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Levein fury as ref 'bottles it'



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Published Date: 11 May 2008
IN THE course of a devastating attack on referee Mike McCurry yesterday, Dundee United manager Craig Levein repeatedly stated that it was "impossible" for his team to win at Ibrox following a controversy-drenched 3-1 defeat that puts them out of contention for third place in the Premier League and a place in next season's UEFA Cup.
Apoplectic with McCurry for denying his side a penalty and ruling out a seemingly legitimate goal, Levein accused the official of being unwilling to make any major decisions that would be unfavourable to Rangers in their title quest. Television evidence supported Levein's view that, with Rangers leading 2-0, Noel Hunt should have been awarded a 54th-minute penalty after being eased off the ball by David Weir as he made a run across the penalty box. Replays also demonstrated that the offside flag raised by assistant Stuart Macaulay after a deflected strike from Danny Swanson found the net in the 76th minute should have stayed down with the shot breaking off Weir as David Robertson sprinted across his path.

These calls, and his insistence Kirk Broadfoot punched Noel Hunt and Daniel Cousin headbutted Lee Wilkie, provided the gunpowder for an incendiary post-match outburst. Levein, who went head to head with McCurry at the edge of his technical area following the disallowed goal, said: "I said to him we'd have been as well not turning up, what's the point?"

Levein said. "We'd have been as well going at that point, really. Mike could have phoned me this morning and said 'Rangers are going to get three points today, just tell your lads to stay in the house.' It is impossible to win here in important games, impossible to win. The referee has bottled it. He bottled it because he knew that if he's given the penalty he would have to send Davie Weir off. In this game who gives a toss about Dundee United, eh? Who cares?

"What will happen now is I'll get my wrists slapped for having a go at the referee. But that guy knew it was a penalty kick but knew the game was so important to Rangers that he couldn't give it because he would have had to send Davie Weir off. His assistant probably had a better view of it but he's not going to put his head above the parapet. It's Rangers… it is Ibrox… you can't win. An important game going for a title decider? You can't have Dundee United winning that game."

Levein knows the consequence of his outburst. "I'll be sitting in front of six or eight guys, in front of some disciplinary committee in a few weeks time getting a fine, that's what will happen now," he said. "I'll tell you something, after the CIS Cup final (in March] I did my absolute best not to have a go at the referee (Kenny Clark] for denying us a blatant penalty. Maybe some people have mistaken kindness for weakness on my part. There is no doubt if you add what happened today I have every right to be furious. Every right."

Even when asked if he could take any positives from the game, his focus did not shift. "Mike McCurry's not going to referee another one of our games this season," he snapped back. "We played well, made chances, passed the ball. They did everything they could to try and win today, be entertaining, try and show that coming here they are not scared, not going to bottle it, and they did that. But what's the point?"

He snapped again when asked if he was worried about keeping his players calm. "Noel Hunt got punched in the face at the goal, a deliberate punch by Kirk Broadfoot, and Cousin head-butts Lee Wilkie. It is not my players that need to worry about discipline, the referee should control the Rangers players.

"A season long is how you end up in third place or fourth place or fifth place, but these decisions add up. It might be that an extra £125,000 for a league place is added to my budget, in fact I know it would be. It might mean an extra place for me next season. It might mean, when I get an injury I could put a good player on rather than a kid. Do people not think about that? It is all about the pressure on Rangers, that's what it's all about?"

Prodded to do so, Hunt was willing to add his voice to the debate. "It just seems to be Rangers and Celtic's league," said the United striker. But it is not just about them, we don't care abut them. We were pushing for Europe."

Hunt maintained "you can't get much more of a stonewall penalty" than when Weir, in his opinion, took him out of it. "You can't beat 12 men, to be honest," he said, later adding: "Whatever the excuse they have got away with it."

To have a goal "chopped off like that, it's like cheating" Hunt said of United's disallowed strike. And Mark de Vries's caution-earning ironic checking with assistant and referee before the header he netted to make it 2-1 in 76 minutes, Hunt felt was entirely understandable. "He didn't celebrate because he thought it would be taken off him, after the first one was taken off for nothing. He was being a bit sarcastic and he was right."

Former United player Christian Dailly countered that since arriving at Ibrox in January he has formed the impression that Rangers are more often on the wrong end of decisions. "There have been lots of decisions not given that should have been given in our favour," he said. "It looks like a couple went our way today, but that is not the norm."

The full article contains 978 words and appears in Scotland On Sunday newspaper.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:17:31
mm..how long will we be allowed to comment on the most bias referee in the spl giving another outrageous performance at ibrox....
funny in europe an attempted headbutt gets you a red card...but in mccurryland it gets you a yellow..but hey it also gets the guy you try and headbutt a yellow card as well...(a bit like fergusons european card count v his domestic punishments)
the medias moral outrage at levins comments just nail their colours to the mast..anyhoo today did tarnish the credibility of the spl...but hey celtic did get a soft corner last week !!!!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/05/2008 00:20:53
Great 7 points from 3 games in the last 6 days against 3 of the SPL's top clubs, and the heat is back on Celtic as a very capable Hibernian roll into town, needing something to keep their UEFA hopes alive.

If Celtic get officials favouring them with contentious decisions as they have in their last few SPL matches, then Hibs have no chance unfortunately.

But I live in hope.
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NZGrantBear,

11/05/2008 00:25:21
Cousin was foolish in Italy, deserved his red, however the Fiorentina player should have been booked as he provoked Cousin...didnt have a good view of the incident today but if its similiar then its hardly surprising that Wilkie got booked.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:25:24
your brass neck is admirable bemused ..but today the spl took another big blow..we all know mccurry chose not to give the penalty..and it is hard to disagree wiyj levien..but as he said all that matters to the media is that rangers are doing well.so you can be pompus and patronissing..but mccurry was a disgrace today...and sadly this thread wont last long..the other thread has already been closed after 1 post..mines..which was the same as the first post here..censorship..afraid so..x
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 00:25:29
I understand Aberdeen also had a legitimate goal disallowed today that ended their hopes of playing in Europe.

Didn't see Jimmy calderwood frothing at the mouth afterwards though.Theses thing s happen, live with it.

The "penalty" was no better a claim than Rangers had turned down on Wednesday night but I dont recall Levein phoning in or appearing in print to suggest Rangers were robbed by a cheating referee but those decisions helped Dundee United after all.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 00:27:07
Linesmen do occassionally put their heads above the parapet , and in the most extraordinary circumstances.

Linesman Andy Davis knows all about that. He saw the foul that never was, and from an impossible angle, but he was 'certain' that it was a penalty to Rangers, in the last minute , which allowed Rangers to win the match, and subsequently the league (on goal difference).

There was no doubt about this one though, and all honest people know that McURRY didn't make any mistake...he knew it was a penalty, he knew that Weir would have to walk, he knew that Rangers were in BIG trouble.

He also knew that the ball came of Weir before it went into the net...he was in a FAR SUPERIOR to see what happened than the linesman was. McURRY took advantage of the linesman's error to save Rangers AGAIN !
He will hide behind the linesman's flag, but he knows the truth of it.

I didn't see the alleged assault by Broadfoot, but could not fail to spot Cousin headbutting Wilkie.
Again , McURRY showed his true colours , and 'fine' they are too.
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GraemeH,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 00:28:29
#2 - Comparing a corner, which may well have been a corner as TV is not wholly conclusive (watch Porter - he did not even complain at the time!), or an offside which takes three replays and lines drawn across the pitch before the commentator realise McDonald was approximately 6 inches offside, and with guidelines which say if in doubt favour the attacking team with what was witnessed yesterday does you no favours. There is no comparison with these extremely marginal calls compared with the series of blatantly wrong decisions made by McCurry today.

Levein has taken the lid of the Pandora's box of support by certain officials for one team in particular. It remains to be seen whether the SFA's Chief Executive has the bottle to take action against his own team.
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 00:28:56
My crystal ball is still warm from the rubbing. Celtc at home in a crucial game may well be awarded a game winning decision today.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:29:21
#3..buffel should have had a penalty ..especially after seeing it in slow motion ..but hey if the referee had done his job then by that time rangers would have lost another goal and been down to 10 men..which you "gloss over"..its nice rhough as a rangers fan when you know the media are in murrays back pocket..oops sorry im mistaken as the papers have been full of smith proving murray is a liar when he said he has never sacked a manager..oops sorry again..it was actually almost completely ignored by the media monkeys x
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 00:31:25
7 invictager,Kent

Indeed they did. Only one set of supporters call these decisions cheating and corruption.
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 00:32:05
#9
So what about the blatant penalties we didn't get oin wednesday. One of them at least saw a defender hang on with two arms round the Rangers player's neck. No marginal six inch offside or dodgy corner there.

Was that anti rangers corruption or just a referee "bottling it" Levein style
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Jed Zeppelin,

Dundee 11/05/2008 00:32:21
...about time somebody had the cojones to stand up and say what everybody in Scotland has been saying for an eternity. The SPL is run for the benefit of celtic and rangers. how dare Dundee United turn up and actually try and play.(granted they were two down at the time). these decisions make a mockery of an already often chastised SPL set up.

Well said Craig Levein.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:32:24
I now hardly care about this league, I hardly care about scottish football and I hardly care about McCurry and the rest of the cheats who have delivered trophy after trophy to Ibrox year in year out.

However what I do care about is justice. I care about people who undeservedly receive injustices like today. I'd rather remove what happened today from Celtic and there current pursuit of the title. I'd rather focus on the feelings of Craig Levien, Eddie Thompson and every Dundee United player and fan.

Tonight these people must feel terrible.

They must feel as though they are living in a democracy but are not allowed to vote.

They must feel like they are innocent men sentenced to death.

They must feel like they have rights but can't exercise them.

They must feel like my Irish forefathers felt like when they arrived in Scotland escaping a potato famine starving and looking for employment only to see signs above shipyards saying "No Irish Catholics Need Apply".

The saying life is not fair is so true. Today it should change to - Life is fairer than Scottish Football.

It has to stop. If this occured in Italy or Spain their would be a criminal trial and the culprits would be heading for jail. That may sound like an exaggeration but corruption in sport is a serious crime in other parts of the world - mainly because of the gambling involved.

I am seriously going to be writing to the Government and the House of Lords urging them to hold an official inquiry into the Scottish game. Not for the sake of Celtic or the Celtic fans but for every decent person involved in Scottish football and to save the Scottish game.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/05/2008 00:32:49
Lighten up cosmos.

Recent decisions have favoured Celtic, and today will probably bring more of the same. In the meantime, Rangers got a wee break yesterday. I welcome it. Take it from a fan of a team who knows, you need a wee bit of help when you're going for a domestic treble and a major European trophy all at the same time.

Now, book your TV seat for Wednesday night, disconnect the phone, and get behind Scotland's representatives in the final of the UEFA Cup, as RFC attempt to become the first Scottish club to win it.

Oh, and don't forget to find a good vantage point for the bus parade through Glasgow that follow follows.

Life is good.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:33:07
..what you rangers fans cant see through your bias .is that leviens comments were not about only the 2 disgraceful desicions today..his comments were about enough being enough..but as i said the media will soon forget to mention it..but celtics corner seems to have been the most dreadful mistake made by an official this season..x
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Jed Zeppelin,

Dundee 11/05/2008 00:34:54
...forgot to add: MON THE ZENIT!!! Scotland expects!!!
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:36:32
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BE supports indeed welcomes cheating.

Shame on him
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 00:37:23
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OTT post there.
Its football, get real.
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 00:38:11
#15
You are getting a wee bit hysterical there. Its a football match.
What the hells it got to do with your forefathers.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:38:25
cosmos

Exactly. Enough is enough - Levein even mentioned getting cheated out of the League Cup and how this has been going on for years.

It has to stop and I will endeavour to make it STOP! The game needs to be saved.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/05/2008 00:38:29
Nope.

I support Rangers, Timmy.

Great season.
Isn't it.
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Teary Ennui,

11/05/2008 00:38:53
"funny in europe an attempted headbutt gets you a red card" (#1)

Funny then that in Florence Cousin was shown a second yellow.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:38:56
#12 i think you will find that a manager of a spl club made these comments..which celtic fans have indeed gone on about for ages
#13 the incidents on wednesday were at best 50/50/..to compare them with todays performance by mccurry is just stupid..(but hey you could compare them with celtic getting a soft corner !!as the media monkeys do
#14.jed rightly or wrongly in your opinion it is worth pointing out that leviens comments were directed fair and square at rangers..
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Teary Ennui,

11/05/2008 00:40:27
Funny too that Celtic fans are raging after all the favourable refereeing decisions their team has had recently.
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 00:41:01
18 Jed Zeppelin

Hi did you know that Jimmy Page attended the odd Ibrox game when he was living on the Eastern hill of Loch Nes?
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 00:42:12
#26
I will welcome your admission That its only 50/50 tomorrow if a Hibees defender wrestles skippy to the ground and the ref looks the other way.

Actually just goes to show that opposites on this forum will never agree. I see a stonewaller you see a maybe. That will never change.
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Teary Ennui,

11/05/2008 00:43:01
#31,

Every game you play.

(Makes just as much as sense as what you said.)
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 00:43:17
31 Celtic_minded_,

Easy,

Celtc away to Falkirk, 3 stonewall penalties turned down and an offside goal from the Celts to win it.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:43:43
Ajax / Invictager

It's just football to you and me. To Craig Levien and his players it's their livelihood.

Todays decisions have cost them thousands if not millions of pounds.

It's not OTT. It's been going on too long and has to STOP!

You guys are sensible enough to see that cheats shouldn't prosper, you are intelligent enough to see that sport is about fair play and rules.

I don't want to turn this into a tit for tat OF debate, I want nothing more than justice for Scottish football. Aberdeen also were robbed today by a bad decision, it's no use just to talk about OF decisions and ref's incompetence - this is worse than that. There is corruption going on and it will be investigated.
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Maisie from Morningside,

Morningside. 11/05/2008 00:45:48
We saw this on the telly.
Either the ref is incompetent or.......
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:46:03
24 BE cheatlover

same difference
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GraemeH,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 00:46:23
#39 - the only stonewall penalty in that game was when Lee Naylor was taken out. Even Falkirk fans I know admit that - although you fail to meniton it.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/05/2008 00:46:45
Was the offside goal that stood against Falkirk just a "lucky break"?

Was the free-kick against St Mirren just a "lucky break"?

Was Aberdeen's disallowed last gasp equaliser a "lucky break"

Was the offside goal against Rangers just a "lucky break"?

Was the penalty for an infringement outside the box in the same game just a "lucky break"?

Seems like a lot of refereeing "lucky breaks" if you ask me. In fact, that list alone has won Celtic 9 points by my calculations, without which you'd have been down and out a long time ago.

