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Published Date: 17 December 2008
DAVID Will, the former Fifa vice-president, has dismissed as an irrelevance reports that a Great Britain football team for the 2012 Olympic Games in London will be formally approved this weekend and has urged the SFA to remain firmly against the idea.
Fifa's executive committee are meeting in Tokyo on Friday and Saturday with the criteria for participation in the Olympic football tournament one of the items on their agenda.

Despite strident and consistent opposition from the SFA and their count
erparts in Wales and Northern Ireland, there remains a determination on the part of the British Olympic Association and the English FA to field a team at the 2012 Games.

A Fifa source yesterday said: "The executive committee are certain to rule in favour of a Great Britain team, but only for London 2012, not beyond."

There is nothing in the current Fifa statutes directly relating to a GB team taking part in the Olympics, something which has not happened since the 1960 Games.

Will, an honorary vice-president of the SFA who retired as a Fifa vice-president last year, insists the 24-man executive committee would only have to take significant action on the issue if they received a unified approach from the home nations.

"This does not make one whit of difference to the stance of the three associations who are opposed to a Great Britain team in the Olympics," Will told The Scotsman. "They are not obliged to take part, no matter what form of approval Fifa give to it, and I am sure they won't take part.

"I remain completely supportive of the SFA's stance on this. It would set a very dangerous precedent to allow Scottish players to be involved in a GB football team at the Olympics.

"To my mind, Fifa would only have a decision to make on this issue if all four British associations approached them for permission to field a unified team at the Olympics. That is the only scenario where they would be required to formally approve a team. But that is not the case, because England are the only association interested."

Sepp Blatter, the Fifa president, has previously admitted a unified GB team at the Olympics could see the historic independence of the four British associations seriously questioned for other competitions in the future. He has also suggested a GB team taking part solely made up of English players would be acceptable.

Jack Warner, head of the Trinidad and Tobago FA and a current Fifa vice-president, is among those opposed to the unique position of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland in fielding national teams despite not being independent countries.

Yesterday, Warner was quoted as saying: "I remain open on this matter". But Will and many other seasoned observers of Fifa's internal politics have no doubt Warner could use a unified GB team at the Olympics to re-ignite a campaign which would place Scotland's independent footballing status at risk.

Jim Murphy, the secretary of state for Scotland, recently urged the SFA to embrace a GB team for 2012, claiming he had assurances from Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcke that it would not threaten the separate identities of the four nations.

George Peat, the SFA president, stressed last night that no pronouncement from Fifa this weekend will persuade him that Scottish players should be part of a GB team at the London Olympics.

"Absolutely not, there is no chance of us taking part in any shape or form," said Peat. "We are adamant about this, as are the Welsh and Irish FAs.

"Personally, I'd prefer it if the English FA were the same, because I think going ahead with a GB team in any form, even with only English players, won't do our case any good."





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  • Last Updated: 16 December 2008 11:59 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
 
1

Professor-Quincy-Adams-Wagstaff ,

16/12/2008 23:10:21
David Will is a dinosaur.

What a load of xenophobic nonsense.

Why only for football? Every other sport will enter under the GB umbrella.

This could give Scotland fans the taste of success that they have never had.

Aside from any political issues - a GB team at the Olympics would give a group of 20 or so young players the opportunity to experience something unique in competing at the Olympic Games.

I think it is shameful that so many would deny our young footballers that opportunity.

This in-fighting is pathetic and is more about politics than sport & the Olympic Games - to me, that is shameful.
2

Paul in Oz,

Helensburgh 17/12/2008 03:27:43
Hey Proff for god's sake are you not with it seemingly that is it for the end of Scottish sport, we are gonna have to go under the union jack for all sports where Scotland also has an independant team.

That's right it is it for all sports rugby, hockey, bowls, curling, cricket, tiddleywinks, pub football, bar fights and binge drinking.

Also we are fobidden to say we are Scottish, we have to sing Jerusalem from now until eternity and wear St George Crossa boxers and say alright geeeeezah when ever addressing a male of whose acquaintance you are just frequenting.

Or so the scaremongers on these opages and in the press and SFA would have you think!

PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATHETIC!
3

Pilrig.,

Livingston 17/12/2008 06:03:29
1 Rufus stick to a sport you know something aboot.
4

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Scotsman in Dublin,

17/12/2008 11:53:04
Fair play to David Will for speaking out on this issue. The SFA have made their stance clear on this and they are the governing body. Why is it that FIFA can come down so hard on political interference in some countries but are not prepared to even question the interference of the British goverment. The status of Scotland as an international football team has already been damaged by this - for the SFA to agree to play would be the final nail in the coffin.
7

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 12:03:48
5

Your Celtic obsession is growing stronger.....

Do you stay awake at night thinking...breathing consuming yourself about Celtic?
8

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 12:06:20
The Olymics have managed to survive without a team Britain football team.....why the sudden desperate need to have one now?
9

KampungHighlander,

Jakarta 17/12/2008 12:06:41
"He has also suggested a GB team taking part solely made up of English players would be acceptable."

Off Course its acceptable.

When most use the term British what they really mean is English anyway.

My favorite instance of this is from the movie "Last of the Mohicans"

One British Army Officer challenges a decision by a Superior officer by saying. "I thought British Policy was to make the World England."

Kind of sums up the attitude, Britian equals English and anybody else is just some inconvenient ethnic minority that it is perfectly ok to ignore.
10

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 12:23:02
Aiden has stepped out of line...Gordon has put him in his place...Aiden has 2 choices....

1. Apologise as a grown man should...

Or

2. Don't let the door hit you on the way out!

It's that simple....
11

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 12:32:03
As for Wattie gettin let aff.....

Did we really expect anything else?

His written explanation of his comments would have been interesting reading!

Dear Grand Master Architect

I felt the guy with the Mick soundin name cheated us oot the game, so I said so on TV.

Sorry.

Yours faithfully

4th Master Elect
Wattie
12

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 17/12/2008 12:35:31
This matter has nothing to do with politics OR nationalism?

The Scottish Football Association was founded 135 years ago and, like the other Home Nations, its unique and separate articles of association allow it to field a Scottish national football team.

The national sport in Scotland is fitba' and politicians are interfering in something they should leave well alone. Let politicians get on with sorting out the present economic depression, mass unemployment, devalued house prices, and all the other massive economic problems facing the country and keep their noses out of sport.

Verbal assurances from here today, gone tomorrow politicians about Scotland's continuance as a separate footballing nation are not acceptable, as the ageing President and committee members of FIFA will in all probability be long gone by 2012!

Let ALL the FIFA members meet before 2012 to discuss this matter and by legal and binding means have the details incorporated into its constitution so that Scotland's future as a separate footballing nation is protected?

Remember, IF FIFA withdraws our unique national representation it follows that there will no longer
be any SFA, SPL, SFL, SAFA! NO FIFA or UEFA competitions at national or club level.

The end of Scottish Football as we know it!
13

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Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 13:46:59
14...Ribbonman

How would your proposal benefit Celtic?
15

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 14:24:17
I accept Aiden isn't the only one who has been playing poorly.....and to that end it might seem unfair to single him out....but if what has been reported is true that Aiden has ratlled out some abusive and/or insulting comments in full view of the rest of the squad....then I'm afraid....you have walk away for 24 hours....cool down....think it through...and apologise...

I can't imagine Aiden would have been so brave if it had been a big bruiser of a manager....or a manager that might smack you in the mouth...
16

Royalist,

17/12/2008 14:46:02
Its time Celtic fans backed Charlie Nicholas & Aiden McGeady & rescued their stricken club back from the shameless penpushing newlabour bigwigs that run it.

McGeady is another Burns, McStay, Nicholas & the fans worshoped these players in their day.

Is sad to see Celtic turned into a "brand" only interested in selling jereseys to the japanese & bringing shame on the country on Rememberence Day.

Lets hear a minutes silence for Celtic FC.

17

Royalist,

17/12/2008 14:57:09
#20 James,

From the tone of you & PM2's posts & the lack of financial gobbledygook re Rangers finances, I can tell that you chaps are a bit down.

It might be the lack of sunshine or the misery of Parkhead but do try to cheer up.

