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Published Date: 12 May 2008
Belief soared as Rangers marched to Cup Winners' Cup final of 1961
IT WAS the start of what has been referred to as the golden age in Rangers' European history, when Scot Symon's young side began to reap the benefit of lessons learnt in previous years against teams such as AC Milan and Eintracht Frankfurt.

The la
tter club, then a force in German football, had defeated the Ibrox side 12-4 on aggregate in the semi-finals of the European Cup in 1960. It had proved a chastening experience for Rangers, and what they had to aspire to was again outlined in the final at Hampden Park, when Eintracht lost 7-3 to Real Madrid. The following season proved a watershed one for Rangers and, indeed, British football.

Hearts were league champions of Scotland in 1959/60 so Rangers were not able to return to the European Cup. But, on account of their victory in the Scottish Cup against Kilmarnock, the Ibrox team, with Jim Baxter now added to the side, were invited to contest the inaugural Cup Winners' Cup competition. The cast-list included other great names of the time, such as Dynamo Zagreb and Ferencvaros, and also a couple of sides – ASK Vorwaerts and Red Star Brno – whose names have since faded into obscurity. Present, too, were Wolverhampton Wanderers, then regarded as one of the finest teams in England and who, under legendary manager Stan Cullis, had won the league championship three times in the Fifties.

The series began with a preliminary round of two matches in order to reduce the entry to a manageable eight. Spain and France had refused to enter their eligible clubs but it was still a strong cast-list. Rangers were paired with the Hungarian side Ferencvaros, and at Ibrox in September 1960 managed to make up for two successive home defeats in Europe – Sparta Rotterdam as well as Eintracht Frankfurt had triumphed in Glasgow during the previous season – by winning 4-2. The return leg in Hungary, which was played at the national stadium rather than Ferencvaros' own ground, proved hairy for Rangers, and the Scots looked to have undone the good work of the first leg when they trailed 2-0. The away goal rule had not yet been introduced but no matter, for Davie Wilson scored on the hour mark to ward off the prospect of a toss of the coin being used to separate the teams.

After just one round Rangers were already into the quarter-finals, where they met Borussia Moenchengladbach. It was an opportunity to avenge their drubbing at the hands of another West German team, Eintracht Frankfurt, six months earlier. Indeed, they handed out a thrashing themselves, with the German leg held in Dusseldorf due to stadium concerns at Moenchengladbach. With the Eintracht Frankfurt squad sitting in the stand, Rangers, in a bruising encounter that was dubbed the Battle of the Rhine, won 3-0. The second-leg at Ibrox was a foregone conclusion, but Rangers still managed to raise eyebrows by winning 8-0, with Ralph Brand becoming the first Ibrox player to score a hat-trick in Europe.

The wishes of many were granted when Wolves were drawn with Rangers in the last four. "Wolves were one of the top clubs, and they came up to Glasgow thinking they would give us a hiding," recalled Harold Davis, the Ibrox wing-half who featured in every European match that season. "But they didn't do that."

The English reporters expected the English team to romp it, but 79,229 fans inside Ibrox saw Rangers win 2-0 in the first game. Four days before the second-leg, England defeated Scotland 9-3 at Wembley, something which made the outcome of the return match at Molineux even more satisfying. A 1-1 draw saw Rangers become the first British side to reach a major European final, and proved that the players were benefiting from this exposure to talents, and playing systems, from all across Europe.

"I played 28 European games and they were all against top teams," Davis told The Scotsman. "But we were still learning in those days. The continental type of play, even in those days, was recognised as being more ball-skill orientated rather than ploughing through the mud. It took us a long time to get over that and catch up with them.

In these days we were all Scots lads, and we had a lot to learn when it came to playing on the continent. It was the old gutsy, proud-to-be-a-Scot mentality, and we went out there and battled. And it was battling against more skilled players. In the end we were not that far short."

Not far short, but not quite good enough. Against Fiorentina in the final Rangers paid for a poor result in the first leg at Ibrox, where they fell to a Luigi Milan double and also had an Eric Caldow penalty saved. It was the first and only time that the Cup Winners' Cup would be decided over two legs although, in reality, the second match – which was played on a Saturday evening – was hardly necessary, with the Italian side, who had reached the final of the European Cup in 1957, unlikely to spurn a two-goal lead at home.

Fiorentina, then under the charge of the legendary former Hungarian international Nandor Hidegkuti, established a three-goal aggregate lead in the 12th minute, with Milan again the scorer. Although Rangers equalised through Alex Scott, Swedish winger Kurt Hamrin scored the winning goal on the night for the Italians. "We were a bit unlucky to lose over in Italy," recalled Davis. "We had as much of the game as they did, but we came out of it on the downside."

Bonfires were lit on the terraces to mark the achievement of an Italian club winning a European trophy for the first time, while Rangers, champions of Scotland again, prepared for another shot at the European Cup the following season, where more valuable experience was gathered in a march to the last-eight.

Read the orignal Scotsman match report from 1961 HERE:

http://sport.scotsman.com/uefacup/From-the-Scotsman-archives-Rangers.4014508.jp



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1

Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, they don't care 12/05/2008 07:31:12
The problem for this lot is that unlike in toxic little scotland, there will be no cheating by the officials, and as a result, the drivel dished up will be shown for what it is...second rate, inadequate and ugly football.

The defeat of the stinkgers is inevitable but the embarassment they will cause to scottish football will be enduring.

Rangers...the shame of scotland
2

Dabulamanzi,

12/05/2008 08:22:14
#1 Aw diddums. The only reason Scotland is toxic is because you and your ilk poison it.
3

Yorkshire exile,

12/05/2008 08:27:43
Oh dear - first comment comes from a bitter, hurting Celtic supporter.
Listen again to the Levein and Eddie Thompson rant from Saturday. Eddie singled out the 'wee Celtic player' who continually falls over and gets a foul or penalty.
The main embarrassment for Scottish football is the team that goes abroad and whose supporters wrap themselves the flag of a foreign country and would rather sing that national anthem than that of the country of their birth. Is there any other team in the world that does that?
4

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 12/05/2008 08:28:06
Back in 1961 there was no crowd segregation in Scotland and I remember, as a teenager, being at Ibrox a few weeks after the Borussia Moenchengladbach match, to support Kilmarnock.

A couple of Rangers supporters behind us were arguing about which of them was the truer Blue; this argument seemed to last most of the first half, before one of the pair produced what he thought was his trump card: "Ah'll tell ye hoo loyal ah am - ah went tae Borussia fur that gemme!!"

Wonderful thing the teaching of geography in Scotland - I've yet to find Borussia on any map of Germany.
5

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12/05/2008 08:29:36
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Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 12/05/2008 08:32:22
I notice this morning, at 8.23am it was still possible to post on the post Dundee United game rumpus, by 8.30am the Old Firm lunatic fringe had forced the closing down of that thread.

Well done those loonies - one of your best efforts yet - now, GET A F*@#ing LIFE!!!!!
7

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12/05/2008 08:39:16
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Publilius Syrus,

....C.I.S.....Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 08:39:27
Apart from anything else,this is hardly the scenes that Rearrangers would have liked leading up to their departure for Manchester,is it.

