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Former players sympathise with Boyd's decision to quit Scotland



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Published Date: 14 October 2008
THE reaction of former Scotland players to Kris Boyd's decision to retire from international football while George Burley remains manager is not necessarily as cut and dried as those of Scottish fans, who need little encouragement to brand the Rangers striker a traitor.
A spokesman for the Tartan Army has already described Boyd as "yesterday's man" but Scotland captain Barry Ferguson has spoken up for his Rangers team-mate. "I can understand Boydy being frustrated," he said yesterday. "It's not just me; I think e
veryone knows when he gets on the pitch, nine times out of 10, he is going to score. There is a lot of disappointment and sadness on his part. He just wants to play and obviously he didn't, so he has come to a decision which you have to respect."

Kevin Gallacher, who won 53 caps for Scotland between 1988 and 2001, also expressed sympathy with Boyd's predicament yesterday. The former Dundee United and Blackburn Rovers winger admitted he could empathise too; Gallacher himself pondered walking away from the international team as a starting berth became harder to hold down in the twilight of his career. Unlike the supporters, who cannot fathom how someone might wish to turn down the opportunity to even sit among the substitutes for Scotland, fellow players are more sensitive to the professional frustrations which might build when denied the chance to perform.

"I think you have to look at what he has achieved for his club," said Gallacher. "And on the international scene too he has been fantastic, with seven goals in six starts. We have been looking for a striker like that for God knows how long. You have to keep him happy.

"Against Norway, especially with one of your strikers out, I would personally have thought he would have played. Indeed, if I was him I would have expected to play. When the manager decides to out on another two strikers instead, then questions inevitably rise in your head.

"George (Burley] says he has to establish himself at Rangers. But he has been top goalscorer there. I think George will have to explain it a bit better to him. If he can score goals when coming off the bench for Rangers surely he can do that for Scotland.

"I don't think he has turned his back on Scotland. He wants to play for Scotland. But that's it, he wants to play, and he thinks he deserves to play. Fans will think he has turned his back. But I think he is just trying to get his point across, and this is the only way he can do it."

Gallacher reflected on his own Scotland career, which started with an appearance against Colombia in 1988. It ended 13 years later after coming on as substitute against San Marino, in Craig Brown's last qualifying campaign as manager.

"I would be a liar if I said I never got frustrated," continued Gallacher. "There are times when I wanted to stop playing for the international side. But then I had a quiet word with Craig, and a quiet word with a couple of the players, and think why? Why do I want to finish it. I was fortunate in that I had a good relationship with Craig. That's what held it together. I realised I was getting older. But before that I wouldn't accept it, I couldn't believe I wasn't first choice. You can get a bit petty, but it helps to sit down and talk about it."

Billy Dodds is another who can understand where Boyd is coming from. Dodds was a later starter in the international football, but went on to amass 26 caps. Although he cherished this chance to pull on a Scotland jersey Dodds is alert to Boyd's predicament, and spoke to the player after he had decided to walk away from Burley's regime.

"Kris feels down, but he'll battle back," he said. "He's a strong-minded character, but at this moment he feels that he doesn't want to be with the Scotland squad any more. I can understand his frustration because he's not getting used. If I was there and my goal-ratio was the same as his, I would feel the same. His goal-ratio stands up against anybody, and Scotland were desperate for a goal against Norway, but he didn't get used. He just felt as if he was so far out of the picture."

Arthur Graham, the former Scotland winger, is from another era, and might have been expected to take issue with Boyd's stance. Graham thought he had been robbed of the chance to play for Scotland at all when he, along with four other Scottish team-mates, was handed a life ban by the Scottish Football Association after a nightclub incident in Copenhagen in 1975. This was eventually lifted and he went onto win 11 caps.

"The best honour a Scottish footballer can achieve is playing for your country," he said. "But I can understand Boyd's feelings. He is a striker, and a proven goalscorer. If he is in the squad then you have to throw him on when you need a goal. It is all very well saying he is not playing for the Rangers team. But to have him on the bench and then not put him on, well I can clearly see why the lad is frustrated."



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  • Last Updated: 13 October 2008 11:49 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scotland's football team
 
1

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 00:17:08
"Traitor" is to strong and emotive a word to be bandied at Boyd for his petulance...
A delusion of adequacy allied to the misguided notion that we,the Scotland support, were four square behind him even if he couldnt be bothered to work up a sweat on the training ground in the lead up to this fixture....No one to blame but yourself,Kris..Remember one thing son,when you point a finger,you have three pointing straight back at yourself....(Got that out of a lucky bag/fortune cookie,but seems apt!)
2

Novafone,

14/10/2008 00:19:37
Great. Lets start with 25 players then shall we? Oh hang on, that's not in the rules.

