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Benched Boyd walks out on Burley's Scotland



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Published Date: 13 October 2008
A BAD result, an infamous miss, and Scotland's World Cup hopes are hanging in the balance. Time for the players to show some solidarity, you might think. Time for them to back the management, show some defiance and say they can still make it to South Africa.
Not Kris Boyd. Instead of any of that distasteful positive stuff, the Rangers striker apparently thought the aftermath of Saturday's 0-0 draw with Norway was the time to flounce off and announce he would never play for Scotland again as long as George Burley is manager.

The rumours began hours after the match, and yesterday afternoon Boyd confirmed them. "I left a message on George Burley's phone (on Saturday] night and he hadn't got back to me," he said. "I didn't think just leaving a message was very professional, so I spoke with (Scottish Football Association chief executive] Gordon Smith and informed him of my decision. I will not be playing for George Burley again, but I hope to be back in a Scotland jersey again one day."

Burley reacted last night by saying he would treat Boyd's decision with "respect". A mixture of bemusement and contempt would have been a more understandable reaction, but to express those emotions would have accorded the fringe player's decision a greater level of attention than it deserves.

Smith said he hoped Boyd would reconsider. "If Kris Boyd is saying it's because of George Burley then that's unfortunate," the SFA official said.

"He didn't play yesterday, he didn't come on as a substitute, so maybe he has got upset. If Kris spent a bit more time thinking about it, he might have changed his mind. Maybe it was a quick reaction to how he feels."

That reaction, like Burley's, was a sensible line to take. But the SFA should now let the matter lie, and not prolong a debate which is sure to see some of Boyd's supporters clamouring for him to be restored to the squad – and on his own terms.

Had Boyd walked out on a serious point of principle, his decision might have deserved some respect. Had he quit at the end of a long qualifying campaign, or as a veteran who had fought long and hard for his country, there would have been no hard feelings.

So long, Kris, and thanks for all the goals, and the happy memories, and those times you made yourself available for meaningless friendlies because your commitment to the cause was so uncompromising. That could have been the reaction.

Instead, Boyd is calling a halt to his international career aged only 25. He has played for Scotland 15 times, and scored seven goals. He may well hope that in a year or two Burley will be gone and a new manager will rush to recall him, but there is no guarantee of that – and certainly his actions of this weekend will surely make any successor think twice before bringing him back.

So, coming towards what should be the peak years of his career, he is jeopardising the chance to play perhaps dozens of games at the highest level, and the possibility of being in the first Scotland squad since 1998 to qualify for the final stages of one of international football's two principal tournaments. And why? Because, it seems, he is not rated highly enough by Burley, and he has been frustrated by his lack of playing opportunities.

The frustration is understandable: every professional wants to be picked for the big games, and since Burley took over Boyd has seen only 28 minutes of action. But quitting the international scene is, self-evidently, not the way to end that frustration.

Granted, Boyd is not the only Scotland player to have decided to hang up his international boots. Lee McCulloch did the same only last month, and, while family reasons were offered for his decision, an unhappiness with the Burley regime may have played a part.

James McFadden was also frustrated with Burley on Saturday but has since backed down
James McFadden was also frustrated with Burley on Saturday but has since backed down
Yet, while we cannot exempt the manager of any blame for the discord within his squad, it remains the case that the vast majority of his players recognise he has a bigger picture to deal with and cannot pander to their individual feelings. James McFadden, for instance, was unhappy about being substituted ten minutes or so into the second half of the Norway match, but accepted the reasoning behind it.

"I was very disappointed," McFadden said. "I wanted to play as much as I could; I wanted to play the whole game. But the manager changed it, and in the end, it almost worked."

Boyd's supporters might counter that it would have worked had their man, not Chris Iwelumo, been introduced to the action in the second half. But that is a moot point, and even if conceded would hardly constitute a vindication of his actions.

By yesterday afternoon, player and coach had been in direct contact, and according to Burley there had been no mention of any other issue bar lack of playing time. "I've spoken with Kris and he told me that he was disappointed not to play on Saturday or in the last couple of matches," he stated. "He said that he did not want to be considered for future Scotland squads so that he can concentrate on his club career."

That explanation was either disingenuous or diplomatic, for Boyd certainly does not want to play only club football. He wants to play at the highest level, and apparently believes he deserves to do so. Making himself unavailable, however, is a strange way of trying to prove his case.

The truism states that all good strikers have to be selfish. Boyd has perhaps not understood that it refers to behaviour on the field of play, not off it.

Fans criticise 'yesterday's man'

KRIS Boyd's decision to quit Scotland has been condemned by the Tartan Army, who last night accused the striker of a lack of loyalty.

"The players have put us through so much misery over the years, but following Scotland is a series of highs and lows," said Hamish Husband, spokesman for the West of Scotland Tartan Army. "The Tartan Army always follows the team, and the players should show the same loyalty.

"I appreciate that Kris Boyd should have come on against Norway and that he would have scored the winner. But he has to suffer with the rest of us.

