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Burley insists call-offs are genuine as Old Firm five miss Scotland duty



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Published Date: 25 March 2008
FIVE Old Firm players have withdrawn from the Scotland squad for tomorrow night's Hampden friendly against Croatia, but national team manager George Burley has declared himself at ease with the situation after the authenticity of each absentee's injury was verified by his own medical staff.
A total of seven players withdrew from Burley's squad yesterday, including the Rangers quartet of Barry Ferguson, Christian Dailly, Lee McCulloch and Allan McGregor who cited ankle, toe, thigh and knee complaints respectively.

They were joined by Barry Robson of Celtic who reported a knee injury. Birmingham striker James McFadden had already pulled out to undergo surgery on a knee problem and the list was completed by Stephen Pearson of Derby County who has a hernia complaint.

With the Old Firm meeting at Ibrox at lunchtime on Saturday in a crucial SPL fixture, suspicions were inevitably raised by the almost mass withdrawal of the Rangers players with only Kris Boyd remaining of those originally named by Burley.

The manager, however, said he has no concerns about the circumstances surrounding the call-offs after almost all of those concerned were examined by the SFA medical staff of doctors Stewart Hillis and John MacLean and physiotherapists Phillip Yeats and Michael McBride.

"There is no hiding the fact we have got injuries and they are genuine injuries," said Burley. "These call-offs are not just because there is an Old Firm game coming up.

"I want to play my strongest team, but if your medics say a player has an injury, then you can't play him. All of the players are certainly very keen to play. Croatia are great opposition and they all want to play for their country. But there is no way I'm going to play anyone who is injured.

"It's not a case of these players not being available because it's a friendly. If they were fit, they would be in my plans. But all seven players are injured. It's black and white. I wouldn't try and force someone who is not 100 per cent fit to play.

"We got our medics to look at them and one or two have nasty little injuries. The only one who didn't report for duty was Christian Dailly. He said he would come, but he has a cracked bone in his toe, so he's not going to be training in that condition. Sometimes you can have a pain-killing injection to play, and that's something Rangers will probably look at for the weekend.

"The players themselves are desperate to play. Barry Robson, for example, got a whack after 10 minutes of Celtic's game on Sunday, but was desperate to play for Scotland. But his knee has swollen up."

According to Rangers' website yesterday, it is expected Ferguson, Dailly and McCulloch will all be fit to face Celtic on Saturday, but Burley does not expect all of his injured players to recover by then.

"I would say maybe one or two might have a chance of playing for their clubs at the weekend," he said, "but quite a number don't."

There is also a doubt over Manchester United midfielder Darren Fletcher who was sent home by his club on Sunday after reporting for duty with a virus ahead of the game against Liverpool.

Gavin Rae, the Cardiff City midfielder, was the only replacement called up by Burley yesterday to leave him with a 20-strong group of players at his disposal.

Celtic captain Stephen McManus will lead the side in the absence of regular skipper Ferguson. The central defender is one of four Celtic players remaining in the squad, along with Gary Caldwell, Scott Brown and Paul Hartley, but Burley says he has reached no agreement to limit their involvement against Croatia ahead of the Old Firm match. "No deals have been made," he said. "Gordon Strachan and Walter Smith were very helpful. They have a big game on Saturday, but I think they appreciate the international scene is very important and that it's my job to pick my strongest team.

"We will assess it as the game goes on. My first thoughts are to pick my best team that is available. There are one or two players, as the game goes on, I might have a look at in terms of substitutions.

"I spoke to Stephen McManus today and he is going to be captain. He has had a tremendous season and is a great character. I had no hesitation in giving him the captaincy."




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Backofthenet,

25/03/2008 00:04:30
I sympathise with George Burley but call-offs are a perennial part of international football. At least it will make it more likely that young players like Berra and Fletcher get a run-out.
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25/03/2008 00:58:35
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Raskolnikov,

25/03/2008 01:25:07
Kally 12 - Is David Weir a member, or do you have to be under 50 to join?
4

ruglenn,

Hampden 25/03/2008 01:39:31
"These call-offs are not just because there is an Old Firm game coming up". George, this is pishspeak! Our country needs a manager with much greater gravitas and authority than you have exhibited in this, your first, challenge. How many of the Ibrox four do you think will miss Saturday's match?
I know you're from Ayrshire, but that's no excuse for gullibility!
5

ruglenn,

Hampden 25/03/2008 02:30:06
#11
I assume from the incisiveness of your contributions to the debate that you are also from Ayrshire.
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Dundee Pie,

Canada 25/03/2008 03:38:00
Well they all get three games to get on the pitch and demo for Burley. I can't blame him if he adopts a three strikes your out policy.
7

Jon Bon Jovi,

25/03/2008 04:11:52


the 4 rangers players shouldnt be in the starting 11 anyway so i dont what the fuss is about.....
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Dons & Crows R AFC,

South Australia 25/03/2008 06:04:24
#21: CFC's Not the first Scots based club to withdraw Oz internationals from WC qualifiers ala RFC / Vidmar et al!

The Diet English throwing stones at the Diet Irish.
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25/03/2008 06:38:43
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Dons & Crows R AFC,

South Australia 25/03/2008 06:43:57
Mabawza: Which Scots based clubs want to be in the EPL?? Hint Not Motherwell or Partick Thisle.
Should that be Diet Royal Cola?
Enough said?
11

tomislav,

Serbian Loyal RSC 25/03/2008 06:51:00
Dont know about all of these comments, I just hope Scotland humps the Croats
12

wetcoast,

25/03/2008 07:04:34
#24 Rankgers
You have just exposed yourself as the Bigot that sent the e-mail to BBC regarding Rangers fans as half human and half animal hybrid, too bad that the BBC will have to pay for your transgressions although they have already apologised for airing your e-mail. Hope that they hunt you down and it costs you everything for your rancid comments. Almost the worst comments that I have read on these threads and that takes a lot of beating.
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25/03/2008 07:06:28
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wetcoast,

25/03/2008 07:08:29
Correction on last post, it should have been Rankers not Rankgers, post #24
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25/03/2008 07:11:55
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Media 1,

cape town 25/03/2008 07:12:43
Celtic fans would not be suspicious if their team and their manager had them in a winning position. The problem here, is that Celtic are in a dire position in all domestic fronts and it hurts.
Celtic MUST win on Saturday, 3 points is all they can leave with or its over. A Rangers win will deliver the cup to Ibrox early!
Time will tell!
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25/03/2008 07:13:06
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Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 07:15:34
And just a wee follow up. I will not take supporters of what is an Irish Club (what else can you be with the flags that you fly) commenting on the Scottish National team. You are more interested in how McGeady plays for his country (mind you what country is that?) than you are about Scotland. Oh and just for the record Celtic pulled Scott MacDonald out of the Australian team in case the wee man got travel sick. They should'nt have bothered as he will be sick as anything at the weekend.

Do you know something? We really are the people.
19

Media 1,

cape town 25/03/2008 07:17:20
What do the bookies have the game at on Saturday?
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Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 07:18:22
3.1 on that Celtic don't turn up again.....
21

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25/03/2008 07:22:14
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wetcoast,

25/03/2008 07:23:11
Regarding the posting # 34, why does the administrator of this site allow this as BBC are under the gun for allowing this to be aired??? I am not asking for it to be removed as it just shows the intelligence of the poster but I thought that the Scotsman had better quality than this. Sorry.
23

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 07:30:14
43. Totally agree. It is good to let others see what a pathetic creature Rankers actually is.. I am told that there are many decent Celtic supporters and I am sure that they would not back his comments. It just surprises me that he gets access to a computer in between his slopping out duties.

Trust me he is running scared for the weekend. You can almost see the sweat on his hair encrusted knuckles shining through the bars of Barlinnie.

Do you know something? We really are the people.
24

Keyboard supporter,

25/03/2008 07:36:44
#43 - Wouldn't get worked up about the likes of rankers matey - if you give the terminally thick enough rope they always hang theirselves soon enough. Anyone can see the way in which the threads have degenerated over the last few weeks as "the GFITW by the way" have either evaporated like dhims at bathtime or became particularly more embittered like aforementioned "Rankers" - but of course its nothing to do with their teams present predicament. I'll wager that were they to win on Saturday they'd melt the Scotsmans' server in their desperation to return!.
As for the rather pleasant rankers I personally find it far more enjoyable to read his embittered and semiliterate posts and bask in the hurt you know he's feeling - aneurysm anyone?. His "I am no bigot...I just despise what you and yours stand for" is particularly sanctimonious, pious gash - stereotypically mope like.

Dhims - they just can't help it
25

wetcoast,

25/03/2008 07:56:26
44 & 45 Thanks for your support, but now it is time for me to go to bed and I will see the response when I wake up tomorrow. Don't post on here too often but I do read the threads, a victory on Saturday and this will be an enjoyable place to come back to.
26

FAN OF GERRY,

GLASGOW 25/03/2008 08:04:04
#31 Once again I have to educate you. Motherwell,and nobody else, vetoed Aberdeens request for a postponement. Please get your facts correct or dont bother posting.
#29 Once again, this is getting tedious, 2 celtic players please read 2 (two) celtic players.
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Phil C,

25/03/2008 08:09:43
There should be a new rule that anyone who calls off from international duty should not be able to play for their clubs for the next two games. Then I think we'd see less of the perennial Rantic call-offs. The wee lambs at Rangers seem to be particularly prone to these 'injuries', which clear up the next day!

"Doctor I've got a sore ankle, toe, thigh or knee" I hear them say. "OK, have the day off" say the SFA doctors! The good thing is that it keeps Neddy Boy off the park!
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idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get"Ready"And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 08:14:09
#43 #44 #45 #46

You say that...younarrapeepel inat no...

Thats absolutely 100% correct.

Younarrapeepel inat no,who ar no gettin a chance tae get an away ticket for Ragz` euro game in Portugal.

Not a snifter.
No chance.
No choice.

