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Published Date: 30 May 2009
HAD Ally McCoist been able to ignore the call to return to Rangers two-and-a-half years ago, he would be spending this afternoon in a television studio at Wembley as part of ITV's FA Cup final team rather than prowling the technical area at Hampden.
If his successful broadcasting career had persuaded him that it was simply too good to swap for a pressurised job in coaching, he would have spent the last few weeks finishing off another series of A Question of Sport instead of helping Rangers th
rough a fraught climax to the SPL title race.

Sir David Murray observed in January 2007 that McCoist was making a significant sacrifice to come back to the Ibrox club as assistant to Walter Smith, a view shared and often expressed by the manager himself.

But as he prepares for today's Homecoming Scottish Cup final against Falkirk, McCoist insists he has never held any reservations about the path he chose. "Dare I say it, I would actually argue with the chairman and manager on that one," he smiled. "I didn't think it was that big a decision to make, although I know a lot of people looked at it another way.

"The only decision I had to make was whether to come into a far riskier business, that goes without saying. You look at what happens to managers like Jimmy Calderwood, for example, and you think football isn't fair.

"But it wasn't a big decision for me at all to come back to Rangers. The last two-and-a-half years have been an unbelievable helter-skelter ride, I'm sure anyone would agree. There has been a bit of everything along the way.

"I just hope I can sample it for a few more years to come. It's been a bumpy ride, but I have loved every minute of it so far. There is no doubt in my mind I made the right decision."

While Rangers chairman Murray has made it clear he sees McCoist as Smith's ultimate successor as manager of the club, the 46-year-old remains reluctant to consider himself in those terms.

"Do I see myself as the manager in waiting? Not at all," he added. "I'm not just toeing the party line. I absolutely love what I am doing just now and I would never be presumptuous enough to think the next step is being Rangers manager.

"There are massive amounts of work to be done first and foremost as assistant manager. I'm very biased when it comes to the man in charge at the moment, but there is no-one I would wish to learn the trade from more than Walter Smith."

Part of that apprenticeship has seen Smith hand McCoist control of many aspects of his job for Scottish Cup ties, including team preparation and media duties.

It has been a successful arrangement so far with Rangers yet to lose a Scottish Cup tie under McCoist's nominal guidance, although he revealed he has proved less popular than might be expected with the tournament sponsors in their efforts to promote today's final.

"I refuse to have my picture taken with the cup during the build-up," said McCoist. "It is 100 per cent superstition on my part. I think I might be breaking a contract with the sponsors, but it's just one of those things I won't do. I see a lot of players and managers doing it, but I just hope to have my picture taken with it after the match."

Rangers are bidding to win the domestic championship and Scottish Cup double for the 18th time in their history and McCoist feels that would be an achievement to savour for a group of players who have spent much of the season subjected to derision of their general quality.

"I don't think there is any such thing as a bad team winning the double," he reasoned. "They have been criticised throughout the season from various areas and I'm really delighted at the way they have responded to that criticism and the questions asked of them.

"They handled that fantastically well in the league campaign and now they have an opportunity to put themselves down in history as one of the very good Rangers teams. I think that will have to be said. You have to have a special team to win a double.

"After such a disappointing start to the season with the Champions League defeat to Kaunas, for the lads to come back and win the league was terrific. But they have also given themselves a chance to be remembered as a very good Rangers team. The only way they can do that is by earning it on Saturday.

"John Hughes will be telling his players exactly the same thing, that they have the opportunity to be remembered for one of the greatest seasons in Falkirk's history if they win.

"We couldn't play any team who will be buzzing more than Falkirk are at the moment. It is a game between two teams who are flying after last weekend's results, so we are hopeful it will be a very good final.

"To be brutally honest, I could think of a few teams I'd rather be playing right now than Falkirk. I just feel their manager and players will be flying right now.

"On their day, Falkirk pass the ball as well as anyone in the country. They certainly have a good blend of experienced guys like Jackie McNamara and Steven Pressley, along with young lads who can pass the ball like Scott Arfield.

"We have calmed down after the title celebrations, we are absolutely focused on the job we have to do which is retaining the cup. It would cap off a terrific season if the boys win the double. To do so, they will have to maintain the work ethic they have shown in the past dozen games or so."

In McCoist's mind, no-one has typified that attitude more than captain David Weir and he is hopeful the 39-year-old defender will extend his remarkable top flight career for one more season.

"David's appetite for the game is incredible," said McCoist. "He was arguably as strong as any one of our squad during the final weeks of the league campaign. My advice to him would be to continue playing for as long as he can.

"There has been nothing in the last few weeks to suggest he is not capable of doing both himself and his team-mates justice for another year. David will make that decision after he sits down with the manager and chairman."

Injuries and suspensions mean some tough decisions for both managers

WALTER Smith and John Hughes must contend with injuries and suspension respectively as they decide upon the personnel and formations for today's Homecoming Scottish Cup final at Hampden.

