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Commons and Barr in revamped Scots squad



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Published Date: 13 August 2008
GEORGE Burley yesterday left his fingerprints all over the Scotland squad to face Northern Ireland next week, a certain indicator of his keenness to transform the group he inherited from Alex McLeish into one that is identifiably his own.
A number of inclusions and omissions in every outfield department seemed to signify that one or two international careers are in the process of being born, while others are being terminated.

Burley could not be expected to state in public that specific players have been consigned to history, but it is reasonable to infer from the make-up of the 24-man pool that only an extreme emergency would lead to the resurrection of veteran defenders David Weir, Christian Dailly and Graham Alexander. That would seem also to apply, perhaps to a lesser degree, to two other defenders, Russell Anderson and Jay McEveley, as well as midfielders and forwards Lee McCulloch, Gary Teale, Stephen Pearson, Shaun Maloney and Garry O'Connor.

Burley was quite explicit over his preference for the Celtic pairing of Gary Caldwell and Stephen McManus in central defence – he expressed the hope they would become the kind of partnership Willie Miller and Alex McLeish formed in the 1980s – and the drafting of 23-year-old Darren Barr of Falkirk and the retention of Hearts' Christophe Berra suggests they will be the understudies.

In the matter of raising eyebrows, Barr's call-up was second only to that of Kris Commons, the 24-year-old Derby County midfielder whose qualification to represent Scotland is his Dundee-born paternal grandfather. Commons was born in Mansfield, began his professional career at Stoke City and established a reputation with Nottingham Forest before joining Derby in the summer on a Bosman.

One of the "new" players is actually quite old. The restoration of 32-year-old Callum Davidson of Preston North End, however, merely exposes the poverty of Burley's resources at left-back. The manager's only other contender for the position is Gary Naysmith, who, despite being still three months short of his 30th birthday, has been diminished by years of injury, not the force he seemed likely to become when he first made an impression as a teenager with Hearts.

The unavailability of the injured Alan Hutton would appear to leave the right-back position in the hands of Kevin McNaughton of Cardiff City, at the expense of Rangers' Steven Whittaker. The former Hibernian defender has been one of the Ibrox side's strugglers through the pre-season programme and the three competitive matches played in the Champions League and the domestic championship.

"It's important to keep progressing and to bring young players through," said Burley, hinting strongly that those who are not members of this latest squad will not be required for the forthcoming World Cup qualifying campaign, for which the meeting with Northern Ireland at Hampden is a final warm-up.

"Players like Darren Barr and Christophe Berra, James Morrison in midfield and David Clarkson in attack are being encouraged. Barr and Berra deserve inclusion in the squad to help them develop as international players, but I will say that Gary Caldwell and Stephen McManus have established themselves as a partnership.

"They are there regularly for Celtic and I am hopeful that they can become for us what Miller and McLeish were in the eighties. They'll keep their places, all right. I have spoken to David Weir, but you have to remember that he is 38 now. He's been a credit to himself and I'm sure he'll play a lot more games for Rangers, but we have to look ahead.

"I'm very happy with the Caldwell-McManus pairing, but you always need cover and we want to develop the younger players who are showing so much potential."

Commons was described by Burley as a rarity, a natural, left-footed wide player who can go past opponents and deliver telling crosses.

"I saw a lot of Kris when I was manager at Derby and he was playing for Stoke and then Forest," he said. "He is very talented, and we don't have a natural left winger who can get past people and whip in good crosses. He has had good experience at Forest and (Derby manager) Paul Jewell says he's among the best he's worked with. I've spoken to Kris about his willingness to play for Scotland, and he is desperate to join us, very positive.

Burley insisted that the 24 he nominated yesterday is not the definitive Scotland squad, revealing that he may consider bringing back "one or two" experienced players for the World Cup. But is was difficult to escape the impression that such changes would only be occasioned by a depletion of resources.

"Alan Hutton and Barry Ferguson will obviously return when they're recovered and hopefully Alan will be with us for the opening double-header in Macedonia and Iceland next month," he said.

"I'm also hopeful that we'll have fewer call-offs at this time of the year, when players are fresh and strong. I certainly wouldn't want to see the nine or ten we had at the end of last season. I can't wait, for example, to see James McFadden. He hasn't been able to play for me yet, but we all know what he can do. He's back and fully fit again with Birmingham."

