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Pyramid plans offer fresh hope to candidates who missed out



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Published Date: 04 July 2008
THE deep disappointment felt by the four clubs unsuccessful in their attempts to join the Scottish Football League yesterday was tempered by fresh hope and encouragement that they will soon be able to follow Annan Athletic into the senior set-up by way of a pyramid system.
Gordon Smith, the chief executive of the Scottish Football Association, is currently leading a working party looking for a way to open up what has generally been a closed shop unless vacancies are created by either league reconstruction or the demise
of a member club, as in the latest case with Gretna.

Although Smith was not involved in yesterday's SFL election at Hampden, he reacted quickly to its outcome and urged Cove Rangers, Spartans, Edinburgh City and Preston Athletic to press ahead with plans for a step-up from the East of Scotland and Highland Leagues.

"Congratulations to Annan," said Smith, "but to the other four clubs I would say they should continue the work they are doing and, sometime in the future, there might be a system in place that allows them to gain entry into the SFL."

Alan McRae, the honorary president of Cove Rangers, had to swallow the bitter pill of seeing his club miss out on SFL status for a third time. Fourth in 2000 and third in 2002, they were runners-up to Annan yesterday. As SFA vice-president, McRae is certain to lend his support to moves towards the introduction of a pyramid.

"It's sad that, once again, this has come on the back of a club dropping out," said McRae. "Let's hope that, in the near future, the structure might be changed a wee bit and there will be an opening for ambitious and successful clubs to move forward.

"There are no sour grapes from us. It's been a good contest and has probably been well won by Annan.

We have so much to look forward to in relation to getting our new stadium up and running."

Spartans, regarded by many as the favourites at the start of the election process last month, finished third in the vote but chairman Craig Graham believes the chance to progress through a revamped league structure is becoming a more likely prospect.

"Scotland is the only country in western Europe whose football doesn't have a pyramid system and we will be lobbying for that now," said Graham.

"No junior club applied for this vacancy, which probably makes it easier for the pyramid to be based on the East of Scotland League and Highland League."

Graham admitted that Spartans faced difficulty in persuading the incumbent SFL clubs of the financial soundness of their bid, while the concerns over the readiness of their new Ainslie Park stadium also worked against them.

"We gave it our absolute best shot and at the end of the day came up short," he said. "We still have a lot to look forward to with our new stadium opening in the autumn, which was always going to happen with or without SFL football.

"We had a challenge explaining to people what our charitable structure was, although the interesting thing is that a number of clubs have the same charitable structure. The fact that our ground won't be finished until 13 September also counted against us in the scoring system that (SFL chief executive] David Longmuir and his colleagues put together.

"Were the chairmen taking a decision for next season, or one for three to five seasons down the line? Our stadium would have been finished at the end of July if the weather hadn't been so dreadful from January to March which cost us a six-week delay.

"Scotland generally is strange. People who are successful, who undertake ambitious prospects and who have some vision, you would expect people to take inspiration from that. But, once or twice, there is a bit of jealousy around. We certainly didn't encounter that from talking to the club chairmen, but you get more questions on where you got your funding, rather than people applauding you for what you are trying to do for the kids in north Edinburgh."

With just one vote apiece, it was a painful day for both Edinburgh City and Preston Athletic but both clubs tried to shrug aside their dismay and set their sights on being ready to take advantage of any changes to the league structure.

"We hope there will be future opportunities," said Edinburgh City chairman Andy McDonald. "We know we have a strong club and we will be back the next time. It's all part of our development.

"I've no idea when the next opportunity will come, but we want to win the East of Scotland League next season then come knocking on the door asking for a pyramid system. There is a working group looking at that and we obviously believe it makes sense.

"The only chance we have at the moment is if another club goes under and that's not great for football. We congratulate Annan. They have been great for the East of Scotland League and I'm sure they will be great for the Scottish Football League."

Andrew Waddell, secretary of Preston Athletic, said: "Having gone through the process we've picked up a lot of experience and support. It means East Lothian Council have woken up to the prospect that it is possible to have a team.