"He is one of the best strikers we have. But if you don't want to play for Scotland just leave – don't say it's because of George Burley; don't pretend you want to play and that you will play again in the future. We will have to wait and see whether Burley is the right man for the job, but whether he is upsetting players or not is not my concern. What I want to see is players who want to play for Scotland. Boyd is yesterday's man. We move on."

James McFadden started against Norway as a lone striker before Burley took the decision to throw Steven Fletcher and debutant Chris Iwelumo into the action, leaving Boyd on the bench. What followed was an open-goal miss from Iwelumo, as the hosts were forced to settle for a 0-0 draw.

"All Scotland wants is players who want to play for the jersey," added Husband. "From what I've seen of Chris Iwelumo, he is not the best centre-forward in the world – and we all know Boyd would have scored if he had come on. But after Boyd's statement today, I would take Chris Iwelumo over Boyd any time. More than 50,000 people believed that Boyd would have scored the winner. But if he doesn't want to play for the jersey, then no one is interested in him any more."

Lisa Gray

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1

James F,

East Ayr 13/10/2008 00:14:35
The SFA should make it quite clear to Kris Boyd that his services will no longer be required under any manager. The man has a cheek.
2

BEMUSED EXILE,

13/10/2008 00:18:37
I'll get in now, because there isn't a snowball's chance in Hell of this thread lasting through the day ahead.

A poor and petulant decision by Kris, but that's all that there is to it. A few Celtic supporters on yesterday's thread which exposed this story have already tried to link it to a wider RFC conspiracy, but that's merely bitter OF mud-slinging in action; the very animal that tends to close threads like this.

Casting my mind back several years to the nineties, I remember a quite eloquent interview with David Robertson, who explained the frustration and sense of hopelessness he felt in travelling with the Scotland squad to far-flung, unglamorous corners of Europe, knowing in his heart that he had no chance whatsoever of seeing any playing time because Craig Brown had a blind spot for Tom Boyd in the left-back position, at a time when RFC were completely dominant in Scottish football and Robertson was a model of consistency as a tough tackling, attack minded defender par-excellence.

David spoke of the myriad plane and bus journeys, the time apart from his family, the effort of trying to give his all in training sessions while mentally resigned to the fact that his position in the team was already settled, and not in his favour.

I don't think that Kris should have thrown in the towel this easily, and it certainly reflects badly on him, but on one level I can sympathise and understand.
3

paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 00:29:18
His decision...timing and attitude stinks....

I guess he must have the same feelings towards Wattie....

He will get punted in January....
4

Lochinvar,

Edimbourg 13/10/2008 00:34:26
Manna from heaven for the west coast media mafia Kris? Interesting to see how those Daily Record journalists react after their "I quit 'cos of Burley" nonsense was shot down in flames and utterly exposed as he's-not-managed-the-old-firm (re McCulloch's retiral)... I heard the Burley interview on Radio Scotland this morning and was actually a bit (shocked isn't really the word) surprised at Burley's reference to Boyd needing to get into the Rangers team..Thought it was an unsophisticated answer to the question (Burley is too open and non media savvy) To my point.(AT LAST)...Kris Boyd I really rate you but you have spat the dummy big style KNOWING that you will be cosetted by the anti Burley elements... a man who quits at the first hurdle is someone we don't need. We missed a sitter yesterday, but I never thought it would have been overshadowed by such a glaring own goal...Mr Boyd you are a disgrace!
5

paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 00:34:46
It still stinks BTO....no matter how much you want to try and defend him....
6

jerrymanders,

13/10/2008 00:56:41
DESERTER
7

Helter Skelter,

13/10/2008 00:58:06
Mabey this was all displaced anger on the part of boyd...mabey the real reason for all this is the growing frustration that Champions Celtic are back on top of the league again after rearrangerz got pumped down at Love Street.

Boyd came on as a sub in that game and failed to score.
Shame.
8

jerrymanders,

13/10/2008 01:03:31
#11

A striker that is used to losing?
9

Harlem Tam,

13/10/2008 01:10:50
When it comes to Scotland, I don't care about club loyalties, so here is my tuppence worth.

I have to say I have every sympathy with Kris Boyd on this one. As a Scotland fan I was very angry at the tactics and then, when he had the chance to do something to change it, and get the goal we so desperately needed, he brings on two untried strikers.

Iwelumo's horrific miss just made me all the more angry, not so much at him, but at the manager for overlooking the one natural goalscorer. Boyd should have been introduced instead of either of the two who came on. If there is a problem with Boyd's attitude or discipline, and I have no reason to presume either, he should not have been in the squad. That he WAS in the squad means he should have been utilised when it was obvious we needed a genuine goal-getter up front.

Burley blew it and I am still seething at his intransigence. Bemused Exile makes a good case for Boyd's decision and I cannot disagree with that.

If I were Boyd I would have felt the very same. Burley will take us nowhere fast. Get rid of him now before it is too late.

