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Hearts look to Germany and Austria again



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Published Date: 25 March 2008
HEARTS are considering holding pre-season training camps in Austria and Germany again this summer in a repeat of last year's double-pronged preparations.
The Evening News can reveal that Tynecastle officials have visited both countries to assess facilities for the squad to prepare for the 2008/09 campaign. Sport director Anatoli Korobochka travelled to Austria to view hotels and training provisions whilst club interpreter Konstantin Kornakov has done likewise in Germany.

Korobochka is understood to be behind the push to organise two pre-season trips during July, which is also favoured by majority shareholder Vladimir Romanov. Last summer, Hearts spent 12 days in the lakeside Austrian town of Walchsee, which preceded another 12-day stint in Meschede, Germany. The trips were overseen by veteran Russian coach Eduard Malofeev, whose old school methods irked many senior squad members.

Players are less than enamoured by the idea of a repeat schedule this year but the final decision will rest with senior management, who are keen that the team should bond together with any new signings before starting the new season.

Hearts have expressed an interest in participating in the Intertoto Cup, which would force a rethink on pre-season plans due to the tournament's June starting date.

Meanwhile, interim manager Stephen Frail is urging caution over the fitness of striker Christian Nade, who returned to full training at Riccarton yesterday. The Frenchman's pelvic problem has eased and Frail is hopeful of having him available for Saturday's visit of Dundee United.

"We'll need to make sure he's right. He was a loss on Saturday against Falkirk and I'm keeping my fingers crossed he can come back into the squad. It's not certain at the moment," said Frail.

"He looked sharp enough in training and all being well will be available for Dundee United. We were all disappointed not to beat Falkirk and it has obviously left us needing favours now as we attempt to make it into the top six. It is going to be tough ask with Falkirk still three points ahead of us but all we can do is influence our games. That's why we are focusing on United now and getting the victory we need."

Frail's lack of striking options is not being helped by a distinct lack of commitment from Mauricio Pinilla, who is showing little willingness to return from a knee ligament injury sustained in January.

Neil McCann underwent a successful operation on Saturday night to remove a plate from the leg he broke against Celtic last August. "The surgeon is happy enough with things and Neil is up and about walking," said Frail.


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  • Last Updated: 25 March 2008 10:29 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Heart of Midlothian FC
 
1

Conran,

Husref Musemic's twin brother 25/03/2008 11:40:05
Surely pre-season plans should be left to any future 'manager'? My hopes for a proper manager are slowly fading away with this news.

Never to worry, this training plan worked last year, didn't it...
2

victorian,

25/03/2008 11:46:04
please no. no to this please. is malofeev going to be involved? if so, please pass the gun.

3

FINLAYBAR,

25/03/2008 11:47:37
I dont think where they went was the problem. It was that goon Malofeev that caused all the problems. Some of them need the hard work mind you.

Is Pinilla fit but cant be bothered. Where is he now!? We need to get rid of him asap.
4

SirSerg',

25/03/2008 11:50:30
Great news.

FBK Kauno can again have a couple of confidence boosting games against the "big team" prior to our League of Champions campaign.

Ed Malofeev can again get the HoM players into shape. Maybe HoM pear shape by then.
5

Conran,

Husref Musemic's twin brother 25/03/2008 11:54:13
"...a distinct lack of commitment from Mauricio Pinilla, who is showing little willingness to return from a knee ligament injury sustained in January."

Did Pinilla not have a genuine injury sustained as a result of his long period out? I also thought there was a story in EEN a month or so ago saying he hoped to be back before the end of the season and was looking forward to playing?

Who / What to believe eh?

6

cam2644,

25/03/2008 11:56:05
I see in Spain that the Fiscal is charging the Betis President of transferring funds due to the club to either himself or third parties.In Spain that is a criminal offence.I wonder what the Scottish and Lithuanian laws are?
7

victorian,

25/03/2008 11:57:02
yes what about pinilla? the statement was a tad vague. how about expanding on what you know about it banderson?

8

the big team r hibs an u know it,

25/03/2008 12:02:14
after the season hearts have had this wee trip if just reward.
9

the big team r hibs an u know it,

25/03/2008 12:03:43
wee question here. See if any of u seen Romanov in George Street on a saturday night after a defeat by St Mirren, would u punch him in the coupon?
10

Indie Rep Kid,

25/03/2008 12:06:30
Why is the club interpreter viewing training facilities?

