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Angry streak puts Strokosch in the mood



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Published Date: 11 June 2008
ALASDAIR Strokosch can have a menacing air about him, but it was turning blue on Saturday night when he let rip at his Scotland team-mates after their first Test defeat to Argentina.
He was altogether more calm and relaxed yesterday, as he chatted with the media, but the flanker, who won only his fifth cap at the weekend, admitted he still felt Scotland needed to become more angry if they were to achieve that historic first Test
victory in Argentina on Saturday in Buenos Aires.

He was, understandably, keen to keep to himself exactly what he said to the players in the heated Rosario dressing-room exchange at the weekend, but he admitted: "I was angry – the feeling of disappointment when we came off changed to anger I think.

"I'm quite an angry guy a lot of the time. I've not got many caps, but I felt it after we played Italy and it's happened here again. I get sick of losing against teams I know we're better than.

"I don't usually say all that much to be honest, but I felt I had to get it off my chest. What I said was just for the players."

The Paisley-born Strokosch always had a hard edge, from his days as a young Scottish karate internationalist to his development at East Kilbride then Boroughmuir and Edinburgh. Channelling it into the finer points of forward play has consumed many of his coaches, but in quitting the Scottish capital and frustrated attempts at regular game-time, and gone against the advice of the national coach, his innate, headstrong desire was clear as he broke the mould and created a new reputation for himself at Gloucester.

Exciting a taskmaster such as Dean Ryan, the head coach at Kingsholm and former England No8/blindside, is not a straightforward affair, but Strokosch did so in the months when Scotland were competing in the Rugby World Cup and he was just finding his feet in England. He went on to win wider respect in being voted player of the month in the Guinness Premiership at the turn of the year and duly was handed a new two-year contract by Ryan.

His route to the Scotland No6 jersey appeared blocked by Jason White, not only Hadden's first-choice as blindside flanker, but also his preferred captain. He had a brief run off the bench against Australia in 2006, but opportunity beckoned in February when White encountered complications in his recovery from a serious knee injury and Strokosch grasped it with a fine first starting appearance against Ireland.

Bigger, stronger and more confident, he agrees that Gloucester has been good for him, but he also feels that it has helped his perspective on the Scotland team and the levels it should be aspiring towards.

"Possibly moving away and being in a different environment means that when I see the Scotland squad from the outside I see the potential that is there and how good they could be. I think that's what got to me more than anything (in England].

"We are underperforming; we're not fulfilling our potential. If we did that I think we could be a top-four or five nation in world rugby. Are we going to move from being a team that wins a couple of games a year to one that is consistently good? We've got to make that choice now."

The 25-year-old flanker is no fresh-faced, naive kid. And he feels similarly to Mike Blair, the skipper, who told The Scotsman recently that individuals had to step forward and contribute more if Scotland were to pull themselves out of the current slump. He agreed that the Scottish pack did not match the aggression of the Pumas on Saturday, and feels awareness of that is filtering through a disappointed squad.

He clearly believes that they have it within their grasp to turn around the first Test display, match the Pumas and strike that first Test win on this soil.

He said: "Collectively, we all wait for (Allister] Hogg or 'Blade' (Mike Blair] to create something sometimes, or for Mossy (Chris Paterson] to kick a goal, but everyone should be trying to break the game. The guy who lifts in the lineout or clears the ruck is just as important as the guy who scores the try, but when it comes to doing your little element you have to do that perfectly, which we're not doing.

"In the set-piece we were good on Saturday, but in the contact area, the rucks and mauls, I don't think we were. We need to find an aggression as well. You've got to want to hurt someone when you tackle them or when you clear a ruck – you've got to want to be dominant.

"It's not the same for everyone. I use anger, but it might be a different emotion that triggers it for others. It takes a while to find what it is that is going to switch it on – desire, anger, anything."

Underlining his belief that this week's result, and Scotland's bid to move up the IRB rankings, now has little to do with the coaches, he added: "It comes down to us.

The coaches can only guide you so far. We've got to take responsibility for what happens and we've got to fix it – whatever it takes to get you going."