Gutted.
10

Bring it Off,

UK 13/10/2008 01:27:54
Surely Gordon Brown can come in and save the team he is after all doing such a good job in all other aspects of our lives
11

the boxerman,

Toronto 13/10/2008 01:28:14
Close the door on the way out Krissie. Concentrate on Rangers getting the league back.
12

jerrymanders,

13/10/2008 01:33:28
#15

I always want Scotland to win. Boydchenko takes a hissy fit because he doesn't get on the park, and walks out on his Nation. And Scots on here defend that? He's not started that many games this season for his club either.

13

Richardinho,

13/10/2008 01:47:41
'David spoke of the myriad plane and bus journeys, the time apart from his family, the effort of trying to give his all in training sessions while mentally resigned to the fact that his position in the team was already settled, and not in his favour.'

A player who is 'mentally resigned to not playing' is a player who should not be playing.
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Richardinho,

13/10/2008 01:52:48
#22 Not at Love Street last week. He came on in almost exactly the same situation-and didn't score. Who's to say he would have got into that position in the first place? I think playing Iwelumo was a mistake-but the manager has to be able to make the decisions without the added pressure of his players having hissy fits about them.
16

ACE OF SPADES,

England 13/10/2008 01:57:02
After reading Roy Keanes book I can understand where Boyd's coming from regards playing for someone you have no respect for.
Burley will be gone sooner rather than later and Boyd will get his chance again.
#21 Never one to pass up the chance to have a dig at Rangers...pathetic.
#13 Tam respect is due for your post. There's nothing more infuriating than a manager doing things "his way" to prove a point.
I wonder if Mr Burley thinks he's proved his point today.
17

Richardinho,

13/10/2008 02:22:42
#25 rangers don't come into it, Robertson's attitude-if that's what it was- was a disgrace. I wonder how rangers fans would feel about him if he'd had a similar attitude at rangers. Somehow I don't think they'd be too forgiving either if Boyd trys the same stunt on with the buns as he's done with Scotland.
18

JFD HIBEE,

san francisco 13/10/2008 02:23:56
LETS HEAR A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR HAMISH HUSBAND.MABYE WE SHOULD DRAW UP A SHORT LEET LIST NEW MANAGERIAL PROSPECTS AND HAVE MR BOYD GIVE HIS APPROVAL. TO MR BOYD I SAY THE JERSEY IS BIGGER THAN YOU. GET LOST.
19

KingKenny,

13/10/2008 02:32:36
I hope Boyd early return International team. Walter Smith and Alex McLeish not regular use Boyd. I think He have big mistake.

Burley too. Chris Iwelumo is good guy and professional player, but Saturday game he need start or 70minute in is right, He play is fine but big mistake shoot, I think he felt nervous his first International game.


Scotland need Win every game, big difficult. I hope Boyd early retrun Interantional team. Burley think and try right Decision.

20

jamurai,

13/10/2008 02:35:21
Very disappointed in this decision. Yes I think he is right to feel extremely aggrieved with the situation,he should have been brought on, but if the man says he loves Scotland and playing for the national team then this no more than a case of throwing his toys out the pram. He can do nothing to help the country he "loves" now. I wonder when he's going to walk out on Rangers cos it seems he doesn't get much of a game there either...
21

Rancho Relaxo,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 02:40:24
There are 2 seperate issues here. Burley's tactics in the first half were awful and we created nothing. To hammer on all week about needing a win then playing one striker beggars belief. If he was going to play one up front, then surely that was the time to play Iwelumo in a similar style to Carew. Apart from his miss, the big man actually played ok and had the Norwegian defence thinking a bit more. He should take the flak for Burley's over cautious approach.

The other issue is Boyd. I don't necessarily have a problem with his decision but his timing could be better. It reeks of nothing more than a petulant dummy spit. All that nonsense about David Robertson listed above would have more relevance if this game hadn't been played in Glasgow. Is it really such a big deal to ask Boyd to sit on the bench at Hampden? He gets enough practice at his club. He needs to win regular starting football, then apologise to all involved, before playing for Scotland again. Until then, both parties are the losers.
22

Rancho Relaxo,

13/10/2008 02:46:49
I meant to say that Iwelumo Shouldn't take the blame.
23

Real Men Against Bhoys,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 02:50:02
So, coming towards what should be the peak years of his career, he is jeopardising the chance to play perhaps dozens of games at the highest level...But not if the "manager" doesn't rate him and won't play him! Obviously you should sign for Hertz if you want to play for Scotland, Kris.
24

Real Men Against Bhoys,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 02:53:30
"All Scotland wants is players who want to play for the jersey,"
NO! NO! NO!
All this Scot wants is a team that can qualify for major tournaments and go on to do the nation proud.
25

Richardinho,

13/10/2008 02:57:57
Burley-doing his best in hard times

Boyd-disgrace.
26

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 13/10/2008 03:20:49
BTO

It doesnt matter whether Burley is the worst manager in the world. You cant have players refusing to play for a manager because he doesnt rate him. What would have happened if Wattie or Big Eck had still been manager because neither of these two rated him hihly enough to start either. Would he have refused to play for them also.

