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Norway 0 Netherlands 1: Van Bommel dents Norway hopes



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Published Date: 16 October 2008
MARK van Bommel's second-half strike ensured the Netherlands maintained their 100 per cent start to World Cup qualifying at the expense of Norway.
Van Bommel smashed home a volley after 64 minutes in Oslo to make it three wins from three for Oranje and stretch their advantage at the top of Scotland's Group 9. Norway, however, are still waiting for their first win and are now seven points adrift of the leaders.

Watch highlights of last night's World Cup qualifiers - including Norway v Netherlands - here

Netherlands coach Bert van Marwijk made two changes to the side which saw off Iceland at the weekend. Edwin van der Sar replaced Michel Vorm between the posts, while Demy de Zeeuw replaced the injured Nigel de Jong in midfield.

The hosts also made two changes to their starting XI following last Saturday's goalless draw at Hampden. Morten Gamst Pedersen and Henning Hauger were named in midfield with Fredrik Stromstad and Bjorn Helge Riise dropping to the bench.

It was Norway who saw the first glimpse of goal at Ullevaal when a curling 25-yard free-kick from John Arne Riise had to be tipped around the post by Van der Sar after seven minutes.

Roma midfielder Riise threatened again midway through the first half with a shot from distance which went high and wide.

The Netherlands looked off the pace and their rhythm was further disrupted when Liverpool winger Ryan Babel hobbled off the pitch with 25 minutes on the clock. Ibrahim Afellay came on as his replacement and, within minutes, the visitors had their first chance, although Rafael van der Vaart's free-kick was comfortably dealt with by Norway goalkeeper Jon Knudsen.

Van der Sar was then called upon to make another save from John Carew's towering header, and the Aston Villa striker came close again with a 12-yard strike which also warmed the hands of the visiting goalkeeper.

The Netherlands could have snatched a goal just before half-time, but Afellay flashed a right-footed effort inches past the right post. Carew then had the best opening of the match just after the restart when he fired over the bar from close range with only Van der Sar to beat.

Norway continued to press and Carew turned provider for strike partner Steffen Iversen, whose header was held by the Dutch keeper. Further shots followed from Hauger and Carew but still a goal would not come for Age Hareide's men.

They were almost punished for their profligacy when Dirk Kuyt hit the crossbar after 61 minutes with a dipping 12-yard shot which caught Knudsen off guard. And moments later, Van Marwijk's men were in front. An inswinging corner from Giovanni van Bronckhorst was cleared by Brede Hangeland but only as far as Van Bommel, who replied with a 20-yard volley into the bottom left corner.

The goal was harsh on Norway, but poor finishing had let them down and Carew was guilty of another miss when he headed a corner over the bar.

There were chances at both ends as the clock ticked down with Norway substitute Tarik Elyounossi forcing a save from Van der Sar before Van Bommel drilled a left-footed strike just past the left post. But the Dutch claimed another three points.

Norway: Knudsen, Hoiland, Waehler, Haland, Hangeland, Winsnes, John Arne Riise, Grindheim, Hauger, Pedersen, Carew. Subs: Iversen, Johnsen, Stromstad, Hogli, Bjorn Helge Riise, Haestad, Elyounossi.

Netherlands: Van der Sar, Marcellis, Ooijer, Mathijsen, Van Bronckhorst, Van Bommel, Van der Vaart, De Zeeuw, Kuyt, Huntelaar, Babel. Subs: Timmer, De Cler, Engelaar, Van Persie, Afellay, Sneijder, Kromkamp.

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  • Last Updated: 15 October 2008 11:28 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Harlem Tam,

16/10/2008 00:48:25
This is a good result for Scotland. Let's face it, we have zero chance of winning the group, so it is a 4-way battle for second place and this result keeps us in front of the pack and on target for the play-offs.