YESTERDAY'S RESULTS

IRB Junior World Championship: Argentina L, Tonga L; New Zealand L, Ireland L; Samoa 20, USA 6; South Africa L, Scotland L; England 60, Canada 18; Australia L, Fiji L; France 32, Italy 14; Wales L, Japan L.

TONIGHT'S FIXTURE

Churchill Cup: Argentina v Scotland A (Kingston, Ontario; 9.30pmBST).





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  • Last Updated: 11 June 2008 8:57 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

W.Robertson,

11/06/2008 07:47:24
Spot on!
2

Scotish Exile,

11/06/2008 07:58:43
well done stroker, far too many scot's are in the comfort zone and winning is not priority number one. we need 15 guys with strokers attitude, not the lazy over rated prima donna's that we have at the moment.
Ps, get rid of captain frank haddock now!
3

Mcsense,

11/06/2008 08:05:48
Good on him, its about time somebody grew a pair and spoke up, obviously the team performance is more important to him than his own popularity in the dressing room. As an old retired back rower there is nothing more frustrating than hurtling around the field knocking people over and rescuing ball that the glory boys in the back line have seen fit to turn over.
I hope that this has the desired effect and not just the players take proper stock but that Frankie boy was listening but I fear that even if he was, he does not have the respect of the players to make the difference.
4

Red Dykes,

Highland 11/06/2008 08:19:50
Even Strokosh would find it hard to fire up a team that has to cope with Dan Parks continued selection and Hadden's inept attempts at self-preservation.
5

daffy_b,

11/06/2008 09:07:23
Get tore right in Strokes!

You're absolutely right. Too many prancing primadonnas.

I've thought for a few years now (and performances are proving it) that Scotland are too "nice".

They need to get right in there and mix it up with the other teams.

They get "bullied" in the loose-play and are not street wise enough to get away with some shennanigans that other teams get away with.

It's one thing to play "Nice and Honest" and be seen as gentelemen, but it's quite another when you're sliding down the world rankings and are seen as "a good warm up game" type of team because you're "nice".

More aggression, and more fire will win us more games.
6

Lederblix,

11/06/2008 09:14:30
The uncompromising attitude of Jason White and Nathan Hines is sadly missed.
7

Venachar,

11/06/2008 09:27:58
Two back row forwards from saturday have now been quoted as saying "we should be more agressive". Perhaps Strokes and Hoggy are two of the more honest operators. Battleplans go out the window when the fighting starts. Same on the pitch you can plan all you want before the match but when the other team don't play the way you expect what do you do?
Use your head and adapt!
Find out if Mr Rolland is going to ref the game the same way as Mr Lewis last week and take the game to Argentina.
8

Sir Saltire,

11/06/2008 11:14:21
daffy - they can still be "nice and honest", just play extremely hard but fair...and leave "nice" 'til after the game! Like Strokes.

Lederblix - Hines for sure, but based on the form of the past year, are we missing Jason White that much? Looking at our plethora of options in the back row, it's the best combination of Strokes, Hogg, Barclay, Rennie, and Taylor that's the conundrum for me.

There is belief oozing from Strokes in these comments, which I hope will rub off on some of the other guys.
9

Sir Saltire,

11/06/2008 11:28:14
By the way, we need to win by 15 points to get back into the top eight in the world, and thereby avoid losing our world cup seeding. I can't see us doing that without scoring some tries.
10

leemagee,

Perth 11/06/2008 11:49:23
I am bored of players going on about "cut out errors" or "score more tries" or "it's the small things that decide winners in international rugby".
Having just read the Strokosch article I totally agree with him:
Scotland play nice, rule book rugby...the best teams in the world play arrogant, angry, I'm better than you rugby.
Every time the NZ backrow get the ball, they smash into their opposite man like they want to run over them and hurt them, the same with the SA backrow. When Scotland run at the opposition it looks like a rehersed move with no committment to it.
Strokosch is the nearest we have to it, along with the Lamont brothers, you know, they run at you like they fully intend to smash through you and keep going.
This angry, self belief and determination is one of the many attributes that made Keith Wood, John Jeffrey, Finlay Calder, Laurence Dallaglio, Totai Kefu, Sean Fitzpatrick and a host of others great in their day. It's also the reason Jerry Collins, Rodney So'oialo, Schalk Burger, Richie McCaw, Tote Tiquiri, Brian O'Driscoll, and a host of others are so good today.
Unfortunately it is the one thing you can't coach on a training paddock...it's the only thing you need to find within yourself. Until Scotland start playing like they believe they are better and stronger than the opposition, they will never win these games.
Hadden has instilled the notion that "you are all good players and have the right to be here", whilst the Welsh coaching team teach the "you are great players but front up, play well, smash them in the tackle, hurt them when you have to, and if you don't play well, you're gone!!!"
I wonder which method reaps the best reward!!
11

