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Past mistakes persuade McGhee to prolong stay



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Published Date: 28 May 2008
MARK McGhee was on the verge of boarding a plane to Lithuania when he decided to break off negotiations with Hearts and to remain with Motherwell instead. An improved salary offer from his present employers was one of the factors which influenced the 51-year-old to stay where he was, but he also said yesterday that he had been influenced by a look back over the early stages of his managerial career, and some of the hasty decisions he made then.
"I felt a move to Hearts would have been premature for me," McGhee said. "It smacked a bit of what I did earlier in my managerial career. When a bigger job came up, I went.

"Hearts was a bigger job, but make no mistake I would never say it was a b
etter job. I couldn't allow myself to go this time because I have to give a little more back."

Best known as a player for successful spells with Aberdeen and Celtic, McGhee entered management at the start of the 1990s with Reading. He was player-manager there for two years, then just manager for another season, before he moved to Leicester City.

Roughly a year after arriving at Filbert Street, he moved on to Wolverhampton Wanderers. The departures from Reading and Leicester, in particular, were widely seen as ambitious but badly timed, and McGhee now appears to recognise that moving on to a bigger club is not necessarily progress in every sense.

"As much as Hearts was a fantastic opportunity I have to stick it out at Motherwell a bit longer," he continued. "I was at the door of the plane and would have been the last passenger on board. But I turned round and said, 'I can't do this.'

"We are in Europe and I have always wanted that on my CV. I want to have that experience.

"I've a fantastic little team at Motherwell.

"Even on the last night of the season when we won at Hibernian the performance excited me. I just found it impossible to draw myself away from that."

The Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov had expected to hold meetings with McGhee today with the aim of reaching a swift and successful conclusion to negotiations. One of Romanov's chief negotiators had been due to greet McGhee off the plane from London on Monday night, but long before that flight had touched down Motherwell had released a statement saying McGhee had agreed to stay.

That decision left Hearts in disarray. At first some figures at Tynecastle thought there might be a chance of resurrecting the deal, and that the Motherwell statement might amount to no more than McGhee playing hardball in order to secure a better contract with the Edinburgh club. Yesterday, however, brought the slow realisation that the man who had emerged as their only target was staying put, and that even the offer of a salary of around £350,000 was not enough to lure him away.

"Hearts today confirmed that Mark McGhee will not be interviewed for the vacant managerial position at Tynecastle," a brief statement on the club's website read. "The club continues its search for a new manager who can meet the aims of the board in delivering on-field success for Hearts."

With no-one else on their shortlist, Hearts will either have to restart that search from scratch, or go for a stop-gap appointment. Either way, time is against them as they seek a manager who is either willing to come to some sort of accommodation with Romanov's interference in team matters or is able to persuade the owner to take a hands-off approach to on-field matters.

Hearts' disappointment contrasted with the delight felt by the Fir Park staff at the news that McGhee and his assistant manager Scott Leitch are to stay. "It's good news for me and it's good news for the club," the forward David Clarkson said.

"Part of my game has been helped by him coming in and changing things around. It's been the same with a lot of the players. It's good to know he is going to be here next season and that will help settle myself and a lot of the other players down.

"We have done very well this season and it's good to know that he will still be here next season, so hopefully we can carry on. We have the Uefa Cup games, which will also be a big experience for us, and it's good to know the manager will be there to help us along.

"He has come in and instilled a lot of confidence in players, especially myself. He brings a lot of life into the dressing room. Everybody enjoys going into training every day and looks forward to the games.

"He is a really nice guy and he likes to have a laugh and a joke and I think that's really important. Everybody relaxes. He has helped a lot of people."

STORY SO FAR

11 May: Celtic defeat Hibernian 2-0 at Parkhead to seal third place in the SPL and a Uefa Cup spot for Motherwell and manager Mark McGhee.

20 May: McGhee rubbishes claims he is poised to be unveiled as Hearts manager.

23 May: Hearts make official request to speak to McGhee.

25 May: In his Sunday newspaper column, McGhee says he is entitled to speak to Hearts

26 May: McGhee rejects Hearts in favour of staying at Fir Park.



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1

Iain Bhern,

28/05/2008 00:14:29
"We are in Europe and I have always wanted that on my CV. I want to have that experience."

