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Burley stands by bold selection



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Published Date: 03 October 2008
WHATEVER doubts may exist about George Burley's various managerial qualities, none can be raised over his boldness, flexibility or single-mindedness. While announcing his 25-man Scotland squad yesterday for the vital World Cup qualifier against Norway at Hampden on Saturday week, Burley will have been fully aware that the inclusion of such new/old faces as Chris Iwelumo and Jamie McAllister would cause at least a ripple of bemusement, if not a jolt of scepticism.
Clearly, the national team manager decided on his appointment last January that, whatever external pressures he may have to withstand, the squad charged with the task of reaching South Africa in 2010 will be identifiable by his fingerprints.

There has already been evidence of Burley's intention to distance himself from the work of his predecessors, Alex McLeish and Walter Smith, including an insistence on more aggression and more goals from midfield and the introduction of a sizeable number of previously unconsidered players. The summonses for Iwelumo and McAllister are simply confirmation of his determination to trust his own judgment.

Iwelumo is the 30-year-old Wolves striker, the Coatbridge-born son of a Scottish mother and Nigerian father, whose eight goals from seven matches this season have helped take the Midlands club to the top of the Championship in England. In what could certainly be described as an itinerant career, he has represented ten clubs, starting with St Mirren as a 17-year-old and embracing stops in Denmark, Germany and seven different destinations in England.

McAllister, also 30, is the former Queen of the South, Aberdeen, Livingston and Hearts midfielder who has, in the past year or so, been playing regularly at left-back for Bristol City. His call from Burley indicates the need for cover in that position for Gary Naysmith. In outlining the reasons for their inclusion, Burley, unsurprisingly, saw no need to be defensive or apologetic.

"In the case of Chris Iwelumo, it's simply a matter of always being on the look-out for options, of leaving the door open to anyone showing good form and playing regularly," said the manager. "He's six feet four, but, this season, he has shown that he's not just a big target man, but that he has goals in him, too.

"I spoke to his manager, Mick McCarthy, about him, and he said Chris has been in excellent form. He gives us more variety. We have quick, elusive and skilful players and he is a big target man who also has pace. He gives us another option. I know him from his time at Colchester, when he played against my team, Southampton."

Burley rejected the suggestion that Norway's well-known preference for tall, muscular types had prompted the inclusion of Iwelumo, a case of fightingfire with fire. "No, that's not the reason at all," he said.

"Sure, Norway have a lot of height and physical strength, but that's a kind of British style we're perfectly used to dealing with. We would always concentrate more on our own assets, the way we will want to play, than have our selection or tactics dictated by the opposition."

Iwelumo's inclusion means no place for either the Birmingham City striker, Garry O'Connor, or Cardiff City's Ross McCormack. Burley explained: "Garry is still not playing regularly and not quite ready.

"Ross is just a little unlucky not to have made the squad this time, but I spoke to him and assured him he hasn't been forgotten. As I said, Chris just gives us another option."

McAllister already has one cap, having been a member of the Berti Vogts-managed side who beat Trinidad and Tobago 4-1 in a friendly at Easter Road in May, 2004. He was a midfielder in Burley's charge when the latter was manager of Hearts, so this is a renewal of a former relationship. During his time at Livingston, he scored one of the goals in the West Lothian club's famous 2-0 victory over Hibernian in the 2004 CIS Insurance Cup final.

"Jamie was a midfielder when I knew him at Hearts," said Burley, "but, in the last year or so, he has settled into the left-back position and has been playing well at Bristol. Everybody knows that we were not inundated with left-backs and Callum Davidson, who had to pull out of the last squad, is still not ready. Jamie will provide reliable cover."

In the absence from central defence of the suspended Stephen McManus, the Rangers, veteran, David Weir, seems certain to form a partnership with Celtic's Gary Caldwell. "David had to call off from the squad for Macedonia and Iceland last month," said Burley, "But I saw him against Hibs last Sunday, and he was outstanding. He is very fresh and, as we do with every squad, we simply have to hope that we are not hit with a lot of injuries and withdrawals before the event."

