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McCoist plays key role in victory



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ANIMATED Rangers assistant manager Ally McCoist can often be seen on the touchlines "kicking every ball" as he watches his side in action, but he took the cliche literally on Wednesday when the Ibrox side put their title chances on the line against Motherwell.
With the clock ticking, and Rangers still being held 0-0 by Mark McGhee's side, a Motherwell clearance was hoofed down towards the Bill Struth Stand.

Showing the same rapier-like reactions which bagged him 355 goals during his playing career at Rangers, super Ally sped out of the technical area to stop the errant clearance – overstepping the line and controlling the ball while it was marginally still in play.

As an embarrassed McCoist was ordered back to the dug-out, referee Charlie Richmond was forced to restart the game with a good old-fashioned 'stoat-up' instead of awarding Rangers a throw-in.

From the bounce ball, though, Barry Ferguson won possession, a corner was forced, and the captain popped up with the winner. A touch of divine intervention from McCoist?





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  • Last Updated: 08 May 2008 10:29 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Rangers FC
 
1

The best-Rangers,

09/05/2008 00:41:55
Epic stuff from the super one. Had half of Kerrydale street beating the kids over that one.
2

The best-Rangers,

09/05/2008 01:32:45
Petition...

We, the signatories of this petition, are requesting that Football Association of Ireland ask fans of the Republic to only wear the Republic of Ireland shirts and regalia at
international matches.

Why do some fans wear the shirts of a foreign team at Ireland football matches? Are they ashamed of the Irish jersey? I'd imagine that if someone turned up at an England match in a Barcelona shirt, they'd be laughed at by all the other fans. Similarly, if some supporter of les bleus was seen sporting a Bayern Munich or Ajax jersey at a match involving France, he'd be treated with the appropriate contempt.
3

The best-Rangers,

09/05/2008 01:32:58
So why should some Irish fans be different? I'm referring of course to those fans who wear Glasgow Celtic shirts at Republic of Ireland matches. Glasgow Celtic is a Scottish team with some obsolete links to Ireland that are no longer relevant. That in itself would be of little consequence were it not for the fact that Glasgow Celtic's fans comprise one half of a low level Catholic versus Protestant bigotry that has been rumbling in Scottish
society for centuries.
4

The best-Rangers,

09/05/2008 01:33:20
Given the history of this country and island, it should be obvious that any association between Irishness and either side in this sectarianism would be very prejudicial to support levels for the team. There is a well documented
problem in Northern Ireland where Roman Catholics don't feel welcome at Windsor Park. We don't need to have the same problem down here where the Republic of Ireland team becomes identified with Catholicism. So I'm calling
on the Football Association of Ireland to respectfully ask fans of the Republic to only wear the Republic of Ireland shirts and regalia at international matches.


http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/roishirtsonly/index.html
5

Patrick 162,

09/05/2008 01:52:21
Most of the real Irishmen I know are rather embarrassed by this faux-Irishness of the Celtic fans.
6

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 08:58:41

tbr

would it be ok for me to wear a t-shirt with a shamrock on it? OK with you?
7

Wee Pal Joe,

09/05/2008 09:00:22
Some Celtic fans were going ballistic about the McCoist thing yesterday but this confirms my recollection of the incident, namely that McCoist's misjudgement put Rangers at a disadvantage. It was going to be a Rangers throw-in but Ally's intervention turned it into a drop ball.
8

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 09:01:27
maybe a panathaniakos shirt, or a Celtic shirt? Oh wait, that will mean I'm a catholic then, would it? You would be wrong.

9

Steinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn goal!!,

09/05/2008 09:03:50
perhaps it (the shamrock) would be best placed on the reverse of your boxers...somewhat centrally ;-0
10

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 09:08:04
Cheats never prosper, as you gers will find out when Zenit take 4 or 5 off you, then the matter of a Saturday 12:30ko at Motherwell.