Poor, poor Celtic.
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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 00:47:02
15# and while you're at it get them to count up all the breaks that you got in the last two OF matches. That's equivalent to two seasons worth of breaks for Rangers in SPL matches.

Now away and snivel for the next two weeks, until the 22nd when we rub your nose in the merde.
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 00:47:15
31 Celtic_minded_,

Haha

If you dont agree then its made up, it you think its true then its a fact.

Fact is the Quad is on.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:47:18
....~37 can we agree that the disallowed offside goal was a dreadful decision ???

and again what is different is that a manager of a non old firm team (and i couldnt tell you if levein has any sympathies either way..) has came out and said teams are cheated at ibrox..you might want to laugh that off but it does tarnish our game..even more than david murrays nerve to mouth off about anything after being shown up as a liar..but hey theres a suprise ..x
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:48:21
Just heard on radio that George Galloway MP will start an investigation into Scottish football corruption and bigotry within the game.

The man who faced down the most powerful government int he world will be taking on the SFA/SPL - squeaky bum time right enough.
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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 00:49:38
54 that asshole has seen the writing on the wall? Hahhahahha.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 00:49:42
Rangers fans are keen to generalise the debate and talk about the odd decision here and there.

We are talking about ONE referee and the fact that he habitually makes the most outrageous decisions which ALWAYS favour one club : Rangers.

I hope that McURRY does sue Levein for defamation, because he will lose and Levein's comments will be upheld as 'fair comment'.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:50:05
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It's not integrity he lacks, its guts. He's a characterless rat just like his old man and I reckon his kids will be going the same way. A characterless gutless shower who endorse cheats and corruption.

No wonder Britain is in decline with gutless wonders like BE floating around.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:50:37
#47..like our soft corner..the nakamura free kick also got an incredible amount of media attenon.....these 2 decisions arent even in the same universe when it came to mccurry today..
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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 00:51:00
40 do Aberdeen ever score v septc?
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Teary Ennui,

11/05/2008 00:51:12
"And yes that's the very same McCurry who overtly favoured RFC at Ibrox v Celtic in October" (#36)

That's odd since he disallowed a good Rangers goal and turned down a stonewall Gers penalty claim.

Add to that not sending off Boruc for trying to strangle Weir and not sending off McDonald for assaulting McGregor and there's a REAL four incredible decisions that went in Celtic's favour.

Or let's take the last Old Firm game. A McDonald goal that was offside, Caldwell handled the ball three times (at least one inside the Celtic box) without being penalised, a penalty for Celtic where McDonald actually fouled Broadfoot (watch the BBC online highlights), an appalling assault by Hesselink on Faye that didn't bring a red card. Four? Pah! :0)
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 00:51:25
I have no problem admitting McCurry f#cked up badly today I just resent the" only rangers benefit" crap.

Don't forget Dundee United had qualified for nothing yet and were in no better a position than Hibs.

As you said Aberdeen also lost out on Europe today without the hysterical aftermath.

There is no corruption - only incompetence.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:52:20
..is this mccurrys last season ?? if not he surely has lost all credibility and could not be allowed to referee rangers again (except when they need 3 points )
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Marky Bhoy,

Dunfermline 11/05/2008 00:53:12
We have had the rub of the green ( forgive the pun ) on more than one occasion this season .

I am sorry to say mistakes were made today but I dont think they were genuine
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BEMUSED EXILE,

11/05/2008 00:53:28
Oh dear, Tim's turned nasty again.

Strange how people revert to type when the pressure is applied. Back to insulting the family again.

I feel your pain.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 00:54:02
This very blatt uses the words 'drenched in controversy'.

I think even by McURRY'S standards, new depths were plumbed yesterday.
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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 00:54:11
god u septc fans are hurting this week...
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bluepeterno1,

11/05/2008 00:54:15
#39 nice one ajax
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:55:00
I don't condone hooliganism of any kind but refereeing decisions like todays will eventually lead to riots. People just aren't going to put up with it any longer.

NO MORE CHEATING! NO MORE CORRUPTION!

Song moment - Sunday Bloody Sunday
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Silence of the Yams,

11/05/2008 00:55:51
McCurry's gutless performance showed him for what he is: a Rangers patsy. He's not alone tho, there are several so called referee's who help out RFC week in week out; and some others who bottle it at Celtic park. Meanwhile, other clubs suffer when these incompetent officials choose to flex their muscles at smaller grounds. Hibs have had very bad recent experiences from meessrs McCurry, Dougal, Richmond and the vile Alan Freeland. All of these characters are in the employ of David Murray as far as I'm concerned. It stinks!
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jon1312,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:56:34
"Recent decisions have favoured Celtic"

yeah, such as getting a corner against motherwell. that is definitely comparable with avoiding a penalty and 3 red cards.

there is no one in the world to touch rangers fans for thick-necked arrogance and self-regard. if they had any shame whatsoever, they would avoid this thread like the plague out of sheer embarrassment.

mccurry was a disgrace to scottish football today.
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Prime,

11/05/2008 00:57:00
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Good point about that Buffel penalty, Levein should definitely have remembered that in the CIS cup final.....


oh wait that was against St johnstone in teh scottish cup semi final

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/scot_cups/7353598.stm

still you're right he did gloss over that.

how convenient.....

Any other incidents from completly unrelated games that Levein should consider?
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GraemeH,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 00:57:00
#62 - McGregor delberatley stood on McDonald's feet. Twice. When he shoved him off Weir came up an aggressively shoved McDonald in the chest. McDonald was booked, perhaps harshly, but no action was taken against the Rangers players who both committed offences at least worthy of a yellow card.

Hey, but don't let a few facts get in the way of your argument.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 00:57:07
Celtic fans have accused McURRY of blatant bias in Rangers' favour for months, and noone in the press would really take it on board.

I think in some way Celtic fans have been vindicated by yesterdays' farce, and the fact that another football manager, totally unconnected with Celtic, has now accused McURRY of the same thing.
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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 00:57:44
The cheats won at septc park v Rangers. It was appalling and you know it.
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 00:58:22
Only the Celtc minded can be haverin on here tonight.

The important TITLE decision this season was taken by an assistant referee. Head to head, Celtc vs Rangers, Celtc are awarded a win from an offside goal.
No recriminations from Rangers fans, I don't even care to know that official's name.

Show some class bhoys, if your team is good enough you will win.
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harshreality,

11/05/2008 00:58:28
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Falkirk - yes. 1 decision in a match. A close one at that but the kind of mistake that is made in every game.
St Mirren - It was a foul. There was contact, the defender missed the ball and he went down. Soft yes but no softer than the foul that led to your first goal today
Aberdeen - have you airbrushed Sammy's goal from history. Let me refresh your memory. 87 mins and Celtic and Sammy gets his 2nd and Celtic go 2-0 up. But wait a minute - Brines saw something that noone else saw and chalked it off. The game finished 1-0 instead of 2-1
Rangers game - 6 inches off side. You went 2-1 up so it didnt affect you too much. As for the penalty would you sober up - you should be grateful it wasnt a red card as well
You didnt mention the Motherwall game so I will. celtic scored from a dodgy corner. Motherwell missed from theirs. Thats hardly celtic fault now is it.

I can handle honest mistakes but I'm afraid what we saw today can not be swept under the carpet as a mistake. All the key decisions went against United due to McCurry's cheating. The man should never be allowed on a pitch again.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 00:58:54
..fraser wishart asked why would referees cheat and could anyone give him evidence..well send him a tape of todays game ..and why am i going to parkhead tomorrow..because i favour celtic..x
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11/05/2008 00:59:05
I still feel the league will go down to the final day. Even if Celtic were to slip up tomorrow, I could see Rangers then dropping points against Motherwell, or even St mirren.

As for what will happen on the final day- I haven't got the scoobiest!
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 00:59:07
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Not nasty BE just stating fact and opining on probability.

Also I see you too are lapsing into the age old cliche "I feel your pain" every time someone says something you dislike. Have you anything new to say instead of the same old guff used by every second moron on here?

BE you need to take a long hard look at yourself. You openly endorse cheating and corruption FFS. What kind of kids are you going to be bringing up if you can't distinguish right from wrong.

It's really seriously sad.
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jon1312,

dublin 11/05/2008 00:59:15
"Was Aberdeen's disallowed last gasp equaliser a "lucky break"?"

what you seem to be forgetting is that brines blew the whistle and everybody, including all aberdeen's players except diamond, stopped dead. that is why diamond was able to put the ball in the net.

also, earlier that day celtic had a perfectly good goal of their own (samaras) disallowed by brines.

comparing that match to the two david weir incidents today is just daft.
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Teary Ennui,

11/05/2008 00:59:20
#82,

Don't worry. I won't let your demented rantings get in the way of the facts.
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11/05/2008 00:59:58
86# only cos septc were gifted victories by refs
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Kent 11/05/2008 01:01:18
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Yes. Absolutely awful decision for no reason I could figure.
I have no idea if Levein has any leaning but still feel he was a little over the top. Its a b#gger if its against you but is Levein seriously claiming DU have never had a decision in their favour.

If celtic get a break tomorrow i will say nothing other than what I have said for the last few weeks ie. these thing happen.
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GraemeH,

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#93 - Glad you acknowledge that what I said is correct and that Rangers players escaped punishment.
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Slovakia 11/05/2008 01:02:26
bBemused exile....please enlighten me as to what bemuses you? if it is the scottish journalists (sic) inability to comment on the disgusting (why don't you go home) chants from the rankers "faithful" then you have my understanding....otherwise please crawl back under the rock you call home.......please give your crayons to a responsible adult before replying
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:02:39
87 we are winning.

But we are standing up for justice and standing against cheating and corruption. Are you with us? Are you a decent fan? A football fan? Are you someone who wants fairness in sport? Or are you another character slimy rat like BE who endorses skullduggery and blatent cheating?
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11/05/2008 01:02:41
#98,

Let's replay the last Old Firm game when so many bad decisions went against Rangers. :0)
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Teary Ennui,

11/05/2008 01:03:21
#101,

I didn't think your rantings could get any more demented but they have.
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11/05/2008 01:03:50
90 Richardinho,
I agree.
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Publilius Syrus,

R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopping !!! 11/05/2008 01:04:09
Craig Levein very eloquently exposed the corruption running through our Scottish game that has allowed Rangers to challenge Champions Celtic and to falsely claim that Rangers "won" the Corruption. Is. Successful. Final.

Well said Craig Levein.

Your speech is immortal now.
Isn`t it.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:04:20
again..we are returning to our default position about this ..rangers fans pointing out decisions that have gone celtics way and vice versa..the difference is that a manager of an spl club has accused referees of being bias towards rangers ..an alligation that many have suspected for years..for someone inside the game to say it makes this a very serious issue which requires investigation.
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Edinburgh 11/05/2008 01:04:27
#106 - Not sure where I am ranting, just putting some balance in your argument. Which you accepted.
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11/05/2008 01:04:35
98 yep and let's replay the last 2 OFs and StM v septc; Falkirk v septc; septc v Spartak.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 01:05:38
I know from the e-tims website that Celtic fans singled out McURRY in lorry-loads of correspondence to UEFA over the past several months.

My understanding is that the response from UEFA up until this point has been cool.

Now Celtic fans can bring this latest farce to their attention, and the remarks of another football manager who has not the slightest connection with Celtic.

Mabey now UEFA might start to take an interest in McURRY , and how he has managed to hang on to his license, and how he came to be officiating in a match that Rangers went to extraordinary lengths to have postponed.
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 01:06:11
92 jon1312,dublin
For every McCurry there is a Brines.
You will win if you are good enough.
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11/05/2008 01:06:35
102# Dubliners seem to think it's funny - why do you think it's 'disgusting'?
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Kent 11/05/2008 01:06:39
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No, read my post at 63. I just see stupidity where you see conspiracy.
Why no big headlines about Aberdeen being robbed by corruption.
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11/05/2008 01:06:40
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Thats a good point. The interviewer on Radio Scotland tried to drag the term "Old Firm" into but but Levein stopped him and said he was playing rangers and not the old firm.
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Slovakia 11/05/2008 01:07:07
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11/05/2008 01:07:10
Was this the compromise of the sfa ?

No you can't have a postponement, BUT? we will put mcurry in charge ?
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Kent 11/05/2008 01:09:19
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Neither were DU
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11/05/2008 01:10:57
119 sorry amigo not me; you're even out of touch with the ould country.
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glasgow 11/05/2008 01:11:29
#123 trueblue im suprised this thread has lasted so long..but nice to see you going out of your way to close it..finding the accusations of rangers receiving favours from bias refs a bit uncomfortable x
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:12:11
I now hardly care about this league, I hardly care about scottish football and I hardly care about McCurry and the rest of the cheats who have delivered trophy after trophy to Ibrox year in year out.

However what I do care about is justice. I care about people who undeservedly receive injustices like yesterday. Think of the feelings of Craig Levien, Eddie Thompson and every Dundee United player and fan.

Tonight these people must feel terrible, the bottom has just fell out of their world.

They must feel as though they are living in a democracy but are not allowed to vote.

They must feel like they are innocent men sentenced to death.

They must feel like they have rights but can't exercise them.

They must feel like my Irish forefathers felt like when they arrived in Scotland escaping a potato famine starving and looking for employment only to see signs above shipyards saying "No Irish Catholics Need Apply".

The saying life is not fair is so true. Today it should change to - Life is fairer than Scottish Football.

It has to stop. If this occured in Italy or Spain their would be a criminal trial and the culprits would be heading for jail. That may sound like an exaggeration but corruption in sport is a serious crime in other parts of the world - mainly because of the gambling involved.

I am seriously going to be writing to the Government and the House of Lords urging them to hold an official inquiry into the Scottish game. Not for the sake of Celtic or the Celtic fans but for every decent person involved in Scottish football and to save the Scottish game.
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11/05/2008 01:13:22
128 Wednesday's gonna be great - just imagine the introversion that awaits you when we win!!!

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Kent 11/05/2008 01:13:25
I can actually understand Levein having a rant because the biggest breaks Rangers have got this season have been in two games against DU.
What I can't understand is the celtic fans point of view as any other club outside the OF claim they also get every decision going. A la Man Utd and Liverpool in England etc etc

When we ask for foreign refs where do we look, Italy where they are bought and paid for?
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 01:13:59
108 Celtic_minded_,

Are your cheats better than our cheats or are ours cheats better than yours?

If your team is good enough you will win.
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MM; Total Embarrassment to the Game. 11/05/2008 01:14:05
Mike McCurry had a shocker and all the Bluenoses know it. We are not talking about marginal offsides and corner kicks, those we can debate about because all teams get some and lose some. We are not even talking about free kicks. The crucial decisions that the referee got wrong were either through sheer incompetence or some other factor. If it is incompetence then fair enough, he shouldn't be reffing at this level. If it isn't incompetence then we have to look at his record and "abilities" and decide why is he making these decisions? The Whistleblower site will be interesting during the week but I won't hold my breath.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 01:14:13
Morning All....Glad to see we are all of one accord as usual.
I never saw the game today but from what I hear McCurry had another stinker.Lets get the OF bias out of the way and concentrate on the real issue here which is, IF this man can't referee a match to save hisself,why is he still employed to do so?

