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Romanov set to step up Hearts recruitment drive



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Published Date: 08 July 2008
By BARRY ANDERSON
VLADIMIR ROMANOV was intending to accelerate Hearts' player recruitment process today by meeting the Portuguese agent Paulo Barbosa to discuss potential new signings.
With just over four weeks left until the SPL season begins and new faces yet to appear at Riccarton, Romanov is preparing to take matters into his own hands in the absence of a first-team manager.

Barbosa, a close ally of the majority shareholder, has been asked to recommend potential recruits for Hearts having previously furnished the club with players such as midfielders Bruno Aguiar and Ruben Palazuelos, as well as former striker Edgaras Jankauskas.

The Russian businessman was in London last night accompanied by Tynecastle director Sergejus Fedotovas as Hearts received a CommunityMark award, recognition of their hands-on involvement in local activities through the club's education and community trust.

Today's discussions with Barbosa could quicken the process of trying out new signings, with trialists expected to arrive before or during this month's pre-season tour of Germany.

Romanov is also continuing his search for a suitable manager who will lead Hearts into the new season. With club officials stressing that an appointment is likely in the near future, Romanov wants his new coach in place before the team depart for their ten-day German trip, during which they will play three friendly matches.

He has spoken with Laszlo Csaba, the Hungarian national coach of Uganda but, as the Evening News revealed on Friday, is set to interview another candidate this week.

Meanwhile, discussions are still being held over the Tynecastle future of Fernando Screpis with the Argentine's agent Juan Cobian.




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  • Last Updated: 08 July 2008 11:04 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

Hibby Heapy,

08/07/2008 11:59:23
Why does he not name himself Manager?

Save all the trouble of finding a suitable fax operator!
2

hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 12:00:31
ohhhh well... After what looked like a good bit of news yesterday for the jambos...

Normal service resumed...

Vlads now "offically" going to be deciding which players to sign... dear oh dear oh dear...

I hope he signs some more of his "world cup stars" that have graced the maroon jersey recently..... Relegation would surely result...

The man is an utter fool when it comes to the playing side of football and should leave well alone (athough he can tinker as much as he likes as far I'm concerned)....

Wouldnt he be better just getting a manager in for you boys? r has he given up on that altogether now I wonder?
3

Graham Rix ate my hamster,

08/07/2008 12:02:59
3 Hibs fans in a row.

Thats why you are the wee team.

4

victorian of gorgie ,

08/07/2008 12:07:27
how many more abject defeats at the hands of mediocre intertattie opponents will it take before they quit their woofing about hearts and concentrate on their own team's poor prospects?

5

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:07:52
What a sad, sad shower of feckers you really are. I pity you.

Get a life.
6

Bhoyed,

Back in the Capitol 08/07/2008 12:09:40
#4 Compared to who?
7

hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 12:09:49
#6

"woofing about Hearts"

Thats it, you've lost it victor, you've gone totally barking...

Boom Boom...
8

Stevie Frail,

08/07/2008 12:10:36
Vic, no amount of intertatty defeats makes Hearts not funny. We can follow Hibs and laugh at hearts, doesnt have to be either or.

Simple, but beautiful.
9

Eighteen Seventy-Four,

08/07/2008 12:10:42

Desperate Hobos, you can only laugh at them, more concerned about the big team than the incompetent Mixu.
10

GrahamL,

08/07/2008 12:11:12
As per usual. Half decent news on the business side of things, followed up by a kick in the nads.
If - as stated on the Hearts website YESTERDAY - a new manager is coming in "shortly". Why, in the name of all that's sane, is Vlad looking to bring in new players today??

I can only hope that this story is just the paper trying to rustle up a bit of controversy. Cos if Vlads going to bring in a load of players before the manager then things haven't shifted one iota. Have they?
11

Propaganda boy,

08/07/2008 12:12:07
Is this the Hobos page?

Why don't we discuss Mixu and Rod's transfer targets? Why not sign the Swdish nobodies that just demolished them at Easter road?? Oh yeah Newtongrange Star are offering higher wages these days.
12

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:13:51
In light of the recent announcement Graham I find your comment a tad negative...better to have no manager than an incompetent fool like Mixu :o)
13

howmuchforthedodgemsmate,

08/07/2008 12:14:25
Bruno Ruben and Janny were mentioned in the article.Hardly bargain basement, where as Hubs have adequate cash to bring in top drawer without going overboard and lok at players from Carlisle LOL.