Do we keep sacking managers until we find one that rates Kris Boyd. In that case I think we would need to give the job to Kris Boyds Mum.

The SFA must be clear on this that Kris Boyd will never play for Scotland again regardless of who is manager. Anything less and Burley's position is terminally undermined.
27

Richardinho,

13/10/2008 03:23:43
Don't believe in panickingjust because things get a bit difficult. In the cold light of day, a draw wasn't such a bad result-particularly given the chances they had. What we don't need is players going off on a huff. Boyd will now have to hope that Scotland don't qualify for the world cup cause if they do he will probably never play for Scotland again.
I'd have thought that after Iwelumo's miss, Boyd was odds on to getting back in the side anyway. What a dope.
28

Big Stevie,

Sydneyside 13/10/2008 03:42:19
BTO

I cant agree or disagree with Burley's performance as Scotland manager as he's not had enough games and he's been unfortunate with injuries.

If he isnt good enough then he will be sacked but it shouldnt be because he didnt pick Kris Boyd. And if the next manager has any sense he will leave Boyd well alone.
29

Jaggy,

13/10/2008 04:03:00
I don't blame Boyd although I suspect there is more to this than we have been told. Fact is, Boyd's style only works in a certain kind of setup. He is a penalty box striker and needs a "system" designed to create chances in the box. Playing with a single striker will never work for him. So it was at Rangers and so it is at Scotland. As Scotland lack the quality to do much more than this then it is unlikely that Burley will ever play him.

That said, Burley is disingenious in his comments about Boyd playing for Rangers. Boyd has been getting starts and getting goals but Smith varies his formation according to who he is playing. In a better team with more quality in the attacking midfield role and more quality on the flanks, Boyd would get a lot more goals because that is what he does and he does it well.
30

Curry Monster,

Ger Fan upset with Boyd 13/10/2008 04:17:03
My tuppence worth:

I thought Scotland were good on saturday, they were creative, always willing to attack, passed the ball around well, overall very good! We dominated, but we don't have great strikers, that's not Burley's fault. But I did see a new dawn. I was attracted to the style we played and was impressed. What's the The manager got the tactics correct. His selection was spot on, and within that Maloney was the star. We were just unlucky. Anyway, despite our climb up the rankings, I haven't seen Scotland play that well for a long time.
So what about Boyd? Well, what about him? He hasn't got a leg to stand on. He should feel privelaged to be playing for Rangers and Scotland, and should be willing to fight for his place in both teams. What young lad with half a brain would chuck that away? he just doesn't get it. A spoilt wee boy.
I hoep he rethinks his decision fast becuase if he doesn't he's throwing away what is potentially a great career. Wish I was in his shoes when I was 25.
I think we should get rid of him at Rangers. I don't want players without that fighting spirit in my team.
Burley, he is the man, I have no doubt he'll get the results and send us to South africa. He just needs the backing from the fans and the media at this time.Not doubters and deserters.
C'mon Scotland!!!!!!!!




31

lonegersfan,

Hamilton NZ 13/10/2008 04:26:56
If gers kept players like buffle, boyd would be getting all the support hed need to score the goals
32

viking nz,

new zealand 13/10/2008 05:05:23
Seems that smithy is doing the same to him at rangers , when its so obvious he can put the ball in the net , may be he has jumped the gun to quickly or is there more to this than meets the eye .
33

Footbal fan,

Dubai 13/10/2008 05:14:40
Seems to me that had Iwelumo scord with the chance he had, there would be no talk of Boyd quitting? From what I saw, Scotland's best period in the match coincided with the double substitution. Iwelumo and Fletcher made a significant impact and caused far greater concern to the Norwegian defence than had been there before. Tactically, then, I think Burley was spot-on and we would have been talking about the game in a completely different light had we won.

I think Boyd's comments after the event reflect very poorly on him as a footballer and as a man - he is gutless, will not fight for a place and sees himself above the others. Worse still, he is happy to kick a man while he is down!

Well, good luck to him. I think however, that this decision will have severe ramifications for his career at Ibrox - Walter Smith is not known for his patience with lazy players and I would be very surprised if he is still at Rangers come the end of the season .
34

WBB,

Perth, WA 13/10/2008 05:17:30
I have an old fashion view on team selection. If a player is not regularly in a starting eleven line up for a first team then no way should he be selected for international duty.

Simple and end of. Boyd ain't and so in my view should not be in the Scottish squad. That goes for any player from any team.

