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Gordon McKie is braced for 2010 of gloom as SRU faces sternest test yet

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Published Date: 16 December 2009
MAKING Scottish rugby less costly was always going to be a simpler task for a high-flying accountant like Gordon McKie, but the SRU chief executive acknowledged yesterday that making the sport attractive is proving to be much harder than he envisaged it to be.


SRU chief executive Gordon McKie, left, is under no illusions about how difficult a year 2010 promises to be but, with Andy Robinson at the helm, is confident there is also room for optimism. Picture: Ian Rutherford

The recession has bit hard into Scotland and rugby has reverberated to the sounds of cutbacks. McKie likes to provide the media with a briefing at this time of year, often in an obvious attempt to tilt the negativity around results and provide signs of hope in Murrayfield's future. Edinburgh and Glasgow, the professional teams, and Scotland, with their win over Australia, have provided new hope in recent weeks, and he had Andy Robinson, the Scotland coach, alongside him at yesterday's briefing in Edinburgh to further underline the positive feeling developing within the game.

However, he refused to hide from the fact that Scottish rugby is heading for more a more bleak financial picture in 2010, one with Test matches being played with no television coverage nor sponsors. Bank of Scotland Corporate have now gone as autumn Test sponsors and team sponsors Murray, who came on board in 2007 after the withdrawal of The Famous Grouse largely due to the personal friendship between Sir David Murray and McKie, are expected to follow out the exit door next year. BBC TV Scotland's enthusiasm for rugby remains icy cold on the surface with an offer to broadcast the Scotland rugby matches in 2010 so low it compares with rights to show lower-league football. ESPN and Sky are showing no interest, despite the SRU engaging an international media firm to help with negotiations. McKie admitted attempts to court new high- profile sponsors were then hitting a brick wall when the question of what TV coverage any deal might attract is raised.

"We are in the marketplace," McKie said, "but we have not been able to finalise a broadcasting agreement on acceptable commercial or coverage terms. It's an area which is extremely important to us, firstly in terms of finalising our fixtures and, secondly, in terms of being able to tell potential new sponsors where they can watch these games because audience, market share and reach is so important. We're in discussions with BBC, ESPN and Sky, but so far have not been able to conclude anything satisfactory. There has been an indication (from the BBC] of what an offer might be, and we have indicated today that that is unattractive. So, they (autumn Tests] might not be covered at all.

"We are looking at everything. We're working with Argentina to try and influence the kick-off times of the Test matches there next June so that these games don't conflict with football World Cup games from South Africa.

"That all affects sponsorship. We have a sponsor pot that is maturing next year and have much soul-searching to do. Murray's contract is (up] the end of next year and they have a window of exclusivity in which they can indicate whether or not they wish to extend that contract, and until that window expires I have no further comment to wait, but we have started speaking to potential sponsors for the rights to these three (autumn] games, and the first question they ask is 'what channel are they going to be on?' The two are inexplicably linked."

TV companies are also feeling the pinch, but they are naturally swayed by public opinion. The attraction of Scottish rugby is certainly growing in some quarters, with both Glasgow and Edinburgh recording record average crowds over the past two seasons and gearing up for new high attendances at the forthcoming festive derbies. The Calcutta Cup match in March next year is already sold out and tickets for the other home game, against France on Sunday, 7 February, are well up on previous years. However, McKie admitted that Scotland needed more than 100,000 attending the autumn series, as was the case last month with less than 45,000 watching Scotland beat Australia for the first time in 27 years and less than 30,000 at the Fiji and Argentina games.

McKie revealed that the world's top two, New Zealand and South Africa, as well as Samoa will visit Murrayfield next autumn and insisted that the SRU was desperate to persuade clubs to shift league matches off those weekends in a bid to improve the crowd. Only 6,500 tickets were sold by Scottish clubs for last month's series, indicating a malaise through the traditional rugby outlets, and the chief executive defended the decision not to sell tickets on match-day – which cost them when club matches were postponed due to bad weather – by explaining that evidence showed it to be a balance between selling an extra 1,500 tickets, with increased costs, against a potential loss of 10,000 sales.

Underlining how every penny is clearly a hostage in the current financial situation, he said: "We sold 100,000 tickets for all three games in November, and 93,500 turned up, so had those 6,500 not paid in advance that would have been £100,000 we would not have taken, so we have more to lose than gain by changing the policy.

