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Tannadice can help to keep Barca in check - Levein



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Published Date: 26 July 2008
THE question is not a new one at Tannadice Park, and neither has it proved unsolvable. But Hibs' troubles on Thursday night bring a fresh frame of reference, and also urgency, to the dilemma of how to stop Barcelona, with United next in line to tackle the Catalan giants this afternoon.
That they face them their own lair may help, as might the recollection of past deeds. United's current record stands at four wins in five meetings against Barcelona with one loss.

Jerry Kerr and Jim McLean were faced by great odds when their United sides met the might of Barcelona in the 60s and 80s, and trashed expectations with wins in both home and away legs.

But they did not have to deal with a pint-sized phenomenon called Lionel Messi, and neither did Craig Levein on Barcelona's last visit to Tayside.

United lost 1-0 last summer, against a team packed to the gunnels with such talent as Ronaldinho and Thierry Henry. But Messi has brought something new to the team, as has new manager Pep Guardiola. "He has his own way of working," revealed Xavi, the Barcelona midfielder, yesterday. "He demands a lot from the players. We work hard for him."

The class of 1987 means something different to Barcelona than United. At Tannadice it refers to the heroes who went to the Nou Camp and succeeded in not only defending a 1-0 Uefa Cup first-leg lead, but added to it. This '87 vintage included the likes of David Narey, Paul Hegarty and Paul Sturrock, and has been described as perhaps the last, great native-born club side from Scotland.

At the Nou Camp, too, they have reason to celebrate this particular year, despite the humbling by United in the quarter-finals of the Uefa Cup. In June 1987 Lionel Andres Messi was born in Rosario, an unglamorous industrial town 200 miles north-west of Buenos Aires. Just over 21 years later he arrives in Dundee, fresh from a cameo display against Hibs which will remain in the memory of all who watched it.

Among this number is included Craig Levein, who caught the match on television at home. Also viewing the action from an armchair, and while presumably in an agitated state, were Danny Grainger and Paul Dixon. One of these men will be charged with the task of stopping Messi this afternoon. Or perhaps Levein, having observed Hibs defender Paul Hanlon's plight on Thursday, is contemplating fielding the pair of them.

"The two left-backs came in this morning with tight hamstrings," a remarkably relaxed Levein said yesterday with a smile. "I enjoyed (the match v Hibs]. Barcelona played fantastically well. They are a joy to watch when they are in full flow."

The trouble is, were they even in full flow against Hibs? Probably not, agreed Levein. "It is a warning for us," he continued. "We will have to work extremely hard. And we will need to keep possession of the ball when we get it or we will be chasing our tails for 90 minutes."

This will certainly be true if they allow Messi to see as much of the ball as against Hibs, though Levein is reluctant to make any special plans to deal with the striker.

Deploying two men against Messi, he reasoned, would simply free up space for other players to exploit. With Messi off the park on Thursday, Barcelona still managed to strike twice, and might have had more.

"If the team were only about that one player it would have to be a consideration (double-marking]," he said. "But there are so many players in the team that have that little bit of magic dust that can win a game.

"I don't have enough players to put two on them all. We want to get something out of the game as well, not just fitness. We want to keep possession, and that is something we have stressed. They are a good pressing team. They press the ball higher up the pitch than they did last year."

The fact Messi is with Barcelona this time around – he missed last year's Scottish tour games due to international commitments – led Levein to brand them even more dangerous. "His presence alone gives them that little bit extra," he said.

He sympathised with Hibs, pointing out that they were playing in an environment – Murrayfield – than was more alien to them than even Barcelona. "One thing that we will have as an advantage over Hibs is that we are at home," said Levein. "It was like an away game for Hibs. Our pitch is a bit tighter, the players are more comfortable in their surroundings."

Levein has lost Noel Hunt and Barry Robson from the team which performed so creditably against Barcelona last July, but he is confident he now has a more balanced side. His options, for one thing, have improved dramatically, with Francesco Sandaza, Warren Feeney, Andis Shala and Jon Daly all vying for places up front today. Last July, Levein recalled with something approaching a shudder, he only had one fit striker available to him – Hunt .

"We are progressing well," he said, when asked to judge his team. "But until we start the season we never know. One of the worst seasons I ever had was at Hearts, after we had a really good pre-season and won a load of matches.

"Pre-season does not give any indication of how the season is going to go. But I think the players we have this season now have a year of experience under their belts, the younger ones in particular. They have played alongside each other for a while and I think we have added a bit of quality to the team. I feel that the club is moving in the right direction and the players we have brought in will impact instantly."

Scott Robertson, the former Dundee captain, will make his home debut this afternoon, with Levin certain about eight of his 11 starters. He appeared far from crushed by anxiety at the task ahead. After all, Barcelona are the ones with the catching up to do.