In this case Boyd has spat the dummy so let him walk and let's move on.
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james 1st,

hamilton nz 13/10/2008 05:51:20
george {breti voigts } burley made an horrific decision to play twin strikers with one international cap and no internetional goals between them. boyd may well be a lazy player but at least he does score goals.
in any other country a manager making such a disasterous decision would not last long. if burley stays scotland risks once again becoming a laughing stock ranked somewhere in the 100s in world soccer.
soon andorra could beat them
36

Regulator,

Edinburgh 13/10/2008 06:11:47
Can't argue with Boyds decision, although it does appear a bit petulant. We have to blood new caps, however in a game we have to win, I don't see this as being the right time to do it. Not many people who take an interest in football in Scotland will disagree that if you want a goal, Boyd is the man that will get it for you. If Burley wants to blood people during a game like this, I don't think I would want to be involved with him. The current squad are not performing for Burley the way they performed for Smith and McLeish, so perhaps it's not just Boyd who should not play again for Scotland whilst Burley is in charge. I didn't see the qualifiers, however the highlight so far is a 2-1 victory over Iceland with, according to the Scottish media, only Scott Brown performing. It looks like Burley is not the man for the job, however whether Boyd should get back in when a new man is appointed is another matter.
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WEE IBROX can u hear the celic sing NO NO,

Melbourne 13/10/2008 06:17:02
Boyd is a disgrace if he thinks he can decide which
Scotland manager he will play for no differet really to the celic player born in Scotland who now plays
for Ireland good ridence to both of them.
38

Bosco Bhoy,

13/10/2008 06:44:58
What is pathetic is the odd Celtic fan slagging RFC in relation to the Boyd fiasco. What is equally pathetic is the odd Rangers fan trying to defend or explain Boyd actions just because he plays for their club.

But by far the most pathetic,immature petulant BS comes from Boyd who announces he wont play for Scotland again until the manager changes.
If it was a kid in the local under 12 team we would tell them to kop themselves on and get the head down and show the manager his worth.

Why any difference for Boyd?
39

Bosco Bhoy,

13/10/2008 06:47:34
Sadly i fear this debate will just become a CFC/RFC shouting match over the hours but there is a bigger point here and its about modern day football players fullfilling their potential and accepting they are not in charge and they are part of a team.
40

InTheBackPocket,

13/10/2008 07:26:12
Boyd is an absolute disgrace of a professional footballer and even less of a man.
We shouldn't be surprised; just like his club RFC, no class and certainly no dignity. I see BF has been sticking the boot in again, ne can eff off too.
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pelestan,

Alberta,Canada 13/10/2008 07:29:37
The spokesman for the Tartan Army says he is one of the best strikers we have,and yet the manager shows him nothing but disrespect playing him 28 minutes in total,,why bother bringing him onto the team when you have already made your mind up that he will not be playing,,,something very wrong with Burley,,I truly think that he has taken this from the Rangers management doing the same,with Boyd,I support him 100 PERCENT....
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alwaysalba,

13/10/2008 07:33:37
wrong decision Boydy, bad timing, took the point away from Burleys decision to use two uncapped players, why not put Boyd on with one of them, he is a six yard box player, did Burley do it to show he is strong, sadly his ego came back to haunt him and may have given us the opportunity to sit at home and watch another tournament on television. I think Iwelumo had not a bad game winning in the air a great deal and hopefully will prove to be better than his miss on Saturday.
43

Paranoid John from Midlothian,

13/10/2008 07:47:49
Hey Boydy...we'll miss your workrate. Also, let me know what Sir David says when you tell him that you are refusing to play for Rangers under Smith...or is that different? If so, what is the difference?
44

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 13/10/2008 07:51:33
A decision made from the cot an maybe to hasty. I think Boyd should have come on. However if he did come on the run off the ball may have been different, players have different options so no guarantee the same chance would have come up. But Boyd should have been on.
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Stephen101,

But he is slow...and fat 13/10/2008 08:06:16
Why does Boyd not paint himself pink with big dots all over. We need a Mister Blobby to laugh at with all this financial crisis stuff going on.

If Boyd is so confident in his own ability, why not tell Walter who to put in the team on Saturday? Come on big man, let's hear you....
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PoltonPirate,

Bonnyrigg 13/10/2008 08:18:41
kris Boyd walks out on Scotland because Burley leaves him on the bench.I thought he would have been used to that every week in the SPL.
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harvey05,

eh 13/10/2008 08:21:58
Who does Boyd think he is? Van Basten!!!

Boyd is an average player, who's also lazy. He will take one chance in 4 or five.He probably wouldn't have missed the open goal. It's just that he would still have been jogging into the box when the cross came in, so it wouldn't have been a chance for him at all.
As for Burley....Well his tactics were mince. I didn't realise Carew could run so fast, or was it Caldwell and Weir are very slow?
Brown playing in a holding role? His game is getting up and down the park, making tackles and creating space for others. So Burley took him out of the game.
McFadden a lone c.fwd.Don't think so, he either plays wide or off the front man, so Burley took him out the game too.
Very disappointed!!!!!
49

Rambo.the.Jambo,

Edinburgh 13/10/2008 08:28:01
Isn't it strange (maybe not) that a 'SCOTLAND STRIKER' story has, yet again, turned into a Weegie bigoted sectarian debate??????????????????

Anyway, as far as Scotland strikers is concerned, many years ago when John Robertson was a prolific scorer he was constantly overlooked in favour of the (then) vastly under-rated McCoist.

When Robbo finally got his few caps he scored regularly, but was suddenly dropped.

