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Published Date: 23 July 2008
WHEN Scotland failed to qualify for the finals of Euro 2008, many members of the Tartan Army sought solace in the fact that it was the World Cup finalists, France and Italy, who had finished above Alex McLeish's team.
That sense of consolation may have diminished during the finals themselves, as France failed to get out of their group and Italy were knocked out in the quarter-finals, but Thierry Henry, for one, believes Scots should still take heart from the last campaign.

The Barcelona striker, in the country for his club's matches against Hibernian tomorrow night and Dundee United on Saturday, is convinced Scotland can look forward with optimism to the World Cup qualifiers which begin this autumn, and suggested that being in the same group as the Netherlands should not be a cause of undue gloom.

"If Scotland hadn't lost in Georgia then it would've been very difficult for us to qualify," he recalled of the Euro matches.

"So it was possible for you to qualify right up until the very end. So with the qualification for the World Cup coming up I don't see why you should be scared of any team. You have already proved you can beat the best teams in the world."

That narrow failure under McLeish is regarded in some quarters with a sense of resignation as a high-water mark for the national team. The pessimistic prognosis sees George Burley, McLeish's successor, struggling to inspire his team to reach the heights they did in moments such as the victory in Paris.

That analysis is based on the notion that the squad over-achieved, and that with some key players approaching retirement we could be approaching a fallow period for the side. Henry, however, sees things differently.

Although he admits to being no expert on Scottish football, he has been surprised by the feeling of defeatism which exists in so many parts of the game here, and among so many supporters.

Henry finds it hard to comprehend a mentality which, at its most stereotyped, thinks Scottish players are no good, that positive results are invariably caused by good luck, and that even if the odd decent player does somehow emerge from this country we can expect a very long wait before a second one turns up. "We played against Scotland twice last year when we met in the qualifiers for the European championships," he added. "You beat us twice so there's no doubt you have good players."

Of course, in retrospect it is possible to see that France were already some way past their best when they played Scotland. Having just managed to qualify for the finals, they were dismal in the tournament itself in Switzerland and Austria in June, and their failure to reach the last eight spelled the end of their international career for several members of the team. Yet, while diplomatic and willing to flatter his hosts to an extent, Henry baulked when asked if he thought the tournament had been poorer because of the absence of Scotland.

"I don't know if Scotland would've done better," he said. "We didn't play well and were poor this summer, we know that. I suppose it is easy to sit and say that you could've done better and got further than the team who went in your place, but we will never know. All I know is that we didn't play well and the teams who qualified from the groups and got to the final deserved to. Spain were deserved winners, we can't have any argument about that."

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23/07/2008 00:55:19
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jerrymanders,

Tell it like it is... 23/07/2008 01:01:09
#1

Stop sitting on the fence. Are you for him or against him?
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:02:48
Such class Tim regarding an injured footballer.
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:04:34
bto

How are you?

Yes lets see how long this thread lasts, James and Casual Observer did quite a number getting the Kennedy thread closed down.
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:07:41
Was looking at the FIFA rankings with Brazil @ # 2

Surprises me as they have lost 2 WC qualifiers on the trot.
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:14:47
bto

You are spot on regarding some of the posters. Saturday I was told by a poster I supported bigotry and sectarianism.
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:26:05
bto

Balde on for the last half hour nodded the ball across for Van Hes. to get the equaliser.
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:28:42
I wonder if Balde would come on a free? Play for less wages after he gets his big pay off, just to show WGS he can do a job.

We were going to sign Shittu, a poor mans Bobo!
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:38:26
12 thepundit

I agree about his abilities, much the same as Shittu's.

But it would be interesting. lol
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:42:41
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Balde certainly does not have a lot of mileage put on those legs the last 2 seasons, should be well rested.
Time to email WS. lol
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:50:09
Naw, a lot of their supporters dont like him either.

I think the support have to get behind him, a couple of early goals should give him some confidence, and get the crowd of his back.
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:57:08
bto

Working again are you?
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 01:58:42
Be back in while, anyone spoke to Swordsman?
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 02:05:12
bto

I had an operation a couple of months back, when I got back to the office they were waiting with the golden handshake ( I was waiting for it coming I just turned 56).

The severance was terrific and the company pension kicks in in 18 months.

The wife is an accountant and is continuing to work, I am loving being Mr. Mum to her and our Yorkie.

I have her tea ready for her coming in and all is well.

No more working and my next move will be in a 6' box.
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Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 05:49:43
pundit, bto, daillyman, aka chico, harpo and groucho. You lot come across as having a combined age of 21, yet groucho tells us he is over 50. Very odd!

"lol" "lol" "soooo" "pat mcgroin". Chico, I note you running around any thread where you can comment and taking an absolute pasting from everyone and anyone.

What a bunch of juankers.

Hows kenny misser doing.

lol.lol.lol
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Scoop in the City,

23/07/2008 07:37:41
"If you hadn't lost in Georgia - it would have been very difficult for us to qualify". Very true Thierry, Can you remind us the names of the Old Firm players that decided that they were 'injured' for that game.
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:38:51
Oh my aching sides!!


Murray's Blueprint
The Herald, March 2000
KEN GALLACHER
Just as promised, Rangers are moving on to another level from the rest of Scottish football, as chairman David Murray announced a new investment of £53m for the Ibrox club, with a further massive cash boost soon to follow.

The eventual cash injection could soar as high as £80m as Murray guides the club into what he believes will be a new, golden era for the Scottish champions. The money involved, the biggest financial boost for any Scottish football club, will enable them to move into Europe's elite over the next few years. Yesterday, however, Murray maintained, as always, that he will not turn his back on Scottish football to play in any other league, and that while he remains in charge of the club, he will retain a responsibility to the domestic game."

It is clear from this latest move, however, that the Glasgow giants are setting an agenda that no other Scottish club can match - and that appears to include their Old Firm rivals, Celtic, who are trailing by 15 points in the Premier League championship and are now looking at a financial gap which the Parkhead club might not be able to bridge. There have been hints around Glasgow that Celtic could be ready to attempt a share flotation of their own, but it would seem unlikely they would be able to match the financial clout that Murray has put together. The Ibrox chairman promised his shareholders good news and a more prudent financial strategy at the last annual meeting of the club. He has now delivered this by taking on board several very heavy financial hitters, South African-based David King is worth around £300m - £20m of which he is investing in the club he followed as a young man in Glasgow."

