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Hearts' trepidation replaced with a renewed sense of belief after derby



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Published Date: 21 October 2008
THE sense of trepidation among Hearts supporters ahead of Sunday's visit to Easter Road was only closely matched by the same fans' re-established belief in the Edinburgh derby's aftermath.
Csaba Laszlo may not have enjoyed the win which would have won him precious backing from maroon-clad punters, but the full-time ovation afforded to the Hungarian and his players hinted that a victory of sorts had been won.

Laszlo, hitherto never o
ne to accentuate negatives in public, actually supplied quite an admission when conceding he was "not so confident" before the trip across the city. With that in mind and given the bristling nature of Hearts' performance, it is difficult to argue against the fact it was them, and not Hibs, who emerged from Sunday's game with the more credit.

Perhaps tales of Hearts' recent demise had been greatly exaggerated. A dismal display in exiting the Co-Operative Insurance Cup at the hands of Airdrie United had been partly forgotten as Hearts won at Hamilton, three days later. Yet a subsequent defeat to Falkirk, scrappy victory over Inverness, humbling at Tannadice and home loss to Kilmarnock ensured external pressure had built up towards Laszlo for the first time. Quite how the manager felt as Steven Fletcher edged the hosts in front within 80 seconds of Sunday's kick-off is therefore anyone's guess.

Laszlo's upbeat post-match mood was understandable. Hearts, whose stomach for a battle has been questioned, combined an unwillingness to fold amid early Hibs' pressure with no shortage of fine football.

Those who had been unimpressed by not only the pace of Hearts' play but their apparent inability to sufficiently adapt to their new manager's formation – 4-1-4-1 or 4-2-3-1, depending on your outlook – would have been pleasantly surprised. Strangely, those of whom little was expected came to the fore with one of them, Christos Karipidis, specifically hailed by Laszlo.

"Karipidis, at the moment, is the discovery of the year in the No 6 position," said Laszlo of the defender he has converted into a holding midfield player. "He had a very confident game and this is what I need.

"This young team, with the confidence they showed on the field, can be a very good team. Lee Wallace and Andy Driver are under 21, there is also Eggert Jonsson, and Michael Stewart was a leader in the team.

"Also Christophe Berra, for his age, did a fantastic job. A lot of times he has asked me about his role as captain. If this team can stay together for one or two years, we can be a very good team, definitely."

Conversely, Laszlo would have been concerned by the first-half showing of his goalkeeper, Marian Kello. The Slovakian, one of few success stories for Hearts in recent weeks with a string of commanding displays, was overtaken by nerves before the head clash which led to his afternoon's work being curtailed. But as if to emphasise this was Laszlo's day, Janos Balogh stepped in to produce as heartening a debut as anyone could have reasonably expected.

The towering Balogh, who lost his place at Debrecen after the Hungarian outfit's refusal to sell him to a Serie A club prompted a row, is likely to keep his place for Aberdeen's visit to Tynecastle on Saturday.

There is a similarly strong chance his loan spell will be extended beyond the turn of the year.

Stewart and Christian Nade were worthy of their manager's words of praise. Stewart, more often through a frustration at his team-mates' shortcomings rather than malice on his own part, has a tendency to let occasions such as those at Easter Road get the better of him. Not so this time around; the fact he was not booked may hardly seem pertinent, but represents tacit illustration of his blossoming maturity under Laszlo. "The first time I saw Michael Stewart in a game, I knew he had leadership qualities," explained the former Ferencvaros manager. "He talks a lot but not aggressively, just confidently."

Nade, meanwhile, emphasised the very work ethic which has been absent during his troubled time at Hearts. If the Frenchman continues to flourish, Laszlo's technique of adopting a paternal approach to the striker who has endured his share of family turmoil in the past can be highlighted as a genuine success story.

Mixu Paatelainen has highlighted more basic points of interest as Hibs face a testing trip to Celtic Park on Saturday. Hearts' midfield dominance was a key aspect of the derby, with Paatelainen keen to stress individual shortcomings were perhaps more a part of that than his own decision only to play three men in the heart of the field against Laszlo's five.

"We must concentrate on our passing game," said the Finn. "The defenders must take more care with their passing as well, because we are outnumbered in midfield. At times, our passing was a little careless."