"I'm quietly confident there will be a pyramid system sooner rather than later and what we've got to do is build a team that's strong enough to get there on merit. It's better than waiting on dead men's shoes."

FACT BOX

Founded: 1942
Ground: Galabank (capacity: approximately 2,000, with 426 seated)
Chairman: Henry McLelland
Manager: Harry Cairney
Last season: 7th in East of Scotland League Premier
Recent honours: East of Scotland League champions (1989/90, 1999/2000, 2000/01, 2006/07), Tennent's Scottish Qualifying Cup (South) Winners (2006/07) SFA South Region Challenge Cup winners (2007/08)

Robert Burns to Ugly Betty, 10 things you didn't know about Annan

1 Seven miles to the west of the English border, the Royal Burgh of Annan is the third biggest town in Dumfries & Galloway, after Dumfries and Stranraer, with a population of around 10,000.

2 The town takes its name from the popular angling river which flows through it to the Solway. The town motto is Ut Flumen Sic Opidum (As the river, so the town).

3 Annan's Motte and Bailey Castle was the original home of the 'de Brus' family, later known as the "Bruces", lords of Annandale, which included Robert the Bruce.

4 Robert Burns worked in the town as an exciseman in the late 1790s.

He wrote the poem The De'il's awa wi' the Exciseman above what is now the town's best chippy, the Cafe Royal.

5 Annan is home to Scotland's first nuclear power station, Chapelcross, which opened in 1959. It produced tritium for Britain's nuclear arsenal. It is in the process of decommissioning and its four cooling towers came down in a spectacular demolition last summer.

6 Like many border towns, Annan celebrates an annual Riding of the Marches – a ceremonial inspection of the town's boundaries by a cavalcade of horses. This year's festival takes place tomorrow.

7 Annan also boasts a rugby team who play in National League Division 1.

8 Olympic gold medallist Steve Ovett lived at nearby Kinmount House for several years in the 1990s and occasionally competed in an Annan & District AC vest.

9 Famous contemporary Annanites include former Deputy First Minister Jim Wallace and Extras and Ugly Betty actress Ashley Jensen.

10 The late father of former Hollyoaks actress and erstwhile love interest of Cristiano Ronaldo, Gemma Atkinson, hailed from Annan and she spent many childhood holidays in the town.

DUNCAN SMITH



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  • Last Updated: 03 July 2008 11:00 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
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1

bring them on,

04/07/2008 04:59:58
Why do they have runners up in something like this.

I wonder if the get a silver medal?
2

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 08:54:30
Don't know why the opportunity was not taken to restructure Scottish Football and bring all the applicants in to the league and then get the "Pyramid" whatever it is inplace.
The leagues need a major restructure.
3

Alasdair,

04/07/2008 09:08:14
They really do need to look at the possibilities of a pyramid system. The main obstacle as I see it is that many of the Junior teams have no interest in playing in the main leagues.
Tae Pollok for example - they can draw crowds that are 3 times what some 3rd divison sides get, but have no desire to move leagues. What's the solution?
4

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 09:18:09
#3 Alisdair - The solution is, I think, that an analysis is done within the leagues which would be involved in the Pyramid and a decision made after that analysis, it may be that only a few teams want "Promotion" so a restructure may be the way forward rather than a Pyramid solution, or if many clubs want to be involved then lower reagues are restuctured to suit as part of the overall plan.
5

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

04/07/2008 09:23:59
Dont' hold your breath based on the above. Couldnt you have pushed him a bit harder , Scotsman ? "Sometime in the future... " and it even sounds like a hastily constructed email.

No disrrespect to East Stirlingshire but.. who am I trying to kid.. get this dross out of scottish football and make the 3rd division competitive.
6

Who?,

04/07/2008 09:46:10
Pyramid structure is the wrong way to do it. Scotlands population demographic and the size of the clubs who would be involved mean there would be a few very long away trips.

In the present climate Elgin playing away to Berwick or Stranraer must cost alot. For either club invovled no profit can be made from these fixtures as very few away fans will travel and the local interest is not present.