The show dwellers beep rooted jealousy is never far away from Edinburgh's big team

I wonder how many tickets hibs have sold for the Barca game the PR dudes down lochend are awfy awfy quiet :-)
14

Ironing Maiden,

08/07/2008 12:14:45
Well the new manager will love this, coming to a team with more duds signed by Romanov. This is just one big real life version of Championship Manager for this idiot.
15

Stevie Frail,

08/07/2008 12:15:37
Oh dear, you jumbos have no sense of humour, have you?

Other fans commenting on Hearts? Preposterous! Should be a law against it!

Look, when you stop being funny, we'll stop posting on your stories, deal?
16

howmuchforthedodgemsmate,

08/07/2008 12:16:58
Vlad has always brought players to the club, this nothing new !!
17

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:17:19
#16...

I doubt they've sold many tickets. After all, they couldn't even sell all their tickets for a Scottish Cup semi-final against their city rivals...

No matter how they colour it, that is an absolute DISGRACE and goes to show they bottled it before their players even walked onto the pitch.

Hibs fans have the BIGGEST inferiority complex in Scottish football. End of.
18

Ganjass,

08/07/2008 12:18:39
Hearts, may not have a sense of humour, but there's no doubt they are funny, in that dry unintentional type way. I find it really refeshing, as you don't get many professional teams now a days that can be so jaunty
19

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:19:17
Stevie,

Hearts fans have a great sense of humour. Only not when it's related to pathetic sad wee boys, sitting in their rooms beasting themselves while posting on a Hearts thread and getting their jeebies...

one last time...

G E T

A

L I F E




R E A L L Y
20

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:21:53
#9

No actually I think Vic is spot on here.

Take a look at the ratio of Hearts fans compared to non Hearts fans on this thread today...'Woofing' utter guf because their pet project (Us being asset stripped or going bust) has been taken away from them with one paragraph from Johnston Carmichael in his evaluation in this mornings Scotsman.

Since it is becoming increasingly clear to even the most desperate Hobonomicist (Sergina) that: tick tock, flats, asset stripping etc, are just the wet dreams of the bitter, Hearts' stating that a manager is imminent is just the wagons being drawn in a circle as they cling to their last wee bit of now well worn stick that they like to use to continually swing at Hearts.

It is there for all to see in the first three posts. (congrats again Sergina by the way... are we going to remove this post too you sad wee girl) where the local cybervilliage idiot and his wee nerdy mates are out in force.

I don't actually include you in the above as i have had a few decent debates with you in the past but you are also prone to just being offensive too... You can decide whether you are in that contemptable little gang with it's sad wee leaders of Riley and Sergina... Who am I to try and influence the company you choose to keep.

21

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 08/07/2008 12:22:36
£12 million invested in HMFC yesterday, new players on the horizon, NEW MANAGER deal just about done...
queue panic stricken, brain dead Hibbies flapping all over the place.
Meanwhile down at Easter Road...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Meanwhile on any Hibs thread...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
As for the "Most Oppressed People Ever" coming on here and slavering...Bog Off! No one gives a rats turd about what you think.
Some excellent news HMFC, including--
"Hearts received a CommunityMark award, recognition of their hands-on involvement in local activities through the club's education and community trust".
BAnter between Hearts fans and Hibs fans is fine, O.F. scumbags is another thing alltogether.


22

Stevie Frail,

08/07/2008 12:27:36
Jumbos, take a powder and lie down, its only football. You lot are so bitter!

Dont blame us for laughing at you, we didnt make you what you are today.
23

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:29:47
#12

Yep and this is my concern too as i have been saying for weeks now the Kauno/Ripo nugget that Rober let slip in his interview regarding his turning down the Hearts job is going to be our biggest problem... We just can't carry anymore deadwood and Rober did not see the talent in what these clubs had to offer.

If the Hoobs and idiots like (Kris) Bhouyed had an ounce of inteligence then this would be the angle that they would use to try and stick the boot in to hearts instead of these childish little remarks and badly thought out jibes.

I fully expect any new players arriving before a coach to be the Ivaskevicius type clowns that Berra and Larry will again be expected to carry through games against players superior in abilty to them from such dazzling clubs as ICT.