Rearrangers will travel down south with echoes of cheats....cheats....cheats....ringing loudly and very clearly in their lugholes,right up to the point where they cross the border and sanctuary in England.

What they must not be allowed to forget is that,regardless of the outcome on Wednesday those same chants of cheats....cheats....cheats will still be waiting and echoing for them as they cross back over the border into Scotlands dear green pastures.

The scandal of last Saturday in Govan will reverberate in Scotlands Footballing History for decades.

In fact it will never be forgotten.
Will it.
9

forbesy1873,

12/05/2008 09:21:26
I am choking for a pint of Boddingtons, mmmm yum.
10

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 09:42:06
Funny ol' game innit?

Celtic steal a point from Aberdeen and add 2 to their own in the process but their fans can't fathom any favours given to Rangers?

Should have been a penalty for DU, no doubt, but that will not be the first time we will see those kind of decisions - for or against. As for the goal chopped off for off-side I reckon the linesman got it right as the DU player was definately interfering with play. Had the offendor not been in the position he was in the Weir/Daily (don't remember) would not have gone for the ball and it would have fallen into the hands of Alexander - no brainer.

Great wee story above though. Heard John Greig say the other day that they had to play 8 games to win the ECWC back then although and that it is infinately more difficult these days....can't argue there. Asked on his opinion of wee Barry superceeding him in European appearances and the possibility of emulating his European Cup winning success he replied, "First and formost, I'm a Rangers man. Nothing means more to me than the success of this club. I hope Barry goes on to lift the UEFA Cup and everything else. We want to win everything".

John's ma' hero!
11

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 09:50:36
#4

And how do you know which country they are born in?

Assumptions....assumptions....assumptions...

Ya spanner!
12

MATYUSHENKO,

Lancashire, England 12/05/2008 09:51:08
Dundee United would be quite within its rights to insist that the game be replayed.
What?.....Oh...
13

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 09:51:14
Talking about heros...What about Tam Forsythe, eh?

Last memory I have was being in the Main Stand at his testimonial. Big Tam had the biggest smile on the park and got a standing ovation when the ball was thrown over the top of his head and he back-heeled it back in front of him. Tam was never known for his skills and it should be known that this happened as he was making his way to the tunnel at half-time.

He could cut the legs away from a centre-half, smile, apologize and make the guy think it was his fault he got tackled. Doubt if he'd play many games in the girly leagues we have these days!
14

Magnet,

12/05/2008 09:54:51
1
Credibility test ! Have Celtic had more favourable decisions than Rangers or any other SPL team this season ? Was this question the reason the other threads were closed ? Shame on you moderator ... protecting the fools without reasoning ability ... you should in fact be happy that they will be humiliated and shown as serial deniers unable tae reason or form proper debate !
15

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 09:57:46
#10

The Setanta cameras caught Braodfoot the cheat clumping Hunt just before Dundee Utd scored the goal that was disallowed by ex Ibrox season ticket holder McCurry on the grounds that it would allow Utd back into the game and he might lose his lift home on the Rangers team bus
16

Magnet,

12/05/2008 09:57:57
19
In your own time Paul ! Answer post 23 !
17

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:04:01
25
It`s not even up for debate BTO you could Question if you were that way inclined Smith ,Brines,Murphy,Clarke or Conroy but instead it is only McCurry ! The penalty was dubious and if given would have been harsh and the disallowed deflected goal was off side as the player ran across the ball and was active ! Why the big deal ? Oh! that`s right that muppet Levein is gutted that he has blown his Uefa chances over the last couple of weeks and is looking for someone else tae blame !
18

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12/05/2008 10:07:43
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paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 10:13:15
#27

Sorry BTO....in future I will use the correct reference...

Mikey the Rangers team bus driver...

Is it true Alan Freeland doubles up as the kit man when he's got a game fur the Gers?

Sorry....when he officiates their games?
20

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:13:35
30
These idiots arguing that black is white and denying the facts is not debate. If they want recognition for debate then they must show the ability tae reason otherwise they are not capable of debate !
21

Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, they don't care 12/05/2008 10:14:20
Discredited without glory...rangers epitaph
22

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 10:16:24
BTO When the carrier bags are £5 a go.....wot do you reckon?
23

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 12/05/2008 10:16:39
# 11 idee
please read match report of septic v sheep
think you'll find that your MOPES got a very favourable call
also check the 1st OF game at kraphead when robson should have been red carded after 30 seconds
pot kettle black
hope your next needle is a dirty one
WATP
Forza The People
24

paulmac,

Surrey 12/05/2008 10:18:50
#36

Are you a Sunday sport man or Guardian?

25

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S......Corruption Is Successful.....!!! 12/05/2008 10:18:58
The sight of the Rearrangers team bus scurrying across the border to seek temporary sanctuary in their beloved homeland of Engerlund will be a hoot.

However,their well earned title of domestic cheats...cheats ...cheats will be their welcome as they cross back into Scotlands dear and green pastures to a cacophony of hissing and booing.
Quite similar in fact to the welcome Koooh-Saaaahn-The-Nut received from The Ibrox Angry until Wally stepped in to tell his own fanz to shut it,or he`d be resigning.

They can run to Engerlund if they like,but there will be no hiding place for them on their return.
Win or lose.


Thats for sure.

26

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:19:02
37
It is you and the rest of the Celtic minded that are discredited for coming on here unable or unwilling tae have a reasoned debate ! Otherwise answer post 23 ! Aint that right Paul !
27

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 10:21:36
@30

BTO, I think you'll find Idee has changed his psuedonym again (gasps in amazement) to Publilius Syrus posted above (#11).

The "normal" signs are there; meaningless opinions, ridiculous accusations and sheer contempt - his MO if you will.

As for Paulmac, looks like he's losing the plot completely! It's idiotic comments like those Paul that get the threads closed. If you don't want to read them, don't come a visiting.
28

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:23:11
41
Face the music Paul otherwise you have no credibility or ability tae debate !
29

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:30:19
Is there any Celtic minded poster on here that can answer post 23 or are you all serial deniers ? Little point in getting into discussion with any of these Celtic minded posters as this is proof that they cannot reason and a proper debate would be futile ! Maybe they get O'level truth aversion and no one has told us !
30

Publilius Syrus,

.....Corruption Is Successful.....!!! 12/05/2008 10:31:39
Rearrangers imagined that the run up to their game on Wednesday would fill the meeja with nowt but praise for the team from The S.W.A.M.P.

Nothing could be further from the truth in fact.

Rearrangers efforts in Manchester are being overshadowed by the furore and debasement of our game in Scotland, by what went on at Ibrox last Saturday.

Some people are still trying to insist that that qualified as a football match.
Can you imagine the cheek of them...attempting to say that poor Dundee United were beaten in a FOOTBALL match.

What happened at Ibrox at the weekend is as far away from football as the population of Scotland outside Ibrox could wish to get.
And thats a fact.