Two national leagues of 10 with regional leagues below them is the best way forward. People have to be attracted to attending football games at that level which IMO divisions 2 & 3 do not have. Putting them into regional leagues with the highland clubs, east and west of scotland teams would add a bit of spice and competition.
7

petegeneva,

geneva 04/07/2008 09:52:05
#6 yup, regionalise it below the first 2 divisions. That's how it's done in most countries but we're Scotland what can we learn from anyone else?
8

Who?,

04/07/2008 09:54:54
Also Spartans must be the worst loosers outside the OF. No congratulations to Annan, no comiserations to the other clubs who missed out, just very petty sour quotes from a bunch of people who were incapable of putting a propper bid together.

The people associated with Spartans must take a look at themselves when they do a post mortum of their bid. They could have done so much more so much better instead of being thoroughly arrogent throughout the whole process.

Maybe Spartans and to a lesser extent Edinburgh City should come back when they have more than 10 people and 5 dogs at every game!
9

Who?,

04/07/2008 09:59:12
#7 Agreed, most european countries with better transport facilities than scotland realise that small clubs shouldn't be forced to pay out money on unnecessary travel to away games. Having teams from the highlands play teams from the borders 4 time per club is wrong.
10

Johnny Jambo,

04/07/2008 10:04:21
Regionlising the lower leagues is OK but how do we deal with promotion and relegation from these two regional leagues if the teams due to be relegated both come from the same region.

I agree with those who say we should learn from other countries it is done in this exact manner in Germany, They have the Bundesliga the second League then the rest are regional. It seems to work very well too.
11

Who?,

04/07/2008 10:21:06
#10 say two teams are relegated, they can both go into their nearest regional league. When designing a concept like this the powers that be will need to build in some slack. You may also find out that a team such as say Cowdenbeath could go into an angus league as well as an east of scotland league. However the design of the setup is important are required forward planning and joined up thinking (what the mugabe (g)FA plan forward?)

You could have the top two from each regional league play off for the promotion places.
12

Phil Lawrence,

Tallinn 04/07/2008 10:56:01
The ambition of many non-league teams, especially in the Highland League, to SFL membership is severely tempered by the belief that there will be no financial benefit in going up to a national league. The opposite is quite likely with increased costs cutting the margin between profit and loss ever closer. Quite a few of the HL clubs are already very well run with a steady income stream from non-footballing activities and the move to a national structure would increase the dependency on this which is neither desired nor advisable.

Just consider for a moment a club like Buckie Thistle. They are a top three HL club and regularly win cups. The Victoria Park side consistently have the best fan turn-out of any senior non-league club. They probably would not relish a place in a national SFL for a very simple reason - travelling costs. Elgin City are situated 17 miles up the road and that is very handy but in today's third division the next nearest away matches would be at Montrose (102 miles) and Forfar (114 miles). After that there is Cowdenbeath (171 miles) and Stenhousemuir (190 miles). Also let's not forget Annan (274 miles). Of course all these clubs would have to visit Buckie but that would only be twice a season - The Jags would have to make these long journeys for every second match barring the Moray derby.

However a format where the SFL's lower reaches would be regionalised decreases that liability drastically. Second and third divisions perhaps comprising two ten-team sections each arranged as North/East and South/West would offer a great opportunity for senior and junior clubs to join the national league system at a local level. In setting this up all existing third division clubs could be kicked up one level to a regional second division - a bonus promotion if you will - and their own costs would be reduced into the bargain. Then ten clubs from each of the two new regions could be admitted to the new third division.

This is only one of many possibiliti
13

Phil Lawrence,

Tallinn 04/07/2008 11:08:36
This is only one of many possibilities but in this scheme the teams which are perennially accused of lacking ambition in the lower reaches of the third division would be challenged to demonstrate if they have any ambition at all in voting to accept or reject a promotion. I am quite sure that there will be some lower third division chairman who would happily justify rejecting the idea of promotion through some convoluted double speak.

But isn't the whole purpose of a league system with various divisions to perpetuate a meritocracy? Any club which refuses to seek merit should by definition be rejected from the SFL as operating contrary to the purposes of the competition. Now THAT will never happen!
14

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging Around 04/07/2008 11:18:14
#12 Phil - you've obviously put some thought into your e-mail and it sounds good in practice. Very lucid comments from others as well.