You`re no gettin wan....UNLESS....unless.

Sir Wantaway,he that wants shot of the entire club if at all possible...deems you to be worthy to be offered the chance if HE so decides.

"Ready" ?

Aye get ready and beg....G.R.A.B. !!!

BAW haw naw hahahaha...thats a cracker...woof woof,beg....thhrrrppp...KAK..

Does Sir Wantaway know no end to his powers at Ragz and is their no end to the extent that which he is prepared to flaunt HIS powers in the faces of the Ibrox heaving,still believing hordes.

Humiliating in the extreme.
Isn`t it.
29

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 08:20:38
#49

And all this coming from the man who lambasted Rangers players yesterday for pulling out of Scotland's, "World Cup Qualifier" with Croatia.
As usual the rants of a rabid, hate-filled liar, who can't see the truth when it's printed in front of him.
Run back to mammy.
30

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 08:23:44
Burley and his own medical advisers had a choice ...have a major confrontation with Rangers before his first match as Scotland manager or turn a blind eye.

I don't criticise Burley at all for bottling it...I think any of us would do the same in his position...who wants to kick off their international management career by getting ripped into Scotland's establishment team ? It's the wise thing to do for Burley...it's only a fiendly and not worth getting into a fight about it.

Still, Walter's cynicism and that of the players will not go unnoticed, and in future times , they each might come to regret their conduct in this matter.

Do you think all those asswipes all over Scotland will now get off McGeady's back for being unpatriotic....not a chance !
31

Keyboard supporter,

25/03/2008 08:25:11
#49 - dull as ever & completely incoherent - even allowing for the fact who posted it
32

Keyboard supporter,

25/03/2008 08:26:45
#51 - Why is McGeady being unpatriotic as yourselves and others always lecture us on his irish credentials ?
33

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

Broughshane, Norn Iron 25/03/2008 08:30:59
#51 Pat

But Robson has pulled out as well, and Skippy misses a game for the Aussies. Isn't it more of a case of each team not risking their players ahead of the big gane on sat?
C'mon !! For me, regardless of what team involbed, it makes perfect sense to withdraw players from a meaningless friendly game, when you've a match of Sat's importance.
And as for McGeady, he's entitled to play for whoever he chooses, but even you must be amazed at his choice. who has been giving the lad advice? If a Gers player opted to play for another country, other than that of his birth, you'd have sh1t screenings !!!
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25/03/2008 08:39:13
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 08:39:34
53

Because the antagonism that follows McGeady around Scottish football has got nothing to do with his decision to play for another country, and everything to do with WHICH country aggravated by the fact that he is a Catholic and plays for Celtic.
36

Keyboard supporter,

25/03/2008 08:41:06
#55 - Yeah true he's just full of the craic and having a laff - face facts he's pondlife!
37

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 08:46:28
#57

Which makes his decision all the more baffling! He knew he would get criticism for it, you knew, maybe even criticised him under your breath, so now that he is getting criticised, why all the fuss? The Celtic/irish tradtion is what the club was founded on, for Irish catholics in Scotland, in simple facts. Fine, that's what happened. Those links will always be there, but it is unprecedented for a young emerging talent (as he was then) to announce he wants to play for a national team, NOT of his birth. Watching from over here, it's Scotland's loss, so scots supporters, yourself included I presume, must be gutted at his decision?
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 08:48:55
60

Not at all. I believe in freedom of choice.
39

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 08:49:56
wee narra peepel don't see it that way.
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25/03/2008 08:50:01
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Keyboard supporter,

25/03/2008 08:50:37
#57 - Excellent - you confirmed to me what i wanted to hear - he's Scots and about as Irish as a kebab! At least we won't hear the likes of yourself reiterating his credentials as Irish (He's a plastic paddy like most others at the San Giro).
He's not routinely abused (rightly so IMO) for his catholocism (Although there will be some who do this - similar to the likes of Lovenpants when playing for Denmark being roundly chastised at Landsdowne road in the past) but for his misguided choice of country to represent when he could be adding something different to the Scotland team - i'm not talking about his scandalous choice of hairdo - he looks like a pikey ffs.
42

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 08:53:11
#62

Now, now Pat. Wee narrow people? I was just dabbling in a bit of honest chit-chat about footballing issues. Talking about Celtic and McGeady's choice is not being narrow minded. Surprised at you.
43

Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 09:00:26
When in trouble lets bring up the Aiden MC Geady Irish issue. Why is it that none of the Rangers fans can actually come on here and admit that WS is pulling out his players. It is a stupid friendly at the most ridiculous time in what is an extremely close SPL. Both Celtic and Rangers should have told the SFA none of our players will be made available. This of course would have its own problems as we would have if the SFA had the b@llocks to invoke the FIFA clauses etc.

Aiden Mc Geady chose to play for Ireland let it go. Don't hear any Rangers fans here slagging Richard Gough for choosing Scotland, not South Africa where he was born and raised.

In my opinion international football comes way behind the interests of Celtic, (Scotland or Ireland)
44

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 09:01:11
#64

Maybe a support which CAN be multi-cultural, and all embracing of other traditions ? ;)
45

Swordsman,

Dublin 25/03/2008 09:01:33
#65 "you confirmed to me what i wanted to hear - he's Scots and about as Irish as a kebab!"

Have you never heard of that great Irish institution called "Abrakebabra"?...after a few pints of the black stuff,its yer only man!

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Swordsman,

Dublin 25/03/2008 09:07:52
Think Gough was born in Sweden but I take your point...No change to be got from going down this road...
I'm sure that both sets of fans would rather see full strenghth squads come saturday.
As a Hoops fan I remember another friendly that took 3 years out of the career of John Kennedy....God forbid that happen tomorrow ..
47

brownlie,

glasgow 25/03/2008 09:07:54
I don't know about the Ranger's players but I do know that Barry Robson would walk over broken glass to play for Scotland.
PS I'm not a Celtic supporter.
48

John H,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 09:08:01
It's time almost all the posters found a way out of the Glasgow goldfish bowl don't you think.
Pathetic the lot of them.
Scotland play better without them anyway. That has been proved in the past and will be again.
49

qohldr,

25/03/2008 09:09:09
If the players that take to the field put in a good performance this week can we presume they will be picked to play in the next game or will they be dropped like hot stones to make way for these players that have pulled out.
50

brownlie,

glasgow 25/03/2008 09:09:58
37 Media
There is no cup at stake on Saturday - it is an SPL game.
Are you the Media that posts on other sites in defence of the Union?
51

LyonHearts,

le teil 25/03/2008 09:10:55
Just goes to show that the national side is not nearly as important as it used to be say back in the 70's and 80's whan Dalglish, Bremner & co were leading the line!

I think if Berra gets a game it will be too early for him - but it looks possible with all the withdrawls! Good luck to Scotland anyway!
52

Keyboard supporter,

25/03/2008 09:19:18
#67 - it was your own side that brought McGeady up - he'd have been a most welcome addition (even with that barnet!)to the Scotland side and alongside Ferguson, Brown & Fletcher would have given us a temendous midfield quartet. THE predominant reason for most peoples dislike of the little squit.

#69 - some humour from the celtic end (most welcome)- in short supply at the moment - we have to put up with idee at his ranting best (or worst) these days.

Re the call offs - it was hardly a surprise now was it coming just before perhaps the pivotal domestic game of the season. As a proud Scot myself (yes really!) i'd have been very disapointed if it had been the case for an international other than a freindly but i'd very much doubt that would have been the case.
53

Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 09:19:50
70 Agree. Can't wait to get this midweek sideshow out of the way and down to the real business on Saturday. I still think Celtic will win (then I always do) however a draw is not a bad result for us with 2 home games against them still to come.
54

Swordsman,

Dublin 25/03/2008 09:22:31
Any one know if the game is on cooncil telly tomorrow...?
55

Indigo Nightlight,

25/03/2008 09:24:49
I blame the SPL fixture arranger for what it's worth. They SPL know fine well when the International weekends aer in the calendar, and they seem magically drawn to placing OF games either immediately before or after them. The OF game after the Georgia game in October arguably cost us a place at the European championships as half the team pulled out, only to make miraculous recoveries by the Saturday.

Club football is the bread and butter for the players, but a bit of commonsense when planning the fixture list wouldn't go amiss.
56

Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 09:28:32
Hope Scotland get a result on Wednesday against this team. Prove to the nation that Captain Fantastic is not required.

Is there a statistic for the number of caps BF has got and how many he could have had he not pulled out of nearly every friendly played by Scotland?
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idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 09:40:43
I reckon Burley will regret not standing up to Walter The Assaulter and that as a result will have an effect on the squads team moral.
Hope I`m wrong.

Scotland 0 Croatia 4
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

Norn Iron 25/03/2008 09:41:58
#80

It's a friendly, so ideally the result shouldn't matter.
Does that mean then, that should Scotland get beat
3-0, you'll clamber for the whole Scottish contingent at Rangers to be re-called for the next one? Of course not.
It's a good chance for Burley to see what other players can bring to the national team. Good luck to him and his team.
59

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25/03/2008 09:45:55
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 09:49:11
Call me a sceptic (it comes naturally to me) but I can't help but think this is all too convenient. An interntaional friendly before what could be the most important game of the season for both OF clubs and players are withdrawn. Coincidence?

It is the correct thing to do if you ask me but FIFA rules make it impossible for clubs to tell the truth meaning we have the ridiculous scenes of GB and his medical team trying to legitimise the call offs.

Of all the Rangers call-offs only Barry Fergusons could be genuine as he is carrying an injury that has been well documented.

Anyway, good luck to U21's tonight and to GB and the team for tomorrow night.
61

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 09:50:09
#83

And completely true and all !!!!!

You believe it, so therefore it happened !!!!