The Ibrox chairman has spent several months and many sleepless nights piecing together the plans which will eliminate Rangers' debt, currently sitting at around £40m, provide finance for the new training centre and the socce
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:39:26
The Ibrox chairman has spent several months and many sleepless nights piecing together the plans which will eliminate Rangers' debt, currently sitting at around £40m, provide finance for the new training centre and the soccer academy which will be housed there, and still allow cash to invest in new players. He said: 'I want to make it clear from the outset that while our small shareholders, our supporters who have an interest in the club, will have the opportunity to invest again if they want, there is no pressure on them to do so. The bulk of the rights issue is being taken up by myself and David King and some other smaller investors, including Alastair Johnston, who is a long-time Rangers' supporter.'

'We also have Trevor Hemmings coming in as an investor and Tom H***** will join us some time in the future. Essentially, the investment we require is in place and we also have a major media deal in the pipeline which is very exciting and will bring in further serious investment to the club. I told you earlier this week that I had run the club up to now on a high-risk strategy which has involved carrying large debt. These days are over. The whole method of running the club is going to change, because we are in a situation right now where we do not need to take the risks we have had to take in the past. We don't have to spend the same money on players, for example, as we have had to do over the past two years when we were restructuring the team after the arrival of Dick Advocaat. At the moment, we have two new players set for next season, Allan Johnston and Fernando Ricksen and Dick is looking for another quality striker. He is working hard on that right now.' 'Dick and myself know what we are aiming for.

We want to be in the Champions League every season. This is what we want for the club and this is what we have been working towards. However, we shall not be going on any wild spending sprees in the transfer market.' 'We have a player or two to add to the squa
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:39:50
We want to be in the Champions League every season. This is what we want for the club and this is what we have been working towards. However, we shall not be going on any wild spending sprees in the transfer market.' 'We have a player or two to add to the squad - a top-class international front player, as I said, but we don't need to buy Numan, van Bronckhorst, Mols, Reyna, or McCann - because we have these lads in place already. Believe me when I tell you that we are going for it this time - we want to be successful in Europe, and the money we are raising now will take us there.'

'This is the last part of the jigsaw for me, but we shall always be a part of Scottish football and we will take our domestic responsibilities seriously. We respect the other teams in the Premier League and we know this news will make them try even harder against us. But, so be it. 'Barcelona don't win every week. Bayern Munich don't win every week. Manchester United don't win every week. Yet, our supporters expect us to do so and we shall always try to do that. What we do know is that to be in the Champions League, we have to win the Scottish title, and that is our aim every season. We shall always be here with our roots.'

However, the mega-deals Murray has been working on are sure to carry Rangers out of the reach of their rivals here at home and unless Celtic can somehow find the means to strengthen their own financial standing even the age-old rivalry between the Glasgow giants will be threatened as the Ibrox men grow ever stronger.
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:41:54
Is this what he was talking about? 1-0 V OAP combined reserves??

mwahahahahahahahaha


Clyde: Hutton (Cherrie 46), McGregor, Ohensorge, Higgins, Numan (Trouten 34), Brown, Gibson, Kettlewell (Wilson 87), Clark (McGowan 65), Albertz (McSwegan 47), Laudrup (MacLennan 47). Subs not used: Connelly, Murch.

Rangers: McGregor, Whittaker (Dailly 76), Broadfoot, Weir, Papac; Novo, Hemdani (Emslie 74), Thomson (Adam 60), McCulloch; Darcheville (Velicka 60), Miller (Boyd 60). Subs not used: MacLachlan, Furman, G.Smith.
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:43:46
"THE Rangers supporters who revelled in a reminder of a more glorious recent past for their club last night would have left Cumbernauld nursing a sense of concern over what the immediate future holds for them.

Kenny Miller, who was again jeered by a minority of Rangers supporters

Miller should have claimed his first goal back in Rangers colours in their next attack, Thomson and Darcheville combining to play him in on the left. The Scotland striker cut inside his marker but then shanked his shot wildly over the top.


Mwahhahahahahahahaha
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wibblemonkey,

23/07/2008 07:45:00
A few comments about Celtic's pre season results from Gers fans

Yet no mention of the Gers getting beat 1-0 by the Shalke and struggling to Beat Clyde last night full of visiting ex Gers Geriatrics

Maybe The Pundit etal should concentrate on how poor his own team is

or is it a case that only Celtic's pre season games count ??
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Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 23/07/2008 07:46:53
I hope Kenny Miller does really well for Rangers (except against Aberdeen). He's had some bad luck, but he's a talented player and he gives it his all every game, and he deserves a break and a few good bounces of the ball. Barry Ferguson, on the other hand, could be injured from now till 2020 as far as I'm concerned as a Scotland supporter. (I'm not wishing the man personal harm, you understand, just enough to keep him and his ponderous backpasses out of the Scotland midfield.)
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:55:17
37#

Rangers?
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:57:42
37#

How do you think Murray's masterplan is coming along? You know, the one detailed above..hurrumph..

" Believe me when I tell you that we are going for it this time"

hurrumph....
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old firm,

23/07/2008 07:58:38
"However, the mega-deals Murray has been working on are sure to carry Rangers out of the reach of their rivals here at home and unless Celtic can somehow find the means to strengthen their own financial standing even the age-old rivalry between the Glasgow giants will be threatened as the Ibrox men grow ever stronger".


I think I've spotted the flaw.......
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old firm,

23/07/2008 08:01:12
Was it the Corgi's?

You know the one that went..."I could change the world"
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old firm,

23/07/2008 08:02:56
" Believe me when I tell you that we are going for it this time"


..and the laptop loyal and most of the poor deluded Rangers fans did.......
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old firm,

23/07/2008 08:05:24
"Dick and myself know what we are aiming for"


Misprint I suspect, should read...

"I am a Dick and don't understand what you are all blaming me for"
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wibblemonkey,

23/07/2008 08:07:58
Old firm you better watch out

Sir Dodgy Dave's Lawyers may be reading this or the man himself

loooollllll
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wibblemonkey,

23/07/2008 08:12:42
#45 -I think Rangers prefer to do their talking on the pitch.

is that like struggling to beat clyde or getting beat by Shalke

that's some fine talking by the Gers
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wibblemonkey,

23/07/2008 08:19:39
#47 you appear to have a selective memory

Celtic have played 3 main pre season friendlies

lost one , drawn one and won one

kinda blows yer "like no beating anyone" statement out the water a bit

i guess if Celtic played Clyde rather than Middelsbrought we may have got another win

as it is we will just settle for a draw
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N B,

23/07/2008 08:46:38
I note that Celtic had another shakey performance in last nights friendly. Given that the club seems set on going into next season with the same squad as the last, it must be worrying times for the worldwide(Scotland & Ireland) Celtic fan base.

We welcome the chase.
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old firm,

23/07/2008 08:56:32
50#

Worrying times?