Surely he should be accompanying someone of experience who is viewing training facilities, no?

Dreading next season already.
11

Predator,

25/03/2008 12:06:57
We have started a sweepstake in the office,
To see how long heart of midlothian survive,
always guaranteed a giggle at the quotes from gorgie,
keep it up, we are amused!
12

Predator,

25/03/2008 12:07:51
It's like lambs to the slaughter!
13

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25/03/2008 12:10:26
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14

GrahamL,

25/03/2008 12:20:01
#6 "transferring funds due to the club to either himself or third parties"
Well, given that that is tantamount to theft, I would imagine that both Lithuanian and Scottish laws are against it. Why do you ask? Do you have evidence that someone in either Lithuania or Scotland has been indulging in such activities??
15

GrahamL,

25/03/2008 12:22:10
#7 Wouldn't say it's that vague. The esteemed Mr Anderson is saying that Panilla is unwilling to return from injury. This could be interpreted as saying he is fit enough to return but can't be arsed, or it may just be very badly chosen words...
These days, I wouldn't put either past either of the gentlemen in question!
16

just a jambo,

25/03/2008 12:24:27
re 13 i admit hearts have been a mess this season, but your hibvermin fc are only 3 wins better off not a lot to brag about really. if this is the best you can do when hearts are a mess you better hope we never get it right.
17

Jamboree,

25/03/2008 12:26:04
I am rooting about for a £1 coin for my gas meter as I type............................................................found one.................goodbye cruel world.
18

Indie Rep Kid,

25/03/2008 12:28:09
#15 So....it's vague then
19

Pedantic_Hibee,

25/03/2008 12:29:30
#16

I think the fact those extra three wins difference has been achieved on a fraction of the budget and a tenth of the arrogance might have something to do with it.

Anyways, back to the subject in hand.....the players themselves said at the start of this season that last summer's training camps were not beneficial at all. So much so that a lot of the players looked unfit at the start of the season....unthinkable considering the time they spent away from home in these training camps.

Like Victor says, if Ed Malofeev is brought into the fray then you can have real cause for concern.
20

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 12:31:31
Training camp in Austria !!! it will be two bell tents and a calor gas cooker the way the hertz finances are going.
21

GrahamL,

25/03/2008 12:31:48
#18 Umm.... No. It's obvious what it says, it's just... err... he might not have meant it like that... maybe...

Ah crap, I'm off to enrol for those adult literacy courses...
22

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25/03/2008 12:31:59
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23

Indie Rep Kid,

25/03/2008 12:32:26
It just seems like we will never learn from our mistakes with Vlad around. I can't imagine David Murray or Tom Farmer stating a preference for where the pre-season training should be.

If I had my way, they would be off to Albania for 2 weeks.

And I am putting money on another pointless and over-hyped friendly against a top Euro side.
24

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25/03/2008 12:40:25
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25

Indie Rep Kid,

25/03/2008 12:42:18
#24 bye bye!!
26

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 12:43:26
#23 I think Sir Dave may surprise many with how much influence he imparts, but thats ok because he knows everything anyway.

Training/Boot Camp. Surely not again, no lessons learnt, in my employment at the end of any project we have a lessons learnt session, I suggest Hearts should have one.

I'm all for pandered wee souls going through some pain, but it appears they down tools at the thought of hard work these days, so ultimately counter productive.

Must admit I'm well up for Intertattie now, especially with this news.

Was Darren Anderton, Christian Nade and Mo Pinillas role model.

What a waste of wages, sell sell sell, but who will buy buy buy?
27

TRUTH WINS,

musselburgh 25/03/2008 12:46:17
#26 Hearts will withdraw their application for the intertattie if they fail to make the top six
28

SirSerg',

25/03/2008 12:48:57
#27

They will have no option. They only have 4 days to appoint a qualified manager with correct badges to meet SFA deadline.

They wouldn't be allowed to participate even if they wanted to.
29

GrahamL,

25/03/2008 12:48:58
If we bring in a load of new players, a new manager etc then yes I can see the point of heading away somewhere for a week or so to get the team to bond. If.
Regardless, another 4 week thing would be crazy, a week away should do it, a wee pre-season tour of another country isn't that unusual - but not the best part of a month!