The financial news is looking better and we really need a coach to get them performing again but this stupid feeder system will mean that we will again be underperforming and may ultimately have dressing room dischord again due to players taking the hump over getting hooked in favour of Miko or Ivaskevicius.
24

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 08/07/2008 12:29:47
This agent has previously provided decent players for us, why should Hearts not be in contact with him?

If there are some decent players avaialable - I don't care who signs them as long as we get them.

#12. Do you want to borrow my pitch-fork?
25

victorian of gorgie ,

08/07/2008 12:31:39
#26, that's the point. laugh away to your hearts contents when there's something to laugh about by all means. there is nothing new to laugh about here so kindly stop yer squawking.

i think it's like an addiction for them now, they literally can't quit the habit.

drivel junkies, that's what they are.

26

billyq,

in my living room 08/07/2008 12:31:42
#19 you are correct in what you say but the vast majority of them have been useless duds .Just like romanov. to #25 12m was not invested in Hearts yesterday it was a share for debt scheme which means the little tyrant has now even more power
27

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 08/07/2008 12:31:56
#27. Has this Portugese agent supplied us with clowns previously? If Romanov was currently looking to bring some players in from his other clubs, why the agent? Get a grip!
28

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 08/07/2008 12:33:29
#30. Seriously! You don't have a clue what the debt to equity scheme is all about, go away and do some research!

The amount of extra shares going to UBIG is irrelevant as far as control is concerned - try and keep up!
29

victorian of gorgie ,

08/07/2008 12:35:50
#30, jeez!!! it just goes to show that there are still people out there who are taken in by whatever appears in the daily rioter.

30

hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 12:36:09
#24 - Jamboy

post #3 was just a bit of tounge in cheek as was #9.. "woofing" = "barking mad" (get it)....

I know it wasnt the best joke in the world but thats all it was...

The fact that you decide to leave me out of the list probably tells its own story eh? I've never come on here and given it tick tock, falts, flats etc... Just tried to perhaps given an outside view at times without wearing green or maroon tinted glasses.

I agree there are rafts of idiots on here who ruin any chance of open debate and its getting worse as time goes on & I can see a point where the EN & Scotsman will just shut them down.

However it isnt just Hibbys that have an idiot selection on here... Theres plenty Jambos who are quite clearly just 100% bitter & twisted......

What really gets my goat at times is that according to some no Hibs fan should be posting on a Hearts story. Whats the point in an open forum then I ask?

The reason that Hearts stories get more posts at present is that the stories are more open to debate rather than the run of the mill stuff coming out of ER. Saying all that in terms of being a supporter I'd rather have the run of the mill most of the times instead of the constant troubles & strifes of HoMfc...

Ohhhh and Victor if your there..... The same thing I always say to you lad.... Everyones entitled to an opinion arent they? In your case however it only applies if its the same opinion as yours eh?
31

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:36:45
#31

Fair point about the agent, I stand corrected but are you just going stand there with your hands over your ears everytime someone like Rober lets slip something about the direction the club is moving in... Did he just make it up?

As for the agent supplying us with good players, yeah fair enough but what duties then are going to be left to the manager... Fitness and tactics? Is that it? Are you happy about this? What kind of a manager is going to take a job like that? A top class one? Get a grip!
32

Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

08/07/2008 12:38:39
Hearts news this week- debt reduction share issue, agent asked to bring new players to club, club joins Euro elite, club awarded community award, new manager to be announced this week.
Hibs news - humped 2 two nil at home by bunch of nobodies from sweden in first round of Intertatty.
33

victorian of gorgie ,

08/07/2008 12:39:33
#34, that's a tired old myth that you've reverted to i'm afraid. i'm all for the banter and debate on here.

you're looking in the wrong place for people who can't tolerate opposing opinions. try using your own mind to decide these things instead of repeating jaded old myths created by others.

fwiw, i too wasn't including you in the cretin element.

34

GrahamL,

08/07/2008 12:41:30
#28 Pitchfork??
Anyway. As far as I'm concerned, we should not be bringing in players before a manager comes in. No matter who they are. I'm not particularly happy at players leaving the club without a manager either - but that comes down to trimming the wage bill, so I can see the justification in that. But bringing in new guys? Without knowing what the new manager wants?
Nah. That's not good enough for me. I admire your optimism, but until I see some evidence that Vlads meddling is over, I'm not going to be a happy bunny.
35

Stevie Frail,

08/07/2008 12:42:12
Vic, post 29, calling us junkies? You, the omnipresence? That was a joke, right?