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1

Richardinho,

26/07/2008 00:08:34
I can see United going all out to avoid the kind of heavy defeat that Hibs suffered in a rather hopeless attempt to prove that they can 'still compete' against them.
20 years ago a United side outclassed Barcelona and proved their superiority, but there's no doubt which is the better team today and that is Barcelona regardless of what the result is this afternoon.
Class is not determined in pre seasons friendlies, and DU should save their energy for the SPL which is the only place that they can begin to show that they can reach the heights they reached back in the 80s.
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jerrymanders,

26/07/2008 00:32:13
Hopefully they will get a neutral referee for this game.
3

jerrymanders,

26/07/2008 01:15:04
#4

Aye, right.....ask Levein.
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KingKenny,

26/07/2008 01:17:44
Dundee have sign many good players. but Kalvenes and Mark Kerr, Noel Hunt leave..I hope Dundee utd prove SPL Level. Good Luck Levein and Dundee utd players.
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jerrymanders,

26/07/2008 01:26:22
#7

Aye, right.
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Richardinho,

26/07/2008 01:29:01
#7 yeah, all referees are neutral, except with Celtic when they favour them-aye right!
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Richardinho,

26/07/2008 01:42:38
Does include German refs?
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Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 26/07/2008 01:43:00
2/If you were Levein he would do the right thing and shoot himself.Why do you feel the need to comment on evry thing on here?Do you think anybody reads or takes on board what you type?Give us all a break and go on holiday to Glasgow you deserve each other.
Anyway rant at pr**k over,I think that the games v Barca are a scam.Its great to see world class players in the flesh and all that but I think Hibs and Hearts were both under orders not to put the boot in when required.Nobody will come out and say this because they know we will not pay £20 to £30 notes to see what is a training game.
It was good to the hibbies getting a real good tanning having said that.
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Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 26/07/2008 01:59:24
13/Please please stay there and watch Scotlands disgrace and comment on them,oh wait a moment you and your fellow scum cannot be trusted to comment on the Davis story ect.
Why not? You cannot comment on the threads about your own team because......youve got it you are scum who cant be trusted.Now move on to the Daily Ranger site and give us a break.
Thank you.Nite Nite.
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Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 26/07/2008 02:24:10
15/Look pal Im sorry If your a poor lonely soul in a Glasgow high rise.
I dont want you to jump out a window but you have got see the the big picture.
You have made it clear you are a Rangers fan,thats ok none of us are perfect.You want to comment with your wit and insight on all things on all teams.
How do I get OF threads closed down?I type if I think I have something to say and all Im asking is for you to do the same.
Now Im off to bed having been out for a few pints,(you should try this and meet or make some mates)
No more from me tonight Nite Nite.
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Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 05:06:25
For once I actually agree with Pundit.

These forums are not exclusive. They are free and open to anyone and everyone who wishes to comment.

These embra punters are really showing up their small town mentality with all this "beat it these are oor wee boards" mentality.

If everything in life was like some of these daft edinbuggers think, then I suppose you'd say "nae drinkin in here this is oor pub" or "nae reading this newspaper you're no fae here" or "Dinnae buy yer groceries in this shoap unless ye comfy here"

Get a life edinbuggers, this is the 21st century we have freedom of speech and a big world wide to contemplate. Get out of your small town, insular mentality and listen for a change instead of trying to pointscore with petty remarks about someone's location.

I guess I will get a few "back to weegieland" comments. However I am a resident of Hampstead in London so don't waste your time with those kind of silly remarks.

Funny but I actually think some of the Hertz fans are worse than Losers Rangers fans.
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26/07/2008 06:42:04
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bring them on,

26/07/2008 06:57:51
DU, heads up and hope you can play play a good Scottish game to take Barca to the wire.

Please, no holding back, go for it!

I'm shouting for the local team.
14

bring them on,

26/07/2008 06:59:28
Idee

I hope DU give Barca a game to remember.

Forget this holding back stuff. For the DU players, a one off. Hope they live up to it.
15

Scoop in the City,

26/07/2008 07:48:10
#19 - Well said. Everyone with the slightest knowledge of the game can see the refereeing bias toward Celtic and Rangers - Rev McCurry's antics in both the wee and big cup last year are only the latest example. It has been going on for years and will continue as long as the SFA succumb to the weegia - and their natural allegiances.

How would OF fans feel if they were subjected to similar bias when they play in Europe?
16

bring them on,

26/07/2008 08:01:13
#22

Scoop

The refs stuff is old hat.

Can we not move on to thinking about a good game with loads of hard tackles, and goals.
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Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 08:24:32
23

Why did the ref stuff his old hat?

Also tis difficult to move when hard tackles are coming at you from all angles.
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Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 08:25:13
22

Away back to your edinbugger threads - instead of polluting this one.
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26/07/2008 08:29:03
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bring them on,

26/07/2008 08:32:04
Tim

I am hoping DU put on a decent performance.