We could always play five strikers and see how we get on?
3

jerrymanders,

14/10/2008 00:21:18
Barry Ferguson is quoted in this article and yet there is no questioning him about his comments yesterday. The Scotland Captain sided with his team mate and not the General in Command!!!! That is surely a bigger story? What were Burley's thoughts on those comments? Come on Alan Patullo I thought you had more balls than that. Also, how many former players did you interview that felt KB was out of order? Let's have some balance please.
4

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 00:32:06
"The Scotland Captain sided with his team mate and not the General in Command!!!!" (#3)

Barry Ferguson backed Burley (see SkySports website) and George Burley said Barry was desperate to get back playing for Scotland (see another article on this site).

It was also interesting to hear ex-Celt John Hartson backing Boyd on Radio Clyde and revealing he did the same thing with Wales when Bobby Gould was in charge.

Burley has made it clear in his selections that he thinks he can do without Boyd anyway. That's his choice of course. But it's not going too well so far....
5

jerrymanders,

14/10/2008 00:57:25
#4

That is your take on it but the article in question does not make that clear. The interview on Sky with Bazza was cringeworthy. I am not Welsh so don't care about mercenaries, they can do what they get paid for. BBJ got handsomely paid for getting it right up many teams, not least yours. However, a Scottish player, 15 caps, 25 years of age, should be bursting at the seams to keep playing. Three of his club managers have admitted his failings and now his Country's Manager has told us what we all knew was coming. Doesn't train well, poor attitude on and off the field, takes the huff easily, is not a team player.
6

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 01:06:52
"That is your take on it but the article in question does not make that clear." (#5)

It was clear to me. Perhaps you should try reading it again.

"I am not Welsh so don't care about mercenaries" (5)

How convenient for you....

"Doesn't train well, poor attitude on and off the field, takes the huff easily, is not a team player." (#5)

No great loss if that's true. Burley clearly doesn't rate him as can be seen from the team selections. So it's up to Burley to do the business with the players he does rate....
7

jerrymanders,

14/10/2008 01:17:45
#6

He has deserted his post when Scotland still needs him. You know it, I know it, we all know it. He had time to get fit for the next game, he had time to score goals to get in the reckoning for the next game, he had time to show his off field attitude had changed, to both of his managers, before the next game, above all he had time to show his team mates and his Nation that he had the drive and will to succeed FOR the next game. He chose to turn his back. He chose to walk away.
8

Jaggy,

14/10/2008 01:25:17
#6

If Scotland needed him they would have played him. Burley has made clear in his remarks that he doesn't need Boyd. So, logically, no-one should have a problem if he is no longer available.
9

Jaggy,

14/10/2008 01:26:53
My post #8 also applies to #7 from jerrymanders
10

Teary Ennui,

14/10/2008 01:28:06
"He has deserted his post when Scotland still needs him" (#7)

Burley doesn't seem to think do, bringing on international rookies ahead of him. And you're making large assumptions/accusations about Boyd. He has proved many times what he can do, which is to score goals - the most vital thing in the game. But Burley has given him very little game time indeed (it's not just about Saturday). Burley obviously rates a fair number of strikers more highly. Well George, it's not really worked for you so far - and that's the big issue....
11

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:35:04
"He deserted his post when needed..."

Boyd Geste?
12

jerrymanders,

14/10/2008 01:38:22
#10

The Campaign aint over. The War is still to be fought, but what does Boydy do? Walk away. He then has the audacity to say that he won't play for his country under this Manager. So he thinks when a new one comes in he can then play for his Nation again? Aye, right. Goodbye Boydy Goodbye.
13

jerrymanders,

14/10/2008 01:40:56
#11

You Stupid Boyd!








Great line though!!!!!
14

Jaggy,

14/10/2008 01:46:41
But Burley is neither logical or consistent. Boyd has scored more goals than Fletcher and Iwelumo have. And, if being a regular starter is the criteria, he has made more starts than Robson.