Please tell me you were joking, surely you have some insight?
36

howmuchforthedodgemsmate,

08/07/2008 12:42:27
Coming soon to Gorgie

New Manager
New Players
New Stand

It's all good in the Gorgie Hood and getting better by the day :-)

37

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:42:37
Jamboy...

Was that you on Talk107 Sport last night with a point about Hobo goalkeepers?
38

Bhoyed,

Back in the Capitol 08/07/2008 12:42:53
#33 It is a more reliable source than VR, remember the champions league winning, world cup stars etc. etc. etc.

With his history, why do you continue to believe everything he says or does without question?
39

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:43:28
#35

CJ,

You know I am not a wrist slitter and I am most certainly embracing the positives as i hop came across in my posts.

I am over the moon that we are taking steps (aplauded by our auditors) to tacklr the debt and also that we are aproaching managers of a good standard but I just cannot allow myself to disregard the comments of Rober.

I genuinely hope that Vlad has learnt his lesson on the tinker front (No pun intended Sergina) but I will not believe it until I see it... I hope to be wrong and will as always hold my hands up if that proves to be the case, I am honest and just try to be balanced.
40

hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 12:44:16
#38

Sometimes viccy you can be hard work to put a counter argument to though & thts why I made that comment towards you, especially in light of post #6, which was most certainly aimed at me....

However we'll agree to disagree once more and get on with talking about the football shall we...

That is of course if I have the permission of the hearts fans to comment on their club? ;-)
41

victorian of gorgie ,

08/07/2008 12:44:17
#40, oh dear... another tired old myth.

drivel junkie AND a myth junkie.

42

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:44:48
#43

Why do you believe that Jock never knew when clearly he tried to sweep your dirt under a green hooped rug?
43

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:45:01
#42

Aye... I won a book two weeks ago in one of their comps. Was expecting a Footy book but got a book of old cartoons by a glaswegian comic. :o(
44

Gorgie's Finest,

08/07/2008 12:46:17
Interesting that Yesterday we have have this Quote directly from Hearts

"As each step is completed, supporters can be assured that full information will be announced - direct to supporters."

"The club will continue to implement the right decisions despite criticism from the sceptics."


Today we have this article without a single quote from Hearts yet there are those that are taking this as gospel even though only yesterday Hearts said Information would be passed directly to the fans, in other words cutting out the media link between them and the fans..

Seriously some of these moronic hobos are really working themselves into a frenzy at the moment...and really showing signs of panic and fear.
45

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:47:12
Jamboy

There's a few weegie comics on here, usually blind weegie comics. Rangers fans never rioted in Manchester and Big Jock didnae ken!

W E E G I E

S C U M
46

Ironing Maiden,

08/07/2008 12:47:43
#23 So do you actually beleive that the manager will have the final say on this matter? GET YER HEAD OUT OF THE SAND!
47

hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 12:47:45
#41

Dont hold your breath eh? You've only been waiting 7+ months for a manger so far...

As many will say here "dont believe everything you read in the Daily Rioter".. Likewise the EN & Scotsman.

Until you actually see & manager, "quality" players, new stand then not much has changed for Hearts Im afraid...

48

Glorious Hearts,

08/07/2008 12:48:52
#30 "12m was not invested in Hearts yesterday it was a share for debt scheme which means the little tyrant has now even more power"

Romanov, even before yesterday, had absolute power at Hearts.
You can't increase absolute power. Absolute power is absolute.

Your argument is nonsense. I believe you've just been pwned.
49

Stotty,

08/07/2008 12:49:08
The Hibees wetting their knickers over this one eh!