NO AGENDA Just looking for the facts...
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11/05/2008 01:14:31
130 are you suffering from serious dementia or what? Repeat after repeat after repeat. B o r i n g.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:14:36
132 well if you cant see the inaneness of your posts i cant really help..but hey where do you stand on a spl manager saying refs cheat to help rangers x
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11/05/2008 01:14:38
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What do you want me to say?

One dubious tale from your childhood versus 300 plus years of Irish Catholic persecution and injustices. Hardly a comparison is it?
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They didn't get "help". 11/05/2008 01:15:27
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DU were better than you in the CIS Final.
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11/05/2008 01:16:58
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Ask ex Ranger and fellow mason Gordon Smith
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11/05/2008 01:17:33
143 septc got umpteen decisions in the last OF. Probably about 7 or 8. Isn't that enough or is that the average that you expect per match?
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:18:27
Rangers were undoubtedly beneficiaries of some dubious decisions today and one could feel a degree of empathy with Leveins outburst..................my ar&e - Dhims in meltdown and the Teds off to Manchester while they'll be watching River City or some other p*sh on their stolen Tv's - happy days!!
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:19:09
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Like Craig Levein we have had enough of it. 120 years of it. It has to stop and it will. The investigation will really weed it all out.

This will be on a par with the Fergus v Farry case.
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11/05/2008 01:19:19
149 why don't you GTF?
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 01:19:35
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Thought we were getting off the tit fot tat. Neither you nor I will ever see it from a small club fan point of view. You know they view both OF similarly.
I have already said I will not try to defend today - still no proof of anything other than bad judgement though.What happened to innocent until proven guilty of something.
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11/05/2008 01:19:41
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Repeat what?
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Unrepentant FB,

Slovakia 11/05/2008 01:20:16
#123...trueblue.....you poor child...words fail me....you are called h_uns across scotland and beyond.....do you care to comment on your pre-souness signing policy....to be fair it probably pre-dates your rankers "support" (never miss the highlights on tv
).....i think you would struggle to name the rankers back four/five/ten.....delete pending on match
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 01:20:24
140 Swordsman

He isn't very good. Unfortunately he is there for a reason, there is no one any better.
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Dublin 11/05/2008 01:20:46
Tut Tut KS...Most of the 'gers will actually be in Manchesters Albert Square to watch the game so lets no go doon the soap opera road please! RICKKKKKY!
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:20:55
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Aye BTO here's a joke for you....Rev Mike McCurry.

A sick joke I know but a joke nonetheless
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glasgow 11/05/2008 01:21:23
#162 and another first for the mighty gers..a football manager saying that referees cheat on rangers behalf..tarnished indeed x
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The best-Rangers,

11/05/2008 01:21:24
#145, Put that in perspective with 2 millennia of catholic prosecution of anyone and anything not catholic or 'on message' and you'll maybe get a little respect.
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11/05/2008 01:21:44
158 23 what J O?
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Kent 11/05/2008 01:21:48
Tim will you please get back to football.
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11/05/2008 01:23:22
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I have made the same request to RFC and their fans for over 40 years.
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F.A.R.C.E. FansAgainstRuinsCensureEnigmas !!! 11/05/2008 01:23:47
BBC Radio Scotland didn`t half get ripped into what they seen as blatantly biased decisions,5 of,going in Rangers favour.

I mean,its not only Craig Levein who have had enough and are willing to stand up and be counted.

1)Kirk Broad foot punched Hunt in the gub and burst his lip and tongue...did not get red carded.
2)Kooooh-Saaaahn once again stuck the nut on an opponent,this time Lee Wilkie....did not get red carded.
3)Carthorse Weir halfs the DU forward in two inside the box....no penalty awarded.
4)Big Weirisome as last man should automatically have been shown the red card....it did not happen.
5)The hapless Weirisome rifles a cracker past his own keeper....wait for this....this one takes the biscuit....the Dundee United goal is chalked off for...OFFSIDE.

Rangers were encouraged and permitted to destroy the integrity of The Scottish Premier League today.

Scottish Football deserves better than this disgrace.
Doesn`t it.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 01:24:11
Ajax...Not NEARLY a good enough answer given the gravity of the situation re the Championship race/third spot etc,but I take your point.A sad indictment of Scottish Football if the best excuse is "Hes Sh*t but thats the best we can come up with..."
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Slovakia 11/05/2008 01:24:28
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glasgow 11/05/2008 01:24:38
like #174 suggests will all the celtic supporting idiots going on about ireland masons etc rap it..it takes away from the amazing situation where a manager of a spl club has said that referees cheat to help rangers..that needs to be investigated.
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monkey man,

11/05/2008 01:25:26
For your perusal. Here are some " honest mistakes" by all those hordes of Masonic refs Celtc's last four games.

1 ) Fir Park- Celtc wrongly "awarded" a corner which directly leads to the match winning goal. In the same game, Celtc's Robson throws a Motherwell player to the ground, ref Conroy yet again sees nothing, then play continues with not even a yellow card produced.

2 ) Celtc Park - Aberdeen cheated by ref Ian Brines by disallowing a late legitimate goal by Zander Diamond.

3 ) Celtc Park- Celtc's Robson forearm smashes Rangers Christian Dailly in the face in the very first minute of the first Old Firm double-header...Dailly is thereby warned by ref Kenny Clark for "complaining."

The violence continues when Celtc's Hartley breaks Ranger Lee McCulloch's leg in a shocking over the top challenge...no straight -red card for Hartley for exactly the same sort of tackle which seen Motherwell defender Bob Malcolm player immediately shown the same the recent week on the same pitch versus Celtc.

Vinegar of Castlemilk attempts similar on Rangers Nacho Novo later in the same game. Ref Clark " hammers" the Dutchman with a yellow card.

4 ) Celtc's Scott McDonald scores the opening crucial goal in the second Old Firm match with a blatant offside goal. He later stamps on and fouls Rangers defender Kirk Broadfoot clearly outside the penalty area yet falls inside the box to "claim" a penalty kick, dutifullu awarded by ref Craig Thomson.

Celtc's Robson, who should have been missing from this second game due to the straight red -card he should have received from Kenny Clark in the first for his forearm smash, then converts the winning goal from the converted penalty kick.

I haven't even give special mention to the disgrace of Celtc's McManus handling the ball into the net at Fir Park recently either, or the prior games at Falkirk or Love Street with Nakamura's embarrassing late minute dive for the free kick which won the points.

Where do I si
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And what has that got to do with me?
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11/05/2008 01:26:24
Any Road Oop. Hey Chucks can you mind my handbag...? I'm off to catch kilty.
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The best-Rangers,

GIRUY 11/05/2008 01:27:21
GIRUY to all you tim minded out there. You'll never win the league.
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11/05/2008 01:27:24
McCurry unquestionably favoured Rangers over penalty today but object of dhim anger for disallowed goal should have been linesman. Levein has a point to an extent in that Utd have been unlucky against Rangers (i didn't think CIS penalty incident was incorrect though) but Dhims defy belief as usual as they've had numerous favourable decisions of late and for once given the Nyon postie a break from their incessant stream of letters to UEFA - that well known bastion of "integrity & fairness". No doubt said postie will be busy boy on Monday - probably about as busy as McCurrys local glazers - Greatest fans in the world indeed!!
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11/05/2008 01:27:40
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Well your name just about sums you up. You are a monkey man.
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11/05/2008 01:27:45
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Well your name just about sums you up. You are a monkey man.
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11/05/2008 01:27:58
Given the meltdown tonight with tarrier fans, I am guessing that you are all very worried and nervous. Now if septc fail fail tomorrow is it all over? I suppose Levein will lie down and let Strachan have him in the last game just to get even after all the whinging today.

Now here's some Maths for septc fans:

League Cup+UEFA Cup+SPL+Scottish Cup = what?????

Answers on a postcard please, to P Liealot, septc park, Wrong End of Town.

Good night, and may you all snivel into your Guiness for the next ten years.


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#186..again monkey man you can attempt to liken some of the decisions that went celtics way with the outrageous display by mccurry today..and in the past..the difference is .a manager inside the game has said refs cheat to help rangers..you agree that needs to be investigated as today tarnished the spl
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11/05/2008 01:28:49
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We have done the last two seasons. Away back to your hovel son.
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11/05/2008 01:29:30
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We have done the last two seasons. Away back to your hovel son.
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11/05/2008 01:30:11
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An is that what masons do?
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Kent 11/05/2008 01:30:14
Ok lets leave it at that. I refuse to believe it is anything other than bad refereeing and you think otherwise.

The offside goal I give you but would like to know who decided what, maybe its the linesmans fault.

The "headbut" - cousin is a clown but as someone earlier pointed out he got the same punishment from a continetnal ref last week so again ,a judgement call.

Penalty - I gave my take on that much earlier.

I would hope to stay sensible and can guarantee I have been saying for weeks to calm down about celtics good fortune and just accept it.

We are begining to place too much importance on this stuff.
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11/05/2008 01:30:22
Lets not forget Basket-Balls-Semi.

The Very Reverend The Mike Mccurrupt was in charge there too.

He was five yards from the incident when Basket-Ball controlled the ball with his upper right arm before patting the ball into position with his right hand and then volleying into the net.

The Very Reverend got away with that one too,and without explanation.
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Dublin 11/05/2008 01:30:29
Big green yin...Thats Arithmetic...Ah! The benefit of a denominational School.....
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Slovakia 11/05/2008 01:31:01
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The best-Rangers,

11/05/2008 01:31:18
GIRUY Mouldoy, you'll never win the league, both cups and the UEFA cup.

GIRUY sonny.
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glasgow 11/05/2008 01:31:31
#196..your sad narrowmindedness hardly deserves a reply..but hey if rangers win all 4 trophies it will be an incredible season for them..im not sure where the history breaking part theat the media go on about comes in..but there you go x
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11/05/2008 01:31:53
#198 - "tarnished the SPL" - do you not get saddle sores on that high horse of yours?
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:32:02
Max do you notice hwo they are all disappearing like snow off a dyke. They realise they have no argument. Cheating is cheating is cheating. There is no disguising the fact. They are a club full of hollow victories and shallow glory and followed by hordes of drunken bigots.

Scotland's shame.
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Dublin 11/05/2008 01:32:02
Not going anywhere lads but will say "Goodnight"now as this thread will close in the next 10 mins for all the crap thats been spouted....
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The best-Rangers,

11/05/2008 01:32:16
#205, Pubic Syphilis, you talk shyte sonny. GIRUY
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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 01:32:53
182 run along now, past bed time in Slovakia.

Actually, it's only the west of scotland taig that seems to have an issue with this. Your Dublin cousins have firmly rejected you as w o r t h l e s s; ie. they don't want you back.

In fact from what I hear they don't even want Mctraitor.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:33:17
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And what has that got to do with masons?
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 01:33:39
#204 Invictager.

You will not be permitted to say that you believe it to be bad refereeing.
You need to accept and admit that your club is in receipt of UndueInfluences that allows them to be challenging for the SPL and to falsely claim they "won" the Corruption Is Successful cup.
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The best-Rangers,

11/05/2008 01:33:42
#213 Metal Alloy, we have lives, you obviously don't.

GIRUY ya keyboard whalloper.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:34:03
#204 i agree with a bit of what you say..but ultimately..from a sporting point of view..if someone inside the sport says ther is cheating then we need to investigate it.
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monkey man,

11/05/2008 01:34:29
I'm off to my scratcher laughing in the knowledge that the Tims are howling in rage and anger. lol


WATP
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:34:52
#169 - didn't realise my prose was lacking - eastenders is terminally dull anyway and i get enough of that at home anyway - Hollyoaks all the way - irrespective of storylines (are there any?) quality burdz!
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 01:35:02
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Well your name just about sums you up.

Well your name just about sums you up. You are a monkey man.

Well your name just about sums you up. You are a monkey man.



So good you said it thrice.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:35:12
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What's that got to do with the debate? re; cheating?

fyi...Catholics cannot join the masons. So in effect they may be welcome but if they join they are not catholics (or for that matter christians)
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Edwards Legend,

11/05/2008 01:35:27
Vlad was Right !


This board seems full of Old firm bigots arguing over who has had the most dodgy decisions this year.

Embrace each other guys ! you are cut from the same bitter twisted hate filled cloth.

Try supporting a football team (not a religious hate squad) and you may actually realise what its like for the Scottish teams to play in a fixed league
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The best-Rangers,

11/05/2008 01:36:12
#224 weak_minded, you didn't need 4 decisions, one or two was enough to secure you the game and secure the officials families in their own homes from the rage of celtc fans with bricks.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:36:21
#211 a manager has accused referees of cheating to help one club...for circumstances to provoke such comments..and the fact they may be true suggests a level of tarnish dont you think ??
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:36:28
Anyone know if Walter Smith is going to be investigated and charged for physically abusing young kids whilst he was assistant manager at tannadice?

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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 01:37:06
KS mair diddies to be seen wearing black at the minute,but I will tune in to check it out tho....:@)
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The best-Rangers,

11/05/2008 01:37:29
GIRUY celtc fans
GIRUY celtc fans
GIRUY celtc fans
GIRUY celtc fans
GIRUY celtc fans
GIRUY celtc fans
GIRUY celtc fans
GIRUY celtc fans
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 01:37:50
224 Celtic_minded_,
Been there done that.
Celtc away to Falkirk, remember?
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The best-Rangers,

11/05/2008 01:38:00
#231 when celtc are charged for molesting the youngsters in their care.
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Unrepentant FB,

Slovakia 11/05/2008 01:38:23
#182 anti greenian...you do not disappoint....i wait with baited breath for anything approaching a justifiable argument for celebrating the deaths of millions....come on, lets engage that brain cell that's rattling about in there and come up with an argument...come on kid, you know you can do it
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:38:52
#234..and your take on the allegations of cheating are ...???? (yes im being ironic..so im sure ive lost him x)
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:38:55
#224 - i don't watch Celtic matey - two eyebrows and i don't own a shellsuit ;-)
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:39:07
#224 - i don't watch Celtic matey - two eyebrows and i don't own a shellsuit ;-)
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:39:14
#224 - i don't watch Celtic matey - two eyebrows and i don't own a shellsuit ;-)
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:40:19
Murray says "the world is laughing at us"

News for you Davie boy, the world has been laughing/sniggering at Rangers FC for decades going back to the decades when your club wouldn't employ catholics - during a time when the RC Church was the world's largest most powerful organisation - yet your narrow minded insular wee club still refused to contemplate signing any of the 600 million people.