Sad.
Isn`t it.
31

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:34:09
50 Idee
You are exempt as you are a green card holder and never claimed tae have any reasoning skills !
32

Celtic Forever,

No-one likes them, they don't care 12/05/2008 10:43:58
Number 43, there is no debate. For generations officials in scotland have cheated any/all competitors. The only difference now is that TV doesn't lie and people are refusing to tolerate it anymore.

of course you can quote occasions when Celtic and others get a lucky break from officials but rangers have enjoyed institutionalised cheating for decades.

There is no respect for your history and no glory in your future, only shame and disgust.

33

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:46:14
Don`t mention it moderator .... I can rid the threads of the Celtic minded trouble makers any time you like !
34

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S......Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 10:49:01
Its a game of two halfs we are told.

Well then,The Very Reverend The Mike changed all that on Saturday with his debasement of footballing rules and regulations with poor Dundee United his latest victim.

On Saturday,at Ibrox,that was a game of NO halfs !!

As Craig Levein so eloquently put it,"there was no point in us turning up".

The inference is that the result was a foregone conclusion.....

.......The Game Of No Halfs......


Rearrangers shame.
Isn`t it.
35

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:49:24
54 Another serial denier and truth deflector
Answer the question in post 23 or go lie down bhoy !
Your rantings have zero credibility and you are not worthy of civilised conversation !
36

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 10:50:27
@54

Saying it does not make it true CF! If you ask any fan outside the OF they would argue that was the case for both Rangers and Celtic.

Whether you have respect for Rangers, or seemingly not, is of no consequence and your opinions are your own and of those like you. That being the majority of Celtic fans....agian, saying it, as often as it pleases you, does not make it true.
37

Mayo'smasonblue,

SouthLincs 12/05/2008 10:50:41
I'm new to this game so be gentle!
Good historic article, but I see it's just a smoke screen for the weird and wonderful to vent their spleen. So here goes for the virgin, not mary btw, firstly I hope the gers come through the uefa cup clash, will be hard one but I feel we have a chance. Can remember 72, only 9 then, I know bit old for a vigin.
Watched the Gers v DU, ref got it wrong with penalty, although NH touch took him and ball away from the danger area, with CQ covering should have been pen yellow for DW, just a bad call or no call. Goal was offside from the lino's angle, no worries on that one.
Any way my first comment, I await the expected abuse from some quarters, lets dance.
38

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:53:31
I do realise that even after being totally discredited that these idiots will continue their hate campaign against Rangers but at least today they are shown up for what they really are !
39

The best-Rangers,

The pride of Scotland 12/05/2008 10:54:31
What impressed me most about Saturday was our performance. None of the nerves that had been apparent a few games ago, in it's place a swaggering confidence.

Barry Ferguson has found form at the right time of the season and Novo too is one fire.

Our solid defense and midfield with their ability and work rate can bring home the UEFA cup and wipe away Scotland's shame that was Lunatic O'Neill's efforts to win it.
The booing of the eventual winners that day shamed Scotland and only proved celtc win, lose or draw have no class.
40

AJ Fife,

12/05/2008 10:58:06
Rangers owe a huge debt to East Fife's Scott Symon. He showed the way(fitba), but alas, he always struggled with the bigotry entrenched within the Ibrox club!
41

Magnet,

12/05/2008 10:59:18
60 Mayo
Good reasoned post mate ! Welcome aboard !
42

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S......Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 11:00:11
LIVE TV cameras coming out of every available orifice has indeed shown that all domestic achievements that Rearrangers F.C. claim to have achieved in the past are now questionable.

And as a consequence these "achievements" should be expunged from Scottish Footballs History books.


No one could reasonably object.
Could they.
43

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:04:01
41
ORDER ! Quiet please ! Paul Mac has something he`d like tae say .....sssshhhhhhhhhhh 1
44

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 11:04:46
#31

Why are you so desperate to defend Mikey the Rangers team bus driver....

Are we likely to see Mikey the Rangers team bus driver wheeled out to explain why.....

He did not award a penalty against David Weir...
He disallowed a perfectly good goal for UTD.....
He did not send off Koooosan for his head butt....

I doubt we will....Mikey will probably be wheeled back into the cupboard and brought back out by the SFA the next time Rangers need a favour...

Rangers want the UTD game postponed....the SPL say no...the SFA appoint Mikey?....

Marginal decisions happen for and against all teams....funny how the Rangers lads are desperatly using marginal decisions to try and balance the books in relation to the outrageous decisions that took place at Ibrox....

Mikey has had the biggest influence on the league this season....

Mikey has officiated more Rangers games than any other official....each game has had a contoversial decision and each one has been in favour of Rangers....

Mikey has officiated 4 Celtic games....and we have won 1 due to an own goal....not one contoversial decision went in our direction...

Coincidence.....I think not

If Craig Levein honestly believes Mikey has been dishonest...then he has every right to say so....

It's interesting that the Rangers lads want Craig to shut up and just quietly disappear hoping everybody forgets what Mikey did!
45

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12/05/2008 11:04:51
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DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 11:05:09
I see Zenit had a friendly with AZ in Holland. They wer 2-0 down until just before half-time and then had to bring on their top-scorer (not eligable for Manchester) to get the draw.

What does that mean? They tanked the Gerries (no pun intended) and underperform against Alkmaar? Hope they don't find their form before Wednesday! Our lads will be well up for it and the sight of the red, white and blue army from Glasgow to Manchester will surely give them the required boost...I hope.

I have to say, I've been habitiously negative about the European games all season and the Teddy Bears keep grinding out the impossible. Well done, again and whatever happens, win or lose, you have my gratitude for making this a memorable season. Let's make it a historic one, eh? C'mon the Manchester Magics!
47

The best-Rangers,

12/05/2008 11:06:49
GIRUY Paulmac.

How are Mr McCurry's windows this morning? No breakages reported in the press, he wanted to keep it quiet in case it encourages other celtc fans, who have a rep for this sort of thing, from doing it again.

His family were, luckily, out of the living room.
48

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:08:07
71
Answer the question in post 28 or you are talking tae yourself cos no one else cares what you say as you have no credibility ! Go on face the truth and grasp reason ! You can do it !
49

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 11:10:35
#67

Must be a Rangers fan eh?

Tube
50

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S.....Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 11:11:03
For example,Linford Christie was only caught and exposed as a drugs cheat once,putting question marks on ALL his athletic "achievements",and rightly so.

Rearrangers F.C. have been proven to be in receipt of RefsUndueInfluences umpteen times THIS season ALONE.

The case against Rearrangers F.C. is irrefutable.

51

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 11:11:27
@71

You could replace that entire dialogue with details from the recent Celtic / Aberdeen game and have the exact same arguement.

What is your point?