MM,

Edinburgh 11/06/2008 12:02:03
#12 Yeah, depressing isn't it! We also need to rely on Ireland losing to Australia. Likely, but not a foregone conclusion.

The we need to hope that Ireland have a poor set of results in the Autumn Internationals. The have The ABs, Canada and Argentina.

All in all, i'm not hopeful.
12

RDW,

11/06/2008 13:27:03
I think we can guess what he said to the players in the dressing room after the game......and glad I wasn't there! And I am definately glad he is on our team - definately a player you don't want to play against! come on Scotland - show Argentina exactly what you can do and take no sh*t!
13

Mcsense,

11/06/2008 13:29:59
As it appears we will not be able to watch the game, again, wouldn't it be nice to hear everyone came on to the field fired up, knuckles dragging and foaming at the mouth. Sadly I can think of one stand off for whom that would be a streach too far Controlled agression, I know its probably not legal any more but what I'd give for some good old fashioned Scottish rucking you know the stuff where as you step ever so lightly on the opposition lying on the wrong side you say through the yelps " Next time stay on your own f*!#ing side" and scamper off towards their line. Ah sweet dreams.
14

SRU PRESIDENT, COMMITTEE & ASSORTED BUFTIES,

Head to toe in (free) SRU gear, down Argentina way 11/06/2008 16:38:55
Heck - there's that boring old grey "Lard" pillock from Kiddycatcrap chancing his totally ignorant elderly arm again! Please go away, oh ignorant bumbling tired old Lard of Kittybrewster.... You have been and gone. Hopefully, without trace.
15

B.McGeek,

11/06/2008 17:27:33
Well done, about time, players speaking up and being counted for. Not only does the scottish teams give in too easily & graciously accept defeat (excluding Strokosch), the sru committee continue to enjoy the jollies of their station, apprenently there is a 3 day 'debrief' in Argentina after the last test, obviously funded by sru & their debt! When is Mr Mackie going to wake up to the realisation that these jollies including International Club Games' etc etc are a waste of money when the junior & club set ups are floundering.

What is happening to the academy and the progression of players through that channel, did Strokosch come through this set up?? what happens to those players not performing, and those with potential that have not been supported by the national set up?? There needs to be more open accountability to what is happening to these players and their contracts & wages, and for that matter the coaches should be accountable & perform also - if not like any business if you don't measure up your OUT!
16

B.McGeek,

11/06/2008 17:32:34
#13 good comments spot on, we also should remember the Welsh RU are not afraid to sack their coaching staff as well.....so unlike the Scottish, both players and coaches know they are accountable and must perform.
17

La barrière de Senlis,

France 11/06/2008 19:47:34
Fed up about the world ranking.
The problem is the way Scotland play the game.
To have a real good support in Scotland, the team needs to play with passion (of course) and ATTACK and score TRIES!!!

I would prefer to see the Scottish team losing by a conversion, than 2,3,4... tries to zerol.

There is no point to think about the rankings, win and have a narrow game versus a team half amateur.
Because it does not go forward, and wait for a 1/4 finale World Cup.
This time is finished and if Scotland can't step up the level of their game they will have the same problem than their under 20 side at the next WC!

I still support Scotland, for ever
18

W U Merchant,

Aberdeen 11/06/2008 19:56:25
Strokosch? Big hat, nae cattle. Useless.
19

JockSmith,

12/06/2008 13:04:05
Just for No 23

Nae team in the Premier one and may be no good golf course either.

 

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