I hate to say I told you so to all you jambos but I did cite this as one reason he would turn the job down. Never mind, one slips the net but I'm sure another name will be bandied about before the week is out. I don't see Levein taking the job either as he is doing alright where he is and has a seat on the board.
2

Raskolnikov,

28/05/2008 01:49:38
I you hurry Mr Romanov, you might acquire the services of Jimmy Calderwood before the Gers snatch him up.
3

Swordsman,

Dublin 28/05/2008 01:56:13
Rask...Tango and Sash would be the dream team for the Maroon Balloons......
4

TangerineDreamer,

OFfreezone 28/05/2008 02:43:06
Sonmeboby reminded him that if he goes to Hearts his career goes down the gurgler, if he stays at Well for one or two seasons and gets top 6 finishes (depending when Celtic next finish second in the league) he is a shoe in as their next manager.
5

Van City Hibee,

28/05/2008 02:59:42
Hopefully the SFA will now bring HMFC to heel over thier disgraceful act of tapping up MM
6

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

28/05/2008 03:16:49
#4 I've never understood Old Firm fans - Celtic fans complain about a manager that gets them three titles in a row and last 16 of the CL twice and act like they would rather have a manager who takes Motherwell to consecutive top 6 places.

#5 They won't. Hearts asked Motherwell permission for talks. That's why he was boarding a plane to Lithuania. For talks, an interview if you will. McGhee had a gentleman's agreement with Boyle that he could talk to other clubs privately. Hearts played it according to McGhee's wishes for no formal approach until the end of the season, and McGhee it has to be said, appears to have led them on.

Actually, the only Edinburgh club accused of disgraceful behaviour when making signings recently was Hibs when getting Clayton Donaldson.
7

Albert Kidd's 86 allstars,

Melbourne 28/05/2008 04:01:42
#6, two words for you re. disgraceful behaviour when making signings,

Fernando Screpis...

Yet again It's Hearts that are accused of being the bad boys of late...
8

Patrick O'Reilly,

Coatbridge 28/05/2008 04:31:12
McGhee is heading for Parkhead. Strachan has had his fill of the Celtic minded boo boys.
9

hibbie,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 05:24:48
#6 There is only one team and thier supporters in Edinburgh who behave disgracefully HEARTS, only one team in Britain who are the laughing stock of British football HEARTS, only one team managed by a Fax machine HEARTS, only one team who cannot get a manager HEARTS, Only one set of supporters who BELIEVED they were going to win the SPL, Champions League this season HEARTS, Only one Football (sic) club who have changed managers so often in such a short time HEARTS,
only club and supporters in Scotland that EVERY other teams supporters HATE ..... HEARTS...... laughing stock.
10

Johhny Jambo,

28/05/2008 07:08:01
#10 CJ - Talk 107 for genuine reports? You are having a laugh. It is a soviet style mouthpiece for Romanov. Yesterday afternoon they were still spouting there was a chance of MM joining. Like talk 107 Hearts are a joke.
11

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

28/05/2008 07:20:36
#7 Whatever. The smugness of some Hibs fans is becoming unbearable and deserves some comeback, particuarly when your team is, how shall I put this delicately, gash - and that's with a manager. You'd better do something soon or it'll all be for nothing. Motherwell and Dundee Utd both look set to be strong next year, Hearts will have a manager so couldn't be any worse. Ah well, at least you've got your '86 memories to look back on.

#6 It amazes me that people like you come on the Internet day in day out and willingly prove yourselves to be idiots in front of a worldwide audience. One question - why?
12

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

28/05/2008 07:23:00
I meant #9 not #6 although it could equally apply to me too, just with better punctuation and less ranting.
13

Paranoid John from Midlothian,

28/05/2008 07:26:35
Europe on your CV...yeah here's how it will read Mark....2008/9 season, UEFA Cup, lost in the first round. I reckon we are lucky not to get him after this. If Motherwell in Europe is the pinnacle of his ambitions then he is not the man for Hearts. Someone bigger and better will come along. Enjoy your "I've a fantastic little team at Motherwell" and your fantastic little crowds while a resurgent Hearts leave you trainling next season.
14

Johhny Jambo,

28/05/2008 07:32:52
#14 Aye right, whilst Motherwell will be playing in the UEFA cup you will be in the EoS cup playing against crap, you maybe get a freindly against FC Kanaus if you are lucky (wow I can hardly wait). Even the Hobbos have the Inter Titty cup to look forward too (and Barcelona). But the good thing is that you can look forward not to being humped by Gretna. Bring back Rix.
15