Saying often enough doesn't make it true!
52

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:11:34
77
Sorry mate only got snickers left 1
53

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 11:12:11
Hope Mike McCurry enjoys his hospitality package to the UEFA cup final. What a disgrace. There's always a couple of dodgy decisions but those were laughable.
what a huge, massive club Rangers are eh? 30,000 at the game with Dundee. Wow. You are the people - of low income, social ineptitude and limited brain capacity.
54

Flower of Scotland,

Glasgow 12/05/2008 11:13:06
#72.... You wont have McCurry to help you in this one. There are no orange or masonic handshakes in the European ref. scene,only here in backward sectarian Scotland.Rangers are on their own in this one and all decent football fans wish justice to be done,that means Rangers getting a thrashing.
55

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:15:37
78
By refusing tae answer a perfectly reasonable question on a football forum you are showing yourself up as being unable tae reason and therefore unable tae debate ! Your comments are invisible tae anyone wae the ability tae read !
56

Flower of Scotland,

Glasgow 12/05/2008 11:16:49
Glasgow Rangers, the most corrupt and sectarian club in the world. The SFA are bedfellows of this corrupt club.Indeed this is Scotland's shame!
57

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 12/05/2008 11:16:50
3 74 bto
do you think that paulmac could be idee's barsteward son?
i do
but then again to accept that would mean that you acknowledge that idee has a life
58

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 11:17:39
@83

Flower of Scotland? How welcome are you at PH?

Does winning the UEFA Cup then put you straight. If there is no conspiracy in Europe, as you argue, then it is quite an achievment getting to the final is it not?

Will you retract your hatred and conspiracy paranoia when Rangers lift the Cup on Wednesday night?

Didn't think so.
59

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:17:40
82 &83
Any of you two fancy answering post 28 ? Take your time !
60

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 11:19:53
#76

Hang on lads.....Margaret has just responded.....

Lets have a wee read of his response...at 76...

Oh dear.....is that it?....You ask for debate and come back with that tripe?

Spanner
61

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:21:03
87 Doug
Nothing will alter their hate of Rangers not the truth not facts not humiliation ! More chance of a reasoned debate wae Osama Bin Laden ! I`n serious !
62

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 11:21:24
your blind to the truth fagnet.
63

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 12/05/2008 11:21:29
# 85 weeed of oirland
no no no my bhoy
for us bears "scotland's hame"
unfortunately you bhoys do not belong in that category
so
you are "scotland's shame"
64

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 11:21:41
#77

Hang on a weee momento.....you're the very person who told us Mikey was the driver?

Do you mean to say.....you've been telling fibs?

65

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:22:27
I`m *
66

Flower of Scotland,

Glasgow 12/05/2008 11:23:16
#87 Rangers wont lift this second rate European trophy. Rangers will never be able to emulate the first Scots-Irish club to lift the REAL European trophy.THE EUROPEAN CUP! Who is that great club you may ask? Answer...... CELTIC CELTIC CELTIC Champions of EUROPE!
67

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:24:16
92
Another serial denier ! Go lie down bhoy ! Or you could answer the question in post 28 !
68

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 11:25:15
#80

REALLY.....give it a go.....or are you just making a vague comment as usual in the hope it muddies the water?

And if you deny it often enough....it might not have happened....

Oh and BTO don't go drinking muddy water....ok!
69

Magnet,

12/05/2008 11:26:49
These idiots have been well and truly hung out tae dry ! Maybe a wee article about the serial deniers inability tae reason or debate ! Thanks Scotsman !
70

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 11:27:59
@96

lol....Champions of where? You're not serious. You are aren't you....lol!

Scots-Irish Club? I'll take a wild guess and say you're probably right...never, ever will a another Scots-Irish club lift the European Trophy...you're bang on the button there, well done!

Wasn't such a second-rate trophy in 2003 was it? If you think it was then you're outnumbered 80,000 to 1 if you only count Celtic supporters.
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Mayo'smasonblue,

SouthLincs 12/05/2008 11:29:36
#64
Cheers broke my cherry!
Big hang ups on here over the old age problem of hate between the OF, don't mind this I think the hate/rivalry, call it what you like can be good for the soul dependant on how far you go. It's the positives from supporting your team that should always outweigh your disdain for your rivals. Back to other points, over the years I've seen terrible decisions given aginst and for almost every team in the world, this paranoid interest in corruption is way over the top! Take the good with the bad, your a long time dead so don't get overly excited.
72

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 11:29:57
#84

Invisible to every one except you ya plum....

Another pointless post from Margaret!

Keep em coming!

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DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 11:32:23
@101

Very true M8! I've seen some real howlers from referees. Brazil is unbelievable for it...probably the worst referees in the world!
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Flower of Scotland,

Glasgow 12/05/2008 11:32:42
#93 "Scotlands hame"........Haaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaaa Haaaaaaa Thats why at sectarian central all you plastic Englishmen sing English war songs,sing in praise of your English queen,Wave English flags denounce the Scottish national anthem and throw in the anti Catholic hate songs.Oh! and what about the Irish songs that you sing? The sash and Derry's walls.I just know that the real English people will be breaking their hearts laughing at you lot when you infest their country this week.Being subservient to your English masters is going to give them a good laugh. Haaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaa Haaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa,Am awa fir ma cup o tea! See you buns later.
75

Iain Bhern,

12/05/2008 11:34:50
bring them on, re your ealier post. Neither Rangers nor Dundee were the first Scottsih team in Europe. That honour goes to Hibs who were the first British club in Europe when they reached the semis of the first European Cup in 1956. Consequently they also hold the record for the first player to score a European goal on foreign soil and the first to do likewise in the U.K. Chelsea were also invited to take part but the then short sighted F.A. would not grant them permission to enter.
76

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 11:37:50
The penalty was dubious? Weir's right leg went straight into his thigh. He run right across him. Definite penalty. Red card.

He ran across him for the goal ruled offside? hahaha. You know nothing about football. That's probably why you find Rangers entertaining. Hope you get hammered on Wdnesday. A victory for football is needed.
77

paulmac,

surrey 12/05/2008 11:38:44
#89

Your obsession with ma wife is a tad concerning.....

Have you been off the saddle for a while....I guess that's why your on here 24 hours a day...

You would think Holland would be the perfect place to get back on that saddle....

Is it true you go for the Hattie Jaques type?
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Mayo'smasonblue,

SouthLincs 12/05/2008 11:39:01
You see!, I am new to this, by the time I did my one fingered, no connection to the fingering mccurry gate incident, second post ever, you've rattled on to new and enterprising subjects!! Sorry my mistake same old cr@p, interesting statement that Celtic are an irish club from flowered in scotland?
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Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S.....Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 11:45:06
After Saturdays Soccer Shocker,Rearrangers F.C. are not going to Engerlund.

They are being chased out Scotland.
Aren`t they.
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Iain Bhern,

12/05/2008 11:46:41
#110 No idea I'm afraid as I was only four at the time. The name Harry Shaw rings a vague bell but don't quote me on it.
81

AJ Fife,

12/05/2008 11:46:55
#70,

Rangers, Portsmouth and Dundee!
82

AJ Fife,

12/05/2008 11:54:25
#119,

Shocking lack of knowledge - typical Rangers supporter eh?!
83

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 11:54:27
A decent performance by the Gers to collect 3 points in the lead up to the UEFA Cup final.

Neither the Gers and tic supporters can deny we have been helped in our points total by dubious decisions by match officials in the last wee while. Both sides!!!

Now it on to a European final with hopes that the Gers can be the first Scottish side to lift the trophy and bring it back to Scotland.

