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Frail warns Goncalves he'll have to bide time for recall



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JOSE Goncalves has been warned he could be facing a long spell out of the Hearts first team if Lee Wallace continues to impress.


Scotland Under-21 left-back Wallace was handed his chance by caretaker manager Stephen Frail after Goncalves walked out of Tynecastle shortly after being substituted during the Edinburgh club's 4-0 defeat to Rangers last month.

The ill-judged decision by the 22-year-old Portuguese player to leave before the final whistle has cost him his place, with Wallace slotting in at left-back for the subsequent matches away to Inverness and St Mirren, and at home to Falkirk.

"Jose will have to wait for his chance now," said Frail. "Lee has the jersey and has done well enough in the last three games.

"Things can change quickly in football but I have said this season already that if players produce the goods on the park then they will keep their place in the team. Lee had to wait for his opportunity when Jose was in the side and now Jose has to do the same."







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  • Last Updated: 26 March 2008 12:45 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

Cammy,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 02:57:20
Poor Jose can't break into this Hearts team....,

Oh my..

Somehow I'm sure he'll get his chance soon.
2

droggs,

26/03/2008 03:22:56
Why would you want to get in the team. Many so=called fringe players are making good money and have hardly played all season. Pinilla for one.
3

KingKenny,

26/03/2008 04:11:11
Jose and Lee is Good LB. I Hope Next season Keep two Players.
4

GOA-JAMBO,

Back Hame 26/03/2008 06:33:29
Steve Frail say`s "that if players produce the goods on the park then they will keep their place in the team".
I presume that our game this Saturday will be cancelled due to the Heart of Midlothian not being able to put out a TEAM !
5

Yamfudkas,

Embra 26/03/2008 06:54:49
#4 How droll!

True though, they were all mince on Sat.

Probably be better if we didnt play, DUFC have hammered us every time since Levein joined them. And I dont expect Sat to be any different.
6

Catholic Jambo,

edin 26/03/2008 07:16:28
Jose out the team because he has been mince all season.
He was rsponsible for a large % of bad goals lost.
7

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 26/03/2008 07:27:13
Meantime...we will have to bide our time until a real manager is appointed.
The current malaise is down to more than one or two "players" not performing.
Earth calling vlad..where are you?












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8

Florentine_Pogen,

26/03/2008 07:27:27
"that if players produce the goods on the park then they will keep their place in the team".

Well said Stevie....

..errm....when did Lord Vlad hand over team selection duties to you ?????
Better be careful, you know what happens to serfs who get ideas above their "interim" station.
9

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 26/03/2008 07:40:47
Another F(r)ail comment. We know he hasn't performed well this season, but I ask why, a lot of his mistakes were repeated so surely one of the coaching staff could point out where he was going wrong. Wallace has been steady enough, but is a better player with Driver in front of him. I think Wallace would be a more consistent winger than Miko. So in the same breath did Frail say Elliot, Neilson, Chesney, Miko and others have played well they deserve to be in the team.

If he is fully in charge then he should give others a chance.
10

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 26/03/2008 08:15:22
Question for the caretaker manager: "Does Vlad still have anything to do with team selection". If your answer is no then you are either lying to the fans or do not have a clue. Or is it you think you are pleasing Vlad by consistently playing inconsistent Lithuanians, o yes he always mentions Elliot so you play him too. Therefore if that is the case then Romanov comes before Heart Of Midlothian as far as you are concerned.
11

TheMoth,

Petrie's Wallet 26/03/2008 08:55:12
#8

"..errm....when did Lord Vlad hand over team selection duties to you ?????
Better be careful, you know what happens to serfs who get ideas above their "interim" station"

Look if you're going to be a wee saddo and stick your unoriginal, boring and deja-vu inspiring oar in then at least try and keep up to date with the subject matter you are commenting on will you, otherwise you just sound like a mis-informed, slow, little sheep who thinks he is funny because he trots out the same old out of date and no longer relevant jokes that were done to death when they were still relevant but now just make you look a bit stupid.

Frail was handed autonomous team selection duties as part of his role as interim head coach when he took over from the departed (thankfully) Angel Chervenkov, this was the official line from the club and it coincided with a major improvment in form and a far more steady, settled team selection each week. many of us Jambos are still wary and suspicious about the influence of Vlad on these matters but but most wouls agree that the stats don't lie and we have been a better team since this approach was adopted.