Flip Hamburglar,

NI 28/05/2008 07:44:55
#14

I thought Hearts gave any ambition of being anything more than 3rd at the last AGM. The re-aligning of the football strategy to a youth based system seems oddly similar to what Motherwell are doing. Don't get me wrong, I think if VR was genuinely indicating he would give up his constant interference and judging by MM's willingness to speak to the club this has to be the most realistic conclusion, then this was a ggod opportunity turned down. But I don't think MM has shown a lack of ambition by staying at Motherwell. The opposite in fact, he clearly thinks he can take them further and open up bigger opportunities for himself.

I wouldn't be so quick to predict a 1st round exit. Aberdeen and Hearts have both shown that qualification to the group stages is possible with a favourable draw and Motherwell look no worse than those sides to me.

No idea who Hearts will go for now but Levein seems an unlikely option to me. I think he has probably made up his mind about VR and is settled at Utd. I would like though to lend my support to the Jimmy Calderwood for Hearts story. I'm sure this deal can be done for a small amount of compensation. Would a £100k sweetener persuad youse to take him off our hands?
16

scorchio,

West of the Pecos 28/05/2008 07:46:53
Greetings my long suffering Jambo cyber chums.
Unlike Bathgate I do think Hearts have other names on a short list.
It would astound me that Campbell Ogilvy would imagine that all we needed to do was identify someone and they would just jump at the chance to come to Tynie.
Vlads history and personality would suggest that those factors were built into a strategy that suggested, we might get one or two knock backs. Ogilvy is no mug, and I have faith in his ability to deliver.
NEXT CANDIDATE PLEASE!
17

Bleeding Heart...,

28/05/2008 07:55:54
#9 My, you have been up late!

No doubt you'll be in the land of nod now, ready to surface mid-afternoon before heading out for an aimless wander round the town.

Try getting a job. Oh, and read a book too. It might help widen your perspective...
18

jdships,

28/05/2008 08:00:18
Is anyone prepared to bet that A BRITISH MANAGER of any standing will take the Hearts job ?
Has all the hallmarks of being another Eastern European unknown .
Sad but time will tell
19

SouthSideHibs,

28/05/2008 08:02:01
Done deal.
War chest.
Normal service.
Well done Mark, you had them all going!
Frail must stay now.
20

Honest Truth,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 08:09:12
No great loss in not getting west coast soiled goods.
We can and will do a lot bettr.
21

hibbie,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 08:10:47
#12 13 I am sure you know who you are.... some of the time, and all I said in my previous post is true, can you deny it. I know the truth hurts little boy but you just have to put on your insane grin and bear it. Stop worrying about what Hibs are up to and PANIC about what is happening to your own little falling apart football (ha ha) club.
DU same points as us and never beat us this season, whilst we had a change of manager and lost the best left back in the SPL, Motherwell I will give you, so think again little one and do so before typing, Hibs had the best defensive record outside the OF, clutching at straws little Jambo man, what did Hearts do apart from losing 3 out of 5 games in the BOTTOM 6 and the final embarassment of losing to the mighty Gretna in the last game, woooooooo scary Hearts, get a grip loser.
22

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:10:58
#6 - You keep spouting some mince, don't you? Clayton Donaldson was actually a by the book signing. Hibs were entitled to talk to him in January and were quoted £500k from Exeter (as I recall). They therefore offered him a pre-contract agreement. Nothing out of the ordinary, and all by the book.

The only thing about the MM issue that smacks of incompetence is that..... Why would Hearts announce by their website that they had made an approach for another clubs manager before being given the chance to speak to him? What other club would do this? In my recollection, most other football clubs sourcing a new manager will tell the football world as and when they sign them up. Not before. Yes, speculation would be rife but I can recall very few clubs that would operate in this manner.

Except of course a club toiling for season ticket sales in the run up for the renewal deadline, hoping to sell their punters some optimism.
23

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:14:14
#15 - Johnny Jambo.

I've told you before mate, and I'll tell you again......

You talk far too much sense to be indluging in these lunatic debates. Get out now before you get infected by the madness!!!!
24

hibbie,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 08:15:32
#18 I am working and earning probably 10 times what you are sonny, just the other side of the world at the moment, which makes it 4 pm in the afternoon here, in case you didn't realise all the world is not on the same time, and it isn't flat, and the Jambo stand will not be built, and you will not get a good manager. He, He, I do love dumb *uck Jambos
25

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:16:58
#24.