Rangers manager Smith looks set to be without the injured midfield duo of Pedro Mendes and Maurice Edu, while his Falkirk counterpart Hughes is deprived of the services of banned Spanish midfielder Arnau Riera.RANGERS

• DEFENCE

The meanest defence in the SPL this season have also been at their resolute best in the Scottish Cup, conceding just one goal in Rangers' four ties on the way to the final. So this will certainly be the most uncomplicated part of Smith's selection process.

Neil Alexander, who has been almost faultless since replacing international miscreant Allan McGregor last month, will continue in goal behind a familiar back four. Steven Whittaker has finally made the right-back position his own, while Sasa Papac has been arguably Rangers' most consistent performer this season at left-back. The ageless David Weir and athletic Madjid Bougherra will provide a formidable central defensive barrier to Falkirk.

• MIDFIELD

Injuries to Pedro Mendes and Maurice Edu look set to mean a recall to the starting line-up for the first time in more than two months for deposed captain Barry Ferguson. The 31-year-old has appeared as a substitute in Rangers' last two league games and will relish the chance to have a central role and the opportunity to win his fifth Scottish Cup winner's medal.

With Portuguese playmaker Mendes and American international Edu both struggling to make it, Ferguson may be joined in central midfield by Lee McCulloch. Unless he is switched to a central position, Steven Davis will continue on the right flank with his Northern Ireland international team-mate Kyle Lafferty likely to keep his place on the left. Nacho Novo provides another option for the wide positions.

• ATTACK

Smith appears certain to stick with the 44-goal strike partnership of Kris Boyd and Kenny Miller at Hampden. Boyd has earned the right to start the showpiece occasion of the season and will look to add to the three goals he netted against Falkirk in the league fixtures between the sides.

Miller has been playing through a troublesome hamstring injury which may require surgery during the summer and if he is unable to start, there may be an opportunity for Nacho Novo who can bring a similar level of energy and running power to complement Boyd's predatory instincts.FALKIRK

• DEFENCE

With nine clean sheets from his 19 appearances since joining the club in January, Spanish goalkeeper Dani Mallo played a significant role in Falkirk retaining their SPL status and he is a certain starter this afternoon. It is not so easy to predict who will line up immediately in front of him.

Hughes deployed a 5-4-1 formation against Rangers at Ibrox in January, but may stick with a more familiar back four today. Jackie McNamara, a three-time Scottish Cup winner with Celtic, should be at right-back with Tam Scobbie in the left-back role. A major decision for Hughes is who will partner captain Darren Barr in central defence. Steven Pressley is available after suspension and his experience may persuade the manager to recall him at the expense of Gerard Aafjes. Lee Bullen provides another option if Hughes does plump for a five-man rearguard.

• MIDFIELD

Arnau Riera's suspension had reduced the choices available to Hughes. Combative Irishman Patrick Cregg is likely to be joined by the hugely promising Scotland under-21 international Scott Arfield in central midfield as Falkirk look to subdue Rangers as a creative force and earn as much possession as they can. Burton O'Brien and Kevin McBride are the candidates to be deployed on the right, although both men could play if Hughes decides to go with a five-man midfield. Veteran former Rangers winger Neil McCann is likely to be recalled to the starting line-up on the left.

• ATTACK

Hughes has a triumvirate of English strikers to consider in assessing who is most likely to find a way beyond the miserly Rangers defence. Should he decide to deploy a lone front man, Steve Lovell may be the favoured candidate ahead of Michael Higdon and Carl Finnigan.

While that trio have generally been charged with goalscoring duties this season, Hughes does have a wild card in 20-year-old Mark Stewart. The highly promising young Scot is already a favourite of the Falkirk support and may have a role to play from the bench.





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  • Last Updated: 29 May 2009 10:14 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Rangers FC , Falkirk FC
 
1

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 00:12:43
On the bench or on the sofa, same old jibbering Susan Boyle lookalike.

2

Leatherhead,

R.U.I.N.S. RefsUndueInfluencesNeedsStopped !!!! 30/05/2009 01:52:00
JesterCoist,as well as the Rearrangerz heaving,screaming hordez knowz fine well that the cup is in the bag.

Just so long as the ref`s got this one measured too,then Falkirk,as Big Craig Levein told the whole of Scottish Football last season......Falkirk would be as well staying in their kips.


Sad but ohh so true.
Isn`t it.
3

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 01:56:54
bto

Wee exclusive here fur ye.


Jesters pickin the Rearrangerz team the morra,though this piece duznae tell you that.

Looks like Rearrangerz F.C. are not going to officially tell their horded fanz that that is the case.

"Walters" jaiketz nail is getting ever the more shoogly.

Isn`t it.
4

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 02:11:59
#2/3 - No it isn't and you know it. This is a very unhealthy obsession you have with Rangers, you shouldn't let your jealously and anger rule your life. It's not too late to change. Ponder for a while, don't rush.
5

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 02:33:19
With Rearrangerz in with a shout of "winning"a double then only one result will be permitted and allowed.

Put it like this,Barca could step in for poor Falkirk the morra and still be on the wrong end of a right royal refs humping.