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1

Der Kaiser,

21/10/2008 00:34:31
#1
You clearly didn't watch the game.
You have no knowledge of Hearts.
You have even less knowledge of football.

What you do have is a deep burning desire to be a Jambo.
That's why you're always the first to post on Hearts threads with your "molten droplets of soccer wisdom".

So why don't you make like my gas bill....and take a hike.
2

Harlem Tam,

21/10/2008 02:35:22
I've been away from these boards a few days as I am in Scotland for a couple of weeks. Going to Old Trafford later today and will also take in the return game at Celtic Park before returning to Australia. A bit jet-lagged and cannot sleep after dozing on and off most of the evening, though still feeling shattered.

Anyway, I have been talking to a few old acquaintances in Edinburgh where I worked in the Financial District for many years. It appears Hearts are in deep financial trouble once again.

To all you Jambos out there, believe me I am not on here gloating and spreading malicious mischief. Those who remember will know that I supported Hearts against the trashy Scottish Media, and a few posters on here, during their last financial hiccup with the late payment of salaries etc.

My information comes from a prominent Hearts supporter in Edinburgh. Apparently Romanov's bank is dying on its feet and Hearts may well be in administration in a matter of days.

I sincerely hope this doesn't happen, but believe me, it ain't looking good.
3

Harlem Tam,

21/10/2008 02:46:55
BTO - We are talking about people's jobs and livelihoods here. It really reflects badly on you that you can joke about it mate.
4

Harlem Tam,

21/10/2008 02:54:34
So #5 was not an attempt at humour at the expense of Hearts' problems?

I must be more jet-lagged than I thought.

I'm away for a lie down.
5

Gracemount Jambo,

21/10/2008 03:10:01
Tam. I do remember you sticking up for us especialy against that muppet bto who is always having a dig at the Hearts.

The monthly salaries are due on 23rd which is Thursday so that could be the bad news you are talking about. I hope you are wrong tam but i fear the worst.
6

Brisbane Bhoy,

21/10/2008 03:15:06
HT

Ya lucky dancer. How did you manage to get tickets for both games living in oz?
7

Harlem Tam,

21/10/2008 03:27:02
BB - Got the Old Trafford ticket from a Man U supporting friend back in Oz. I'll be sitting in the away end. Got the home ticket from my brother who is happy to give up his seat seeing I have come such a long way for the games. I fly out from Edinburgh at 9:15 this morning, or thereabouts. Can't wait.
8

Harlem Tam,

21/10/2008 03:32:37
Sorry, obviously I meant the HOME end.

I really need to get some sleep.
9

Harlem Tam,

21/10/2008 03:33:56
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
10

Championees,

The Emerald City. 21/10/2008 03:36:02
Bto, I got your message on the other thread about this one shaping up nicely. It's not for me to say what you should do or not do, but if Harlem Tam's information is correct should you really be winding these guys up about such a potential tragedy.

I mean, I like to beat them too (football), but do you have to beat them when they are this low? God knows what this club or its supporters did to you? But there are times when you really could and maybe should lighten up on them IMO.

HT Have a great time in Manchester, can't say I hold out for much hope, damage limitation anyone?

4 In a row coming your way!
11

Championees,

The Emerald City 21/10/2008 03:51:34
To all of the HoM supporters regarding post 18, it should have read.

I mean, I like to beat them too (football), but do you have to beat them when they are (allegedly) this low?

Goodnight.
12

Daillyman,

21/10/2008 03:53:33
Hello all, just staggered in from the pub following a day of golf here in Myrtle Beach.

Is this speculation about HMFC or is it a serious story?

Should be able to catch the tic match tomorrow at3pm after a morning round on the links. Best of luck to them I think they will need it.
13

Anglo Jambo,

Chorley 21/10/2008 06:11:05
I must be on wrong forum as I thought this was about the game and the players. For what it is worth still think we would be better serve by Karapidis at back and Palazeulos as holding midfielder. Zaleukus not for first time this season has gone to sleep. Also I am afraid Wallace doesn't give me confidence.
14

obi,wan,

banana republic 21/10/2008 07:14:58
b.t.o.why don't u give it a rest ur comments are so tedious and boring its getting beyond a joke.if there was the slightest bit of good humour or banter i could understand but its the same old jambo bashing every week.ur just not funny m8.do u secretly want to be a jambo instead of a glory hunter?getting back to the game i'm happy with the point after all the bragging the hibbies were doing last week HHGH
15

Mikey,

21/10/2008 07:18:59
Ignore the sleazy, sectarian, loyalist scumbag!!!!!!!!!!!!
16

Ex-Pat Stanton,

Melbourne 21/10/2008 07:33:58
Haven't been on since the game as unfortunately life gets in the way of Fitba most of the time.

