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Published Date: 13 October 2008
THE ABILITY of Scottish rugby players to step up to the big stage was found wanting on Saturday and with autumn Test matches now carrying World Cup-seeding significance, this was not the Heineken Cup launch national coach Frank Hadden needed a month away from facing New Zealand.
He may have to wait longer for his exiled players to be available, but on the showings of Edinburgh and Glasgow at the weekend Hadden may need to deploy more of those outside these shores than inside against the All Blacks if there is not a sweeping improvement this week.

There was an almost tangential feel to the aftermath of Edinburgh's numbing defeat to Leinster, the talk swinging from the bizarre concession of not one, two or even three, but four soft tries to the anxious recall of positives, which flickered in good set-piece play, the control of parts of the game and, latterly, threatening attack.

Leinster had lost eight of nine competitive visits to Murrayfield, three in the Heineken Cup, and a fierce bid by the Dubliners to mark the 10th with success was expected. But, though their finishing and support play when handed gifts was exemplary, they were able to perform below their best again in the Scottish capital, but win comfortably on this occasion.

Unusually, Mike Blair, the Edinburgh captain, was as culpable as team-mates, and he admitted afterwards: "At half-time we were shocked and very disappointed.

Whenever we made a mistake, they capitalised and unfortunately we made four big mistakes and they scored four tries off it.

You have to learn week on week, but we're making the same mistakes and we have to stop that against Castres (on Saturday night]."

Remember the feeling when Italy scored three 'freaks' off the bat against Scotland at Murrayfield two years ago? The same emotions gripped the home fans among the 5,000-plus on Saturday, only this time it went on for longer, only ending when the half-time whistle allowed Edinburgh off the ropes.

The first blow stemmed from Rocky Elsom, a powerful and quick former Wallaby flanker, breaching poor ruck defence close to halfway and sprinting 40 metres to score. The second was a shocker for the match officials as well as Edinburgh's defence, a forward pass of over a metre from Luke Fitzgerald to Rob Kearney overlooked and young flankers Scott Newlands and Alan MacDonald – one of the few otherwise good performers – taking a Felipe Contepomi dummy at stand still on halfway and flailing at the fly-half as he broke to then feed Brian O'Driscoll, who eagerly shrugged off a tackle and raced 30 metres to score his first try in 21 months.

With five minutes of the first half remaining, O'Driscoll ducked inside Blair in his own 22 and hared upfield, before returning the compliment and sending Contepomi in, and then Shane Horgan finished a bout of almost uncontested inter-passing on the right involving Jamie Heaslip, the No8, and Girvan Dempsey.

The Murrayfield mood was helped little by Chris Paterson hitting the target to add to Phil Godman's early 45-metre penalty.

The hosts were, however, thrown a lifeline five minutes into the second half when Jim Hamilton, the lock marking his home debut with a terrific all-action display, galloped into the Leinster 22. Blair threw a wide pass with a try inevitable, but Contepomi intercepted while offside and referee Debney, on consulting his assistant, sin-binned Contepomi and gave a penalty try. Crucially, however, 14-man Leinster controlled the next ten minutes, even missing a penalty, and when Debney opted against another penalty try – when another certain score was denied by a Chris Whitaker knock-on – and Edinburgh garnered only three more points from Paterson, there was no way back for the hosts.

The frustration was too much for Robinson, the Edinburgh coach, who stormed out of the stand and had to be 'encouraged' to leave the touchline by officials. Matt Mustchin then tripped Kearney, and was sin-binned, Contepomi converted that penalty and for all Edinburgh's attack then uncovered the dynamism, direction and accuracy so lacking in the first half, it was too late to salvage even a bonus point against as streetwise a team as Leinster.

Later the result filtered in from Newport, adding insult to injury for Scottish rugby. Neither Edinburgh nor Glasgow are as bad as the weekend suggested, but only wins over French sides Castres and Toulouse respectively will prove that this week.

Scorers: Edinburgh: Tries: Pen try; Pens: Godman, Paterson 2; Con: Paterson. Leinster: Tries: Elsom, O'Driscoll, Contepomi, Horgan; Pen: Contepomi; Cons: Contepomi 2.

Edinburgh: C Paterson; M Robertson, H Southwell, N De Luca, S Webster; P Godman, M Blair (capt); A Jacobsen, R Ford, G Cross, M Mustchin, J Hamilton, S Newlands, A Hogg, A MacDonald. Subs used: B Gissing for J Hamilton 59mins, C Hamilton for Newlands 72, D Blair for Southwell 78.

Leinster: G Dempsey; S Horgan, B O'Driscoll, L Fitzgerald, R Kearney; F Contepomi, C Whitaker; S Wright, B Jackman, CJ van der Linde, L Cullen (capt), D Toner, R Elsom, J Heaslip, S Jennings. Subs used: C Healy for Wright 40mins, T Hogan for Toner 65, J Fogarty for Jackman 74, J Sexton for O'Driscoll 79.

Attendance: 5,376.

Referee: R Debney (England)

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1

Alistair Macintosh,

13/10/2008 08:25:48
I went to the game on saturday, who is the defensive coach? The comparison with the crazy game against Italy 2 years ago is a good one.
I then watched several other HC games on the TV over the weekend. Consistent theme? Every side strenghtened by Southern Hemisphere stars. The best of Edinburgh's players are good enough to compete, the weaker one's simply are not.
It feels like we are slowly but very steadily sliding from the top table of world rugby.
2

Venachar,

13/10/2008 08:29:54
The South Africans are changing their emblem to a flower. Edinburgh might as well do the same 'cos they are a bunch of shrinking violets!
If that was an example of Chris Patersons prowess in attack from full back never mind standoff on saturday then Edinburgh are well and truly stuffed for the rest of the season.
3

GAR,

Dublin 13/10/2008 09:05:42
#1

I would have to agree, its becoming more and more like football. Soon, we will have teams of an Arsenal type set up, where there are only a couple of homegrown players.