SCOTLAND SQUAD

2010 World Cup Group 9 qualifier v Norway, 11 October at Hampden Park

GOALKEEPERS

Craig Gordon (Sunderland)

Allan McGregor (Rangers)

David Marshall (Norwich)

DEFENDERS

Graham Alexander (Burnley)

Darren Barr (Falkirk)

Christophe Berra (Hearts)

Kirk Broadfoot (Rangers)

Gary Caldwell (Celtic)

Jamie McAllister (Bristol City)

Gary Naysmith (Sheffield Utd)

David Weir (Rangers)

MIDFIELDERS

Scott Brown (Celtic)

Kris Commons (Derby)

Darren Fletcher (Manchester Utd)

Paul Hartley (Celtic)



The full article contains 890 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 02 October 2008 9:33 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scotland's football team
 
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jerrymanders,

03/10/2008 00:11:24
#1

Wattie will stop him. Bad news for Scotland, just like that Traitor.
2

thepundit,

03/10/2008 00:24:32
weir will start

its part of his agreement with burley
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thepundit,

mcgregor to start (of course)... 03/10/2008 00:55:48
#5

agreed

i noticed a few people were saying earlier that people like berra should be playing but why pick age over quality?

weir is playing for a team that is undefeated in the league thats currently the best defense in scotland in terms of goal against

id go with miller and boyd up front as they are both playing very well
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Harlem Tam,

03/10/2008 01:09:15
So, now that it has started. To the one who claimed that several Celtic fans were arrested in Villareal, and who strangely could not produce a link to the story, which I could not find after much searching, here is a translation from a Spanish newspaper MARCA:

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“The fans of Villarreal and Celtic yesterday gave a lesson on co-operation between rival fans.

“In a festive atmosphere, both sets of fans came together in Casel De Festas. At 12.30 the mood of the Celtic party, which slowly filled the precinct, was lively. The Scottish fans disembarked from the buses wearing their team’s shirt, in the case of many of them in conjunction with the yellow of Villarreal.

“There were some wearing the traditional Scottish kilts and many of them holding beers, and why shouldn’t they?

“At midday queues began to form for the giant paella which was on offer to anyone who wanted it. Others bought scarves and shirts which to remember the historic day.

“Ernesto Buixander, the president of the Celtic Submari supporters’ club, said yesterday: ‘This has allowed people to make friends, enjoy the game and work together when needed.’

“This is a true lesson to the violent (fans).”

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I would imagine the final sentence to be a swipe at the fans of a team from the south side of Glasgow after the horror of Manchester and their previous bad behaviour in Villareal.
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Harlem Tam,

03/10/2008 01:12:03
Thank you BTO - right on cue.

Well done.
8

Harlem Tam,

03/10/2008 01:12:32
The new car is fandabidozy.
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 01:17:37
#9

nobody had mentioned anything 'anti-celtic' in the 8 posts before yours

theres an anti-rangers one in there though

#10 agreed

id go with the likes of fleck, adam or beg mcculloch out of retirement before considering te other option...
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Harlem Tam,

03/10/2008 01:18:04
Scotland V Norway is live on Setanta here in Oz. Looking forward to a Scottish victory and our World Cup bid back on track.
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 01:19:09
#16

aye but rangers are just pure brilliant arent they....
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Harlem Tam,

03/10/2008 01:21:43
#15 - There were 5 pro-Rangers posts in the first 8 and as for anti_celtic comments, that is why I said " . . . and before long, an anti-Celtic tirade" and instantly, BTO obliged.

Do try to read post properly before responding.
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 01:25:01
#19

but why did you write "and before long, an anti-Celtic tirade"????

obviously an anti-celtic tirade will begin when you read the likes of post #8

why should it not?
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 01:27:45
#21

agreed on both points

burley was at the game and saw the terrific performance of adam

as for fleck, ive watched him play in a lot of games on rangers tv, he's one of the best young talents ive ever seen burst onto the scene

he's the next fergie, infact, he's the next gerrard
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 01:35:53
apparently mcgregor has a good shot on him

a woman said in the news of the world that one shot was so accurate that she couldnt see out of one eye for a week...
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 01:47:37
thats quite a prediction regarding liverpool, if celtic beat aalborg away from home then i suppose this is a year for suprises...

but the the scousers do have a similar playing style to us

barca used to have it too...
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 02:01:20
#35

fair doos but didnt spurs score 4 into celtic in pre-season too?