So, if Burley was giving Boyd that line, I could see why he might be p!ssed off.
15

Swordsman,

Dublin 14/10/2008 01:46:57
Jerry..
Can just imagine Wattie as Sgt Wilson,Sally as Pte Walker,Davie Weir as Pte Godfrey and SDM as Capt Mainwaring....
The laptop loyal ensemble as Pte Frazer...All together now,We're DOOOOOOOOOMMMMEDDD!
16

jerrymanders,

The White Cliffs of Diver 14/10/2008 01:47:19
#9

My admiration also applies to you. Come and join us, don't you know there's a War on?
17

jerrymanders,

Don't panic, don't panic 14/10/2008 01:49:16
#15

That was a bit over "over the top" but I get your drift.
18

arthurscross,

14/10/2008 04:19:36
How can reporters and fans say that Boyd would have taken the missed chance? Remember the 1st game of the season against Falkirk when he had a great chance in front of goal, swung his left foot and missed the ball completely?
Six players have now turned their back on Scotland and 5 of them were Rangers players. Does that tell us anything?
19

Richardinho,

14/10/2008 04:43:10
Rangers are desperate to win the league this year, and so have decided to take a 'holiday' from the national side- no doubt encourage by walter who had no qualms about betraying his country.
20

Gala Doug,

caspian sea 14/10/2008 06:14:40
Ferguson " so he has come to a decision which you have to respect.".......... no you dont !

Gallagher
"There are times when I wanted to stop playing for the international side.
..... no its the other way round, he was desperate to play but was not picked !
I too am mistified with Boyd not being used on Sat but unlike Duncan Ferguson he will not be missed in the longer term.
21

Cappo Del Monte,

14/10/2008 06:43:25
"Former players sympathise with Boyd's decision to quit Scotland"

Rapidly followed by

Barry Ferguson has spoken up for his Rangers team-mate

Hmm, is the hootman trying to imply something lol, although neither would be a great loss, boyd has shown no respect for Burley ( who I dont rate ) or his country. I really hope he never dons the dark blue shirt again
22

123456789,

14/10/2008 07:08:16
Simple facts;

7 goals in 15 games for scotland - Good return
117 goals in the SPL only second to Larsson, (even though he is often a sub)

Boyd can score goals! Simple as that!
We needed a goal on Saturday. Burley should have left Mcfadden on and brought boyd on. Ok so Boyd doesnt run about too much, let Mcfadden do that and set up Boyd to finish. Yet another big tournament goes by us! After the defeat to macedonia and failing to win against norway there is no way in hell we will get a good result against the dutch!

Thanks George!

And lets keep it away from an OF debate. Its scotland, i dont care who plays for the national team as long as they qualify and get the results!
23

Stephen101,

14/10/2008 07:56:58
Why does he not get his game for Rangers if he is that good? Why will Smith have him out the door when the transfer window opens? Why did Le Guen not want to anything to do with him?

Why is he fat, why does he drink so much, why was he caught drunk driving, why can he not run? So typical of so many players who have skills, but not sufficient brain cells to rub together.

Career peaked at 21, downhill from there onwards. Next stop some struggling Championship team, then he'll get homesick, back to somewhere like Livingston.

Aged 30 he will wonder ' why does nobody like me?'.

A sad, sad case.
24

123456789,

14/10/2008 08:12:22
He doesnt get a game because he doesnt do enough running of the ball. you need a goal though? he'll finish!

And lets not start talking about Le Guen era, could be wrong here but i think papac is the only player bought by le Guen who gets a regular game for Rangers. How many times last season was Ferguson outstanding especially in Europe and yet Le guen wanted to get rid of him. PSG, arent exactly setting the french league alight yet under his guidance
25

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

14/10/2008 08:23:59
#24 He'll finish will he? Every time? I seem to recall he missed an absolute sitter for Scotland against Georgia and got pulled off with the sub scoring our winner.
26

123456789,

14/10/2008 08:34:08
i never said every time. Look at his ratio - he has a good return. 2nd all time scorer in SPL, almost 1 in every 2nd appearance for scotland. if he was in the right position he wouldve finished the sitter on saturday!

Im not an OF supporter but Boyd is a good old fashioned striker, not a forward. He doesnt run off the ball but he can find the net. Bottom line thats what we needed on Saturday! not to bring on a new cap and a player with only one cap.
27

aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 09:35:16
R Gough , D Ferguson, A Goram , L McCulloch and now E Boyd. Is there a pattern here? Not to mention W Smith and an A McLeish.
28

aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 09:43:20
Don’t Glasgow Rangers supporters, by their association with the Union Flag at least, have a huge chip on their shoulder about Scotland getting too big for their boots by swaying towards independence from Engerland and feel they need to bring Scotland down ? Don’t Glasgow Celtic supporters have more affiliation with splitting from England because of the Irish history associated with the club?
I only ask because it seems that way.
29

Noods,

14/10/2008 09:47:50
#26

Boyd scored 6 of his 7 goals in his first 5 games meaning he has done sod all in the other 10 games.