One win in 8 away matches against top 6 sides, do rangers really think they will win 3 away in a row?? lol....dream on.
11

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 09:09:53
9 thats a real classic....you sad sad man
12

Steinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn goal!!,

09/05/2008 09:34:08
11 is it in the back pocket then haha

look at your own statistics pal..and excluding your decidedly sticky patch in probably the last four matches it would be fair to say that without the sporting integrity of some officials wearing spec saver signs your erses would have been out the window long ago, away and think up a decent argument...and when your trying we will be basking in the glory of our euro final..... 5 star world champs !! come on the Gers!
13

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 09:38:47
12

Delusions of Grandeur from the gutter!!! Man are you gonna be hurting over the next fortnight!! McCurry isn't allowed to ref ALL your remaining games!



14

Steinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn goal!!,

09/05/2008 09:46:41
13 hold on delusions is that no whit all the refs in your last games are having.

delusions that people would consider because you were wearing something green you were catholic.....no chum the only person who is in or from the gutter here is you, as is patently obvious from your posts, now be a god boy and run away home
15

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 10:05:28
14 is that it? The best you can do? Does your mother know your not at school today, or are you a 'special' boy with 'special' needs and have to stay home cos the bus broke down? No, that can't be right, your name mentions C.Stein, scorer in CWC final '72 when you received the cup in the toilet! Away to work now, McDonalds should be opening soon.

16

Invisible,

09/05/2008 10:22:51
ITBP What are you on about? Rangers beat Motherwell despite some very shaky decisions against them, yet Celtic have won their last three games purely because of very shaky decisions going their way. I don't think Rangers are the team that needs help from the ref.
17

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 10:33:06
16 oh really? Explain please! Really grasping at straws with your empty statement, give us the facts
18

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 10:40:15
#17

Glad to oblige.

Ist ten minutes Craigan manhandles Weir in the box, not a stonewaller but seen them given. 2nd half - Broadfoot gets pushed in the back from a corner for another ggod penalty claim. Late in the game Adam is held down by Malcolm for what looked like a defo penalty. Would not expect to get all three but should have been given at least one.
No conspiracy mind, just poor decisions.
19

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 10:53:23
18 you cant have it both ways. So many times I've seen gers players this season manhandling the opposition, or even the ball itself(Cueller in the LC Final? No penalty, BF in the semi as he scored??), jumping at players when no chance of getting the ball(unsporting behaviour?) and pushing/pulling at EVERY corner they defend.....but ok maybe you will take the point that these things happen in EVERY game for EVERY team every weekend, so come on. Bet you Bob Malcolm was devastated the ref didn't spot the infringment you say occurred:) We all know where that ex-gers allegiances lie, even by the one red one yellow card he has received v Celtic in the last 2 meetings......

WhatI'm waiting on now is Invisible(has he disappeared?) to tell me about the allegedly disputed corner we got last week, again something that happens in EVERY game for EVERY team every weekend in EVERY country in the world!!
20

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 11:02:36
#19 ITBP

Agreed, these things happen but again, YOU cant argue against the fact that Celtc have had at least their fair share of decisions this season. Goal that never was v Aberdeen, offside goals v Falkirk and Rangers, stonewall penaltys twice not given v Rangers.....i could go on.

As i said theres no conspiracy and both OF get more decisions than the smaller clubs. Its just the way of the world and is replicated everywhere. What this season HAS done though is make a mockery of tim's claims that Refs favour the gers.
21

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 11:23:46
JJ I'm not going to get into the anti-tim refs argument, we would both be wasting our energies. Agreed that the big clubs always seem to get more of the decisions, but to me it only appears that way as the 'bigger' teams tend to do most of the attacking, having mst possession. Incompetent Scottish refs? We saw how Dougal was rediculed for sending off that Hungarian(?) lad in the uefa early rounds when everybody in the world but him saw that the lad had been heavily assaulted. The refs here in Holland are just as bad if not worse.

What's your prediction for a score v Zenit next week? Do you think watty will go 4-4-2 again as last night? Heard the unfamiliarity of that formation had your lads a wee bit confused last night:)
22

paulmac,

surrey 09/05/2008 11:40:24
#20

There is a world of a difference....between marginal offside decisions.....which every team gets through human error at some point....