Still a lot to play for and it all makes a mockery of the people who claimed that the draw last Saturday had effectively knocked us out of the World Cup.
2

obligor,

16/10/2008 01:08:15


Big Boydie will be raging at this scoreline.
Not half.
3

Harlem Tam,

16/10/2008 02:05:57
From here on in, we want the Dutch to defeat the other 3 nations every time, then look for Scottish victories over Iceland and Macedonia at home and hope to avoid defeat in Norway. Anything we can get from the 2 games against the Dutch would be fantastic, but we can afford to lose both these games and grab second place if we take care of the other games.

I for one am reasonably confident.
4

Harlem Tam,

16/10/2008 03:03:19
28-Mar-09 . . . Netherlands v Scotland

01-Apr-09 . . . Netherlands v Macedonia
01-Apr-09 . . . Scotland v Iceland

06-Jun-09 . . . Iceland v Netherlands
06-Jun-09 . . . Macedonia v Norway

10-Jun-09 . . . Macedonia v Iceland
10-Jun-09 . . . Netherlands v Norway

12-Jun-09 . . . Norway v Scotland

05-Sep-09 . . . Iceland v Norway
05-Sep-09 . . . Scotland v Macedonia

09-Sep-09 . . . Scotland v Netherlands
09-Sep-09 . . . Norway v Macedonia
5

Just an opinion,

USA 16/10/2008 03:51:08
Watched Norway almost get at least a point with big Carew not able to produce the finish needed - sound familiar?
As the commentator said here, there are no longer any 'easy' matches in International football.
A fact so many of my fellow supporters have yet to grasp.
Cut the garbage talk and the criticism, recognise we are playing guys who do not command first team places with their clubs or are in the English Championship League.
Nobody has managed Scotland to the finals since ?????
That says it all. So get rid of the kids who throw their dummies out of the pram, and bring back the boys like Bremner, Lorimer, Johnestone, and a hell of a lot more who were proud to go out there and play for the shirt!
6

jamurai,

16/10/2008 04:09:03
Iceland taking the points from Macedonia is also a good result for Scotland- so despite a stuttering start we are still in with more than a fighting chance of second place....it may look a bit dimmer after the Holland game away in March but we have to look at the whole picture, something which too many journos seem incapable of (step forward Chick Young...). So forget what they have to say ,ignore the bile from those so called Scotsmen who seem to take delight in Scotland's failings, lets get right behind the boys,roll up our sleeves get into this dogfight and get the job done.
C'mon Scotland!
7

freewheelin franklin,

london 16/10/2008 04:09:24
#9
some good points but the last.
the reason boyd spat the dummy is because he did not get the chance to play proudly for the shirt.
scotland should yet get the playoff, then we need a lucky draw.
8

jamurai,

16/10/2008 04:19:57
btw, BTO, reading your posts its hard to tell whether you are really behind the team or not...which is it?...Do Scotland matter to you or are you one of that all too common breed (normally clad in red white and blue, or green and white on a Saturday) who will shout from the roof-tops when things are going well and just take te p*ss when things are not?
9

hkblootered,

Lantau Island 16/10/2008 04:44:18
Here's the current Group 9 table. Remember that the 8 best group runners-up will contest Round Two of the European qualifying tournament. The teams will be paired into 4 home-and-away series.The winners qualify for the FIFA World Cup.

So although Scotland are sitting pretty in second just now and if the other teams keep taking points of one another i.e. Iceland beat Macedonia 1-0 last night, maybe Scotland's total points collected won't be enough to get thru to the Runners Up knock out games. Just a thought, confident for 2nd, but will we get enough points?

Team P W D L GF GA Pts
Netherlands 3 3 0 0 5 1 9
Scotland 3 1 1 1 2 2 4
Iceland 4 1 1 2 4 6 4
Macedonia 3 1 0 2 2 3 3
Norway 3 0 2 1 2 3 2
10

jamurai,

16/10/2008 05:11:17
BTO, winning every game would bring us 15 more points.(your post at no.1). I suspect you either don't know what you're talking about or you just like the sound of your own keyboard clicking. I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds you extremely annoying, so please, keep your drivel to yourself. I believe you are in Japan- it's incredibly easy to get laid here, especially in Tokyo, so why not do youself a favour and try and get out a bit more ,eh?
11

Harlem Tam,

16/10/2008 05:31:03
Isn't it incredibly easy to get laid ANYWHERE? Or am I just lucky?