Yeah, like f*** it is. Have you read the reports or seen any of the Rangers friendlies? Miller? Boos ringing out again? Boyd cheered when he replaces him but the cardigan wants him out? Oh yes, we're worried. I'm worried that I've paid a season ticket for CP which looks like it will have a meaningless OF fixture on it. Give it to November and we'll be outta sight...hello hello...4 in a row...6 more to go hello...hello..

Hows Murrays master plan coming along? On track?

Hurrumph.......
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old firm,

23/07/2008 08:58:29
Worried anyone?? Clyde 0 Murrays master planners 1

Hurrumph



Rangers: McGregor, Whittaker (Dailly 76), Broadfoot, Weir, Papac; Novo, Hemdani (Emslie 74), Thomson (Adam 60), McCulloch; Darcheville (Velicka 60), Miller (Boyd 60). Subs not used: MacLachlan, Furman, G.Smith
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old firm,

23/07/2008 09:00:15
Can anyone remind me what the major media deal was?


hurrumph



"we also have a major media deal in the pipeline which is very exciting and will bring in further serious investment to the club"

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old firm,

23/07/2008 09:01:16
How much are you raking in from the leasing of your laptops to the City of London Police?
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old firm,

23/07/2008 09:03:42
Oh wait a wee minute..was that why the hordes of knuckle draggers were chasing the lone policeman in Manchester? To ask if he could find out what had happened to Minty's (I want to rule the world but the Scottish refs and media will have to do) computers?
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old firm,

23/07/2008 09:08:17
128 minutes Albertz Numan and Laudrup played between them last night, so 1-0 was a remarkable achievement against such quality. (and to think they hit us with "aye but Le Tissier played for 20 mins for Southampton")

Did John Grieg feature at any point last night? Gazza, flute in one hand pint glass in the other?


Mwahahahaha... 4 in a row coming your way soon...very soon...
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old firm,

23/07/2008 09:10:17
Been a hoot guys, see you all soon...gonna check the odds for Kenny Miller to win the golden boot...I believe it's rated just below the chances of Elvis getting seen in that chip shop.........
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old firm, ,

23/07/2008 09:14:31
Okay, okay, I admit it, I'm a little t0sser who was anally raped by James T0rnbutt the Celtic P&edophile.

It was good though. Torby was an great ghuy....
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N B,

23/07/2008 09:14:42
#55 OldFud

What worries you most is that with one swish of his pen, Sir David could take the famous Glasgow Rangers back to the top table of the European transfer market. Instead he has got the club operating within the limited TV revenues available, with only a European Cup final to show for the new approach. Sir David recognises that no man is imortal and he must ready the good ship the famous Glasgow Rangers for handing over to its next navigator. He will handover a debt free club living within it's means, thus the millions that the new owners pump in will be seen on the park from day one.

We welcome the chase.
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thebigiam,

23/07/2008 09:18:50
I'm a Celtic supporter, so shockingly I'm going to talk about... Scotland.

I'm not sure I think the Euro qualifiers was a high water mark. But I do wonder if Burley is right in employing more positive tactics. I think that playing one up front (either Miller or MacFadgen) really worked for us against the better teams. Going with two forwards... can see us getting picked off... Still. Hope my misgivings are misplaced..!
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N B,

23/07/2008 09:21:17
#60 thebig

How do you think wee, Glasgow born and bred, Aiden McGadgie thinks about the Scotland team?
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wibblemonkey,

23/07/2008 09:24:06
#49

wtf are you on about - old firm has been doing the long post not me so once again you do not appear to have a scoobie about what you are talking about

and as for having confidence in eltic i have loads - a team used to inning the league , plenty of time left to bring in new players as we are not under the gun to sign due to having no qualifiers for the champs league

and throw in the fact that most reports say that our biggest rivals are playing with no passion or invention

so i would say it's a great start to the day for me
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N B,

23/07/2008 09:28:28
#63

In May 2008 Rangers played in a European Cup final, you silly bhoy.
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wibblemonkey,

23/07/2008 09:30:47
#59

sir dodgy dave is a multi millionaire

however the big clubs are owned by billionaires

you are living in a fantasy world if you think dodgy Dave has the money or the volition to swish his pen anymore

and even if he did he still would not be able to compete with the big clubs to put the gers back "To the top table of the European transfer market"

those days for the old firm are gone

it appears that message has still not sunk in for mny o/f fans
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23/07/2008 09:32:00
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N B,

23/07/2008 09:34:47
#65 WibbleMonkey

"those days for the old firm are gone " LOL

Celtic never had them, they have always been a selling club.

Judging from your name, have I dealt with you before on the old BBC forum?
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N B,

23/07/2008 09:37:01
Well it wasn't THE european cup but A european cup. Still, no doubt we'll bring the big one home in the next 5 years as soon as players like Smith, Broadfoot, Burke, Naismith etc get a few seasons euro experience under their belts.
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wibblemonkey,

23/07/2008 09:39:39
yes nervous bear i was on the b.b.c site

and a few sites after that you got banned from due to your shall we say colorful view of the world

and strange that Celtic as a "selling club" in your eyes seem to be pissing all over the gers this Century and with recent years as a yard stick this looks like it will continue
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N B,

23/07/2008 09:49:51
#68 Timposter in Da House

As the public record shows, Rangers played in a European Cup final in May 2008, their 4th final on the European stage.

We welcome the chase.
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Erchie Broon,

23/07/2008 09:51:43
Two nights ago I watched Rangers vs Moscow Dynamo (ECWC Final 1972) and last night I watched Aberdeen vs Real Madrid (ECWC Final 1983).We quickly forget how many really good Scottish players were in both teams and I wonder if in 10 or 20 years time we wont look back at the current crop and realise how good they were.
To some extent Henry is right.We are either over the top about how good we are or criticising at every opportunity. Why dont we just give them a chance and in particular I think about Miller. Who cares about whom he played for previously.Its all about what he does today and if Rangers fans dont give him a chance then his failure will be a self fulfilling prophecy.
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thebigiam,

23/07/2008 10:04:23
#72. Kind of agree with you in a Scottish context. If you look at Miller's club record, historically nothing to shout about. But for Scotland, he's never let us down.

#61. Yeah, I'd loved to have seen McGeady turn out for Scotland. But he's made his choice and we should let him get on with it. We've benefitted from plenty of players finding Grandmothers who once visited Perth for a day trip, so we should accept that it is a rule that will sometimes go against us as well.
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:05:18
72#
But he's shoite? Nothing to do with not giving him a chance, he's simply shoite.

They can call it the UEFA cup if they like but I say it's the European Cup, so as I say, we WERE in the European Cup final.