"The truth is that the incremental audience who waken up on a Saturday morning and decide they want to go along to Murrayfield is extremely low."

McKie has been credited with slashing SRU debt by around £10m to under £16m in the past four years, but that is now being viewed as the easy bit – bringing in the money to sustain professional rugby in Scotland is proving to be a whole lot more challenging.



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  • Last Updated: 16 December 2009 10:47 AM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Six Nations
 
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16/12/2009 00:28:37
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Colt,

16/12/2009 00:52:01
Everyone knows the way you cut debt is by reorganising how you pay those debts and by cutting costs. Any accountant worth his salt can do that. The challenge is how you build from there and most accountants have not got a clue as McKie is proving.

Imagine the CEO of a real business standing up and saying no-one wants his product like McKie is saying here, but that that is not his fault it is the fault of those nasty TV companies who don't send him blank cheques or the fault of his previous customers who now do not realise they are morally obliged to come and see his teams, buy the shirts etc. Proper shareholders in a proper business would send their CEO packing.

McKie is the SRU to a great extent. a control freak who has never shown any ability to make a success of his role. Mr Hard Man slashing salaries and cutting costs but totally clueless in terms of his core business. His regime has divorced the club game from the pro and international game and now he seems to complain only a few thousand tickets are bought by club members. McKie has not noticed that no one goes to club games any more outside the Border strongholds and possibly Ayr at present. If every single person at a Premiership game in or close to Edinburgh on Autumn International weekends went to Murrayfield it would be a sum total of around 5,000 people. This perception that the crowds are standing on the touchline at Myreside or Malleny is a complete fallacy.

When the free tickets are given away for the city game at Christmas there will still only be 12000 or so there. Where exactly are the thousands of fans McKie thinks still exist? If he had shown the slightest interest in them previously he may have known the answer but as it is he proves day after day he has no idea how to get us out of the decline we are in.

Selling tickets to Englishmen who cannot get a ticket for Twickenham helps the bank balance but it does little to build a brand or a meaningful product outside that one afternoon
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leemagee,

Perth 16/12/2009 03:40:25
Same old story I'm afraid...the SRU need to remember the old saying that 'you have to spend money to make money'. If the SRU invested another 200k in each of the pro teams in order to bring in a big named player and some young talent then, in 5 years they would have increased the debt by a total of 1 million. If they brought in the right players, there is every chance that one of the teams would make the second stages of the HC once or twice within that time. Imagine the extra money the SRU would make if Edinburgh/Glasgow started competing at the latter stages regularly. Crowd numbers would go up, television rights would bring in cash, and more big named players would look at the possibility of coming to Scotland. Some may say that this would mean less young scots coming through if foreigners started playing in Scotland, and I will agree as soon as someone tells me of a team that won the HC without a foreign player on their books.
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Millbrae,

16/12/2009 07:26:00
The lack of strategic nous probably compares with the choice of venue for the only home club international.

If you examine the facts:

1: majority of players come from clubs a fair distance from Gala so their home club supporters will be discouraged from making that long trek

2: how many of the fans for the full international will make the additional trip to Gala

Yes, I would drive from Ayr to Edinburgh, or for that matter Glasgow or Perth or, at the real fringes, Dundee to watch the match. But sorry guys, not across country to Gala & back.

This epitomises the SRU's failure to see us as customers. The days of 100,000 plus supporters cramming the terraces are lost forever.

Until we are seen as customers, consulted like customers, & given a total product that we wish to buy & until the SRU appreciates this, we will struggle for bums on seats, sponsors & healthy TV bids.
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Sun City,

16/12/2009 08:44:34
Plan A = cut costs, cut costs more and depend on sponsorship from cronies.

Plan B ???

Accountants and so-called "hard men" do not have the vision to build business or to invest in selling their core product and big Gordon and his lapdog are no exceptions.

Taxi.............
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J.A.,

16/12/2009 09:09:07
#2 Colt: well said!!

#4 Millbrae, what on earth are you talking about.
We’ve tried holding matches at Perth and Dundee and only a handful turned up. It’s great that the SRU have now buried the hatchet and are holding some representative matches in the Borders. Players perform far better in front of 4000 which Netherdale housed at the recent Tonga game than they will in front of a few hundred a football ground.