The full article contains 893 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

jerrymanders,

13/08/2008 00:25:14
Shaun Maloney consigned to history, along with Stephen Pearson and Garry O'Connor? Aye, right. You got it right with McClugger and Weirysome though.
2

Doubly-negative,

13/08/2008 00:53:34
"Burley was quite explicit over his preference for the
Celtic pairing of Gary Caldwell and Stephen McManus in central defence – he expressed the hope they would become the kind of partnership Willie Miller and Alex McLeish formed in the 1980s..."

Sacrilege!
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13/08/2008 01:25:33
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Broomagebairn,

kazakhstan 13/08/2008 03:12:00
Raising eyebrows about Barr's inclusion why ? He's been outstanding for the last two seasons when, in case you didn't notice Mr Gibbons, Falkirk finished in seventh place. Maybe if he'd been playing for some second division side in England it would have been acceptable to for him to be in the Scottish squad but not if he's at Falkirk. Take a good look, Falkirk are developing young players at a higher rate and standard that the great majority of clubs in the SPL. Very sloppy and blinkered sir, if he's good enough, and he is, Scottish by birth and available there's no reason for him not to be selected. Sorry you can't spot a good player maybe you're in the wrong branch of journalism
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Lauder Lad,

13/08/2008 07:43:38
#5 Does anyone really care about the goings on through at Ibrox - I thought this was an article about the national team
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Impartial,

Dundee 13/08/2008 07:59:45
How happy you seem to be living as a bitter, twisted bigot, just the kind of retard, who keeps Scottish football in the dark ages. I cannot speak for the others but I do know that Walter Smith is not a liar and I cannot comprehend, why a man already under some pressure, would collude with colleagues, to disadvantage himself. I suggest, when such serious allegations are contemplated, that you confront the man face to face with your accusation, instead of sniping from anonimity, which is a historical trait of despicable bigots like you.
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Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 08:11:30
# 2Pasquenade

WRONG

You can't get on a Rangers/Celtic thread because the Scotsman will not allow it, due to the massive amounts of sectarian bile posted. That is why they banned threads on Bigot Brothers stories. So instead they hijack other threads to infect hem with their usual brand of sectarian hatred.


We don't want you. go away, this is not the place to debate your Weegie differences.
9

Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

13/08/2008 08:22:48
Is the writer, and George Burley, really trying to tell us that Calum Davidson at 32 is our second best left back??
10

Scunner,

Bonnie Scotland 13/08/2008 08:28:25
Another Englishman playing for Scotland....poor stuff!! Nae wonder the Scottish league is mince if he has to go to England's lower leagues for players.
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thebigiam,

13/08/2008 08:40:12
It's an odd looking Scotland squad. I'm a bit surprised Burley has made as many changes as he has to a squad that was doing pretty well and had got us to 16th in the world. I know there are injuries and everything, but all the same, I can't help but hope the squad looks a bit more familiar and a bit less experimental when the serious stuff kicks off.
12

Johnny Jambo,

13/08/2008 08:51:56
#6 Whilst I agree with you, I think poster # 5 has a valid point and there is a lot of debate in the Cuellar sale.

So come on Scotsman be fair to those who wish to debate the Cuellar affair.
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Johnny Jambo,

13/08/2008 08:57:12
Looks to me like a lot ofpeople who are "surprised" at Burley's squad are worried in case he finds a good player or two, come on lets be honest, Weir as good as he has been over the years is finished at this level, same with Dailly, as are a number of others, Lee McCulloch was never good enough in the first place neither is McEveley, Alexander or Teale. Calum Davidson is I would think short term until Hutton is fit again.

I think the problem is that Burley is doing what Berti Vogts did and brought in youth and people are worried, whilst I think bringing in new players is good, lets be honest we do not have a lot of World Class Players do we???
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/08/2008 09:00:30
Quite an unusual looking squad but lets give Burley the benefit of the doubt on this one..a great chance to blood a couple of up and coming players,give the older guard a "rest" and see what transpires...not sure abot C Davidson though!