And does anyone know if there's a way we could put a restraining order on Malofeev? Stop him going within half a mile of a Hearts player?
30

Rambo_the_Jambo,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 12:51:36
Let's all remind ourselves who Hibs played when they last entered the Intertitty cup, and what the score was, BEFORE you all start having a dig at HMFC.

If it was good enough for your lot................

Next Hibs poster please name the team, country and score.

Thank you.
31

Dublin_Hibs,

25/03/2008 12:57:18
this forum is a joke!!! 4th time i've been kicked of merely for keeping the weegies in line. This is the Edinburgh Evening News FFS not the soapdodger weekly
32

TRUTH WINS,

musselburgh 25/03/2008 12:57:20
#30 Not having a dig, just stating a fact
and it's pertinent to the article
33

Indie Rep Kid,

25/03/2008 12:57:28
#30 er.....I think the point was that we took the pash out of hibs for playing in a diddy competition while we were lording it in the Champions League/UEFA Cup

if you think our entry into this 'competition' is a worthy starting point for a 'big team/wee team' moment then go ahead
34

JamboThrough&Through,

25/03/2008 12:57:37
#28

Dont you think IF thats the case, Hearts and inparticular Campbell ogilvie already would be aware of it, but since there has been no mention anywhere else we will believe it when we see it. I would also assume there are clauses or provisions in place if not then no club can lose a manager after this deadline as it would automatically disqualify them from Europe.

What happens if Strachan leaves celtic in the summer, does this mean theyre not allowed into the champions league?
35

Gorgie Forever,

25/03/2008 12:58:18
What a complete farce! Agree totally with #1, what is any prospective manager going to think if these muppets plan the pre-season already? I honestly beleive there isn't an ounce of common sense between any of the people of influence at our club. Why do we need to go away twice? Surely once is enough. I don't think team bonding is the key, I think a mass team extermination would work much better.

Won't renew the season ticket until some of Romanov's seemingly empty promises are honoured.
36

victorian,

25/03/2008 12:59:10
#31 DH, aw shame, is the forum not up to your required standard? now you may know what it's like for us jambos.

with you on the weeg issue though.
37

Indie Rep Kid,

25/03/2008 12:59:47
#35 "I don't think team bonding is the key, I think a mass team extermination would work much better."

brilliant - harsh, but fair
38

Sardonic Jambo,

25/03/2008 13:01:03
Right enough, the training camp worked wonders last time!

someone take one for the team and take malofeev out the game.
39

JamboThrough&Through,

25/03/2008 13:01:29
DH be carefull now m8, how many have you gone through with your warranted anti-weeg stance?

You might be joining old laughing boy riley soon as just another piece of forgettable history on the EN/Scotsman
40

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 13:01:39
I suppose it would only be English, German, Italian, Spanish clubs that would be allowed to circum navigate rules regarding qualified coaches, the Old Firm of Europe if you like.
No Barcelona this year then, or are they seeking more meaningful opposition, Cowdenbeath for example!
You've got to laugh, if you didn't.....
41

TRUTH WINS,

musselburgh 25/03/2008 13:01:45
#31
Oh well I’ll try and get chucked off too

How about their complete inability to use the letter “O”
As in "we wan wan nil”
Actually they use it once a week when the utter that word “Giro”
42

victorian,

25/03/2008 13:02:56
a team bonding exercise sounds good to me. let's start by bonding jose's brian to his legs and bonding miko to an economy class airline seat bound for kaunas.

43

huggs,

25/03/2008 13:03:22
I really hope Frail is no where near the pre season next year he still goes on about players not having a proper pre season now and its March
One up front st home to Falkirk Elliot the Falkirk defenders must have been sh1tting themselves
Give Makela a chance bin Elliot bin Panilla bin yourself while your at it Frail as you dont have a clue
And let the new manager decide about pre season if we are to get one and i am now having serious doubts about it
44

East at Easter,

Mussy 25/03/2008 13:03:29
This is more comedy. Did we not read last year that it didnt work, yet here we are again. Same tour/training details are they not?
The Hartz Cirucs is coming to a town near you...
45

victorian,

25/03/2008 13:04:32
#42 should obviously read jose's brain. i don't think he owns a brian.
46

Silence of the Yams,

25/03/2008 13:05:25
Fail has no coaching badges, so I suggest the Yamz all head for Largs this Summer.
47

JamboThrough&Through,

25/03/2008 13:06:42
#46
Is that because the hobos have already pre booked portobello
48

victorian,

25/03/2008 13:07:08
#46, that's right...largs. that's what it says in the article after all.
49

Florentine_Pogen,

Rigel 7 25/03/2008 13:07:26
#17 Jamboree, don't do it, mate......surely a dodgy, fly-by-night Lith shyster wouldn't drive you to Yammacide, would he ?

