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Strachan tells Bain and Rangers to 'just get on with it'



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Published Date: 24 March 2008
GORDON Strachan has expressed his opposition to the prospect of Rangers being granted an extension to their season in order to cope with their fixtures backlog.
The Celtic manager saw his team move within three points of Rangers once more at the top of the SPL with the 3-0 defeat of Gretna at Almondvale to set up an intriguing meeting of the Old Firm at Ibrox next Saturday.

Strachan now knows Celtic can t
ake top spot, albeit having played a game more than Rangers, with a win as they approach the closing stages of a campaign which sees the defence of their title as their only route to silverware.

Rangers, having already won the CIS Insurance Cup, remain active on three fronts with their continuing participation in the Uefa Cup and Scottish Cup creating the fixture pile-up which has seen the issue of their SPL campaign being extended beyond the official final day of 18 May.

Peter Lawwell, the Celtic chief executive, claimed that would "threaten the integrity" of the championship, prompting a response from his Rangers counterpart Martin Bain, who suggested the remarks were made because the reigning champions are currently behind in the title race.

"It's probably more to do with the fact that there is a points difference at the moment," said Bain during a radio interview on Saturday. "Why would we want to play eight games in four days? Our preference is to extend the season if it comes to that.

"But it might not come to that and I have to say that both Lex Gold (SPL executive chairman) and Iain Blair (SPL secretary) have put a number of options to us which we are considering, but it might be taken out of our hands.

"I'm not prone to comment on other's comments but what I would say to you is that to ask this football club to play four games in eight days, when we could be possibly competing in European competition, is not something that I think the SPL would do to be quite frank."

Strachan last night refused to directly respond to Bain's comments, but said: "We would advocate just getting on with it. I remember Aberdeen playing a lot of games in 1982-83, but the season wasn't extended. We just got on with it and it turned out to be a pretty good season for Aberdeen."

The Celtic manager was more satisfied with his team's result than their overall performance yesterday and recognises that they will require improvement for the Old Firm game.

"That display was not great," said Strachan. "That result was very good, but our performance against Aberdeen on Tuesday was better than this one. We are happy with the three points, but the performance can get better and we will try to do that."

Scott McDonald, whose 26th goal of the season gave Celtic the lead yesterday, was later replaced by Georgios Samaras and has pulled out of the Australia squad for their World Cup qualifier in China on Wednesday.

"Scott hasn't been as free in his movement as we would like him to be," said Strachan. "He had a bit of a calf strain today and he has phoned the Australian FA to tell them. It wouldn't do him much good to sit on a plane for that long."

Scott Brown picked up his 13th booking of the season to incur a three-match suspension which will see him miss at least one of the remaining Old Firm games, at Parkhead on 16 April. "He has to deal with his own indiscretions," said Strachan. "We will miss him and he will miss the games even more. If it is an unnecessary challenge, then he has to make sure he cuts it out of his game."

Gretna caretaker manager Mick Wadsworth was gratified by the performance of his makeshift side, but unhappy that a pay-at-the-gate facility was not available at the match which attracted just 3,561 spectators.

"Where is the common sense in that decision?" he asked. "If people were able to pay at the gate, what did they expect to happen, that the Khmer Rouge would come through with kalashnikovs? Every single £10 is important to us at the moment and it was a crazy situation.

"I thought our players were superb in terms of attitude. If Nicky Deverdics hadn't fluffed his lines with his chance at 1-0 down, it might have been a different outcome. But I honestly thought the club was going to the wall on Friday, so good on the SPL and the administrator for getting us to this stage."

Wadsworth revealed that French pair Aurelien Collin and Mickael Buscher have exercised their right to leave the club, while Uruguayan midfielder Fabian Yantorno has been released as Gretna cannot afford to pay for medical treatment on his injured knee. Physiotherapist Kenny Crichton has also departed to take up a post at Falkirk.






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  • Last Updated: 23 March 2008 11:56 PM
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  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Rangers FC , Celtic FC
 
1

Wee Pal Joe,

24/03/2008 00:46:09
So Strachan thinks Rangers "should just get on with it". What a shock. Somehow I doubt he'd be saying that if the positions were reversed.

