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Published Date: 05 July 2009
NEW Hibs manager John Hughes has warned supporters he does not have a "pot of gold" to spend on new signings ahead of the new season, despite the £3 million sale of Steven Fletcher.
Fletcher finally sealed his dream move to the English Premier League when he penned a four-year deal with Owen Coyle's Burnley this week.

However, after seeing finances apparently rule him out of a bid to replace Fletcher with Sunderland's Anthony
Stokes, Hughes has admitted he is unlikely to see much of the windfall.

He said: "I'll say this to the fans, 'just because we sold Steven Fletcher, everybody thinks there's a big pot of gold. It's not like that'.

"We are still building the infrastructure at the club, doing things at the training centre and there are plans to develop the stadium.

"But I've got a good working relationship with the board of directors and if there is something I want to do I'm sure they would help me."

On his appointment, Hughes insisted he wanted to hang on to Fletcher and work with the Scotland striker in the coming season.

However, he has acknowledged the offer from Burnley – and the player's desire to head south – made it impossible for the club to retain the 22-year-old's services.

He added: "Yes, we wanted to keep him, but you have to look after the business and when we were getting what we thought was a good price for Steven we had to take it. He goes with our best wishes."

Pompey eye Fortune

CELTIC's long-standing bid to lure Marc-Antoine Fortune to Parkhead could be hijacked by Portsmouth.

Pompey officials flew to Nancy this weekend to have talks with both the club and the player.

And Fortune looks set to turn his back on a move to the SPL or Hull City and join Paul Hart's side instead.

Fortune spent last season on loan to Tony Mowbray's West Brom and the new Hoops boss has admitted the £3.5 million transfer fee would blow a large hole in his budget for new players.

Hartley 'lived the dream'

PAUL HARTLEY is content he "lived the dream" for two-and-a-half years as he prepares to leave Celtic Park.

The 32-year-old is expected to sign for Bristol City tomorrow after holding talks with Robins boss Gary Johnson last week.

The Scotland midfielder was told by new Celtic boss Tony Mowbray he was surplus to requirements but there was no hint of bitterness on Hartley's part.

"I had a terrific spell there," Hartley told BBC Scotland.

"I won every trophy that there was to play for. All good things come to an end.

"What most sticks in my memory is the game at Tannadice in the last game of season 2007-08 where we clinched the league. I was fortunate that Gordon Strachan gave me the opportunity to live that dream and I just savoured every day I was at the club."





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  • Last Updated: 04 July 2009 7:22 PM
  • Source: Scotland On Sunday
  • Location: Scotland
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

Cammy,

Edinburgh 05/07/2009 00:16:23
Fortune not coming, I wonder what Shataram's story will be today. Ahh the lure of the OF works it's magic again. :-).

Don't worry John Hughes, us Hibbies never suspected that you would get any of the cash. A new stand, a new boardroom table, perhaps some crystal glasses for the drinks cupboard. It's like painting forth road bridge you think that it's finished and then you're start all over again.

The only good thing is that we know we will continue to produce yet more talented youngsters to play for the magical Hibees. Until of course we sell them for our next project. Give me strength.....

While the Chief.
2

Daillyman,

05/07/2009 02:16:07
2 Cammy

He will spin it much the same way as his previous world exclusive. "Why would we spend 3.8mil on a player who averages a goal every 4 matches" The tic did the right thing in not signing the player. lol!
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Cammy,

Edinburgh 05/07/2009 02:40:43
#2 Possibly, but I have to say I'm warming to Shataram.

He's almost never right, but always has a story to suggest that the rest of us are "out of the loop" and can't see the bigger picture.

You've got to admire that dedication to appear in control, when he's really just another passenger like the rest of us.

That's probably why I like him, he's just that little bit more mental than your average supporter. :-)
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05/07/2009 04:36:53
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05/07/2009 04:52:40
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Cammy,

Edinburgh 05/07/2009 06:39:50
#5 SS, sorry that our situation is so difficult for you to cope with, but please don't worry.

There will always be quality players at ER, and quality football will always be played.

We have come from being heavily in debt to owning everything outright, including our own training academy. There is hardly a club in the SPL in as good a position as Hibs.

Of course not every club likes to do it this way. Some prefer to ignore the reality of their situation. This is known as the "Ostrich plan".
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 05/07/2009 07:54:31
#6. More delusional rubbish.
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my chosen name is not available...,

05/07/2009 08:04:17
#6 "There will always be quality players at ER, and quality football will always be played."

You obviously didn't watch Hibs during the 80s, 90s and much of the last couple of years. As you said yourself - "Some prefer to ignore the reality of their situation."
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my chosen name is not available...,

05/07/2009 08:13:19
#6 "There is hardly a club in the SPL in as good a position as Hibs."