2nd best team in Scotland and Europe.
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:05:28
#72 Erchie

I think in the olden days, there were more good Scottish players, but they were thinly spread amongst a number of teams. These days we have many fewer players capable of performing at the top level, but still enough to put out a competitive international team. Whether they are good enough to qualify for a tournament, is anybody's guess.

Let's look at the history of Scottish World Cup expectations:

74 Happy to qualify, surprised by not losing a game.
78 Fancied our chances of winning it, not unrealistic in a 16 team tournament with the players we had.
82 Expectations lowered, but disappointed not to qualify from the group stage.
86 Expectations lowered, again disappointed not to qualify from the group stage.
90 Expectations lowered again, expected not to qualify from the group stage.
94 Did not qualify
98 Just glad to be there.
02 Did not qualify
06 Did not qualify

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Montford's Jaicket,

Over here and overwhelmed 23/07/2008 10:07:20
#7 Just for info, it doesn't matter who you lose to - Brazil or Botswana - if you lose you get NO FIFA ranking points, and you don't lose any either. The ranking system is well documented (and maybe even accurately) on Wikipedia - go have a look there for how ranking scores are calculated. At the moment Brazil are #2 despite losing a couple of games, perhaps because the ranking scores only get published once a month. Equally, it is possible to lose games and not drop down the table if the teams just below don't win any points either!

Anyway, back to the topic - which was Scotland and the World Cup qualifiers...
#72 - I tend to agree with you. If Kenny Miller has a good season for Scotland either providing or scoring goals then that will obviously help the national side to win games. Our first 4 games are important - three are away from home it we take 6 points from those 4 then that will be a solid cushion; Macedonia then Iceland away, Norway at home and Holland away - no easy points there. Hopefully we will be able to get through the campaign with no key players injured or otherwise unavailable - but if not there now seems to be some depth to the pool of players so that if one or two do withdraw others will maybe take their chance and make it hard to regain a place.
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:16:15
#73 thebig

There have been pleny of Scottish born players of the past qualified to play for Ireland. The majority of them only turned their sights west when the land of their birth ignored them(Houghton, Coyle, Coyne, Slaven etc). The difference in the McGagie case is that Ireland were his choice of first resort. Social conditioning and segregated education systems being responsible in no small part for his decision.
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Skiver,

23/07/2008 10:19:28
The story at #30 is a great example of the laptop loyal writing exactly what Murray has instructed them to.
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:21:08
And nobody is better qualified to comment on social conditioning than me. I'm sure you will all agree on that at least.
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:22:10
78#
SDM didn't say these things. Why do you believe he did?
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:29:26
#79 James

The truth that dare not speak it's name.
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:31:04
#80 #81 Timposter

I see that we are both using the same name, change yours or GTF.
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Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 10:32:34
Call the cup what you like, hell, call Rangers Brazil if you like...doesnt mean that anyone else will take your lead. Only one Scottish team been in a European Cup Final and theres only one Scottish team to win a European Cup final. Can you guess what club that was? I will give you a clue: it's not Rangers.

Stand up for the champions, you wretch!

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N B,

23/07/2008 10:34:44
#84 Huffner

Rangers have played in 4 European Cup finals. Celtic have only played in 3.

We welcome the chase.
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paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 10:36:54
74

The correct terminology is a European final...

Your desperate need to associate with our achievements is understandable...
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:41:32
..and 50 titles = 5 stars = 1 European trophy equivalent. So that's another Euro final.
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N B,

23/07/2008 10:42:13
#86 Pauling

Who are you to say what the correct terminology is? There are two UEFA competions for the major club teams each year. The UEFA Champions League and the UEFA CUP. Often UEFA is replaced by the word European in colloquial usage.
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2Pasquenade ,

23/07/2008 10:42:40
Watched the Middlesborough game last night and almost wish I hadn't bothered...soooo dull for the most part.

Boro's goal was 'daft' , and although Brown didn't create the danger, blasting the ball against an onrushing striker in front of goal carries certain risks...he should have dived at his feet and tried to smother the ball.

Still, I'm glad we equalised , because I want to win this trophy.

Rangers sound as though they are really struggling, getting a dodgy 1V0 against Clyde, and Mcoist is casting some doubt on whether any new faces will arrive in time to face Kaunas.

Hard to say anything about Kaunas : the team they eliminated could have been absolute donkeys ... but then again they might have been hard working, obbstinate wee bu##ers that would have been hard to score against in which case their result would start to look impressive.

Kaunas are on a bit of a roll and go into this tie as serious underdogs with a 'nothing to lose' mentality.
Noone expects them to win, and ironically that could be their strength.

Celtic play Porto at the end of this tournament and hopefully we'll see an improvement from everyone in that game.
I've seen Hinkel against Southampton and last night and am beginning to have serious doubts about this guy : he is far too generous about the space he allows left wingers.
70

FC Barcelona,

23/07/2008 10:43:08
no one in the current old firm squads would get a game even in barca's 4th string team !
71

N B,

23/07/2008 10:44:01
Timposter still here? Nobody is fooled by you so go away.

Current squad at Ibrox will be good enough for a quadruple this year.
72

N B,

23/07/2008 10:46:07
90#

What? McGregor, Broadfoot, Smith, Cuellar, McCulloch, Boyd, Ferguson, Miller and Thomson for starters would make your 1st team never mind the 4th. Well, maybe not Miller, he'd be on the bench, but the rest would.
73

N B,

23/07/2008 10:47:05
Barca were VERY fortunate to leave Ibrox with a pt last year.
74

N B,

23/07/2008 10:48:34
We'll see what happens if we meet this year in the CL. (assuming we get past Kaunas and the next qualifier)
75

N B,

23/07/2008 10:51:51
When SDM speaks, people listen:

"Rangers chairman David Murray has promised the club's shareholders a brighter than ever future, despite record crippling debts of £73.9m.
Murray admitted to the club's annual meeting that he had been too ambitious in the past but that he would wipe out the debts within a year.

"Financial stability is the big priority," he said, receiving backing for a rights share issue to raise £57m.

"But, when the good times come back, they will be better than in the past."

76

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 10:52:20
81

Yes he did and more!

Only you....would hide from the truth and fall into a tailspin dive of denial!

Now stand up for the champions!
77

N B,

23/07/2008 10:53:41
OK he does not say exactly WHEN the good times will be back but he does say they will be BETTER than in the past.