Answer me this, was it Mixu's decision to bring in Colin Nish? Because Hibs were in talks with him long before Mixu took over.
50

Alba-Hibs,

08/07/2008 12:49:43
I think he might be changing his name from Vlad to Mr

The yams are too easily brought back into line...
51

Stotty,

08/07/2008 12:52:07
In other news Mixu "won't be rushed into signing duds".....aye, is he going to take his time to sign them then?
52

Jamboy,

08/07/2008 12:52:07
#53

Do Rangers still owe that 50mil that murray paid off in the same way then?
53

Bhoyed,

08/07/2008 12:52:29
#47 Do you actually think that by bringing this up has anything to do with what is being discussed?
To sink this low and use this to try and win a point is unbelievable, whether anyone knew or not, think of the victims before typing your hate!
54

Bigwull,

edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:53:19
I have it on good authority less than 15000 tickets sold for the Barcelona game
55

Ironing Maiden,

08/07/2008 12:55:22
#56 Sensible course of action is sure to appoint a manager who then identifies his own players who he can work with. Comparing the system to Real Madrid or Barcelona is silly - they sign World Class players with proven track records - not duds from Eastern Europe.
56

InsideOutside,

08/07/2008 12:55:25
Alba-Hibs,

Don't you have something more important to do with your time? Like, collect your giro/wrap, etc?

I am so curious what goes on in the mind of a Hobo. Why, why, why go onto your rivals thread and spout pi5h all day.

I'm no shrink but it is clear that you have a HUGE big CHIP on your shoulders about the great Heart of Midlothian.

There is no other reason. Envy, pure and simple.
57

hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 12:55:37
#54

No it wasnt...

Hardly wetting my knickers though lad..... We've seen the star turns old Uncle Vald's brought in do their stuff.... Where did such "world cup stars" get you last season?

I'll panic when...

A) Hearts appoint a real manager with complete control of the team (signings, training, selection, tactics.. the lot)

B) Genuine top class players start arriving at Tynecastle & not just the duds currently residing in the squad

Therefore this story actually worries me not a jot... Now a headline like "Jol yes to Hearts" would perhaps have me a litte damp around the crotch (I choose Martin Jol because he's a damn good manager & should never have been paid off by us & could in theory be a target if your main man got his act together)....

In the meantime I'll sleep easy...
58

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 12:56:36
#56

I agree with your sentiments and will play what part i can, unfortunately this will not include a season ticket (for financial reasons this season other than on principal) but i will be attending all the games i can and will continue to be the vehement supporter of the club I love as per usuall.

I don't think we can just not question these doubts we both obviously share but I will certainly be able to keep them seperate from my assesments of the positives and my imortal love for Hearts the best club on earth.

HHGH
59

Stotty,

08/07/2008 12:59:30
#63 - I meant wetting your knickers getting all excited at the chance to have yet another petty pot shot at Hearts about a story which be perceived as negative. Some of you boys even tried it with yesterday's news and it just makes you look a little petty.

You did the same when we got bids for Berra & Driver - "selling club" "asset stripper" etc etc - have either actually been sold? No, they haven't.

You guys should wait and see what actually happens instead of wetting yourselves and jumping the gun all so you can have a pop at Hearts.

Do Hibs fans even read their own team's stories?
60

Gorgie's Finest,

08/07/2008 12:59:42
#63

Did you see your star turns on sunday David van Zanten great player from that top club St Midden (Mixu signing was he not? yet today Mixu saying he won't rush into signing duds...hahaha) comedy gold

Who else have you signed? oh yes Yantorno, he came from ........GRETNA....anyone else?
61

GrahamL,

08/07/2008 13:00:41
#56 Fair enough, although still doesn't feel right to me to have Vlad organising a beauty pageant for the new manager to pick his favourites from (especially when the agent is Vlads pal). I'd rather a new manager came in, with his own plans for the team, his own ideas of the players he wants and puts together a new team. But as has been said before this is all speculation - it should be the manager, as nothings happened yet we can't get too upset. But Vlads track record ain't good.
I'm holding off final judgement until something happens, that's only fair. Vlad set out a model for how the club will be run 6 months ago, we'll find out how much of it he meant in the next few weeks.
62

victorian of gorgie ,

08/07/2008 13:02:31
#45 hibbyspurs, like i said i'm not the one trying to shout down opposing views, others do it i agree, not me. i get on fine here with quite a few hearts and hibs fans who have different views to me.

there is a demarkation line between banter/debate with opposing opinions and downright nasty, trouble making, juvenile drivel.

anyway, no cyber war required here.
63

Stevie Frail,

08/07/2008 13:04:44
No 62 Insidious one, there is another explanation, Hearts are great fun. Come on now, deep down you know it, look at the posts from some of your own supporters.

My mum told me its not nice to laugh at people less fortunate than myself so I will try and go easy on you. Its just football banter.