Given that you are in the best financial position in the league, have the 5th richest SPL club owner and fifth best attendances, play the best football, and have an unlimited supply of young players, would you mind telling us when exactly Hibs will start punching their weight in the league and actually, you know, make a challenge to the OF and contribute something? You've left that to Hearts, Aberdeen and Dundee Utd for rather a long time.

Seriously, it's about time... and it sounds like there's no time like now. No pressure or anything...
11

Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 08:37:48
#1 Cammy

Agreed that no one was expecting Hughes to be given a sizable chunk of the transfer but will be given moderate support for any targets although I don't quite see it as "like painting forth road bridge" - that's for the cars, muck ;-).

#9,10 my chosen name is

"You've left that to Hearts, Aberdeen and Dundee Utd for rather a long time."

I think you'll find Aberdeen and United actually won the league, didn't bottle it on the last day of the season.








12

RolIand,

05/07/2009 08:51:42
No pot of gold! Miser Petrie and Sir Tom of Farmer have trousered the cash...
13

my chosen name is not available...,

05/07/2009 09:01:49
#11 Keywords - "challenge" and "punching their weight". Hibs are the biggest underachievers in our league and no amount of guff about "playing football the right way" and "style more important than points" can hide that, particularly as style and playing the right way have only been in evidence on a consistent basis for a couple of the last 20-odd seasons.
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Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 10:03:32
#14

Reason no posts allowed so feejits like you can't dribble their Rantic haverings. Go away, you're not welcome here.


#12

ARF!

and

NURSE!

I don't normally entertain you Roly, with good reason, but here goes, I'll give you chance here.......

In recent seasons Hibs have reduced debt by around £13M and built the training centre. That is where money has gone.

With me so far?

Last accounted season Hearts had £24M in transfer fees and debt for equity deal yet reduced debt by only £6M.

Agreed?

Please explain.


#13

I'll agree that in many seasons Hibs league positions have been unacceptable but as to "punching their weight", disregarding Rantic and the Mighty Jambos that leaves Hibs and Aberdeen pretty much equal for 4/5 in Scotland and I don't think there's a great of difference between them in league positions until mixu took over.

As for the FFF, 4 or 5 seasons out of last 10 or so
( Mcleish and Mowbray )have been characterised by adventurous football not the 2 out of 20odd you allege.



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Private Pike,

05/07/2009 10:56:37
Come on Rolland. Now's your' chance.

With one reply (To Abes' question to you) you can redefine yoursel as a serious player on these threads.

So don't disappear. Everyone knows you read the question.

Answer it.
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my chosen name is not available...,

05/07/2009 11:24:35
#15 And using your selective reasoning, Hearts have won the Scottish Cup twice in 10 years - a pretty decent record.

"that leaves Hibs and Aberdeen pretty much equal for 4/5 in Scotland"

Very wrong. The stats are freely available. Hibs are sixth in the all-time SPL table - behind Kilmarnock and not very far above Motherwell. Hearts are third by a good distance.

That's what I mean about underperforming. Not only that but you are the only team from the top 5 richest clubs to have been relegated in recent memory - narrowly missing out on relegation another two times and only being saved by rule changes. And I haven't even mentioned your Scottish Cup and derby record.

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Neil69,

Edinburgh 05/07/2009 11:24:51
Where has Hibs money gone? The debts were cleared over 2 years ago.

Not on players, not on a new stand.

Who took it?

19

Private Pike,

05/07/2009 11:28:00
Abe

I blame you. You know that Rolland does not have the intellectual equipment to deal with comments like yours and so he runs and hides.

"The Gorgie Boys are in Town" does exactly the same.

So take it easy on them.

20

huggs,

05/07/2009 11:33:38
So Hughes has a good relationship with the board?He has only been there a month.
Seems like Yogi is the latest in Hibs doormat managers.

Your not getting any money,OK thats fine.
At least Collins had the backbone to walk out when he was told no money was avaliable.

At least Hibs are debt free though thats a good thing.

I always have trouble explaining that to my son.

Dad why are Hibs garbage? Look son even though they win nothing and have no ambition they are debt free.
Son,So

You Hobos just dont get it do you!
Get a backbone get it sorted

HHGH in debt and winning

21

Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 11:41:50
#17

My "selective reasoning" was answering a point you made. You said 2/20odd i refuted by saying 5/10. All reasoning has to be selective to a certain degree, anyway.

Ok, Hibs shouldn't be behind Kilmarnock in the all-time SPL table, agreed.

Scottish Cup - yup, yup, yup

Derby record - check the stats for last 10 years ( a fair rule of thumb for recent history I'd say and as you quote above for hearts SC wins ). Not much in it, really, is there?

And anyway, why do you care so much?
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Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 11:45:39
Pike

Thought i'd give him one more chance.