Dear, Oh dear.
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Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 09:51:44
#82 As its Burleys first game in charge, he should be able to take a look at the strongest team and then see who else he can bring in to spice it up. The result IS important as its about setting the tone for the future. If Scotland win, then Burley is on a winner, if they get humped 4-0, then his decision to drop the Rangers bhoys, will bite him on the backside.
63

Richardinho,

25/03/2008 09:53:17
Nice isn't it, whenever Rangers do something wrong, it's always 'the old firm' who are to blame.
Are we supposed to believe that the four rangers players who will feature next Saturday are injured, whilst the one who probably wouldn't is fit?

Yes Barry Robson has called off, but given that he hasn't been a first pick so far for Celtic, he probably wont feature on Saturday, whilst Brown, mcManus, Caldwell almost certainly will.

Rangers; The quintessentially British club; ie-anti-Scottish.
64

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 09:55:18
#86

How can he look at "who else he can bring in to spice it up" if he is "able to take a look at the strongest team "?
Give the untested boys a run for the full 90, he'll learn more in the long run.
I wish N.Ireland had this problem !!!
65

jerrymanders,

Resting/injured but available to play. 25/03/2008 10:00:49
#84

Captain Marvel has been carrying an injury for weeks, so we are told. All of a sudden he cannot play for Scotland but will, no doubt, be available for his club on Saturday. If he can play for his club surely he can turn out for his country. Dailly has the least chance of making it if he has broken his toe.
66

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 10:02:47
Swardsman @69

I was in Dublin for a stag do last Juna and on the advice on a mate from Dublin told all the guys on the stag do to go to Abrakebabra after the first nights festivities and I have to say you need to be very very drunk to eat their kebabs. Gourmet they are not!

Did make me laugh to find out the stag woke up in the toilet cuddling what was left of an extra large donner tho'.
67

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 10:08:01
89

It's been described as a "cracked toe", not a broken toe...could it simply be a "cracked toe nail ?"
68

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 10:08:06
jerry @89

Has Dailly broken his toe? I didn't realise, I apologise if I have done him a dis-service with my previous comments. If that's the case then he won't be playing on Saturday either and that could be a blow for us.

As for BF, if he can play for Rangers then he probably could play for Scotland but maybe hin injury is one that needs more time between games to allow him to play at anything like his usual level. Given his performances have dropped off recently I tend to think that this may well be the case.
69

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 25/03/2008 10:10:39
#87 dicky bhoy
anti scottish---not guilty
anti football --- not guilty
anti septic --- guilty as charged
get ready for the bears picnic
70

Jo Jo,

25/03/2008 10:11:07
Playing an international friendly at this time of the season is simply stupidity on the part of the SFA.
It stands to reason that as we approach the business end of the season that players from the Old Firm will be involved in important matches.

And if they have been passed as unfit for Wednesday it doesn't mean they are unfit for saturday.

Only a MOPE would get paranoid when there is nothing to be paranoid about.

Without their daily fix where would they be?
71

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

Norn Iron 25/03/2008 10:12:58
Headline on BBc news

"Four N.Ireland players have withdrawn from the Northern Ireland squad to face Georgia in Wednesday night's friendly"

Must be catching. By the way, Steven Davis isn't one of them !
72

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 25/03/2008 10:14:00
This has always been a common theme as regards Ferguson. The others jumping on the bandwagon perhaps!
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gerry mac,

25/03/2008 10:20:17
yea celtic bhoy hear ya
wonder if it was all british select would they do the same with them being quintessential n all?
just a thought.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 10:27:18
Could this all come back to haunt Rangers ?

The comparisons with Gretna/Lyon are unmistakeable, and on that occassion at least Walter went through the proper channels.
75

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 10:29:43
Celtc Bhoy @96

Any chance you could list some of the so called games BF has called off from, just some. I think you'll find it isn't actually as many as you think.

gerry @97

It's not that it's Scotland, it's the fact we have our biggest game of the season a few days later. Try to see it for what it is not what youy want it to be, difficult for some Celtc fans I know but you really should try.
76

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 10:30:31
Patrick @98

Keep hoping eh?
77

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 10:31:10
#98

"The comparisons with Gretna/Lyon are unmistakeable"

Rangers preparing for what was a Final 16 eliminator and a Scotland friendly international with Croatia?

Rangers winning against Lyon would have helped the "co-efficient" for all Scots teams.
Scotland winning on Wed will have no bearing on their seeding in the World Cup qualifiers.

You decide?
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idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 10:34:31
Mind you,Basket Ball would have come in "handy" on the edge of the box situations.

Hang on ,hang on,cancel that...

...The Very Reverends not in charge of the whistle.
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GersFanOfFitba,

25/03/2008 10:34:38
Personally, I'm astonished at the reaction of some of the jungles on here. Could it be that they're running scared of the game on Saturday???

Let's see: we've had an extremely busy spell, and it's not surprising, for me, that players are carrying knocks. Since it's not an important international, there's no point in risking players for this, is there?

That's the rational point of view. For me, there's a good rationale behind not risking players if they're carrying injuries.

Top of the league
CIS Cup Winners
UEFA Cup QF
SC QF

Life's really quite good.
Isn't it?
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 10:39:18
99 & 103

From your comments I would assume that you would have no problems with Celtic pulling out Mc Manus Brown Hartley and Caldwell then.
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LyonHearts,

le teil 25/03/2008 10:40:05
#98 Rangers winning the CIS cup will have no bearing on anything either! Neither will the Old Squirm carving up all the trophies for themselves year in year out have any bearing on anything either!

Boring and domineering! Shame all the glory hunters who flood to Darkhied & Greyskull from around the country don't share this view!

How predictable that the Rangers Bully boys are so pleased with themselves for winning the CIS cup for the 900th time - on penalties!

Now they have withdrawn their players from the Scotland squad cause they couldn't beat Partick Thistle last week! Proper Scottish - NOT! Smith left the national job and now he has withdrawn his players! Maybe the Republic of Govan should field a side of it's own?

Actually it would never be a Republic would it? Cause you're all so loyal to the Queen of England aren't you?
82

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 10:43:28
Daily Record, Today

"CELTIC tough guy Scott Brown last night insisted he isn't a dirty player.
The Hoops midfielder says he was unlucky to pick up his 13th booking of the season in Sunday's 3-0 win over Gretna.
And the Bhoys' record signing reckons he didn't deserve any of the other 12 yellow cards either."

Brown feels no regret about his cautions and said: "I'll admit there are times when I can get caught up in the heat of the moment.

"But my honest assessment is that I haven't merited any of the 13 bookings I've received this season."

Parkhead boss Gordon Strachan invited Brown to have a look at himself and his conduct when he spoke about his player's "indiscretions" after the win over Gretna at Almondvale.

And Burley followed up with his fatherly advice as preparations got under way for tomorrow's friendly with Croatia at Hampden.

And on that note I'm off as the paranoid, paranormal and probably para-handy are beginning to take root as Sat looms. Let's hope for an exciting game on Sat.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 10:50:22
Tuatha De Dannan @104

I think it would be perfectly understandable if Celtc withdrew those players from the squad, I'd have no problem with it.

In fact, if I was a Celtc fan I'd be be more p1ssed at WGS not trying to withhold these players given the importance of Saturday's game, rather than being annoyed that the Rangers players have seen the neeed to do it.
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 10:54:28
109 Agree with you 100% I personally would rather no Celtic players were involved with international football as I find it utterly uninspiring and could not care who wins what. However I doubt Gordon Strachan would get away as lightly as Walter Smith is in the press.

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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 10:55:37
baile atha cliath Hibs @108

Definitely agree on Abrekebabra, manky kebabs.
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hinckleyexile,

deepestegngland 25/03/2008 11:00:29
funny how Rooney and Lampard et al despite injuries are available to play for England. how come they never have the amount of injuries we have?
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 11:02:32
Tuatha De Dannan @110

I do believe in internationals but when it's a friendly and it falls like this one does then a healthy dose of realism can't go amiss.

I understand what you are saying about WGS he gets some stick, generally becuase of his caustic relationship with the press, but he must have known Rangers would pull some players and could have 'hidden' behind that and withdrew his own players.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 11:16:25
Todays quiz

rules: all questions must be answered. Any cherry picking of individual questions will be determined to be null and void.

1) Of the five Rangers players withdrawing from our beloved national side. How many will be playing for the true national side on Saturday?

2) What does David Weir possess that Kenny Dalglish never possessed in allowing him to pick and choose when he plays for Scotland ?

3) When was the last time that an SPL club went five continuous games without a booking ?

4) Is receiving only three bookings in the domestic league since the beginning of the year a European record ? For a bonus point how many minutes did it take Celtic in the last Old Firm Derby game to beat Rangers yellow card total for this calendar year ?

5) Is the FIFA 5 day player ban on a player who is withdrawn from a national squad only instigated at the behest of the national association ?

6) 7 goal Lee Mc Culloch has 10 yellow cards and one red card this season. If a red card counts as two bookings then what % of these bookings has he received in domestic games and express it as a % the disparate ratio of bookings to games, similarly Charlie Adam and Carlos Cuellar ?

7) Comparing the likes of Charlie Adams and Mc Culloch booking record for cup games against SPL games indicates that this SPL booking avoidance must be a concerted effort. Alternatively Walter sends his players more fired up for the diddy cup than the SPL. Explain this disparity ?

8) Why were cash strapped Gretna made to play in Livingston by the SPL with West Lothian and Borders police insisting that Gretna make the tie all ticket. Turning thousands away from the stadium which has a capacity of 10k. Official attendance was 3500 while Gretna is still in administration ?

9) Sir Minty Moonbeams one day after Peter Lawwlell stated that extending the SPL would impinge on the integrity of the SPL came out with more bombast about a big spend this summer for Rangers. Coincidence or not
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 11:18:42
contd.

10) Why has no date yet to be announced for Walter Smiths assault on the fourth official against Hibs two weeks ago?

11) Is Nacho Novo banned from playing this weekend against Celtic after his career threatening tackle against Hibs two weeks ago ?