As for Lawwell's weasel words about "the integrity of the competition", don't make me laugh. Is it "integrity" to try to win the league by making your rivals cram a load of games into a short space of time? Would a competition decided in that way really have integrity?
2

JungleJim,

Duntocher 24/03/2008 01:01:35
I remember Celtic requesting an extension in similar circumstances. Guess the outcome, get on with it. The excuses have started. The date of the final game was known at the start of the season. Is this another rule that Rangers are trying to bend.
3

Wee Pal Joe,

24/03/2008 01:04:03
"I remember Celtic requesting an extension in similar circumstances" (#2)

I don't remember that. When was it?

Should the season finish on the same date no matter how many games are postponed?

What happens if a game is called of on the scheduled last day of the season? Should it never be played?
4

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24/03/2008 01:06:37
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5

trueblue,

24/03/2008 01:11:45
jungle jim you on drugs ive watch scottish football for nearly 50yrs ive never seen or heard of any team wanting an extension to the league if celtic were in the same position of rangers they would be shouting for an extension strachans just trying to save his job cause he knows if celtic dont win the league youll be all baying for his blood now be a good boy dont mess with the big boys
6

trueblue,

24/03/2008 01:18:36
ill correct that aberdeen asked for one but that was in the dark ages
7

The Borgia,s PR. Company,

Govan 24/03/2008 01:22:13
Why don,t we play the outstanding game they bottled it to play us on 2nd January after the league finishing date that would demonstrate a measure of integrity and fairness.
8

prestonbhoy,

24/03/2008 01:24:26
Rangers are partly responsible for this fixture backlog with their decision to withdraw from the Gretna game and their pitch failing to handle a little bit of rain....now its time to reap what you sow...

..am confident the League will end on the planned date anyway, there is no way Rangers can continue to ride their luck in European competitions and will most likely be found out by Sporting in the next round
9

wes mantooth,

24/03/2008 01:26:57
obviously everyone who supports celtic is going to say no to the season being extended as everyone who supports rangers is going to say yes to an extension. it'd be the exact same if the roles were reversed.

though the games postponed due to unplayable pitches and as a result of the death of phil o'donnell can't be helped, rangers played their part in adding to the backlog by postponing the game with gretna. extra time to prepare for european fixtures is no reason to call a game off.

10

walshy,

24/03/2008 01:27:38


Celtic coming back Late from the semi final of Uefa Cup asked for the OF game to be moved , but BAIN said Celtic like everyone else knew the date of the fixture from the start of the season, so it was a big NO! to moving the game.

Hearts to there cost know all about doing Rangers a favour, asked to move there game at Tynecastle to another date to help rangers in Europe agreed to Rangers request for help.

Following season Hearts in Europe asked Rangers to repay the help they had given them , Rangers and Bains answer to hearts ... GO $%^& Yourselves !

11

Jimbhoy1967,

Glasgow 24/03/2008 01:27:47
All this doing is rangers fault for requesting a league game against the MIGHTY Gretna be postponed so they could try and inveriably and perpetually fail in competing against the big boys in the Champions League. The Gretna request and acceptance of the postponement by the SPL has resulted in a snowball effect of thier own doing. Now to request an extension to the league, totally unprecedented is not on. If you remember back to season that Celtic got to the EUFA Cup final. They had to play lots of games on the Saturday after Thurday night games, less than 48 hours between games.(BTW, these games are now always played on a Sunday, too late for Celtic then.)
If you remember Celtic had to play Rangers after the Boavista semi-final on the Saturday at lunch time, asked the league for a postponement, the league then said it was up to Rangers, request denied.
If rangers get the league extended it will be nothing short of cheating, you cant make up new laws as you go along.
Be the big club that you claim to be rangers and just get on with it like every other successful club does that is still involved in many competitions near the end of the season. Afterall that is what having a big squad with many quality players is all about, or is that what rangers are really worried about, because when you scratch under the starting eleven they are a really poor lot.
12

JungleJim,

24/03/2008 01:28:31
Celtic requested an extension in 1971. I also remember Celtic playing 3 games in 4 days later in the 70's. This was after a European Cup semi final in Madrid, something the gers can only dream of.

So, get on with it, finish the league when we said it would finish.
13

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

24/03/2008 01:38:25
Can we trust a word that comes out of Martin Bain's mouth after his staement on 30th November assuring Rangers fans that Cousin's extension clause could only be exercised during the summer window ?

The scottish press hasn't taken Bain to task about that...it's simply been left to die on the vine.

Rangers have got themselves into a muddle, partly over their postponement of the Gretna game, and their inability to beat Partick Thistle at home in the SC.

Therein lie the bilk of Rangers' problems.