He only has 4 goals in 10 competitive matches for Scotland and that is what matters - you don't count his goals in friendlies for Rangers now do you?
30

aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 10:01:48
Will not turning up for an event because you couldn’t care less about it be called a Boydy?? Or will it just be called “ Doing A Rangers” ?
31

common sense voice,

14/10/2008 10:05:53
this happens all the time. Richard Gough should have had a lot more caps, but he never got along with Craig Brown. David Robertson should have had more caps, Roy Aitken a lot less. Dave MacKay more, Asa Hartford less, the list goes on.

I agree with other comments recently, Boyd has got to decide if he wants to put in that bit extra effort like C. Ronaldo does at Man. U or stay a fat prima donna...... maybe his da should tell him he has the rest of his life to drink and play the big man, but the next 6 or 7 years should be treasured. Maybe he just has na got it.. WS is no mug, he'll find him out.

I think drink and laziness probably play their part however.
32

Alan B,

14/10/2008 10:34:24
Burley has only really taken over and has only had 3 competitive games. So Boyd is just being a baby.

Only by doing it on the field at club level can Boyd really command a place in the national team. And he simply has not been doing it well enough for Rangers.

Scotland seems to have far to many players with ego problems.
33

Exasperated,

Guildford 14/10/2008 11:22:06
Rangers players & ther managers (Smith, McLeish)have no loyalty to Scotland, for them it's just a paying job & if they don't get what they want they just walk. I never used to believe that but their behaviour spaks louder than their weasel words. Smith, McLeish et al would obviously rather be anglos than Scots, even publicly stating via video etc their opposition to Scottish political aspirations re self government. Let's hope The Celtic, Dundee United (& I'm a DFC fan...), Hibs lads stick with their country and give us what we want, their absolutely best efforts, loyalty & commitment to the cause. WE can't ask or expect more than that. We need to support Burley & give him a chance, not whinge & moan spinelessly whilst he's trying to get us qualified. It's not all over yet but too many Scots now seem to give up too easily nowadays & look for blame rather than keep fighting to the end.
34

aljok.23,

the world 14/10/2008 12:40:24
Maybe the Rangers players are actually being very stand-up guys by not playing for their country . They could be so ashamed of their supporters that they don’t want to tarnish their beloved national football team with the same brush as their club has been tarnished. Lets give them the benefit of the doubt and encourage David”I’m not going unless you play me”Weir, and Mr Broadfoot to look to their conscience too . A Rangers free national team would be a true national team.
Can you smell fish?
35

frisnit,

Dundee 14/10/2008 14:45:14
I don't have to "respect" Boyd's decision as Barry says, any more than I respect Jeffrey Dahmer's decision to eat people. He's an idiot, an egotistical maniac and foolishly deluded - and Dahmer's nearly as bad :)
36

santa cova,

14/10/2008 15:35:57
These Rangers managers and supporters have been singing rule britannia for so long that they really do now believe that they are English.Thus the lack of respect for Scottish team.
37

santa cova,

14/10/2008 15:38:48
#28 aljok........ the answer to your question is...... Rangers---yes........ Celtic------No!
38

123456789,

14/10/2008 16:02:27
#33 - you telling me if a rival company for your line of work came to you and said we'd give you double or treble what you are on now you wouldnt jump ship?

Mcleaish and Smith left for the money - totally agree but if its 3 or 4 or whatever more who can blame them? who can blame them for wanting every day involvement in football. i Left a company where i sat on the BBC web site for 6 months, got offered more money and actually have work to do,(granted i have spent some time on the scotsman today) and i left the company who had given me a career college etc. International football isnt every day work and unless you work for the english FA (Sven perfect example) the money is appaling compared to SPL Or English PL:or probably even english championship wages.
39

123456789,

14/10/2008 16:04:44
how many of the negative comments come from Rangers supporters? im guessing not many. The problems with these discussion boards are that too many people have issues with RFC, if this was a celtic player leaving the Scotland set up the RFC Supporters would be kicking up a fuss along with the other club supporters. Leave club loyalty out of it!
40

the boxerman,

Toronto 17/10/2008 03:27:51
Boyd should be banned from playing forever. A journeyman walking out on the national team and at such a young age.

Rangers dont rate him and wanted him out the door, but he wanted to stay. He will go down and play in the Championship. After all someone down there was daft enough to pay 3 million for Kenny Miller.

Then he will end up playing out his career at Dunfermiline, just like the likes of Charle Miller, another waster. Mind you Miller had talent.

 

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