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Published Date: 21 November 2008
TOP-FLIGHT clubs which default on payments to their players or to the tax authorities could be subject to discipline by their own ruling body from next year, if proposals by the board of the Scottish Premier League (SPL) are agreed.
The board of the SPL has agreed to press ahead with plans to introduce new financial controls into their membership criteria, and their proposals will be put to the quarterly general meeting of their 12 clubs in January. A two-thirds majority will be
required for any such proposal to be passed.

The wording of the proposals has yet to be finalised, and there have as yet been no discussions regarding what sanctions the SPL might take against offending clubs. Rather than taking a punitive approach, however, the league aims to adopt rules which help bring about an all-round improvement in clubs' financial stability.

"The new criteria will require all member clubs to provide additional financial information to the SPL prior to each season," Iain Blair, the league's company secretary, said. "No system of this nature is foolproof, but our aim is to ensure that all our clubs have the financial stability needed to complete any given season."

An SPL spokesman explained that the "additional financial information" they had in mind included the lodging of clubs' audited accounts and of any interim financial statements. The planned ruling on non-payment, he added, could include sums which were overdue to players and other employees, to HM Revenue and Customs, and to other clubs.

The proposals have been made by a working group which included several representatives of the dozen clubs. The group was set up in June, primarily as a reaction to the demise of Gretna FC, where the withdrawal of funding led to players and others going unpaid. At one stage, it looked as if Gretna would be unable to fulfil their fixtures during what turned out to be their first and only season in the SPL.

More recently, employees of Hearts did not receive their wages on time. Given the relative slowness with which Scottish football is administered, however, it is probable that many such temporary lapses would be resolved by the time an SPL panel got round to imposing sanctions.

Any agreed disciplinary procedures, then, appear more likely to apply to longer-lasting cases of financial difficulties. And, instead of being automatically punitive in such cases, the SPL appears willing to take a supportive approach if at all possible.

The sooner it learns of any problems such as those which affected Gretna, for example, the sooner the league might be able to offer assistance. There has been no discussion yet of the establishment of contingency funds to help bail out indebted clubs, but a conciliation service could be a lot easier – and of course cheaper – to implement.

Nor has there been any talk about introducing rules governing the probity of club owners. The suitability to run a club of individuals such as the former Manchester City owner Thaksin Shinawatra has been a burning issue in English football over the past couple of years, but the SPL spokesman said that nothing of that or a similar nature had been debated by the working party. So far at least, then, such issues will remain the subject of longstanding legislation by the Scottish Football Association, and of course in more extreme cases by the law of the land.





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  • Last Updated: 20 November 2008 9:49 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Another Saturday Night,

21/11/2008 00:22:00
Good, at last action to be taken against Hearts.

Their scandalous behaviour should be dealt with severly.
2

Hibby Heapy,

21/11/2008 07:15:10
As much as I would like to think the beaks at
Mount Florida have it in for the Yams, the pace at which they work would probably mean any "temp" problems that happen will be resolved before the SPL/SFA can act.

Still anything that safe guards our game should be welcome. However I fear for Hertz as Mad Vlad may see this as yet another attack on him and pull the plug.

If that's the case, what next for the PBS... Tesco/Asda?

Any Jambos wish to contribute to this?
3

theviewfromgorgie,

21/11/2008 08:22:07
I'll bite, ya pair o halfwits.

#1 You just never ever tire of your own company do you?

#2 You had quite a good point sandwiched in between your usual PBS, yams...p*sh. Anything that protects the Scottish game is a good thing. Let's start by getting the Old Firm's 5% levy dropped!

"Sir" David is in the paper today, bleating once again about the lack of competition in Scotland.

How about you and Celtic stop hamstringing the rest and you might get more difficult games? Or is it just hot air as per usual?
4

Johnny Jambo,

21/11/2008 09:03:06
#2 Yes I dont mind contributing, this is not a "pop at Hearts" nor is it seen as such by us Hearts fans, it is a well meaning consideration to prevent the same situation as happened with gretna to happen again and should be welcomed by all of us.