For your information you will probably find that the majority of players come from no more than 35miles from Gala!!
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J.A.,

16/12/2009 09:19:17
Millbrae

You may be surprised to know that it's a shorter drive from Ayr to Gala than it is to Dundee and if you choose to go via M77, M8 , A7 its about the same.

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Cathcart Boy,

London 16/12/2009 09:44:17
#2 Colt I wholly agree.
When McKie chopped the Supporters Club I wonder how many automatic ticket purchases he lost - my family had three memberships and always bought the maximum allocation, home and away. A scrambled win over Australia aside, and all credit for that result, the product on offer has been dire, matched by a string of announcements from the self-serving McKie and his cronies. My interest in the club game is revived, but it will be a long time before I am back at Murrayfield - not until after McKie's departure, long or short time away.
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King Tut,

Castle tower 16/12/2009 09:56:42
Millbrae! You’re Clueless!! Nobody in their right mind wants to go to dreak dark Glasgow or Dundee to watch Rugby maybe @ Celtic v Rangers game but not rugby.

Your NZ/Scottish side is maybe riding a wee crest at the moment until the money runs out but at the end of the day even after all you’re bought in success you still get nobody watching your games compared to the likes of Gala & Hawick who are in prem 2.

Last years Club International was in Edinburgh with a similar squad but did you turn out in your Hundreds??? NO! The crowd was 2000 if you’re lucky and the squad was featuring many Ayr and Edinburgh players.

This year there are a third of the squad from the Borders so maybe its time for the Borders rugby public to show you fitbaw playing girls what rugby crowds are all about!!

The Borders will blow that figure away this year for sure and after the Scotland A game crowd of 4000 your argument about crowd numbers and interest in the Borders has been blown away!




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Egg Chasing Ape,

16/12/2009 10:16:05

Just like the club allocation has been decimated by the ridiculous system that bases what member clubs get on their previous Italy sales!!!! I'm sorry, we are not your marketing department, sell your own bl00dy tickets! My club has already asked the SRU if we can forego our commission arrangement and just go back to getting the match tickets that our members actually require, but of course this can't be done, no, no,no! And they wonder why they can't fill the stadium!

All ticket commision has done is allow the clubs to sell less popular tickets on their behalf and to have a strangle hold on the entire system, when guaranteed match tickets used to be the biggest bonus of being a rugby club member.
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forestry,

16/12/2009 10:42:13
I find it incredible that the BBC are happy to fund a Mickey Mouse Gaelic Channel, Buy 100s of thousands of trees to help beat a tree planting record and yet are unable to come up with an acceptable coverage package.
I wonder what would happen if this happened in Wales.
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J.A.,

16/12/2009 11:20:10
#11 forestry

BBC Scotland is a Glasgow channel and cannot see beyond football or should I say Celtic and Rangers.
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big rugby fan,

Central 16/12/2009 12:25:18
Sorry No.10 I think we are the marketing department for our game - we all need to support rugby. Once again it's too easy for people to duck out of their responsibilities, hardly McKie's fault.

I don't agree with everything that goes on at Murrayfield particularly since some officials don't really understand the real reason as to why folk don't turn up for internationals or pro games. It is because your average club member feels separated from it. Put the two back together and the problem will be solved. That's not an opportunity for lackadaisical clubs to benefit mind we all need to be working much harder to keep rugby on the go and develop our sport, including selling tickets for internationals.

I'm no expert but does any other club in the country match the Ayr crowd statistics, anytime I've been along it's busy?
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La barrière de Senlis,

France 16/12/2009 12:44:06
Just one comment from a French guy (not defending especially SRU),

Some years ago ticket prices were too deer,
This year ticket prices from a TENER!!!
I was at the game V Australia with French folks, it was great, the same seat in Stade de France, France V Samoa was 53 Euros!

A real shame to have so poor crowds...

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Uninterested Spectator,

16/12/2009 12:54:37
A few very interesting and suprising points made.

Firstly McKee was hired to reduce the debt, the SRU was in negative equity with Murryfield its only real asset. To reduce the debt by £10m when you look at the income stream the sru have then true credit must be given. Too many people seem to be under the impression that there is a bottomless pit of cash and have this new labour philosophy of spend, spend, spend which is why so many people in scotland have the personal debt they will never be realistically able to pay off.