12) How long after landing on earth for the first time would it take a Martian to determine that Rangers must win the SPL this year ?
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 11:20:42
114 & 115

The answer to all of the above is "Your all paranoid"
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 11:24:00
#116

If you had said "Your all in denial" it might have to have been a referral ;-)
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 11:25:24
@114

1. There were 5 OF players, only four were Rangers players.
2. A bus pass.
3. 1939
4. No and the bonus point is 37 minutes.
5. Yes, although I thought itnwas at the national managers behest.
6. Erm..... is this a trick question so Rangers fans can't take part in the quiz as we can't answer all questions as per the rules?
7. Eeeer, eh....see my answer at 6 please.
8. I don't know.
9. Now that's just silly, his name is Lawell, not Lawwlell.
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Skunk-gers,

The SICK-note 4...??? 25/03/2008 11:32:54
Hypocrits. Pure and simple.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 11:33:06
#114 & #115

Some more....

1) Who is on thier best run of League form for over 10 years?
2) Who has beaten thier great rivals 3 times running without conceding a goal?
3)Who is the first team to win domestic silverware?
4) Who is the only Scottish team left in Europe?
5) Who is top of the league?
6) What player incredibly denied deserving ANY of the 13 yellow cards he has received,fueling his increasingly desperate club's supporters paranoia?
7) The supporters of which club is Scotland try to cover up any shortcomings by manipulating stats to thier advantage?






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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 11:34:23
#118

1. You forgot Davie Weir

6. Are you a referee
7. Mike Mc Curry Perhaps ?

can you not count to 12 ?

Entry dismissed
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 11:34:44
#120

Please count to 12.

Entry dismissed
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 11:37:26
@ 115

10. The SFA have already stated no further action will be taken against Walter. I think secretly they are scared he might batter them.
11. Yes.
12. If they knew how to get here, they'd know before they landed.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 25/03/2008 11:40:26
Apologies for diverting the thread towards culinary matters earlier..That said,I'm away for an Apache Pizza and a roll and chips from the chipper...Later guys if the cholesterol disnae get me first....;@)
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 11:40:31
#21

Awe, that's not fair man. I posted answers before you seeing Q's 10, 11 and 12. As soon as I saw then I answered, see my responses at #123
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 11:45:22
#123

10) really ? never read that can you provide me with a link of that?
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 11:46:18
120 To quote the great Michael Schumacher "To win you only need to cross the finish line first on the last lap" The last lap is in May. We shall see who will win then.

I would rather be in the position of being 3 points ahead and a game in hand, however given the choice between Celtics end of season league fixtures and yours I know which one I would rather have. I think just about makes you lot slight but only very slight favourites. To listen to the majority of the Rangers fans on here you would think you were 12 point in front.
103

Finnharp,

25/03/2008 12:01:44
Barry Ferguson, Christian Dailly, Lee McCulloch and Allan McGregor: You are all a disgrace to your Country putting your club first and cheating other Scottish fans (outside the OF) a chance to see a full strength squad play against a good croatian team, but what do you expect you play for a team full of disgrace and cheating, its how you are bread.

Barry Robson has not been first choice for club, therefore don't see GB picking him first anyway.

Well done the rest of the Celtic Bhoys keep your intergrity in take and play for club and country. GB thanks for showing you have the toy dolls to stand up to RFC, your doctors had a look at the RFC players and said yes they all have 48 hr injuries as they will be back at training Thursday, therfore your doctors are a joke George.

I hope Scotland win and all Celtic Bhoys come through without injury, and we win on Saturday, shame on you Ibrox boys.
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Alexei Verdy,

The Press Box 25/03/2008 12:10:42
Even as A Celtic man I do admire Barry Ferguson's genuine ability but, when it comes to international friendlies, you could put money on his not turning up. Do I need to wish him a speedy recovery for Saturday's match ? Methinks not.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 12:12:29
#129

Kris Boyd must be gutted at not getting the chance to start against Celtic
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 12:14:58
71 - Brownlie, I am a Celtic supporter and if Barry Robson 'walked over broken glass to play for Scotland' then he'd prove himself to be just a bit too stupid to be considered for a place in the team.

Maybe he regularly had to walk over broken glass to get into the Dundee Utd trining ground - Dundee is a dive after all - but he plays for a serious club now and should refrain from past habits unless he wants to rot in the reserves.
107

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 12:16:00
#126

I was joking, I thought you were too. I don't have any specific link but the offence carries an automatic two game ban. He would only come before the beaks if the referee reported him for further action, as far as I know that has not been the case or it would have been widely reported.

I know a lot of Celtc supporters are comparing this against the four game ban WGS got at Aberdeen but that was because it was the second time he had been sent to the stand. A second time means an automatic four game ban - as I understand it - he appealed and it was reduced to a two game ban.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 12:16:31
120 - is the answer to all those questions: Rangers?
109

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 12:17:58
Hugh @131

Come on mate, when has intelligence been a requirement to get into a team? If you take your average player the game would be a helluva a lot poorer if it was.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 12:19:44
I never really thought of it like that. Just had an image of Barry Robson sitting there looking depressed with bandages on his feet. I felt like kicking him in the chops, I really did!
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Bosco Bhoy,

----Donegal---- 25/03/2008 12:28:21
What this sad episode shows us, and its something we all know, that few pro football players give a tos* about playing for thier nation especially if that country is one of the minor players. Their club will always call the tune and we cant hide from that fact.

What compounds this is the crazy self serving attitude of the fans of the powerful clubs who can only see their narrow self interest before the good of the national team.

Is it any wonder the wee nations struggle to get to the majour tournies when you see the type of commitment demonstrated over the last couple of days.
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idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 12:29:40
Has Sir Wantaway laid down the law and made it clear which hoops and loops that the Ibrox heaving hordes will have to go through before HE will consider them for a handout in the Portugese away ticket shambles.

You can have one...
but no you....you can have one....but no you...

The Ibrox Angry are raging at Sir Wantaway humiliating them ?...you`d better believe it !!

Get "Ready" And Beg !!!
G.R.A.B.


Humiliation personified.
Isn`t it.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 12:40:29
136

It didn't use to be that way.

I think Walter Smith's decision to leave Scotland high and dry when it looked like we might be getting somewhere was the tipping point.

The situation was exacerbated when the Scotland job was cast aside like sh*t off a shovel for the dizzy heights of Birmingham City.

And now today Rangers are the ones who are dropping turds on Burley's head and doesn't he know it...but his hands are tied.

Actually, it's easy to see that McGeady made the right choice not to be associated with this rabble.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 12:47:47
#127 Tuatha

I would tend to agree with you. Nothing is settled yet although i reckon if we win on Sat we will have one hand on the trophy.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 12:49:10
#133 Hugh

Five out of seven mate. Not bad. Number six is of course Scott Brown and number seven is Celtc.
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Bosco Bhoy,

25/03/2008 12:52:18
Just caught the end of an interview of French manager Domenach on eurosport. Great stuff. He said he selected England for this friendly not for their organisation or tactics but for the 'intensity' of their play.

Decoded he is saying England are shi*e but they do get stuck in. Although we did know that especially after Croatia destroyed England recently.
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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 12:55:19
F**k me.....I'm oot the country for 2 weeks and what do I find on my return......

1. Rangers get pummelled into a 1-0 defeat in Germany..
2. Dundee Utd keep it scorless at CP....
3. Dundee Utd then throw it away in the diddy cup...
4. Aberdeen knock us out the SC...
5. Alan McGregor is banging anything that moves....
6. Gretna goes T*ts up....
7. Fir Park is still a mess....
8. Ibrox looks just as bad....
9. Moonbeams gives away £50k to the Rangers support...
10.Moonbeams hikes prices to take £250k from Rags fans.

....ain't it strange how it was suddenly mentioned in the papers about a week or so ago about how Bazza has been playing through the pain barrier....

Wait a wee minute....is there no a Scotland game coming up?

McCulloch has suddenly developed a..."TWEEK"??? You watch him run about like a headless on Saturday!

Dailly...broken toe...fair enough!

McGregor?....according to text on Sky sports last night...Rangers hadn't as yet given a reason for his withdrawel?....due to the fact he's wating on Wattie to let him know what's wrong with himself!
119

Kenny Boy,

25/03/2008 13:00:23
Are you all aware that one of the Scotland physios doing the assessment of the Rangers players is also the Rangers physio????
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 13:01:28
144

You make one concession for Dailly, but I'm afraid that's a loada b*llox too.

They have been careful not to describe it as a "broken toe" , though that's the idea the lap-top loyalists are seeking to cultivate.

Look closer...the words are a "cracked toe"...since they avoid using the word "broken", we can safely assume that it ain't, and just like the others, Dailly will be playing on Saturday.
121

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 13:02:28
145

I didn't know that, but didn't need to in order to smell the dung.
122

Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 13:14:20
What these call offs tell me is,

Walter Smith cares about winning the SPL
Gordon Strachan disnae.

Strachan OUT!
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 13:16:01
141 - Scott Brown is a mentalist. The scary thing is that he might actually beleive that he hasn't deserved any of his bookings. He reminds me of a mad dog that the local Priest used to own. Running around doing mental stuff when its not really called for.

However, he has got bags of talent and its my gut feeling is that he wont wait until next season to prove the doubters wrong!

JJ, one question, as Aiden McGeady got suspended after six bookings, that must mean that he got the maximum points from every single one, even that one at Inverness when he shouted at the guy who just ran his studs down the back of his ankle, do you think that makes McGeady the most violent thug in the Scottish game?
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 13:17:36
148 - Care to expand on that one Steven?
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idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 13:20:50
#145

Thats no the same physio that ruled oot big John Hartson and ruled in Daniel Prodan is it !

You would have thought he would have earned his jotters with Walter the Assaulter last time.

Anyone furraan away ticket in Portugal ??

G.R.A.B. it !!

Couldnae make this up.
Could you.
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Busymale,

25/03/2008 13:21:05
I think Walter Smith has paid the biggest compliment of his life to Celtic. He clearly wants to keep what he thinks are his better players free from injury and rates Celtic high enough to play his best team.