Looks like we'll just need to stick to

NURSE!!!
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Private Pike,

05/07/2009 11:46:28
Huggs.

"The manager has a good relationship with the board". This is something that supporters of every team would welcome.

Apart from Hearts?

Should Csaba walk away because he isn't getting any money?

It has been explained to Hughes where the Fletcher money is going. Spending money on the training ground and helping to finance the building of the east Stand.

Was Csaba, or anyone else, given an explanation by Vlad of where the cash that Hearts received in transfer monies went to?



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huggs,

05/07/2009 11:51:46
23 Csaba not getting money?
We have just made another signing a Polish defender.Csaba's net goes far unlike Yogi's

So are you happy having a lovely training ground which you will never set foot in a new stand which will never be full and a team of Falkirk fringe players?
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05/07/2009 11:58:23
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05/07/2009 12:01:41
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my chosen name is not available...,

05/07/2009 12:02:27
#21 "And anyway, why do you care so much?"

I enjoy debunking myths. And the "Hibs way" flair talk and nonsense about their rightful place being 4th or 5th (or even 3rd from some poor, deluded souls) when they have no record of being that good, are two of the biggest myths in Scottish football. Hibs need to consistently finish 3rd or 4th over the next few years to even start talking in those terms - and as the most financially secure club in the land, there's no time like the present to start.
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05/07/2009 12:11:14
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05/07/2009 12:19:59
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Private Pike,

05/07/2009 12:27:19
Barking Mad

Hasn't occurred to you yet?

Nobody's interested.

Go away.
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Neutral Observer,

05/07/2009 12:27:37
#14 barking mad (sic)

Hving reread the Andrew Smith piece about possible captaincy at Celtic, I have to ask the question of you, 'what the **** are you on about?'

Nowhere in this article, stated or implied, is there any semblance of an attack on Mowbray or the beginnngs of a campaign to undermine him or have him fail.

Paranoia in the extreme here I would surmise!
32

forfoxsake,

05/07/2009 12:37:54
# did you also tell your son about the lack of backbone hiding behind a pc and tryin to rip the sh*te out of folk.Oh dear.
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forfoxsake,

05/07/2009 12:38:36
#20 did you also tell your son about the lack of backbone hiding behind a pc and tryin to rip the sh*te out of folk.Oh dear.
34

huggs,

05/07/2009 12:40:07
No lack of backbone here
Say it to your face no worries saying it how it is thats all
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Backofthenet,

05/07/2009 13:06:12
"Its with little wonder that posters are not permitted to comment on journalist Andrew Smiths story.

Its clear that he is al"ready" aiming at Tony Mowbray and hoping beyond all hope that he is a tremendous failure.
This is despite Tony Mowbray not having yet been in charge of Celtic for even one game.

Journalist Andrew Smith, even at this super-early stage, has nailed his red white and blue colurz to the mazt with his hatred of Tony Mowbray deliberately laid bear." (#14)

Andrew Smith is a former editor of the Celtic View. Is he really in on the big evil conspiracy against poor downtrodden wee Celtic? :0)
37

busbyfh,

05/07/2009 13:18:41
"We have a good one at last - this Polish guy is a keeper".
Gone.
"Aye - the Motherwell boy Smith will be a decent addition".
Ta ta.
"Ah well - at least Hughes is bring Malo - he's a good goalie"
Offski.

What's the betting that Makalamby will start the season as no.1

As for a couple of posters reckoning that the FFFHibs conveyor belt will churn out more decent players soon for selling on........please name one that's coming up - Just One !

Hell I must be board coming over here to post.
38

Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 13:32:41
#37

"Hell I must be board coming over here to post."

Well, you're certainly a plank.

I thank you.
39

Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 13:36:25
#37

And to answer your question, Byrne.

He's good enough to play for Celtic, don't you know.

His washed-up uncle said so, so it must be true.
40

Neutral Observer,

05/07/2009 14:33:34
#39 Abe

Minor correction re Byrne. It was his father that gave interviews that his son better be fast tracked to the first team or he would be off. Celtic had their eye on him because the dad had spoken to Neil Lennon and tipped him off.