Just a matter of weeks, months, years or maybe even decades or centuries, but they will be back.
78

mybestmatesa,

confused 23/07/2008 10:54:20
Reading the posts 30-34 made me forget what this thread was originally about. Its Scotland FFS. 130 years of Scottish football shows that each of the old firm will enjoy limited periods of dominance over the other.
Unfotunately the same time frame indicates that no matter how good or bad the players that make up the national team, we still tend to win the odd big game then lose the next "small" one.
I for one am sick of the valiant losers tag, however it is better than the simple losers tag we had under Wee Bertie.
Maybe we can qualify if we back ALL the players selected no matter who they play for. Living here in Johannesburg I will be well scunnered if we don't qualify. This is my first World cup since '74.

79

N B,

23/07/2008 10:56:01
#96 Pauling

On this one you are arguing with our friendly forum Timposter! Let's see what he has now that someone has taaken his rancid bait.
80

N B,

23/07/2008 10:57:47
Here's what our illustrious leader promised, why should we doubt him?


The Rangers chairman and Advocaat have forged a close relationship, one underlined by the desire for Rangers to grow comparable to Barcelona, Real Madrid, Manchester United and Juventus.

"The most influential man at this club is [David] Murray. He is the only person here that is irreplaceable," said Advocaat.

"He knows that if we invest in two or three players, despite all the big money spent in Spain and Italy, that we can compete at that level.

"We are so close to these clubs and he will find the resources to bring in the players for us to compete with the best. That is the only way to stay alive," he said.
81

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 10:58:18
Morning Lads...Thanks for the belly laughs I had reading the hairsplitting over Euro trophies etc...Delusional 'gers fans who ACTUALLY believe they have been in a European Cup (i.e.the PREMIER Euro trophy)final...What next? Fairies at the bottom of the garden?
As for the stewardship of RFC by SDM...Bears,ask yourselves this question..."Would I buy a used car from this man?
82

N B,

23/07/2008 11:00:53
"We are so close to these clubs and he will find the resources to bring in the players for us to compete with the best. That is the only way to stay alive," he said"

So that's why he has brought in Broadfoot and Miller. With some luck, Lovenkrants will also be coming in, so, although we did miss out on Shittu, you can see the trend of where SDM wants to take us. As he promised.

You all starting to get the picture now?
83

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 11:02:04
95

And why does nobody want to buy the dungeon brox?
84

N B,

23/07/2008 11:02:45
101#

You don't trust Sir David? Why ever not Swordsman? Any evidence to back up you claims of mistrust?
85

N B,

23/07/2008 11:05:04
101#

..."Would I buy a used car from this man?

That'll be the daewoo
86

N B,

23/07/2008 11:06:51
Must pop off for some lunch now. Keep it nice and friendly guys, it's only a laugh, and a right guid bellylaugh at that.

Anyone want to buy a Daewoo?

Cheerio for now
87

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 11:07:46
99

"Pauling"

What invention....what wit...what R u....16?

88

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 11:08:17
NB..Everytime I see him I'm reminded of Boycie from Only fools and Horses...Just an innate sennse of unease when I see him pull the old smoke and mirrors schtick again...up to your oxters in debt,a team that is a shadow of former self,haggling over second/third tier players and lest we forget,the looming juggernaut that is the SUPER casino...Just because he says it doesn't necessarily mean it is true..Agree?
89

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 11:18:36
Just had a wee read through the posts and would like to tell #27 to either f##k off or arrange a convienient time and place to discuss in person with me why he feels it is acceptable to use my moniker for the forum and throw abuse at people.
Seem reasonable?
90

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 11:19:12
#103
Mibbe cos its not for sale?
91

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 11:19:42
Apparently the UEFA cup is sometimes referred to as The European Cup?

By who?

The only other name that the UEFA Cup is referred to is.......er...The UEFA Cup. Never needed another name as everyone knows what it is and they know that its not the European Cup.

Anyway, NBV seems to drag the thread down with the most nonsensical drivel. I reckon an NB boycott is in order. Lets Boycott the fool, as BA Baraccus might have wrote, had his finger not been to fat to operate a computer!

Agreed?
92

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 12:05:37
Better f*** off or they'll be sorry...hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Woo hoo hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Oh stop it pleeeeeeeze.....oh oh oh wahahahahahahaha

No more no more pleeezzeeeee...hehehahahawoowowowhhwowo..ohohoho..
93

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 12:07:21
Convenient time and place for me is right outside in the Birmingham bullring at this minute, but I guess that's not too convenient for you..wowohohohohoh

mwahahahaha#

hohohohohohoh

hehehehehehe

Oh my fkn sides!
94

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 12:08:42
Hardman alert hardman alert...NOT wohohohohoho

hhahahahahahahahahaha

Be back in a jiffy, dont go away, I'll be back

Oh my sides
95

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 12:26:40
Over an hr since he showed face eh? Ok, I'll be back later to meet the enemy. Before I go..ohohoho hehehehe hahahahaha mwahahahahaha..oh ma sides ma sides..
96

John south of Soutra,

23/07/2008 12:26:41
An article about Scotland and all we have is nonsense about the Old Firm
97

N B,

23/07/2008 12:35:46
#117 John

Your right. What point is it that you want to make?
98

view from the grassy knoll,

23/07/2008 12:50:39
jeez
worst post strings i have ever seen
where is the informed comment and wit usually associated with these links?
anybody read the siberian geologist story on page 1 news?

now that does open up opportunities!
99

N B,

23/07/2008 12:58:24
#119

Think of the comments in the news section to be the sort people make during a lesson. Comments in the sports section are of the type that would be made at playtime.
100

AJ Fife,

23/07/2008 14:19:38
The forthcoming campaign will be exciting for all true Scottish fans. Let's all hope the famous and peace loving Tartan Army won't be hindered by the horrific events in Manchester last season.

I'd like to think the average overseas international supporter is sophisticated enough to tell the difference between the Tartan Army and the Union flag waving terrorists, that follow the infamous Glasgow Rangers!
101

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 14:49:13
#116
you really need to get a life. You assume by meeting to discuss the issue of your wishing to be me I mean to give you a kicking?
Please, im a professional working in psychiatry, it was an offer of help you pillock, however if you feel the need to step up, please be aware that your sides really will be aching.
102

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 14:50:08
#121
not that your generalising or being bigoted in anyway yourself?
103

AJ Fife,

23/07/2008 14:56:46
#123,

If highlighting the fact that RFC have a large minority of specimens from the criminal underclass is being bigoted, then I'm guilty as charged!
104

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 14:58:31
122#
122#

you mean to give me a kicking?
my sides will be aching?

Now that would be an interesting meet right enough. So like I say, where is "convenient" for you, since I assume Birmingham is not?