#12...Agreed..I advocate using the quieter threads ie English football ones to accomodate the OF debate until the Scotsman decides to relent on its policy

15

Alasdair,

13/08/2008 09:06:55
To be fair to Burley, at least the likes of Berra is young, and is playing every week. Russell Anderson's season of injury means he loises out at the moment.. but my concern is that he's actually a better player than Berra.
Also, I didn't think I'd ever say it, but (calamity) Caldwell is actually looking better than McManus these days. I never thought McManus was captain material though..

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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/08/2008 09:09:23
BTO..sure he was but that was then,this is now.
As a previous poster suggests he's there as cover for Hutton in the short term, but if we are clearing the decks of all the old guard surely that should include the full backs?
17

Swordsman,

Dublin 13/08/2008 09:12:25
Hes also joint top scorer against the former world champions too...:@)
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AJ Fife,

13/08/2008 09:16:03
Interesting selection, but surely Maloney isnae aw washed up? The others that are mentioned in the articles are dumplings to be fair, but not Maloney!
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AJ Fife,

13/08/2008 09:32:48
BTO,

Gone are the days when the mighty Fife directly supplied Scotland stars like Charlie 'Legs' Fleming, Geordie Aitken and Henry Morris. The last East Fife 'great', to cut the international mustard, was Gordon Durie, albeit via Hibs and Chelsea!

However, although the current squad are cutting through the Scottish leagues like a hot knife through butter, it's unlikely the Fife will reach the extraordinary heights of the 1950's again. As long as we stuff Raith Rovers on a regular basis, that will suffice!
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Indigo Nightlight,

13/08/2008 09:35:19
I like the squad. He's dropped O'Connor, Maloney and Pearson because they are not getting a game with their clubs. This is hopefully a wake up call for anyone content to sit on a bench and get a paycheque rather than moving somewhere they will get a game.

Davidson I think is only in because of lack of alternatives at left back. Naysmith is injury prone, and McEveley is not good enough. After that who is there? Lee Wallace, who a lot of Hearts fans don't think is good enough for us. Nobody at Hibs, Celtic, Rangers, Aberdeen, Dundee Utd. Davidson is a solid enough player in the short term.

Good also to see him looking at players outwith the main teams in the SPL with Barr, who has looked good when I have seen him.

And good to see him ditch deadwood in Dailly, McCulloch, Alexander, Teale and Murty.
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Johnny Jambo,

13/08/2008 09:38:27
#15 bto - yes Burley does know the players better than Berti did, however Berti was supposed to have had a backroom team who knew the players, as I assume George Burley has, I don't think he (Berti) made the selections all on his own and neither will Goerge.

I do agree however that we do need a makeover within the squad although I do not worry about players ages too much, if they can still perform then they should be in the team, and players like David Weir could be used and non squad members alongside the youngsters to work with them using their experience, say a 22/23 man named squad along with 7 or 8 non squad players might be a good idea.
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AJ Fife,

13/08/2008 09:41:02
BTO,

Nae point in getting oot the traps too quickly. It's a marathon, no a sprint!

btw, I wonder if auld Walter will use that wan?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/08/2008 09:47:54
BTO so he's here for the duration then,lololol
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Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 13/08/2008 09:52:10
Re the omission of Anderson, Maloney, Pearson, McEveley et al; surely it's a good thing that Scotland have, at last, stopped relying on a small pool of players and are taking the chance to bring in a few new faces? For too long we ran with a team plus handful of subs and, if there were two or three (or seven or eight?) call-offs due to club European commitments, injuries, tiredness or whatever we were forced to draft in almost unknown and frequently untried players. George Burley is doing, in my view, the sensible thing. For a friendly game, he is introducing a few playeres who are perhaps not first choice squad players so that if, when we get to the midst of the qualifying campaign, there are players who need a rest we don't have to bring in a player with absolutely no knowledge of how the squad trains and is set up to play. Bring them in now, even as a one-off for a friendly, and if they are needed later, they are prepared; they know their new team-mates and understand the tactics, what to do at set pieces and so forth.
As far as the oldies - Weir, Dailly, Teale & co - are concerned, we should thank them for their service over the years and perhaps also be looking at the bold step of replacing all the 30+ players (including Barry Ferguson) with a view to not just the 2010 finals but the 2012 Euros (by which time all these 30 year olds will be 34).
Keep up the good work George - this is one "Team GB" that the Scots will support! :-)
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13/08/2008 09:52:35
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AJ Fife,