Talk 107 is the 'mouthpiece' of such media moguls as Tommy Sheridan and Scotty McLue.

Enough said.
26

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:18:38
Brilliant. 0820 hours and we've already started spouting on about jobs, earnings and such other boasts.

I've got a colour telly. Can anyone top that?
27

Johhny Jambo,

28/05/2008 08:22:28
Why would Craig Levein leave Dundee Utd. He has a supportive non interferring chairman, he was appointed to the board. Utd are a well run and well managed club. Why would he want to come back to the madness that is Jambo land?
28

hibbie,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 08:23:01
Dood, just puting the little gobshoite in his place, I have 2 colour telly's ;-)
29

busbyfh,

28/05/2008 08:24:27
# 9

Ignorant statement.
Get your husband to post here in future.
Rangers hold the mantle - now back to your dishes.
30

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:29:32
#29 CJ.

I accept your point and do not necessarily disagree. However, as an outsider looking in, you have to be cynical at the way Hearts publicised this. In my experience as a football supporter (30 years) I have rarely come accross a football club who effectively name their manager to the public prior to signing them.

I do agree that this must have been a ploy, and a cunning one, to lure more renewals in. But is surely has backfired for now anyway. Hearts HAVE placed their eggs in one basket and their next move will be interesting.
31

hibbie,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 08:31:11
#32 Oooopps forgot we all hate the Rankjers as well, just a bigger version of the Jambo's, how did the qudruple, sorry treble, sorry double go. back to you buckfast tramp.
32

Johnny Jambo,

28/05/2008 08:31:41
#14 I don't think he said his ambitions were Motherwell in Europe I think if you read what he said it was that he wanted playing in Europe on his CV there is a difference.

I was one who always said from the start of ther MM Saga that he would not come to Hearts because he had taken Motherwell to Europe and he was his own man, which I think this has proven.
33

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:32:02
CJ.

You and me will have to stop agreeing. This is against the norm and I fear people will start talking!!!

PS - I would post on a hibs site but this paper seems to have an aversion to us this week. Rag.
34

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:32:52
#34 - No - He's the favourite for the Leicester job.
35

Denis Law,

Kaunas 28/05/2008 08:33:56

"With no-one else on their shortlist, Hearts will either have to restart that search from scratch, or go for a stop-gap appointment."

What about Frail? Is he still worker for Vladimir? Maybe Vladimir himself can assume control of team? He can telephone instructions to dugout from weekend holiday villa.
36

Johnny Jambo,

28/05/2008 08:35:44
#25 Dood, you are talking to the wrong "Johhny Jambo" Mate, we have an interloper on the site.
37

Johhny Jambo,

28/05/2008 08:38:15
#41 No we don't
38

Johnny Jambo,

28/05/2008 08:40:07
#42 welcome "Johhny" but I am guessing by your post #15 you are not a Jambo.
AM I right??????
39

Bigwull,

edinburgh 28/05/2008 08:44:20
Motherwell will revert to relegation candidates this season along with Hamilton and Hobos, normal service will be resumed
40

Flip Hamburglar,

NI 28/05/2008 08:44:32
Just scanned the Record online and they appear to have a jump on who the next Hearts manager might be and it lookms like it could be someone who has spent sometime in the Utd. managerial seat. Gordon Chisolm is apparently in the frame.
41

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:45:15
Oh good. Here we go again........
42

Dood,

28/05/2008 08:46:22
#45.

Actually, I'd suggest it's the dream team pairing of......

Jim and Tommy McLean.

43

LochLomond,

Balloch 28/05/2008 08:49:48
The Penny dropped. Dirty Dingus realised that he is appreciated and that he has a steady job at the Well. After he started thinking clearly he realised that there is no future for anybody at the joke team that Hearts have become.

Strachan will get an offer from down south either during the summer break or in the first two months of the season when the first EPL managerial casualties are announced.

Dingus will then exercise his rights in the agreement that he no doubt has at Well to "talk to" the 'tic.