Soon be Christmas lads

XX
18

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 17/12/2008 14:57:11
Get real guys - the battle over the 2012 football team is already lost.

There WILL be a Great Britain team in the field in 2012, the FA want it, the BOA want it, London wants it and the British government want it.

The (English) FA speaks for football in this country as far as the Olympics is concerned, so there is NOTHING the three Celtic nations can do to prevent this team from competing.

What they CAN do, however, is force the FA NOT to select Northern Irish, Scottish or Welsh players and that is the road down which they must now go.

That way they can maintain their independence within FIFA, by putting forward a unified defence: "The GB team in 2012 is an English team by any other name and we didn't authorise it or support it".

They should also tell the FA - if you pick a single non-Englishman for the 2012 team, we will not back any English bids for future World Cup or European Championship finals, in fact, we will actively campaign against you.

They should further add, to pick non-English players for 2012 will ensure that for ever more, the other three countries will not support any English nominee for the automatic British vice presidency of FIFA.

Not getting their noses into the pig swill just might bring the English to heel - but I'm afraid the 2012 bus has already left.

What we don't want to see is a single British FA - although that will probably be the Old Firm's best road into the English Premiership. Just about the only reason I can see in favour of such a body.
19

Royalist,

17/12/2008 15:06:11
#22 "What we don't want to see is a single British FA"

The only way to prevent us sitting at home watching Germany, Italy, France etc winning world cups is to have a single British FA.

Its time Britain came first & we showed johny foreigner
who invented the blinkin game in the first place!!
20

Alba Abú,

The Republic of Scotland 17/12/2008 15:47:44
#23 You are absolutely correct. Johnny foreigner did invent "the blinkin game".The game was invented in England.Oh! thats the country which a certain group of football supporters in Scotland bend the knee too,and I know by your blabbering that you are one of them.

Have some pride in your own country and stop pandering to your English masters. We in Scotland say NO to a all British team. Reason--------We dont want to be British,as we are more than happy to be Scottish.End of story...........Good day Slan Leat!
21

Royalist,

17/12/2008 15:53:10
#24
"We dont want to be British,as we are more than happy to be Scottish."

"Is that a Royal Wee"
22

P Rayner.,

Latin America . 17/12/2008 16:06:07
A non story really . England has sufficiently numerous and talented players capable of representing GB without the imput of Scots , though some Irish and Welsh would be welcome . The fact is very few Scots , if any , would be chosen anyway and the humiliation that would go with that is , I suspect , the real reason for the SFA´s refusal , pusilaminous though that might be . But the refusal I suspect makes impossible Celtic and Rangers desire to enter the English leagues , which is what they must do to improve their lowly status . With this in mind one avenue they could explore ,to circumvent those characters at the SFA ,is whether they´d be accepted for , say , the Englands Carlsberg or Johnstone´s Paint Trophies which if they were to win , which I , though not all , think them capable , might encourage a future review
23

P Rayner.,

Latin America . 17/12/2008 16:12:17
A non story really . No one at FIFA , certainly not Batty , is going to give up the worlds number one sporting perk of five star London hotels , loads a cash , laid on women, a seat at Wembley next to the Queen , watching England play for a filthy Glasgow night at Hampden watching GB. If you don´t know that , you don´t know human nature or Mr Batty .
24

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 16:36:10
21....Royser...

Not atttt allll old boy....

We were simply debating the issue of the day.....Aiden1

Whilst you are still obsession about Celtic....

Now you're telling us that Charlie Nicholas, Tommy Burns, Paul McStay and NOW...AIDEN MCGEADY are your hero's.....

Your obsession really has taken a firm grip...

Have you started singing any of the Celtic songs yet?
25

Royalist,

17/12/2008 16:40:33
#28

On Dec 27th at around 16.30hrs I'll be singing
"cheerio cheerio cheerio" to the hoopyloops as they trudge out of Ibrox.

Thats if the match is still on.

26

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 16:47:41
Oh....and Royser....finances....

Yer skint...broke...potless....

Your debts have been witheld for the last 2 years...primarily because they are rocketing....

yer manager has stated he has to get shot of 10 first team players....always a sign of a team in good financial health...

Need we go on....