;-)
12

Talk o' the Toun,

16/10/2008 06:27:27
#15 No he does not know what he is talking about and no you are not the only one that finds him irritating.
However he will take that as a compliment. Ignore him;he feeds off attention incl tekking a few porky pies!

As 2nd place is our ownly realistic aspiration last nights results are good news.We are 2nd despite two games away/Norway/Mac/Iceland are not good sides and iam confident of 2nd(lottery whether we are best placed).Any less would be failure. Ignore the press histeria(usual West of Scot hidden agenda) & get behind the team
13

Talk o' the Toun,

16/10/2008 06:28:24
telling not tekking(need to brush up on my one finger typing!!!!)
14

Talk o' the Toun,

16/10/2008 06:42:00
cannot blame the typing only not ownly.....no hiding place for that one....
15

Harlem Tam,

16/10/2008 06:48:59
Why is everyone picking on BTO today? There's a lot worse than him on here and certainly today he doesn't appear to have said anything controversial.

Lighten up lads.
16

Harlem Tam,

16/10/2008 06:53:24
We don't have to be best-placed runner-up to get into the play-offs. We just need to make sure we are not the worst-placed runner-up. Scotland is in the only group with 5 nations, all the rest having 6. So in the other groups, the results against the bottom placed nations are discarded, so it will be a straight matter of points, goal difference, goals scored etc to determine the 8 play-off contenders.
17

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 16/10/2008 08:12:06
We're in pretty good shape here, despite all the gloom-mongers on Saturday and Sunday. We have to believe that we can beat Iceland and Macedonia at home (they're not easy games, but if we can't win them we've no business at the finals anyway), and get a result in Oslo. We're also capable of taking a point or two off Holland, especially since they're 99.9% certain to have already qualified by the time they come to Hampden.

2nd place is eminently achievable despite a bumpy start, we just have to make sure we don't drop enough points to be the worst runner-up, and then cross our fingers for the playoffs.

Personally I've seen enough in our performances so far to believe we can make it - we'd be looking very strong if not for the miss of the century, and the manager can't legislate for that sort of thing.
18

Talk o' the Toun,

16/10/2008 08:48:27
harlem tam: there is no worse than BTO on here today.(all about opinions;enough said)

REV. last para;totally agree.

Off scotland now .all attention on scotlands oldest Derby.
19

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 16/10/2008 08:49:03
Last night's result for Holland wasn't entirely unexpected so Norway are no better off than we thought they would be on Saturday evening. The result we ought to be concerned about, I would say, is the Macedonian loss to Iceland. Had the result been reversed, we would be third but Iceland would be well off the pace with 1 point from 2 games. As it now sits, we are level with Iceland, one ahead of Macedonia and 2 ahead of Norway. The group is shaping up to be very tight and that could mean we are second but the worst placed 2nd team hence fail to go through. We now need to focus on taking full points at home and hopefully something from either Oslo or Amsterdam... or both!

#25 Rev S. I agree with the comment about Holland - they are very unlikely to go through with 24 points. At some point someone will get a draw or score a lucky winner.
20

twists'n'turns,

16/10/2008 08:53:16
I agree with the Rev at #25. If you look at the remaining fixtures and assume we can beat Macedonia at home, Macedonia look like they would possibly pick up 6 or 7 pts from their remaining games, leaving them on 9 or 10 pts, leaving Scotland needing 6 or 7pts from their games. 3 v Macedonia and 3 from Iceland at home gives us 6 of them, meaning a draw away at Norway or a draw at home to the Dutch, who will almost certainly have qualified by then, would suffice.