Hearts will get Anonymuscius Crapiboskilus from Lithuania as manager. (If you haven't heard of him he's the one with the best record. He took their version of Vale of Leven Juniors to the semi final of the Lithuanian Junior League Cup.)
44

Flip Hamburglar,

NI 28/05/2008 08:51:49
#45

I sensed a lull and thought it was a good time to mention Chissie. Actually he fits all the criteria, he's Scottish, has a tracke record of taking provincial clubs to Cup Finals, knows the 1st Division inside out so he'll have no problem identifying signing targets now that the belts are being tightened at Tynecastle...
45

Alasdair,

28/05/2008 08:52:26
#16, Flip Hamburglar - Aberdeen got a "favourable draw"??

Dnipro were pumping the likes of Shaktar Donesk at the time the Dons had to play them, and they ended up in one of the toughest groups in the competition.

McGhee's made a wise move here - success at Motherwell, with the financial restraints there, will bring him to the attention of bigger and better clubs. A move to Hearts would risk destroying all that unless Romanov can be trusted to never interfere. Sadly that isn't the case.
46

Flip Hamburglar,

NI 28/05/2008 08:54:58
#50

They were good but beatable (or at least drawable) as the result demonstrated. And I meant the draw to get to the group stages, I think that would be the limit for Motherwell. Aberdeen's group was a killer.
47

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 28/05/2008 09:07:44
#43. I am guessing by all your posts that you are not a Hearts fan, am I right?
48

John H,

edinburgh 28/05/2008 09:17:13
44 Your clubs clubs will be going to India soon.
49

ValdasTheMan,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 09:37:39
A few folk think that Craig Levein is top of our list.

If I was him, I would not even think of it, because...
i) Already been there and resigned
ii) Have a good working relationship with current chairman and board of directors, who don't interfere with footballing matters
iii) Have improved DUtd significantly this season, only just failing in UEFA qualification
iv) His defensively minded football tactics contradicts Mad Vlads preferred attacking style
50

ValdasTheMan,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 09:39:37
#45 NO WAY, doesn't fit the bill on so many levels.

Credit where credit is due though, he's done a great job getting QoS to the SC final.
51

wee162,

Sunny Leith 28/05/2008 09:53:40
#54
"iv) His defensively minded football tactics contradicts Mad Vlads preferred attacking style"

It's something I've criticised Levein for before, but that's not a current valid criticism of him. Dundee Utd played pretty expansively in the vast majority of games I saw them in this season. They were playing with Flood, Gomis, Hunt, and usually another striker.

He won't go to Hearts anyway. He left rather than working with Romanov to start with. I hardly think Romanov has made Hearts attractive to Levein now...

We Own The Capital
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SouthSideHibs,

28/05/2008 09:59:32
#56, think you're right Dave, MM bottled the chance to quadruple his salary.

Bottled the chance to spend 12m on players.

What a bottler MM is.

Frail must, surely now, stay...
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28/05/2008 10:01:34
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kiwidoug,

22 In A Row 28/05/2008 10:11:33
This guy Hibbie has been good for a laugh on this post. He is transparently one of these people who hate Hearts, ironically because it has been over 100 years since Hibs won the Cup and over 50 years since they won anything of major significance. Presumeably that's why he dribbles his venom on Hearts stories.

I have news for him. Fisrstly, it is not Hearts fault that Hibs are an abject failure. Secondly, he supports a small selling club whose chances of winning anything diminishes further with the passing of each year.
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Iain Bhern,

28/05/2008 10:16:10
#60, well we all know what a wookie is don't we. It's a large hairy creature only capable of making strange noises !!!
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Iain Bhern,

28/05/2008 10:19:38
#62 passing on rumours is the point though. They are only rumours. I could easily list a number of players I've been told will arrive at Easter Road this year but as they are only rumours I don't see the point. I'm just happy when I see the players come in knowing that my source was accurate.
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SouthSideHibs,

28/05/2008 10:22:44
#65. Not what I heard from a source close to the Club, but hey you go ahead and make things up...

Bit like the done deal, normal service, war chest etc.

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Iain Bhern,

28/05/2008 10:35:10
#67, trouble is too many of them beLIEve the spin that comes out of Tynecastle. It just hasn't sunk in yet that their owner comes from a culture where it was the norm to tell the people what they wanted to hear but do nothing to change things.
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TangerineDreamer,

28/05/2008 10:39:25
##54

Excellent post apart from the factual error in (iv). Utd scored more goals that Hearts this season, and Jambos played the last 5 games in the diddy league.
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busbyfh,

28/05/2008 10:42:46
Baffles the hell out of me how McGhee comes out of this unscathed .