Sad to say the scheme will not work as any re-organisation would have to go through the same process as the election of Annan (and well done to them); namely the 29 (or now 30) clubs would have to agree on any proposed change. As you say, it makes no sense at all that teams with ambition - like Buckie - should be stifled and prevented from moving up to the next logical step unless and until another club folds. Unfortunately, before anything can happen, we really need to look closely at how Scottish Football is organised - and if we did we'd find a lot of what some call "blazers" but I think of as "hangers-on" who are involved at committee and executive level. The solution is regional leagues but we would first have to get rid of all but one of the SFA, SFL, SPL and SJFA organisations - and all the other sub-associations. I honestly don't see why a country of 5 million needs so many different, non-agreeing sometimes but not always mutually exclusive organisations to run ONE sport! Total madness. If Gordon Smith and the SFA made the decision to push through a pyramid structure them all any unhappy clubs need to do (if there were a dozen of them) is apply to join and form SPL2 and the whole new SFA set-up would fail! Step one, then, is to get shot of the hangers-on and form the "Association for Scottish Football" to run the game at all levels for the whole country. Within the ASF we could have a league management committee and a referees committee and any other committee that was needed - but first one body needs to have control of all the club sides from SPL to amateurs... and that won't happen. Turkeys balloting for Christmas is more likely.
15

Reeky,

Wild West 04/07/2008 11:30:47
"No junior club applied for this vacancy, which probably makes it easier for the pyramid to be based on the East of Scotland League and Highland League."

So Craig Graham thinks that because no Junior clubs are interested in the basket case that is SFL3, that they are not interested in a Pyramid? Only one club from the Highland League applied, maybe they should not be included either? It seems like those who run Spartans have their head in the sand on all sorts of issues.

Phil Lawrence's post above has summed up the scenario perfectly.
16

Phil Lawrence,

Tallinn 04/07/2008 11:39:16
#14 You are right. But I firmly believe that the SJFA needs to be engaged so as to make the SFL something to aspire to for junior teams. Maybe a few successes in the Scottish Cup against SFL clubs by SJFA teams might crystallize the whole possibility of a genuine junior-senior crossover. If clubs such as Linlithgow Rose can be successful “nationally” it might alter opinions.

Here's hoping!

PS Cheers Reeky
17

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

04/07/2008 11:52:03
Good post Phil.
18

decent one,

04/07/2008 13:16:58
The SFL has to take the bull by the horns and form 3 regional Premier Divisions - Highland League Prem, East Scotland Prem & West Scotland Prem. Each Premier Div could have its own regional divisions below it.

Every team in Scotland would be invited to join.

The current Highland League would form the basis for the Highland Prem . The current East Scotland League Prem would form the basis for the new East Scotland Prem ( plus some if not all of the East Juniors). The new West Scotland Prem would however need the participation of a number of West Juniors (the main problem!) and be supplemented by the current South Scotland League.

19

Bemused and above it all,

04/07/2008 16:11:08
the regional league idea has merits but having 2 of 10 teams in national set up would be unworkable, best route would be extend to two of 15 as the national leagues, with the regionals being split geographically. This could sustain 2 fulltime leagues and allow those interested to develop, say 3 regionals, west,east,north with the winners having guaranteed promotion, play offs for the say 2 other spots in league 2 and 3 up 3 down in the top league to make life interesting?
20

Helen,

04/07/2008 19:48:58
I'd like to see a Premier League and a First Division of 16 clubs each, then a Conference North and a Conference South with 16 clubs each. That would limit the amount of costly travelling and would still make the League competitive. Then the pyramid could kick in and who knows where it would stop....
21

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

04/07/2008 20:13:54
I'd like to see 20,000 leagues with 1 team captained by Nemo.

The cup competition wouldl be the Jules Verne Trophy.
22

Jockoz,

Brisbane, Aus 08/07/2008 06:29:23
"No disrrespect to East Stirlingshire but.. who am I trying to kid.. get this dross out of scottish football and make the 3rd division competitive."
Let's re-visit this comment again at the end of the season, shall we?

 

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