50

SirSerg',

25/03/2008 13:07:45
That's a little unfair, #42 victor.

Miko scored the goal that got great last gasp draw against St Mirrens and I read that he was MoM against a top 6 team at the weekend.

Maybe Kurskis, but not Miko.
51

JamboThrough&Through,

25/03/2008 13:10:48
I see Gretna have released Yantorno as they're unable to pay his wages, Anyone think he's worth pursuing? At least he be available for free.
52

Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:11:29
It must be me!!!

Mass hysteria because Hearts are talking about taking the squad to quality training camp(s) in Austria & Germany.

The primary problem was the quality of training not the number/duration of camps.

As i say it must be me.

53

TommyTommy,

25/03/2008 13:14:12
Another example of Romanovs mates and their families holidaying abroad at Hearts expense.

Sport Director and club interpreter my a*se.
54

Hashimoto,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:15:37
Hibby in peace.
What id McGhee or Levein or whoever has already been consulted and agrees with the Austria trip? Things might not be that bleak Jambos.
55

Tricky Dickie ,

25/03/2008 13:16:12
Forget going abroad, take them paintballing and change the pellets to real bullets...a fun day out for all and I will hide in a tree and shoot Elliot!
Get a new manager in and he has no worries about not being able to offload the wasters as they will have been taken care off on they day out!
56

victorian,

25/03/2008 13:16:48
#51 JT&T, he's oot injured, ligament job.

#53, yes you are an erse. proved on a daily basis.
57

busbyfh,

25/03/2008 13:17:49
No manager (worthwhile one)

NO SEASON TICKET
58

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:20:16
They will go by bus like the one Terry Thomas used to take St Trinians on tour-a leyland 1939 vintage with Vlad cast as the George Cole character..flogging his dodgy LP's on the way.
59

JamboThrough&Through,

25/03/2008 13:20:30
#56
I know he's injured which is one of the reasons Gretna have relesed him, they cant offord to pay his wages/treatment etc and wont play a player who is injured anyway, ligament damage can be a bad thing but its not as serious now as when levein or durrant sustained those injuries. That injury neednt be so career threatening now. Still think he would be worth going after.
60

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 13:21:28
#35 They have to plan these things now, or otherwise end up touring Ireland or the Highlands, because the facilities will be taken by someone else simply they cant afford to wait.
However it wouldnt have been beyond them to get a manager in place, but its all about penny pinching at the minute.
No prospects sitting in 11th when the Angel bit his Angel Dust, so wait until the summer and save on a wage.
Not the best for the fans but I suppose it does make sense, meanwhile we suffer on.
61

busbyfh,

25/03/2008 13:21:51
Does Vladimir Romanov care about Hearts or the club's fans any more ? View the article's picture (top of page)for a clue.

Come on Vlad - get a manager in place so I can buy our season tickets.
62

JamboThrough&Through,

25/03/2008 13:22:12
#58

Why not go the full hog and we could use the scottish cup winning bus used by hibs in 1902.....ooops sorry forgot buses werent around in those days it was a horse and cart, still would be fun though.
63

Big Rob the Hibbie,

25/03/2008 13:23:54
#51

Oh how times have changed, from signing world cup stars to Gretna frees.

The mighty have fallen.
64

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 13:25:25
#51, 56 JT & T, no not really. But I'd have the boy Dorman from St Mirren in a minute.
Victor, I'll wager this years chosen boxer for Vlad at Band Camp, is Jose and his Brian if he wants to take him too!
Followed by a swift deportment to Coventry, or maybe Stoke if he's really unlucky
65

JamboThrough&Through,

25/03/2008 13:26:56
#63

You wouldnt want him at easter road then Rob?