It also shows the desperation to win the league even at the expense of losing face. So be proud Celtic, their advertising the lack of depth in their team, and their running scared.

What I'm smelling has cleared my sinuses.

Can't wait till Saturday now when the league opens up again.

Hail, Hail.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 13:25:47
Christian Dailly, Mcullough, McTavish - Waldo's best team - I think you might be correct there sir!

Strachan really needs shot if we lose the league this year!
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Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 13:27:50
#150 FFS, work it out for yourself! Its not hard!
On Sunday WGS was asked, "What problems will it give you if McDonald and Brown get yellow cards and subsequnt suspensions?"

His reply was, it won't give me any problems, it will be the players problem.

Well, that says it all, this guys attitude stinks and if he thinks its not his problems then someone show him the door. He'll know soon enough come Sunday afternoon.
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G...,

Scotland 25/03/2008 13:32:24
shockeroonie! what a kerfuffle!

For those with not so good memory..some stats on the Georgia Away Qualifying fixture last october when the OF game was played 3 days after

5 rangers players and 4 celtic players in the squad.

2 rangers pulled out (Hutton, McGregor), 3 Celtic players pulled out(Caldwell, Hartley & Brown)

3 rangers players featured (Weir Ferguson Boyd) 1 Celtic Player (McManus)

MCCulloch was suspended.

All were fit for the OF game. Only one teams the undermining Scotland though eh!

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GersFanOfFitba,

25/03/2008 13:34:13
#104. I'd have no issues with both sets of old firm players being withdrawn. None at all.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 13:34:16
154

Your red, white and blue 'y' fronts are sticking out your elastic waistband.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 13:34:51
154 "150 FFS, work it out for yourself! Its not hard!"

Dont get stroppy with me sunshine! I was hoping that you'd put forth an arguement in a mature fashion so that we could debate the merits of letting your players play in afriendly before a big game.

Personally, I think that as Celtic are looking at 1 game a week from now until the end of the season, a run out against some of Europes best will do young guys like Brown and McManus no harm whatsoever and might even do them good. PS - they might get injured, but they might get injured in training also.

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Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 13:35:19
This is the lastest pile of bile to come out of the wee man trap.

Georgios Samaras once again came off the bench to net for Celtic but, with Scott McDonald and Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink also on target, the Greek may be left among the substitutes at Ibrox.

"He's had a few starts but I have to be fair to the rest of the players," said Strachan.

"I can't forget all the good work Scott and Jan have done this season, although I imagine there will be a time when Georgios gets his chance."

This reads, Gordon is too scared to change the team. He will lose the dressing room if he drops either of the two strikers.

NO PLAYERS ARE BIGGER THAN THE CLUB. YOU HAVE TO PICK THE BEST PLAYERS FOR THE GAME.
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GersFanOfFitba,

25/03/2008 13:37:24
#114. Away back to feelinpersecuted.com, ya great numpty. The only reason YOUR team got players BOOKED was that they deserved it for their fouling. YOU were damn lucky not to get two players ordered off, and were damn lucky NOT to have been beaten by more than the 4 legitimate goals scored that day.

Bitter Silly Bhoys. Great, isn't it?

PS David Weir was dropped by Burley, so that he could try out other options. He's 37 you know!!!
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 13:37:52
#155,

I think you forget that the SPL was already won by the time Scotland lost to Georgia
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Jed Zeppelin,

Dundee 25/03/2008 13:38:12
Sweet Jeebus - when Barry Robson was an arab, and playing out of his skin, he couldnae get a sniff of a Scotland cap ...fast forward - now he's a celtic player he can't call off quick enough.

something is rotten in Denmark there. SOFBTRC.
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G...,

Scotland 25/03/2008 13:40:35
#161

Last October..before the 3-0 ibrox game...

It was a psychological boost for wattie..but i don't think it was won ;-)
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 13:41:17
G @155

Big big difference between the Georgia game and this one - and I don't mean this is a friendly!

Could it be that the Celtc players have refused to pull out of the squad due to a lack of respect for their manager?

Maybe they even the league has already gone so there was no need to pull out of the squad?

Interesting questions, aynopne care to comment?
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Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 13:42:22
#157, aye right you are.

#158, I take your points and accept what your saying. But I think Celtic need to do more to try and protect the best players and prepare properly for Sundays fixture. Walter has done it, why has Gordon not!?
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 13:43:03
165 - Ok, I will.

Total Pash!

Happy?

142

Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 13:44:30
166 - Maybe because Walter is soooooooooooo much better than Gordon.

Happy?
143

AJ Fife,

25/03/2008 13:47:04
Typical!

Does anyone know Ferguson's politics?
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 13:47:48
Ah Hugh, what happened to that 'put forth an arguement in a mature fashion' you mentioned in #158?
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Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 13:48:26
#168, I think you are the one wearing the Union Jack panties if you are saying you are totally happy with the attitude, ramblings, tactics coming from this guy.

146

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 13:48:35
Afternoon AJ, he's a Labour supporter and financial contributor.
147

Alasdair,

25/03/2008 13:50:12
Four players from one team is genuine?
How very likely.
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AJ Fife,

25/03/2008 13:56:34
Efternin yersel Justa #172,

Aha, that explains it! How can you be a unionist voter and a Scottish international at the same time? The two things are alien to one another, don't you think so?
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Bosco Bhoy,

---Donegal----- 25/03/2008 13:59:53
Guys, this time its Rangers who have gubbed Scotland and another time it will be Celtic.
It happens and most of you dont care along as your beloved RFC or CFC collect the title. Its the exact same with Man Utd, Liverpool fans etc etc. The 'national' cause isnt on the radar for fans fot he big clubs so lets stop the bullshi* and stop pretending you care about Scotland.
150

idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 14:01:26
Never thought I`d see it.

Ragz fanz jumpin through hoops to get an away ticket in Portugal.

Who is going to impress Sir Wantaway the most and be deemed by HIM and HIM alone,who will qualify for a ticket.

Only 16 days left to do the impressing Ragz fanz !!
`n Sir Wantaway`s no an eazy man to impress...ask Hutton !!

Fail and you`re no gawn.
Simple as that!!!

Hoop 1234..hoop 1234....

Comical.
Isn`t it.
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Bosco Bhoy,

25/03/2008 14:03:15
171 Celtic fan steven

I think many of your views are valid but Jaysus man show some backbone and lets see how the season pans out before we crucify WGS.
Yes the team has underperformed this year and next season i would like to see a big improvement but WGS performance over the first few years has been OK by me.

Dont know if i would want you behind me coming out of the trenches if you know what i mean.
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Bosco Bhoy,

25/03/2008 14:07:02
Royalty

I know your on the wind up but you do know very few Celts would get into a GB team and besides that a combined team would still be way short of what is required at the top level to win anything.

Players from these islands just dont have the necessary skill and dedication to compete for Euro/World Cups.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 14:11:09
AJ @174

I agree mate, it is alien but then again I am a nationalist, live in England and vote LibDem. Now where's the sense in that?
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brettgallacher,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:11:39
in the job 5 minutes and right away his bottle crashes when the anti scottish players from celtic and rangers desert their country again we lost chance of euro 08 because after taking game off before italy and they all had a broken shoelace before georgia game which we lost tell them all to p1ss off down south or to ireland in celtics case and lets go with real scots who would p1ss blood for their country
155

Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 14:12:42
#178

Point taken, Im a bit "the glass half empty" and Im tryig my hardest to be up for it on Sunday. But Strachan is giving me nothing to work with. Whats suddenly going to change between now and Sunday?

We will know who will win tha game after the first 10mins when we see which team is winning all the 1st and 2nd balls and winning the 50:50s.

Place your bets.
156

Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:18:35
Steven, your whinging putita. If I was near you, I'd slap you out of it son!
157

Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:19:41
187 - That will be a cigarette, I hope?
158

idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 14:22:38
Between now and Sunday Sir Wantaway might have decided to give away some Portugal tickets to those Ragz fanz HE deems deserving.

Hoop 1234...hoop 1234..

Then again he may not.
It is afterall entirely HIS decision.

Demeaning.
Isn`t it.
159

AJ Fife,

25/03/2008 14:23:21
Justa#181,

That seems perfectly reasonable to me - remember it was the Liberals in the late 19th century that accelerated the interest in home rule for Scotland!

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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:24:00
182 - Brettgallacher..............I see you have made no effort to use punctuation, yet again.

You're just too hot to handle son. Leith's answer to James Dean. Rebel without a job!
161

Bosco Bhoy,

25/03/2008 14:24:37
187 Royalty
"boys to glory against all odds"

You obvisiouly didnt see the movie Zulu with Michael Caine?
LOL

C'mon big fella the Empire is gone accept and move on.
162

Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:26:02
170 - You're 'effort' gets mine, mate!
163

Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 14:26:22
#186 apologies, thanks for the heads up.

#188 this my only outlet, i try and tell the wife what I thinks but she soesn't give a sh1t... "Gordon Strachan is the Celtic manager now???"
164

Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:26:32
194 - Have you had your lips round a Prince Edward lately?
165

AJ Fife,

25/03/2008 14:26:56
#194,

Really, do you know Prince Edward that well?
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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 14:27:36
#160

"the only reason your team got players booked...was because they deserved it"

Hugh Dallas was on Setanta recently and was asked about some of the recent decisions by refs....

He was asked why Koooooosan was not booked for going into the crowd to celebrate after scoring against Gretna?

Hugh's answer...."we spoke to the referee after the match and asked him why he had not booked Koooosan for his goal celebration...the referee held his hands up and said he had forgotten about that rule"....

In any other top league in the world....that ref would have been suspended or demoted for a specified period...