At that time when he was overlooked for the last time, Roxburgh chose to go with an injured and unfit Mo Johnston, publicly stating 'an unfit Maurice Johnston is better than no Maurice Johnston at all.'

Shame on all Scotland managers past and present who can't see past this 'must have worn green or blue jerseys to be good enough for Scotland' syndrome.
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

13/10/2008 08:28:29
One man who will be very happy about Boyd's decision is Chris Iwelemo. It's taken a lot of the heat off him. Like a previous poster, I'd rather see 10 Iwelemos in the squad ho want to play for their country than one Kris Boyd. Good riddance and no wonder he can't even get a regular starting place with his club either if this is his attitude.

#64 Burley's tactics were mince to start with - 2 wide players and no-one to get on the end of crosses - but he changed it about and in the second half we threatened more. Why should we expect to beat Norway though? Their players have better pedigrees and are more dedicated as Boyd's behavious illustrates. Look how many of them leave their country at a young age and establish themselves in La Liga or the EPL or Serie A? In Scotland we get people like Maloney and Ferguson who get homesick after 2 seasons and run back to the OF as they can't cut it. Get rid of the Old Firm players and Scotland will do much better - at the very least we'll have a team to be proud of.
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The Equaliser,

13/10/2008 08:30:26
56 hand in a strangers back pocket

"I see BF has been sticking the boot in again, ne can eff off too"

Spoken like a true News of The World pundit.

The major problem for Scotland at the minute is Fergusons absence as we lack his experience at the highest level and the quality, awareness, drive and leadership he brings to the team.

It is far reaching in that others are effected as well such as D Fletcher who has been a pale shadow without BF beside him.

So why don't you take your own advice
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AngusB.,

Baghdad 13/10/2008 08:30:32
Regardless of what folk think of Burley and imo I thought Scotland were the better side, Boyd has no right to do what he has done. The guy should be barred from ever putting a Scotland jersey on. These are times when you need the boys to stick together, not have a wee tanty and leave a message on an answering machine - Grow up Boyd get back in the saddle and do your part to get us to South Africa!
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The Equaliser,

13/10/2008 08:34:25
66 GeorgeCowieOrWalterKiddin us on?,

"Get rid of the Old Firm players and Scotland will do much better - at the very least we'll have a team to be proud of".

Another delusional clown strikes again.

You'll be one of the nuggets that think the Hertz are doing well.

Scotland deserve better than your expectations.
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GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

13/10/2008 08:41:45
#69 Mysterious withdrawals, injuries that never are, petty fits like this, never playing for Scotland the way they play for the OF - get rid of the lot of them. The OF are an anomaly. Without them Scottish football in general would be far better off - we'd have a competitive league and players who want to achieve more than just picking up a massive pay cheque for just the one tough game against Celtic/Rangers four times a year. As someone above said, if Boyd was still at Killie or anyone but Rangers/Celtic he'd be fighting for his place in the team.
55

Will1875,

13/10/2008 08:41:57
Burley has not got what it takes. Get rid of him now.

As for Boyd, he's too lazy to be an international player. Players must track back and help out.

As with McCulloch, not great loss. I think Fletcher will be a better all round striker.
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Reasoned Debate,

13/10/2008 08:44:49
Most people would agree that it was Boyd who should haven come on. However, Burley was one shocking miss away from being the hero of the day (brave substitution and all that). Had Iwelumo scored, no one would be jumping up and down about Boyd. If he does not want to play, so be it. It's a pity because he is the most natural goalscorer we have. I take he will be quitting Rangers soon, as he does not get a game there either !
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 13/10/2008 08:53:24
Everyone's behaviour since Saturday has been ridiculous and embarrassing. Had Iwemulmo simply fallen over and let the ball bounce in off his backside, we'd be sitting fairly pretty with six points and everyone would be praising the way Scotland ground out an ugly win in a difficult game. You can't in a million years blame the manager for a professional footballer being unable to convert an open goal from three yards, and had he done so the first half would have been forgotten.

Nevertheless, the WORST POSSIBLE position we're going to be in after Wednesday's games is two points off second place, with Macedonia and Iceland still to come to Hampden. Beating the Dutch to top the group was always a wildly optimistic notion, so having to make up two points in five games is hardly the impossible dream some complete idiots in the media are making it out to be.

As for Boyd, someone pick the poor wee lamb's toys up and put them back in his pram, eh? You can't give everyone a game, and Burley is entirely accurate in pointing out that the guy barely gets a kick for his club side at the moment, so he's entitled to pick the man who's playing regularly and in scoring form, regardless of the hindsight of that miss. Would Boyd even have bothered to run that far?