64

Alba-Hibs,

08/07/2008 13:06:25
InsideOutside,

just pointing out a fact...

one minute you are all ready to organise rallies against him and then the next day its yes sir, no sir, thank you sir.

come Monday the rally will be back on !!!
65

Jimmy Jam Tart,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:07:13
#54 Correctamundo!!

Gorgeous George was in talks with Killie about signing that big streak of Nish before Mixu was even spoken about. And while he was at it, he still had the cheek to be selling off the family silver whilst going to the deluded cap in hand for half season tickets, which they lapped up.

Still, it's not like the Hobo's to have selective amnesia eh??
66

Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:10:03
#60

You see this will be interesting actually and perhaps a good yard stick to measure the argument about how many neutrals were at the First Barca Murrayfield game.

I firmly believe that about three quarters of supporters at that game were Jambos and don't see this as out landish concidering the attendances we have attracted at that venue when playing in Europe, 30 odd thousand etc.

I don't think Hibs will sell out the ground for two reasons: 1) And I am not being intentionaly offensive here... Hibs have a slightly smaller fan base than us.

and 2) Because a lot of the neutrals who attended the first game will not be in as much of a hurry to see a team that will almost certainly not carry the names of Henry and Ronaldinho... Whether Barca are a better or worse team now is irrelevant as some people will always just want to see the big names with big reputations. Barca could have a more efficient and better side with better players but without the superstar names they will not attract the same crowd.

before anyone trys to batter me over the head with names like Xavi, I want to make it clear that I rate these guys as high or even higher than Ronny and Terry but aside from Messi a lot of more armchair orientated fans will not apreciate just how good they are.
67

howmuchforthedodgemsmate,

08/07/2008 13:10:31
I noticed in the press today that Maybury blew his chance to sign for abergreen.My take would be abergreen blew their chance to sign him.A lot of press is speculation and when it comes to Hearts most days it's guarented to have a negative spin

Maybe the eternal optimist but i reckon more good news to come as the weeks pass

And my ST came through the door today

Reasonably happy Jambo
68

hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 13:13:16
#65

Did I come on here yesterday proclaiming the story as negtive? - NO

Did I say "asset stripper" - "fire sale" etc. etc. - Again NO

If you view the comments on the main Hibs story today then I think the answer to your question regarding "do I ever read the Hibs stories" should be glaringly obvious.....

#66

Regardless of Sundays performance by Hibs it still wont detract from the fact that your star turns still finished 8th in the SPL last term.....

As #65 says - why not "wait & see" what happens with any signing Hibs make before "jumping up and down" and decrying them as comedy gold...

Who have Hearts actually signed this close season SO FAR by the way?
69

Gorgie's Finest,

08/07/2008 13:14:21
#70 ALBA

I dont know about InsideOutside's views, however a lot of Hibs fans seems to have our views twsited and seem to think because we are happy and welcome the news regarding the share-equity plan that somehow we think all is rosey in the garden again...There are two seperate issues here try not to confuse them both....there is the business side of the Club then there is the playing side of it....we can be happy with one but not the other....While I have not renewed my ST i still have no intention of doing so until the playing side of it the footballing side of our club is sorted, as fans that is why we go to games, we dont go to games to cheer on 12million pound being wiped off the debt and sing songs about it.....I have never slated Vlad for his business acumen and wouldnt, the guy has proved he is a very shrewd businessman.....Where i do have my issues with him is his interference in the team when he hasnt clue....and the lack of a good manager etc etc.

Try not to confuse or twist the two seperate issues into one
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:16:17
#75

We are on the same page.
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jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 08/07/2008 13:17:04
BELIEVE
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Stotty,

08/07/2008 13:18:18
#74 - I was talking about Hibs fans in general, when I say 'you' I refer to Hibs fans as a whole.

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Pele,

08/07/2008 13:20:49
Cup of tea, choc biscuit, then read about the team 36million+ in debt,

laugh for dunks.
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hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 13:21:11
#72

I actually agree with most of that.. The average attendance figures dont lie and Hibs have a smaller average attendance (cira 800-1000 I believe)...

Can I also throw in another caveat for the Barca game? Bear in mind that Hearts played Barca on a Saturday afternoon & Hibs will play them on a Thursday night.. A lot of neutrals who went last time may not go again because of the game being played on a school night so to speak. Especially any contingent from the weeg...