But not in Scotland....oh no sir....the same ref was put in charge of another SPL game 2 weeks later!
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AJ Fife,

25/03/2008 14:27:39
#197,

Hey, that was mental!!:)
168

Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:29:03
193 - A good mate of mine from Grangemouth found himself to be the only white guy working in Alders in Croydon. None of the other gentlemen would speak to him. In retaliation, he got his Zulu DVD and put on in the staff room just before the busiest break time.

Needless to say, it didnt go down too well!!!
169

Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:29:56
Totally, to think a Fifer could be almost as sharp as a Grangemouth man - thats mental.
170

A Clamper,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:30:41
So to sum up. It's a friendly International and there is an old firm derby after it so players are injured until said derby. Goerge has to be diplomatic and say he believes the players are genuinely injured but he knows and we know that's pish. What's new !
171

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 14:31:20
Hugh @195

It wasn't an effort, mate! They were some genuine questions, from your resposne I have to assume that you would not agree with the general gist of my post then?
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:34:19
205 - No, I reckon they were tongue in cheek wind-ups!

But if you arer serious, no I dont agree with that at all.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 14:37:23
Hugh, how can you see my face from there - anyway it was a lollipop - nicked from my kids easter sweets.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:41:50
207 - So you're the kind of guy who'd steal sweets from a kid? You make me sick;-)
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:42:24
208 - I see your point, but im pretty sure that not why they are substandard.
176

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 14:45:05
#209 Oh aye, Creamosa are way too good for children!
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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 14:45:13
Anybody know what McGregor's problem is yet?

possible reasons....

1. He's laddered his socks/tights....
2. He's lost an eye lash....
3. He's got Ibrox pitch knee....
4. He's got..Wattie told me not to syndrome....
5. He's lost his gloves....
6. He's got Glesga bird flu....
7. He's had an attack of the..BNP..(Bazza's no playin)

Or is it...Craig Gordon is just a better keeper?
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:45:35
Guys, Im off as I have been taking the lilian all day and now need to do some work!

Enjoy!
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 14:50:00
212 - Hes stoopid-lookin'?
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Boyne Bhoy,

25/03/2008 14:52:38
#212 He has an appointment with a new wee blonde?
181

GersFanOfFitba,

25/03/2008 14:52:59
#199. Why are you bringing up ANOTHER game? Can you not face facts that the majority of your team were absolutely bang out of order in the last OF game?

Or maybe you're running scared?

The point, here, made by several, is that refs can't get it right all the time. This is evidenced by the fact that 2 cellic players DID NOT GET SENT OFF, and that we had one VALID goal disallowed.

There you have it. Nothing to do with bias. You know it, Guv.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 14:59:45
Do we know who the ref is on Saturday ?

Not Mikey I hear...but what about keks-his-pants Clark ?...well keks-his-pants when it comes to doing anything that might upset the baying hordes of Ibrox?
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 15:00:38
As long as it ain't either of those two, I don't mind.
184

Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 15:02:32
#218 Gersfanoffitba

I fear you are wasting your breath,fact and reason dont sit well with timmy's arguments.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 15:03:35
Stuart Dougal is the official for Saturday.
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tomislav,

Serbian Loyal RSC 25/03/2008 15:06:40
144 Paul, so you haved been out of the country for a couple of weeks,,,, during your travels you didnt happen to see 60.000 celtic fans by any chance did you ,,,,,,
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 15:08:55
Aaahhhh....I forgot about him.

Stuart Dougal will still be smarting over his utter collapse in the witness box concerning his inability to give ANY cogent reasons for sending Strachan off.

The question is, will he behave himself now that he's been exposed, or is he one of these lunatics that just keeps going?

He was humiliated by Celtic , that's for sure...but has he been humbled?

Bit nervous about a ref who clearly has an axe to grind with Celtic taking charge of so important a match amidst the baying hordes of Ibrox.

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idee fixe.,

C.I.S. Corruption Is Successful !!! 25/03/2008 15:12:17
ALL football fans and I mean football fans know Ragz "won" the Corruption Is Successful cup final with the corrupted assistance of the referee and without whose assistance they would not.

That trophy lies stinking in the blue room till next year when hopefully,hopefully,it can be won fair and square.

Till then its a lingering disgrace.
Isn`t it.
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 15:13:05
#219 "Not Mikey I hear...but what about keks-his-pants Clark ?..."
#220 "As long as it ain't either of those two, I don't mind."
#224 "Aaahhhh....I forgot about him.
Stuart Dougal will still be smarting over his utter collapse in the witness box concerning his inability to give ANY cogent reasons for sending Strachan off."


Oh Deary me !!!
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 15:14:35
226

Had Rangers knocked the stuffing out of Dougal's reputation in the recent past, I'm sure you might feel a little anxious yourself...the point is academic though because Rangers would never find themselves in that position.
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 15:20:51
It really does not matter who the ref is on Saturday, if Celtic play the right team and the right type of football against the 4-1-4-1 formation we will win.

3 at the back Bobo Mc Manus O'Dea

2 full backs pushed into the middle with a regular three midfield players and any 2 from 3 up front Will be enough to beat Rangers. First goal will be so important.
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GersFanOfFitba,

25/03/2008 15:22:12
I would suggest that even if the referee was called "finbar neil lennon anton rogan ahpurelovethecellic o'shaunessy", that celtic fans would STILL be making up reasons as to why they would be against celtic on saturday. "Aye. That guy said that Rangers hud a good player once: that pure means he's biast, like."

You couldn't make it up. Honestly.

Watch those windows, ref.
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GersFanOfFitba,

Embra 25/03/2008 15:24:15
Gosh. Cellic fans' paranoia knows no bounds. It's worth noting that Rangers, to date, haven't appealed any touchline suspension, whereas cellic have APPEALED EVERY ONE.

What does that tell you?

Paranoid? Oh. I think so.

Watch your windows, Ref.
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gr8scot,

Toronto 25/03/2008 15:27:55
It's understandable that Celtic supporters are lashing out at Rangers,they will look for any ammo they can get their hands on and hurl them at Ibrox, what else is new, don't give me the loyalty to Scotland crap, that's a copout and Celtic fans know it. It's a friendly kiddies, it's a great oppertunity for GB to look at some young talent, look at the big picture, the world cup qualifiers are just around the corner, get behind him, support Scotland, Rangers will do their bit in moulding Scotland's team, they always have.
195

Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 15:33:11
Bluenoses are born not manufactured. We do not choose we are chosen. Those who dont understand dont matter and those who understand need no explanation.
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jerrymanders,

They broke the mould down Ibrox way. 25/03/2008 15:34:23
#237

How exactly are they moulding GB's FIRST team as Scotland Manager?
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monkey man,

25/03/2008 15:39:37
Rangers are bigger than the Scotland side so its a no-brainer regarding call-offs.. We don't need interruptions on our way to pick up four trophies.
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&Larrsonfixestheradio,

25/03/2008 15:42:02
#236,

It tells me that Walter Smith had no basis for an appeal but GS having got a 4 game ban reduced to 2 and then subsequently to 0 was right to appeal. I believe that the humiliation suffered by Stuart Dougal over that decision was well documented by the laptop loyal. It basically meant that his employers agreed that WGS had no case to answer to or Dougal was lying through his back teeth. Whatever spin you wnat to put on it .

I wonder if this might affect Douglas impartiality for Saturday? He was the referee that called for all our officials to strike when Neil Lennon only got banned for two matched for barging an official. I cant recall Dougal calling for similar action when Walter Smith done the same two weeks ago and accepted his two game punishment.

I have to say I am more interested to see if Dougal will add to the three. Yes only three SPL bookings that Rangers have received this calendar year and it´s nearly April !!
199

Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 15:50:08
I always support the national side and go to games when i can but to me its club first,country second. For that reason i am perfectly happy to see the gers players miss tomorrow night. I would guess that a lot of the Celtc boys on here are of the same view so its hypocritical to the extreme to lay into the players.

Club or country first lads?
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Richardinho,

25/03/2008 15:50:56
I think we should just go for the old 4-4-2. We might as well stick with what we've went with so far this season. We tried to change it against Barcelona and that didn't work so we might as well go with what we know.
Doesn't matter to me the personnel much. all of them will give their all if playing.
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 15:51:17
238 No excuses from me Celtic have always had an uphill battle playing Rangers and their 12th man every game. But we know that before we start so we know what we have to do.

I hope you remember the latter part of your post if things go wrong for you, which I believe they will. As posted earlier a draw will kepp me reasonably happy with 2 home games against you to come.
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monkey man,

25/03/2008 15:51:38
#236

Stuart Dougal's refereeing career should have ended when he refused to send off The Lurgan Bigot earlier when he ran amok kicking anything in blue at Ibrox.

Dougal's cringing words of " I did everything I could to keep him on the park" should haunt him forever.
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monkey man,

25/03/2008 15:59:54
# 254

When the infamous Sellik referee paranoia re-introduces itself you know they are bottling it big time. Soooo predictable.! lol
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Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 16:02:26
#249

Really? Just like Donut,Naka and VoH have been doing all season? That'll do us nicely. All talented players but not an ounce of commitment or fight between them.
205

Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 16:03:13
#249, I thought the tactics in the 2nd half of that match were working....

I'd like to see the same again on Saturday. 4-4-2 is too predictable and lethargic.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 16:04:49
#255 Brian

Agreed mate. Fancy us for the victory but would take a draw. Our away form plus Celtc's recent home form makes Parkhead a far from scary prospect.
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Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 16:16:29
#262 Agree.

I think if we employed that system, Rangers would struggle and we would have a better chance of the 3 points.

Its obvious to everyone the current formation isn't working well enough, so i'd dearly love to see a variation in the formation.
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Celtic Fan Steven,

25/03/2008 16:16:48
Come on Gordon, be a man.
209

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Simey,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 16:25:41
Personally, I would rather that Celtic did not allow any players to turn up for Scotland. Why should they prop up an institution that has been proved to be biased against them (hence Jim Farry's resignation) and which also allowed a member club to openly operate a sectarian signing policy for over 100 years. As long as wee McGeady is fit when the republic need him that's all that I care about. Nice to see young McCarthy of Hamilton has also chosen a country which has anti-sectarianism enshrined into its constitution. I care SFA for the SFA. You'll never beat the Irish!
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 16:25:46
253 265 Just because we are paranoid doensn't mean they are not out to get us.