We are NOT out of contention for World Cup 2010, by a long long way, and for one of our players to worsen our chances with a childish tantrum is despicable, end of story. (Unless he was doing it out of the kindness of his heart to take the headlines away from Iwemulmo, I guess.) Even if there's bad blood between Boyd and the manager - and it sounds like there is - NO MATTER WHAT THE REASON he owes it to both his team-mates and the Scotland fans to make his announcement quietly in a few weeks when everyone's calmed down.
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imp artial,

13/10/2008 09:00:37
For what its worth, what we needed saturday was a penalty box predator alongside Faddy - not just for the missed chance, but for quite a few others in a packed penalty box. We have one, and he wasnt played. Maloney lost more balls than a blind ballboy. Brown not utilized. D.Fletcher all over the place. Thanks again to Gordon that we wernt trounced. Smith and Burly - safety first, old school, out of touch.
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 13/10/2008 09:02:59
#77 What do you care? You support Britain anyway, and England will be there to carry your flag, the Union Jack.
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Harlem Tam,

13/10/2008 09:11:09
BTO - Weir made a mistake which allowed Carew to run in on goal. Only Gary Caldwell's last-gasp tackle deflected his shot for a corner, although the ref gave a goal kick. So how you can say Weir didn't put a foot wrong is beyond me.

Scott Brown was man of the match, closely followed by Shaun Maloney.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/10/2008 09:11:34
IMO Boyd SHOULD have been on as sub before Iwelumo.The rest,as they say,is history...

Now we have an unedifying situation where a player greets with his petulant lip trembling that he is not getting a game...Undermining the manager and the rest of the team at a time when unity is SO important.

Question for Mr Boyd....Since this scenario is similar to the one you face at club level..why havent you taken the same course of action there?

Can it be the rather large sum of money that goes ito your bank account every week...Surely not!

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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 13/10/2008 09:14:09
#81 When did you become official post reviewer? You're just a rabid Unionist troll who's probably delighted to see Scotland in trouble, like so many Rangers fans.
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Bob M,

Rugby Park 13/10/2008 09:19:40
Gordon Smith: "If Kris spent a bit more time thinking about it, he might have changed his mind"

Unfortunately Gordon, thinking is not one of Kris' strengths.
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aljok.23,

the world 13/10/2008 09:21:41
And what's he gonna say to Walter Smith , the prima donna tw@t. With that attitude Boyd is not good enough for a Scotland Squad in tiddlywinks.
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Reasoned Debate,

13/10/2008 09:29:01
#84 Rev et al. Don't respond to BTO or his equally idiotic mate the pundit. They have no interest in Reasoned Debate. Their only interest is Rangers. They have no interest whatsoever in Scotland. Just look at his post at #77, that's not a statement of fact, that's his dearest wish !
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Alan B,

13/10/2008 09:32:27
What is it with Scotland that we have so many players that cannot be bothered with their country.

Boyds is a disgrace and throwing his dummy because he is simply not good enough to demand a start. He has even been dropped by Rangers recently.

The guy has the ability to do well but the attitude he showed here is the same attitute that will mean his career will no fulfill his potential.

When Smith refused to play him you can tell it is partly down to his stunt to undermine Le Guen.
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qohldr,

13/10/2008 09:32:39
I would see the point of any player making this decision if he was playing regular football for his team and being left on the bench at international level.
Boyd however is not playing regular football for his club so should not be surprised that a player who is was picked before he was to play.
Although he has scored 7 times for Scotland he did so in 5 games meaning that in the other 10 he did not so there is no guarantee that he would have scored in this game.
We have seen players miss sitters many times and Iwemulmo was unfortunate that he did so in his debut but that does not mean he should not play again, other than that miss he acquitted himself quite well.
There are times when a player may not wish to represent there country with good reason this is not one of those times.
Any player who thinks they are bigger than the jersey are deluded and do not deserve to wear the jersey and do should not be offered to again, Boyd fits into this category.
68

paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 09:36:08
91

Now you're on the wind up!
69

Charlatan,

13/10/2008 09:38:20
#36

David Weir and Paul Hartley both began their international careers at Tynecastle. Oops, so did Gary Naysmith and Craig Gordon.

Apart from them, what's your point?
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Alan B,

13/10/2008 09:38:53
Burley made a mistake playing McFadden through the middle himself in 4-3-3 in the first half. With that formation McFadden should have been played wide right instead of Morrison.

While Iwelumo missed a sitter he won everthing in the air. A type of player scotland have not had for a long while.

If we were going to bring on Boyd it should have been instead of Fletcher rather than Iwelumo.

Do think Scotland atleast play better football that under the last 2 manager but are struggling to get goals.

Brown had his best game for Scotland.
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:42:37
#97 "no big job so few to pick from" and yet Boyd still cant get a game tells you all you need to know about the stupid boys attitude and what not only Burley but smith thinks of him poor lazy and more hassle than he is worth. No loss to Scotland good riddance
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:45:52
must have been a slip there BTO you said we when refering to Scotland better not let Pundit see that no manlove tonight for you
73

Who?,

13/10/2008 09:46:07
Boyd has never been a regular for scotland. When Boyd was knocking them in for fun for rangers he was still never picked as first choice for scotland.

Now he is struggling to get 15 mins a game for rangers why should he then be an automatic for scotland? If other players are playing better in domestic football and scoring goals why should they play second best to Boyd?

I would be a bit worried if i were Boyd. At rangers thats PLG and WS who haven't rated him, for scotland both smith and burley haven't rated or trusted him enough to play him. Better players than Boyd have disappeared by the age of 27.