One each sems fair after reading the reports we had a stonewaller denied, you had a good goal denied. All square on the luck side too then. Sounds like a ripper game, but how it could give Hearts confidence I dont know...

I mean you only got a draw with the 'wee' team after all...

Oh yeah, BTO, I think most hearts fans are willing to hedge their bets about the future (or lack thereof) of their team. There have been eejits on here most days proclaiming the demise of Hearts for three years now and it would appear none of them have been right, what makes you think you'll be any more right than the rest of them?
17

Mooncat,

Sweden 21/10/2008 07:35:14
I watched the game here in Sweden, and thought it was the best derby in a long while - entertainment wise. Totally captivating.

The difference is, I think Hearts can only get better, whereas I think that was Hibs at optimal performance levels...

www.fitbaw365.com
18

Pistol Pete,

21/10/2008 07:37:51
Bring them on:

I really do not see your point in anything that you post. You even turn up on the boards of political stories with the masses insisting that you just go away. You post meaningless/ irrelevant cr-p. Is there not an equivalent Paisley Evening News/ Scotsman that you can post on and reach out to your mentality and compare dug meat stew recipes?

Now being a hibby, I hope both clubs spring on from here and set up an even better next derby to rightly eclipse the OF guff, dominated by mash heids like BTO.
19

Pistol Pete,

21/10/2008 07:44:07
#33
Hearts very much depends on a current fragile situation which I still think can go either way. There is still a false atmosphere there of uncertainty.

Hibs on the other hand need 3 players in January; goalie, defender and midfielder and all with experience to rub off to the youngsters. All 3 positions on Sunday were greatly exposed and I actually do not think Hibs can get any worse there - Can they? I hope both clubs make it, as good for our game, the city, the fans etc etc.
20

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

21/10/2008 08:08:42
#4 Oh good I see we're about to go into administration. Again. Someone has some mysterious "inside" info. Again.

If anyone wants to see just how obsessed Hibs fans are with Ukio Bankas and how desperate they are for their neighbours to go bust for having the temerity to try to challenge the OF by doing the only thing you can do - raise wages - just search for "Ukio Bankas share price" or similar in Google - about half of the results are for Hibs fans sites. Sad.

Why don't they discuss their own club with such passion?

In actual fact, when you do find actual official information, you'll see that the Ukio share price has jumped in the last few days. Its share prices are basically doing what the share prices of all banks are doing.
21

Nell,

The Preservation Hall 21/10/2008 08:11:22
Bring Them On:- As you are so interested in all matters concerning Hearts, perhaps you would like to come along to Tynecastle some game. I'm sure all Hearts supporters on here would be delighted to club together to get you a ticket and maybe even someone could arrange to have you paraded around the ground at half time, so you can wave to all your friends.
22

the west end general,

21/10/2008 08:12:12
its been proven countless times that BTO is just a fantasist ( lying about where he is posting from / occupation etc ) as for the latst rumour about Hearts demise - who is this prominent jambo? source ? Its all just false rumour and hearsay.Hearts are lining up new players for January FACT to enhance the team not as a fire sale!
23

Away down in Gorgie,

21/10/2008 08:20:55
41

We will avoid administration but we will see quite a few players being sold and off the wage bill between now and end of Jan. However young Scottish players are being targetted as repalcements (cheaper but hungry to perform).
There is a serous cost cutting going on at Hearts. Decisions are being made without VR say so.

Actually administration would not be the end of the world as there are 2 parties interested in Hearts and thus they could buy them at a more realistic price. Talks with 1 group taking place this week.