All if's buts and maybe's I know, but we are still in with a good chance of the play-off's.
21

twists'n'turns,

16/10/2008 08:55:22
Iceland have 3 perilous games approaching v us at Hampden, home to the dutch and away to Macedonia. I think they'll be dead and buried after those 3.
22

Shaken,

16/10/2008 09:03:55
Let's face it we're not going to get second. Burley is not the caliber of manager we want or need to achieve success.
23

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 16/10/2008 09:08:03
#30 If that's your attitude, then why not at least do the decent thing and STFU, so as not to spread gloom around the nation that might affect the team? You make me want to puke, and that can't be healthy or pleasant for anyone.
24

Cheezy,

ek 16/10/2008 09:13:57
can someone explain to me because ive tried for ages to find out. if it is the 8 best 2nd placed teams that get to the playoff. how do fifa work it out as scotland will play less games than the teams in the other groups? have i missed something??
25

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 16/10/2008 09:19:36
For what it's worth, the current 2nd placed teams, without their results against the current bottom teams - in order of points then goal diff then goals for, are...

P W D L F A Pt GD
3 2 0 1 6 3 6 3 Russia
3 2 0 1 5 3 6 2 Lithuania
3 1 2 0 6 4 5 2 Israel
3 1 2 0 3 2 5 1 Turkey
3 1 1 1 3 2 4 1 Hungary
2 1 1 0 2 1 4 1 Rep Ireland
3 1 1 1 4 4 4 0 Croatia
3 1 1 1 4 4 4 0 Poland
3 1 1 1 2 2 4 0 Scotland

#30 and who are your nominations for the new manager?
26

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 16/10/2008 09:22:37
#32 - have a look at FIFA.com. There is a document there which explains the qualification process including the payoffs in detail. Basically, the results of the 2nd placed teams in groups 1-8 against the bottom teams are not counted so each of the 2nd placed teams will have, nominally, played 8 games. The decision is then on points from those 8 games followed by (if I recall) goal difference then goals scored.
27

Cheezy,

EK 16/10/2008 09:24:31
cheers #35
28

Who?,

16/10/2008 09:33:08
So lets get this correct- after every team in the group has played 3 games (except iceland= 4) scotland are sitting second yet they are out of qualifying already? I don't think so!

#34 correctly shows that of the second placed teams scotland are the lowest, however scotlands group has less teams than the other groups so this has to be taken into account so the points have to be averaged out over the games played or discount the points gained against the lowest seeded teams in the group.

What most scotland fans should be worried about is the fact norway were the better team on saturday over 90mins. Norway have players who are better individualy and who play in far better leagues- how many scotland players would play every game in the EPL, seria a or the spanish league? For scotland to qualify they need a draw in oslo and a win at home to a hopefully qualified (thus demotivated) dutch team.
29

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 16/10/2008 09:57:06
#37 "Norway have players who are better individualy and who play in far better leagues"

So did France in the last campaign. So did England compared to Croatia in the last campaign. Yet France lost to us twice, yet still qualified, yet England lost to Croatia twice and didn't.

What does all that prove? It proves that how good your players are individually doesn't matter two hoots. Football is a team game, and a good team is usually much greater than the mere sum of its parts.

In my view, Burley's Scotland, when they're playing well, are a significantly better side than Smith or McLeish's Scotland when *they* were playing well. (And about the same when they're playing badly, ie pretty bad.) He's trying to change the nature of our game at a fundamental level into something much more positive (something McLeish started, credit where due), and there are bound to be hiccups and teething problems along the way.

The time to judge him is after an entire campaign, when we see whether he learns from his mistakes and hones the good bits, and when we're not making snap judgements about his entire tactical and strategic acumen based on a ridiculous miss by a striker and a couple of isolated bad refereeing decisions. If he gets us to the finals, by hook or by crook, he'll instantly become the most successful Scotland manager of the last four.
30

The Genuine Mario Antoinette,

16/10/2008 10:03:23
Beat MK and Iceland at home. draw with Norway and lose the two against Holland and it Shoudl be enough.