To be fair, Edinburgh have a lot of injuries and that has a much much bigger impact on the team than many other teams in this competition that can carry those injuries due to much bigger squads etc.
4

Venachar,

13/10/2008 09:33:05
GAR Edinburgh have 40+ registered players.


5

WSS,

sandbach 13/10/2008 09:50:16
Having watched several HC matches on TV over the weekend, my conclusion sadly is that Edinburgh were by far the poorest team on display. How do we improve, unfortunately I have no answers.
6

GAR,

Dublin 13/10/2008 10:06:58
#4 How many are southern hemisphere internationals?

We have 40 registered players, yes! but realistically how many of them possess the required skills to play in the Heino cup?
On current form. My Scotland 15 below.

15. R Lamont
14. N Walker
13. M Evans/Cairns
12. De Luca/Morrisson
11. S Lamont
10. No idea!!!
9. Cuister
1. B Stewart
2. Ford - Fitzgerald (toulon) on bench
3. E Murray
4. White/Murray
5. J Hamilton
6. Strockosh
8. S Taylor
7. Barclay

What do you think? Not too many scottish based players, but more importantly players playing in a winning team!!

7

Venachar,

13/10/2008 10:40:11
Gar Gissing and Mayer are the only non Scots in the squad.
It's not me that set's the policy for recruitment to Edinburgh's squad, you will have to ask Mssrs mcKie, Hadden and Robinson about that one.
Given that Edinburgh's level of performance has dropped so far below that of last season I doubt whether any other than the front row players at present would make the international side.

However Mr Haddens stated policy in team selection for the AI's has really really got me concerned. If he does stick to selecting Scottish based players in preference to others no matter what their form then I can see a cricket score by the New Zealand and South African 4th teams being put by us next month.
8

WSS,

sandbach 13/10/2008 10:45:06
GAR - Barry Irving, Overmach Parma fits the bill for no.10, he scored 16 points,(8 out of 8 100%) at the weekend in the European Challenge Cup.
9

GAR,

Dublin 13/10/2008 11:32:20
#7

I am not saying that Edinburgh and Glasgow sign a load of Southern Hemisphere types. At the end of the day, a lot of people in Ireland do not agree with the growing trend. However, my point is that there are a number of excellent scots playing abroad (perhaps better than what is currently in the domestic scene) who could strengthen the 2 teams.

The SRU complain about player realise! Well, correct me if I am wrong but the SRU are in charge of both teams and therefore ultimately responsible for any player moving abroad, resulting in a lack of control.

Hadden is so niave. Saying that he will only pick players playing in scotland (to an extent) alienates ex pat players and puts the players in scotland in a comfort zone to an extent.

10

JCA REID,

Annan 13/10/2008 13:55:38
To leak 4tries in the first 40minutes woeful. Game is over as a contest. Leinster in all probability stepped off the pedal in the 2nd. half to conserve themselves for the trials ahead.
11

JBA,

13/10/2008 16:12:18
Why can ex Edinburgh players Strokosch Dickensen and Lawson, who could get very little game time at Edinburgh now play on a regular basis for Gloucester and not only that but play with skill fire and passion. The standard of coaching must be a factor. It is high time outside finance and management is brought into Scottish pro rugby, reinstate the 3rd pro team and bring back our better players, many of whom did not want to leave in the first place but were forced to do so through SRU incompetance.
12

La barrière de Senlis,

France 13/10/2008 19:01:09
#9&11
SRU... resulting in a lack of control, incompetance.

Scottish Pro Rugby doesn't have THE BLOODY MONEY to keep at home his best players and attract oversea imports!!!

I watched on tv Ulster V Stade Francais (ok not the best game i suppose).

It is becoming like Football (stars coming for money)but more annoying is the game, the teams all over Europe play the same style of rugby, BORING!!!
13

JBA,

13/10/2008 19:26:47
Of course Scottish pro rugby does not have the money, that is the problem and caused by McKie's sole controlling attitude. Both Edinburgh and Glasgow had opportunities to become involved with private financing and the Borders had a private finance package in place to keep them from being disbanded but as most of us know they were all flung out by McKie.
14

La barrière de Senlis,

France 13/10/2008 20:26:52
The Caruther brother's did not have money either, and attracted Howells from a Pro side in Italy.

And played a big joke to bring Larkham.

Anyway it is not time to go for an internal fight again, and again.

I wish Scottish Rugby all the best, and i think it is VERY HARD to compete with Elite Europe just now, The pro game in Scotland did not start at the same time than others, so 5/10 years late.

But we have to give plaudits to Robinson and Lineen and some Scottish players to try again and again.

With a budget of 10 times less than big European teams.


15

B.McGeek,

13/10/2008 22:59:43
yes 40+ players getting a wage for doing what? if these are the best 15 + reserves what hope has scotland. Obviously there is no back up, so why dont they cut 10 of the hangers on and get 3 or 4 world class players (as said above the benefit of Larkham to the development of younger players could only benifit scottish rugby long term) having watched many of these lower ranked pro players (against boys who hold down jobs all week) I have not been overly impressed by their efforts. But I hear they were teaching kids pre the Leinster match rugby skills(!) what a laugh. I do hope they have had the suitable training and clearances for such a role with children, it would be typical of the sru to overlook the necessary.

 

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