Tough times ahead but the overall future will be better.
24

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

21/10/2008 08:27:03
#43 Explain what an emergency bond is in detail. Explain why UKio might be trying to do it. Explain what it means in the short and long term. Explain the impact it could have on Hearts, baring in mind Hearts are not owned by Ukio, and what Hearts various options are. Explain how this differs from the emergency measures virtually every bank in the world is currently undertaking. Provide at least two instances of banks/companies that have done similar things and what the outcome was. Then provide at least two credible links to the source of this and all other information you provide so it can be ratified. Then maybe people will believe you.
25

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

21/10/2008 08:28:12
#43 PS As you seem to have this information at your fingertips, it should be fairly quick for you to do this.
26

the west end general,

21/10/2008 08:29:21
c'mon BTO
provide a link to where you got this news ( or shut up )
42
are you getting this from KB or from a more reliable source? I met up with a lot of people on Sunday who are usually in the know but nowt was mentioned.
27

Away down in Gorgie,

21/10/2008 08:29:49
Hearts have a short term cash flow problem and Ernst & Young have been in to help reduce overheads - they are not in setting up administration but if things had continued then who knows.

Thankfully steps are being taken to sort things out but expect players like Makela, Nade, Kingston, Basso, Ruben etc.. to go in Jan.
28

Jambo Dave,

Edinburgh 21/10/2008 08:32:03
BTO.You have shown yourself in your true light and prove that you are not a football person.What would give you such fun to see one of Scotlands bigger clubs or any other Scottish club for that matter getting into trouble?Where do you get off on this?
I can understand wind ups between the clubs where we can laugh at each other with a bit wit and banter but sir are shown to be a lonely soul sitting at your keyboard all day with no other life.
Let me tell you I would be heart broken If something happend to the club I have followed for 40 years.Let me also tell you Hearts will not die, ever.If the worst happend me and plenty of other people (football people)not like you, would fight tooth and nail to see a good outcome.I opposed the merger with Hibs for football reasons I gave money to D For life to help Dundee FC because thats what real football people do.
I also note you have wandered over to the politcal site on this paper where you show yourself up with your repetative posts and are dispised there for that too.
29

GeorgeCowieOrWalterKidd?,

21/10/2008 08:38:53
NatWest, A & L, Egg - all offering one year ISAs, etc with fixed interest rates and bonuses. Some pay monthly, others on redemption. And this is just a few UK banks. What's the story here?
30

Rambo.the.Jambo,

Edinburgh 21/10/2008 08:40:16
Can't understand this H*un bto's obsession with Hearts.

Even if UKIO are a bank in trouble
a) HMFC isn't owned by the bank, the bank is part of the bigger UBIG Group. So the bank going under shouldn't affect us.

b) We will simply be bought over by another consortium cheaper than it would have cost.
31

Reasoned Debate,

21/10/2008 09:04:25
#55 TotT et al. I have said it before, but you really need to blank BTO. He is an idiot and has no interest in anything outside Rangers and certainly no interest in Reasoned Debate !. He just comes onto threads pretending to have an interest, but his true (blue) colours soon surface. Ignore him (her ?)
32

Jamboy,,

Edinburgh 21/10/2008 09:34:50
Won't it be ironic if HBOS call in the massive debt currently owed by rangers... how much sympathy will there be after the twisted behaviour of the non-football people that RFC seem to attract more than any other club?

The cost cutting at RFC at present and the warnings of player sales and fans being told of no players to be brought in all point towards a looming financial crisis for the glory hunting scum... i wonder how many of their fickle (remember the 80s) fans will depart for pastures new again if they are unable to strengthen an already poor to average team that is staring down the barrel of 4 in a row?

I predict a very poor short to medium term for the over-hyped and over rated wee team of Glasgow... but you know what Delia 'Bring The On' Smith?... it couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of 'PEEEPUL'
33

Gorgie's Finest,

21/10/2008 09:57:04
#59

HBOS might not have a say in it m8. The Government will own two thirds of HBOS, and will be looking to recoup as much money as possible to cover the bail outs, to lessen the tax burden. Read the Govnmt plan on selling HBOS, RBS etc at a later date and quite possibly to outside investors meaning they will no longer be the recognised Scottish Banks, and outside investors will not be as lenient as the Scottish owned HBOS were with another Scottish company, in this case Rangers. Or the Govnmt may want to call in debts to make HBOS a more attractive proposition for investors.