Unless you have some insider information that we Jambos (who by the way scour in great detail, every statement, release and rumour to come out of our club ourselves, thank you very much) have not heard and are willing to back it up with some kind of evidence (you may need to look 'evidence' up as you Hobos rarely seem to employ the stuff in your pathetic, juvenile swipes) then you really are just wasting your own time as nobody from this side of the town really expects your cr4p to hold much weight and as such put it down to you and your Hobo friends hoping and praying that we don't get it right next season and resume humiliating your wee team on the park with our regular 4 goal routs.
12

TheMoth,

Petrie's wallet 26/03/2008 08:57:43
#10

To be fair, with regards to Miko I don't think we have many other options right now except larry who although he is a better player by far has to be deployed in a more central role to accomodate our woefully unproductive strike force.
13

victorian,

26/03/2008 08:58:16
at least when we had other options up front we could cling on to the hope that elliot wouldn't be playing. at the moment there isn't anyone else that is much better which makes it even worse, knowing that he is the best that we can do.

astonishingly he keeps getting picked for scotland U21 squads and teams.

nade is supposed to be in with a good shout of making it for saturday. as far as i'm concerned elliot and mole are about as carp as each other so i would go with mole this time from the start, elliot started the last one.

14

GOA-JAMBO,

Back Hame 26/03/2008 08:59:11
#10
I see where you are coming from, as the weeks pass and we get closer the end of the season, strong feelings are coming out and understandably so, while frail is not the man to manage Hearts all Vlad done was gave the fans what they wanted.... someone other than a Lithuanian to run the team, many players and ex-players have said give the job to Steve Frail... he has tried his best and frailed (sorry about that but you started it) he has not been helped by the dross that we have at Tynecastle.
I remember reading the back of the evening news one night with the headlines "Hearts Will Be Great In Two Years" the man who said that was the then Manager John Harvey, 1968 I think it was well that`s what being a Jambo is all about.
We will sort it out for next season, as #7 say`s "we will have to bide our time".
15

Eskbank Jambo,

Dalkeith 26/03/2008 09:03:03
#12
you need a coffee and a cigarette my friend. Leave the rantings to the unwashed.

#13
Lucky bag strikers, you never know what you're going to get.

#14
You are correct in that being a jambo involves a great deal of 'roller coasting', but i do have concerns about sorting it out for next season.

Time for my coffee....
16

JamboThrough&Through,

26/03/2008 09:13:14
Posted about this last night when i saw the story on the bbc i see the hootsman has done its usual investigative reporting and come up with good copy and pasting with the addidtion of a couple of words.

""Things can change quickly in football but I have said this season already that if players produce the goods on the park then they will keep their place in the team," Frail added. ""

If players produce on the park. So whats the excuse for Elliot being picked every week, does frail think he has produced the goods? I thought a striker producing goods is by scoring goals, am i wrong in that assumption??? someone please help me out.
17

JamboThrough&Through,

26/03/2008 09:17:23
#17
or john leslie.

Taxi for a f.anny
18

victorian,

26/03/2008 09:20:14
#16 JT&T, it would be great to have a prolific striker as far as goals are concerned but it would even be great to have another bednar style striker to cause mayhem in defences. bednar wasn't exactly a prolific scorer of goals by any means, not for hearts anyway, but when on form he was as good a striker as we've had.

i don't think anyone would mind the fact that elliot doesn't score many goals if he was contributing in other ways, but he doesn't.

frail is becoming boring with the line that elliot isn't producing the goods because his confidence is low as a result of the criticism he gets. too easy a cop-out frail, in effect you're blaming the fans for elliot being hopeless.

19

victorian,

26/03/2008 09:31:18
#17, you've got more chance of telling rix than us. there's a good chance you frequent the same chat rooms.

20

JamboThrough&Through,

26/03/2008 09:33:11
Vic I wouldnt be so against Elliot if it wasnt for frail bigging him up every week, one thing ive never done or would do is boo him or any player in a hearts jersey no matter how gash they are, but the fact i pay my money makes me a customer and gives me and anyone else paying there money a very good right to criticise players when they dont perform. Sadly for me Elliot has failed to do this all season, with the exception of one game ICT. We cant put it down to his age or inexperience, he has been playing a couple of seasons now and couldnt even get into a weak motherwell team.