105

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 15:08:51
Unfortunately living in Glasgow makes that a little difficult, however you must really feel good knowing that you hate your own identity so much you wish to assume anothers, it really does show up your poor self esteem.
As for your reference yet again to violence, growing up in an area where violence was the norm, then working security in that area and managing to do so with no second prizes, combined with the fact that I have studied various martial arts for 29 years, I would advise you strongly, if we were ever to meet to discuss your issues, to think twice.
106

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 15:10:43
#124
AJ, Its more the 'union flag waving terrorists' bit of your post which appears a bit bigoted.
107

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 15:11:32
#127
thats his point in life
108

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 15:25:27
I've come to the conclusion that...Bemused and above it all....is actually one person....

He let the cat out the bag when he mentioned Psychiatry in post 122....

We just need to work out if it's 2 or more voices in his heid that we are trying to rationalise with?
109

Daillyman,

23/07/2008 15:29:09
paulmac

The using of another posters online name is a bit childish, and there semmed to be a couple of kids on this thread today.
110

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 15:31:06
126 - Bemused and above it all - working in security and getting no second prizes?

I take it you specialised in team-handedly beating drunk guys in the kind of attacks that gave your 'security' a bad name for years.

111

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 15:31:09
Right it's time for the Kenny Miller golden goal sweep stake.....

How many playing minutes will Kenny complete before he actually scores?

I'll start it off.....724 minutes...
112

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 15:33:37
theres a bet going around re Kenny Misser and being in the top 5 goalscorers in the SPL this season. I think your getting decent odds at about 3/1.

Personally, I wouldn;t bet on him being in the top 5 goalscorers in my 5 aside team.

I have a vision of him leaving Ipox by the backdoor with his jacket over his head.

What odds a January window free tx for Kenny??
113

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 15:34:44
134 - Do Celtic get any sell-on spondoolix if that ever happens?
114

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 15:38:21
135 - naw, but any wee yins in the govan area can make a fortune by collecting the coins which are belted off the car on the way to the airport.



115

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 15:39:41
Kenny is strongy advised not to throw them back as christ knows where they'll end up.
116

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 15:40:15
136 - I reckon they'd be made to hand them over to 'Minty' to fund a roof repair or something.
117

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 15:41:33
137 - To avoid being hit by any of Kenny's coins; Rearangers fans are advised to stand as near as possible to anything that might be considered as a target for Kenny.
118

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 15:46:43
Even John Clod Archibalds gigantic posterior is at no risk from Kenny in the coin throwing stakes.

Pundit - who was the last striker signed from one of the Edinburgh clubs with a decent scoring record - wasn't it Chris Killen, who was outscoring big Boydie at the time and had a decent record against the ReaRangers.

Just goes to show that form is fleeting.

The guys a dud.
119

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 15:48:18
Boyd will be shown the door by Thursday at midnight.
120

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 15:50:34
142 - So at midnight he will turn into a pumpkin. Its easy if you already are a dumpling.
121

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 15:54:11
using the same pyschic abilities as pundit i can assure you he will be on his way down south for around 15,000 Zimbabwean dollars.
122

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 15:54:33
"2 Heads" Velicka will striggle for double figures this season.
123

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 15:57:07
yea vaglicker will assume the role of Gow this year.
124

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:01:53
That last comment would be hilarious if your English!
125

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:02:52
Pundit - naw he isny. you just think he is cos "walter" told you

your reply to 144 says it all
126

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:03:19
#148 Walter has no say in the matter.
127

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:05:56
149 - i know, they have the premiership and their claiming one upmanship because the team that humped them in the qualifiers done better than the team who humped Scotland.

well done.

Now with Spain winning the Euros and Real Madrid bitch slapping Man U to take Ronalda off them...would you join me in congratulating La Liga as the justified best league in the world?
128

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:06:11
trust me. I know he's leaving. It's all but signed. Just needs to pass a medical. Providing being overweight isn't reason enough to fail it will all go through tomorrow.
129

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 16:10:52
147 - Mwahahahahahhaahaaaaaa yourself. How did England do in the Euro's.

Seriously, I don't recall seeing them there, but I admit I never atched every single game.

130

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 16:13:48
156 - Being overweight is reason to fail a medical. Provided that the other club aren't desperate to buy the player, they have every right to exclaim - "

"fuxake, were no' signing this fat cvnt, it'll take til December to get him down to fightin' weight. Nae fvkin' deal ya shady cvnts!"
131

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:14:30
156 - he has 2 days to lose 4 stone then. It can be done.

I noticed that Stephen Pearson failed a medical at Birmingham due to a groin strain. Thats meticulous.

Compare that with the ReaRangers!!

Rumour has it Minty Moonbeams was signed as a Centre Forward.
132

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:16:27
#160 No, I'm a football manager.
133

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:25:56
This is a text i got from Kris:
Get me oot o this hole.
Ma contract stipulates that i must be the fattest player in the team and that isnae going to happen with JCD hinging aboot. Honestly, Minty is skint. He'll take whatever money is offered. If your looking for a player to loiter aboot the six yard box and look angry for 90 minutes i'm your man.
134

Jealousy,jealousy,

23/07/2008 16:26:13
#161

Suuuuure you are.
135

big bucks,

23/07/2008 16:26:18
According to the Evening times Celtic have quite a few injuries. Joining Ben Huthinson and Paddy McCourt on the sick is Nakamura and mizuno who both need operations,while Cillian Sheridan has a hamstring problem. No truth in the rumour that They meant to get injured to give the teds a chance of getting closethis year.
136

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 16:26:34
If Boyd stays then this season will be the making of him, if he goes then it will be a sad loss
137

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 16:27:42
Ben who?
138

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:28:51
166 - very philosophical. you reading the fortune cookies again??

139

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:30:30
Boyds development has been totally stifled at Ibrox. Playing a handful of games and coming off the bench isn't going to produce a top class striker. That's what he told me anyway.
140

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:36:52
How can you be so sure of who he has spoken to? I cannot say to much on this issue until he puts pen to paper tomorrow(Providing he passes the medical).
141

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:39:34
Then you'll know he's on the verge of leaving unless your 10 percent is heading elsewhere.
142

Bemused and above it all,

23/07/2008 16:40:29
just to run a comparisson,
Boyd phenomenal scoring record, dependable to stick most chances away in the box, developing a bit and showing a bit more to his game but workrate below standard.
In comes, JCD,Cousin, Lafferty, Velicka & Miller, massive competition for places but none have his scoring record.
McCoist, phenomenal scoring record, not the best in terms of work rate, in comes Hateley & Johnston, increased competition.
Worked out ok then didnt it?
143

Star o' Rabbie Burns,

New Cumnock, CUMNOCK 23/07/2008 16:40:34
Guys - the only person who has stifled Kris Boyd's development is Kris Boyd.