liverpool are joint top of the prem while spurs are in last position

puts things into perspective
doesnt it
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thepundit,

rangers - unofficial uefa cup champions 03/10/2008 02:18:07
#40

silly?

watch the next liverpool game and if they play as well as they normally do then you'll see that their style is exactly like rangers'

you could say it was like man utd's play last year
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Harlem Tam,

03/10/2008 02:51:22
Jacqueline - So let me get this straight. I post an article from a Spanish newspaper which praises the Celtic fans to the hilt, and finishes with a barbed attack on Rangers fans during their visit to Villareal when they attacked the home team's bus and Rangers were fined and warned by UEFA for that and the signing of sectarian songs. Last year Rangers fans disgraced Scotland with the Manchester riot which was headline news around the world.

You counter all this by claiming - and we are still waiting for the link to the story - that out of a crowd of 5,000+ Celtic fans in Villareal this week, 3 (that's T-H-R-E-E) were arrested. Assuming that this were true, and we all know you are making it up, but assuming it were true, how does THAT compare with the above about Rangers fans?

And why didn't the Spanish newspaper mention arrests?

Keep trying matey, but with every feeble attempt, you make yourself look more and more of a buffoon.

And finally, why would you presume to know what languages I do or do not speak? As it happens, I speak English, French, German and a smattering of Italian, but not Spanish. I copied and pasted the report from another website.
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Harlem Tam,

03/10/2008 02:57:07
I have been reading BTO's and thepundit's comments about how big Rangers are and playing like Liverpool etc and how Rangers are the benchmark for the top Euro teams and so on, with a smile, believing they were both continuing in good banter and wind-up mode.

I then nearly fell off my chair upon reading thepundit's post #42 and I realised he was actually being serious.

Honestly, the guy is a complete idiot.

At least BTO is on the wind-up and I honestly thought thepundit was too. My God that post #42 is so funny.

There is simply no hope for you pundit. I'd give up if I were you.
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 03:10:53
#48

post 42 was a serious post

i never kid around when it comes to match analysis

so tell me tam, how many celtic and rangers fans live in your area?

you always go on about celtic fans being well behaved and celtic fans being 'shameful' but is your opinion really that significant?
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:11:56
thepundit

I will admit that the Gers are playing a far more pleasing style of football this season, as much as wish it were true I just don't see the comparisons between us and Liverpool, maybe a similar system.

Our top signing was 3.5mil, their 2 starting strikers cost over 40mil, I hate to admit it but the gulf in class now between the OF and the top EPL sides is night and day, the English can than Sky TV.
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 03:19:47
#55

i never said rangers were as good as liverpool, thats not what i was getting at

my point was that the styles are similar
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:19:55
51 Idee/obligor

Try telling the truth, in one of you're posts you stated that RFC had been implicated in the corruption scandal on the Zenit website.

I told you I had been on the Zenit website and the only thing related to the scandal was a press release denying any knowledge of what was reported by the Spanish press.

I then asked where on their website was the story you were quoting from,,I asked you to type or print it out from said website, you failed to do so.

That my friend is the truth and you know it. Now I owe you an apology for me telling the truth.
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:28:47
bto

Yesterdays thread on the Scotland playing England story.
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:35:44
60 bto

Check Idee's post @248 SFA/England article.
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:36:22
62 bto

Maybe thats good!!!
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 03:36:58
ive just went and read the post on the other thread

idee, yes, rangers' name was mentioned but the allegations were made against bayern munich so it doesnt really involve us

ps, why do you claim in that thread that it is some sort of exclusive by you when it was on the daily record site 2 days ago?
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 03:38:41
BTO

you cant save them?

i done mine earlier on and they were saved but i was having password difficulties the other day

did that happen to you also?
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:40:30
65

See post 63. No where in the Zenit website do the Russians implicate RFC in any scandal as Idee said in his post 248 on yesterdays thread.
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:47:42
Good night Idee and sorry for correcting you. I know you just made a typo error.
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 03:53:22
http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/predictor/
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Daillyman,

03/10/2008 03:56:23
Later lads and don't be to hard on Idee/obligor, he at times has some amusing posts.
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 03:57:51
laterz
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thepundit,

unofficial uefa cup champions 2008... 03/10/2008 04:10:18
nite folks

sleep tight, dont let the bed bugs bite...