If he had made an agreement to go and see David Murray and at the last minute changed his mind , didn't go and turned him down , there would be an uproar that MM had no integrity and should have not agreed to the meeting in the first place - never mind the u-turn at the last minute.
But it's OK to do this as Vlad is Johnny foreigner who everybody is supposed to hate !
I hope MM at least had the good grace to phone Romanov to apologise for changing his mind as to attending the meeting. Somehow I doubt it.
(and I am no Vlad fan)
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Vic Burns,

Temple Bar 28/05/2008 10:59:20
So the hunt for a new manager goes on at hearts, maybe now they can go back to that P.E. teacher, Sergei Baltacha, who knocked them back, and say pretty please. or that fella that maneges in the Faroe Islands they tried to get. hehe
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Johnny Jambo,

28/05/2008 11:08:26
#60,61 &62 Guys, it was no secret that Hearts had approached MM at the end of last year or in January, certainly around that time and were told to wait till the end of the season, which they did, they had initial chats then MM was invited to speak to VR then decided it was not right for him. Maybe he was using the Hearts approach to get an improved deal from Well but lets be honest he would not be the first Manager to use that ploy so he cannot be blamed.

Wookie and Victorian yes I think you guys were only passing on info you had heard through the grapevine or rumour mill, but again nothing wrong with that. At the end of the day that is what these threads are all about.
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Johnny Jambo,

28/05/2008 11:10:06
#70 I dont think MM has done anything wrong, he thought about it and changed his mind and received apay rise into the bargain from the Well.
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the big team r hibs an u know it,

28/05/2008 11:33:41
no.63. thats it keep bringing up the past, if it makes u feel better!! let me point this out to you, if hibs r a small selling club then what are hearts? Let me think, eh, a debt ridden small selling club who are owned b a mad dictator and there aint anything the good fans of HMFC can do about it!!!
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Johnny Jambo,

28/05/2008 11:38:51
#73 there are many who come on here and say they have inside knowledge,and yes most of it is tosh but again it usually starts debate and it is then up to individuals to decide for themselves what they believe and what not.

You are right they should be man enough to come back and admit they were wrong. Although I have known information which was known to be true at the time and then something to go wrong and things change.
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Denis Law,

Kaunas 28/05/2008 11:42:56

#58 victorian

You say:

"if it was all about the uefa cup or not getting the assurances of total autonomy... why did he take until he was about to fly to vilnius before he decided to change his mind?"

You miss out one important fact. Money. That is another reason for McGhee consider going to Hearts.

Yet again you twist facts to suit agenda. Take set back like a man and admit you are wrong.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 28/05/2008 11:47:51
How come Hibs managed to secure a manager so quickly after JC's departure?

Likewise when Tony M left for England, JC was appointed quickly.

Why the contrast in fortunes?

Slightly puzzled.
Zandvoort.
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ValdasTheMan,

Edinburgh 28/05/2008 11:52:06
#69 Fair point, I haven't seen much of DU this season. It was purely based on when CL was at Hearts.

To all the Hobos who are spouting the usual drivel, make the most of it, normal service WILL be resumed next season. Just think.....
IF you had qualified for the UEFA Cup
IF you had a trophy this year
IF you had won 'the' cup this year.

THEN you would have something to be proud of

But, you DIDN'T, so back to your own threads and talk about Pantyliners 'big' summer signings. Last summer it was Collins signing Donaldson and O'Brien, one has jumped out, the other 2 want to.
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28/05/2008 11:52:13
#80, because we're just a wee team that managers can use as a stepping stone to bigger things.

Hertz are a very big team, the third force in Scotland, who do not want to just employ any tom, dick or harry but someone who will be loyal, not just using them to earn more money...?
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28/05/2008 11:59:12
#81 107 - I dont know that people believe Wookie more than others but sometimes when a story seems credible some will just believe it.
But that situation should lead to people not trusting future comments by those who post what say say to be from inside sources.
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28/05/2008 12:10:42
#87 enjoy your lunch mate.
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#89 Yes, but you miss point. McGhee turned around at airport because of money offer from Motherwell.

So why do you write such rubbish and twist facts? Is it to defend dj friend who gets wrong facts?
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Hearts will not get Tom or Harry for their next yes man but they will get a Dick for certain.
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28/05/2008 12:54:56
#26 - how did you manage to get such a good job when you're only 12? I must tell my nephew, he needs a payrise from what he earns on his paper round.