I remember watching him and Peter Crouch as the respective centre forwards in a Kilmarnock v Southampton pre-season friendly at the start of the season when KB joined Rangers.

AT the time Boyd and Crouch were the hottest properties in Scotland and England - Crouch looked twice the player Boyd was; he had a great first touch, super movement, linked well with his team mates, he did everyhting Boyd couldn't - except, Boyd scored, he didn't.

I'd still have taken Crouch first.

Back then Jim Jefferies was saying, KB needed to work harder at his game. But he didn't.

Three years on, WS is saying KB needs to work harder, but he still isn't.

A brilliant natural goal-scoring talent, but a waste of space. WS will move him on, sooner or later and in eight to ten years' time, evn fatter than he is now, Boyd will still be scoring goals for Glenafton Athletic, Cumnock or Auchinleck Talbot and telling anyone who will listen: "Ah goat a raw deal when Ra Gers puntit me".

You know what, I won't believe him. He's a disaster waiting to happen, unless someone can get through to him and another contender for our Scotland's Greatest Wasters XI.
144

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:41:27
RIGHT!!THATS IT PUNDIT, I AM REPORTING YOU TO THE RELEVANT AUTHORITIES IMMEDIATELY IF YOU DO NOT RETRACT YOUR POST OF 173.

THIS IS A BLATANT BREACH OF AGENT/CLIENT CONFIDENTIALITY AND IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE, I DEMAND A FULL ENQUIRY.

145

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:41:28
RIGHT!!THATS IT PUNDIT, I AM REPORTING YOU TO THE RELEVANT AUTHORITIES IMMEDIATELY IF YOU DO NOT RETRACT YOUR POST OF 173.

THIS IS A BLATANT BREACH OF AGENT/CLIENT CONFIDENTIALITY AND IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE, I DEMAND A FULL ENQUIRY.

146

Jealousy,jealousy,

23/07/2008 16:42:06
#172
I feel your concern. You can see the headline

"NEMESISOFWILLIAM IN FOOTBALL FORUM LEAK SHOCK!"

That you have managed to keep the secrets of the football world to yourself while constantly having heehaw interesting to say is a credit to you.

Your club and fans should be proud.
147

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 16:43:41
169

Added to the fact.....he puts his weight problem down to the fact he has to share a room on away games with.....5 big macs Charlie Adam....
148

Jealousy,jealousy,

23/07/2008 16:44:25
#177 SOR

Not only did you feel the need to shout it but to shout it twice.

Must be serious.
149

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:44:54
He did strike me as an incredibly arrogant young man. He is convinced he's the finished article and that goal scoring is the only trait he should be measured on. Unfortunately, with the increased competition at Ibrox he sees his chances as limited and is looking for a move to a Championship side.
150

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:45:59
181 - then my prayers to St Lardo, the patron saint of fat feckers are with you.

151

Jealousy,jealousy,

23/07/2008 16:46:45
#180

I would STILL rather have him than VOH.

The both contribute not much when they are not scoring only Boyd scores more and cost a tenth of the price.
152

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:46:45
I'd like to see Boyd hooked up to the technology that measures how many metres a player covers during a game. There were a few hitting 10,000 metres at the Euro's. I reckon his is about 200. Six yard box to half way line when either side scores.
153

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 16:47:23
173

Was that a typo?

Did you mean Auntie?
154

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 16:48:25
187

How do they measure a guy sittin on a bench?
155

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:48:25
182 - i take agent/client confidentiality VERY SERIOUSLY. VERY SERIOUSLY
156

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:51:17
185 - i'll accept your retraction and call off the hounds
157

NemesisofWilliam,

23/07/2008 16:51:30
I must dash. I have an urgent meeting at the All you can eat buffet with some lardy Rangers players. They'll be sitting there covered in noodles and stinking of urine as usual. A move away will be the best thing to happen to one of them.
158

Jealousy,jealousy,

23/07/2008 16:51:46
#190 SOR

(Sarcastic chuckle)
159

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 16:52:44
185

He is listed in the Ibrox pie eatin contest at 9/2....

Behind....

Charlie (steak and Kidney) Adam @ 2/1
2 erses (70 mins tops) Darchville @ 3/1
jester (number 4 sue) McCoist @ 7/2
Kenny (slap heid) McDowell 4/1
160

Jealousy,jealousy,

23/07/2008 16:52:59
#191 SOR

All you lot at Parkhead will be glad to get your wives back then......
161

paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 16:55:38
192

Is that one of those....all you can eat Buffets?

162

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:55:59
Has Kris Boyd eaten Minty Moonbeams?

We haven't seen Minty in some time and Boydy is getting bigger by the day!

I think a stool investigation is in order.

Boydy has been constipated for some time, so I reckon the remnants are there.
163

Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 16:59:54
195 - Don't joke about that I once knew a burd who had come into contact with a Raging Ranger Syndrome Sufferer. Poor thing.

Once the Riot Survivor done one of his "sexual healings" on her she was fine.

Shes bitch number 113 in my harim and always makes an effort to thank me for my intervention.

164

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 17:11:57
As someone said last pre-season, Rangers need to stop signing guys who like like a description of the name 'huhn' and start making signings based on footballing ability.

One look at Kris Boyds fat angry pus and you know if he wasn't playing for Rangers, he'd be chasing policemen down the street in a Rangers strip while supporting them.

Why the big angry pus, kris? Thats what I want to know and I'm not the only one!
165

Mr Hefner,

23/07/2008 17:13:17
196 - Seen that guy from Little Britain not long ago. He's an all you can eat bufftie!
166

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 17:20:35
Evening Lads..All this food related chatter makes me want to watch "Ready Steady Cook"..If Ainsley Harriet wanted a break, we could "Suggest" to Bobo that a stint on nationwide television would boost his flagging career...either that or join big JK at the Culinary Crew at Norwich F.C....Delia? want a tottie?Boydie is half baked at Ibrox...
167

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 17:39:40
Imagine the scene..
SDM,on the recommendation of Gordon Ramsey,is on "Ready Steady cook".
Bobo (for it is he,Standing in for Ainsley).."Welcome to Ready,Steady,Cook,"O.K. SDM you spent a fiver on this Tottie,some surplus lard,a badly damaged cartilage and a sour ploom fizzog..." what do you suggest we cook here...." SDM..."Can we start with Pig's Trotter's a La Broadfoot,a braised Accounts book,with an orange,and sour grape jus,followed by a suggestion of humble pie with a Champagne fizz..If you can find some Champagne at Ibrox....Havent seen any for three years.."
168

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 17:41:19
Pundit..Will it be shown next week or not? Maybe a clash with "Come dine with me " wiil mean SDM will ask for a postponement....?
169