But it doesn't stop there Davie, they have laughed/sniggered Since 1873 when Rangers (a rowing club) attempted to play football - think Scott Nesbit, Bob Malcolm, Sebo and I need say no more.

So the world has been laughing at the RFC board and the wannabe players but the biggest jokers of the lot are the ramshackle bigoted rabble that you Davie call supporters.

These are people who sing "we are the people" yet they have not one clue just what people they are. Let me explain Davie, they are born in Scotland but they wear England strips and sing songs about Ireland and worship a murderous tyrannical dutchman and an old wee fat german woman. Confused? It gets better.

They also have an affiliation for the BNP, Nazism and extreme terrorists in the North of Ireland who are harming and have harmed physically, mentally and emotionally British subjects - but hey get this they call themselves British. Confused? It gets even better Davie - read on.

They then claim to be protestants - a Christian religion. But when did Christ ever support murders, tyrants and worship anything other than God.

Yes Davie, confused as they are, they are the people unfortunately they are your club's people and unfortunately they too are a laughing/sniggering stock. Think Barcelona 1972. Yeah I need say no more.

Rangers FC - the laughing stock of the world. Well said Sir David Murray.

Ps..The world is now investigating why Referees blatently cheat to hand Rangers trophies. No laughing matter that is it?
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Kent 11/05/2008 01:40:33
#221
Agreed.
I have no doubt it will rumble on but we are begining to place it above real life tragedies instead of keeping it in perspective.
#219
Who is not permitting me to say that. You are the biggest idiot on these forums.You wouldn't recognise impartial if it bit you.I will discuss football with any fair minded person but not you.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:41:20
walter smith..i was sacked by rangers ..sir dave ive never sacked a manager...mmmm who speaks with forked tongue >?????
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 01:41:42
Song moment for the (Ahem!) Tit for Tat gang....

The Smiths.."That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore...."
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:42:17
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any proof? any witnesses? or are you just a liar?
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:42:50
#248..hey lets not agree too much..we're meant to hate each other after all x
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 01:43:08
Poor wee Walter "TT" !

He was asked to explain the big Weirisome penalty just after the game on the telly.

Wally said," we were refused two penalty claims against Motherwell during the week and you never asked me about that" end of Smiths quote.

Excuse me Walter "TT",but the question was about todays game against Dundee United !!

Guilt doesn`t half make you give stupid,senseless responses,eh !!
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 01:43:31
219 Publilius Syrus,

Hey Pax, How's things?
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:44:17
#255..and the media reallly gave him a hard time hahahaha x
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:44:55
#247 - Good old Tim Malloy - back to his ways of old - knew your recent enlightened views wouldn't last - the pain is evidently herculean tonight - soooooperb!
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 01:45:21
Ok I see we are getting silly again.

Goodnight and try to keep it out the gutter. No BJK crap. No walter beating somebody 25 years ago either.

Its meant to be about football.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:45:27
trueblue = ninenro = ignorant pleb
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Unrepentant FB,

Slovakia 11/05/2008 01:46:02
#234 the best rankers

you are truly a mental colussus

actually, amongst rankers fans, you probably are
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Bemused and above it all,

11/05/2008 01:47:56
Late on and going to skip the latter descending into accusations/factual; events sh@te.
Ok dodgy decision, we got the points, then early doors a flood of dhims complaining.
For the record Cousin was sent off for a 2nd yellow not a staright red so there is the parity with europe.
Secondly HOW THE F@@K can you say anything?
I give you Robson on Daily. If a foul was given then so to should a staright red, no attempt on the ball just straight in with the elbow, but we know how that one panned out!
GIRFUY!
You have had the lions share of decisions from refs, sfa, spl since the whole Dallas incident, about time someone took you to task and still live in the faint hope that UEFA will want more than a 'have a word' sanction for a player who has proven time and again to be an absoloute W**K! Lets face it the whole T-shirt thing was obviously preplanned, as such an intent to breach the peace was planned and hey it's also sectarian so again GIRFUY, you want a level playing field its going that way, the SPL/SFA have sh@t themselves following the disgraceful way they pandered to you dhims, they fear a backlash, they shouldnt bother as their windows (and kids) are safe!
GIRFUY!
WATP!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 01:48:15
that's it....GAMES A BOGEY....If you cant have a sensible debate about a footie match without bring up quasi religious posers when its fairly obvious to all and sundry that you couldnt find a place of worship with a map,beggars belief ( no pun intended)...Can we get back to the subject please??
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 01:48:16
#254
I dont hate anybody. My dear old mother is one of you. She gives me enough stick when celtic win without me needing to come on here.

I very very very nearly hate Man Utd though.
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11/05/2008 01:48:51
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there there
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Bemused and above it all,

11/05/2008 01:49:28
Is it cold in our shadow?
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:49:40
Trueblue - don't play into their hands old chap - just sit back and poke fun at their festering rage - its far more enjoyable!
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sonofcosmos,

11/05/2008 01:49:41
trueblue if you cant see how your filth gets threads closed i pity you..speak soon when you respond with somemore sweary words with gaps ..sadman x
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:49:52
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is the one eyed king any relation to the wee fat german and are they masons?
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11/05/2008 01:50:42
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it is agreed
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:52:07
#272..i take it by "one of you"..you mean celtic supporter..x
and yes i dont hate either..you see what hate does to enough of the cretins on these boards to know you need love x
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Bemused and above it all,

11/05/2008 01:52:16
Bouncy, Bouncy, Bouncy, Bouncy........
Sorry mister mcNee not about jumping on someones head!
Another dhim lie!
After reading the posts am really p@@sed off and want to go on a rant and expose/list your catalogue of shame but unlike you lot I work and am doing so tomorrow, will have the radio on to hear HIBS give you a right humping!
WATP!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 01:52:20
True blue..would that be the Blue Nile,The White Nile or the Red sea?Hmmmn...Where have I seen that colour scheme before? LOLOL
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:52:58
What position should the good rev Mike have on the team photo next year ?
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 01:53:37
Think I have already said no BKJ crap etc, keep it about football etc. Cant see anyone telling idee to shut up.

Anyway - parting words.

Were all going to Manchester, COME ON THE GERS
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 01:53:55
gee is that the time..ive got a match to go to tomorrow (today) sad this thread will be no more in the am x
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 01:53:57
lol

Max check out wee TB stagnant and out of hisd hovel and he comes out with the old BE cliche "I feel your pain" it's now very funny.

Where do you feel my pain Trueblue?

By the way is your trouser leg rolled up?
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 01:54:13
275 Celtic_minded_,

Hope you're anti bigot stance is backing the Gers against the racicist Zenit.
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11/05/2008 01:54:41
#285 - kettle black pot ??
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Unrepentant FB,

11/05/2008 01:55:22
#270... Bemused and above it all..............i enjoy the irony of your nom-de-post, as you are quite clearly above very little....or is it merely your WATP psuedo-superiority you are clinging to
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sonofcosmos,

11/05/2008 01:56:03
actually after reading true blues posts perhaps its no bad thing thread disappeas..sad x
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 01:56:20
#288
Yes. And like the rest of you she knows sod all about footie- boom boom. (sorry mum)
And goodnight from him.
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11/05/2008 01:56:34
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It's been a pleasure beating you again Ninny/Trueblue -you are definitely a tad easier than some of the others but still it's fun tying you up in knots and then accepting your surrender.

Back to your hovel wee man
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 01:57:20
#298 - "thread will be no more "

Wouldn't be so sure - obviously a bear acting as moderator tonight as its lasted this long!
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Sick as a Parrot,

11/05/2008 01:58:59
As a Hearts fan we had to endure Davisgate during the OF title race 3 years ago. Everyone laughed at Hearts then. But Rangers wo the league that year because of an absolutely disgraceful decision.Then we have Bazzas blatant handball goal in the CIS semi this year.

Scottish refs ?

Beyond farce.
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:00:35
#305 - deja vu - i should have known - getting slow out of practice on the boards due to their continual closures!
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Unrepentant FB,

11/05/2008 02:01:33
anti-greenian pls see post 238....i await your response.....apologies if you are playing tig with your sister
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:01:48
Glad to see the torrent of abuse is slowing down...Either the Buckie is wearing off or I'm missing a dirty flick on channel 5...Footie anyone?
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:02:02
#311 - "Everyone laughed at Hearts then"
We haven't stopped :-)
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 02:03:29
BTO funny I think it's one iof the best threads of the year - as it's highlighted the biggest problems in scottish football.

cheating

bigotry

corruption
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Ajax MacKindling,

11/05/2008 02:04:22
Celtc bhoys do you really want to back Scotland in the Uefa Cup Final or Russia.
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 02:06:16
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I do back Scotland and Scottish Clubs in the European competitions.

Shame there is no Scottish club in any of the finals isn't it?
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Scottish cup winner 2006,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 02:06:25
Well done Craig for your comments.

For too long the OF have gotten every decision going these idiots don't even live in the real world they cannot see past Celtic and Rangers.

I think it's hilarious that they moan about decisions against there teams they should spend a few weeks following another team to se some real injustice.

Between them they have the worst offenders for diving,simulation,aggression and intimidation of referees yet these players never get picked up for it either in the media or by the officials, OF fans need to get a grip.
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Unrepentant FB,

11/05/2008 02:07:28
Keyboard suppporter....i like you, as you clearly understand thst the establishment look after your mob and you don't lower yourself to trying to justify it....it takes a special kind of person to be able to do that, and you are clearly very special
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:10:00
#321 - Quite fecking right too - the proletariat must be kept in their rightful place by all means necessary - now get back and clean my mansion serf!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:10:01
Ajax...Been turning that one over...Hand on heart,if the 'gers had played decent footie up to this stage I would have grinned and bore it and plumped for Scotland.Problem is I HATE that type of footie (No excuses about end justifying means etc).Unless the 'gers turn up with a "Brazilian mentality" I'm going with Boney M..."OOOhhh! Those Russians!"
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Scottish cup winner 2006,

11/05/2008 02:11:31
Keyboard supporter glad to see you are open minded for a discussion, typical old firm fan.

I'm surprised you can work a keyboard ya muppet
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Unrepentant FB,

11/05/2008 02:12:05
#322 touche.....what the hell is someone of your intelligence doing supporting that mob!!!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:12:48
Who won the SC in 2006?
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11/05/2008 02:13:23
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Swordy was it Celtic?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:15:38
Hmmn Nah..Maybe the gers or Aberdeen or the Arabs...naebody else springs to mind....WAs it a "Family Final" maybe?
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:16:12
#325 - I couldn't get on with the old shellsuits to be a "shellik" fan
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 02:16:41
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wasn't it the Gretna penalties final?
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:17:48
#328 - was it not the "larsson" final just after "helicopter sunday" ?
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 02:17:52
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Serious question - I have never worn a shell suit - are they comfortable?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:18:19
KS obviously a man who would rather wear a jacket with multi coloured piping and brocade...Ah! to be a "Beau Brummell" type dandy in Glasgow! FANCY! ;@)
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 02:18:32
It might have been the Larsson final
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Smithy5,

11/05/2008 02:19:11
Lets look at the incidents.
The penalty would have been soft as the two players came togather. It is never a sending off as Noel Hunt mis-controlled the ball and knocked it out to the right side of the penalty box therefore it was not a clear goal-scoring opportunity.
Cousin headbutt. He's an idiot but the referee wasn't looking at it as it was off the ball so even booking both players was a bit of a joke.
Broadfoot punch- I was at the game and have no idea what this controversy was about.
Offside goal- This is a fair complaint but a difficult call for the linesman.

All of these incidents occurred before De Vries goal and United didn't have another chance in match so get over it. Persistent fouling by several United players and several dangerous tackles could also have resulted in red cards.
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:19:54
#333 - i'm not THAT intelligent!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:20:00
My boodle is on Peterhead V Cowdenbeath...Or was it Ptted Heid V Corned Beef?
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Unrepentant FB,

11/05/2008 02:20:05
#329, well, it's unfortunate, but you seem to have reconciled yourself with the virulent bigotry and sectarianism that envelops your chosen team...off to bed now, hope an angel visits you in your dreams and shows you the light....
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:21:28
#332 - "I have never worn a shell suit"

I thought you were given one gratis with your ticket for Darkheid - surely!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:22:44
Smithy...You sound like Lloyd Grossman in "Through the Keyhole"..."Lets look at the clues again...Penalty denied,no sending off for violent conduct and a legitimate goal chalked off.Who would referee a game like this?Over to you David"
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:25:21
#338 - the light you see is probably the glint from the coins raining down at the San Giro
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Scottish cup winner 2006,

11/05/2008 02:26:54
Would have been a family final if Sellic were involved swordsman you guys are really big on your extended family after all.

Celtic fans just edge it for the most narrow minded fans in all of Scottish football.
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:29:50
#342 - Explain your sign in - the dhims won in 2006 did they not?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:32:13
Thanks SC winner...We aim to please as the most inclusive club in Scotland.........As for being narrow minded,might I suggest a look in the big reflecting thingy in the Bathroom and I dont mean the shiny erse oan yir faithirs troosers...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:35:07
KS I know that as a 'gers man you missed out for a couple there but surely you kept abreast(there's that Hollyoaks thing again!)of the fact that the wannabees from Gorgon Rd stumbled over the line against the MIGHTY Gretna...
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Scottish cup winner 2006,

11/05/2008 02:36:41
well 343 i have no idea what the dhims are.

swordsman you're amazing, the most inclusive, exclusive club in Scotland.Keep up the good work, where in Ireland is Glasgow after all.

What drew you to become a Celtic supporter? do they not have any football teams in Dublin?
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Roderick,

11/05/2008 02:38:33
So, might the Romanovs have been on to something?
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:39:36
#345 - i stand corrected.

Don't you think someone ought to tell the Jam Farts that cheap eastern european imports are supposed to be plumbers & brickies?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:40:32
SC winner...Big mental leap coming up....I'm Scottish by birth but irish by ancestry (PROUD OF BOTH BY THE WAY!)and took the advice of our brothers in sport across the clyde that the famine was,indeed over and I could go home...So Begorrah and Bejaysus etc ad nauseum...
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Unrepentant FB,

11/05/2008 02:42:20
#341...as opposed to the potatoes hurled by the uglies in a celebration of the deaths of millions....come on mate, you seem a sensible guy..turn towards the light
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 02:47:25
#350 - "celebration of the deaths of millions"

I think thats stretching it a bit - theres no denying BOTH sides have some real plankton but rivalry makes us all do things at a football stadium ( i exclude the Meccano dome from the latter description obviously) we wouldn't normally dream of doing in day to day life.
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Scottish cup winner 2006,

11/05/2008 02:51:52
I am Irish in ancestry too however it has nothing to do with the football team that I support I was born in Edinburgh and support my local team.

KS the same eastern europeans that beat you 4-2 earlier this season so they can't be all bad eh.

