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Dividing Rugby World Cup between the home nations makes sense

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Published Date: 10 January 2009
WITH bidding and lobbying for the World Cups in 2015 and 2019 underway various, mostly English, journalists have again been declaring that it is much better when the tournament is staged in one country, and indeed asserting that there should be no more "split" World Cups.
"Asserting" is the right word, for all we get is assertions, no coherent argument. The fact is that only two of the five tournaments to date have been single-country ones – 1995 in South Africa, and 2003 in Australia. Both were successful – nobody de
nies that – but is there any evidence that they were more successful than the "split" tournaments in 1991 and 2007? If there is, I haven't heard it.

Admittedly, we in Scotland haven't made a great success of our share in the tournament in 1991 and 2007. In both years some matches were played before miserably poor crowds. But, though France were the hosts last time, the tournament scarcely suffered from having a few games played in Scotland and Wales. Indeed what was perhaps the most dramatic game of all, the quarter-final between France and New Zealand, was staged in Cardiff's Millennium Stadium.

In any case, making comparisons between the tournaments held in South Africa and Australia and those staged in Europe is not comparing like with like. Australia may be a single country, but the distance between Brisbane and Sydney – to say nothing of that between Perth and Sydney – is far greater than that between Paris and Edinburgh or Paris and Cardiff. Moreover, in political if not rugby terms, England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, though not of course the Republic of Ireland, are all parts of a single state called the United Kingdom. To pretend that a tournament split between the various parts of the UK is somehow less coherent than one split between Queensland. New South Wales and Western Australia is bizarre.

Actually even some English journalists who call, fairly enough, for England to be the sole host, concede that, given the timing of the Cup, with football grounds likely to be unavailable, the Millennium Stadium might have to be hired to supplement Twickenham and Wembley in the later stages of the tournament. Why not Murrayfield also for a quarter-final, even if all pool games are in England? There are lots of rugby supporters in the north of England for whom Murrayfield is at least as accessible as Twickenham.

The real threat to the future of the RWC comes – surprise , surprise – from the International Rugby Board itself. They are demanding that they receive a guaranteed £80 million from the 2015 tournament and £120m from its successor. Given that the IRB already grabs all the revenues from sponsorship, corporate hospitality and television, leaving the hosts only with gate money, this is preposterous. Delegates from the bidding countries should tell them roundly that greed was last year's fashion.

It's true that the IRB uses this money to promote the game in countries where there is no professional rugby, and the Board's new chairman, the respected Bernard Lapasset, has been critical of what he sees as the "money obsession" of the professional game and the selfishness of the big countries. Fair enough, but the professional game is the goose that lays the RWC golden eggs, and demands such as the IRB is now making are likely to kill the goose.

Elsewhere another English journalist, Peter Bills of the Independent, wrote this week that the IRB is now set to approve all the experimental law variations (ELVs) in the spring, with England and South Africa coming into line in favour and Wales swithering. I trust someone has been pulling his leg. Or perhaps some Australians have been feeding him with "disinformation". Considering that the most objectionable of the ELVs – that which downgrades most penalty offences to free kicks, and which makes, on the evidence of last year's Super 14, for an unstructured, dismally repetitive game – has not even been given a trial in the Northern Hemisphere, except for a brief one at club level here in Scotland two years ago, any decision to adopt the ELVs in total would be grotesque.

One trusts the northern countries will stand firm against them. Rugby is healthy and becoming healthier here, especially in England and France. But crowds are growing even in Scotland, and it is only in Australia that the popularity of the game is threatened by rival codes.

A north-south split would be sad, but the fact is that with the Six Nations, the Heineken Cup, the French Top 14, the Guinness Premiership and the Magners League, we could get along without them – until they came to realise how much they were losing. Better to keep rugby as we know it, even at the expense of losing the World Cup and doing without the autumn internationals. The last mentioned would be a loss that only the various Unions' treasurers would weep copious tears over.



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  • Last Updated: 09 January 2009 9:58 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
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stevearm,

London 10/01/2009 00:26:16
What a surprise, Scotland predictably want to get their grubby mits on another world cup. You say that the quarter final between France and NZ was a great spectacle... I assure you it would have had the same effect, if not more so if it were staged in France. Scotland crowds were pathetic in the games they held, and that was considered a home game for them!

The Welsh/Scottish games in 2007 were a poitless embarrasment and detracted from what should have been a single host World Cup.

And re: the ELVs... I think you need to read the article a bit better. Bills said that the IRB were set to accept "most" of the ELVs. It said nothing about the Southern hemisphere sanctions one, which I seriously doubt the English are backing.
2

La barrière de Senlis,

France 10/01/2009 00:51:00
Just a word about "But crowds are growing even in Scotland"
A real shame, the crowds for last two derbys in Edinburgh and Glasgow were promising (the crowd in Murrayfield, partly because loads of free tickets from the Autumn tests)good support paying fans in Glasgow though.

Unfortunately the crowds for the last ML games are;

Edinburgh V Ulster 3,393
Glasgow V Dragons 2,217

Keep the fingers crossed for the rest of the season.
3

Phall,

Glasgow 10/01/2009 10:51:39
From the style of writing I guess this is by Allan Massie. England have developed the game well enough over the last few years that I think they deserve the whole show in 2015. Given the attendances here not only in 1991 and 2007 but also in 1999, ewe should tread warily.
4

Brigandaca,

NYC 10/01/2009 18:10:59
I find it disgusting that the idea of having the RWC anywhere but developing nations is still considered. If the next one has to be in Europe ofr TV reasons (as I've seen suggested) then do it in Italy - they have the stadia.

...and Japan MUST get to 2019 at the very least. The game would become massive there is this was to happen. I saw a couple of Top League games there last week and there were close to 15,000 at the double header club game.
5

Mobat,

10/01/2009 22:46:40
#4 agree Japan and italy must be in the frame
6

KapKremmen,

Munster 31/01/2009 09:23:47
Whoa! The RWC in France was originally planned to be run solely in and by France. However, at the 11th hour, England put in a competing bid. Many people believed this to be other than decent as it was so obviously "France's turn." To their credit some English journalists reported it thus at the time. France then sought the support of other members within the IRB. In turn, these members wanted something in exchange for their support. So Scotland and Wales got games. It is not clear what favour(s) Ireland sought. During this period Lansdowne Road was, and is still is, under development. So maybe time will tell.

Regarding the ELV's, will there be another on to stop "modular mauls"? You know, the opposition pull down one part, but the rest keep going while the just detached pod rejoins from the rear... Roll on!

 

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