Rangers were unsympathetic to Celtic's fixture congestion problems in 2003 - " I wish I had Martin's problems" (Eck McLeish) - and now that they find themselves in a difficult situation they start whimpering.

Ra poor wee Rangers....goat tae play huners 'n' huners o' gems.

If Rangers are indulged by the spl , then as far as I am concerned that will amount to an unfair advantage.
Getting the Gretna game put off was a daft idea, and failing to beat Partick at home was a poor result...Ally McOIst made it pretty clear that the players got pelters for their performance.

The rules are their for everyone, not everyone except Rangers. They wasted FIFA's time for weeks over Cousin, dressing themselves up as a special case and even misleading FIFA about the extent to which Cousin had played for Lens.

Stop making a big jessie of yirsel' Bain...stick to worrying about the fake tan...and stop telling porkies.
14

Richardinho,

24/03/2008 01:39:36
Disappointing comments from martin bain. Someone in his position really shouldn't be making derogatory remarks about the opposition.
As Strachan says, they should just get on with it.
15

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

24/03/2008 01:51:30
How about Strachan tells Bain to shut his baldy napper and stop sookin' up the asses of the spl big wigs.

Tell him to get on the 'phone to the SFA Chief Exec. and point out that he's found yet another agenda against Rangers, only this time it's not a popish plot from Europe, it's wur ane scoattish fitba' authorities who dare to apply the rules.
16

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24/03/2008 01:53:59
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17

Richardinho,

24/03/2008 01:59:01
If Rangers are really so worried about fixtures, they could always just drop out of one of the tournaments.
18

celticdaft,

24/03/2008 02:22:46
#1,3,4, 5

Don't know how you have the ba*** to come on here trying to defend that. When celtic exhausted themselves in 2003 playing almost 60 games and winning nothing there were few complaints. If you're crap heroes are worth what you think they are then you would be saying bring it on. All WGS said was get on with it. Which you should do. Remember Gretna.... serves you right
19

celticdaft,

24/03/2008 02:24:57
*** your crap heroes*** got ot fxi taht speel chekre
20

Patrick 162,

24/03/2008 02:27:38
Rangers have had five games postponed. Only one was due to Rangers and it's been played.

No SPL matches were cancelled by the weather at Ibrox.

The remaining matches were postponed due to bad weather(2), the O'Donnell tragedy and the Scotland match.

Why not delay any Scottish Cup semi to the midweek after the SPL is supposed to end and before the final, using the free date for an SPL fixture?

Also, forcing a team contesting an important position to play 4 games in 8 days breaches competition integrity far more than playing the final games a few days later.

What if Motherwell due to their pitch and Rangers agree to play their game later? Should anyone else have a right to stop it? Can you complain that your rival is losing an unfair disadvantage?

I think Celtic's position is an example of unsportsmanship.

Either way, I don't think the last few games will matter.
21

Patrick 162,

24/03/2008 02:29:08
#18

I remember many people complaining. Mainly Celtic fans.

Were they forced to play 4 games in 8 days then?
22

Patrick 162,

24/03/2008 02:30:16
#17 To do so intentionally would breach the Corinthian ideals of the sport.

It's not something a club like Rangers should do.
23

Richardinho,

24/03/2008 02:34:41
I don't think they should either. I think they should just get on with it and stop moaning.
24

bring them on,

24/03/2008 02:34:43
Every post by the same person.
25

Patrick 162,

24/03/2008 02:35:39
#15 Which particular rule?

Why did you bring religion into it?
26

Patrick 162,

24/03/2008 02:37:04
#13 Didn't FIFA agree with Bain?
27

Patrick 162,

24/03/2008 02:40:59
#11 What new law would this be?
28

rogansleftpeg,

London 24/03/2008 03:18:13
Hey Patrick 162
29

rogansleftpeg,

London 24/03/2008 03:18:24
Shut
30

rogansleftpeg,

London 24/03/2008 03:18:30
The
31

rogansleftpeg,

London 24/03/2008 03:18:36
Phuq
32

rogansleftpeg,

London 24/03/2008 03:18:42
Up
33

rogansleftpeg,

London 24/03/2008 03:27:51
Rangers want a helping hand from the Scottish league????
That's never happened before!!
34

Dubai in Lagos,

24/03/2008 04:19:09
Another list dominated by moaning, insulting Celtic supporters. Strachan' s false indignation wouldn't seem so bad if it wasn't for CFC's shameful manipulation of the New Year game situation and you all know it. Sent anything to the family yet or are you planning a little money earner for Celtic maybe in the summer?
35

Fayneant,

NZ 24/03/2008 04:30:11
Ach bring it on - the Rangers boys are hardy souls, living the dream....those poor overpaid Celtic players can sit at home while the SC and the UEFA Cup games are on and wish it was them.