BUt we ARE scottish so expect a completely bizarre and possibly-just doable-in the final-game scenario.
31

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 16/10/2008 10:08:51
#39 Scotland being Scotland, we'll win in Amsterdam, then draw at home to Macedonia and finish 3rd on head-to-head results. But tradition notwithstanding, I think your scenario would leave us in serious danger of finishing last among the runners-up and not making the playoffs. I reckon we need at least one point off the Dutch, preferably two or three. And we're certainly capable of that, particularly as we face them at Hampden in our last game.
32

Who?,

16/10/2008 10:09:49
#38- very good point regarding england and croatia and a lesser extent scotland and france. At hampden viera had 2 legit goals ruled out for offside in the first half, at the return game in paris it should have been 10 or 12-0 to france such was their domination. A great display by gordon and hartley and a wonder goal from mcfadden won it- the problem is that france still qualified over scotland with a bit to spare.

Norway and scotland are far closer in terms of ability and quality. For me its all about what can be gained in oslo.

It is also a very good point that Burley's Scotland, when they're playing well, are a significantly better side than Smith or McLeish's Scotland. Both of those managers got good press for not being berti vogts even though they both suffered vogts-esq results (belarus and georgia).
33

Royalty,

Zandvoort 16/10/2008 10:12:41
Scots are sure to score in Amsterdam next March.

I hear theres a football match on at the same time.

Boom boom.
34

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 16/10/2008 10:20:44
#41 "At hampden viera had 2 legit goals ruled out for offside in the first half, at the return game in paris it should have been 10 or 12-0 to france such was their domination. A great display by gordon and hartley and a wonder goal from mcfadden won it- the problem is that france still qualified over scotland with a bit to spare."

I don't think I can agree. At Hampden we could easily have been 4-0 down after 30 minutes, but the two goals were, albeit by inches, offside and correctly disallowed. We got a grip after that, clung on, stole a goal from a set-piece, and then defended by the seat of our pants for a very lucky win made from determination rather than skill.

In Paris, however, we contained the French almost totally, and they barely dirtied Gordon's gloves - I think he made one real save, from practically the only time they got into our penalty area. Our goal was a thunderbolt from nowhere in terms of our attacking threat, but overall we played considerably better than at Hampden and therefore deserved the victory more.

And the French didn't make it with "a bit to spare" - they qualified just about as narrowly as possible, and if we hadn't screwed up against the Georgia Youth 'B' Team we'd have finished above them. (And I still largely blame the SFA's "third strip" greed for that fiasco.)

I do agree, though, that there's little to choose in football terms between the four teams in the group who aren't Holland. All are capable of taking points off each other, and already have done, so it's down to what we do in the next five games (and particularly away to Norway and at home to Holland), not what we did in the last three.

Incidentally, before we go to Oslo, Norway have to play Macedonia and Holland, both away. I'm kinda hoping they'll lose both and already be out of it by the time we meet them...
35

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 10:20:58
With George Vogts in charge Scotland are a shambles,
If he had Scottish Granny, Georgie Vogts would pick the hopeless Titus Brambles.
Norway are P!sh so 2nd place is still our aim,
But we would have a better chance of getting this, if the manager was Georgie Fame.

36

I still Believe,

Rough tough grey stuff 16/10/2008 10:22:16
I'm sorry, but I believe it will come down to the last match with Scotland v Holland and us requiring a point to qualify for the play offs (famil). Note the date 9/9/09? with all true Scotsmen praying they don't have to dial that dreaded number for assistance.
37

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 10:50:03
#46 BTO

The hoardes of Green and Grey. will always sing praise to the IRA.
38

Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 10:59:37
#46 also rising will be the extreme right wing tendencies nurtured by ReaRangers Fussball CLub.

Look out for the club led "go home" campaign to incorporate, Poles, Asian and African Scots.

39

Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 11:06:12
"Hitler tache's two for a pound, two for a pound. No Nazi solute is complete without one."
40

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:11:12
Lads,

if we are going to start a slanging match can we at least do so with due deference to spelling,syntax etc...

Magnum..."Hoardes"?

Examples of proper use is as follows....