I agree with its not just the lack of goals if the boy was at least good at something else ie dragging defenders away, holding up the ball, supporting another striker, delivering good balls into the box, or even good with free kicks, but he isnt any good at any of these.

Defenders now see elliots name on the team sheet and think easy afternoons work for us here.

I know we havent had a great choice in strikers especially with the mad one selling bednar/pospisil and velicka, but new systems could have been introduced to try out different things and try different players upfront ie. chesny,miko (Cant believe im saying him) driver. We have makela for whatever reason that only frail knows isnt even making the bench. Our season was over as soon as we went out the cup, that time between then and the end of the season should have been used productively.
21

Denis Law,

Kaunas 26/03/2008 09:35:26

It is ok to choose team if you are qualified coach with good badges, but Coach Frail is impostor. Was he not in charge of boys team and is only with 1st team because he can speak English? He has no qualification to tell Goncalves he is bad player.
22

JamboThrough&Through,

26/03/2008 09:38:46
#22

The only imposters are the ones pretending to be Lithuanians on these forums and the actual Lithuanians at tynecastle pretending to be footballers.

Frails qualification is he has control over the team Vad has put him in charge (So were led to believe) so that gives him the right.
23

victorian,

26/03/2008 09:39:55
#21 JT&T, i wonder if there is any possibility that hearts don't have to:

A) complete the agreed transfer deal with monkey heid for bednar, even though the fee hs been agreed.

B) convince bednar that there is going to be a better regime at hearts from now on, hopefully under a real manager with modern day training schedules and no bermy squad rotation.

if bednar could be retained and signed up on another contract.... woo-hoo!!! happy happy days.

24

Denis Law,

Kaunas 26/03/2008 09:42:48

#23 You need spelling class that Hearts run. Word is impostor. I have made this point to victorian many months ago. Did he not help you when you do homework together?
25

victorian,

26/03/2008 09:43:48
according to talk107 website, hearts will not be disappearing away to austria/germany for a never ending hard labour camp, contrary to the EEN story of yesterday.

26

Denis Law,

Kaunas 26/03/2008 09:46:35

#26 Is that because they have no money for air tickets?
27

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 26/03/2008 09:51:40
12*

I don't think Miko is best option, but only my opinion, I would like to see Wallace given a chance on the wing until Driver back, and try Berra at left back as he does have pace, can close people down and is a sound tackler. With Karapidis and Tall as centre backs, and how about giving young Thompson a chance at right back. Give Screpis and Makela their chance too, can it be any worse trying something different.
28

JamboThrough&Through,

26/03/2008 09:54:22
#28

I could accept if we get beat if we have at least tried something different and tried different players in different positions. Least the you can say well it didnt work back to the drawing board we try something else next week. Theres nothing to lose between now and end of season, you never know we might find a hidden gem in someone playing a different position.
29

TommyTommy,

26/03/2008 09:58:03
27


"Butlins" don't take credit cards.
30

SirSerg',

26/03/2008 09:58:21
#26 victor

If you are correct (as always) in what you say in your post about Austria/Germany maybe HoM will have another team bonding trip to Lithuania.

Our Duty Free is amongst the cheapest in Europe.
31

JamboThrough&Through,

26/03/2008 09:59:52
#31

Good idea serg one of the best you have posted yet, hopefully we can leave the cack Lithuanians there and not bring them back with us.
32

jkm,

edinburgh 26/03/2008 10:07:55
sirserge and denis law, you two really should grow up and get a life, i pity you both.
33

busbyfh,

26/03/2008 10:23:43
# 12

There has ALWAYS been options as far as picking Miko goes.
ALL "managers" over the last three years have had guns put to their heads.
(Thing is , when he first came over he looked potentially great)