If the rules are adhered to then no club should fear this and I am sure that Hearts, as others, will play by the rules and I am sure that if any club has a "financial blip" as has happened to most of them in the past not only Hearts, then as long as they are explained properly they will have nothing to fear.
5

Johnny Jambo,

21/11/2008 09:04:40
#2 and incidentally any explanations need only be done in Private not in public via the Media.
6

DirtyDeeds,

21/11/2008 09:31:46
Aye, Mount Florida mafia out to get the Lithuanian mafia. It's a conspiracy I tell ya!

GGTTH
7

Farmer Tom,

TRARALGON 21/11/2008 09:36:06
David Murray is an ar$e.
Do you hear of PSV and Ajax wanting to play in the Bundesliga?
Does Panathinaikos and Olympiakos denigrate their league and voice their ambition to join Serie A?
No... and No!
Kn0b!
8

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 09:52:34
what would the penalties include? fines, more money to the GFA. If a club is having financial difficulties then how would imposing a fine make it any better!! the only other option would be to deduct points!

i think there are bigger issues tainting scottish football that should be looked at first like the standard of refereeing or bigotry but in doing so the GFA may have to upset certain teams and officials so i dont think this would happen.

Just another way of the gfa trying to make cash out of unfortunate circumstances!

9

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 09:57:43
7, let them go i say but the EFA wouldnt let them go straight into the top flight and would have to start at the bottom, they would be a mediocre team in the championship and there is no guarantee of getting into the EPL as they would have to play on a level playing field with the help of the officials and wouldnt be able to get into europe due to not being english.

the silverwear chasers would crumble and the fans would desert them!
10

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 09:58:49
10 should say "without the help of the officials"
11

Big T,

21/11/2008 10:00:00
#9

I suggest you read Murrays "bleating" comments in the Scotsman today mate.

He is desperate to take Rangers into an English league but realises they have NO chance!
12

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 10:00:40
anyway the teams in the EPL have already voted and decided that they dont want two teams whos history is built on supporting terrorism and religous hatered!
13

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21/11/2008 10:18:38
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Johnny Jambo,

21/11/2008 10:18:51
MTG - I dont see any mention of penalties in the report, however you are right it would be innappropriate to fine clubs who are in financial difficulties. I do think the Points deduction idea is a good one because it would have more of an impact in ensuring clubs do all they can to operate within the financial guidelines.
15

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21/11/2008 10:19:09
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Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 10:20:00
after the shamefull way the fans behaved in manchester there is absolutely no chance they would be allowed anyway!

even murray wants rid of the hvns but cant find anyone foolish enough to buy them so why is he spouting on in the media!

tesco for ibrox 2011
17

G,

dndy 21/11/2008 10:24:09
Clubs who have already defaulted on tax, wages or VAT are already in the doodah....if this idea prevents financial over-reaching by ambitious or foolish clubs then it might be worthwhile.. but if it comes from the SPL it will probably be cr*p.....
18

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 10:25:55
16 JJ, the only powers the GFA hold would be a points deduction OR a fine BUT how could they possibly comment on the way the clubs are run when they cant even run their own organisation properly. you only need to look at the fact the top two teams in their premier competition dont even want to be there!
19

Farmer Tom,

TRARALGON 21/11/2008 10:27:46
What's the story on McGeady gettng a bruising?
Just seen some stuff on Setanta but not seen it anywhere else.

#9... Mooooooo
20

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 10:55:56
17 & 22

So please enlighten us as to how "Britain's biggest" club are getting on in europe's biggest club footballing competition!
21

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 11:36:24
oh im sorry did you not maybe understand the question i will repeat....

how are "Britain's biggest" club CURRENTLY getting on in europe's biggest club footballing competition!

re: Despite the financial implications of playing in the SPL, Rangers still reached a Euro final last season.
Well what a good job your team did there, oh and then there was the fans..................