In January its down to the english championship as a sub, then in the summer league 1. Within 12 months he will be playing in the hungarian 3rd division giving interviews to the daily rangers about how its all worked out for the best.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 09:46:23
Boyd has every right to exercise his personal choice if this is how he sees fit.

The way in which he has done this stinks though in that he has stuck the boot into a beleagoured manager at a time when he least needs it. There are 6 months to go until the next game and, if this was his decision, he could have staged it better than in the immediate aftermath.

Also...as is evident, Boyd will NEVER be a first team pick at ReaRangers. "Walter" has been there 2 years and consistently left him out. If he wants to be a first team pick (which this decision seems to show he does),sooner or later, he will need to leave Ibrox.

With the pressure Burley is under, Boyd is likely to have been given a start for Scotland when he remains out the ReaRangers team.

How does this decision fit with his future choice of clubs and tx value.

Shot himself in the foot there.

I believe they call that a "Blighty" round Ibrox way.

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invictager,

Kent 13/10/2008 09:46:39
84
Who the hell are you to tell me I dont support my country.Im sick heaing ths crapp from people who just have no idea.

BTW

Although I think Burley was way out of line both with his decision and after match comments I think Boyd got it all wrong and should never be asked back.
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 13/10/2008 09:47:05
ah the power of the media..radio scotland were talking about the fact the feel good factor had been lost by burley....then waxed lyrically about the (failed) euro campaign...now if my memory serves me right smith walked out just as the going was getting tough...and mcleish failed by losing to georgia away and italy at home...but the media presented this as a great acheivement,....burley they are slagging off..the parasites are a disgrace boyds drinking buddies in the media are all behind him suprise suprise...and as ive said i wonder whos side chick young will take in his dreadful bbc blog...xxx
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:49:25
BTO one of our best not according to Burley and Smith and as you keep telling everyone Smith knows his stuff yet he doesnt play him either so whats it to be Smith knows what he is doing or Boyd one of our best?
78

Who?,

13/10/2008 09:52:55
#99 - your correct that Iwelumo is the type of player scotland have needed for years. Comparing Iwelumo to Boyd is daft as they are totally different type of players.

When faced with a choice of who to bring on Fletcher or Boyd you would always go with fletcher. Boyd has no attributes outside the box and with his lack of awarness its like playing with 10 men. Where as fletcher is actually a proper footballer who can pass, head, tackle and shoot.
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yadanca,

13/10/2008 09:55:57
nice one BTO as usual full of catty wee comments not got an answer to a proper question no problem will come back later once you have asked pundits advice and you can answer me then about Boyd or Smith
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AJ Fife,

13/10/2008 09:56:44
I used to have some sympathy with Boyd and his seemingly unfair treatment by managers! However, his petulant behaviour is a wee insight into what Mcleish, Smith and Burley have to deal with. He would do well to follow the example of Faddie, who is a true patriot and professional!

Scotland can do without this type of ego within the ranks. Plus, he looks angry ALL the time!!!!
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CBJambo,

13/10/2008 09:56:51
Will Boyd walk out on rangers next? He seldom gets off the bench there either!

Undoubtedly a talented goal poacher... but offers nothing else to his club or country and he comes across now as a spoilt wee lassie who has run off home greetin to his mum cos he wisnae picked!

His attitude to his country and manager sucks.He has been singled out by team mates to have the worst application in training and the laziest player in the squad. Talent only gets you so far... the rest is hard work and dedication. Boyd hasn't shown any... that is why he is a bench warmer!
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sonofcosmos,

glasgow 13/10/2008 10:02:27
one would like to think that after the media monkeys get over their excitement of having boyds decision to batter burely with they will reflect on boyd and his dreadful record in major games for rangers...no appearance time in the last 5 old firm games ..3 starts in the last 21 european games for rangers...when will we see some questioning of those stats ...and hey ill reprint the bbc messageboard breakdown of boyds scoring record..
83

paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 10:03:22
114....AJ

I tell you what.....there ain't anybody who can pull off that....angry....ugly.....dumb look that Boyd has!
84

CBJambo,

13/10/2008 10:05:31
#117
I think that is exactly what he's shown himself to be.

And yes he will lose a lot... the respect of his team mates, other pros who can only wish they were talented enough to be in his shoes and most importantly the respect of a nation whom he has turned his back on!

One big Loser.
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Survivor Of Riots,

13/10/2008 10:05:49
Since Minty Moonbeams declared that Scotlands true shame was Obestity and Drugs, Kris Boyds stock has dropped considerably.

Maybe he still has some influence??
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paulmac,

surrey 13/10/2008 10:06:03
116....James

This is now the 2nd time Angry face Boyd has openly engaged against a manager.....

He will be punted in January....as I don't think Wattie has a lot of time for him...
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O sole mio,

Salford 13/10/2008 10:06:13
Couldn't agree more with the Tartan Army fellow. Boyd has shown a total lack of committment to his country.