Never thought I would see Celtic fans and rangers fans agree on anything so it seems you have a united goal here, glad to be of service.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:52:54
KS up to a point I agree but when you have numpties singing about Orange Crushes (yup I'm that old!)and Johnny Doyle ditties (Its my attic, and I'll fry if I want to)there comes a point where enough is enough...

BTW do the 'gers fans get the tatties from "The Gardiners Arms"?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:56:44
SC winner...CEAD MILE FAITE! Glad to have you on board...I'm a Hoops fan coz my uncle took me to see them when I was 8 yrs old..The Lisbon Lions...How could you not fall in love with that? No political agenda (but I'm up for that discussion too) just fab footie and it stuck...Most fans of whatever hue will say the same thing,I bet
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:57:34
That of course should read "CEAD MILE FAILTE"
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 02:58:56
BTO...The Butler did it....Sorry to spoil it for you...
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Nordickoala,

Birkdale 11/05/2008 03:04:09
Living in Australia, it is probably unfair of me to comment on the 350 "posts" on this subject, but something seems wrong and needs addressing. Here in Australia, in Rugby League, all contentious decisions are referred to a referee sitting in a box somewhere where he has full camera access from all angles, as to what happened.He makes the final decision, not the referee on the playing field. This in my opinion works very well for Rugby League players , clubs and the fans. I am sure this suggestion has been put forward and discussed before - may I make a suggestion to the SFA, if you have not seen it before, why not at least give it a try for a season, and see what the clubs,fans think of it at the end of the trial season.
Not only would you be dealing with those contentious refereeing decisions, but you would also be able to have proof of those faking diving decisions.
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Keyboard supporter,

11/05/2008 03:05:47
#354 - I don 't want to get into a pseudo intellectual discussion about the relative merits of one anothers songs and whose fans are worse etc as i prefer to leave that to the usual terminally thick trolls on here - of whom there are many. For what its worth my short psynopsis on it is as long as its left to 90 mins at the game then i don't see the major fuss in it - sticks and stones etc. I personally don't like the BJK ditty but as i have said in the past its only due to continued reaction it engenders (the analogy of poking a wasps nest is quite apt) and if the shoe was on the other foot it'd be no different. Rangers have a sizeable proportion of supporters (i think Murray called them the F T P brigade) who will never change but likewise Celtic aren't without their own plankton likewise. Rivalry being as it is you always find faults in the others actions and however much people claim impartiallity its only human nature that this is the case - apologies if i bore you to sleep
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 03:15:00
KS..I agree that if you elicit a reaction from the opposition fans "Hey! keep on doing it"..There is a bit of a martyr culture within my own support (wouldn't go downt the MOPE road tho)and ,of course there is an opposite and equal reaction from the gers support when mention is made of unsavoury things (From the 'Gers Restaurant,I believe!)that get the dander up...I truly believe that there are certain sections of both supports who ACTIVELY seek out these slights to get them "G'eed up" so lets not get all het up over it...Smile and let it wash over you!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 11/05/2008 03:17:18
BTO...Doc Martin DVD? Did you get it from a car BOOT sale?I'm on the Amstel Lager but its after 3 am here so my scratcher awaits.....Later guys....Mon the Hoops!
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polarised,

Manchester... it awaits us :D 11/05/2008 03:31:13
# 30

Falkirk away is just one. They were denied 3 stonewall penalties, McManus breaks the leg of a Falkirk player who was crudely scythed down while moving in toward goal, in a reckless challenge - and doesn't even see yellow... and oh yeah...

McDonald's winner was clearly offside! which the linesman blatantly ignored. But of course, as Bitter Maguire always opines... "these decisions level themselves out over the season"... but only when they go Celtic's way, otherwise the league's tainted y the stench of cheating! *rollseyes*
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NZGrantBear,

11/05/2008 04:48:06
REF CHEATS CELTIC FROM WINNING LEAGUE. Sounds good. HA-HA-HA-HA. Mccurry to ref Dundee Utd v Celtic, in an attempt to make up for his errors in the Rangers game I hope he awards Dundee Utd 2 penalties and chops of 2 celtic goals.....wouldnt that just be brilliant!
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Donner,

austin 11/05/2008 04:50:41
I only saw the game on the web and the penalty decision was a bad one. However, as a former referee I believe that the offside rule states that a player is offside WHEN the ball is played forward and there are less than 2 players between the player and the goal line unless they are not interfering with play. It does not matter that the ball came off Weir if there was a DU player in an offside postition and interfering with play. The officials obviously thought so.
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doug ferguson,

Houston, Tx 11/05/2008 05:14:16
Celtic Fans, you enjoyed your breaks these last few weeks....I don't need to list them. Today it was our turn.

However, please keep up the paranoia, it makes the ascendency of Rangers all the sweeter.



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Mandela,

Bujumbura 11/05/2008 05:36:55
The Rev McCurry......only in Scotland.
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2117,

Behind the goat 11/05/2008 05:58:56
Something is rotten in the state of Scotland.
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2117,

Behind the goat 11/05/2008 06:12:13
Charlie`s sister's pants
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PatG,

Glasgow 11/05/2008 06:53:22
The Scottish handicap league is a joke and always will be a joke. Rangers the world record holders for league title wins...........what a laugh???
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asbo,

Livi 11/05/2008 07:01:28
All credit to Craig Levein but nothing will happen as far as his criticism goes of the state of referring in Scotland, He will be hammered by the SFA and biased towards the old/firm will continue. As for Rangers attempt at winning the Uefa Cup’ won’t happen in my life time because the second they are asked to play football instead of the 11 players behind the ball routine they have adopted recently, they will lose.

And No I’m not a Celtic fan.
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W Smith,

Middle East 11/05/2008 07:14:33
Who remembers Paul Sturrock's perfectly good goal being chalked off-side by a West of Scotland ref when Dundee United were trying to win the League Cup for a record three times playing ... yep ....you've guessed it... the 'mighty' Glasgow Rangers at Hampden?!

Sorry folks nothing new in this story.

SOS - Same Old S*#t!

BTW
And no I'm not a bitter Arab - just an Arab.
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 07:21:26
Tough luck United, you got shafted by the ref yesterday, we know how you feel. Nice to see the Sillytic supporters' fair and reasonable comments on fair play, justice and "sporting integrity". Just when you thought you'd infiltrated the establishment via the SPL enough to stymie The Famous Glasgow Rangers, up pops a rabid Masonic bigot in black to thwart your plans. Ooh, I do love a good conspiracy theory.
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James,

Dundee 11/05/2008 07:26:38
Let there be no doubt about it.

McCurry was Hand-picked as a 'result ref' for Rangers.
And boy did he deliver in spades.

Just as he was in the previous Rangers v Dundee United fixture, where he overruled a linesman 'rewarded' Rangers an offside goal, and had no problem awarding Rangers a soft penalty albeit it was saved by Euan McLean.

Just as I was warned on this very forum before the league Cup final that Kenny Clark was 'hand picked' to deliver Rangers a trophy after a relatively barren period.

Yesterdays decisions leave every Dundee United supporter sick to the pit of their stomachs.

We are 100% behind Levein.
He threatened McCurry (check out his Wiki entry which a United fan added yesterday) with removing the players from the park. Well I can tell you Craig, we would have bee 100% behind you if you did.

We would urge you to NOT to pay any fine and NOT to observe any ban. Lets take the SFA all the way to the courts on this one.

This time things have gone too far and a stand must be taken. Murray said that Scottish football was a laughing stock.
How right he is!

On a personal note I was also disgusted by the 'banter' of Rangers fans who's 'famine' taunts each time Noel Hunt touched the ball yesterday went beyond the pale. How the ROI 'B' international from Waterford can be singled out because of his nationality is blatant racism.

Same old Rangers it would seem.

How about it SFA, a fine - or will United have to take it to EUFA / FIFA to expose this one?

Oh and Christian Dailly, you father Dan, would be ashamed of you playing for that mob. He brought you up as a United man, and you also stated you would never play for another Scottish team.

Well, in a way, I suppose Rangers can be seen in that light.

Come on Zenit!
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James,

Dundee 11/05/2008 07:35:26
Ah Wiki have removed the edits it and put a 'protection' on his entry - the work of a 'god fearing' censor no doubt!!
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James,

Dundee 11/05/2008 07:36:59
BTO - I fancy that your teeth went long long ago - too much Icing.
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R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopping !!! 11/05/2008 07:40:35
Its The Corruption Is Successful final scandal all over again.
Isn`t it.

Rangers never "won" that Cup.
The whole of Scotland knows that corruption won the day a few short weeks ago,and corruption won the day again yesterday.

The common denominator in both these scandals is Rangers and their "football" club.

Dundee United were the direct losers yesterday,certainly.
But Scottish Football as a whole,excluding Rangers of course,are the losers and it is minging.
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jamboboetjie,

11/05/2008 07:55:03
NB-
HEARTS fans didn't feel cushtie yesterday when Rodders ringer Roman Romanov insisted referees "screwed" games to help the Old Firm

Ring any bells?
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Media 1,

cpe town 11/05/2008 07:57:44
Levein is furious because he has failed to finish high enough for European football.
Novo scored two excellent goals, and that is why Dundee United lost.
I dont remember Levein going berserk when the referee failed to give Rangers a penalty in the CIS cup final, and it WAS a penalty. He should have been out there demonstrating on behalf of the game itself, but he wasnt.
And here is another thing; give Levein the chance to manage Rangers next season and he grabs it with both hands. When Dundee United visit for their first game and he gets a penalty he should'nt have got, he says "Its football, sometimes you get the decisions sometimes you dont" OR he uses the famous line " I didnt see it, I will need to look at it on video"
It is time for people in football to grow up and stop moaning.
Rangers won because they were better on the day, that is the bottom line.
What will the hobo's excuse be today when Celtic hump them? I wait in anticipation for the lesser Hibees to pretend that football owes them something. Dundee United should be ashamed of their gaffer, he failed over 37 games to get them European football, not one game at Ibrox.
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uncle bulgaria,

11/05/2008 08:06:26

McCurry has long been considered a cheat in the opinion of many at Easter road.

Wonder if Murray will now announce to the world that the whole world is laughing at us.

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Publilius Syrus,

F.A.R.C.E. FansAgainstRuinsCensureEnigmas !!! 11/05/2008 08:10:51
The integrity of Scottish Football was lost yesterday.

Scottish Football was deliberately humiliated and disgraced.

Craig Levein very eloquently delivered his blockbusting speech to a still shocked press scrummage.

YOUR SPEECH IS IMMORTAL NOW CRAIG LEVEIN.

Scottish Football will never forget your speech,nor the heartfelt manner in which you delivered it.
Right is on your side Craig, right and common decency, and you certainly have the b@lls so obviously missing from The Very Reverend The Mike McCurry.


Indeed Scottish Society will never forget your oh so accurate accusations directed against the organisers of Scottish football.

What happened at the alter of Rangers F.C. yesterday will reverberate far far beyond the Ibrox cesspit.

This will be taken up by Scotlands Parliament in Edinburgh.
Scotlands Football is too big an influence in Scottish Society for what happened yesterday only to be allowed to stay within the confines of the colluding SFA/SPL/SFL.

THAT MUST NOT BE PERMITTED TO HAPPEN.


Corruption in Scotlands Football, as displayed yesterday at Ibrox and exclusively to the benefit of Rangers and their "football" club must be exposed for what it is and discussed in the higher echelons of Scotlands power-brokers.

The staus quo will not do.

Scottish Society,let alone our Footballing heritage deserves and demands better.
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2117,

BURG 11/05/2008 08:14:49
Mon St Peters
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Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 11/05/2008 08:16:53
The shame of Scotland! Game run by Masons and Bigots. Dundee United needn't have bothered to turn up, the game was already won.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 08:24:10
Despite Rangers actually getting the sway with the ref for a change yesterday ! The question still remains ... can Celtic win a game without the officials help ? What will it be today ... a penalty an offside goal allowed or maybe a Hibee ordered off ... watch this space ! Then await the silence !
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Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 11/05/2008 08:25:54
Never mind Celtic, bigot it is your shower at the evil empire that should be taken to task.
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manxhibby,

11/05/2008 08:27:48
This is all a little tiresome. There is no mason/catholic conspiracy in scottish football much as the two sectarian sisters and their knuckle dragging bigot supporters would like to believe it. There is however a load of money swilling around both clubs and if our OF supporters actually stepped into the shoes of those supporters whose clubs continually try to batter at the door of the top two places they would perhaps get a better perspecive on things. The only conspiracy is to keep money coming to money. Been a while since we've had a penalty at Greyskull or Darkheid.

This is however very scary ground because you begin to find yourself agreeing with Vladimir Romanov!!
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 08:29:16
"The integrity of Scottish Football was lost yesterday.

Scottish Football was deliberately humiliated and disgraced.

Craig Levein very eloquently delivered his blockbusting speech to a still shocked press scrummage.

YOUR SPEECH IS IMMORTAL NOW CRAIG LEVEIN.

Scottish Football will never forget your speech,nor the heartfelt manner in which you delivered it.
Right is on your side Craig, right and common decency, and you certainly have the b@lls so obviously missing from The Very Reverend The Mike McCurry.


Indeed Scottish Society will never forget your oh so accurate accusations directed against the organisers of Scottish football.

What happened at the alter of Rangers F.C. yesterday will reverberate far far beyond the Ibrox cesspit.

This will be taken up by Scotlands Parliament in Edinburgh.
Scotlands Football is too big an influence in Scottish Society for what happened yesterday only to be allowed to stay within the confines of the colluding SFA/SPL/SFL.

THAT MUST NOT BE PERMITTED TO HAPPEN.


Corruption in Scotlands Football, as displayed yesterday at Ibrox and exclusively to the benefit of Rangers and their "football" club must be exposed for what it is and discussed in the higher echelons of Scotlands power-brokers.

The staus quo will not do.

Scottish Society,let alone our Footballing heritage deserves and demands better.@

399, that was a great post, you should get a job as a... well, you should just get a job.
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paulmac,

surrey 11/05/2008 08:33:38
Ok....question...

Will Mike (ex-Ibrox season ticket holder) McCurry be expected to explain his decisions in the same way Mr Brines had to do?

You can just imagine McCurry explaning these decisions away....

1. What about the penalty decision Mr. McCurry...ermmm..I was tying my laces at the time...

2. Did you ask yer assistant after the game what he saw?....he was tying his laces...

3. What about the goal disallowed....Ermmm...I was tying my laces...

4. What about your assistant on the goal...when I went and spoke to him...he said he was tying his laces...

5. Kirk broadfoot deliberatly and violently elbowing a Utd player...Ermmm....never seen anything...I was too busy tying my laces...

6. Christian Daily taking a dive.....Ermmmm I saw that...I did see that...but to be honest...as a minister how can I book a player with the name Christian?