Unless you're a footballer, there's no way somebody as obviously thick as you could earn that much money, not for long and not legally anyway.
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28/05/2008 16:28:04
Never a dull moment at tiny...
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Bleeding Heart...,

28/05/2008 18:50:24
#26 "hibbie,Edinburgh" - Silly me! I should have known from your nom-de-plume that you were on the other side of the world, shouldn't I? What was I thinking about, eh?

There again, some might say Niddrie is the other side of the world (no offence to Niddrie intended).

And you're a big earner, too? Well of course that automatically means you're a great guy.

I mean, you only have to read your petty, child-like, vitriolic, posts to see that at a glance that you're a great guy. Oozing charm.

So, let me guess: what is it you do to me remunerated so handsomely? The Diplomatic Service? Mmm...something tells me that's not it. Or perhaps you're an aid worker easing the suffering of the afflicted? Nah. I don't think that's not "you" either, is it?

Do you write children's stories..?
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Glorious Hearts,

29/05/2008 09:20:04
#26 what kind of insecurity leads you to boast on an anonymous message board that you "probably" earn 10 times more than someone you don't know?

Is it THAT small?
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Bleeding Heart...,

29/05/2008 20:41:06
#105 LOL Biley - you really are at your funniest when you try to claim some sort of moral high ground!

You, the self-confessed nark. Perhaps your little "pot" & "kettle" swipe is closer to home than you realise. But how come you don't see that, eh, Mu Cha-Cha?

And how typical of you to defend that other eejit. Recognise a kindred spirit, did you?

But seriously Biley. When are you going to answer my questions? Do you need me to repeat them..?
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Bleeding Heart...,

31/05/2008 02:15:01
#110 - Are you suggesting that I removed your earler posts? If so, you're a liar as well as an idiot.

You're obviously not only an erse but a fantasist.

Your allegation that I can't cope with an alternative viewpoint is of course fallacious.

Anyone who reads these threads on a regular basis will know that you clutching at straws with a ridiculous statement like that.

Then again, anyone who reads these threads on any regular basis knows that you're a self-confessed eejit.

Now, how about answering my questions..?
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Bleeding Heart...,

31/05/2008 16:45:19
#112 My questions have been awaiting a response for much longer, Biley.

I think - and you know - it's your turn to answer.

Here's what I asked you...

"If you're going to persist with your self-appointed campaign to "irritate lots of people" AND you've admitted that you regard such behaviour on your part as "SO, SO worthwhile", then I think my questions are perfectly reasonable.

So, I repeat. Just what do you get out of doing this? Why do you behave in this way?"

C'mon Biley. We're all waiting...
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Bleeding Heart...,

31/05/2008 18:36:21
#114 I keep forgetting that you don't read what people say to you, Biley.

But just to avoid doubt on your part, I'll repeat again the reason why I think you owe us an explanation for your infestation...

"If you're going to persist with your self-appointed campaign to "irritate lots of people" AND you've admitted that you regard such behaviour on your part as "SO, SO worthwhile", then I think my questions are perfectly reasonable".

As for me being "strange" well, it seems you don't do irony either Biley, does it Mu Cha-Cha?
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Bleeding Heart...,

01/06/2008 12:01:55
#116 Your paranoia - and flawed logic - is all too evident, Mu Cha-Cha.

Why would my claim to be posing a reasonable question imply that any question from you is necessarily "unreasonable"?

It doesn't imply any such thing, of course. But then, perhaps you know this. Perhaps this is just your way of trying to avoid a direct response to my questions.

What are you frightened of revealing about yourself, Biley? Are you concerned that if you give truthful answers to my questions, your "fans" on here might see you in a less-than-favourable light?

But if I remember rightly, YOU don't CARE what people think, do you? So, why the reticence..?
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Bleeding Heart...,

01/06/2008 23:42:55
Hardly the first question, Biley.

Like I said, my questions have been awaiting your response for a long time now. I think it's only fair you answer me first.

"How many times have Hearts been relegated?" What kind of a question is THAT? Another diversionary tactic? I don't doubt you know that answer, Biley.

In any case, I've also no doubt YOUR answer will be a lot more fascinating to the regulars on here - wouldn't you say..?


 

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