13/08/2008 09:54:58
BTO,

He's maybe angling for one last massive pay off. He's probably doon tae his last 10 million!
27

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 13/08/2008 09:57:22
#26 - Agree re the players getting a game; we need players who are match fit, not suffering from splinters. As for the left back slot, left sided defenders are a pretty rare commodity for all nations. I noticed that Charlie Mulgrew of Aberdeen was in the U21 squad as a left midfielder but is playing at the back for his club. He may be one for the future.
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13/08/2008 10:06:17
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Beady,

Edinburgh 13/08/2008 10:13:19
What a refreshing change to see a manager make changes and shape a team in his own image.
I predict we will qualify top of the group and get past the first group stage for the first time in a world cup.
I also predict there will be no return for 'the crab!'
30

Ribbonman,

Glasgow (east) 13/08/2008 10:17:29
#29 BTO.... SO! we can take it that WS will be hanging around at RFC for a long time to come! whau ! whau! whau!
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Johnny Jambo,

13/08/2008 10:24:01
#36 wow thats some statement, I agree its refreshing to see changes, but top the group and qualify from the World cup group thats a bit strong isn't it.

I think we are good enough to qualify from this group but probably second and thats a bonus for me, getting out of a World Cup group is a different level altogether.

I hope you are right though.
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Johnny Jambo,

Doncaster 13/08/2008 10:29:40
I have some slight reservations about players like Barr, and others similar, with no disrespect to Falkirk at all if these players are good enough for a call up to the National squad why is there no clamour to sign them for more "fashionable" clubs??? I include players like Berra in this statement so I am not being biased in any way.
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13/08/2008 10:32:36
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Skiver,

13/08/2008 10:36:32
Remember this is only a friendly - a chance to see what players might be able to slot in when injuries and games between the bitter two nessecitate call-offs later in the campaign. That said, Burley has also said he sees this as a final chance to decide who will be in for the start of the campaign. We might see a serious looking lineup for one half and a more experimental one in the other.

We can only really determine how Burley will play and who he sees as key players when we see who he picks for the first qualifying match given the players available.

Mon Scotland!
35

Armo,

13/08/2008 10:51:34
What an absoulte load of duffers. More English guys we have never heard of as well.

For George Burley read Craig Brown.

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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

13/08/2008 11:05:14
Anyone care to Hazard a guess in what region the Scotland V N. Ireland attendance will be ?
37

Johnny Jambo,

13/08/2008 11:11:14
#46 - I think lucky if its 20000, any advances
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AJ Fife,

13/08/2008 11:20:36
#46,

28,746
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mot juste,

G.G.U.F.F.GerzGaffersUndermineFollowFollowerz !! 13/08/2008 11:46:54
The most commonly used adjective in the cover up brigade currently running Rearrangerz F.C. is..

.....frustrated.

"Walter",Bain,Sir Stillwantsaway but cannae get away, all use it.

The laptopmeejaroyalz,more needed than ever before,are also famous for using that word too.

The word "frustrating" does go unsurprisingly well with G.G.U.F.F.

Doesn`t it.
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Pattie O'Dores,

13/08/2008 13:00:07
#53

The best keeper in Europe? Is this the same guy who flapped at crosses, was beaten by a 30 yard free kick and let the winning goal go through his legs against the Lithuanian 'pub team' last week?

Song moment: Three Wheels On My Wagon - Barry McGuire.
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Ribbonman,

Glasgow (east) 13/08/2008 13:14:43
#53 You dont have Saint Arthur,so why are you saying that you have the best goalkeeper in Europe?
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gothenburg1983,

13/08/2008 14:04:42
Mcgregor is an ok goalkeeper. Not Scotland's best or the best in Scotland.
43

Helter Skelter,

13/08/2008 14:06:30
Had a good chuckle to myself when I imagined Bainochio spluttering out his corn flakes when he read that Celtic are in for Loovens in this morning's papers.

Minty has shown a taste for the psychologically charged signing in the past, most recently his unsuccessful attempt to sign John Hartson.