Secondly games in recent years have gone to aberdeen (canada) and perth (japan) and been sold out. There are people in those areas of the country who would love a pro team and quite a few others who would be interested in making a financial investment on one. When Tonga played Scotland A in Gala a few weeks ago the crowd was under 2000, whether it was the bad weather or the fact borderes prefer badger bating, whipet racing or cousin grooming i don't know.

Lastly regarding tv and sponsorship its a catch 22, no tv company or sponsor will touch a product that has an image problem. STV and the BBC have no interest, if its not old firm based then they don't care which is the problem with having national broadcasters based in a city and employing people from that population who are inward looking. Celtic league games should be sold in packages by the celtic league not the individual associations. Internationals are valable to broadcasters but empty stadiums are not.

The pro teams should play on Saturdays (unless expressly requested by a broadcaster) with club games starting @ 1pm and pro games between 4-5pm. Market the club games, market the pro team fixtures. People will only attend games if they know when they are on and how much they cost.
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HZ,

16/12/2009 13:02:43
Not surprised at all at the lack of progress from the SRU and their 'if at first you don't succeed, disappear back into your buckie and don't emerge again for another 3 years' approach. Have they just given up on outside investment for the pro teams after they failed so dramatically to complete due diligence and investigation of the last entirely unsuitable purchaser?

I am surprised however that ticket sales are up for the France match. The new ticketing system is abhorrent. If I'm to spend £70 on a ticket, I want to know where that seat will be not take pot luck on an allocation that can produce drastically different results in both view and atmosphere. I simply will not buy a ticket at all under that system.

I and around 10/12 friends regularly go to Scotland games (always Cat 1 tickets), Edinburgh games, both days of the 7s and some A, age grade games, club games, etc. often taking other friends or younger relatives with us. With all the additional spend from programs, food and drink, merchandising, etc. that probably averages around £1,000 each per year spent directly with the SRU and its operators. Unless there's a late release of Cat 1 tickets with defined seat allocations, this season's six nations will be the first time in over 10 years that NONE of us have attended a home international. Yet, no doubt the SRU will expect us to keep coming back and handing over our cash for the less prestigious games in a half empty stadium. For the first time, I'm not so sure we all will – loyalty has to work both ways.

But, on the other hand, I’m sure the scalpers, touts and ebayers love this system and will make a killing once their tickets are issued.
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Rootin-tootin,

Tranent 16/12/2009 13:13:49
Biggest problem is that the majority of games are not entertaining.
The rule makers have got it badly wrong.
Too many games dictated by penalty kicks.
Good example. Munster beat Perpignan with 8 kicks against 3 tries. Not right.
Probably find that some of the penalty decisions were wrong or for minor technical offences. Penalty kicks stop the game from flowing.
Each kick probably takes 90 seconds, in all. Average it out in a normal game and you realise that about a quarter of time is used up in this way. Meanwhile I yawn.
Internaltional directive required to stop aerial ping-pong. Get these useless , negative, uninspiring coaches sorted out. Apart from the one in England.
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Colt,

16/12/2009 13:17:43
#15 quite apart from pathetic comments about the Borders check your facts. There were almost 4000 people at Scotland A v Tonga. The "sell-out" crowds in Perth and Aberdeen were for full international fixtures and are no comparison to an A team game. Last A team fixtures in the likes of Perth or Stirling got less than 2000 spectators so check before you spout nonsense.

McKie is not the Finance Director - he has wider responsibilities so if Scottish Rugby has a poor image that is partly his fault and given he is the top man, his responsibility. What is he doing to sort that? Telling the world he cant sell his product is not going to improve that image.

And if you think having club games at 1 and pro games at 4 will make any significant difference to crowds at pro games then you need to tell us how many additional spectators that will provide. Precious few I imagine because the crowds at pro games when there are no club matches are no different to when they clash.

Would be worth looking at the number of rugby club members in Scotland today compared with 10 years ago. Every club treasurer would be able to provide that info and it would demonstrate the sad demise of our sport in this country. A demise that continues apace when SRU are in denial about the facts and have a CEO who has no clue what to do about it.
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J.A.,

16/12/2009 13:47:23
#15
Get your facts right before you start all your bull sh*t .
Under 2000 at Scotalnd A Tonga game …………you wish. Try doubling that figure.
Also since the Scot v Japan at Perth which was a full international, there have been a few lesser internationals held there with crowds of around 1000.