To a player being grabbed and thrown to the floor...to stop him scoring....as Cueller did in the CIS final....

It would seem the Gers fans are grasping at straws by using marginal decisions as some sort of confirmation that Celtic have benefitted more than others?!

The fact is marginal offsides have been happening since day dot for every team....

The Cueller incident...the Bazza goal...the Bazza behaviour towards refs generally....the Aberdeen pitch battle....these are not marginal decisions...these are incidents as overt as they can be....and the only punishment handed out was to Lee McCulloch for a high flying karate kick on an opponent...that the ref had to told to send him off by the assistant...

No....I believe you'll find Rangers have had a very fortunate run of events....which has assisted them in the season they've had!
23

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 11:42:35
#21 ITBP

Cool mate, re big teams, they also have a far bigger crowd making more noise, that can influence refs.

Prediction? 1-0 Rangers or 1-1 and extra time and penalties. We will start 4-5-1 but change to a more attacking formation if we go behind.

In a way i would love for us to go 4-4-2 but its not the time to change the tactics.
Its funny actually, the only reason Rangers are being so heavily criticised for the style is because its been so successfull. At the start of the season a realistic scenario would have been CL qualification, at least one of the domestic cups and a better challenge in the league. If we had achieved just that people would have said "Right phase one complete, must improve next season".
The thing is that is STILL the case. Iexpect 3 or 4 quality players to be added next season the playing style to be expanded a bit. People forget we are 1 year into a huge rebuilding job.
24

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 12:21:46
JJ I tend to think that it is a little bit bogus, the criticism of rangers tactics; play to your strengths and make your own luck....style and flair is all very well, we had loads of it under Tommy Burns but it didn't get us any silverware. For definite they could have shown a bit more willing to move forward, but as I said, play to your strengths.
For sure it will be a long match for you guys on Wednesday but no-one can say you will lose, we've been saying that since you drew Osasuna:) but I would be pretty nervous if Celtic had to face a team that put 4 past Bayern last match. Either way, it's been an achievement to remember. Your toughest match of this period may well prove to be the Sat'day 12:30ko v M'well away after the UEFA Final.
I take your point about rebuilding; if we are going to keep any distance between our teams(as we are ahead on our own rebuilding)winning the SPL is paramount.

Gotta do some work. Enjoy the day.
25

Publilius Syrus,

09/05/2008 12:59:10
JesterCoist should have been red carded and sent straight to the stand with further SFA punishments to follow follow.

Thats IF the ref had been doing his job professionally.

However,Charlie Richmond in this instance failed miserably and in a feebleness that only comes into play when its a Rangers player/official that should receive the sanction.
In any case cheats are always choked in the wind up....and that includes ref-assisted-Jesters.
26

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 13:17:45
Yes what a heinous crime committed by McCoist, stopping Rangers getting possession of the ball like that. Should have been hung,drawn and quartered eh! You d1ck.

Isn,t it noticeable that stupid, latin sounding, user name is always followed by a post from a complete tit.
27

invictager,

kent 09/05/2008 13:23:44
Having done a bit a googling make that Syrian name.
28

Publilius Syrus,

09/05/2008 13:46:50
#28

Was that one of mine ?

Oh aye thats right,ah remember that wan noo.

And yes it is very fitting.
Isn`t it.
29

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 14:17:22
#29
I do not disagree that McCoist had no right to be outwith his technical area and should haver been spoken to. My disagreement was with the way such a "big thing" was being made out of nothing.

I would also point out that rangers scored from a corner, not a pass from Ally, and as many tic fans have pointed out in the last week merely having a corner, awarded correctly or incorrectly, does not mean a goal automatically follows.
30

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 14:21:52
#31

I thought we had brought him on to try get us a goal.
31

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 14:22:21
Anyway surely a more fitting motto would be mutualus consentus
32

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 14:22:52
#32
At the time I thought we may have to.
33

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 14:23:30
#24 ITBP

Cheers mate. Good to have a decent banter with someone who can see BOTH sides of things. Paulmac etc take note.................
34

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 14:24:31
#34 Invictager

Would have been more effective than Darche and Boyd were.
35

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 14:29:11
#22 Paulmac

There was nothing marginal about Caldwell's handball was there?....or VoH's tackle....or hartleys....