As a tax payer who now owns your club.....do you think we should ask Sid to stop spouting that nonsense about a £700m Magic wonderland thingy....

It's now being writing as a west end farce....with robbie coltrane thought to be first choice to play Sid!
27

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 16:50:27
29...Royser

I know what you mean......it disnae take much rain fur Ibrox to be submerged and the game called aff....

East Stirling where pure seeethin last season when it happened!
28

Paulmac2,

surrey 17/12/2008 16:55:38
29....

Ps..the game is at 12.30pm.....

They'll be turnin the lights aff about then...so security might pop up and ask you to leave!
29

Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 17/12/2008 20:25:17
Whose to say that the Old Firm lobby would not conspire to ensure Scots footballers appear in a 2012 Team GB?

Such an outcome would undoubtedly finish off Scottish Football as we know it, and ensure Celtic and Rangers unfettered access to the English game, and all its televised riches?

It would be a perfect situation for the Old Firm!
30

Pilrig.,

Livingston 17/12/2008 21:37:44
25 - you are the royal wee.
31

Pilrig.,

Livingston 17/12/2008 21:39:59
29 Royalist - if we've to have one British FA, it's only right then that we have only one British Football League.......and Rangers will be in its 2nd division !
32

Pilrig.,

Livingston 17/12/2008 21:45:02
26 - England are welcome to become team GB in the 3rd rate novelty tourney that will be the 2012 Olympic fitba competition.
Then the England supporters can go back to their long held habit of waving Union Jacks, you're welcome to keep those flags too.
33

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/12/2008 21:48:22
'The only way to prevent us sitting at home watching Germany, Italy, France etc winning world cups is to have a single British FA.'

Funny, I don't mind that, I've enjoyed the last few world cups. For the record, I'd sooner see Scotland struggling in qualifying groups year after year than having no Scotland team at all, and in it's place a 'british' team which is wholely english based and completely alienating to me.
It is the taking part that is important in sport, not the winning.
34

Dr Tim Malloy Esq.,

17/12/2008 22:03:26
I think we could have a British team just for the olympics (though it will be mainly all English).

But for the world cups etc...we should stick to the four nations.

35

Dr Tim Malloy Esq.,

17/12/2008 22:04:54
On the Aiden Issue.

As long as we win the title I don't care if he stays or goes. Better players than Aiden have come and gone at paradise.

I am behind WGS all the way.

36

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/12/2008 22:21:55
We don't even know what exactly happened, but this hasn't stopped this newspaper running stories saying 'Aiden will definitely leave', then almost in the same breath 'Aiden could stay'.
Personally I don't want to know what was actually said. What happens in the dressing room should stay in the dressing room as far as I'm concerned. Whatever was said, it's understandable in the heat of battle and in the aftermath of a defeat (or a draw in this case). I doubt that there are any bridges that can't be mended by a simple apology.
37

Dr Tim Malloy Esq.,

17/12/2008 22:43:57
40

All we know is the manager and board are united in suspending Aiden for being indisciplined. That's good enough for me to say "I am behind Gordon on this one"
38

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/12/2008 23:02:31
Aiden needs to grow up. He's screwing up badly and all Celtic fans need to let him know that. I'd be gutted for him to let something as stupid as this possibly ruin his career.
39

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/12/2008 23:02:32
Aiden needs to grow up. He's screwing up badly and all Celtic fans need to let him know that. I'd be gutted for him to let something as stupid as this possibly ruin his career.
40

Dr Tim Malloy Esq.,

17/12/2008 23:17:40
This is the making or breaking of Aiden.

This a test of his character to see if he's a man or a narky ned. If he can't apologise and resolve this then he could end up "the man who might have been"

Maloney learned his lesson, swallowed his pride and returned. Aiden needs to show the same humility.

41

Dr Tim Malloy Esq.,

17/12/2008 23:25:59
If Aiden is frozen out and Shaun is out injured I think we will see the emergence of the men from Derry...Paddy McCourt and Nial McGinn.Imagine if they ripped losers rangers apart.
42

Newton_Invented_Gravity,

17/12/2008 23:35:37
Believe McCourt has had a lot of injuries recently so the juries still out.

 

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