I have said all along that we would have been better playing them at ER in front of a sell out instead of a most likely half to two thirds empty Murrayfield.

There is 0% chance of Hibs attracting as big a crowd to this game as Hearts did a year ago & there are many reasons for this not just the "big team", "wee team" nonsense many Hearts fans will spout...

Fwiw in the end I reckon between 25,000 - 30,000 at a push will be there.
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hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 13:23:47
#78, that an apology then?
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:24:38
#81

Fair do's, reckon that will be about right... I didn't even know it was on a Thursday night, who's brainchild was that one??? I just presumed a match like that would always be on a Sat or Sun. Did united grab that timeslot first?
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Jenks,

08/07/2008 13:25:08
Hobos eh, dont you just love them!

Complete and utter morons, not all of them of course but the majority posting on Hearts threads day in day out...trully pathetic.

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Bhoyed,

08/07/2008 13:25:33
#75 Very eloquently put, but I have to question whether the real issue is, as you say:

"Where i do have my issues with him is his interference in the team when he hasnt clue....and the lack of a good manager etc etc".

Because VR must have been picking the team or involved in it when you won the cup and finished second to Glasgow Celtic, as it was Valdas Ivansomething that was in charge for the cup win and he was a VR puppet extrodinare.
Therefore is your issue not the fact that you have fallen from where you were a couple of seasons ago and that the quality of player you have now is not a patch on what it once was and VR's involvement in team selection is merely an easy target?
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Jamboy,

Pele's skull listening to echos 08/07/2008 13:26:48
#80

Have you been away for the last few days or are you just stupid?

Who is in 36 mil debt???
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08/07/2008 13:27:22
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hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 13:28:01
#83

No sure but Utd are playing them at the weekend.
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Gorgie's Finest,

08/07/2008 13:31:10
#85

Not really, because since Burley left, we have been going downhill slowly, Vldas inherited a good team of players, so maybe you are right in a sense the quality of player has gone down but why has this happened? because of Vlads interference. In the end we scarpped into 2nd place that season just, when at one point it looked a certainty and up until the new year game against Celtic we were still in with Challenging very much for the League. The scottish cup as you know we scrapped by in the final.

So perhaps a bit of both but the quality of player has dropped because of Vlads interference so that is generally what the issue is
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:34:29
#85

Burley was sacked for resisting the orders of Vlad and importantly his coleagues.

The Anderton interview regarding Skacel for Miko points this out.

The Cup win was (and I give not a sheet if I get abuse for sticking up for the guy) largely down to the leadership od guys like Elvis ,Fysas and Gordon, who ensured that certain elements of the squad were not allowed to slack and behave as they are doing currently.

The other reason we were better despite Vlads continuall interferance is that Jose couldn't lace Fysass' boots and the same goes for Miko/Skacel, Bednar/Nade etc, etc, etc.

Before the absentees from the final are thrown at me, I know they were not in the final but they played their part over the whole season which is I presume what you are refering to... The Cup run as well as the win and the bigger picture as a whole.
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Ronaldo Stuffed Everyone,

08/07/2008 13:35:48
#81 Not a wee team dig but I think Hibs will be lucky if they get 20,000 for the game with Barcelona. Murrayfield is grim as a football stadium and hasn't proved an atractive venue for this type of game and secondly Barcelona are not the crowd draw they used to be.
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busbyfh,

08/07/2008 13:36:19
Community award - And well deserved it is as well.
One of the few things we have to be proud of these days by being Jambos , is the effort put in from Tynie......Todays kids - tomorrows season ticket holders would be the cynical outlook - just trying to do the decent thing would maybe be the realistic one.
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GrahamL,

08/07/2008 13:39:19
#75 Round of applause for that man!
There's some good things about Vlads regime (the business side, the community work) and some bad things (interfering with the team, lack of communication).
Fact is most fans are happy with good things, upset with the bad things. Your overall view depends on how much weight you give each component.
To me, the most important thing is the results on the pitch. And Vlads meddling means that they haven't been good enough. Therefore I'm not happy with Vlad overall, while the good things are nice to have to me they don't make up for the poor results. I assume that those who remain happy with Vlad put more weight on the good things than I do.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:39:55
#93

Yes i think that is in order too.

A big well done to Hearts on that front and before I am called a sheep or a BELIEVER or whatever I am refering to the Community award and nothing else.