Scottish Football Deserves Better.
6

Angoos,

Baku, Azerbaijan 30/05/2009 05:40:33
#5 Bawheaid

I see paranoia still reigns supreme amongst some of those people who can't take defeat with a bit of dignity.

Get a life ya sado !
7

The Kids Are Alright,

30/05/2009 06:51:28
Just got back from London in time for an Idee wee exclusive.

Hope Dailly gets a game to make it a medal double for him.

All the pressure on Rangers, but I hope the Royal blues and the Light(er) blues are the winners today's finals

Hold on.... which team will be wearing blue at Hampden, and how do they decide?
8

Backofthenet,

30/05/2009 08:37:54
There won't be a team in green anyway! ;0)

And I'm not referring to Hibs.

Seriously, it's quite possible Falkirlk will win - and it really wouldn't bother me. The Gers won the big one for the season last weekend.
9

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 10:03:09
"Walters" name is quite rightly denoted in inverted commas.
Way things are headed his role as manager will be going the same way,all the while extracting that extra bit of urine.

Headline the other day :


"Walter" Rearrangerz` "manager" makes it to "52".

Sad.
Isn`t it.
10

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 10:08:33


Not only that, if they are not careful Rearrangerz F.C. are in real danger of becoming the "Govan Inverted Comma F.C.".

Aren`t they.
11

Leatherhead,

S.W.A.L.L.Y. SirWantawayAbsenteeLandLord Yes !! 30/05/2009 10:19:15
Here`s the meaning of "inverted commas" as described in The Oxford English Dictionary.....;

Nudge nudge,wink wink.know what I mean,know what I mean.
Tap side of own nose with fore finger(then repeat).....say noahh moahh !


Yep that just about describes the "club" to T.



Still,it is sad.
Isn`t it.
12

big dunky,

30/05/2009 11:00:14
"leatherhead" "swally", "sirwantawayAbsenteeLandlord " "Yes"
You said it mucker !!
13

Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 11:14:04
No 5

Barcelona would wallop Rangers right off the park in the nicest possible way.

I agree Scotland deserves better. They could use real fitba players instead of bummed up wan fitted cluggers, for a start. Barcelona make it look easy, because real fitba players can dae that. Nae big wan fitted tumshies play for Barcelona, dae they?
14

The Kids Are Alright,

30/05/2009 11:33:44
Love Cup Final day.

Has that special atmosphere.


Ah yes, should be a bucket full of goals today.


I wonder if McCoist will lead the players on to the field.
15

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 11:45:13
#14 - My prediction for the day - Blue and white sacrfs with be waved in celebration at both cup finals.
16

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 11:45:33
14

ally susan boyle mccoist will NOT lead RFC out - just too fat and ugly for that stuff. No way will the SFA allow his manboobs to dominate the picture.
17

Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 11:45:34
Ah mean, whit happened tae all of Scotland's real fitba players?

There are some around at pro-level, but there is also a lot of dross. How does a one footed player who doesn't understand that it is easier and better to play as a team and pass the ball instead of trying to dribble and do it all yourself become a pro player in the first place? Although I suppose when half of them cannae pass the ball acurately then it is a difficult choice to make. That's one of the problems. Too many so called pro-players cannae pass the ba' without mishitting it straight to an opponent.

They also don't have a clue when it comes to how to get it back from a team who are brilliant at passing.

Even Man U looked hopeless against Barcelona and didn't have a clue how to deal with them.

Clue:- It helps if you man mark those who are likely to receive the ba' cos if you don't yer knacked.
18

Class On Grass,

Dugout 30/05/2009 11:52:24

I see Paul Sturrock has been mentioned for the Dons. Best man for the job, although McCoist would be a decent pick as well, if only to arouse the Englsh hordes´ ire at Ibrox.
Luggy for the Aberdeen job....
(Sorry to be off thread, but you know how it goes, OF fans. Not too off-thread, as Luggy was a great manager for Perth Saints, and McCoist a great player for them. OK the link is threadbare.). Go on the Bairns, make Scotland happy.

19

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 11:59:56
I just hope Falkirk get a few crunching tackles in early doors. If they can give Rangers a bit of the tough stuff then I can see Rangers applying all the cheating, moaning, hacking and intimidating tactics.

This will suit Falkirk if they rattle Rangers cage. If this happens and it stays 0-0 after 45 minutes, then I can see Falkirk running away with it as Rangers mental strength will dissolve and with it their physical strength too.

Rangers are there for the taking today, but Falkirk must get the tackles in early.

Once Rangers start losing the plot, I can see a flurry of cards and whining moaning faces everywhere.

It will be good to see Rangers end the season in disgrace once again.

20

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 12:02:28
If Falkirk win the cup, Hughes must be the real manager of the year.

Forget Smith. He was handed the title by Celtic, in effect we committed suicide in the second half of the season. But everyone (including Rangers) knows we are the better team.

Today Falkirk could win this game, Rangers are a poor side and are there for the taking.