infact, its those burglars you should be watching out for! lol
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Talk o' the Toun,

03/10/2008 04:17:53
BTO: what happened to you yesterday? Not like you to fold like a pack of cards.Lets resume..
We have established that you are not an ACTUARY but that you assisted one(BTW checked back posts you DID claim to be an actuary...slip of the finger!)...no need to be ashamed tea boys have their part to play.
You live in Japan/worked with SFA assisting players or wee Robbo(as in of HEARTS fame as opposed to ex NF) is your cousin;which is it? Cannot be both.

Up early this morning.Red eye to London/meeting Gordon Brown to assist with a soln to the global economy.......well you started it!

Burley: bold...bold would be to pick the best /on form players for Scotland....not a chance of that.However who ever he picks 100% behind them.TEAM:
Gordon
Broadfoot Caldwell(capt) Weir Naysmith
Hartley
Brown Fletcher Maloney

Miller McFaddy

#interesting fact: 8 of that team were at Hearts or hibs at some point(BTO/Pundit: do not waste your time trying to work out the eight as your football knowledge will not stretch that far)
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james 1st,

hamilton nz 03/10/2008 04:41:59
harlem tam
people like you are the problem so you shouldn recognise them bigots
there are among rangers fans a quantity that are bigots;but celtic fans are not all pure a quqntity of them are bigots too. from some of the comments that you have made at times itsd easy to see where you stand in that regard
incidently i hope that celtic qualify for the champions league last 16 or at least the uefa cup, and i dont support celtic, but i do recognise that it is good for scottish football. compare that to many celtic posters who couldnt wait for rangers to fall out last year because of their anti rangers bitterness
big problem for celtic supporters is thei holier than thou attitude.
i was in scotland on holiday at the end of last season and made the mistake of going into a pub at the barras with a game on telly and the bitter vlle comments and behavior from the celtic followers present was the equal of anything the worst of soccer fans anywhere comprehend,we left after a very short stop without mentioning that we would have preferred a rangers win
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Hobo Harry,

03/10/2008 04:58:57
76 Talk o' the Toun, I make it 9. Broadfoot I believe was a Hibby too.
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Hobo Harry,

03/10/2008 05:19:56
Ah, seems I was wrong. Incorrect with my thinking on Naysmith
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thepundit,

03/10/2008 05:30:08
#83

naysmith was a jambo (1996-2000)

the other 7 were gordon, weir, broadfoot, caldwell, hartley, miller and brown

the fletcher he was referring to was darren, not steven

i really should be sleeping, nite all
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Richardinho,

03/10/2008 06:00:44
Can we trust the rangers players not to accept bungs to throw the match?
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Richardinho,

03/10/2008 06:42:29
#92 Until the rangers players are declared 'clean' by the investigation, the suspicion will linger. The entire squad from that game must co-operate fully with the investigation by opening up their finances and submitting themselves to questioning.
Of course, if they have done nothing wrong then they should have nothing to hide.
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Richardinho,

03/10/2008 07:02:42
#95 Telling lies about Celtic isn't going to help rangers if the allegations that they took bribes to throw the Uefa game turn out to be true.
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Richardinho,

03/10/2008 07:16:12
#97
This report suggests different

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/2008/10/02/zenit-st-petersburg-deny-fixing-uefa-cup-matches-including-final-against-rangers-115875-20766223/
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Richardinho,

03/10/2008 07:23:00
#99 That's a hilariously weak response when confronted with facts, bto.
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Exiled in Sydney,

03/10/2008 07:52:33
The article suggests something about the rangers game (quite differnet to making an allegation)but the only thing approaching ACTUAL evidence is "According to Spanish newspaper El Pais, a Spanish judge has heard a taped telephone conversation in which Russian criminal Gennadios Petrov claims to have paid Zenit's semi-final opponents Bayern Munich." which is limited to the bayern game.