Can you not for one minute engage your brain and realise that BOTH teams benefit from decisions and you lot have certainly had your fair share? I wont hold my breath............
36

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 14:31:52
#36

Thought Boyd put in a decent shift considering he has played virtually no games recently. He should get another game on saturday as he scores freely against DU

JCD looked a bit out of sorts but will be needed on Wednesday as no-one else has the pace to play that role.

Hopefully we will not just be relying on that to win. I will be one of the thousands without tickets who will go up there to watch in good company.
37

Publilius Syrus,

09/05/2008 14:32:50
Its great fun really when LIVE telly catches a Rangers player/official red-handedly ;) committing a punishable offense that goes unpunished.

Mad (my erse) Vlad and his son are the latest to point that out and said that corruptions in Scottish football go regularly and unjustifiably in favour of Rangers.

Vlad has singlehandedly blown the once cozy relationship between Rangers and Heart of Midlothian assunder,..not half !!
38

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 14:36:26
#38 Invictager

I canny make it due to work commitments. Gutted. Il head into the city centre though where there should be a good atmosphere.

Wasnt blaming Boyd - he was bound to be rusty but him and JCD wont work as a partnership. Too much space between them. I would start with Boyd and Cousin tomorrow and keep JCD fresh.
39

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 14:45:59
#40 JJ
Tend to agree that is what will happen even though Im still p1ssed off with Cousin for his patent lack of effort against Hibs. Still think his only loyalty is to his bank account.

We could give nacho a run out through the middle as I dont think Walter will start him on Wednesday.More likely he will be "super sub" yet again, and given what he has already done this year he may well live up to the name. There is a man who plays for his team, proving you don't need to be Scottish to play for the jersey.

Would also like to see Weir rested and Dailly played at centre back.

Next weeks lineup

Alexander
Whittaker Cuellar Weir Papac
Hemdanni
Davis Thomson Ferguson McCulloch/Adam
JCD
40

Jealousy,jealousy,

09/05/2008 14:58:07
#41 Invictager

Cousin annoys me too, could be a great player but his attitude sucks sometimes. Still ragin about his card v Fiorentina - it seemed as though he was determined to get sent off. He was still flying in with his arms up AFTER being booked.
41

Invisible,

09/05/2008 15:04:32
#19 ITBP Yes, I had disappeared - I was off doing some work. Happily, JJ has replied for me at #18 and #20.

Incidentally, I was in no way saying that these were corrupt or biased decisions that went your way, purely that you only won those matches because you had the benefit of some decisions that were quite simply wrong. In light of that, it was a bit rich for you to say that Rangers only win with the ref's help. Accusing them of being cheats was also rather harsh.
42

Backofthenet,

09/05/2008 15:21:01
#29,

McCoist was not on the field of play. He was a yard or so outside the technical area. And he turned what should have been a Rangers' throw into a bounce-up.
43

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 15:34:40
JJ
cheers, same back at you; banter and exchanging views is much more enjoyable than throwing abuse at each other.

Invisible

Lets not say cheating, let's call it 'professionalism':) As far as McCurry goes, there is one incident that happened(v DU I think) earlier this season that to me showed BLATANT favouritism.
Gers freekick from near left hand touchline some 40yrds out. Attackers and defenders gathered along the 18yrd box; in comes the freekick from roughly 45% angle and as BF rises to flick-head the ball goalwards the linesman flags for 2 gers in off side positions. Not BF but that is irrelevant. Gers players insist mcCurry 'discusses' this with the linesman, which he does and overturns the offside(s) and gives the goal!! What is the linesman for? Why did mcCurry even find it necessary to go to his linesman to discuss an offside flag in this situation? You trust your linesman, part of your team to make the correct shout....any other ref would have waved away gers protests but not him. I have to say I have never seen anything like that in my life and was a clear statement of bias. IMO. If you showed this clip to any referee worth his salt he would be amazed as to why mcCurry felt he had to even question let alone overturn his linesman's flag.