Mon the bairns show Rangers up fo rwhat they really are. End their season in disgrace.
21

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 12:07:16
#19 - Anger/Bitterness, i thought a good nights sleep would have rejuvenated your mind and body, guess not.I'm sure your side kick Dun Aengus (or whatever) will be on soon to continue the double act.
22

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 12:08:46
Just be checking the history of the Scottish Football league and have found that Rangers were actually awarded league titles by default.

By today's rules they would not have won as many titles. How the SFL could have awarded them the titles is very dubious indeed. In today's world it just wouldn't happen - the other clubs wouldn't stand for it.

So Rangers claims of 52 titles are actually false. The fact is they were given some league titles by default, titles they actually lost. It's there in the history books.

23

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 12:10:09
21

What's wrong with saying I want Falkirk to beat Rangers?

What's wrong with explaining how Falkirk can beat Rangers?

You're the bitter and twisted one.

24

Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 12:10:48
20 Eh, crunching tackles went out with the Bay City Rollers.

Noo-a-days ye get sent aff fur crunching tackles. Yer better jist grabbin them bi the baws whilst in mid air and hope the ref disnae see it.

Ye could always try the old eye poke, of course, otherwise known as the facial hand grab with protruding fingers.
25

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 12:13:48
24

Dunno, Darren Barr might put Kenny Miller into orbit and get away with it today. Hard but fair that's all I am asking for. A bit of the old David Hay stuff. The stuff that made the Rangers tremble in their boots - players, managers and fans. A quaking mass when the quiet assassin made big Greig keech his keks.
26

Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 12:19:52
25,

Whit, d'ye mean takin the man as well as the ba' as long as ye get the ba first or ye make it look like ye got the ba first?

That's a fine art is it no?
27

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 12:24:08
26

Winning the ball in a fifty fifty.

Winning the ball the Bertie Auld way, the wee man was only 5ft 6 but he brought many a Rangers giant to his knees with his hard but fair tackles.

Imagine the fans of a team full of players like Forsyth, Greig, Jackson, McDonald etc...referring to wee Bertie (a real football player) as Dirty Bertie.

Bertie Auld, God Bless him - he was just too tough for the so called Ranjurs legends.

28

Glorious Hearts,

30/05/2009 12:30:24
#3 it's common knowledge that ally's been the man in charge for the cups in the last 2 seasons as the club see him as walter's successor.
I'm a jambo and even I know that!
29

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 12:31:00
#23 - Good morning to you. There is nothing wrong with your questions at all. The bitterness shows in the way you speak and put your points across. If Celtic were playing Falkirk today, as a gers fan, I would be behind Falkirk. I wouldn't be sayiny - "Mon the bairns show Celtic up for what they really are. End their season in disgrace". That's what I mean by birrerness.

Oh, I did some research last night and will post it soon, the figures are written down somewhere.
30

Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 12:33:34
Aye, A definite class act, he could also pass the ba perfectly which helped. I also thought it was Bobby Lennox who was too fast and them not being able to get the ba' aff Jimmy Johnstone and Billy McNeill winning maist ai the heiders and Ronnie Simpson being able to save jist aboot anything, and Tommy Gemmill's rocket shot and the telepathic understanding etc. We have gone backwards since then if you ask me, apart fae the fitness levels.
31

Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 12:35:29
No 30 was in answer to 27 BTW.
32

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 12:36:32
#28 - He posts here all day every day, his sole purpose is to get a reaction from Rangers fans, 99% ignore him now, even Celtic fans blank him.
33

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 12:46:03
#28 Glorious Hearts

Almost but not quite.


You see JesterCoist was forced to deny that he was in charge of ANY cup games as Rearrangerz faced their semi-final opposition last time out.

Up untill that point,Rearrangerz fanz seemed to be going along quite nicely with the belief that Fat-Al was in charge for cup games.
The laptopzloyal even went along with this notion.

You will notice that this journalist in his spiel above does not in any way attempt to detract from the idea that "Walter" is anything other than in full contol of todays game and team choice.

My wee exclusive for bto today is that that is NOT the case.

The fact that Rearrangerz are not officially admitting this will in itself be ringing alarm bellz in "Walters" direction.
34

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 12:49:32
#28 - If you reply you're in the 1%.
35

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 12:59:07
29

I can't tell you what to say if Celtic were in the final.

I can only say what I feel (it's not bitterness) I just want a team to expose Rangers weaknesses (of which I think there are many) so therefore I'd Falkirk to show Rangers up for what they are - a poor team in my opinion and the opinion of mostly everyone. This season we've been told both OF teams are the worst in their history. Rangers are certainly the worst champions I have ever seen. Every team I have witnessed being champions of Scotland would have gubbed this Rangers team.

Also ending in disgrace, why not? Isn't that what rivals want?

So I re-iterate without anger or bitterness - I sincerley hope Falkirk win and show Rangers up for what they are and end Rangers season in disgrace.

Try twisting that Charlie.

btw...do you know Rangers never actually won some of their 52 titles.
36

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Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 13:03:33
Well I just hope it's a decent game and Falkirk manage to hold their own and that it ends up 4-3 or something after extra time. It would be good for the game if Falkirk won but it's more likely to be 3 or 4-1 or nil for Rangers in all honesty, but you never know.
38

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:10:50
36

Do you know the history books show you never actually won some of your 52 titles?