"The Celtic Trophy Room turned out to be a veritable HOARD of Silverware"

"The Rangers HORDES visited wanton destruction on the City of Manchester"

See the difference?
41

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:13:03
#48 SoR

Your conflation of your fear of Rangers and your general xenophobia has resulted in quite an outburst on this occassion. Let me clarify the position for you; the famous Glasgow Rangers welcome players and fans from all over the world. If you follow one of the world's great Monothestic faiths, one of the other world religions or if you are an agnostic in these matters, all are welcome at Ibrox. Football is what the followers of the famous Glasgow Rangers worship when they come near the marbled splendour of Ibrox stadium.
42

Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 11:14:22
#51 so who has to go home then?
43

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:15:54
#50 Swordsman

A genuine thanks for the speeling correection, your Mother would be very proud of you. A man not afraid to share the benefits of his advanced learning.
44

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:16:59
47

The hordes of venom Rangers blue...will always be hateful and vile like you!

Am gettin the hang o this!
45

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:17:29
Yup those years at her Majesty's pleasure sure made a difference...
46

obligor,

16/10/2008 11:20:16
The thread where The Camel says he will not join his Rearrangerz colleagues in turning their backs on Scotland is more entertaining than this.

PS....has The Man With No Surname broken his silence on why his players are chucking the Scotland National Team yet.

Maybe the laptopmeejaroyalz will ask the question tomorrow.

One things for sure,the longer the laptopmeejaroyalz delay asking the question, the more "Walters" reputation will suffer as a direct result.

Wont it.
47

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:20:19
51

The correct is monotheistic....
48

Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 11:20:48
Swordy - the Raging Ranger Syndrome Sufferering Hordes have influence at the highest level.

A typically benign ReaRangers AGM was about to be called time on after 35mins.

The horders decided that this was not enough and got agitated.

The shocked directors of ReaRangers Fussball Club, fearing a repeat of the Manchester riots, had no alternative but to continue the discussions.

They then,politely asked Raging Ranger Syndrome sufferers to desist from acting in this manner and to discontinue their ways over the net which is a manifestation of the inbred behaviour within the ReaRangers "culture".

A request which has gone unfulfilled.


49

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:23:12
In my haste.....I left out the word Spelling after correct.....

It would help us all...if Margaret Oplud could get it right in the first place...
50

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:23:24
#50 Swordsman

Can you correct my homework?

"Timothy hoarded the stolen goods from his many house burglaries in his South-side bed-sit.”

“Timothy felt the breath of history, as he ran through the Gallowgate like a soldier in a green and grey Mongol horde.”
51

Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 11:26:16
(H)Oplus, you've still got a couple of days to get the homework corrected before the schools start back on Monday.

52

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:27:00
#60...No hope for you,I'm afraid.Go and stand in the cornor and face the wall....Should be familiar,just like watching Rangers last year...
53

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:27:13
corner
54

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:28:59
"The correct is monotheistic...."

---

PaulLing, meaningless drivel compounded by your four dot ellipsis. The product of a sectarian education no doubt...
55

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:30:23
58...SoR

35 minutes for an AGM....it is a bit of a soap opera doon at the Brox....Eastenders and Corrie last about 30 minutes.....

56

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:30:58
#62 Swordsman

Do you know if Scotland have ever scored a goal from a cornor kick?

57

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:32:31
64

You need to up yer game Margaret...

3 dots this time...just for you.
58

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:33:50
Celtic's Charley Tully did score from a CORNOR,had it disallowed then retook the CORNOR and scored again...Falkirk 1955,I believe..If that is of any use
59

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:34:32
#65 PaulLing

Call the Doc, as my sides have just split…
60

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:37:14
64

2 of my teachers supported Rearrangers....so there might be some truth in that!

Ps. Educating the likes of you is never meaningless....one should always try....hopeless springs to mind tho!
61

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:37:41
#68

Just thinking of a song, can you guess the artist and title?