How the tables have turned on Minty since those heady days of the nineties , when Celtic could hardly pay the electricity bill and the Gasgoines and Laudrups swanned into Ibrox.

These days, Minty finds himself in the losing side in a race to sign a player from the championship, from Cardiff no less....after being compelled to flog the one gemstone he had in his box, and at a time when Champions Celtic are going for 4 in a row.

And the Scottish Champions are looking at a £10m+ windfall from UEFA whilst Minty's euro cupboard is bare.

As Minty sits in his office, the tea-cups are beginning to tremble in the saucers....oops! a wall painting has fallen from its hook...oh no! the trembling is becoming thunderous...books are falling from shelves...windows beginning to shatter.

Could these be the last days of minty ?
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 14:16:46
And the relevance of that to this thread would be...?
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gothenburg1983,

13/08/2008 14:19:55
I hope that squad signals the end of Teale and MCculloch's international careers.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 14:22:22
Me too, my friend. Weir and Dailly too.

And I'm a Rangers fan.
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gothenburg1983,

13/08/2008 14:23:28
Weir had his indian summer last season. He'll not be able to reproduce that form again. As for Dailly, he's always been shoite.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 14:25:34
We'll still have more players involved than you though ;)
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 14:27:30
McGregor is the second best keeper in Scotland, behind Boruc, and also the second best Scottish keeper, behind Gordon.

Which makes him the best Scottish keeper in Scotland!

IMO.
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Alan B,

13/08/2008 14:33:42
Burley seems to be moving the squad in the right direction.

Ditching some of the dead wood is good. There is not really anyone that had been left out that should be in.

Having said that scotland do need some of the better talents who have lost their way to be offing competition for places. Some of the flair players like Maloney, Burke, Naiysmith, Riordan are the type of players scotland could do with. OConner is another that should be giving some competition to the strikers but has not progress in the way we needed.

left back is the only real area where we do not have options.
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Alan B,

13/08/2008 14:38:32
McGregor and Boruc are similar keepers. Both good shot stoppers while being abit dodgy with cross balls.

McGregor has a good first full season with rangers last yr but needs to show that he can keep it up and progress.

Having gordon and mcgregor gives scotland options and does allow the manager to pick the form goal keeper. Becuase it is not who is necessarily technically the best but who is in form during that period of time.

It is quite a big season for both goal keepers.
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Alan B,

13/08/2008 14:42:20
#bring them on

When did Daily have a great game for scotland? He is an ok make shift full back. He is a poor choice as a holding midfield player were scotland have sometime played him.

Part of the problem for Daily was when he was at his peak, and playing for scotland at full back we were playing a back 5 and he was not exactly an attacking option. Abit weird how brown played him at left back when other managers have always rejected that a put him a right back.
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gothenburg1983,

13/08/2008 14:44:43
Dailly is a tryer. He'll work and work. Alas, he just has no ability.
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gothenburg1983,

13/08/2008 14:51:03
We can all recognise fair, hard working players. Scotland has loads of them. Why can't we produce lazy Ronaldinho types?
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Alan B,

13/08/2008 14:55:34
#bring them on

1996 was over a decade ago. He was a decent player when he went to blackburn and was a decent enough full back when playing there (if we had been playing a back 4). He was also decent in his day as one of the central defenders in a back 5.

He is a poor choice as a holding midfield player. As soon as you play him there we end up with a midfield who cannot keep pocession or pass.

And lets face it he is past it.

If a player is not first choice for his club team there really needs to be a good reason for playing him.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 15:03:39
I think that the criticism of Dailly is unjust. He's certainly past his best, but we shouldn't forget that he was, for a time, the most expensive Scottish footballer in history, when he moved from Derby to Blackburn for a fee in excess of £5 million.

I think he has actually suffered by his adaptability and became a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of player. For me, central defence was his strongest position.

I think that the Scotland-England game being mentioned should actually be the second leg of the Euro 2000 play-off at Wembley in late '99. Dailly played an excellent game and almost brought extra time with a late header that the English keeper somehow saved.
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gothenburg1983,

13/08/2008 15:21:21
Did he not header it straight at him? Seaman?
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 15:25:24
A big fat guy who never saw the ball coming...