7. Daniel (forehead) Koooooosan's head butt.....Ermmmm...I was talking to Barry and confirming that I was still on for a lift home on the team bus....

So there we have all straight forward.
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2117,

CHOIR STALLS SAN SIRO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS 11/05/2008 08:36:35
When will Murray publish his report on his official party making Scotland a laughing stock in Milan? When will Smith invite Murray to explain his recent laughing stock comments about Rearrangers FC fixtures?If Murray is honest he will realise if anyone cares that Scotland is an even bigger laughing stock now.Well done for your forensic picking of the scab Craig. It is not nice under there.
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 08:36:41
What happened yesterday in the name of Rangers F.C. and to the exclusive benefit of that club is worse than a drugs cheat in the Olympics.

Let me explain.

At the end of the 100 meters you have the judge ,right.
He has the power and access to the replays of the race,right.

Every time Dundee United were about to sprint into the lead,the judge stopped the race,rearranged the participants so that Rangers remained in front,then allowed the race to continue.

The point being,the corruption starts at the top then filters its way done to those who are chosen to receive the benefits of their cheating hand.

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arRanger,

11/05/2008 08:38:04
Never mind ye offended, just get the spl to get Rangers to play their first 5 games of next season within the next fortnight- just to avoid the possibility of fixture congestion happening next season. Wouldn't want the sporting integrity compromised and that.
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paulmac,

surrey 11/05/2008 08:38:14
..............News just in................

A smiling Mike McCurry was givin a rousing cheer by the congregation as he entered the pull pit this morning!

Afterwards....McCurry was asked how he felt on his reception.....What reception I was tying my laces!
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 08:41:56
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The "Pull pit"? Sounds like a seedy nightclub. Not a religious man yourself then?
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2117,

Mea culpa mea maxima culpa 11/05/2008 08:42:26
Make a good act of contrition on didnaeblowmawhistle.com Reverend and we will forgive.
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 08:44:59
"- stonewall penalty refused
- David Weir should have been red carded
- Kirk Broadfoot should have been red carded - assault
- Danny Cousin should have been red carded - assault
- perfectly good DU goal disallowed"

If Weir had got sent off, the goal would have been chalked off for offside, unless he was able to deflect it from the showers.
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It's me!,

11/05/2008 08:48:50
#406. Vladimir Romanov is correct. That is why the west coast media have gone out of their way to humilate him with monkey jibes etc. It took an outsider to have the guts to stand up and tell the truth in much the same way as Craig Levein is doing now. I hope Craig stands up to any punishment he is given now for being outspoken by going to law in the same way as he did when referee Dougie Macdonald blatantly made bad decisions in a Kilmarnock game. Hearts didn't win about thirteen subsequent consecutive games refereed by Macdonald after that each with controversial decisions. Hence VR's comments. It's a pity the SPL changed their minds and did not have Rangers and Celtic in a new SPL. Football would be much fairer and a better spectacle. If Rangers do win the league it will be a hollow victory. Not worth a fig in fact.
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 08:48:57
424:
Strange question on a written form.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 08:51:16
Actually if you compare the 'foul' that McURRY awarded which lead to Rangers' first goal WITH the foul Weir committed for the 'penalty' which McURRY turned down, you realise that you are dealing with a bigot.

But Celtic fans have been insisting for months that Basket-Ball-Bazza McURRY is simply a bigot who should have had his license withdrawn long, long ago.

If Rangers win the league by two points this year, it will be another immoral victory to add to their extensive collection.
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 08:53:35
#412


Rearrangers F.C.

Thats a cracker....BAWH...hawh...nawh..hanhanhanhanhahaha...

Rearrangers F.C....AN ABSOLUTE CLASSIC...hanhanhan...hahahaha...you can just imagine the pow wow at the SFA...excuse me Sir Wantaway but we heard through the laptopmeejaroyalz that you would like to Rearrange Rangers entire season next year...well then,thats fine by us..

BAWH hawh....nawh Rearrangers F.C. this....Rearrangers F.C. that....Rearrangers F.C. this....Rearrangers F.C. that...

WAWH...haw hahahahaha.....KAK...KAK...KAK...



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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 08:54:05
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In the post match press conference, one of the laptopmeejaloyalists attempted to draw Levein into a general rant against the 'old firm', but Levein was quick to nail that one.

He said he was talking about Rangers, no other club.
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 08:54:30
427:
Well, something is your problem. If Weir had been sent off at the penalty, he wouldn't have been around to deflect the shot for the goal, would he?
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Stan,

Sydney 11/05/2008 08:55:19
If Levein is fined for his comments it will be as scandalous as those two decisions. As a Rangers fan I believe if McCurry had made them at the other end he would still be locked in Ibrox for his own safety. If the Arabs produce a similar second-half performance on Thursday week it's Celtic who will be wasting their time turning up. There's no way they'll get three points at Tannadice.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 08:56:39
Dundee United: Robbed in the CIS and robbed yesterday...the common denominator ?

Rangers.
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paulmac,

surrey 11/05/2008 08:57:58
#423

Ermmmm.....the penalty decision and Weir being sent off had nothing to do with offside?

Are you Mike McCurry?
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 08:59:33
436:
Stick in son, you've grasped the concept of reading, just the comprehension to go and you'll be ready to start posting in a one on one debate.
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Publilius Syrus,

S.W.A.L.L.Y. SirWantawayAbsenteeLandLord?Yes !!! 11/05/2008 09:03:51
Rearrangers Football Club are trying to get the Zenit game moved back a day.

Sir Wantaway says its like a compulsive obsessive disorder that Ragz have gotten themselves into and he is finding it difficult to change now so late in the season.

Murray has apologised to all fans of Rearrangers F.C but insists that they will not lose out financially with their now out of date tickets.

As has been happening all season he will buy up all Ragz away game tickets in Europe and distribute them free.

But only those Rearragers fans he considers worthy will be considered.

Very nice of him.
Isn`t it.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 09:05:57
Rangers fans know that McURRY got them out of jail yesterday, on more than one occassion, and not for the first time this season.

But those rats at the sfa will round on Levein for speaking out the truth.

I think there should be a campaign of support for Levein. A petition should be drawn up indicating that the undersigned believe 100% that Levein's comments concerning McURRY are the truth.

Every Dundee U fan and every Celtic fan would sign it.
But McURRY's bias was soooo obvious, I reckon almost every non-rangers football fan in Scotland would sign it.

That would take the number of signatories well into 6 figures. That would give the bluenoses at the sfa something to ponder before they start their sanctimonious rant agains Levein.
It would make the sfa realise how isolated from public opinion that they are in this matter.
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 09:06:29
437:

Oh I get it- you're a double act with simple minded. I thought we were analysing parallel universes where the world was just and Weir got sent off after the penalty? Do we then switch to another parallel Universe which is also just, so he is still on the pitch twenty minutes later to deflect the ball into his own net? Life's a bitch, eh.
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frhugh,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 09:09:25
Officials at games will always get marginal decisions wrong - they are human. TV evidence should be made available to them, where possible, via the fourth official for contentious decisions.
Also, any player, in any game whatsoever, who is seen to strike another player off the ball, but is caught on TV, should have the appropriate card issued, post match. This happened years ago to John Robertson of Hearts after striking Tommy Burns.
After yesterday, the football authorities must be seen to do something to introduce technology to help the officials.
However, what we all witnessed yesterday was not marginal at all.
The Ref should publicly apologise for his mistakes, that's if they were mistakes, and not choices!
If they were choices, he should never referee another game, period.
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2117,

Moral High Ground 11/05/2008 09:09:41
Open your heart to the Holy Spirit on Pentecost Sunday Reverend and repent.
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R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopping !!! 11/05/2008 09:10:03
Rearrangers Football Club are now a laughing stock in Scottish Society.

CRAIG LEVEIN AND DUNDEE UNITED TAKE A BOW.

Scottish Football,excluding Rearrangers F.C. of course,salute you.

You deserve it.
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 09:12:00
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Reading good, copying and pasting good. Still need to work on the old comprehension though.
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paulmac,

surrey 11/05/2008 09:14:48
"We were as well not turning up...we could not win that game...no matter how well we would have played today"

"the sooner we get referees from another country coming the better"

"McCurry didn't give any decisions today...he knew the importance of the game for Rangers today...it was important he didn't give a penalty against Rangers...it was important he didn't send Weir off...it was important he didn't let Dundee Utd back into the game today...it was all about Rangers...it was a disgrace"

Craig Levein...Sat 10th of May
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Yirman,

11/05/2008 09:17:24
McCurry is an absolute disgrace and should never be allowed anywhere near a Rangers game ever again. I can't be bothered reading the attempts by Rangers fans on this thread to divert attention away from the injustices put on Dundee United by McCurry.

No matter what "lucky" breaks other teams get at times from "poor" refereeing decisions, nothing can compare with the obvious bias of McCurry towards Rangers. He should be ashamed of himself and in his faith, no church anywhere would support such blatant favouritism towards Rangers.

To the decent Rangers fans who acknowledge the unfairness of McCurry's decisions, enjoy your day in Manchester, but like most true Scottish football fans that believe in fairness, there are few who hope you succeed, the majority hope Rangers get humped in Manchester.
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Publilius Syrus,

F.A.R.C.E. FansAgainstRuinsCensureEnigmas !!! 11/05/2008 09:17:26
See when you think of it who will The Very Reverend confess his sins to.

Anyway when you confess you have to be sincere that you will not deliberately do the same act and sin again.

But as we can see from the Corruption Is Successful final,and in Basket-Balls-Semi before that,The Very Reverend The Mike McCurry has no intention of changing his corrupt practises.
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arRanger,

11/05/2008 09:18:05
454:
I have enjoyed our wee chat. Must do it again sometime soon. Anyway, breakfast time for me, a nice hearty nosh up and a sit down with the papers. Need to look out me stuff for Manchester on Wednesday. You have a nice day- enjoy the hibs game, a hope there aren't any dodgy refereeing decisions to ruin your day, that would be just too cruel...
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Publilius Syrus,

F.A.R.C.E. FansAgainstRuinsCensureEnigmas !!! 11/05/2008 09:27:30
Lets not miss Gordon Smiths SFA here !

The SFA are as guilty of this corruption as is The Very Reverend.

The SFA knew McCurry had previous form entirely favouring Rearrangers F.C.

We must not miss Gordon Smith and his SFA when we take aim at The Very Reverend The Mike.

Each is as guilty and as culpable on the injustices served on Dundee United yesterday.


THE SFA MUST NOT BE ALLOWED TO WRIGGLE FREE FROM THEIR GUILT.
THEY MUST BE PUNISHED TOO.
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jumpship,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 09:32:55
Celtic_minded_,


You just don't get it do you . The non old firm clubs are saying Rangers AND Celtic benefit from referee's unfairly. They will continue to do so as long as the old firm loving Media stick up for them at every turn . The SFA is being run by people who are connected to the old firm .

Very simple put - Old firm = SFA = referee's
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Aberdeen Loon,

USA 11/05/2008 09:33:03
Ah... Mr. McCurry, the man of fairness to all the provincial teams... not a chance. Craig Levein is 100% correct. The Old Firm gets crucial calls almost every single time.

This is the same referee who bottled it at Pittodrie in season 2000/01 when after 5 minutes Barry Ferguson hauled down Arild Stavrum just inside the box when Arild was one-on-one with the keeper. McCurry bottled it because he knew if he gave the penalty that Ferguson was off.

Later in the game the infamous Ricksen 'karate kick' on Darren Young was perpetrated no more than 15 yards from the ref who had an uninterrupted view of the attack. He waved play on! This attack was so blatant that the SFA used video evidence for the first time ever, and found him guilty. Ricksen even owned up to the attack on his personal website.

McCurry still reffing at SPL level is simply a joke. Let's open up our reffing to English refs who won't bottle it like McCurry because his Old Firm neighbours will dish out abuse.
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NZGrantBear,

11/05/2008 09:34:11
#461

I love it!, but truthfully are you a Rangers fan on the wind up?
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 09:36:43
And yes,all those outside Rearrangers F.C. should form some sort of petition.

Organise a march,make known the feelings of the ordinary Scottish Football supporter towards these corrupt practises that are being encouraged in our game.

Petition the Scottish government in Edinburgh.

Scottish Society would give that sort of protest its full backing.
Of that I am ceratin.

Corruptions and cheats that benefit Rearrangers F.C. must be called to book.
Enough is enough.

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Patrick 162,

11/05/2008 09:39:21
26 points have unfairly been given Celtic's way over the course of the season, yet now we have conspiracy theories because Utd didn't get a soft penalty and the referee, unlike many "commentors" actually interferes with play.

Hunt miscontrols the ball then goes down easily, in the same manner as Kevin Thomson by flicking a leg out. Somehow, the bigoted minds of the Celtic fans think that Thomson should have been red-carded for a dive, yet Hunt should have had a penalty. You guys really do set new standards in hypocrisy.

As for the supposed disallowed goal, the Utd player approaches Weir with the ball near him, forcing him to play it and also raises a foot, in an attempt to either kick or step over the ball. Either way, it's interfering with play.

De Vries, Hunt, Flood and Wilkie could all have walked but Levein only sees Cousin, who probably did deserve to go, and Broadfoot for a "punch" which only Levein saw, or more accurately imagined.

Levein has let himself down and came across like a Harry Enfield character such as Kevin or Perry. "It's so unfair!"

We expect this childishness from Celtic fans, their eccentrically loopy manager, war criminal chairman and sleazy cheif executive. I never thought Levein would stoop so low, but he should rightly be hammered for a blatant accusation of cheating, after losing control in an match.
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 09:40:43
#465

You luv it you say.
Then you are a liar.

Rearrangers F.C. are being ridiculed right across Scotland and you claim you luvv it.

Younarrapeepelinnat right enough.

No shame have you.
Even in your humiliation.
Even in your clubs humiliation.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 09:42:04
What about the real contentious decision against Aberdeen ! Ball over the line for goal that`s not given and not even a mention ! That`s because the the Celtic minded in the media can`t take it and want tae stoke the fires of injustice ! Got tae laugh really as they have been getting help from the officials since Rangers moved top and not a word mentioned ! Come on the Hibee`s !
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 09:43:15
Rearrangers F.C took the points yesterday but they lost what dignity they had left.

The Very Reverend The Mike seen to that.
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Patrick 162,

11/05/2008 09:44:38
#469

Yes. The last Old Firm match where Vennegoor remained on the pitch after an intentional throat high karate kick, McDonald's offside goal stands, Hartley, McGeady and Naylor lucky to remain on the pitch, all topped of with a penalty that was a foul to Rangers after a stamp and trip by McDonald followed by Whittaker going off for what Hartley, McGayday and Naylor remained on the pitch.

You can add in the game at Falkirk, where Falkirk should have had three penalties, McManus should have been sent off for breaking a player's leg, Falkirk having a good goal disallowed and McDonald's offside "goal" standing.