The squad is big enough - the players are up for it - let's just get on with it
36

rogansleftpeg,

London 24/03/2008 04:34:54
35 man: at last someone with some balls, this pathetic attempt at extending the season is just a preemptive excuse for imminent failure..Good on ye mate.

as for no 34guy: Pathetic. Low. Typical. Boring.
37

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 24/03/2008 07:41:15
hmmm
wonder why he didn't say that in first week of january?
don't want to be too cynical
but
many other legends have passed on without cancellation of games
just a thought
38

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 24/03/2008 07:52:49
# 38 carlsberg v septic
"rangers request for gretna game to be postponed will come back to haunt you"
maybe but
will dofo give you the tom t#ts if we win SPL and UEFA!!

39

Hugh Hefner .,

24/03/2008 08:50:22
Just get on with it Rangers. You never granted Celtic a break in 2003 nor Hearts a few years ago. So why are you now whingeing and crying like bunch of putita's.

Show some integrity for once in your existence?
40

forbesy1873,

24/03/2008 09:00:29
I for one hope we just get on with it as I don't want to give the bleating Celts anything more to greet about when we win the treble/quadruple.
41

Teary Ennui,

24/03/2008 09:10:51
"If you remember Celtic had to play Rangers after the Boavista semi-final on the Saturday at lunch time" (#11)

No, that game was played on the Sunday.

Celtic are keeching it and will try just about any trick from laughable talk of "integrity" to dragging up (alleged) events from 1971 to the kind of falsehood we see above.

The chances are it won't come to an extension but the panicking Lawwell has gone running to the media anyway with what we might politely call his "spin".
42

Hugh Hefner .,

24/03/2008 09:20:13
42 - Nobody remembers if the game was played on a Saturday or a Sunday. Everyone just remembers the stance Rangers took and of course the result.

However, these things should be argued about if and when they happen. We haven't got there yet. So no need really!
43

Royalty,

24/03/2008 09:20:42
Strachan & Lawwell are fast losing their credibility within Scottish football.

Of course they would seek an extension to the season if their team was in Rangers position.

Trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator ie Celtic fans, they forget about the big picture.

Rangers are representing Scotland (I know Celtic stuggle with this concept as they consider themselves Irish) and any steps the SPL/SFA can take to help our top club the better.

Strachan should concentrate on his own affairs.

A 3-0 humping at Ibrox awaits him next Saturday.

Does Walter Smith win WGS after he's won 4 in a row against wee red?

44

geo67,

24/03/2008 09:35:45
#41
In total agreement.
Will make it all the sweeter.
Bring it on...
45

Barney Rubble,

24/03/2008 09:38:25
Liewell suggests that the "integrity" of the league would be tarnished by an extended season.....yet only tyhe other week he wanted the Gretna v Celtc match moved to Celtc Park. An away tie at home, if you will. I assume that he didn't think that would have impacted on the "integrity" of the league. Or is it because an extension to the season is not going to benefit Celtic?
46

Teary Ennui,

24/03/2008 09:40:35
"Nobody remembers if the game was played on a Saturday or a Sunday" (#43)

I do. It's not that difficult. Celtic played on the Thursday and the Sunday, as various other clubs have. The whingeing and untruth about the situation are pathetic.

However we agree that this would have been better left until the situation actually arose. If and when it does arise, matters should be looked at on the basis of the circumstances prevailing at the time.

Extending the season would not be some kind of monstrous scandal. Suppose (to take an example that would be neutral to most readers) Kilmarnock had been really unlucky with the weather and wanted an extra week to play off their games. How many folk would be bleating about "the integrity of the league"?
47

adam murray,

Vanguardbears@Windmillhill 24/03/2008 09:40:56
Mentioning the Gretna game is a red herring That game has been played and does not form part of the backlog That has been caused by Liewell getting the 2 nd of Jan game called off and poor pitches at St Mirren and Motherwell which caused rain postponements
48

Barney Rubble,

24/03/2008 09:45:46
Several posters have mentioned the Gretna game as being the reason. Whilst it has added to the inconveniance, tghis game was played in January, Rangers 3 outstanding games are against St Mirren, Celtic and Motherwell. None of which were cancelled at the request of Rangers. The SFA requested the St Mirren game be off prior to the Italy game (and the weather caused the subsequant game to be cancelled), Celtc requested the ne'erday game postponement and our own success in getting to the CIS Cup final led to the Motherwell game being re-arranged. Also, the fact there are no free weeks to play these games is due to Rangers success in Europe, which will has a positive effect on the whole of Scottish football (higher co-efficient = more teams = higher seedings = more likelihood of success etc).