That single incident convinces me that mcCurry is a crook.
44

Backofthenet,

09/05/2008 15:37:29
#45,

Mike McCurry did not "overturn" anything in that incident. He stuck by his original decision after checking with his assistant (I was there).
45

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 15:46:36
#45
That incident stems from the ridiculously complicated offside law we are stuck with these days. Ist phase 2nd phase etc, interfering with play or not blah blah...

To say McCurry is a crook is plain silly.

46

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 15:46:50
Come on! He cancelled the goal aknowledged by the flag, the gers players hassled him to go to his linesman and he changed his mind! Why? If his original decision was to allow the goal as you say then why were the gers players upset?? WHY was the flag overturned?
47

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 15:50:40
invitager

how did he 'miss' the pretty blatant BF handball in the semi....we have all seen the pics where McC is 10yrds away looking directly at the play with an unrestricted view. Can't accept that as incompetence, no way.
48

Publilius Syrus,

09/05/2008 15:54:44
The worst, most blatantly biased and corrupt decision in Scottish Football that I have ever seen was in Hearts game against Rangers in the semi final of the CIS cup this season.

That match is now commonly refered to as "Basket-Balls-Semi".

It was when Basket-Ball was standing with his back to the Hearts goal inside the "D"on the edge of the box.
The ball was played into him whereby he controlled the ball with his upper right arm before patting the ball into place with his right hand then volleying the ball into the net.

The Very Reverend Mike McCurry was the ref then too.
The incident was caught on LIVE telly,showing that The Very Reverend had an uninterrupted clear view of the foul play and simply refused to carry out his duty as charged by his profession.

The Very Reverend has never come onto "whistleblower" to justify his biasedness and none of us will hold our breath that he ever finds the courage to do so.

That,what can only be described as a blatantly corrupt decision, cost Hearts a place in the final against Dundee United.
49

Backofthenet,

09/05/2008 16:04:20
"how did he 'miss' the pretty blatant BF handball in the semi" (#49)

Hearts had handled the ball twice (and brought down Darcheville) in their box and no penalties were given. The second Hearts handball was just before the Ferguson goal. Mr McCurry had set a high standard for what was to be judged a deliberate handball....
50

Bemused and above it all,

09/05/2008 16:05:52
Ok, can we re run the Cuellar incident in the CIS final again?
2 players both grappling each other, 6 and half a dozen, where the difference is is that 1 player turned into another, away from the ball before falling/being thrown/pushed (call it what you like) to the ground, seen them given but the key point is 1 player continued to face the ball and attempt to get to it, 1 didnt. The ref made his decision based on this.
If we are going historical then what about the Balde/lovenkrands incident? the Balde/Mols incident? or the Balde/De Boer incident? all in the same game and if we had done the same in the street we'd be in pokey. Dodgy/debatle decisions happen.
51

InTheBackPocket,

09/05/2008 16:06:41
Backofthenet

lol

' Mr McCurry had set a high standard for what was to be judged a deliberate handball....'

OK m8, don't expect you to agree, that wee statement says enough:)
52

Backofthenet,

09/05/2008 16:10:29
Does it #53? Good.
53

Boyne Bhoy,

09/05/2008 16:11:33
44: I didn't see the incident the article relates to but can you clarify why if McCoist wasn't on the field of play as you claim was it not a throw in?
54

Braesbear,

09/05/2008 16:16:18
50 Pubic Systitis

Are you NN/IF in disguise?
55

Backofthenet,

09/05/2008 16:17:17
#55,

You don't have to be right on the field of play yourself to stop the whole of the ball from crossing the line (allegedly - the linesman flagged for a throw). In other words McCoists' foot made contact with the ball outside the field of play but the other side of the ball was (allegedly) in play.
56

invictager,

Kent 09/05/2008 16:21:39
#56

If he's not he is remarkably similar in his ability to talk sh1te.
57

Invisible,

09/05/2008 16:32:49
#56 As he's the only person in the known universe who refers to it as the basketball semi, I'd have to say that yes, he is.
58

