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Hawick aim high with draft picks to inspire rising young talents



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Published Date: 30 July 2008
THE prospect of Chris Paterson and Dan Parks running out at Mansfield Park in the green of Hawick this season might seem laughably incongruous to most in Scottish rugby, but Jim Hay insisted yesterday that the draft 'signing' of the Scotland internationalists was a very positive move for his club and the game in general.
The Premier One Forum, which represents the views of the 12 Premiership Division One clubs, came up with the idea of a US-style draft system in an effort to end the annual squabbling about which clubs released professionals could play for. Unusually
for club rugby, it seems to have won fairly widespread support, at least before the season starts.

The skills of most of Scotland's current 74 professional players will not be seen in club colours again, at least until they retire from the top level, but only 44 can play on any weekend. Allowing for the fact that some will be injured or resting there remains scope for a healthy contingent of around 20 of the country's most talented players to be closely involved with club rugby this season.

With Andy Robinson and Sean Lineen at the helm, the pro teams are more enthusiastic than ever to embrace clubs and build bridges between the pro and amateur ranks, while Geoff Cross is one player, and a born-and-bred Gala man, who speaks passionately about how good it was for him to play for Hawick last season. He duly finished 2007-8 touring Argentina with Scotland.

Hay is another admirer of the tie-up and the Hawick coach is confident that Paterson and Parks, alongside his other draft picks Matt Dey, Opeta Palepoi (who plays for Glasgow, but lives in Galashiels still], Calum MacRae and Matt Mustchin, will appear at Mansfield Park this season. "We might not see them all in the famous green jersey, although that might be good PR," he said, with a wry smile, "but I think we'll see them all here at some point or other.

"Some of the guys might not play as much as they'd like for the pro teams so they could be a huge benefit to us in passing on their experience in training and games, but even with guys very unlikely to be available just a few appearances at the club could be a huge bonus.

"Dan, for example, is a very skilful rugby player and having him at Mansfield for a few sessions in the season, working especially with Rory Hutton, who has the talent to go a long way, could be huge for our guys and the club. Chris is the same. With his importance to Edinburgh he is never going to be turning out in a Hawick jersey, is he? But he will be welcomed with open arms at Hawick because he is a quality player.

"Chris is a Gala man but times have moved on since the days when players would be cast out for going to another Borders club – I coached Gala remember. He is also a proud Borderer and while Gala are not yet back in Division One, I'm sure Chris would rather be attached to a Borders club than an Edinburgh or Glasgow one."

Hay also admitted a concern about the draft, in that some young players who will be released quite often have been placed with their third or fourth club in as many seasons, which, he argued, was not good for their continuity.

"There's also the fact we have Calum MacRae, a Melrose boy, while Melrose have Geoff Cross, who was a big success with us all last season. Common sense should allow us to swap."

Actually, he could have, as the forum gave clubs three days to do so after the initial draft, but Hay admitted he did not realise that before stating that the draft should be conducted around a table rather than via telephone conference call, as was the case this year.

"The only other concern I have is just whispers I'm hearing of some pro players saying 'there's no way I'm playing for them'. I hope that's not the case because we need everyone to buy into this for it to work well, and have real benefits, for both the pro players and the club game."

As for what we can expect from Hawick on the park this season, with or without their draft stars, Hay is reasonably optimistic.

"In the last few years it's been a case of bringing on young boys.

But it's not always clear-cut. Our home form was excellent last season, but we could hardly buy a win on the road, and that was down to inexperience. Every year we're losing more experienced players, mainly to other clubs, but also for jobs or to travel.

"So our squad is still pretty young and rugby is still all about pace and power. You can have great young players, but in a howling gale, ankle deep in mud, the strongest team will win nine times out of ten. So, we're bringing in a couple of foreign players with experience. I'd rather that than poaching from other clubs."







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  • Last Updated: 30 July 2008 12:05 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Reiver1,

Banglamung 30/07/2008 05:11:20
Nice one Jim, the Expat Robbie Dye will be keeping a close eye on this coming season, away the Greens!
2

BigKennyMac,

30/07/2008 09:31:45
1 - errrr speak english please. This is a BRITISH site.

Big Kenny Bluenose
3

Dave Daydream,

30/07/2008 11:13:20
how good would that be to see Parks and Paterson turn out for Hawick - who would play 10?!!
4

Scottee,

30/07/2008 12:28:51
I'd play mossy at 10 and parks in the front row.

Moan the robbie dyes...
5

Keyser Soze,

30/07/2008 13:56:24
looks like Hawick drew the short straw with the magicman DP.