49

forbesy1873,

24/03/2008 09:51:33
Barney please don't speak common sense you will only confuse the dear little Celtic fans and interfere with their notion that "itz aw a conshpiracy soz it iz"
50

Shaken,

24/03/2008 09:52:31
#36

You know what as a Rangers fan I hope we don't get the extension. Every pseudo Celtic fan up and down the country would shout conspiracy! SPL officials would have the windows bricked and families harassed. And I can guarentee we would stil be hearing about it 10 years hence when our 10th straight SPL title has been won and the 'mighty' tic are stil banging on about the injustices of the world
51

gerry mac,

24/03/2008 10:05:20
why dont the sfa extend the season til sept,play the last 2 old firm games in october,make the scottish cup optional and do away completely with the cis cup?
oh and let players have as many transfers during the season as they want.



RULES,DAMED RULES.GOD BLESS.
52

Jimbhoy1967,

Glasgow 24/03/2008 10:09:48
All this talk about Celtic asking for an extension if they were in the same position.
We were actually in a better position, the final of a European competition, something that is not going to happen to you lot, your luck will run out,(the referees in Europe are not Scottish and protestant).
We did not ask for an extension then.
53

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24/03/2008 10:10:54
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Barney Rubble,

24/03/2008 10:19:22
53..The extension is not solely because Rangers are still in Europe so is completely different to Celtc in 2003.

It is due to the circumstances, outwith the clubs control (weather, the sad passing of Phil O'Donnell and the CIS Cup Final) resulting in a backlog of fixtures. Our continuing run in Europe has reduced the number of free weeks to play these outstanding games.
55

Iwama,

24/03/2008 10:31:45
As a Rangers man I couldnt care less about whither the season is extended or not. If it isnt, fair enough, if it is fair enough. Lets be clear however. This came out because Peter liewell chose to make public an alleged aproach made to the SPL/SFA or whoever to look at the outstanding fixtures. ONE of the considerations looked at was extending the season. HE chose to let the genie out the bottle. I'm just stunned that he hasnt invoked the old tried and tested mantra of if the season is extended its for "reasons other tha football" Maybe he's saving that for the Scotsman who chose to play for Ireland maybe not being considered for POTY? Who knows, but the net here is that it lets a fair old whack of poison pen contributors, a fair old run at venting their collective spleens. PErsonally I hope it doesnt matter and that the league is tied up 3/4 games before the end of the season anyway! Get the reserves out for the remaining SPL games.
56

one of the people .,

24/03/2008 10:56:15
Look this could disrupt the holiday plans that the 3000 faithful through and through have made (ha ha ha) so a bit of understanding please .

Timmy please obey the keep off the grass signs next week if any of you are there .
57

Richardinho,

24/03/2008 11:02:06
This is all getting a bit silly now.
as Strachan says, Rangers should 'just get on with it'.
58

invictager,

Kent 24/03/2008 11:05:18
Lets just get on with it.

I would rather Rangers lost the league through being forced to play extra games in a week than endure the years of masonic conspiracy crap that would follow an extension being granted.

There are plenty out there who already spend their time building up "secret dosiers" about masonic referees. Lets not provide any further ammunition but just decide that any future requests from ra tic to postpone games be denied.

And yes ( before it is pointed out to me) we are PARTLY responsible because of the Gretna shambles.
59

Jimbhoy1967,

Glasgow 24/03/2008 11:13:48
If the league is extended then it would only be fair if Celtic put in a request to league, afterall that would be 2 unprecedented requests made by and accepted in favour of rangers. The postponement of the Gretna game and the extension of the league.
How about Celtic requesting the third old firm game to be played only when Scott Brown has finished serving his suspension.
Silly I know, but that is the way this is getting.
60

GraemeH,

Edinburgh 24/03/2008 11:19:59
Rangers fixture backlog is largely their own fault. Cr@p pitch against Stirling (anyone notice the new pitch is looking dodgy now as well), pointless postponement against Gretna and a failure to beat Hibs and Partick Thistle leading to replays.