I would hope the entire country is behind the team with their good wishes and support. lol
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Iain Bhern,

12/05/2008 11:57:28
Shankly might have taken 'a' team on a tour in Europe but he didn't manage Hibs until after Jock Stein went to Celtic from Hibs. Hibs are certainly the first British side to play in an accredited UEFA tournament.
85

AJ Fife,

12/05/2008 11:58:31
#122,

It was a result pre-determined at the Govan Lodge No 155 last August!
Hardly a surprise.....
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Mayo'smasonblue,

SouthLincs 12/05/2008 11:58:42
I see the old sectarian card has been played, rubbish hand if you need to play that old one. Seems people never learn, what happened to the old adage "live & learn". I have also read certain people claiming they and their ancestors from Ireland have suffered institutionalised secterianism, oh I love an "ism" since imigrating to these shores, well I've never sufferd from that problem. Don't get me wrong, I would never return to live in Scotland, weathers p1ss, but I still feel patriotic to scotland in the sporting arena. I hate English football, international level, with a passion, almost as much as I hate the tic, but that is the beauty of the game, it's sport it does not pay the bills enjoy it, good and bad and indifferent.
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Daillyman,

12/05/2008 12:00:48
123 Dark Horse

I cannot go, just had surgery last week, but my mate is flying over tonight and he has 2 tickets.

I shall be watching the match in the Rangers supporters club in Bramalea Ontario.

www.bramalearangersclub.com

check out the website and club pictures
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Iain Bhern,

12/05/2008 12:01:02
#122 that's true some really dubious decisions. I've no gripe with either of our sending offs on Saturday but I'm mystified as to why Celtic didn't get a penalty when Murray climbed all over one of your players, can't recall who! Also why JVH wasn't booked for smacking Hogg in the mouth with his arm. Dangerous play, nothing else and why Hartley wasn't sent off for a second bookable offence, not even spoken to!
89

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 12:07:52
130 BTO

Shankly took over the Hibs in 1965
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Mayo'smasonblue,

SouthLincs 12/05/2008 12:07:57
#129
Dark Horse, I support the Gers, have done since birth.
I will be in Manchester, no ticket but there to see us lift our second euro trophy.
One needs to think before they post.
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Daillyman,

12/05/2008 12:09:46
132 BTO

I believe Dundee reached the semi's of the EC in 62- 63 season losing 5-1 to AC milan.
92

Publilius Syrus,

S.W.A.L.L.Y.Sir WantawayAbsenteeLandLord?Yes !!! 12/05/2008 12:12:48
So Saracens Rugger team are playing on Wednesday night.

Has Sir Wantaway decided which game he`ll be attending.
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Mayo'smasonblue,

SoyhLincs 12/05/2008 12:18:12
#136
It's my belief that "not trying as we've nothing to play for" and pissed off at Rangers will not come into it. The ref made the bad shout no rangers. It is not easy to go out and not play, integrity, which you tic fans are big on, would be brought into question. I believe that DU will give you a game and if you win then fair enough, but you still need the gers to drop points elsewhere or its alll for nothing, as I think it will be.
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dangleberries,

hangin' aboot 12/05/2008 12:20:53
Good luck to the Gers on wednesday. It would be nice to have the set of European trophies in Scotland at last. We failed in our attempt in Sevilla now it's your turn...
All sorts of comments about yer style of play and tactics have been made over the duration of yer run tae the final.Yer there,enjoy it and bring it back for Scotland.

Hail Hail
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Barney Rubble,

12/05/2008 12:21:12
It always intrigues me the amount of airtime given to contentious decisions that favour Rangers compared to those favouring Celtic. At the time I though it was a pen, and seeing it on TV, it was. And a red card. That may have cost Rangers 2 points. Emphasis on MAY, as Rangers were still ahead. Lets not forget that officials have handed Celtic 8 points in recent weeks with 'wrong' decisions...was that cheating?

What I do not recall, is Levein or Lorraine Kelly or the 'sellick minded' on here being so disgusted by the the WRONG decision to disallow a Daniel Cousin goal at Tannadice earlier this season. This would have put Rangers 1 up and would have resulted in a 2-2 draw at best for the Terrors. Come on Craig and Lorraine...did that official 'bottle' it.

I also don't remember Walter Smith accusing the officials if cheating that day.
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Daillyman,

12/05/2008 12:21:16
138 DH

Good joke, I think we should hand out a slinky to everyone who shows up at the match. There should be couple of hundred in the club. It will be a long joyous day.
97

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 12:22:47
142

Well done, classy post.
98

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 12:28:24
Great news for tic supporters Graveson headed back to Parkhead this summer. lol
99

The best-Rangers,

12/05/2008 12:32:42
#103. 8000 celtc fans in barca, 2 arrests and 60 fines.
20,000 Rangers fans in barca, 0 arrests and 0 fines.

GIRUY
100

The best-Rangers,

12/05/2008 12:35:56
Barney Rubble, don't confuse timmy with facts please. You'll pop his 'delusion bubble.'
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wayne bijlyeerheid,

12/05/2008 12:38:42
The usual bitter bigots are hurting.
paulmac, ideefixe and ajfife, three wee mopes, three wee dopes.
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The best-Rangers,

12/05/2008 12:45:34
bring them on, your away on your own planet by the sounds of it.

Will you be supporting the Scottish team on Wednesday night? (awaits racist response thinly veiled as just being anti Rangers)
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Mayo'smasonblue,

SouthLincs 12/05/2008 12:55:30
Well boys, the nerves are kicking in, no long now to the final.
I love and hate the build up's to these big events, the guts jumping, either that or the tape worms hungry. The wife is already preparing to move out as I become unbarable to be around, can't focus on anything else except the gers. Daft, but when you love a team you loss some reason. I think we will win, tight game and I fancy we will be a bit more expansive, I see Novo wide right supporting JCD and McC on the left, Davis, Thomson, Ferguson middle and the steel wall behind.
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Mayo'smasonblue,

12/05/2008 13:06:57
#157
I know, goes against all logic daft as I said.