Do you know that at least 4 yep FOUR teams have won more trophies than Rangers?

You can delude yourself but you can't delude the real football people.

btw the Child abuse references are just going to get you banned. So either wise up or the moderator will be on your case.
39

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 13:13:49
#36 Another Rangers Supporter


Your post at #36 embarrasses,humiliates and further degrades Rangers Football Club.
40

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30/05/2009 13:16:15
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30/05/2009 13:19:20
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30/05/2009 13:21:49
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30/05/2009 13:22:47
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Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:22:57
40

Wrong again. I am including all titles. (League was suspended during world war 2 and during world war one Celtic won more titles than Rangers.

No I am looking closely at Rangers 52 win and I found that some were won by default. Rangers actually LOST the titles but were awarded them in dubious circumstances (probably some masonic or orange influence somewhere).

The facts are the facts.

Penarol

Linfield

Barcelona

Sliema Wanderers

All have WON more than Rangers FC.

Accept the facts John and apologise in your own time.


Message to ALL Celtic fans and Non Rangers Fans, I take no pleasure or satisfaction in correcting Large John. It's not his fault he's ignorant and stupid. I would say I blame his schooling but I doubt he even went to school.
45

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:27:33
42

Yes John a good trophy haul but still less than;

Linfield

Barcelona

Penarol

Ok so your Glasgow cup wins mean you have now won more than Sliema Wanderers.

By the way do you know Rangers have to win 348 more SPL titles to equal Celtic's European triumph.

Never mind just 348 titles to win before come close.

Shame you'll not be around to ever see that.

46

Fitba Krazy,

30/05/2009 13:30:08
No 40. How many times have Rangers won the European Cup?

I think you are deluding yourself a bit here.

Major trophies are The European Cup (Champions? League)

The European Cup Winners Cup ( Now amalgamated with UEFA Cup) and The UEFA Cup.

Most Rangers fans are only interested in beating Celtic and vice versa, so their eyes are well off the REAL big trophies that are sadly, apparently out of reach of both. They did recently make the final of the UEFA but were beaten, closely in Celtic's case and Rangers played negative defensive stuff in their own half last season against decent teams. It's as if their bottle goes against quality teams instead of the exact opposite. This is the difference between REAL fitba players and posing pretenders. When players know they are not as good as the opposition they try and sit back and defend. This is a big mistake as decent, REAL players think/know they are as good as anybody.

That's how Celtic won the European Cup with a team of Scotsmen. They KNEW they were as good as anybody AND they were.
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30/05/2009 13:31:21
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Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:34:54
46

Geographically, Scotland is 1/400th of Europe. In otherwords you need 400 Scotlands to make one Europe.

That's why being European Champions = 400 Scottish titles.

I know I'm happier discussing Celtic's European glories with anyone in the world than talking to them about beating Falkirk, Motherwell and even Rangers.

Most real football people want to discuss the game in it's wider global context and are not interested in parochial tribal fueds.

For example are you really interested in discussing with a Spanish Real Madrid fan how many times they beat Mallorca? Or Espanol?

No? Me neither.

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30/05/2009 13:36:03
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Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:38:53
47

Now now John, no need to get abusive.

I have been giving you facts for days now but you just don't seem to be digesting them. Maybe some bile is blurring your mind.

Here's the facts again;

Rangers FC have won less than;

Barcelona

Linfield

Penarol

All three have won MORE than Rangers FC.

Your 52 titles are in question. The records show that you have won some of these titles by default.

Also 400 domestic titles = 1 Champions of Europe trophy. So you have 350 or so still to win...

Terrible thing when one exposes the truth isn't it.

51

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:40:11
Enjoy the final John and who knows you might actually win this one fair and square.

Mon ther bairns, end Rangers season in disgrace.
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30/05/2009 13:40:23
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Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:43:13
Falkirk! Big Game! LOL


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30/05/2009 13:44:02
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Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:44:58
John are you going or are staying around for more humiliation.

Three words for your final day.

Penarol

Linfield

Barcelona
56

The Kids Are Alright,

30/05/2009 13:47:16
McCoist will no doubt be sharing some of his own experiences with the team as the kick-off draws nearer.

Hughes will be on his cell phone making a few calls...
57

The Kids Are Alright,

30/05/2009 13:52:38
Imagine it's an attacking/mid-field role for BF today.

His pace will tell

58

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 13:54:57
56

Own experiences like what? Shacking up with Patsy Kensit? Getting blootered with Gazza and Goram?

57

BF pace? Now I know you are having a laugh? Or do you mean BF Pacemaker? All that booze isn't good for his heart ye ken.


59

The Kids Are Alright,

30/05/2009 14:00:03
#58

Tactics, and BF is the wild card.

Falkirk will not be expecting him to run from deep and that's where your early goals come from
60

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:02:22
Its funny to read the desperation coming from some tic posters, "end RFC's season in disgrace".