66

Dublin_Hibs,

25/03/2008 13:26:58
the administrators on this site obviously commute through to Edinburgh in hope of a better standard of life ....only the capital can offer,

Just start booting the lice ridden unwashed soapdodgers off when they log on save me the hassle of escorting them back to the train station
67

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 13:29:11
#63 Only morons would pay out huge money, when you can have decent productive players on your own doorstep.
Come on who would lash out on Chilean and Bosnian strikers that might play less than 20 games between them over 2 seasons when you can get players from ICT and Kilmarnock that look gash, but actually play games and provide something.
Who would do that, plain stupidity!
68

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:32:24
Victorian..read this-Lets have a look at UBIG.

http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%AAk...%97_grup%C4%97

The figures to look at are down the RHS of the text.

Pelnas (profit) is a paltry 1.5M Litas (approx £340k)

Bendroves turtas (turnover) is 314M Litas (approx £71M)

Not as "big" or as "profitable" as many Yams would have you believe. My local corner shop makes more profit!!! The whole Vlad empire is all smoke and mirrors, apparently UBIG have not filed accounts for two years to their companies house equivelant in Vladland, Ukio bankas expected profit for the first two months of this year were ..wait for it Two million quid.Hibs make nearly as much selling pies at half time, now we see why season tickets are on sale, players being sold and companies knocking at the door for payment...it's a Mickey mouse empire.
69

SirSerg',

25/03/2008 13:33:56
Doesn't Korobochka look like Sir Les Paterson?

http://sirlespatterson.com/
70

TommyTommy,

25/03/2008 13:35:07
56
Get yourself enrolled in these adult literacy and numeracy classes and ask your teacher what
"Gullible" means.

While your there see if the teacher will explain to you that if you take £40 million pounds from someone youre not investing in them.

71

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 13:35:27
#68 You are boring, we've been through all this before.
Zzzzzzz.....zzzzzz....
72

Big Rob the Hibbie,

25/03/2008 13:36:41
#65

Not the point I was making, don't really think he is any better than what we have.

He seems to be injured a lot so would probably fit in at Hearts better.
73

Indie Rep Kid,

25/03/2008 13:37:06
#68 ah, it's on wikipaedo so it must be true

mug
74

GrahamL,

25/03/2008 13:39:19
#71 Aww, don't spoil it Chas.
I want another afternoon of barely understood accounting figures, wild conjecture and implausible assumptions to prove that Vlads going to use Hearts to fill his private swimming pool with gold coins then cast us adrift with £1bn of debt.

I really missed all that over the Easter weekend!
75

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:40:16
#73 Your the mug's for falling for Vlad's lies-can you give me better figures then? wee team nae team.
76

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 13:48:05
#74 Sorry GrahamL, only one thing more frustrating than watching Hearts, thats listening to Hobonomics and to be fair Yamonomosists.
At least I get paid for the latter!
77

Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:50:16
##hibbydoug: as you are clearly a financial wizard you will realise that one years turnover & profit are not an indication of a companies worth.
However i recognise that you and all your parasite buddies(to be fair there are only a handfull of contributors who qualify) only hope of a period of domination in the Capital is the demise of HMFC.
Get over your inferiority complex and concentrate your efforts on convincing your own board to invest in your current side & you never know you might retain your current upper hand.

78

The Maroon Seasider,

Dunbar 25/03/2008 13:53:26
Mibbe Mark McGhee has arranged the training camps (if certain rumours are to be believed).

'keen that the team should bond together with any new signings ' Emphasis on the 'any' there, no doubt.

Farce.
79

Ghengis McCann,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:55:29
#33 - "lording it in the Champions League/UEFA Cup" Oh, is that what you were doing, lording it? And here are we Hobos thinking you were crashing out through the qualifying rounds faster than a skydiver without a parachute. Never even got to play the official tune over your Tannoy.

Lording it. Deluded is just inadequate for you lot.
80

Surelynot,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:55:36
# 68 The accuracy of information on Wikipedia is questionable. TO illustrate the point, they have John Collins as the manager of Hib
81

Surelynot,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:56:24
#80 'Hibs'
82

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 13:58:05
#77 yer doomed...doomed i tell ye, You lot will only believe it when the flats go up.Vlad's millions-what a laugh his bank gets most of their profits from the interest they get from Hertz ...Believe.
83

victorian,

25/03/2008 14:00:03
i'm not going to get involved with the budding alan sugars of hoboland today. i don't have the energy for another round of berserk claim and counter-argument.

the new rules as set out by the hobos recently make it hard to conduct such exchanges due to the onus being on the sceptic to prove wild conjecture to be incorrect.

they don't like it up em captain mainwairing, sorry i meant they don't like to be questioned you know.

the age of the hobo cyber-fascist has begun in earnest.