Any club having dealings and debts with these banks could be in trouble, but none more so than Rangers because of the amount of debt they have with HBOS. Murray wont bail them out to that amount, he has his own problems which are becoming evident.
34

Jamboy,,

Edinburgh 21/10/2008 10:07:18
#60

Oh the irony...
35

Rambo.the.Jambo,

4-0 at Hampden 21/10/2008 10:17:39
# 60 Gorgie's Finest

Correctamundo.

If the Govt manage to take a majority stake in HBOS, they will begin a very harsh fiscal recovery scheme as they intend to do with Northern Rock. After all it is taxpayer's money. If this takeover of HBOS brings on an early demise of Rankgers then good riddance to them. They are an embarrassment to the modern game.

Murray can't bail them out, he has already underwritten nearly £50m, Joe (who again?) in the Bahamas, I seem to remember, loaned them £40m.

He who pays the piper calls the tune.

Rankgers are going under.
36

Rambo.the.Jambo,

21/10/2008 10:19:26
# 62 bring them on,

HA HA HA

There aren't enough giros in the whole of Glasgow to cover £100m Rankgers debt.

Go away you tiresome little H*un. This is a Hearts thread
37

Jamboy,,

Edinburgh 21/10/2008 10:43:36
#62

Delia,

"Enough supporters to buy the club if they wanted."

Ah but most of your supporters are the fickle glory hunting kind who abandon the club when things aren't going well as they did in the eighties so i doubt very much that they would feel enough affection for the embarassment and disgrace that calls it'self RFC to bother raising any funds to save it.

You see the problem is is that most of the Rangers fans only support Rangers because they win more often than not (this means a lot to the sort of perenial losers that call themselves rangers fans) and after 4 or 5 in a row and no further investment in a team that is already falling badly behind their nearest rivals and can only manage second and even third places in the league... Well you will see that famously fickle support of yours diminish... lessening the value of your debt ridden club even further.

PS: What happened to Murray's plan for that 1,000,000,000 seater superdome?... Do you have any more Huttons or Cuellers to sell to fund it? Or perhaps you will sell your shops... Oops too late they have gone... What about the land around Ibrox... oops again that is already being flogged too... Hhhhmmmmm, how long has Murray been trying to sell rFC now? perhaps it is something to do with their poor record in Europe in the modern game, the thuggish reputation of their travelling support and huge debt owed to a failing bank that is standing in the way? Just a thought.
38

VictorianGorgie,

21/10/2008 10:56:04
FAO bring them on,

you know diddly squat about football, stop embarrassing yourself please. stick to what you know... being a glory hunting, anti-social scourge on the general population.

karapidis had a terrific game vs the hobos, especially for a player who is relatively new to the position he occupies.

39

Skiver,

21/10/2008 10:57:33
I can't believe some people still spend their days rising to the BTO bait.
40

CBJambo,

21/10/2008 11:26:38
#67
I know, the guy is the biggest to$$er on this board and for a follower of Mordor who has apparently little interest in Hearts he spends far too much time on these boards bumping his gums...

... it's what happens when your wife runs off with the postman and you end up living wi your mum again! ;-)

Dull bloke, dull chat... sad act.
41

VictorianGorgie,

21/10/2008 11:52:58
#71 bore them all,

everyone is entitled to be dull from time to time but you do it in such a savage manner that is knocks the wind out of the reader.

an insanely boring wee sausage.

42

I.J,

The Diggers 21/10/2008 11:55:14
Here's that story in ENGLISH.

I honestly can't believe the BBC aren't flying over to Lithuania this very second to cover this massive, massive news. *Ahem*

http://www.ub.lt/ShowPage.aspx?MenuC=1568&PageLang=ENG&ShowDoc=news.2008_10_10_2&PageFontSize=
43

I.J,

The Diggers 21/10/2008 12:14:58
I'm not one for text speak, but - LOL.
44

Pistol Pete,

21/10/2008 12:30:43
As standard, has the word "massive" officially replaced "big" as I hear it overused on these boards, between TV pundits and even in my local. Is massive a supposed intelligent word to use, the same as engage?
45

I.J,

The Diggers 21/10/2008 14:08:21
I'm not the one kidding on here chief.

Why don't you answer #44 and "educate" me?

46

"PAWS" FOR THOUGHT,

23/10/2008 14:23:36
#60 CORGY

.............and you don't see any parallel whatever in the HMFC/UBIG d21ddybank situation??
People in glass houses etc etc...Eh Moochacho??

 

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