester was a total and utter disgrace and a slap in the face to football at large.

2. Burley not playing Boyd tells me that Burley showed a lack of respect for his country - Burley like Smith doesnt want to lose, but he wont set his team up to win either..And it is that lack of belief in his players that bothers me!

Boyd at Celtic would be a 40 goal a year hero because Celtic know how to attack - they celebrate good strikers
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the beast,

London 14/10/2008 21:09:49
Daillyman,
I would never insult a horse or a fool as that would be unkind but Boydie's timing has made an ass of himself and makes me want to boke! To represent your country should be an honour....! I know soldiers who could only dream of the kind of money he is on...and they would lay there life's down for Scotland.... What ever happened to pride? Where has it gone?
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the beast,

London 14/10/2008 21:12:53
*their
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the beast,

London 14/10/2008 21:19:09
for that matter, what ever happened to the Black Watch?
I'm pretty sure BTO will know or Pundit his sister!!
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bluepeterno1,

14/10/2008 23:13:15
#286 If nobody rates him then there is something far wrong with the guy .The second highest goal scorer in the history of the S.P.L. with 117 goals ,must have bad B.O. BURLEY OFSKI
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pelestan,

Alberta,Canada. 16/10/2008 08:13:23
Burley must rate him to be picked in the first place,Smith also rates him,or he would be gone long ago.The spokesman for the Tartan Army,says he is one of our best strikers.So i ask you why 28 MINUTES IN 7 GAMES.I agree with you #292 His record scoring goals speaks for itself..And the S.F.A. must also rate him or he indeed would be finished playing for Scotland..
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WA 17/10/2008 07:54:22
I may be missing something here but if I am not mistaken, Burley was questioned by a journalist about not using Boyd in the last game. At that point he had a choice 1.. To take the responsibility for his decision by saying something like "in my judgement I put on the players I thought suited the situation, if it didnt work out the buck stops with me. Or 2.. Make public statements about Boyd establishing himself at his club first, which are pretty demeaning considering he has started more games for his club and has a better scoring record in the recent past than others actually in the starting line up that day.

Boyd then makes a decision to withdraw from turning up to watch Scotland games as it is obvious to him that he is not getting a game under Burley untill he establishes himself at his club.

Obviously Burley believes the others in his squad have established themselves at club level and that is his view.

So, Burley reacts to what is his interpretation,a dig at him in not playiong Boyd by personally criticising the player. So who intigated this whole thing Boyd?

While I am disapointed by Boyds actions, they are in this current era somewhat predictable. What in my view is of even morre significance is the personalisation of the issue by Burley, who was not as some have stated acting in the heat of the moment after the game , but some considerable time after the game, rendering the heat of the moment argument somewhat moot.

 

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