Stevie Wonder?
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13/08/2008 15:39:07
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13/08/2008 15:48:23
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13/08/2008 15:49:05
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gothenburg1983,

13/08/2008 15:49:14
Big Nosed Kenny - Your team hasn't enough decent players to get picked for Scotland. Like mine.

Another by election on the way...Another SNP victory? A step closer to independence.

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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/08/2008 15:59:40
It's just like I've never been away....same old,
same old...Might go back to the pub...
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Skiver,

13/08/2008 16:02:31
#81

Bigger fish to fry?

Do tell.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/08/2008 16:05:34
87...There's a guy works down the chip shop swears he's Kenny,but he's a liar and he supports the blues...
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 16:15:19
#82

Nope, you'd long since turned the subject away from football and towards bigotry/sectarianism before that interjection, in the inimitable way that you usually do.
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stan free,

Cowtown, Alta 13/08/2008 16:29:00
seem to remember Dailly with another diving header against Norway at WC 98 he contrived to miss/keeper somehow saved, i think he extented his national shelf life by his outburst in dortmund, they could feed it to the brigadooners at half time after the braveheart clip - still looks like we've finally jettisoned elvis
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Daillyman,

13/08/2008 16:45:32
89 Bemused

And so a new season has begun, reading post 82 its like last seasons threads all over again.

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stan free,

Cowtown, Alta 13/08/2008 16:46:45
Billy Stark had quite a few diving/flying headers in his day; but he was always regarded as lightweight , Andy Gray at everton in eighties had to be the best contender for his knee high diving headers
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 16:52:20
Hi Brian.

Groundhog Day for sure. I turned a corner many months ago, and simply don't get personally involved on here any more, but they will try to test me from time to time!

I had a debate of sorts on here late last night with a Celtic fan, on the general subject of RFC's financial position. Because I stood my ground, he ended up making a quip about "half a brain" then started talking about "Manchester" etc.

So I simply said "goodnight" and left.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 16:58:43
Priceless Pax.

In my defence, I don't think there was actually an IRA thread open that night, so I had nowhere else to post :)

Patrick on the other hand (or whoever it was) has no such excuse. There is actually an open Cuellar thread on today's pages, and somebody there just might be interested in his views.

Now, you're getting off thread too, so pull yourself together! This is a Scotland discussion. Stay relevant.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 13/08/2008 17:00:15
Morally...I too am of Catholic stock and we had smartly dressed men who came round our house every Friday night looking for cash...We called them the Provi (NOT Provo)men or the pack men...Hide behind the couch time!!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 17:10:56
The sums are fairly transparent Pax.

RFC had debts of £16 million last summer.

They've sold two players for a combined fee of around £17 million since then.

They've had a long and very profitable European campaign since then, which probably provided income of at least £25 million all told, and probably provided profit of up to £15 million.

On the down side, they spent around £10 million on players last summer, and have spent around £9 million this summer.

The 6-monthly figures published in January, as you quote, showed a £3 million profit. The Hutton money, the UEFA cheque, the Cuellar money, and the 44,000 season ticket sales have all occurred after those figures.

So, if you reckon that RFC are somehow financially worse off than they were when the last annual accounts were released, that's your prerogative. But from where I'm sitting, with my Arithmetic "O" level, they must be better off.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

13/08/2008 17:15:12
Pax

#97 wasn't meant to be taken seriously. Lighten up, you're way too intense.

You and I are getting to the age where we have to watch our blood pressure, my argumentative friend.
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Darryl Matheson,

Elgin, Morayshire 13/08/2008 18:15:08
Why is Lee Miller not in there how can his exclusion possibly be justified, the only way he could get a place is to change club, to Falkirk perhaps.
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RANGERS LOYALIST,

Ibrox 13/08/2008 20:55:17
Burley or is it Bertie?
If a player is on form he gets in? What garbage.
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stan free,

Cowtown, Alta 13/08/2008 21:12:21
headline 'Commons and Barr' is like something straight from Mike Basset engerlund manager, like 'Benson & Hedges' getting a call up as team list drawn up on fag packet... Dodd Burley ; Scotland Manager
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Richardinho,

13/08/2008 21:13:12
I said that McManus and Caldwell would be the main central pairing after they loyally answered the call in the last couple of games. They are the future for Scotland, Weir and Daily are finished at international level.

 

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