Over the years that I have watched Celtic and Rangers games (goes back to late 60's I'm afraid.) You lot get more breaks than us. Not worth arguing about I am sure we could spend the next two or three days listing issues on both sides but as I said we have a football match on Saturday and the result is important. A win for either side changes the odds drastically a draw is probably ok for both, given as I said earlier, your current points advantage but two home games for us.

No excuses if you lot win then we are really struggling and it will be yours to throw away, but then I will always remember the feeling that I had when we threw the last game away against Motherwell a couple of years ago. It hurt big time. and it can happen to you too. In the words of a certain J Greaves "football's a funny old game"
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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 16:30:19
#236

All of ours were overturned....

What does that tell you...

If your innocent you'll appeal....

and if you don't....what does that tell you?
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 25/03/2008 16:31:21
#267

I might be making a mistake here is assuming that you are Scottish but I find it very, very sad when someone like yourself carries no affinity whatsoever to their nation.

Have you ever been to Ireland?
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 16:32:16
#268 , You write .....
"You lot get more breaks than us. Not worth arguing about I am sure we could spend the next two or three days listing issues on both sides..."

So there, you said it so it must be right. C'mon and catch a bloody grip, man. That's the sort of blindness that leads to all the paranoid bile we witness here most days.

#266.
It was very quick witted of the e-mailer to send that remark to the BBC. So well done to them.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 16:32:26
257 - JJ, how many goals has JVOH scored this season?
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 16:36:50
272 Its not blindness because you don't agree. I have neither the will nor the want to get into a slanging match, but at the end of the day I ahve my opinion, I don't ask nor wish you to agree but I do have the right to air my view.

Agree with your last comment though about the wit, sometimes people are a bit too sensitive, though I doubt the BBC should have read the email out. Had it been a live comment then there would have not been much of a comeback on the beeb, but to read it out is a bit crass.
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 16:41:37
#274

You are more than welcome to your point of view, my friend. It's the dismissive "not worth arguing about" remark which i think is wrong. All decisions are open to debate, hopefully good, sometimes funny debate.
As for the email, it shouldn't have been read out, but as you say, a bit of wit does no harm.
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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 16:50:04
#266....Hugh

"The comment went unchallenged prompting a deluge of complaints from livid Rangers supporters"

Sorry to correct you on this Hugh.....but I think in this PC world in which we live....it should have read...

"The comment went unchallenged prompting a deluge of complaints from the facially challenged Rangers supporters"
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 16:55:05
275 "the not worth arguing about" comment was indeed to deter the usual morons (on both sides) from spouting their bile and cutting and pasting from web sites and previous posts. I am afraid I cannot be @rsed with it. Reasonable debate I would gladly take part in.

No panic from me, I still believe we are more than capable of winning the title. There will be fans out there calling for Gordon Strachans head, win or lose this year, as I am sure there must be some of you in blue that cannot bear watching the turgid football being served up at Ibrox this season. Maybe its a means to an end but I'm not sure I would be happy paying to watch it. But considering your results of the last few seasons then this has been an exceptional one for you, but only the CIS cup so far, don't go counting chickens etc

As far as I am concerned win or lose Strachan has added much to Celtic football club and I would be happy for him to stay and continue adding better quality to a young squad. There are some great young players at Celtic both in the reserves and in the youth, there does need to be a bit of experience added,a la the reason we spent on Gravesen. Unfortunately it did not work but then even Alex Ferguson has been known to get big signings wrong. Remember Juan Sebastian Veron, fantastic player in Italy and Argentina absolutely useless in England for both Utd and Chelsea.

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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 16:59:35
#223

Not sure....I was in New York for a week!..then spain...then Glasgow for a couple of Days...but thanks for asking!
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 17:03:23
#278

Wouldn't expect any fan to panic ahead of Sat's game. The match is too close to call and both teams will probably drop more points in the run-in.
The football Rangers are playing, although not "Ruud Gullit sexy football", is hardly turgid. Remember, even M O'Neill was criticised at Parkhead for his up-n-at em style.
Sometimes you play to strengths, and without Cousin and Darchville for long periods, rangers play without a natural out-let up front. The addition of Davis has helped to give us more commitment and possession and with Thompson back we have more options. Losing Hutton has been a blow for the team, attackingly as opposed to in defence.
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idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 17:04:14
George Burley had a better chance of Ragz players declaring fit than Champions Celtic have of a level playing field at The S.W.A.M.P. on Saturday.

As was the case in the Corruption.Is.Successful. cup final......

forget the football...

ALL EYES ON THE CORRUPTION.

Sad.
Isn`t it
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 17:04:31
277 - Exactly my point.

279 - Easter Island called - they want their enormous head back. Quit pretending its called Filpe Sebo and tell them where you'se buried it?

ps - diddums, some smart a$$ got one in under the radar. Get over it mate, its just a joke - a joke at you lots expense, granted - but a joke nontheless!

You appear to be paranoid?
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Bosco Bhoy,

25/03/2008 17:09:19
279 Dark Horse

"BBC - Blatantly Broadcasting Celtic"

For every paranoid tim obsessed rightly or wrongly about biased refs we have a paranoid bear obsessed by mhedia favouritism to the Celts and equally lets not forget about the paranoia of the rest of Scottish football and how they feel everything is run to suit the 2 glasgow clubs.

Paranoia-you know is a condition that knows no boundaries.
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 17:09:22
282 I can only comment on the games that I have seen and to be honest that was mainly your champions league games. Lyon away excepted, it was pretty poor.

MON's celtic team was at times criticised wrongly for "an up and at em" style, only because we had big players. But most of the attacking with O'Neils team came from wide players such as Thomson and Agathe with 2 big centre forwards and Henrik. Not saying they never lumped the ball but the majority of their football was played on the deck.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 17:09:47
I can't say I've been at all impressed by Simon Davis, though in fairness I've only seen a handful of his games...Rangers fans seem very taken with him, but I wonder if that's the "he knows what Rangers are all about" syndrome.


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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 17:10:31
#279

Oh dear....struck a nerve there have we...

Shebo looks like an exhibit for a zoo.....and yer problem with that is?

Just imagine what they think of Cueller the cellar dweller?

KevinC@ntThomson....again...Don't see what yer problem is there either?

I've got it....you're one of those facially challenged Rangers fans hugh mentioned?

Right hands up...who still has one of those Davie Dodds photos on the fire place to keep the kids aware from the fire?
228

idee fixe.,

G.R.A.B. Get "Ready" And Beg !!! 25/03/2008 17:11:05
Stuart Dougall is of course aware who is SOLELY responsible for the distribution of Ragz away game tickets in Portugal.

Hoops 1234...hoops 1234...

Stuarty on a promise ?

Hmmm.
Isn`t it.



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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 17:13:21
#290

Sorry....should have read away from the fire.

Davis Dodds...a man of many talents....he also kept cats out the garden!
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 17:14:41
#287

From an inexperienced team, I have looked on the Euro games as a bonus to be honest. Again, when Cousin or Darchville were available we seemed to be able to create more, but I agree it wasn't exciting stuff, but we're still there. For how much longer is very debateable.
I would doubt very much if either sides shown in europe will count for a lot come sat afternoon, however.
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 17:17:26
#289

Not impressed with Simon Davis either mate.

But his brother Steven Davis is a hit at Ibrox !!! :)
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 17:18:21
Just consider the jim farry episode.

It is unrealistic to say that Farry acted alone. There would have been secretaries, file auditors, management staff all perfectly aware about what was going on...does anyone think that Farry was coming in early, intercepting correspondence, burying it and noone else knowing ?

The president of the sfa rifling through the morning's mail every day , plucking out letters from Celtic asking WTF is going on?

All the 'phone calls from Celtic asking about progress about a high profile signing going unanswered.

Horse manure as we all know. There would undoubtedly have been others aware of Farry's dirty tricks and his subsequent attempts to cover his tracks.

Even after it became clear to Celtic that the sfa were up to their tricks, it was apparently thought unthinkable that Farry himself was the orchestrator.

Farry was the orchestrator, but there were plenty inside the sfa that knew what was going on , and did nothing either from fear that it might harm their career to say anything or because they too wanted to help Rangers win the league.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 17:26:54
288 - I knew he reminded me of someone but I just couldnt put my finger on it;-)

Cheers!
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 17:28:33
#297

Jim farry was indeed a complex character, but to suggest he helped rangers win the league is false. The game Cadette missed was Scottish Cup semi-final against Rangers, not a league game.

Considering that one of his most troubled passages involved the decision to sanction the playing of a Scotland World Cup qualifying match on the day of the funeral of Diana, Princess of Wales, suggests that he was hardly a confrimed follower ot the Gers, if we are to go by some of the comments posted about rangers and their fans.

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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 17:30:35
301 - Cadette was a goal machine, our points would have been better. Not sure if that would have won us the league, but it would have helped.

Farry got what he deserved!
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paulmac,

surrey 25/03/2008 17:33:19
Now then Dark Horsed....are the lies still seeping from yer lips....

New York....you should try it some time...it's called a holiday in this neck of the woods....of which I normally have 3 or 4 a year....

It coincided with St. Patrick's day...and fun was had by all...

Have you held your hands up yet to all the other posters....about yer lies or are you just gonna try and front it out?
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 17:35:11
298 - Rorie, is that the pit bell chimin'?

time to f**K off back doon the shaft!
239

George Best,

25/03/2008 17:37:01
Surely Neil Lennon is the ugliest player ever to play football in Scotland?

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idee fixe.,

C.I.S. Corruption Is Successful !!! 25/03/2008 17:41:30
Stuart Dougal is the declared ref for Saturday but that can change.