"That's me in the cornor, that's me in the spotlight".
62

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:38:41
You wouldn't care about losing your religion,would you?
63

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:39:21
Quincy M.D. He was a CORNOR too,wasnt he?
64

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:39:45
#72 Swordsman

I ain't answering that, nobody put Magnum in a cornor.
65

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:40:00
69

That will be the bile...keep it aff the carpet.
66

twists'n'turns,

16/10/2008 11:40:13

Magnus, there is a well known saying along the lines of "all that you are you owe to your parents"

Do the right thing. Send them a penny and square up the debt.
67

Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 11:42:17
#73

We have come full circle, as my Eurovision song of yesterday was based on "Dic-a-dum-dum" by Des O'Cornor.
68

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:44:52
Swordy....good old Jack Klugman....played the part for so long...he ended up actually believing he was a doctor.
69

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:45:01
77...Sounds right if you use a NORN IRON accent...
70

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 11:46:52
Worked with a guy years ago who when he lost at cards would always do the old "If I'd played the 3 of hearts rather than the 10 of diamonds..."
The cry would go up "Awright,Quincy nae post mortems here...."
71

paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 11:47:56
76...TNT

Margaret will need that explained....
72

Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 11:59:15
Margaret's quimm is full of it
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 12:01:08
So thats where Quimm Cheese comes from...To paraphrase the headstone of W.C. Field (A man after my own heart) "I'd rather be in Philadelphia..."
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 12:06:01
The man was a genius..Asked why he drank so much alcohol,he replied "Never drink water,fish F**K in it"...Thats good enough for me...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 12:09:45
BTO a ninety nine wi a flake...
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Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 12:15:14
BTO ironic that Scotlands best results (including Iceland beating Macedonia) in the group happened without any input from Scotland.
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paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 12:19:52
87....BTO

Talking aboot Ibrox.....any news on sidebaws yet?

Was the feet straightening operation successful?
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Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 12:26:33
Yesterday it was 2.10 for a 1/2 and a 1/2 in George's local.

Don't expect any comments from him on a Wednesday.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 16/10/2008 12:28:19
50 posts before Old Firm a*s*holes ruined the thread. A new record?
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Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 12:30:35
96 sorry to correct a man of the cloth,but i think you'll see me weighing into the ReaRangers with a kick in the baws at no 48.
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Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 12:33:14
#96 Rev

Dry your eyes and GTF...
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paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 12:34:24
96

Superb contribution.....well done....now side exit left!
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Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 12:35:28
#99 PaulLing

See post #98 for a leeson on how to deal with these people.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 12:35:56
C'mon Rev..The thread was dead and we were just fecking around til you got here...

Dont take any of the above postings as gospel you'd be forgiven for being a Doubting Thomas so dont get cross and crucify yourself..I'd swear on the bible that there is no agenda,or so the philastine next door to me says....
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paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 12:42:02
100

C'mon Margaret....he's a man of the cloth....albeit using rather colourful language....

If he persists then a swift sharp volley maybe needed....or in common parlance....the doormans approach.
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obligor,

16/10/2008 12:43:08
"Walters" Rearrangerz squad urnae half gettin themselves into some fankle with the Rearrangerz playerz refusing to play for Scotland thing.
Well at least some of them are refusing.


Big Boydie has come out 1 hour ago as posted on SKY Sports News bulletin that he does not want to have a running war of words with or against the Scotland team.
Yets that is exactly what he goes on to do,he said this...
.."It was a decision I took months ago but I kept going and said I would give myself another chance.But it came to a head and I couldn`t take any more."

Boydie has clearly lost the plot and already regrets the errors of his ways when he walked out on the Scotland squad.

Not to worry Boydie.

"Walters" got a nice wee hot water bottle waiting for you at your spot on the Rearrangerz bench.

Out of the frying pan into the fire.
Isn`t it.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 12:43:21
Think he's a man touching cloth by the tone of his sermon....
88

Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 12:48:44
BTO whats the Ad Deal?Lazee boy chairs?
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Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 12:49:06
Right lads, I think we need a theme for our afternoon debate. Today I would like to discuss the pros and cons of the various youth movements. I will kick off with PaulLing's old group the Goths.

Musical Taste: 3/10
Clothing: 1/10
Chance of getting yer NatKing: 1/10
Chance of getting into a fight: 5/10
Quality of Parties you get invited to: 1/10
Compatibility with attending your 1st Job interview: 0/10
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paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 12:52:09
107

KFC
91

paulmac,

Surrey 16/10/2008 12:53:22
Margaret I won't tell you again.....it was the Tongs!
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paulmac,

Surrey 16/10/2008 12:55:03
105

He's gettin punted in January....possibly Bournemouth!
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Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 12:59:06
#113 - as soon as he seen the exercise word, negotiations with Boydy broke down.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 13:01:31
Magnums group would be ...The New Romantics..