Time for perma-tan to shut up and let the Rangers players get on with it. If they win the league, they should enjoy it more as a result.

61

One True Voice ,

24/03/2008 11:23:22
Rangers - JFDI
62

One True Voice ,

24/03/2008 11:25:15
Stop yer moaning and whingeing Bain.

Grow up and just get on with it.

We're forever told about the great squad you've got.

Get on with it.

Some people have no class. No dignity.

JFDI Rangers.
63

Wee Pal Joe,

24/03/2008 11:26:23
#61,

The Gretna postponement was not unprecedented. It came from the precedent of postponing matches before the Scotland-Italy game. As for extending the league, no such request has been made as far as I know. Lawwell was the one who brought it up. Strachan has now had more to say about it.

A lot of games have been postponed for a variety of reasons. It's pointless trying to put your spin on particular ones.
64

Jimbhoy1967,

Glasgow 24/03/2008 11:44:00
#65

A postponement for a Scotland game and a club game is different.
The reasoning is the same, freshness of players.
The Gretna postponement was for soley rangers benefit.
The Scotland game was for everyones benefit that supports Scotland, like me and the vast majority of Celtic fans, before I get called Irish.
Not the same precedent.
65

forbesy1873,

24/03/2008 11:53:30
like I said at post 41 I don't want an extension as I could not put up with the greetin faced Celtic fans going on and on about everyone being pro Rangers but let's put to bed the idea that the backlog is down to Ranger's own fault, it's not, the Gretna game we had postponed has been played, the OF game that Celtic asked for a postponement hasn't.
66

Wee Pal Joe,

24/03/2008 11:56:32
#65,

The same principle applied. Rangers would have been far less likely to get the Gretna postponement if it hadn't been for the pre-international postponements. Indeed they would probably not have asked.
67

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

24/03/2008 11:57:36
I haven't seen the lawell interview, but as the interviewee, he doesn't have control over the questions put to him.

Someone obviously raised the question with him.

Then Bainochio breathlessly issued a statement deriding Celtic's objections.
Me thinks Rangers have been very quietly discussing this with the spl, word has got out, and now it's all out in the open...with Bain shamelessly suggesting that it might all be taken out of Rangers hands...not if Celtic have got something to say about it Bainochio : if you want an extension at least have the bawz to ask for it.
68

Wee Pal Joe,

24/03/2008 12:12:23
"Then Bainochio breathlessly issued a statement deriding Celtic's objections"? (#69)

You bhoys better watch you don't overheat that spin machine.

"Me thinks Rangers have been very quietly discussing this with the spl, word has got out, and now it's all out in the open"

Yep, another big conspiracy.
69

BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 12:17:57
I think that the principle here is a fairly straightforward one. If a club creates it's own backlog, through choice or negligence, then it just has to get on with it, and finish the season within the allocated time. After all, every game has a scheduled date, and if these are adhered to, then the season finishes on time.

However, when the success of a club leads to a fixture crisis because of external factors emanating from other sources that could have been avoided, ie, a fixture being cancelled to "help out" the National team, or a fixture being cancelled because a few of the opposition players "didn't feel up to it", or a fixture being cancelled as a knock-on effect of a stupid decision by the SPL to allow ground-sharing, or a club not being willing to play because a couple of their lads were off on "under-21" duty, or another club not being able to get their stand ready in time, etc, etc, then Scottish football owes it to the affected club(s) to extend the season if this is the most sensible conclusion.

My own suspicion, though, is that if Rangers play twice every week until the end of the season, they'll just about get there.

PS If the authorities were really willing to withdraw RFC players for this week's internationals in order to play the Partick replay, then why have the SPL not suggested that Rangers play one of their outstanding SPL fixtures, say St Mirren away, instead?

Common sense is in short supply.
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forbesy1873,

24/03/2008 12:23:27
The paranoid are out on overdrive today on all threads, call offs, extensions, etc.

Some might think things were getting to them.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

24/03/2008 12:33:45
Wouldn't it be in Rangers' interests to have a spokesperson who doesn't poke peoples' eyes out with his nose?

Bain has been spared a grilling by the press for his less than honest description of the Cousin exit clause, but that's to be expected : Hugh Keevans picks up a rumour in the daily record sports desk that Strachan is about to resign and then he and other sundry Minty Poodles run the story and bore everyone to death at press conference for two weeks about it, citing their journalistic integrity as their motivation for sticking the boot into Strachan.
Strachan's denials are reported tounge in cheek.