The jobs ok, understanding firm. The wife does'nt get it either, football I mean. Hate cats but the dog's nervy, no not that way! Still can't wait should be a great occasion. Win or loss will be back to a normal human being next day.
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Honest,

12/05/2008 13:13:23
156 - Like your thinking but think Adam will play for the first half in the position that should rightfully be Novo's, think WS will want a bit of strength off the ball and Novo's runs will see him out of position allowing Ricksen too much room to come forward.
Its not what I want but watch this space.
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Honest,

12/05/2008 13:15:18
Win? don't think I'll be normal til next year!
mon the Gers, see you in Manchester.
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Honest,

12/05/2008 13:23:34
Just a point Id like to make - Rangers had 2 good penalty claims against Motherwell, we won the game so no one talks about them, Celtic beat us by a goal, an offside goal, and the only reason they may still have a chance.
Ranger have played some very attractive footbal in the past few games, cant wait for the transfer market to re-open, walter will sign some class, strachan will try to copy walters methodology of this season and sign solid defensive players, only probelm is he wouldn't know one if one slapped him across the face.
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NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 13:23:59
post 28 - McCurry admits he was wrong so that just leaves you and your blue tinted glasses claiming the decisions were dubious. I hope the ref gives a dodgy decision in favour of Zenit on Wednesday. What goes around...
109

Busymale,

12/05/2008 13:30:17
Everyone knows Celtic carried their fair share of luck this season but this doesn't detract that the Reverand McCurry is nothing but a cheat. He went our to ensure Rangers were to win that match. There have been too many occasions he has made dishonest pro Rangers decisions and its about time they put an end to his career.
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Mayo'smasonblue,

12/05/2008 13:37:21
Open top bus parades, don't do it for me. If they loose they could get pi55hed on for a second time. Win it, bring it home and parade it at the every game until the end of the season, should give a lift to the tired legs.
Arrests in Manchester? we should'nt take our eye off the ball here, lots of empty houses in Glasgow, WGS and his crew will be out screwing everything to boost next seasons war chest. You have been warned Glasgow.
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Media 1,

cape town 12/05/2008 13:47:28
The problem with this thread is that people are dragging Rangers into a situation that lies at the door step of the SFA. Rangers won their game at Ibrox against Dundee United because Nacho Novo scored two marvellous goals. Dundee United failed to qualify for Europe because over 38 games they were not good enough to finish 3rd. Anyone who mentions Rangers and cheating are of course harbouring a massive amount of resentment for Scotland's most celebrated club.
What this make shift Rangers team has achieved is unbelievable, and we should all be celebrating their success.
The article above is a good one. It reminds us that Rangers were the first British club to make it to a European final, it reminds us that Rangers are the first Scottish team to reach four European finals and it reminds us how good Scottish football has been over the years. With Rangers four finals, Celtic three, Dundee United one and Aberdeen one, that is 9 finals, no mean achievment for such a small nation.
Let us hope that Rangers lift that trophy and put Glasgow on the map again.
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DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 13:53:37
@163

What is your point? You make no sense whatsoever! Are you claiming McCurry was biased or he made mistakes? Which is it?

How does the referees decision, mistake or (God forbid - traits of paranoia) bais have anything to do with the opinions of Rangers posters here? Who can positively say, unquestionably and without doubt, why the ref got it wrong?

To say that the referees in Scotland are corrupt is an absolutely disgraceful accusation. When you consider the amount of TV cameras on the field of play these days it would take a very corruptable, dishonest and a complete idiot of a human being to deliberately and continueously favor any one team.

More astonishingly is the "squaking" of Celtic fans who are in denial. Of course, only a corrupt SPL could be the reason for a non-achieving Celtic side - right! It amuses me when one of these clowns get through to the phone-in's on the radio and get a reality check. Celtic have benifited in 3 of their last 4 games from dodgy calls from referees....and that's what they are, dodgy. No conspiracy, no bias, just wrong calls from refs in bad positions, wrong interpretations...it happens...EVERYWHERE!!

As the Great Man said, "....get on with it..."
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Bemused and above it all,

12/05/2008 13:55:29
Celtic and the SPL have shown themselves up in their attempt to scupper our chances, many thanks for the Baldrick plan as it seems to have fired us up.
114

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 13:59:34
170 - are you a firkin idiot? do you read anything before rambling on? Post 28 said the penalty decision was dubious. The ref said it was a mistake and should have been a penalty. that's what i posted. How can anyone claim it was dubious apart from a union jack waving anti-football loving cretin?
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NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 14:03:37
and another thing...
How does the referees decisionshould be why does.
bais - bias
corruptable - Corruptible
favou - favour
116

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 14:04:15
@173

Resorting to childish name-calling is the seed of discontent buddy!

Question is, do YOU read anything before answering anything? I'll ask again, so pay attention this time and take your time to fully grasp the context and give a responsible answer...

How does the referees decision, mistake or (God forbid - traits of paranoia) bais have anything to do with the opinions of Rangers posters here? Who can positively say, unquestionably and without doubt, why the ref got it wrong?

That's a 2 part question.

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DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 14:05:37
@174

lol...thanks for the engerlush lesson M8.
118

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S......Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 14:09:02
So Dundee United are to take their grievances of Saturdays debacle to the offices of the SFA.

They and we all know that they are wasting their time.

The only positive thing that can come of that is that Rearrangers upcoming game in Manchester will be nudged off the back pages.
Rearrangers reputation,already at a low ebb across Europe will nosedive particularly with their unenvied reputation of playing style,anti-football.

UEFA will also be acutely aware of the allegations of cheating being levied against Rearrangers and will be waiting on the sidelines hoping they do not have to do the job that the SFA will fail to do.

At least Rearrangers are hitting the headlines across Europe,not for the first time,for all the wrong reasons.

Their is more than one way to skin a cat.
Not half.
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NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 14:09:16
Did i mention why the ref got it wrong? The point is he got it wrong. That was a response to post 28 which claimed the decisions were dubious.

That is the point of these forums isn't it? To counter an opinion with another? To make a point?

Come back when you get the point of these message boards,
120

Media 1,

cape town 12/05/2008 14:19:19
Pube Syris

You are hurting, that is obvious!
Like I said to my brother who is Celtic daft, if Rangers are anti football, then what does that make Celtic?
This season;
Rangers 3 vs Celtic 0
Rangers 1 vs Celtic 0
Celtic 2 vs Rangers 1
Celtic 3 vs Rangers 2

That is Rangers 7 vs Celtic 5 (Anti football appears to be better than whatever it is Celtic are playing)

Scottish Cup, Rangers are in the final, Celtic did not make the semi finals (Anti football appears to be better than this failing to make an impact football approach that Celtic are playing.

Need we even mention the League Cup or Europe?

Rangers have played around 15 games more than Celtic this season and when you consider an entire season is 30 games, you get an idea of just how much better Rangers have been this season.

So its anti football versus no impact football. And anti football is winning~ go figure
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DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 14:19:37
You're obviously correct Nemi - why bother, eh?

I guess the word opinion threw you way out there...never mind.

I'll come back when I can figure it all out then.

Nice chattin' witcha' . . . that's not English BTW.
122

Mayo'smasonblue,

12/05/2008 14:22:41
#177 Pubic Erse,
Every post you make is the same old drivle.
Do you not get tired of the same old song, # 179 even you must get tired of this repetative broken record.
Ref got it wrong in one , lino got the other wrong.
123

Media 1,

cape town 12/05/2008 14:23:28
*correction 38 games
124

Red Dykes,

Highland 12/05/2008 14:23:30
Zander Diamond's "goal" at Parkhead
125

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 14:23:48
see ya Doug. You should have went to a Catholic school. You'd have a better grasp of English and be able to take on other people's points.
126

AJ Fife,

12/05/2008 14:24:39
Does anyone know if the 'sacking' of Manchester has started yet?
127

wayne bijlyeerheid,

12/05/2008 14:26:26
The one eyed hooped bigots have their problems again not only because they are represented by ideefixe and ajfife and that unprejudiced poster, you can tell by his name, nemesis of william.
When the bigots can answer for Zander Diamond's goal being disallowed, MacDonald's offside goal against Falkirk being allowed, Dundee United's penalty claim at porkheid being disallowed, the wrong decisions in their favour, match after match, leading to goals, from a free kick at St Mirren and from a corner at Motherwell, then they can say something about Rangers.