FWIW romanov is nuttier than a bag of cashews!!
22

Few Against Many,

21/11/2008 12:37:26
24, What happened?


There Chairman decided to go dancing instead of pick the team for the ever changing goon ‘in charge.’ Without Romanov’s sheer sporting know how Hearts have been doomed. If Scotland's recent form is anything to go by it was Romanov that was behind the early success and not Dode Burley.

Hearts fans are the most delusional in the country. It does not matter how many times they get a Lithuanian boot in the puss they always seem to think they are turning a corner. Newsflash boys you appear to be on some kind of square roundabout!

Laughable outfit.
23

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 21/11/2008 13:10:28
Murray is bleating on about they cant compete against the big English/European teams because they dont have the same finances and then he complains that there is no competition in Scotland. Why does he think that is? Could it be because the other teams dont have the same finances as the "big two"? Rangers are based in Scotland and will just have to get on with it. Shame if they dont like it.
24

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 21/11/2008 13:16:21
With regard to the story:- How will this prevent a repeat of Gretna? Gretna were promoted to the SPL by being promoted from lower leagues, fully in accordance with league rules. There were no financial problems with them when they were promoted to the SPL as far as I am aware.
25

A Jambo come rain or shine,

21/11/2008 13:21:16
#27 Exactly what i was thinking - they moan about the unfairness of the finances betweeen them and the rest of Europe and then buy Scottish players from other SPL clubs on the cheap, don't play them and complain that there's no challenge!?!?
#14 Funny how SDM suggests that Celtic have managed the media - pot and kettle there i think!
26

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21/11/2008 13:36:29
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AJ Fife,

21/11/2008 13:45:20
loads of juicy Rangers stories and we can't comment on them. It's a disgrace!!

Anyway, this'll do for now, so does the Rangers Chairman realise Coisty might've humped a catholic lass or two in his time?

I wonder if Murray and old bushy whiskers have thought about that?
28

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21/11/2008 13:54:53
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Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 13:59:58
nrrrrgggggg aaaaaaargh, nope i have to say it, i agree with royalty #33!
people like AJ are the reason why the old firm fans cant comment on articles. the guy is an inbread tube who has probably never set foot in ipox yet parades around in his union jack cap and engerland shellsuit!

#32 yer mummy is calling so maybe you had better get back in before the snow starts!
30

AJ Fife,

21/11/2008 14:16:20
#36,

How can someone miss the point by quite so much? Must be those maroon tinted glasses! :D

31

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 14:39:46
38
makes no point sausagejockey there is no need to be mentioning religon!
32

AJ Fife,

21/11/2008 15:07:17
#39,

I declare you to be the 'thickest poster' on the Scotsman message boards!

Make sure you get the hook oot yer gub, ya tube.
33

AJ Fife,

21/11/2008 15:45:12
#42,

What is it with all you Old Firm bozos? Has the years of sectarian indoctrination meant your sense of humour is totally numb?

Mind you, watching the cluggers from Ibrox, week in week out, would cause most people to lose their marbles, never mind their sense of humour!
34

Maroon tinted glasses,

21/11/2008 16:54:38
AJ

i understand it was meant to be a tongue in cheek comment BUT there is still no need to bring religon into it, maybe its been all the inbreeding that has affected you BUT tongue in cheek or not leave that sort of crrapp to the weegies and their unwashed legions!
35

santa cova,

London 21/11/2008 21:01:38
#43 AJ

You never lost your expertise in dealing with those ipox knuckledraggers. Well done to you old boy!

I am your obedient servant. Santa Cova.
36

John H,

edinburgh 21/11/2008 21:46:38
Story on another thread.
Hearts players not paid again.
As far as I can make out this would seem to be true.
Where do they go from here.

 

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