Bainochio comes out and drops an absolute whopper from his own lips, and he weasels back into the shadows without so much as a 'haud oan a minute'.

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Shaken,

24/03/2008 12:36:42
#73

Strachan is a clown and will be forced to resign before the seasons' end. Followng on from the mauling on Saturday you lot wil calling for his head faster than you can say 'where's the trophies'
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Wee Pal Joe,

24/03/2008 12:38:17
"Hugh Keevans picks up a rumour in the daily record sports desk that Strachan is about to resign" (73)

Yeah, Shug is a big Gers man. :0)
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forbesy1873,

24/03/2008 12:41:47
Hugh Keevans bedroom has Celtic wallpaper and he drinks his tea out of a Celtic mug (no I don't mean Boruc)
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

24/03/2008 12:51:55
You guys don't seem to know much about Mr Keevans' background.

When O'Neil left Celtic, Keevans was a prominent member of The Scotsmans football writing team.
It seems that already, he had by then upset a few people within Celtic.

Keevans was apparently fed a story that Strachan wasn't getting the Celtic job, and that someone else was getting it. The source led Keevans to believe that the story was solid, and The Scotsman ran a story that Strachan wasn't getting the job, that they had the exclusive...apparently Keevans was warned by the sports editor noy to run the story just yet, but to wait 24 hours or so before going into print.

Keevans is allleged to have staked his reputation on the story, and that persuaded them to run it...but Keevans had been fed a pile of kak, and resigned from the Scotsman the very next day...it is suggested that he believes he was set up by someone within Celtic to run that story and is quite bitter about it.

The Strachan resignation story was apparently a ruse to try and find out who had been leaking other stories to Keevans which he had been using to attack Celtic.
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forbesy1873,

24/03/2008 12:55:03
Sorry Pat, just take a wee trip in to the Queens Park Cafe in Victoria Road and ask anyone who Keevans supports.
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Wee Pal Joe,

24/03/2008 13:03:19
Keevins really did write that "four priests" thing to try to ingratiate himself with his fellow Celtic fans. Probably the single most pathetic thing I've seen a football hack write - and that's saying something.
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Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 24/03/2008 13:32:48
Not a bad proposal - let's extend the whole season by a week and play the final 3 games involving the top 6 a week later than originally scheduled - which they would have to to avoid giving one team an "advantage" (that's why they all play at the same time on the last day of the season).
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 13:52:55
as some rangers fans suggested at the postponement of some SPL games for europe............'you don't, ask you don't get'

you asked for it, you got it. stop complaining. use this 'great depth' of 'quality' squad you have.

wouldn't surprise me if they got to finish their season at a later date, but it shouldn't happen. mr bain should of known this was going to happen, maybe not to the extent it has. but how many games in scotland get put off due to the weather every season? alot. he ran the risk of this happening to rangers and should stop crying.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 14:22:00
"how many games in scotland get put off due to the weather every season? alot."

What has that got to do with it? RFC are behind in games because the SFA asked them to postpone a match, because Celtic didn't want to play a match, because Hibs didn't agree to an SFA date, and because Partick now can't meet an SFA date.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 14:25:42
But here's an offer, in the spirit of friendship...

If Celtic are ever successful enough on all four fronts in a single season that they have to play a minimum of 63 games, possibly rising to 68, then they can tell us that there's no need to fuss about it.
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 14:29:12
my point is that. games are called off due to the weather. is that statement incorrect? your saying no games ever have been called off due to the weather?

there are lots of reasons why RFC are backlogged in games, drawing cup matches, asking for postponements, the weather etc.

i didn't mean to offend you by also including the weather.
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jerrymanders,

Just get on with it. 24/03/2008 14:32:05
#82

Factually incorrect. Rangers agreed to the postponement. Or, is WS a liar?
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 14:32:12
we did. it was 1967. plus it will never rise to 68.
many teams all over the continent do it. chelsea were doing it but were knocked out in the semi of the FA cup. your in the same position. i live near london and hear no calls to extend there season.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 14:32:43
#84

Have RFC suffered more from weather call-offs than other SPL clubs this season?

You and I both know that the weather isn't the main reason why RFC are struggling to fit all their fixtures in.