Musical taste..-4.I mean who ever liked Japan (Except BTO)?

Clothing...-2.Lots of Diamonte and sashes so felt comfortable.

Chance of the Vinegar Strokes..-2.Possibility of bodily fluid exchange but when the make up came off found out it was a welder from Kincaid's who'd drunk too much eldee and thought he was at a theme night in Clatty Pats.

Chances of a rammy... +2...Oh so bitchy! Those catfights would be VICIOUS!

Parties...-3.Cant see you wandering down Byres rd with a cairry oot in a Tutu and not being diverted to A&E at the Western.

Job interview..+10..Have you seen who runs the BBC these days?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 13:06:42
BTO he would be a natural at the Diving (aff a cliff or over a defenders leg) bit though...Only real problem would be the resultant Tsunami...
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Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 13:13:30
I once knew a girl or should I say she once knew me. We were both young and carefree. We had a whirlwind romance following a meeting on the dancefloor at the Student union. It was dark and we had both been drinking heavily, but these factors increased our ardour. I will spare you the boring detail on how we danced and sipped from the otherS Pint mug. Anyway, we ended up in a passionate embrace against the wall in the bin area at the back of the union. Afterwards, I gave her my number and she was on the phone the next day asking to meet up that night.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 13:19:13
Hope you all arent getting Norwegian Wood out there with the first installment of Magnums Mills & Boon story...
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obligor,

16/10/2008 13:23:44
Youth movements?

An eye opening youth movement I`ve been involved with were taking young offenders from one establishment to an other,or perhaps onto court appearances.

Private firm,with youths,boys/girls up to 18 years of age and before they had been sentenced only.

Looooong time ago,but very interesting.
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Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 13:28:57
#122 Continued...

I had other plans for that evening but instead offered to visit her that afternoon. Thoughts of soft beds and a warm bosom filled my head. Anyway, We arranged to meet at the Botanic Gardens, my master plan was to get her hot and bothered in the steamy heat of the Tropical glass house to loosen the limbs and get the juices flowing for later in the afternoon. Anyway I turned up at the appointed time, the only person near the bench we had agreed to meet at was a fat Goth-burd dressed in clothes from the Undertakers surplus shop. Her visage was a combination of Michelle McManus and a dented bucket, in other words she was pure hoachin. The problem was that she had seen me and was waving at me, I was faced with the ultimate fight or flight dilemma…
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Survivor Of Riots,

16/10/2008 13:33:56
#125 - i bet this finishes with you knockin' her up and getting married?

I always guess the end of Eastenders and who dies on Casualty too!
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jamurai,

16/10/2008 13:39:02
BTO has been at his p*sh all day again....so its opening time now is it? ...and he's off to hide in a dark corner and watch everyone else pull.....
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Magnum Oplus,

16/10/2008 13:42:18
#125 Continued...

At first I pretended not to notice she was still 20 yards away from me at this stage. I turned my back on her and looked at my watch in the way one does when someone you are meeting is late. As I stood there I heard her clumping footsteps and booming voice shouting shouting, “Magnum, Magnum here a um!”.

“Oh FFS woe is me” was my immediate thought. Her sausage fingers were soon gripping my shoulder. “ You trying tay ignore me or summfin”, was her opening gambit. I had to think fast, cery fast...
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paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 13:43:47
117....Swordy

The image of Margaret sitting at her PC in full romantic regalia...with his Human league hair style...typing away...whilst singing..."don't you want me baby"...is a frightening thought....and just won't go away....
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paulmac,

surrey 16/10/2008 13:47:00
129...Margaret

Can I ask at this point.....the alcohol involved when you first met......

Purely for my own avoidance purposes...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 16/10/2008 13:47:58
Paul...I dont buy this Uni disco Botsnic Gardens tripe..."You were working as a waitress in a cocktail bar,when I met you ..." sounds more his speed...