Also, O'Neil wouldn['t have won one title without referee help in his first Old Firm game.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 09:44:47
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Your inferiority complex is in melt down and you are even chucking the bigot word around without just cause ... Go lie down Bhoy !
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 09:45:59
Alex McLeish is on the cusp of relegating Birmingham.

But he`d rather be there than still involved in the shame and disgust that encapsulates Rearrangers F.C.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 09:47:16
Levein endorsed a view held by Celtic fans for generations...bring in foreign referees for scottish football.

The trouble is, get rid of Andy Davis or Mike McURRY, for example, and another two will come in to take their place.

The pro-Rangers bias is engrained into Scottish football, always has been, and is incurable.

We just have to accept that the likes of McURRY and Davis will always be prepared to come along and give Rangers a leg up, in the knowledge that they will be protected by the sfa.
As Levein rightly said, if McURRY had made those decisions yesterday against Rangers, he would never referee another spl match.

So, as I suggested above, a petition supporting Levein should be organised , and the petition should call upon the sfa to engage the services of foreign referees. Ideally, muslim or jewish.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 09:48:10
Can't be bothered reading all the whining on here, but why is it that when Aberdeen get a perfectly good goal chalked off against celtic; celtic get an offside goal to stand in the OF match and when celtic score from a corner that never was, there is no great conspiracy theory, but when a couple of decisions go Rangers way, it's the greatest conspiracy in the world? All of those dodgy decisions that went the way of celtic would have cost them the championship, so let's not have Idee Fixe, etc asking us to name one match where celtic got a decision in their favour which affected the outcome of a match.
I for one hope the SPL bring in foreign refs so that, when the Mighty Glasgow Rangers make a clean sweep of things next season, the tic hordes will have to dream up some other excuse. Of course, it will emerge that those nasty Greek Orthodox referees are all in on the conspiracy.....and, as for those pesky Austrians...
To all celtic fans out there: you are an utterly, utterly, pathetic bunch of whining tòssers.
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Patrick 162,

11/05/2008 09:48:51
#476 Any post which mentions the referee's religion as somehow relevant to his performance is an instance of blatant sectarian bigotry, just as you'd expect from a Celtic fan.

#472 Grow up and don't be such a bigot. If you're so intolerant of other people's views, then don't post on public forums.

Keep your bigotry for keepthefaith, kerrydalestreet, the muddleboard and its other usual venues.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 09:49:52
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Aberdeen scored again yesterday and it was given as a goalkeepers save although it was over the line ... you self obsessed muppet ! Point proven in post in 473 as you didn`t even know ! Go lie down bhoy !
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 09:50:19
Even in relegation threatened Birmingham,Alex McLeish breaths fresher air than he did when at The S.W.A.M.P.

He would never swop back.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 09:51:45
483. Brother. Didn't you know all the worlds's Muslims and Jews are in on it too, mate?
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Patrick 162,

11/05/2008 09:52:19
In a season in TWENTY SIX POINT UNFAIRLY GO CELTIC'S WAY, Celtic fans are still clinging to the old bigoted conspiracies about officialdom against them. It really does beggar belief.

They should have been out of this league 10 games ago but luck and refereeing decisions have kept them in it.

Nonetheless, it's an indication of how the fear their trophyless season and the very realistic possibility of a Rangers quadruple.

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Magnet,

11/05/2008 09:53:16
Tick ! tock ! Tick ! tock Tick ! tock !
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Cathcart Boy,

London 11/05/2008 09:54:19
For Levein to be 2-0 down early on was what cost him the match. A torrid spell of hammer throwing by his wee tagerine angels went unpunished by yellows - Flood and Hunt main culprits. Hunt's behaviour in the second half also merited at least yellow.
Toys out the pram + having a kick at an easy ref target is no substitute for being smarter than Walter Smith; that's Levein's real problem. Grow up Craig and spare us the drivel about £125K making a real difference to next season's squad.
Cheap sensationalism.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 09:55:16
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The only fans in Scotland who would oppose foreign refs are Rangers fans.

Doesn't that tell you something ?
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Publilius Syrus,

11/05/2008 09:55:33
Have we left any stone unturned in Scottish Footballs corruption and favouratism towards Rearrangers F.C.

Yes we have...so lets continue.

ALL thanks to Craig Levein for this by the way.

Well done Craig.
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jumpship,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 09:56:34
469 Celtic_minded_,

Eh!!!!!!! You're last game .

Referee Iain Brines has admitted he wrongly disallowed the goal which could have finished Celtic's title challenge.

Motherwell manager Mark McGhee hit out at referee Steve Conroy after his decision to award a corner rather than a goal kick led to Celtic's winner.

I could just look at every team you have played and give you thier respone to the game but i can't be botherd.


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Magnet,

11/05/2008 09:56:36
493 Pax
You are still a self obsessed muppet with a huge inferiority complex ! Go lie down bhoy !
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 09:57:03
496. Sh/te. See post 484.
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Loki,

Valhalla 11/05/2008 09:57:28
Latest News Flash: Manager who's team loses complains about Referee.

Outbreak of Greeting Face Disease - seems to be related to wearing green.
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Cathcart Boy,

London 11/05/2008 09:58:21
Cheating's never ok, any more Celtic v Aberdeen, Motherwell v Celtic or elsewhere. Levein's season rested on more than one decision; Rangers did the business early and scored late to clinch it. Levein's the cheat here!
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 09:59:17
Once again , a massive thankyou to Craig Levein for having the courage to come out and speak truthfully about the corruption within Scottish football , how it helps Rangers win football matches.
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Bikefast,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 09:59:20
Re #41.
You have hit the nail right on the head here. We are not now just dealing with a sport but with a professional entertainment industry where players' and managers' livelihoods are very much affected by the results of football matches. Why do the powers in charge insist in retaining the archaic methods of supervising at matches when so much money is at stake as opposed to when the the rules were put in place these many many years ago. However having said that, the assistant referee at Ibrox yesterday seemed to "help" by insisting that offside was the decision at DU's 'goal' but what I don't understand is why the same assistant referee was not involved in the 'penalty' incident as he must have had a better view of it--from side on -- as opposed to McCurry's from behind the incident.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:01:27
If this came from a Celtic manager, the laptops would be getting into a lather ...but the fact that it has come from a non-Celtic minded person, someone who commands a great deal of respect in the game, has got them all hot and bothered.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:01:57
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You forgot tae mention the Of games with McDonald not given off side for his goal and a penalty awarded outside the box. Tough living in the persecuted Celtic mindset ! It only works one way apparently !
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:03:14
As Toni the tiger says....GRRRRRRREAT !
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 10:03:19
I would just like to extend a massive thank you to Mark McGhee for having the strength and courage to speak the truth about the shocking refereeing of the recent Motherwell - Celtic game. I think we should start a petition
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:04:05
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:04:17
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:04:30
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:04:45
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Do you think the two Jimmy`s would sign it ?
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:04:45
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:05:02
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:05:17
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:05:42
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:05:49
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:05:54
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Arab,

Dundee 11/05/2008 10:06:33
I think it is now about time that only full time refs take charge of games within the SPL, yesterdays farce by a part time ref was degrading to Scottish football,he should go back to kids football. Yes i am a United man and irate but i have no intention to attack Rangers they dont make the decisions,when Weir deflected the ball into his own net he sunk is head in disbelief,he knew it was a goal. The other incidents you can talk all day about them and what should have happened but the bottom line is the refs make far too many mistakes and are ruining our game.Oh and one other thing,go to Mike McCurry at wikpedia, his profession, Minister of the Christian Faith.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:07:32
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Yes a petition about a corner kick...such injustice...puts mcurry's farce yesterday in perspective.

But then McGee didn't attack the referee's integrity..he accepted it was a mistake.

Step forward Craig Levein...he takes one big huge dump on McURRY's integrity, and long,long, overdue it is.
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Van Stealer,

Offshore 11/05/2008 10:08:20
#154 asked for a joke.
try this one.

A man's cupping his hand to scoop water from a Highland burn.
Gamekeeper shouts, 'Dinnae drink thon water min, it's foo o' coo's sh*te n pi**.'
Man replies, 'My good fellow, I'm English ....repeat that in English.'

Gamekeeper replies, 'I said use both hands - you get more that way.'
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Patrick 162,

11/05/2008 10:08:28
This thread shows how extremely bigoted the Celtic fans are. How they can suggest an anti-Celtic conspiracy in a season where the SPL have unfairly scheduled 4 matches in one week to ONLY ONE TEAM, and referees have assisted Celtic more than any single Celtic player.

I suppose it's not a surprise, given that Brother Walfrid and the terrorist, Pat Welsh, started the club to promote sectarian divide, excluding non-Catholics from the start.

I bet we get the 1995 PR mission statement of "inclusion" posted as if Walfrid and Welsh wrote it.
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GersFanOfFitba,

11/05/2008 10:08:39
Hang on a minute here, bhoys. You seem to be forgetting some facts:

1. United were TWO NIL down at that point. Even if they'd had that goal allowed, they'd still have been well out of it.
2. Celtic have been fortunate enough to get some key decisions in the last while, particularly in the last couple of old firm games, but also against motherwell. You don't see us calling the ref a cheat, do you?

So. Deal with it. Sometimes you get decisions, sometimes you don't. The only other time that, apparently, McCurry showed "Bias" was another old firm game where at least TWO celtic players should have walked.

Finally, Walfrid and co. Hang your head in shame. Accusing BE, on of the most sane and honest posters on here, of a lack of integrity is shameful to say the least.

You're making a mockery of your club's support. Get Real.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:10:45
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Hang on a minute...Rangers would have been down to 8 men...Weir, Broadfoot and Cousin.
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manxhibby,

11/05/2008 10:12:54
I'm sorry but you OF posters really need to get real. This catholic/protestant thing has no place in the real world and certainly no place in football. Celtic AND Rangers get more than their fair share of decisions because they have the biggest supports and most money -end of.

Shame that thats the way it works but as in life so in sport.
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FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 11/05/2008 10:13:41
I find it very interesting that over the season the number of decisions that have went celtics way has passed the celtics fans sense of indignation with little comment. No outcry, just an acceptance of 'some go for you, some go against you' yet here we are again with a referee giving decisions which favour Rangers and theres an outcry from the self same, downtrodden, celtic fans.
No sense of balance now.
I listened, last night, to a radio phone in and yes once again they were on castigating the referee, where were they when all the decisions were going celtics way?
The usual crew are on here today, no surprise there, and all the paranoia comes to the surface.
If the truth be told the standard of refereeing recently, not discounting the other officials, has been a joke.
Anyway, have a nice day and moan away.......
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:14:09
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Utd would have been down tae 6 ! Go lie down bhoy !
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Patrick 162,

11/05/2008 10:15:23
#527, whilst your points make some sense, your status as Manx means your views should be ignored.

Only joking. Lived and worked there for 6 months. It's the worst place I've been, with about two decent pubs and three attractive women on the whole island.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:16:32
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Are you a rangers fan trying to generalise the debate ?

That's what the laptops have been up to over the last 24 hours.

For your information, Levein challenged the attempts to generalise this matter...he specifically made it clear that this is about Rangers, and spoke in scolding tones for one little laptop rodent who tried to draw him into a generalised 'old firm' debate.
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manxhibby,

11/05/2008 10:17:05
and I'm married to one of them - she told me to say. and wheres the other decent pub?
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manxhibby,

11/05/2008 10:18:14
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Hmm am I a rangers fan? maybe the name will give a clue
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:20:01
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Rewind the game and start from the beginning. Hunt escapes a booking in the 1st minute for a bad tackle on Broadfoot and in the second minute Rangers get wrongly pulled back for off side. Conspiracy ... you cry ! Didn`t think so !
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Jambo 7,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 10:20:43
How about Rangers and Celtic playing themselves 38 times each season.

May just as well because no other team will be allowed to win the important games when playing that lot.

Although Vlad and his wee idiot son are bampots, as outsiders they can at least see right through the SPL. Levein, McGee et al are absolutely right on how it is all set up up for Rangers and Celtic.

I expect today's Celtic vs Hibs game the referee will have been instructed to bend over backwards for Hibs to throw us off the scent that the SPL is corrupt.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:20:56
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When ?
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Patrick 162,

11/05/2008 10:21:05
#532 Actually, it was just the other part of the same pub. :)
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:21:12
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Is it compulsory to believe you ?

Ahhh...you must be mike mcurry.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:24:43
Tick ! tock ! Tick tock ! Tick tock ! Can you here the Celtic minded bottles crashin ?
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manxhibby,

11/05/2008 10:24:59
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Now that WOULD throw us off the scent! - but I sense another 1000 comments from outraged and paranoid celtic and rangers supporters would follow on monday
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:26:21
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Hibs aren't playing Rangers today.
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FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 11/05/2008 10:29:30
#531
Of course I'm a Rangers fan and whatever craig levine is trying to suggest is wrong. You can't isolate decisions that favour one club to the exclusion of other favourable decisions for another club. If you are in denial of the decisions that have gone celtics way recently, then fine that is up to you. In my opinion Rangers were let off yesterday in the penalty decision and I will have to see the offside decision on tv to decide but there have been numerous times this season when decisions have gone aginst us. You have to be big enough to get on with things. You can complain about decisions but in a dignified way. Unfortunately celtic, their supporters and all others associated with the club show, and have shown, through the years a complete sence of paranoia, social injustice, call it what you like. Lets all move into the 21st century.
Have a nice day......
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JT,

11/05/2008 10:29:56
Im glad that Craig has blasted out the way he did, pity the muppets at the SFA will punish him, not the ref. Its not the first time he's been in bother about refs and wont be the last. The problem is that there has always been favourtism to the OF and always will be as they are the biggest. Its the same down in the premiership Man Utd are always claiming the ref is against them but they have never been the angels they claim to be and its the same with the OF. The biggest clubs will always get away with it as the ref dont have the spine to stand up to the cheating and unsportsman behavour. I think the refs in Scotland should declare who there allegiance is towards, having said that there may be a shortage of non OF refs.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:33:00
548

You say you're glad that Craig has blasted out, but you obviously don't wholly agreee with him.