Boyne Bhoy,

09/05/2008 16:45:13
Fair enough, Sally wasn't on the field of play but interfered with the ball leaving so still contravened the laws of the game in addition to leaving the technical areaa so only flouted two rules of the game?
59

Backofthenet,

09/05/2008 17:05:47
Did he break two laws or rules of the game? Not sure. But I would say he didn't "flout" anything. He got a bit carried away and put Rangers in a worse situation (turned a Gers throw into a stoat-up).
60

Tuatha De Dannan,

09/05/2008 17:33:01
The result of the Mc Coist incident is to all intents and purposes irrelevant, other than the fact that it might stop a few fans of the Gers persuasion moaning about a certain free kick given to Celtic from which we scored. Does that make us even on that front.

The real issue with the Mc Coist situation is why was no action taken against him by the officials. Where was the 4th official when Mc Coist was runing up and down that bit of the touchline outside of his technical area?
61

Braesbear,

09/05/2008 17:45:39
58 Invictager

There's a few of them talking sh1te. Thats why the main topics are not up for discussion and I suppose that was part of their spoiling agenda. It will only get worse as they work themselves into a frenzy - the glazing industry will have a field day so lock up your doctors
62

Invisible,

09/05/2008 18:03:17
#62 TDD
The McCoist "incident" is completely different! You got a free kick you never should have got, which is an advantage. Rangers got a drop-ball instead of what would have been their own throw, so therefore a DISadvantage.
63

Publilius Syrus,

09/05/2008 19:01:47
JesterCoist interfered with play in full view of ALL officials and caught on LIVE telly.

The only question that must be answered is why did none of the officials see fit to punish Jester?

Surely Jester has taken his tomfoolery too far and his given Rangers fans serious doubt about his character that might allow him to be next Rangers manager.

But the main question is still there.
It wont go away.
Just why was NO action taken against him,none ,zero,zilch and nuthin....absolutely hee-haw.

Meanwhile, the referee,his nearside assistant and the fourth official should be taken out,put up against the nearest wall and shot.

That would not punish JesterCoist,certainly not,but it would at least ensure that those three did not take part in any further collusion with Rangers players and or officials.
64

Publilius Syrus,

09/05/2008 19:17:52
Given that JesterCoist interfered with play and no action was taken against him by the officials in charge(surprise,surprise) would it benefit the Scottish game should a copy of McCoists actions be sent to UEFA.

Given that the Scottish authorities are running scared from their resposibilities,maybe UEFA should at least know and be made aware of the blatant breeches of the rules that are still going on in favour of Rangers and their football club.

Its a disgrace to the Scottish game.
Isn`t it.
65

Tim_MallÔy,

09/05/2008 19:39:38
No punishment for fat ally...hardly surprising. We all know why he gets let off yet Gordon Strachan gets bans for listening to a steward at pittodrie.

We all know why RFC get preferential. Nothing new just sad.

Will Rangers the rowing club with very confused followers ever win anything fair n square, or will they be happy to cheat for their entire history?
66

Teary Ennui,

09/05/2008 23:26:24
Celtic fans seem to fly into a rage at the smallest thing these days. What's eating at them? :0)
67

Colin P,

09/05/2008 23:45:16
Pub S
Get a life....what's your view on Maradona's "Hand of God" goal?

I suppose you'll say it was okay because of who it was against, or because of who it WASN'T against?

Malloy...grow up.
68

Colin P,

09/05/2008 23:50:27
James, what's your problem?

The ref was at fault. McCoist did something stupid.

Don't tell me you've never made a mistake in your life.

Tell me, is this righteous indignation from you, or just the normal indignation?
69

Colin P,

09/05/2008 23:54:40
Pubes, aka NN, The Fixated eejit, adsum, etc etc...how about ad nauseum?

Are you serious????
"Meanwhile, the referee,his nearside assistant and the fourth official should be taken out,put up against the nearest wall and shot."

Yet another reason to never take anything this clown says seriously...

LMAO!!!
70

Colin P,

09/05/2008 23:56:00
Celtic must have a tough game coming up this weekend, judging by the whinging on here.

 

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