If you believe players paid what those guys are would swap the likely once in a life time chance of a european medal for some extra cash then quite frankly you're daft...more likely you're on the wind up.
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Richardinho,

03/10/2008 07:58:11
#102 nothing has been cleared up bto. they haven't finished the investigation yet. And I have to laugh at the fact that you yourself implicate rangers in that first paragraph-way to go dummy!
But I'm sure you'll agree with me that the whole rangers squad from that game have to co-operate fully with the investigation?
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Richardinho,

03/10/2008 08:24:39

Just answer the question; Do you agree that rangers should co-operate fully with the investigation by opening up their finances and submitting themselves to questioning-or not?
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carrottop,

Dumfries 03/10/2008 09:13:30
Would be lucky to get a decent SPL side out of that lot!
With most Scottish (and English) teams sounding like the register for a refugee camp what do we expect.
Why do Ranger and Celtic 'fans' think we want to read their drivel on an international post, their greed was instrumental in wiping out the quality Scottish international, their drivel is close to wiping out any intelligent posting on these boards.
Definition of an old firm fan:- unimportant little numpties making themselves feel important by giving their benefits to a squad of foreigners who have more chance of winning than them.
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 09:35:22
Morning Ladies......

What's this.......corruption in a Euro match?

Dear oh dear.....the last time corruption was stinking out a Euro competition was in 92-93....hang on Rangers were in the mix of that as well!

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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 09:38:47
What was the ex Rangers manager Dick 'the wig' Advocatt's involvement?
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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 09:51:02
Can't believe FC Bayern are at all implicated in this. Individual players...possibly.

Only the lunatic fringe of humanity (that's you NN) could conclude that Rangers are in any way involved.

It is convenient to deflect from the real Euro story this week, 1 pt from 48.

To try to hold up STV as some sort of credible media outlet is as proposterous as your diddy allegations.

When looking for breaking news stick to media outlest with some credibility, not the weegie version of newsround.

Reuturs fits the bill....now find Rangers in this article.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/footballNews/idUKL245926820081002

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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 10:00:34
If the allegations against Zenit and Bayern are true then the right thing for Uefa to do would be to award the trophy to Rangers.

This could be done on the 27th of December at Ibrox, with the visiting team forming a guard of honour as Rangers walk out to accept the trophy from William Galliard. GCC could lay on a bus for an open top parade before a civic reception. The Provost and Councillors will be bale to show their appreciation and high regard for Rangers achievements.

The fans would need to get some more stars for the jerseys...but it's a small price to pay.
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 10:01:07
BTO

Been in Spain......CL stuff.....you won't understand!

So.....how is it goin with the Japanese
micro-economics and your accountant friend?
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 10:08:09
111

1 pt from 48 and we've still lost fewer games than Rearrangers....and won more in the history of the European cup/CL....

Go figure....
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Swordsman,

Dublin 03/10/2008 10:09:34
Morning Girls!

Apologies for the cut and paste but thought it worth repeating here.From the Herald Diary...


Untouchables
RANGERS fans on their website have naturally been discussing the bribery allegations surrounding their Uefa Cup final opponents Zenit St Petersburg. As one fan put it: "They gave us £1m for that plank Fernando Ricksen. I always knew they were dodgy."

Sadly, the fact that the club itself is in no way implicated in the allegations has not pleased everyone. "So in effect we were too p*** to bribe. Sadly that could well be true," wrote one morose supporter.

Many a true word spoken in jest...Indeed,Indeed
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invictager,

Kent 03/10/2008 10:14:15
I don't think it was a jest.
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invictager,

Kent 03/10/2008 10:17:39
Why would the likes of Zenit need to pay to beat us. I would kill(figuratively) for a player like Arshavin.

The simple fact is that with sponsors who have billions in the bank then they are a league above.

That is why we should ALL be proud of both the OFs achievements in recent years because it really isn't a level playing field.
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 10:23:30
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Why are we not surprised that you want UEFA to give you trophies you didn't win and don't deserve.....

There's also the little matter of the Manchester riot...

Never mind.....the opponents of Olympique Marseille never got handed the trophy after the bribe problems in 92-93....

Oh....and were Rearrangers involved in that shannigans as well?
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Survivor Of Riots,

03/10/2008 10:25:28
Here is the link to the story which broke the match fixing allegations.

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-res&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.es%2Fhemeroteca%2Fresultados%2Fcapos.html&lp=es_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

This is the one Zenit are considering legal action against and published their reply on their website.