Any forward looking and progressive small nation would bend over backwards to help if one of their clubs had a chance to make a real mark in Europe, and to win a trophy that no team from that country had ever won before.
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 14:33:03
#85
it is factually incorrect. WS is a liar anyways!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 14:35:16
jerry, I agree, RFC did agree to the postponement. Where did I say otherwise?

That doesn't change the fact however, that CFC made the original request, and I feel certain that Rangers would rather have played the game.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 14:38:29
#86.

Yep. You won the lot in 1967. Superb team, superb achievement.

That was 34 league games and 9 in Europe however. Not the 38 and 19 that Rangers will be required to play in order to do the same.
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 14:41:27
BE are you talking about the OF postponement in jan as mark of respect? because if you are that is a very sickening.
i wanted all SPL matches called off that weekend. it was above football as a man lost his life during a game.
rangers may of wanted to play the game as we were in bad form and you were flying high but from a humans point of view it was just wrong to play a game that has too much tension and emotion already in it.
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 14:43:14
#90
what do you feel about chelsea not complaining about the amount of games?
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 14:49:18
#91

Don't try to grab any moral high ground with me. I have no problem with RFC agreeing to postpone the match, but the point is that, given that RFC did the decent thing and agreed to CFC's original request, why is it so hard for CFC to now do the decent thing and agree to Rangers getting a slight extension to their season if necessary?

The Chelsea question is just nonsense. Firstly, Chelsea haven't played as many Euro games as Rangers this season. I think they've actually played 6 less. Secondly, their main title rivals down there are in the exact same boat, so it's the same for everyone.
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 15:05:02
so if celts were in the same boat as rangers the season would end on time?

the 'decent' thing to do is helping rangers out? you weren't helping us out by postponing. it was out of a mark of RESPECT!!!!!!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 15:11:43
Hammy.

You are hard work.

Celtic struggled to get their fixtures played in 2002/2003, yet they had to play less domestic cup games and European matches than Rangers, so it's obvious that Rangers may need a little extra time.

As for your point-scoring "RESPECT" remarks, there were games that went ahead that day, most notably the Dundee United game. I personally don't feel that an OF game going ahead, with a thunderous minute of applause for Phil O'Donnell, would have been in any way disrespectful, but neither do I have an issue with the game being postponed.

My point remains however, RFC agreed to a postponement that was requested by Celtic, and now Celtic can show their gratitude and sense of fair play by giving RFC an extra week IF it is required.
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tatty73,

24/03/2008 15:18:53
Well in 73-74 season Celtic had to play 4 games in 6 days and one of them was a European Cup semi-final, also had to play two games on consecutive days. They had asked the league to re-schedule some of the fixtures but were refused. I think the Morton game after the cup final was unavoidable, Hearts also played Dundee on the 6th May, again though only 2 days between them.

24/04/1974 European Cup Athletico Madrid
27/04/1974 League Division 1 Falkirk
29/04/1974 League Division 1 Aberdeen
30/04/1974 League Division 1 Morton
04/05/1974 Scottish Cup Dundee United
06/05/1974 League Division 1 Morton

So just get on with it rangers, stoap yer moanin.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 15:23:44
#96

Can't comment, because I don't have the facts to hand, however I would be genuinely surprised if they actually played on 2 successive days, unless, of course, the league was already won and the results didn't matter.

I'll bet they still didn't come close to 68 games, though.
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HammyOfHesselink,

24/03/2008 15:27:03
i'm not tryin to 'point-score'. i'm not having an argument on this issue.

but you asked for these games to be called off earlier in the season. stop crying and get on with it.

you said about us moaning that you got these games called off, now its time to face the concequences.
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tatty73,

24/03/2008 15:30:04
You can comment, as you do have the facts to hand, I just posted them, I'm not going to make up some random facts, just to back something up.

They played 61 games that season.

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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 15:35:27
#98

What "games" did RFC ask to be called off?

We asked for ONE, against Gretna, which has long since been played.

#99

As I asked, what was the situation when Celtic played 2 games in successive days? Had the league already been won, and a whole different set of players used for the second game?

I DON'T have those facts to hand.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 15:49:32
tatty73

Celtic won the league by 5 points that season, so the last 2 league games were probably meaningless.

The Dundee Utd game was the Scottish Cup final, which is traditionally the last game of the season, so CFC must have got an extension that season to play the last game against Morton.

You've pretty much made my point for me.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

24/03/2008 16:00:03
tatty73

Let's delve a little deeper.

61 games that season. I w