The cocky Barca need a good game. The wee hard but fair tackle would help, IMO

21

bring them on,

26/07/2008 08:37:14
Idee, mate

The ref stuff will never go away. Agree with you there.

I have to say that I think the Scottish refs are no that bad (personal opinion).

Switch to Scotland for a moment. The England game was always a loser, and refs were never on our side.

It's part of the game, but....a good side will over come that. Given time, or just being too good on the day.

22

FC Barcelona,

26/07/2008 08:55:32
I hope all the Dundee Utd fans and neutrals going to this game appreciate a truly world class football club, the likes of which we rarely see in Scotland.
23

bring them on,

26/07/2008 08:56:54
#29

And DU to win 2-1
24

Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 09:05:07
29

Disagree, Celtic are a world class football club and every one in Scotland should appreciate it.
25

Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 09:08:17
31

If a ref blatently cheats I think a manager is within in his rights to say so.

Otherwise all we have is a corrupt stinking league.

Levien was right to bring it all out, it's disappointing that none of the other managers have the guts to stand up for what is right.
26

Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 09:21:09
34

WGS - The Golden One, Dr Reid and Peter the great also have a mountain of evidence against corrupt refs - that would be insurmountable in a court of law. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't start using it if the cheating doesn't stop.

Next season every bluenose (anti-celtic) ref will be under the microscope.

Last season I personally presented Celtic a dossier of evidence highlighting the poor decisions that went against Celtic. I will be doing the same this season. We've being cheated for over a century but it's all going to stop, Losers Rangers will have to start winning competitions fairly and squarely.

27

Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 09:27:30
35

True.

But Levien never went as far as calling McCurry a cheat.

He mentioned the incidents, he vented his fury. He said he felt United had been cheated, but he stopped short of actually calling McCurry a cheat. If I recall correctly he said "the ref didn't want to make the decisions because of what it meant to Rangers"

Now you can read into that any which way.

Was McCurry scared? Did he lack courage?

Was he incompetent?

Did the crowd sway him?

I will openly admit, if I was a ref I would be bias. I believe everyone has a bias of some sort in them. So being a ref is a hard job but Rangers fans should not be refereeing Rangers (or Celtic) games and Celtic fans should not be refereeing Celtic (or Rangers) games. There is bias and it should be addressed sooner rather than later.
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26/07/2008 09:51:36
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culturedvultureofarabia,

Belfast 26/07/2008 09:53:55
Barca beware of Swanildhinio!!!
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26/07/2008 10:12:50
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Timothy Malloy fan of the champions,

26/07/2008 10:41:21
JR

You paint a comical scenario BUT and it's a big BUT...there is no precedent. ie. levien has not gone to court and has not won or lost anything - in effect no case has surfaced. So therefore there is no precedent.

So next season will be same old same old.

Now before you go off on one think about similar cases...i.e...where a manager has doen one thing and gone unreported or unpunished and another manager has done exactly the same thing and been hammered. Think about the leaving the park when a goal is scored. A few seasons ago...VofH was sent off up at Inverness after scoring in the last minute - yet When Boyd Scored v Celtic a few seasons ago - he ran off the park and all his teammates followed to celebrate with McCoist and Smith who had also left the coaches zone. What happened? Zilch. Any report? Naw. Any caution? Naw...then when Dean Shiels was booked for leaving the park a few weeks later he was booked. Did Hibs and Shiels threaten court action based on the precedent that Rangers players got off with leaving the pitch? Er Naw...why? Well because no case against Rangers was raised at the time. No case, No precedent.

SFA/SPL in the clear. Swept under the carpet, Start afresh.

But evidence is mounting.
32

Daillyman,

26/07/2008 13:18:32
Tamas demands 20k a week in wages from the Celtic, he is offered 14k, the players agent reports he will settle for 16k, the deal is off,,

16k for Tamas with his reputation seems to be good business.

RFC refuse to pay Shittu, a championship level player, 20k and are slagged all over the threads.

Wondering why the Celtic supporters have been so quiet regarding what was supposed to be a "done" deal just last weekend.

33

bring them on,

26/07/2008 14:32:48
Get through, I think.

Boyd will be the saviour
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26/07/2008 16:29:34
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CALEDONIACO,

The Emerald City 26/07/2008 18:24:00
Daillyman, Possibly as it come from a press that no one trusts and CFC have imposed a curfew on them. So how are we to know if that is a fact? In addition, which one of Tama's agent's was doing the talking for him?
I think Mr. Lowell got fed up with dealing with a bunch of amateur unprofessional agent's, just my opinion.
Shouldn’t you be out golfing? I can't go on my motorbike today as I promised my foreign wife that I would take her to the Enumclaw highland games.
Did you get my post telling you that I have family in Lakeshore and Mississauga?

Have a good one and...

4 In a row coming your way!

 

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