Ending the season as SPL champions will be no disgrace.

Beating a side 7-0 in the league only to lose to the same side a week later 1-0 in the cup,,that was a disgrace. As for what trophies clubs may have won in the past, who cares, this is the present and RFC are Scotlands footballing champions and as such have automatic entry in the CL group stages.

"Just a Celtic fan" what was your old user name on these threads? I cant keep up with all the name changes.
61

The Kids Are Alright,

30/05/2009 14:08:29
Dailly

Predictions for the games?


jet-lagged, so I just got a couple of wee Red Bulls in there.
62

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:10:17
60

SPL Champions by default (again)

I don't just want Falkirk to win, I want them to win playing football and for Rangers to resort to their usual fouling, hacking, cheating and whining.

Mon the bairns let's end Rangers season in disgrace.
63

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:12:16
61

Forget the red bulls, I'm crashing the beers.

Mon the bairns end Rangers season in disgrace.

111 and counting...sorry re-counting...hold on deducting...default wins don't count anymore.
64

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:13:14
Mon the Everton and Falkirk, no BNP winners of our domestic cups.

65

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:15:27
62

Default was it, 7 points behind twice, win the league by 4 points, an eleven point swing is winning by default in your mind.

Beating United by three at Tannadice something the tic could not do. Try giving credit to the side that wins the league, as we did when the tic won it last season.

And your previous user name was???
66

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:19:11
65

What previous name are you on about?

Default winners again. Celtic gifted it to you.

Do you know there are several titles in Rangers history that they have said they won when in fact they lost the titles but were awarded the titles by default. Did you know it's not 52 but less than 50 that were actually won.

The history books don't lie. It's there for all to see. Rangers were awarded trophies by default.
67

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:22:56
64

The last few days you have carried on a debate on trophies won comparing RFC to Linfield.

I would think that the domestic comparison would be, League titles won, FA cups won and League cups won they major trophies played for each season.

Linfield have 48 league titles
Linfield have 39 Irish FA cups
Linfield have 9 Irish league cups

RFC 52 league titles
RFC 32 Scottish Cups
RFC 25 League Cups

These are the major titles both sides play for in their domestic leagues.
68

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:25:02
66

Just curious if you have used another user name on the threads, names are changed on these threads for various reasons, only a simple question being asked.
69

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:26:59
66

By default do you mean there were joint league winners, if not could you explain.
70

Media at One,

30/05/2009 14:27:58
Daillyman

So what if Rangers are Scotland's most successful club, it doesnt hide the fact that the league is a joke -
Rangers are absolute rubbish and WS will be exposed in the CL for the fraud that he is -
71

The Kids Are Alright,

30/05/2009 14:30:37
Fool coverage of WGS's departure in the Sunday Mail tomorrow
72

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:30:52
70

True

400 Scottish Leagues titles need to be won to equal ONE Champions of Europe trophy.

But some Rangers titles weren't in fact won, but awarded by default.

73

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:31:55
Next Celtic manager Ottmar Hitzfeld with Paul Lambert as his assistant.
74

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:32:13
70

WS will be exposed in the CL, you mean just like the tic were exposed this season. Look pal I am under no illusions about the standard of play in the SPL and the lack of true quality at both OF sides, so please tell me something I dont know.
75

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:34:44
74

I'll tell you something you don't know.

Rangers NEVER won 52 league titles. Some were awarded by deafult.
76

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:35:09
*default
77

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:35:55
72

Again please explain the default point on winning league titles you make.

Celtic were the first British side to be crowned European Champions, no one can take that terrific achievement away.
78

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 14:44:02
Shopping over, settling down to see Rangers clinch the double.

Just a Celtic Fan.

You frequently post that Linfield, Penarol, Barcalona and Sliema Wanderers
have won more trophies than Rangers. Well, Rangers 110 trophies are major
trophies. (League Championships/National Cups/ National League
Cups/European competitions/Copa Libertadores). It was a quiet night at work
so I did some delving into your claims. My findings may surprise you, going
on the competitions I listed above (mickey mouse trophies don't count) the
figures are as follows -

Rangers - 110

Linfield - 99

Barcalona - 66

Penarol - 48 (+10 amateur titles prior to 1923 when their professional
league was introduced)

Sliema - 47.

Perhaps now you will refrain from continually posting inaccurate figures in
a vain attempt to win an argument you have clearly lost and highly
embarrassed yourself in the process. Those are the facts (Wikipedia is my
source if you wish to check.).


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79

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:44:11
77

Let me put it in simple terms for you. Here's case 1.

.........Pl...Won..Lost...Draw..GF...GA....PTS

Team A...18...13....2.....3.....61...21....29

Team B...18...13....2.....3.....58...25....29


Which team in your view is the Champions? Team A? or Team B?

80

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:45:32
75

If you dont wish to clarify your point of RFC winning a title by default, thats fine.

FYI, RFC shared the title with Dumbarton in 1891 after both sides finished level on points, a one game playoff resulted in the match being drawn 2-2, and both sides were named as joint league champions.

The only time there has been joint champions.