Until then, stew in your hate and prejudice.
128

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 14:26:35
only 56 arrests so far AJ. Mainly public disorder offences.
129

wayne bijlyeerheid,

12/05/2008 14:28:35
Does anyone know when prize bigot ajfife will make a remark about football?
He doesn't seem to know anything about the game and only comes on to post anti-Rangers, anti-Protestant, anti-Scottish posts.
130

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 14:28:50
@183

Mayo...since you're new here, I'll fill you in. When you see thar garbage posted here, skip over it to the net reasonable post....it's the same ol' rubbish from the same poster who has more psuedonym's than could be mentioned here....better known as Idee or John or NN.

Take my word for it, he's the worst of the worst. A bigot on a remove bigotry campaign...go figure!

Watch this space....more drivel from Publilius Syrus is on the way!
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wayne bijlyeerheid,

12/05/2008 14:31:55
Anyone recall how many celtc supporters were arrested in Barcalona for public disorder and sex-pesting?

I remember a figure of about 60 from the Spanish newspapers, but as the "Scottish" press don't like informing on their friends there wasn't much detail available in this country.
132

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S......Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 14:33:01
No.

Dundee United will get nowhere with the SFA,though I can see that by humiliating them and Rearrangers they will gain some satisfaction.

Dundee United need to take a leaf out of Mad (my erse) Vlads book and take Rearrangers kicking and screaming to the offices of UEFA and or FIFA.
Mad Vlad and his rottweiller like legal team made mincemeat of Rearrangers and eventually cost them a fortune in cash and reputation in the eyes of FIFA officials (remember that episode?).

I`m quite sure that Heart of Midlothian and Romanov would give every legal advice and assistance that Dundee United might ask for in their pursuit of a fair and just outcome against Rearrangers F.C.

And look,Dundee Uniteds continuing fight against the outcome of the unjust Rearrangers game is already occupying back page headlines.

Not bad,huh.

Long may it continue.

Scottish Football deserves no less.
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DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 14:34:21
@186

lol....which school did you go to then M8? How old are you? Don't say <20, please, it would take all the fun out of it.

Check that for spelling would ya?
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Mayo'smasonblue,

12/05/2008 14:37:33
Thanks Doug
Will keep it in mind.
Anyway enjoyed my foray into the thread zone, strange place filled way starnge people, so I will probably be back. Always been atracted to the perverse side of life, makes you feel better about yourself.
Off to pack my bags for the wee trip to Manchester, lets hope for a good game and no trouble. Drink and be merry for Thursday we could be champions.
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Media 1,

cape town 12/05/2008 14:37:34
AJ Fife

A sacking of Fife would be good dont ye think!

I mean lets face it, that wee kingdom is a national embarrasment of wanna be Edinburgh folk.

I remember selling a place I had in Donnibristle gardens because I could not entertain the nedish approach to almost everything.

But I dont need to remind you about that!
Dont you wish you were from Edinburgh san? I bet ye do, a ken ye do.
136

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 14:39:20
i wouldn't give personal information out to you. You sound like a right knuckle dragger. Your not one of those paramilitary types are you or a Vanguard bear? They're the lowest of the low that lot!
137

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 14:40:26
AJ 187

Did not take you long.

Be on the alert all farmers in Fife lock the sheep up.
138

Mayo'smasonblue,

12/05/2008 14:40:43
*typo should have said "strange" blast this one fingered typing.
139

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 14:42:04
194

No arrests in Barcelona just ask them.
140

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 14:45:25
203 DH

I think you should be okay, they will be watching "The Bill" they missed it the last time. lol
141

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 14:46:23
@200

rofl....stop it, please! You're killing me...lol.

I'm a what? Paramilitary? vanguard bear? whit are you on aboot?

aaaaarghh...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Classic! Oh my hurting sides.
142

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 14:47:54
I'll be watching "The Bill" t-shirts for sale, cheap only worn once.
143

DougRFC,

Italy 12/05/2008 14:50:57
@208

You can stop that too Daillyman...my smile is big enough.

I'm away before I burst my gut.
144

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 14:53:35
209 Doug

Thats almost a new t-shirt to some. A great deal awaits.
145

TheDandyDon,

12/05/2008 15:30:56
Come oan zenit - you only need a two man defence against fatso upfront. Get intae them. Weir is rubbish and can't run. Broadfoot is terrible. Ferguson only passes sideways. Mcculloch is only good at jumping into players. Novo is p*sh. He thought he could get in the Spanish squad once? hahahahah my sides. Davies is pub league standard.

I predict 4-0 to Zenit. Hopefully.
146

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 16:16:02
211 BTO

Does she charge by the hour or do you get the overnight rate. lol
147

Magnet,

12/05/2008 16:19:08
186
Hypocrite ! Answer post 28 and then maybe you can have an opinion ! Unable tae take on other peoples points ! This from one of the many serial deniers with an inability tae reason !
Comedy Gold ! Go lie down bhoy !
148

Bemused and above it all,

12/05/2008 16:36:17
Pube,
for once there is a bit of truth in your post!
UEFA ARE watching the SPL/SFA, it's really to see what they are going to do about a club with a high profile player and fans who:
1 - continually display open religious bigotry (and I am not talking blessing yourself here, lets face it Albertz, Amato, Amarouso all did at Ibrox)in powderkeg matches displaying a level of planning and premeditation despite repeated warnings.
2 - Intimidate and harrass officials, posting death threats on internet forums to them and those who 'transgress'.
3- throw missiles - Caught anyof them yet? Thought not!
4- Pitch Invasion/Public unrest - AC MIlan? ok never really touched Dida BUT still waiting for an answer as to how he got away with it. Remember the unrest? Planned to try and get a match abandoned! You must remember it, it was the last time we had an OF title decider with a decent kick off time at the weekend!

So you are right UEFA ARE WATCHING, as for who should be worried?
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AJ Fife,

12/05/2008 16:38:38
Does anyone know what wayne bileyerheid weighs? Got to add him to the tonnage charts! He's a mighty whopper, that's for sure!:)
150

forbesy1873,

12/05/2008 17:02:57
Any spare tickets?, six will do!
151

NemesisofWilliam,

12/05/2008 17:11:11
Magnet - idiot. I answered post 28 ya bam. How can you still be blind to the facts after the ref comes out and says he got it wrong? Go lie down chunt
152

RINNO,

SYRACUSE 12/05/2008 18:31:08
IS IT ANY WONDER WHY YOU CELTIC FANS ARE ALWAYS ON ABOUT RANGERS. YOU THE SONS AND GRANDSONS OF A BLACK AND TAN FATHER. NO WONDER YOU FEEL LOST IN SCOTLAND. THANK GOD FOR HENDRY THE 8TH.
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Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S.....Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 18:34:48
Good.