84

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:01:53
Victorian's been quiet for a bit-maybe he has gone for a lie doon with a damp towel accross his nut...thinking oh no! it's worse than i thought.
85

Dublin_Hibs,

25/03/2008 14:02:19
what are you blethering about now viccy, have you been oan the vicks inhaler again, or in your stationary cupboard wi a box of magic markers?

Hibs and facism??????

that does not ring true surely......dont see many combat 18 flyers lying around albion road
86

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:04:17
Just when you thought it was safe he is back-so you are not going to get involved...have i shut him up ? there's a first.
87

GrahamL,

25/03/2008 14:04:18
#76 But you see - if you spend 17.2 minutes per day looking at Hoboconomists views, then - assuming interest levels of 12% - you spend 32.11 hours a week doing so. If we assume that you do that every week for the rest of your life thats 395.021 squillion hours - or 2 papillon pounds. Comparing that to the strength of the Panamanian Balboa in 1973 you'll see it's 21 in todays money.
Comapare this to the turnover of Vlads Apple Turnover Turningover plant, and the profit of his Prophecy department and I'm sure you'll see how it means that Vlads just spent all the Craig Gordon money on a magic plutonium waistcoat, with a ununseptium cummerbund.
88

victorian,

25/03/2008 14:04:28
#85 DH, there are many manifestations of fascism. those nutters are but one.
89

LionheartFodithman,

25/03/2008 14:05:03
#83
Ah Vi play the game..I will play if you want.I have the hobo accounts for 07/06 to 07/07 in front of me.What would you like to know ?????
90

victorian,

25/03/2008 14:06:14
#87 GL, qualiteee.
91

victorian,

25/03/2008 14:07:58
#89 LF, ok why not?

i say hibs spent £1M on teabags during the last accounting period. it's a fact.

£2M on custard creams.

don't believe me? it's up to you to prove it.

92

Big Rob the Hibbie,

25/03/2008 14:08:18
#83 A joke about rules.

A couple were married and, following the wedding, the husband laid down some rules.

"I'll be home when I want, if I want, and at what time I want," he insisted. "And, I don't expect any hassle from you. Also, I expect a decent meal to be on the table every evening, unless I tell you otherwise. I'll go hunting, fishing, boozing, and card-playing with my mates whenever I want. Those are my rules," he said. "Any comments?"

His new bride replied, "No, that's fine with me. But, just understand that there'll be sex here at seven o'clock every night ... whether you're here or not."
93

hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:08:27
# 89 don't tease the man..he obviously collapsed a minute or two ago, give him a break-the scales are falling from his eyes.
94

Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 14:08:51
#87 You are a genius, no other word for it. Did you study at Harvlad or one of the other fine universities?
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Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:10:34
#89: from you Lionheart nothing.

Could hibbydoug comment on same incl a comparisson with UBIG !!!

Could he also confirm the status (planning/anticipated build) of the last stand at easter Rd/copare with current position with Hearts new stand.

Very much doubt it but i wait in anticipation.

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Ghengis McCann,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:10:59
#83 - as I recall, Victoria, we Hobos were not so much setting new rules as refusing to comply with your self-proclaimed restrictions, which were that while you Yams could make any claim anything you wanted (Vlad McMad can be trusted! Hearts have no debt! The new stadium is deffo on its way!), every minor counter detail posted by us had to be backed up by a fully witnessed legal affadavit before it could be admitted into evidence. It was your inability to produce any counter-argument to the composite picture of financial chaos at the PBS which led to your strop at Hibbies who had the gall to challenge the rules of debate as you saw them.

Your post is nothing more or less than the latest Yam justification for a refusal to face up to reality. Same applies as yesterday - if you have nothing convincing to say, just say nothing.
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Catholic Jambo,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:14:08
#96 : Ghengis; unless you have nothing convincing to say then suggest you also say nothing.

NB: accept that also applies to me .
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hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:14:21
#95 New stand will be built within the next two years-Hertz new stand is pie in the sky .
#91 Victorian..please someone help the man custard creams and what...the drip must have come oot his arm.
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Big Rob the Hibbie,

25/03/2008 14:15:43
#83 Joke about proof

One day, an old lady went to the store to get some food for her dog.