No manager - No season ticket.
34

Glorious Hearts,

26/03/2008 10:27:28
#22 I don't ever remember Frail saying that Goncalves is a bad player.
One of the things Shaggy wanted when he took over as interim coach was full control over disciplinary matters. Goncalves broke club rules by leaving Tynecastle before the end of a game and was dropped as punishment.
Wallace came in to replace him and it's now up to Goncalves to prove he's worth his place in the team.
I'm perfectly happy with how the situation was handled to be honest
35

droggs,

26/03/2008 10:33:33
Did someone mention we are going to get a new manager??? Was it Vlad who said that?? Will it be a world class manager?? I think some of my fellow Jambos are still in "believe" mode.
Learn the leason guys. Frail will be dumped due to the worse season in years. Vlad will say he was wrong to allow anyone but him full team control but he has learnt his leason and will bring in some Lithu numpty to steady the ship!!

Frail was always going to be the fall-guy.
36

Indie Rep Kid,

26/03/2008 10:34:28
#37 That would be a fatal move by Vlad.

Although it would save me a couple of hundred quid!
37

Chas Niceass,

26/03/2008 10:41:33
Seems morning is the time to be here, sensible soccer chat!

McGhee seems to be in vogue, now I'm far from certain, in fact sceptical, despite the murmurings that he will be our next manager. But lets look at him and his current club.

This time last year Motherwell were in the bottom 3 and struggling, and badly. Not a lot changed at Motherwell other than the manager, from season end to seasons begining.

In fact, if anything things got worse. They lost Scott McDonald to Celtic and Brian Kerr went to Hibs. I cant comment on Kerr at Hibs, but he was one of Wells better performers, so had to be considered a loss to Well.

In turn Well brought in only a couple of players, Porter to replace McDonald and Hughes, poo-pooed and wrongly by those who were too ambitious here, to replace Kerr.

What McGhee has done is change a team that went from the 2nd last game as a relegation candidate, to a team, that may qualify for Europe, with no money and nothing more than his ability to coach. In short the players were good enough, but Malpas wasn't.

Sticking my head above the parapit here, but I think the likes of Goncalves and Elliot are good enough, the coaches at Hearts aren't.

I like Stevie Frail, but I think he is in a grossly unfair position, he needs to go get his training and learn off a McGhee type figure.

Thats what I'd like to see happen, I believe a lot of the players we have are of a decent quality but they are not being engineered properly.

38

Glorious Hearts,

26/03/2008 10:46:46
#39 hallelujah brother!
39

Indie Rep Kid,

26/03/2008 10:51:15
#39 You shall now be known as Chas Niceassessment.
40

Chas Niceass,

26/03/2008 10:55:38
#40 I think its the most obvious case in years of how players can be berated one year and lauded the next.
Malpas is not doing that well at Swindon either, they struggle to score goals, something that Well suffered from last year.

Our situation is different to Well though that we have the multi-national thing and tampering has gone on.

Given that a least that partially ceases and we have an autonomous coach it will be a start on the road.

Its easy to criticise players, but like any work situation the team/employee is only as good the time invested in them and of course the quality of the training.
41

Florentine_Pogen,

26/03/2008 10:56:11
#11 Moth, thanks for your reply. If you'd cut out the petty insults and name calling however, you would have got it all on one line.

Why do you spend so much time confirming your childishness ?
42

Chas Niceass,

26/03/2008 10:57:13
#41 Thanking you, harder to spell though!
Nice to talk football instead of a barrage of financial crap.
43

droggs,

26/03/2008 11:09:13
39 Do you really feel anyone of any stature will want to come to manage us?? Just think about it. He may receive various promises when the person takes on the job but how long before the interference starts?

Vlad bought Hearts to showcase the lithuanians and sell them on and so make money. Apart from Velicka, and you can hardly say he went to a top or well known club, no Lithu has been sold. Vlad has sold our better players who were brought in by Burley or who were already there.

If a new manager comes in and he is a success then Vlad will put pressure on him to showcase the Lithu's. The current crop of Lithu's know they can do and play how they like as they will still be paid and stay over here until they fall out with Vlad.

Remember it has all happened before.
44

Indie Rep Kid,

26/03/2008 11:16:12
#45 That's the big question: does Vlad really WANT an autonomous manager and, if so, can he convince a potential candidate of this.

If a manager comes in, does well, and then Vlad interferes, he simply walks away and claims he could not work in those conditions. It's not like the media are not going to believe him and his reputation will actually go up.