If they have ay sense they'll leave Parks on the bench - something that both scotland and Glasgow should have done a long time ago.

suppose you can give him a game in the Borders league matches, they are essentially worthless anyway.
6

Brigandaca,

New York 30/07/2008 14:30:32
#3 - That's easy, Rory Hutton would be 10.
7

Manic Maroon,

YM Clubrooms beer garden 30/07/2008 15:08:12
#5 - A 'worthless' league?
Unless things change this season the Border League clubs will gain far more from sponsor's money of that 'worthless' league than any other Club will from SRU league/cup sponsorship

On the rugby front, as with every derby game, every Club raises its game to put one over their neighbours and the intensity in these games is only matched in the closing stages of national leagues when getting towards promotion / relegation decisions, so hardly worthless on that front either as it keeps those Clubs at match fitness while elsewhere Clubs need to drum up friendlies that far better fit your 'worthless' description.


As for Paterson at Hawick, the Gala Grapevine has it that he stopped off at Netherdale recently and dropped off his excess kit for distribution to their players. Guess we know where his heart still lies.
8

Keyser Soze,

30/07/2008 16:42:40
yes #7 a worthless league. Its a load of chippy people playing against another load of chippy people who would be happy staying in their tiny Borders bubble and not venturing anywhere outside.

The sooner they wise up to the fact that Scottish rugby exists outside of the Borders the better it will be for Scottish rugby.

Dont know who i feel sorry for to be honest - Dan Parks or Hawick
9

JBA,

30/07/2008 21:20:40
Keyser Soze. As far as crowds are concerned rugby exists only in the Borders. Crowds of 1000 is the norm for Border League games whereas SRU prem 1 city games can manage a couple of hundred on a good day or if playing a Border club maybe 500, the difference being supporters from the Borders.
10

Manic Maroon,

YM Clubrooms to get away from the midges 30/07/2008 21:43:45
#8
So no 'slicker bias or jealousy there then.

While JBA at #9 is right with the turnouts, for the record, not everyone here thinks we should be pulling out of the Cup, and are fed up hearing the threats 'on behalf of the Border League' every year and then having every Club in the area look a prat when they routinely back down.

The 2 can live together and most will probably think a re-formatting of the Cup is needed to ensure an even share of home/away games if no monies are to be forthcoming (Gala went 4 years with no home cup tie, and for 2 of them got zip participation money - they won't be alone but I would think that group is in single figures). So its time our verbose Border League members get their heads together and put together a coherent proposal that will better suit all Clubs and have it properly debated by SRU Board/AGM.

Then again any suggestion from South of Soutra is generally vetoed by the city Clubs before it can be fully discussed as they always think there is some hidden agenda or Borders centric slant that they just can't work out.

As with the 7s circuit (formerly criticised, now praised) the Border League is gaining recognition for its benefits. When Gala ran the Nails close in the Cup this season a Nail committee man admitted afterwards that Gala having had 2 full on games over Xmas and New Year were the better prepared and unlucky not to cause the upset.

The BL has been here for over a century and will not disappear because the SRU and its city boys demand it, it has adapted to the times and kept its worth. Time the SRU tried the same with the Cup.
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31/07/2008 08:43:08
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J.A.,

31/07/2008 08:48:12
#8
"The sooner they wise up to the fact that Scottish rugby exists outside of the Borders" Eye right!!
Where have you been hiding for the last few years?
Nobody appears to have told McKay and Hadden that rugby exists outside Edinburgh and Glasgow.
13

IaininSelkirk,

31/07/2008 16:42:53
Nice to see that Keyser Soze is still chipping away - just wish he'd find something new to chip at. It's not like The Border League is a new thing is it? One day he may convince himself that The Border League is as "worthless" to others as it is to him, but at this phase in his evolution he doesn't know one end of a rugby ball from the other!
14

Dave Daydream,

31/07/2008 17:29:03
Its interetsing to see that the cup final is on SUNDAY May 9th this season. Is there a reason for it being on the Sunday and not the Saturday? Been looking at the fixtures and there doesn't seem to be any 15 aside games on the Saturday!!

Unless Murrayfield is being used for something on the Saturday seems very strange to play cup final on the Sunday
15

Manic Maroon,

YM Clubrooms to avoid the natural shower 31/07/2008 17:49:47
#14 - Come on Dave you can say it.....

As Dave rightly points out there are no 15s games on, but there is most definitely a 7s tournament, and yes in the Borders (oooh, I can just hear the bellows of outrage starting). Not something the SRU has widely publicised and just waiting for people to notice it themselves.

Think the words nest and hornets could come into play now you've raised it Dave.

 

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