Stephen Thomson CEO of Dundee United has just been interviewed on STV,and the news is good.

Thomson states that United are so incensed by the 5 instances whereby Rearrangers flagrantly broke the rules and regs without being punished will NOT only be sent to the SFA.
United have announced that they are considering legal action,given the weight of proof that they have in their favour.
Thank goodness for LIVE TV coverage.

Very well done Craig Levien.
Very well done Stephen Thomson.

Nearly all Scotland is behind your just cause.
154

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 18:36:46
RINNO,

You dont have to yell when posting try taking the cap lock off, especially when posting drivel.
155

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 18:39:39
224 Idee

He does not have to send any proof, The Rev has admitted his mistakes, much as the referee from another game admitted his.

Referee's are human and do now admit when they have screwed up.
156

Magnet,

12/05/2008 18:41:03
221
No you never ! Now you are lying just tae save you from answering a simple question ! Have Celtic had more favourable decisions than Rangers or any other SPL club this season ! What post number gives your answer ... liar !
157

Chuckle Bhoy,

12/05/2008 18:43:11
226# So McCurry is not only a CHEAT he is a liar too. Mistakes my @rse.........
158

Magnet,

12/05/2008 18:45:35
222
Where is the answers ? You liar ! Post number ? Zero credibility for any Celtic minded posters on here as not one has answered ! Incapable of reasoned debate and afraid of the truth !
159

Chuckle Bhoy,

12/05/2008 18:51:11
227# God forbid Celtic got a corner last week that was never and took couple of replays to prove that it wasnt a corner. What a disgrace ,a bloody corner. How dare we get a corner.

The difference is no replays were needed for the farce that took place down Ibrox way on saturday. Cheating McCurry should be sacked end of story.
160

RINNO,

SYRACUSE 12/05/2008 18:53:05
NO HENDRY THE 8TH WAS THE GUY YOUR CHURCH COULD NOT GET TO BUCKLE UNDER HIS DESK. JUST LIKE ALL YOU DO.
161

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 18:55:00
228 Chuckle Bhoy,

Nothing pleases you does it, the guy had a horrendous match comes out and admits it what would you like done 50 lashes in George's Square, or maybe in the centre circle of Parkhead?

I suppose you have the same point of view on the clown who refereed the tic vs dons match and came out and admitted HE also SCREWED up.
162

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 18:57:57
233 RINNO

Football thread, thank Chr!st, you are not a Rangers supporter, numpty.
163

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 19:02:02
RINNO's team is Motherwell who have qualified for next seasons UEFA Cup, a terrific achievement and not once has he mentioned it.

Sad isn't it.
164

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 19:06:38
239

So the man has made a few mistakes, don't we all.
165

Chuckle Bhoy,

12/05/2008 19:20:33
240# You need to stop calling them mistakes. Pure cheating and you know it.

166

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 19:23:27
James

I don't need to chase links to prove that people make mistakes, and yes mistakes by referee's have helped RFC and Celtic put points on the board at the expense of other clubs in the SPL.

Surely you can admit decisions from officials have at times favoured both OF sides. You don't feel that 50 or 60 thousand screaming supporters may intimidate an official into giving the home side the benefit of the doubt of close decisions?
167

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 19:34:02
242 Chuckle Bhoy

I prefer to say that people do make mistakes, you say they are a cheat.

Now onto Manchester and would it not be great for Scotland and the Gers to win the UEFA Cup and still have a shot at the quadruple.
168

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S.....Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 19:40:35
#224 ChristianDailly

Who said anything about sending any proof anywhere ?

F.F.S.

Dont tell me I`ve been posting on here for the past couple of weeks trying to educate Rearrangers fanz and keeping them up to date with the truth behind the headlines that they dont want to hear so ignore them,and yeez cannae effin read.

Dear dearie me.
Isn`t it.
169

Publilius Syrus,

12/05/2008 19:42:22
`n a cannae count,ChristianDaillys at #226
170

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 19:53:57
246

CL. of United numpty, McCurry has admitted he screwed up so what is the point of sending anything. You don't think the SPL/SFA have game recordings. Go have a sleep.
171

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 19:55:00
245

Thank you.
172

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 20:11:30
James

Keep it going. How many league titles and Scottish Cups have Celtic won in their history, many I am sure.

So much for referee's corruption when you look at the silverware won by Celtic.

Have a nice day and we are hoping for you're support on Wednesday, it could be a great day for Scotland.
173

Pepper Pig,

London today, Manchester tomorrow 12/05/2008 20:24:18
It is a disgrace. Mike McCurry disallowing a perfectly good goal, and ignoring a clear penalty.

Had we had a foreign referee, Rangers would have beaten Celtic 5-0 back in October, and we would be 4 goals better off than the Tims.
174

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S......Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 20:35:26
#248

Where did I say in #224 that CL would be sending anything to anyone,let alone proof.

Do you understand your own posts,never mind mine ?

In your post #226 you infered that I claimed proof would be sent when I said nothing of the kind.

You cannot reasonably claim then that I am the numpty.
Can you.

Sometimes you wonder why you bother,you really do.


Sad.
Isn`t it.
175

scottish turk,

12/05/2008 21:03:34
manchester here i come
176

Flower of Scotland,

Glasgow 12/05/2008 22:04:07
McCurry is just a small cog in the wheel of the orange\masonic mafia which has poisoned Scottish society with bigotry and sectarianism for centuries.As long as our country is held in a stranglehold by these gangsters,Scottish society will remain backward and in the mire.The behaviour of this partisan referee must be understood in the aforementioned context. As a Scot I could not give my support to Rangers on Wednesday,because I believe that they represent all that is bad about the society in which I was born and in which I have lived all my life.
177

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 22:10:20
256 FOS

I hate to burst you're bubble while you go on about the Masonic Order being sectarian and bigoted.

Try doing some homework and you find the statement you made very far from the truth.
178

Daillyman,

12/05/2008 22:19:56
252 James

Does not surprise me that you would not put you're support behind a Scottish team, now if it was Shamrock Rovers in the final that would be a different story no doubt.
179

PatG,

Glasgow 12/05/2008 22:49:58
100k Rangers fans in Manchester. Will be interesting to see what happens if they get beat. Scotlands shame.
180

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S.....Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 23:18:20
Well well well.

Scotsport has just shown the corruption highlights again.
Surprise surprise they showed the penalty/sending off,Dundee uniteds ridiculously chalked off goal,the Kooooh-Saaaahn-The-Nut sending off,and the Alexander yellow card.
Wonders will never cease eh !

That shows how bad the corruption on display was on Saturday.
Not even Scotsport,chaired by Skunk Walker could conceal the stench left behind.

A stench that has follow followed Rearrangers as they scurry away from the furore in Scotland, and seek sanctuary in their beloved Engerlund.

Come on Zenits wee Dick.
Give this tournament back its footballing dignity.
181

forbesy1873,

12/05/2008 23:51:54
Jealousy is a terrible thing Pubes.
182

Publilius Syrus,

.....C.I.S......Corruption Is Successful !!! 12/05/2008 23:59:44


So is referee supported cheating masquerading as talent or ability.




 

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