Look at Burley - not hugely rated prior to joining us and has done poorly since yet he is the new Scotland boss, based pretty much entirely on his work with Hearts.
45

Denis Law,

Kaunas 26/03/2008 11:19:16
#44

Chas, will Goncalves not be sold by Vladimir in summer to fund new players for Kaunas League of Champions campaign?
46

Glorious Hearts,

26/03/2008 11:19:29
#46 well said, it's a fallacy that the Hearts job is not attractive, any new manager can hardly lose
47

Denis Law,

Kaunas 26/03/2008 11:24:23

#46 Was Coach Burley not successful coach with Ipswich Towns club in England? They have reached high position and make the Uefas Cup I think?
48

droggs,

26/03/2008 11:24:32
48 Now sure how you work that one out. Surely failure is failure. If you already have a good reputation you would stay clear of a club where failure is likely.
49

Indie Rep Kid,

26/03/2008 11:26:17
#49 Yes, a few years ago but the Hearts job was make or break for him.

It made him.
50

Glorious Hearts,

26/03/2008 11:31:38
#48 I'll explain what I mean, based on the assumption that a half decent manager is considering the job.

scenario 1- takes job, things go badly. Is sacked or leaves. Hints of interference, everyone blames Romanov, manager's reputation is unblemished.

scenario 2- takes job, things go well. Manager is a genius who has managed to succeed despite Romanov. Reputation is enhanced, a la Burley

These scenarios didn't work with Rix who already had a poor reputation, but for anyone with a decent rep, they really have nothing to lose and at the very least a few quid to gain.

You can say failure is likely but failure is relative- at the moment most hearts fans would take competing in the top 4 next season as progress.
For Motherwell failure looked likely this season, what with losing 2 of their best players but it just goes to show you what a half decent manager can do
51

Glorious Hearts,

26/03/2008 11:32:11
should have said #50
52

Chas Niceass,

26/03/2008 11:38:44
#45-48 I'll take Denis first, simplest answer, yes I think Goncalves will be sold, high wages and possibility of a transfer fee, I'll ignore the boring, repetitive part of your post.

As regards a manager I harbour the same fears as droggs. Things have happened that would tempt decent managers to look elsewhere given at least an equal oppurtunity.

However Romanov has known to be persuasive and could well tempt in someone again.

My fear then will be as Droggs says, when will the interference begin, Groundhog Day.

All we can do is wait and see.
53

Chas Niceass,

26/03/2008 11:45:13
All these points are fair today, I dont think anyone is wrong.
Its hard to guess what will happen next with Romanov, second guessing him is unwise.
I just hope he gets someone in and lets him get on with it, but you wouldn't get a penny of my money on that happening, but as I say he is impossible to read, it could turn out that way.
54

Glorious Hearts,

26/03/2008 11:50:16
#55 I don't think I've ever seen such a display of rational posting on here! Isn't it nice to discuss thing rationally?

Re Goncalves, I know a man who knows a man if you know what I mean and I hear that he wanted to get away in January but no bids came in. He'll definitely go if a half decent offer comes in.
55

Indie Rep Kid,

26/03/2008 11:58:54
#56 You can file Jose under "Might Be Decent With Better Coaching" alongside about 10 other players.
56

droggs,

26/03/2008 12:20:01
Glorious. I have also heard from a fairly good source that Jose wants away. However there are rumblings that a number of players want to follow Bednar and get away as soon as possible. Unfortunately, it seems none of them are Lithu's.
57

Denis Law,

Kaunas 26/03/2008 12:37:41
#52 You are very correct. Vladimir is clever man who let pawns think they in charge, when Vladimir is in control always!
58

Bleeding Heart...,

26/03/2008 20:15:21
Seems to have been a lot of sensible comment on here today!

No firm assertions that "Romanov is definitely trousering all the money, Hearts are doomed, etc, etc. Oh, and by the way, you lot have to prove me wrong..."

What are these threads coming to?

And has yon wifie from Perth carried out her threat and seen off Biley..?

59

Sands of time,

Edinburgh 26/03/2008 22:43:45
Are you ready for United on Saturday. Last 3 results 0-4, 1-3 and 1-4.
0-5 anyone?

 

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