I am very much in favor of representative matches being played in areas who do not have a pro team, however, don’t start mouthing off just because the borders are getting a fair and well overdue slice of the cake!!
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Middlemarch,

16/12/2009 16:58:51

15 et al
Sorry I am lost where does Gala come into all of this?

I do know there was 4,000+ at the tonga game.
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THE DREADED SILVER CROC,

Cruising the bank account billabong 16/12/2009 17:02:22
So!!! That ghastly four-eyed baldy has begun to run out of excuses, time and personal credibility. And dosh to fund his mammoth monthly take-home beano package.

At the last count, the grisly oik was plundering the depleted Murrayfield coffers to the tune of £250,000 or thereabouts per annum - probably closer to £300,000 nowadays. That's the sort of remuneration earned by successful professional managers! Incidentally, the DSC can inform fellow bloggers that one Gordon McKie's previous highly-paid position resulted in the corporate collapse and bankruptcy of the company he had been appointed to "turn round". He certainly turned things round - such a pity it was in totally the wrong direction!

The DSC loves to get his snout in the trough on occasion, but you ain't seen nuthin' until you catch a glimpse of the (un?)professional SRU bufties in full flow. According to several trough-swillers of yore, getting high on the copious heaps of food, drink, largesse, OTT expenses and astronomical salaries helps one to forget the unmanageable mountain of debt incurred while these dubious individuals have been filling their rancid boots.

Might be useful to consider soon the role of SRU chairman Allan Munro. Plenty of authenticated dirt to throw around there......
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luckyrugger,

16/12/2009 18:35:19
#18 and #19

4000 people who didn't have to pay a penny, we should add.
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Slasher McGurk,

16/12/2009 19:13:18
king tut- there is no doubt that the borders used to be the rugby area in scotland with a cracking history, buts thats what it is now, history, because the borders rugby scene is not what it used to be. the borders hopsitality, that i experienced so often has also dissapeared, i assume caused by small minded, borders against the world attitude, like yours. Its a shame that we cant be Scotland against the world! but hey ho, atleast we will never have to share a pint!
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Boroughmuir Stew,

16/12/2009 20:09:01
#23 I think you'll find the hospitality is probably still there for most people it's just that you're a little bit of a t**t!
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Millbrae,

16/12/2009 21:42:42
JA & King Tut

Your opinions are as valid as mine.

However, 1 or 2 facts:

1. Ayr only had to drop 2 antipodeans for their B&I Cup matches ... it is not the proportions some of you may want to believe

2. Ayr's crowds are regularly round 1000 & have also topped 1,500

3. 7:30 on a Friday night in Gala is not exactly convenient for working suporters with a distance to travel there & back

4 I have travelled as far as Dublin with a fair number of Ayr supporters solely to watch the CI matches .. have you made that journey? However, I did have to take time off & drove all the way there & back with a 1 night stay in Belfast.
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Rambling Sid Rumpo,

17/12/2009 01:18:25
In the old Yorkshire adage about accountants, they are "nobut but scorer", i.e. they may be able record what is happening in financial terms and also to cut costs but they don't know how to grow a business. A necessary evil if ever there was one!
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J.A.,

17/12/2009 08:59:49
#20 I know, unfortunately every time someone has a swing at the borders as did #4 and #15, it’s just too tempting to set the record straight.
I know I should rise above it!!!

#25
Addressing your points.

1.I didn’t bring up the point on antipodeans so won’t comment.

2.I here that Ayr are having good crowds, good for them. It’s the pathetic crowds of two and three hundred at city games that makes these look big. If, and I know it’s a big if, Hawick and Gala were in the top two spots in prem 1 their crowds would be double the 1000 or so they are getting at the moment.

3. 7.30 on a Friday evening was convenient enough for 4000 spectators. Although they didn’t pay I don’t think that would have had any bearing on numbers, everyone I have spoken to would have happily parted with £5 to watch, after all it’s more than that to watch a club game.

4.No, I have not travelled to Dublin to watch a CL match; does this have any relevance to the discussion? Anyway, I’m sure you had a good time.
Of course, driving to Belfast is a bit easier from Ayr than it is from Gala, do you think there is a chance the Irish provinces will host some of the their games a little closer?
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J.A.,

17/12/2009 09:02:05
#23 SHARING A PINT? that's where we've been getting it wrong, we all get one each!!
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