Alan Dick was the declared ref 12 hours before Ragz` game last Saturday.
He never got near the whistle though.

Alan Dick,if you remember was the SPL delegate responsible for reporting Rangers fans for "sectarian singing and chanting" during their game against Caley Thistle in Inverness on 4/8/07.

I can feel a Very Reverend getting pulled from the hat.

No matter...

forget the football...

ALL EYES ON THE CORRUPTION.

Shameless.
Isn`t it.
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Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 17:44:40
301 HAM Please tell me you are not trying to defend the indefensible. The Jim Farry affair is documented and recognised by the SFA as having happened. It was blatant dishonesty, illegal and most probably sectarian. As was mentioned earlier Farry did not act alone, but the punishment meted out was risible and aimed only at Farry. Now please don't twist the facts, however like most things it is done and cannot be undone, so we should all acknowledge the fact that it happened and move on and hope that there are now procedures in place that would ensure a repeat cannot happen.
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Hugh Hefner .,

25/03/2008 17:44:57
306 - In recent years, yes. But comarisons between Lennon and Dodds is like the film Hollow Man being copared with The Shining. Ones pretty tame and the other is real brown trouser rated!
243

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 17:47:02
#309

Indeed I'm not. Just stating the game that cadette mentioned was a cup match and not a league game. as we said earlier, each has their own opinion and I am just offering mine, plus a wee bit of fact as to the most contentious gane Jorge missed.
IMHO, Farry was a dick.
244

George Best,

25/03/2008 17:48:43
No, Neil Lennon is definately uglier. Definately.
245

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 17:51:22
#314

If you're hinting, that he suffered fron depression, you would be correct. ;)
246

George Best,

25/03/2008 17:56:33
316. Hey Brian

Why are you always crawling up Celtic fans backsides? Serious question.
247

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 17:56:38
#317

He's Portugese, and one of these ;)

Negri now, there was a nutter.
248

Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 17:57:10
Cadette was a great finisher, Celtics best(most skillful) frontline for many many years was the triumverate of Cadette Van Hoidonk (cant remember how to spell it) and Di Canio.

But just goes to prove that you need more than just class to win a league.
249

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 18:03:58
#321

Don't know what story was the most ridiculous. Negri getting hit in the eye wi'a squash ball, or that big Amo was the culprit?
Big Amo playing squash? He was far to gorgeous for that stupid game. Then again, there's the shorts ....
250

George Best,

25/03/2008 18:05:03
316. Serious question Brian. Just trying to see what makes you tick (or "the Tic" in your case).

Why are you always crawling up the Celtic-minded posters on here's bottoms?
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Jealousy,jealousy,

25/03/2008 18:06:06
#322

Was it not meant to have been big Porrini? Another one i heard was that Negri was sh*gging his missus and got clocked for it.
252

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

Norn Iron 25/03/2008 18:11:10
#325

Could well have been Porrini. You know how things get distorted by the time they get to us over here. Next you'll be telling me that Porrini, Negri and Amo were bloody Italians !!!
253

George Best,

25/03/2008 18:11:59
324. Don't cry Brian, I was just wondering why you crawl to them all the time, it's very noticeable and stomach churning.

There you go again with your "the tic" this and "the tic" the other.

I think you're their pet. It's just an observation Brian, don't get upset. It's not your fault you're that way I suppose. Maybe you were a wee sook at school too.

254

Tuatha De Dannan,

25/03/2008 18:12:51
Good night all. Today it has been a pleasure with most of the morons obviously still eating their easter eggs or on other threads.
255

G...,

Scotland 25/03/2008 18:26:55
Brian - there's footie fans on here that support there team, but are happy to banter.

and there's folk on here who are only interested in hating the opposition.

You fall into the first category to me..
256

Bosco Bhoy,

---Donegal---- 25/03/2008 18:36:29
Brian

Wee Georgie fae east Belfast obviously missed your spat with Fanad patriot earlier this week.

Never mind that fool and as G put it your a decent footie fan and that annoys plenty of punters on this forum.
257

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

25/03/2008 18:44:47
The headline to this article is a tad lap-toppish ..."old firm 5"...that'll be Rangers 4 and Celtic 1, the one being Robson who must be champing at the bit to play for anyone just now.

And the words " but noone believes him" should be added onto the headline.
258

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

Norn Irn 25/03/2008 18:50:00
#333

Davis is playing for my lot tomorrow, is Boruc playing for Poland? Just wondering, by the way, not stirring !!
259

Scunner,

Aberdeen 25/03/2008 19:30:43
Just shows how little a Scotland cap is worth these days. Players like Ferguson are glory hunters. If only Celtic and Rangers had the same passion for Scotland as they do for Ireland & Great Britain then Scotland would do so much better.
260

G...,

Scotland 25/03/2008 19:38:16
yes..ferguson's 46 caps for his country have been glory filled days for the dark blue, so its a disgrace he's sitting out this friendly..clear case of glory hunting.

You don't get that up north eh..what with pittodrie selling out every week whether it be bayern munich or st mirren.

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JPB (Norn Iron Supporter),

Toronto - There's Only ONE Steven Davis 25/03/2008 19:44:42
Rangers players deserve the rest afterall they are representing Scotland in Europe during April, trying to get the co-efficient up ye know like.

Who did ya play for Brian???
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Colin P,

25/03/2008 22:13:35
Sorry to not get involved in the petty bickering on this one, but I read a report on the BBC tonight.

Jorg Albertz scored for Clyde in their 2-1 victory over St Johnstone. Well done big man!
263

jerrymanders,

This beautiful place called Paradise. 25/03/2008 22:29:03
#339

No. That will be when they announce the team line-ups as CFC will have a series of injuries from playing International football.

BTW, Ugly Betty, no contest. And a near contender from the not so distant past, Elephant Boy, Robert Fleck, good player but heck was he ugly.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

25/03/2008 22:35:24
Colin.

I also noticed the "Hammer" getting on the scoresheet, as he did in his Clyde debut.

The big man's only the same age as Davie Weir, and clearly looks after himself. I reckon a 12-month contract to play at Ibrox under Uncle Walter beckons!
265

Colin P,

25/03/2008 22:41:42
342 BE

Wouldn't that be nice!!
What fond memories I have of the Hammer!
266

Hately, Ally and Mo.,

25/03/2008 22:46:43
#341
Wee Fleck def no beauty queen.
But, hey what about
Roy "Naomi" Aiken,
Stevie "Heidi Klum" Fulton
Neil "Lulu" Lennon
Alan "Cyclops" Thompson.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

25/03/2008 22:47:01
Aye Colin

This one sticks in the mind.

And what about the opener from Thern? Even the Hammer couldn't have bettered that!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61UELGj_13o
268

Colin P,

25/03/2008 23:25:42
Brilliant first goal. How is it that the Germans and other Europeans can hammer the ball like that?

I recognised the perm at the end....Wim Jansen, wasn't it?
269

jerrymanders,

Get in there! 25/03/2008 23:44:06
#346

I seem to remember Paul Lambert hammering home a ball like that....
270

Colin P,

26/03/2008 00:30:26
jerry
No doubt Lambert had one or two nice ones.
Generally speaking though, Scottish players have not been seen to hammer the ball like a Muller or Albertz, or other Euros.
271

jerrymanders,

Hot shotting it. 26/03/2008 00:47:00
#348

Billy Bremner?

Dave Narey's "toe-poke"?

AM against Switzerland?

Murdo McLeod...oh yes that was against.....

Paul McStay (several)

Bazza has hit one or two...not very often in Internationals right enough.

Sean Maloney burst the net too.....

McFadden?

Aye, right, only Euros can hit a shot!
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Colin P,

26/03/2008 00:54:51
count those against the ones you see weekly in the Bundesliga or Serie A.

I only said generally speaking.

Watch for some from the Croats too.
273

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

26/03/2008 01:00:20
Celtic will win at Ibrox.

Stuart Dougal will put aside the fact that he was humiliated by Celtic before an independent tribunal only a few months ago...Stuart Dougal is an empoyee of an organisation whose president was sacked for "gross misconduct" on account of his orchestration of an attempt to derail the signing of Jorge Caddette....no surprise that UEFA started to smell the coffee from that point although the latest SFA Chief Exec. would have you believe that it's all a popish conspiracy.

Oddly enough Caddtte would score a perfectly legitimate goal against Rangers at Ibrox which was ruled offside by an ibrox season ticket holding linesman.

Should season ticket holders of a particular club be allowed to officiate in matches where their favoured club is participating ? Should contravertial decisions by such partisans command any respect ?
Should Catholics allow their protestant brethern to indulge themselves in such disgraceful partisanship ?
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

26/03/2008 01:14:15
As long as Stuart Dougal doesn't start touching up the asses of Rangers players, his windows should be safe.
275

The Borgia,s PR. Company,

Govan 26/03/2008 01:33:26
As a supporter of the club who hold several world footballing records and one of them is collectively the amount of caps players from one club have accumulated and the injuries sustained while representing their country IE. Eric Caldow v England and Ally Mcoist v Portugal /broken legs spring to mind among the many instances over the years where Rangers have suffered the loss of key players for the next club game with what is at stake in champions league terms i can understand why both clubs would withdraw players from a friendly match.Burley already knows what the players that have withdrawn can do so this gives him an ideal oportunity to find out what the others are capable of or not surely that comes into this as well?
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jerrymanders,

Putting it into perspective. 26/03/2008 01:49:48
#353

You only hold certain "records" for a reason. Work it out. JJ has been described by Pele and Eusabio as one of the greatest players they ever played against. How many caps? Disgrace. Whilst Celtic were doing NIAR how many were picked for Scotland? Meanwhile Capt Fantastic hasn't made fifty yet. Beckham is on 99 and only two years older!!!! Only count on players that are willing to play.
277

sonofcosmos,

glasgow 28/03/2008 00:41:18
george..stop calling me craig..burleys best quote so far ""These call-offs are not just because there is an Old Firm game coming up" x

 

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