Now would you care to give your explanation on default title wins, or do you just enjoy p*ssing into the wind.
81

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:46:02
78

It is a FACT. That;

Penarol

Linfield

Barcelona

Have won MORE trophies than Rangers FC.

That is fact.

82

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:50:07
78 Charlie

JACF,

Wants to include Linfields wins in the City Cup, Gold Cup, Floodlight Cup, Ulster Cup, Antrim Shield, Tylor Cup, Blacnit Cup etc, let him enjoy himself.

We are the Champions!!!!!
83

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:51:46
80

Next it's Case 2

............Pl...Won..Lost...Draw..GF...GA....PTS

Team A... 30...19...6.....5.....93...51...43

Team B... 30...18....5.....7....80...39....43

Which team in your view is the Champions? Team A? or Team B?

More cases to follow after the game
84

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:56:36
79

Your league table figures may be correct, and under today's SFA and SPL constitution the top side would win on goal average.

But what did the rules read then, as far as 2 teams finishing joint top? Being there was a one match playoff I would say the goal average was not factored in at that time.

Rules have changed, you now get 3 points for a win instead of 2.

Dont worry cling to you stats it seems its the only thing you have got going for you.

No Cl yet,
No manager yet.

Keep the stats on the Gers coming if it makes you feel happy.

Away to watch a cup final.
85

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 14:59:09
84

should read goal difference, not goal average.
86

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 14:59:15
Davie Provan - what a clown commentator.

"I just wonder if this will be John Hughes last game in charge, he''ll be on the shortlist for Aberdeen and Hibs managers jobs, so who knows. But it's a discussion for another day"

So why bring it up Davie?

87

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 15:01:11
85

They'd win on goal difference and goals scored. So you agree Rangers won by default.

What about case 2?

88

Bosco Bhoy68,

30/05/2009 15:02:52
Look to be honest guys i dont really care who won what back in 18 something. For me as a tim and many sensible bears we only really care about who are the current champions and what are the prospects of winning the title in the upcoming season.

I have always had the craic with bears and when the particpants are informed and reasonable youll always find we can agree that RFC have the better domestic record and Celtic have the better record in Europe.
Facts not open to debate unless your a numptie.

For me RFC crawled over the line just in front of Celtic this year just in the same manner Celtic did it last year. Both teams have been playing dire football for a number of years now as both the atmosphere at both home grounds will testify to on far too many occassions.

For me i can only imagine the extra spring in the step of the plumber/van driver who woke up on Thursday morning after watching his home team club of Barca put on a display that everybody could applaud.

Too many of ye folk dont see the big picture.

BTW
Got to laugh at the bears who prattle on about 52/110 etc and then tell us what trophies you can include in the said list as like they are the sole judge and jury on the issue.
89

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 15:33:25
87

Read my entire reply in post 84.

Why do posters like you love to pick and choose small pieces of a post to suit your own agenda. In days past goal average decided the title when 2 sides were joint top, not goal difference, and there lies the crux.

Rules have changed in the modern game.

I am sure Bosco will understand the point I was trying to make earlier(post 84), you as I said previously have you own opinion, and forget about about trying to be objective.
90

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 15:34:47
So far Falkirk have dominated the game. Have given Rangers a football lesson.

Falkirk have made Rangers look like Cowdenbeath.

All they need to do is start scoring. They should already be two up.

91

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 15:36:52
The objective view is;

The worng team won the title on both those ocaasions and many others.

The title was won by default.

Any fair rational person can see that.
92

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 15:39:48
Has Lee McCulloch touched the ball yet?

Lafferty joke.

Boyd joke.

Bazza - chasing shadows.
93

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 15:45:36
More Boyd diving. Shocking cheating.
94

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 15:51:18
Very poor first half from Rangers.

Credit to Falkirk who have done well.
95

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 16:02:52
Boyd off and no wonder.
96

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 16:08:49
#88 - Bosco, you are the Simon Cowell of these threads. As Quentin Tarantino said of American Idol, the other judges going mad at a poor act, he said "It's ok there's Simon keeping it real".
97

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 16:08:57
As master stroke of a substitution by WS.

Novo. 1-0 the Gers.
98

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:12:28

Its good to see that Kenny Misser(RST description not mine) has learned his diving lessons shame from CheatzLaugherty.


Isn`t it.
99

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:13:31
#97

correction.

Fat-Al not "Walter".
100

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30/05/2009 16:14:29
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101

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:17:16


The blatantly biased commentary from BBC TV is shaming embarrassing and degrading the BBC.

Its a bit like some of the Rearrangerz fanz on these threads.

Occassionally you get those who embarrass,humiliate and degrade Rangers Football Club.
102

Just a Celtic Fan,

30/05/2009 16:18:16
101

Occasionally?
103

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 16:18:18
#97 - Daillyman - According to #98 it's a McCoist substitution as he's in full charge today. LOL

I am listening to comentary, can't watch the game here. I'm watching the english final and listening to the Gers.

Novo's goal sounded like a stunner.
104

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 16:19:13
101

You have been saying the same thing for years.