Kurtis Byrne will get goals, if not this coming season then next. Some other players to watch coming through are Booth and Currie and I think that Hanlon will develop further. He is only 19 after all.
41

Neutral Observer,

05/07/2009 14:34:49
#39 Abe

One thing about Hanlon is that he is still growing and could develop into a strong centre back.
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Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 14:49:56
NO

Aye, true enough. TBH, I didn't see the point in retorting with a balanced, thought-out reply dealing with football matters as this would fall on deaf ears so thanks for doing that!
43

The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

05/07/2009 15:11:07
Selective, you hibees make things up. None of your guff, why have hibs for all the past fff never even been in the top three in the last decade? It's because they have absolutely no ambition and extremely thick supporters. Ones like the majority of above. They try play any card they can to deflect from this, usualy hearts/Romanov and the debt most recently, but yesterday another new low for dumplings like private pike. Trying the race card when there was nothing to suggest the racist poster had any connection to Hearts. But because it's a hibs story it must be a Jambo, that's what your up against with you clowns, you just make things up and try and pass it off as fact, just not bright enough, have to say if i had the power, i would shut you down. You certainly wouldn't be missed in a sporting context and perhaps a change of sport would suit hibs more anyway, what about water polo or synchronised swimming, the pool could be filled by the fans slavers!!
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RolIand,

05/07/2009 15:16:21
#43 - didn't Mowbray's team finish 3rd? That was in the last decade...
45

Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 15:40:15
#43

And also Mcleish's team 00/01.

Kind of makes you look like a total plum, doesn't it?



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Private Pike,

05/07/2009 15:40:31
#The Gorgie Boys are in Town"

So you've surfaced again spitting poison and abuse as usual.

Lets see now."Why have hibs for all the past fff never even been in the top three in the last decade"

They've been 3rd twice in the last decade. This is the one time in your post when you mention football and you get it wrong. No surprise there.

The race card. Because a HEARTS FAN makes a racist remark which went unrebuked by any Hearts supporter and I recount the time when the Hearts fans sickened the whole country when they thought it just the thing to do to racially taunt Mark Walters of Rangers. Instead of regretting that such a thing ever happened he accuses me of playing the race card.

After that it's just abuse with "The Gorgie Boys etc. showing us all once again that when it comes to intelligence he's not exactly up there with the leaders.
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Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 15:53:03
Pike

I thought it was hilarious myself. Pretty sure the irony of accusing Hibs fans of being thick will be completely lost on him. This was my favourite bit:

"you just make things up and try and pass it off as fact, just not bright enough.."

ARF!

unfortunately, just being a feejit doesn't warrant a

NURSE!!


oh, BTW Roly, I see you haven't responded to my point above. You've not, for once, actually realised that "it's better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."


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Private Pike,

05/07/2009 16:29:37
Abe

Although your question was made to Rolland. There's nothing stopping any Hearts supporter coming on and explaining.

I exclude "The Gorgie Boys" of course. I'm pretty sure he can't understand his own posts, never mind anyone elses.

He reminds me a bit of "Fit o' the Walk Jambo". They both show an almost complete ignorance when it comes to football. Neither of them do irony or have any sense of humour. They both get absolutely raging when they post and usually lose it completely.

They both make Rolland sound reasonable.
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The Gorgie Boys Are In Town,

05/07/2009 16:54:04
46 I actualy think it was you that posted the comment yesterday under a different name probably so you could blame HEARTS fans for it. You seem so sure it was a HEARTS fan when no indication of this was on his moniker. You are a bit of a lowlife and wouldn't surprise me in the slightest having read a bit of your guff in the past. Whatever you slaver about irony it doesn't change the fact that hibs are pap and fleecing you of your best players and putting nothing back in. Even Gretna have more ambition than you lot and they don't exist any longer. If that is poisenous and abusive then so be it but it's still true. Definately going down the hibs but it's what you deserve!! Long live the hibs board is all i'm saying, don't ever leave Petrie.
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Abe Fruman,

05/07/2009 17:18:15
Pike

I wonder what has driven these types to their almost pathological hatred of Hibs? I'm all for a bit of banter and don't mind getting ripped into Hearts but ultimately I'm not really that mithered and certainly have better things to do with my energies than to get myself into a right lather about another team.

It's all a bit pathetic, really.....
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Private Pike,

05/07/2009 17:33:00
Abe

You're dead right. I enjoy a bit of banter with them but at the end of the day I have too many Hearts supporting friends to wish their team any harm.

But... it wouldn't do if we were all the same.

I try to tell the truth (As I see it) when I post on these threads and the thing about Gorgie Boys and those like him is that they don't mind telling lies or making unfounded accusations.

"I actualy think it was you that posted the comment yesterday under a different name probably so you could blame HEARTS fans for it."

He doesn't think that at all. He puts in into his post because truth is not that important to him.

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Daillyman,

06/07/2009 01:21:11
52

At least some tic fans are willing to discuss the issue, unlike some.....
53

Burno,

07/07/2009 15:13:40
49: you say, hibs are pap and fleecing you of your best players and putting nothing back in.

Would you like to me what selling Gordon, Hartley, Presley, Neilson,etc etc is doing, if different from Hibs selling players?
Also, you could maybe open my eyes as to what your board/owner is actually putting in to your lot following all these sales?

No point in having a go at Hibs board for a certain action when your own is doing exactly the same, or does that not count in your opinion?

 

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