HHGH
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howmuchforthedodgemsmate,

08/07/2008 13:41:12
81* ffs two thirds full
That would mean around 45k
That wont happen

Wee Team

Wee Crowd

:-d
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hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 13:41:38
#92

I think we'll manage over 20K like I said but as you say its not a "wee team" thing in all honesty its to do with a number of other factors.

Maintain the game should have been played at ER as soon as it was known it was going to be on a Thursday. If theres less than 20k at it I'll feel vindicated in that, if theres nearer 30K then whoever decided to hire out Murrayfield will be right I s'pose..
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Pele,

08/07/2008 13:44:41
Above caption.

Ah well thats me got 95%,
total control.
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hibbyspurs,

08/07/2008 13:45:22
#96
You utter fool... Cant you read ya nob?

Quote from #81 "I have said all along that we would have been better playing them at ER in front of a sell out instead of a most likely half to two thirds empty Murrayfield."

Where do I say "two thirds Full"? Ohh thats right I didnt.... Learn to read please before making an utter tw&t of yourselve please...

For "wee team" read "wee brain" in your case....

Now shush the big boys & girls are talking.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:46:11
#97

I think Hearts made just over 1 million from that game as was suggested in the papers... It would be in the interests of any of the Hibs fans who helped us rake that in to make damn sure they attend Murrayfield when it is there own team playing.

We were subject to A LOT of Hibs fans telling us that they were going to that game and that all their mates were to and that is why it was a sell out... i would hate to think that they would be happy to earn our club some money and not their own...
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:47:48
#98

Pele,

but how can he have 95% cent control if we are still in 36 mil debt???

Do make your mind up or just give it up as you are clearly a bit slow.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:50:20
Caption.

"Have you a read Pele's posts?... He ees so seely"
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Gorgie's Finest,

08/07/2008 13:50:40
#100

Wasnt the Hearts Barca clash televised live as well? so there was extra TV revenue, that would have been added to that figure, Im not sure if there is any plans to show the Hibs barca
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Ironing Maiden,

08/07/2008 13:51:04
#79 So tell me what is wrong with a Manager who selects their own players?

So 'duds from Eastern Europe' is incorrect? Do you honestly beleive that this method is the best way ahead from Hearts?

And no Im not avoiding the question - Im just amazed how defeated you are by hinding behind your condesending comments and high tolerance of Romanov and if my head is up my backside yours is clearly in the sand. Pathetic.
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 13:52:05
#103

Could have been actually... All the more reason for every Hibs fan who is able to go, to do so then I would say.
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Bhoyed,

Back in the Capitol 08/07/2008 13:54:47
#90 & #91

I take your point, but Burley was only in charge for 11-12 games(ish). Was it not the case that you were over achieving during this spell and you were always going to have a dip?
I also think that you may need to let go of what you done that year as it was not the norm and looks unlikely to be repeated.

I am not having a dig, as I and many other Celtic fans did cast an "interested" eye towards the start you made.

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Gorgie's Finest,

08/07/2008 13:56:23
#105

Old stuff again, but Id like to see for one game a year anyway for the rivalries put aside and the return of the old edinburgh select. We now have a stdium that can be used as a neutral venue for an edinburgh select side, which if a match against say Barca or Real Madrid, Man Utd. Chelsea, AC Milan and so on were arranged would sell out and be a bit of a spectacle for the fans, somethng to have us all talking about and then debating about later as we sit in the pubs saying who was rubbish and this and that player should have played etc
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The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

08/07/2008 13:58:51
Probably 6000,7000 for the hobos v barca landslide. I'm betting it will be an angry barca after the meek season they had and will run riot even if it a friendly against the schoolboys.

What are the odds on mixu getting the bullet before the season kicks off??
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Jamboy,

Edinburgh 08/07/2008 14:02:03
#106

You may not be having a dig but and this is not intentionaly an insult... That is just the sort of arrogance that infuriates most non-Old Firm fans.

We were not over achieving in my opinion under Burley but instead we were watching the result when a good manager is left in charge of a team with better players on it's books than ALL the other teams in it's league.

We started to under achieve as soon as the managment system decended into a complete farce and the players were left to turn on each other.

You just have to look at the players and Manager and what they have done since those days to see that they were in a different class to what we have now with only a couple of exceptions... Jules' less than impressive career path is the glaring but rare exception.