Solution is to turn the sound off.
105

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:23:43
Did you see the close up view of Rearrangerz team game plan as the BBC zoomed in on a close up ?

It looked as though they had it written down in one of they cheap jotters you get out of Woolworths.

Come to think of it "Walter" and Fat-Al probably went along and bought a batch of them in the Woolworths closing down Fire Sale.

It would also give them experience in how these Fire Sale thingies work.

Afterall,Rearrangerz have another one of those coming up in the next few weeks.
Maybe this time they`ll get shot of some their expensive duddz.
106

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 16:23:50
#100 - That's the bitterness i'm talking about.
107

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:27:57
Thats Falkirk flagged for two offsides in the last 5 minutes that weren`t.


They would have been as well staying in their kips,as Big Craig Levein reminded Scottish football goers whenever Rearrangerz are the opposition.
108

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 16:28:26
#101 - Switch to Radio Scotland, they have it just perfect.
109

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 16:33:06
Wow - Did anyone see Lampards strike?
110

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:38:01
#104

And whats wrong with that.

Its been going on for decades.
Not just for the years that I have been reminding you all of the bitter biasedness in the BBC TV crew towards and in favour of Rearrangerz.

Yes it is painful to be reminded of the BBC`s plain biasedness,particularly when you cannot dispute the facts.

e.g.
the ball had only just hit the back of Falkirks net and the BBC TV commentator says this....." thats the heart ripped out of Falkirk now alright".

Absolutely shocking BBC commentary against Falkirk.

Shocking.
111

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 16:39:31
105 Idee

What do you have to say about the duds at Parkhead who twice blew 7 point leads to lose the title by 4 points.

Or those duds that humped the Saints 7-0 in the league only to be knocked out by the same club in the cup a week later 1-0. Yes we both have our duds but ours won the SPL and maybe the cup today.
112

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 16:43:24
#110 - You're just like the two I encountered last night. Angry and Bitter. Calm down, football is a game, not life.
113

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 16:52:14
#111 - He never talks about Celtic, he knows nothing about them. Hie life revolves around running down Rangers, something else he knows nothing about.

Raise a glass to the double.

Cheers.
114

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:52:56
Dont forget...todays game is against Falkirk.

Champions Celtic are neither teams opposition.


This is plain biasedness shown by BBC TV entirely skewed in favour of Rearrangerz.


Even off the park.....Scottish Football Deserves Better.
115

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 16:56:20
Was Kris Boyd injured or was Novos change just TACTICAL GENIOUS.

I kid you not.

Thats what the BBC TV interviewer asked Fat-Al at track side.


Shocking and bitter,totally bitter biasedness shown by BBC TV.

Absolutely shocking.
116

Daillyman,

30/05/2009 17:01:47
114

As usual no response to post 111.

Idee RFC were very poor today and Falkirk tried their best they just have no finishing up front.

We have won another double, and this season comes to a close.

Well done to the Hearts, Dons, and Falkirk best of luck in the Europa Cup, and to Celtic all was not lost you won the league cup and have made it into the CL qualifiers, best of luck and hope to see you in the CL group stages.

As for RFC, SPL winners and Scottish Cup winners thanks for a good finish to the season.

We are the Champions.
117

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 17:09:10
#116 Brian

correction*

"champions".
118

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 17:13:50
#117 - "champions". EXACTLY
119

Leatherhead,

30/05/2009 17:22:46
#118

Hey you yatrumpet that yeare.

You`re on here tellin all other Rearrangerz fanz not to respond to my posts and here you are shadowing my comments.

120

Charlie66,

30/05/2009 18:36:46
Silence is Golden!
121

Ajax MacKindling,

30/05/2009 19:50:24
Champions Rangers win the double, again.

Not a great display, but who could argue with that goal? There's only one Nacho Novo after all.

Why do I get the feeling that "Just a Celtc Fan" is busy tonight recalculating every league title since the 1800s applying todays 3 points for a win rule to them all?

Just a Celtc Fan, the new Statto.
122

Dabulamanzi,

30/05/2009 20:00:18
"Just a celtic fan" - how appropriate. At least you recognise your limitations and, sadly, your aspirations,
123

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 01:10:02
Really missed the comments of the regular tic posters, even Idee, such as Bosco, Tim Malloy, DV, Pax the numpty, Just a tic supporter, AJ the dolly lover from Fife, etc, etc etc, etc,

Stand up for the Champions.

ps. To the tic supporters who have been forced to change their user names because of posts you have made, could you please let us regulars know who we are talking with as some of us have had the same user name for years.
124

Daillyman,

31/05/2009 01:21:27
Looking for the Robson story, that managers would be fighting to get the tic job.

Can anyone tell me where that thread has gone?
125

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31/05/2009 15:45:18
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126

Dabulamanzi,

31/05/2009 17:02:22
Just a celtic fan aka John, Pax etc. Thanks for the show today. There is nothing better than seeing a bitter and twisted bigoted celtc fan hurting. You and patrick are priceless. Scotland's real shame.

 

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