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 17:47:34
Pundit..next Tuesday I will exist on a diet of Andrews Liver Salys and industrial amounts of alcohol as Its my B'day on the Monday...Might watch if I feel the show if I have probs evacuating from either end though...
170

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 17:50:41
Later guys...
171

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23/07/2008 19:11:51
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172

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 20:07:20
APOLOGIES FOR LEAVING SO QUICKLY ...My Salmon Mousse,
Asparagus/Endive salad with homemade Creme Fraiche was getting warm/cold...Nah who am I kidding..Mr Domino the Pizza Guy was at the door...Deep Fried Mars Bars anyone?
173

Swordsman,

Dublin 23/07/2008 20:23:00
JR, Derisory would just about cover that one..Even as an opening gambit,laughable..
Gotta go!Be back after midnight as my ASBO/electronic tag needs to be recharged...Have fun!
174

Rev. S. Campbell,

Bath 23/07/2008 20:49:01
God, Old Firm fans really are a bunch of tedious tools, aren't they?
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 20:53:49
or could it be that Kenneth goes back to the h+ns, takes his 25k/week, and gets on with it?
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 20:54:21
old firm = absolute wash
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Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 20:55:02
214 - never supported a team called "old firm"

what league do the play in??

are you of the same congregation as the rev mike???

are you getting as much loving as he is??

are you from bath or in the bath?? hope you don't electrocute yourself.

och sod it...i'm an athiest, i hope you do!!
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 20:56:17
I'm still upset about the 3-4 game when Barry Lavety scored ( 95? )

Go away you nasty weegies.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 20:57:12
old firm = both as bad as each other = scum
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:00:07
why yu hang bout here?

yu is scum

yu have found it

scum

wha you want?

scum

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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:01:39
no, one old firm, equal distaste.

if i had to pick one to hate more...............
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Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 21:02:28
must be a smack drought in dunedin

surely dunedin is another annex of der engerlundish and by default part of the minty moonbeams empire of raging ranger syndrome sufferers

riot survivors war just got bigger
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 21:04:44
225 SoR

Don't even get involved with him/her.

I dont usually report to mod. but this poster should be reported by everyone.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:04:54
well done minty

with your half arsed outburst you actually raised the average age. It's now 12
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:06:51
scum
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:11:02
The fact that i lived in porty is good, loving that!
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Daillyman,

23/07/2008 21:12:14
JR

On the way out thought I'd check the thread, and on its a "GT".

Speak to later.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

23/07/2008 21:12:36
Logging in, I was amazed to find 220 posts on a Scotland thread, but I only had to read the first one to see the general direction that it had taken.

Amusing to juxtapose the first poster's view with that of the thread's subject, Thierry Henry, for it was indeed, Thierry himself who last season described Barry Ferguson MBE as a "world-class" footballer. Indeed, Barry has a list of personal and team achievements and honours that stand the highest scrutiny, and will be sadly missed by both club and contry in the coming months. I have faith, however, that this long break is a blessing in disguise for the player, and that he will come back fully fit and rested, ready to create a fitting swansong to his remarkable career.

As far as the World Cup qualifying campaign is concerned, the three games in September/October will go a very long way to determining Scotland's fate. Nine points would be fantastic, and seven very good, but the opening match in the oppressive conditions of Macedonia will be a real test. There is a generous amount of decent young talent in our ranks; Gordon, Hutton, McManus, Fletcher, Brown, McFadden etc, but we must come flying out of the blocks.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:12:42
Where did you grow up in edinburgh??

Not that it should be an issue - glasgow teAM and all that.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:14:15
bemused

5 points would be good, bud
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:20:48
As far as the World Cup qualifying campaign is concerned, the three games in September/October will go a very long way to determining Scotland's fate. Nine points would be fantastic, and seven very good

cmon, that was a year ago.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:25:12
JR

I did go to spain every year and in fact got the bike too.

NOt a BMX mind, just a grifter.
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23/07/2008 21:26:28
nineinro


where you from, fuckknuckle?
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:28:22
is that your best?

Mon now fuckknuckle

hellooooooooooooo!!!!
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Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 21:30:33
249 - my 1-2-1 charisma coaching is paying dividends.

that was a decent retort!
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:32:49
I live in Porty so not exactly a horrible fact to hear your wash.
So glad that even though i meet edinburgh folk on line they dont normally defend their nights out immediately, you need to go have a wash.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:37:36
It's a hard life. JR



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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:45:11
But you're not exactly free from comments about your strange facial features.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:46:56
maternal alcohol syndrome?

It's no your fault.
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Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 21:49:15
i reckon in a square go wgs is the hardest manager in the spl

the rest talk a good fight, but wgs delivers
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:54:39
Are you seriously saying thay wee Gordy would last 1min with Yogi?
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 21:55:37
I used to work with yogi and he may not be tall but by god he is wide.
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Guiseppe Tortolano,

23/07/2008 22:01:13
Indeed JR, glad I stayed the right side of him.

Does he still run the pub in Leith, anyone?
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23/07/2008 22:04:43
279 - are you "walter"
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Survivor Of Riots,

23/07/2008 22:20:48
285 - i shall fly a new flag, the tri-tire.

an amalgamation of the irish/scots celtic connection.

the scots came to this island from ireland and the treaty of arbroath was validated by the pope.

i stay true to my roots!!
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2Pasquenade ,

23/07/2008 23:45:29
They aren't called the threadbears for nothing.
Mcoist has dropped the bombshell today : against Kaunas , we go with what we've got.

Mcoist dropped in the usual caveats : if someone becoms available etc ...but the message is pretty clear : Broadfoot will run the flanks in a match potentially worth £10m whilst they try to get to the bottom of Laughrty's back injury (minor; he'll be back for der dog 'n' duck; he'll be back for shalke; it's no' serious; he's still gettin' treatment 'n' it's still no' serious).

Kaunas will be fancying their chances against a team that cannae really score. Sounds like a Novo job to me, but if Rearrangers get two at Ibrox without conceeding, I'll be mildly surprised.

I think Kaunas will get a goal and the second leg will be roller coaster...in the end , I'd fancy Rearrangers to squeeze through, but me thinks it will be as tight as a naff's chuff.
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paulmac,

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Rangers will go with the usual turgid 5-4-1.....

Avoid conceding and hope to hit on the break...at home to Hearts reserves...
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paulmac,

surrey 23/07/2008 23:57:31
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Ermmm.....did they sneak Laffatme on under a different name?

He doesn't appear on the list of the players who played!
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paulmac,

surrey 24/07/2008 00:09:07
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Aye sure!

 

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