Notice in this article, BOTH clubs are implicated.

2nd day reporting from a German news agency (Reuters) focus on the fact that a top German team have been pin pointed. Fair enough...thats cos their German I s'pose

2nd day reporting in Scottish news outlets focus on the fact that a top German team have been pin pointed. Fair enough....thats cos their Scottish I s'pose.
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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 10:28:24
#121

Still hurting after Tuesday.... good! Hamilton won't get 26 shots on goal this weekend so that should perk you up a wee bit.

Sorry to be a pedant but it would be THOSE Shenanigans
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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 10:37:57
#116

Indeed, Rangers couldn't win away in Manchester.
Celtic can't win away...anywhere
Motherwell can't win..

That's Yourup for you.

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Survivor Of Riots,

03/10/2008 10:54:37
#127 - nah, that will be Aalborg, conquerers of Kaunus, conquerers of ReaRangers
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:01:14
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Jeeeeeesus.....the grammar queen strikes again....seriously that's your bag is it?

Mincing around these threads looking for missing full stops and the mis-use of capital letters.....you complete spanner!

Regards CL...Not at all......I had a great time in Spain!

Yer right Villarreal are no Cow-nooooos....

Ps.....how did yer game against Morton behind close doors go?
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:02:46
Villarreal manager quote.....

"It has been a long time since I've seen a visiting keeper play so outstandingly"

Artur....the best keeper in Europe!
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surrey 03/10/2008 11:04:26
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And Gordon Strachan has still won more CL games than ugly Wattie....

Go figure...
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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 11:06:44
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Nineinro will keep you right factually #128, I'll keep you honest with the spelling and grammar.Together we can help you with substance and form.

Unfortunately there is no help available for your soor puss.
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:12:25
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The threads Forest Gump strikes again!

Marseille were stripped of the trophy....but are still listed as the winners and the trophy was never re-presented to the runners up AC Milan.

You complete plank!



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surrey 03/10/2008 11:14:53
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I refer you to 134 again!
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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 11:15:40
#134 Viilareal goalkeeper quote.

"I thought the big lass was going to score befor half time. I shouted "gender reassignment" and she sclaffed it off her right stilleto".
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:16:23
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I refer you to post 141
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surrey 03/10/2008 11:18:33
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Wow....another wonderful retort....

You should get together with BTO and his actuary mate...

What a riveting combo you 3 would make on a night oot!
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:19:50
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Be more specific....in what respect?

Do you need the above questioned explained?
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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 11:22:09
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In this climate of alleged corruption could we put Borat's show at 'Ra Fortress down to a Grobbelaaresque scenario? Old Arty does have some hotel repairs to stump up for.
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paulmac,

03/10/2008 11:23:12
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Hhahahahahahahahahhahaha.....JEEEEEEEEESUSS CHRIST MAN....ask UEFA.....ya ffhhud!

Once again you've proved yersell to be a complete spanner......supported in your spanner-ness by Darkbrains....

What a double act!
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:26:38
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That's not what Forest Gump....sorry Nineinro was stating.....

He stated AC Milan had been awarded the trophy....probably based on what he thought had happened.....which they hadn't....Marseille was stripped of the trophy.
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03/10/2008 11:27:26
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No chance of you making it a foursome.Ye'd turn the milk in BTO's skinny Latte sour.



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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:33:12
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Another who needs educated......

Your lack of football knowledge is to be expected....you follow Rearrangers

The competition is and always has been....

The Champions of Europe Cup....take a look some time......in the trophy room of any club that has won it...

EUFA have listed Celtic as winners in 1967 and Manchester United as winners in 2008

Just ask UEFA.....or don't you want to?.....based on the fact you've never won it?
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darkhorse.,

03/10/2008 11:35:49
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You do have to wonder. Wattie showed him how to play a canny away game in Europe and get results, SP Lisbon, Fiorentina,Lyon etc. He even told him the formation.

Only Ches could play two wee nyaffs and disaffected free kick taker in a midfield 5, and a one footed tranny up front.
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paulmac,

surrey 03/10/2008 11:40:33
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Be more specific.....

Your generalised question can't be answered with a yes or no....

In fact....the question doesn't merit a response based on it's rather uneducated presentation....
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