Craig made it specifically clear that his remarks were not to be taken in the context of 'THE OLD FIRM', but purely, soley,uniquely against RANGERS.
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darkbloo,

Dundee 11/05/2008 10:36:46
It is amazing how Gers fans can justify these decisions due to Celtic apparently getting some "decisons" recently too. As a Dundee fan my opinion is the truth of it is that too many refs won't give big decisions against either of the old firm and this has been the case for years. I also question the refs that are picked for games. The SFA will happily send OF supporting Glaswegian referees up to Pittodrie to ref an OF team, but when do you ever see Freeland (from Aberdeen) down at Ibrox or Celtic Park when Aberdeen are playing?
Time to get back to stating where a ref is from and having the referee from a neutral town to the two clubs involved.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:37:53
550
So all Celtic`s game influencing decisions don`t count cos that idiot Levein says it`s Rangers fault ! Don`t know who is the biggest fool you or him !
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WavyDavy,

Edinburgh 11/05/2008 10:39:16
Now if old Craig had still been the Hearts Manager he would get no support from anyone but it seems a bit different now. I wonder why Hearts are tagged as being paranoid.
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McMillar,

Fife 11/05/2008 10:41:09
Levein is much more articulate than your average manager/official. That presents a bit more of a challenge for then as he is clearly capable of articulating the issues and presenting a logical argument. He has stirred things up but what will come of it? Probably nothing - most would agree. The other teams are too fragmented or hot headed. It was a joke of a game and ref is either biased/rewarded or incompetent. Biggest loser is Scottish football again as we spend ‘forever’ talking about the mistakes and not the game. The sooner we have better use of technology and rugby style decision making the better. However….good luck to rangers and I do hope you get all 4.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 11/05/2008 10:42:36
good morning just a quick input..well done the sos for keeping the thread running..i forgot last night about hearts suggesting there is corruption..but hey look at the equal way mikolonaus dive and kevin thomsons were treated..we now have a manager in the league saying referees cheat to help rangers..investigation please..perhaps gordon smith..(the man who got a job he was not qualified for) could look at corruption !!!
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Calum Crubag,

Dùn Eideann 11/05/2008 10:46:54
Well said Levein. Both Celtic and Rangers get far too many dodgy decisions. Yesterdays incindents were beyond belief.

If Scots' refs are far to cowed to take important decisions like those then the SFA needs to get shot of them. McCurry is a disgrace and it's no wonder FIFA don't want Scots' refs at the world cup anymore.
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 10:47:33
#550

Thank you so much for your reminder that Levein tried to make it just a Rangers thing rather than an OF thing.

Can you now explain Noel Hunts comments in todays paper ie

"It's Rangers' and Celtic's league, isn't it? We're sick of being hard done by. We're raging, every one of us."

Does he disagree with Levein?
Is he maybe a secret orangeman?
Did he have no complaints with the ref after all?

Or is it maybe that horrible scenario you seem so determined to avoid that both part of the OF tend to get decisions.( yes I know everyone who says so is obviously a rangers fan in disguise) But that would mean you have sat up all night repeating the same nonsense for nothing, wouldnt it.


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Magnet,

11/05/2008 10:51:11
Was it a pen ? Maybe if given a bit soft !
Was it offside ? Technically yes ! Although I think the linesman thought the Utd player touched it rather than Weir ! What`s all the fuss about ! Aberdeen scored a good goal and the ref played on ! Now that is the worst decision of yesterday`s SPL ! So why are we scrutinising these other two decisions ? Sour grapes !
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 10:54:28
560

I know it's hard for you to stomach...but Levein was quick to stamp on the attempts to generalise.

Don't shoot the messenger...I'm just pointing out that Levein specifically pointed out that his remarks were NOT to be taken generally against the 'OLD FIRM' , but purely, soley , uniquely against 'RANGERS'.

And he castigated the little laptopmeejaloyalist rodent who tried to steer him down that path.
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The Undeniable Truth,

11/05/2008 10:55:19
Having watched the entire game again, I think Craig Levein will and should be embarrassed by his comments, and expect him to be man enough to apologise for his outrageous and unjustified comments.
On reflection, his comments were libellous and enough to endanger the referee from the "Moronic element of yahoo" who have threatened and attacked referees at their home in the past, even the Belgian referee received death threats fro these morons after refereeing a previous celtic European encounter

I accept that his frustration is bourne from losing the CIS cup final. however it was churlish and infantile in the extreme, I am sure Walter Smith could have said, his team needn’t have turned up for the last two old firm games and with at best "poor refereeing decisions" ensuring celtic stayed in the title race, aka offside goals, playes assaulting never mind receiving w rightful red card.

Proof of the pudding is that we haven’t heard many yahoos complaining about referees for their games over the past months.

I fear that Mr Levein will be sued, and rightfully so, where the onus is on him to prove that this referee cheated. rememeber this referee has refereed many Rangers v celtic games over the past years where Rangers have lost..so its almost impossible to prove.

A very stupid act by a manager disappointed that his team didn’t get the European place...unfortunately, "The Yahoo Morons" will believe him.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:01:44
563. Well said (and written in English too). Never mind Craig Levein, I should imagine Mike McCurry is raging at the moment. I hope he does sue.
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Richardinho,

11/05/2008 11:01:49
#563 Absolutely stunning hypocrisy. Rangers behaviour in recent months has been disgraceful ; Walter Smith's attempted assault on the Hibernian manager, his accusing Peter Lawell of being a liar, David Murray's petulance towards the SPL over the fixture congestion. All these have contributed to a 'poisoning of the water', where reactions like Levein's become more likely.

I am glad that our manager has remained aloof from all this pettiness and concentrated on the actual task in hand of playing football.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 11:02:17
The burden of proof will be on Levein.

Various footage of McURRY's numerous outrages favouring Rangers will form the basis of his case.
That will include the infamous basket-ball-bazza incident.

McURRY will then have to go into the witness box and explain all of his numerous outrageous decisions favouring rangers.

If the judge or more likely civil jury have a reasonable doubt regarding McURRY's insistence that they were all, every last one of 'em, mistakes, then Levein's remarks will be upheld as 'fair comment'.

I don't think McURRY will raise a defamation action for the simple fact that he faces a high risk of losing.
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 11:03:10
#562
As I am merely pointing out that his player who suffered the injustice does not necessarily agree.

Will he now castigate Hunt for steering him down that path.

I have no qualms about admitting we got lucky. You on the other hand blindly refuse to acknowledge what every other teams fans see as bias towards your beloved celtic also happens week in week out.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:06:24
566. McCurry will definitely win - 'cause the judge will be a Mason. You're forgetting yourself, Bro!
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Backofthenet,

11/05/2008 11:06:38
The disallowed DU goal is an interesting one. Dundee Utd chairman Eddie Thompson said on Radio Scotland that he and Levein thought at first sight that the ball hit DU's Robertson. Ex-Celt Murdo McLeod said that on first viewing he thought the ball hit Robertson.

As for this "basketball" nonsense, maybe you should look at Hearts. In that semi they handled twice (plus brought down Darcheville) in their box with no penalties being given. The second Hearts handball was just before the Ferguson goal. Or how about Caldwell in the last Old Firm game? Michael Jordan eat your heart out.
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 11:07:47
564
Lucky Sue !
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 11:10:56
#566
And when the defence barrister asks why he ignored a blatant hearts hand ball moments before rather than award a penalty to rangers?

I suggest the answer will be the same for both - there is no offence of handball in football, only deliberate handball.

And when asked why he disallowed a valid rangers goal in the first OF match that may well be very important if goal difference wins the league, what will he say.

I am biased towards rangers but had a moment of madness and forgot I had to favour them.

As you said the onus is on Levein to prove dishonesty rather than incompetence and for every "outrage" you dig up I am sure it will be countered by something showing disfavour to rangers or just bad refereeing.
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 11:12:34
The only way levein could win such a case would be if he was allowed to hand pick the jury from Tannadice or maybe the jungle.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:13:00
570. I hope he realises that it's a Boy Named Sue,
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moon glorious 1874,

herts 11/05/2008 11:13:28
this has been going on for too long in scottish football and needs to be stopped, it is blatant cheating and Levein just said what we all think!
O.F. BIAS AND NO MISTAKE!
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Magnet,

11/05/2008 11:14:01
569
It only works one way mate ! Maybe DU should change their name back tae Dundee Hibernians so that they can join Celtic with their sectarian garbage ! Is it cos I is Tim ?
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The Undeniable Truth,

11/05/2008 11:14:04
If I was the referee I would sue....Levein hasn’t a leg to stand on

Also, did we not see the atrocious tackle on Ferguson in the last 5 minutes, which was a more realistic penalty claim, that the Hunt dive...I always think that a player falling in the penalty box with his first reaction to look round to see if its a penalty, SHOULD NEVER GET IT
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 11:14:27
There are two words that MCURRY's lawyers will say to him : TOMMY SHERIDAN.

At that point, McURRY will sign a cheque for the consultation fee, walk out the office, and reflect that it wouldn't be worth risking his house and his pension.

MCURRY could lose...no lawyer would possibly give him more than a 50/50 chance of winning on the available evidence.

Believe me, McURRY will not sue from fear of losing. He would then have to pay Levein's legal costs, which would be something like half a million, he would be branded a rangers bigot and a cheat.
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StevieD,

11/05/2008 11:16:05
I hope Mike Mccurry is the ref for Gers remaining fixtures.
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Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 11/05/2008 11:17:52
As a Rangers fan of the '50's /early '60's who now "enjoys"only limited coverage of the SPL I can only comment on yesterday's match.
DU did play well and after going 2 down I thought they came back strongly particularly in the second half.There is no doubt in my mind that the Weir/Hunt incident should have resulted in a penalty and probably a sending off.
The disallowed "goal" would under the old offside law have been clearly offside as soon as the ball was played but with the modern nonsense of having to decide whether a player is "active" etc.,making the job of officials even more difficult some might argue the decision was correct.My own view is that it was an og and it should have stood.Put it this way,had those two incidents been at the other end of the pitch and resulted in the same decisions I would have been just as angry as Craig Levein was.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:18:33
577 You're very knowledgeable about the outcome of hypothetical court cases and about the thoughts inside McCurry's head. Do you know everything about everything? Are you the guy who types all the answers for Wikipedia?
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invictager,

Kent 11/05/2008 11:18:59
Lets put this argument to bed for the day.

If everyone agrees McCurry should never referee another game becaus he was Sh1te then fair enough.

Anything else is just paranoia.

Ps if the tic get a decision today lets just live with it and move on.
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moon glorious 1874,

11/05/2008 11:20:16
#578 HE PROBABLY WILL BE!
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what a chancer,

in the rough 11/05/2008 11:21:03
just another season in scotland,ask your parents they have seen it all before and the oldfirm know it as well the supporters are to embarrassed to admit it all be it they do have the better players,least mcclean and fergie stood up to the refs and the sfa in the eighties as the had plied their trade in the younger days and had witnessed it first hand.
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Publilius Syrus,

C.I.S. Corruption Is Successful !! 11/05/2008 11:23:20
Its still early days but UEFA do not look like they are prepared to get directly involved in this latest corruption to benefit Rearrangers F.C.

UEFA acted swiftly and ultimately decisively to ensure that that corruption would not be exported to Rearrangers European games and similarly,Rearrangers fanz have now been given a strict code of guidance that they must adhere to, and do as they are told when in European competition.

However, Craig Leveins openness and honesty may encourage UEFA to feel obliged to stop these corrupt practises favouring Rearrangers.


Every cloud has a silver lining.
Doesn`t it.
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The Undeniable Truth,

11/05/2008 11:23:34
ALL BEARS should enjoy this week, the quadruple is very much on, and yahoo and all the other sheep lovers in this wee narrow minded country....are sick at the success Sir Walter of Carmyle has brought to the GLASGOW RANGERS

THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT....THE FUTURE IS ORANGE

FOLLOW FOLLOW......TO MANCHESTER WITH PRIDE
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Tim_MallÔy,

11/05/2008 11:28:06
585

Ah yet another of the wee narra peepil

RFC still to win a competition fairly and squarely.

The world's biggest cheats.

Scotlands shame and football's shame.

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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:30:07
584. Penus Minimus. Sorry dude, but every silver lining has a cloud...
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:30:54
586. Hurtin' Timmy?
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The Undeniable Truth,

11/05/2008 11:33:17
586..wee Timmy Mallet

Youve got that many chip's on yer shooder, you should be called "McCain"
and we could call Brother Wellfried....

THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT....THE FUTURE IS ORANGE

FOLLOW FOLLOW......TO MANCHESTER WITH PRIDE
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Rednose Harry,

Wallasey 11/05/2008 11:33:32
#585 It's comments like yours (and others)on what should be about FOOTBALL that bring shame on Scotland.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:37:29
It's a Shame About Ray
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I Love Mike McCurry,

Ibrox 11/05/2008 11:39:27
What's all the fuss about? Brother McCurry had a spectacular game and did not make one mistake. All his decisions were spot-on. It's refreshing to have a true Gers man refereeing the game for a change. Gers have never really had a good referee since George McCluskie and David Syme retired. It's about time we had someone fighting our corner. And Mr MacAulay was sublime on the line. A master stroke. So stop your whingeing, we never got the league extended so we should at least get some positive intervention to ensure we win the league. Cousin and Broadfoot's assaults? Don't make me laugh. It's just part of the rough and tumble of the game. And well done Walter Smith! When you look back on your career you'll know that you did it on your own. So the majority of refs are homers, but so what. The majority of the country supports Rangers so it only stands to reason. No conspiracy here, just a statistical fact.
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Shend for Sebo, Miss Moneypenny,

11/05/2008 11:42:34
592. Seems like one more hurtin' tim has been pushed over the edge by his team's inability to stop the Dignified Juggernaut that is the Mighty Glasgow Rangers. Don't worry son: your not the first and you won't be the last.
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I Love Mike McCurry,

Ibrox 11/05/2008 11:46:26
I agree Sebo. They really should know their place. What do they expect?
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Publilius Syrus,

...C.I.S...Corruption Is Successful !!! 11/05/2008 11:48:05
Where are all the Dundee United fans here ?

Your manager is standing with his d!ck out in a breeze and many of you are conspicuous by your absence !!!

Dundee United,your team, need your support for goodness sake.

Your manager, the proud Craig Levein needs your vocal backing for F.S.

As Delia Smith once cried out....lets be avin yer !!


Its the least Dundee United and Craig Levein deserve.
Isn`t it.
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Brother Walfrid,

11/05/2008 11:50:18
only 9 posts removed from 594.

Can you imagine the furore if it was Celtic who'd gotten away with 'blue murder' ?

The threads were scarlet when we got an iffy corner kick....and in the same match, Motherwell got an iffy corner kick too.
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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 12:20:51
595 who needs United fans when posters are hurting as much as you?

here's some Maths for septc fans:

League Cup+UEFA Cup+SPL+Scottish Cup = what?????

Answers on a postcard please, to P Liealot, septc park, Wrong End of Town.





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AntiGreenian,

11/05/2008 12:29:40
where have all the sptc fans gone - they've been posting all night.

I guess they're getting n e r v o u s....
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The Undeniable Truth,

11/05/2008 12:36:56
595
Perhaps they are smarter than their manager!!!!!
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paulmac,

surrey 11/05/2008 12:48:50
Mike McCurry.....has officiated 4 Celtic league games this season...we've one 1....due to an own goal...

After yesterday's cheating performance...it's easy to see why!

Mike McCurry is the common denominator to this season.