When she got to the counter to pay, the cashier said she needed proof that the old lady had a dog because some old people have been known to just eat the animal food themselves. So she went home got her puppy, bought it to the store and purchased the dog food.

One week later, she went to get some cat food. Once again the cashier needed proof that the old lady had a cat. So she went home, got her cat, came back and purchased the cat food.

Two weeks later, the old lady walked in the same market to buy something . She held a bag in front of the cashier and told him to put his fingers in the bag and then smell them. When the cashier did, he said, "It smells like sh it!"

The old lady replied, "Can I buy some toilet paper now?"
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victorian,

25/03/2008 14:15:51
#96 GM, yeah but no but yeah but no...

as poster 'bleedin heart' said yesterday, someone who refuses to distinguish between personal opinion and fact is not interested in debate, all they want is to impose their opinion on everyone else. real debate distinguishes between fact and opinion.

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Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 14:17:05
#96 I have to agree it does smack of stones and glasshouses and all that. I mean you would think Hibs were good the way you guys try to shoot us down.
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Big Rob the Hibbie,

25/03/2008 14:17:34
#97

If these were the rules there wouldn't be another post on here, ever.

We need new rules.
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victorian,

25/03/2008 14:18:51
good jokes big rob.
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hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:18:53
#100 Victorian i gave you some facts-where are yours to disprove them, they were the best i could come up with after doing quite a few searches on the subject-disprove or you are beaten.
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Catholic Jambo,

Edin 25/03/2008 14:19:08
#98 hibbidoug:'next two years' firm commitment then! my understanding(not stating a fact) is that the planning permission runs out next year.

and the Turnover/net profit of Hibs accounts compared to UBIGS?

Whilst you are looking them up as you obviously do not have a clue look up the meaning of parasite and see if you qualify.
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Chas Niceass,

25/03/2008 14:19:49
#99 Very good, enjoyed that one, had heard the previous one before, keep the coming!
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GrahamL,

25/03/2008 14:21:15
#94 I did indeed. I've just completed my Vl.D (Doctor of Vladology) thesis on "Tower of Londons Ravens, Tynecastles Bats. Two empires inexorably linked?"
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victorian,

25/03/2008 14:22:00
#104 hobodug, what if i can't be ersed? am i still beaten?
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Ghengis McCann,

Edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:22:29
#95 - why should he bother commenting on any of that? Hibs are not £38m in debt, not managerless, and not languishing in the bottom six. Nor are we owned by a megalomaniac absentee landlord the finances of whose own companies may be none too healthy. Nor is the club about to take on a £51m debt on a highly speculative development.

On the other hand, you can just do what Victoria does, ie quote other Yam posters as self-reinforcement for his own delusions. He is still at it in #100 - trying to manipulate the rules of debate rather than address the arguments. Real debate deals with the substantive points, Victoria m'boy, not the technicalities of the discussion. I don't think anyone other than yourself round these parts has any difficulty distinguishing fact from opinion, but if you want it spelled out it is the OPINION of most Hibbies that all the cicrumstantial evidence available (and there is plenty) points to a club in a lot of financial bother. We will all find out soon enough whether that OPINION is FACT. Satisfied, pedant?


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hibbydoug,

edinburgh 25/03/2008 14:22:32
#105 we have filed accounts on time unlike......as for turnover yes UBIG has a bigger turnover than Hibs but we made more money than them!!!.
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Glorious Hearts,

25/03/2008 14:23:35
#19 hibs have a tenth of the arrogance of hearts???

You don't think calling yourselves "the flair team" is incredibly arrogant?
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jambo cha,

25/03/2008 14:24:08
#98 do you and your know it all friends never give up
all you talk about is money never football you sure you are a fan of the game i think not
sstfu
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Glorious Hearts,

25/03/2008 14:25:04
#110 no, you made more profit than UKIO BANKAS, a small part of the empire.
you made nothing like the same amount of money as UBIG, a biiig company. look it up
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Humble Jambo,

Reality 25/03/2008 14:25:22
Why so many Hobo comments? I never read the stuff written about them never mind respond. There is obviously a deep psychological need which drives them to do this not becasue they want to, but because they have to. It all beats me!