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Hibs boss Mixu is a real diamond geezer



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Published Date: 09 October 2008
HIBS boss Mixu Paatelainen has mounted a robust defence of his "diamond" midfield formation insisting it can be a gem of a system for the Easter Road outfit.
Paatelainen's preference for the line-up has been the source of much comment among fans who have questioned its effectiveness.

But while admitting he hasn't got the new system functioning to its maximum, Paatelainen believes it can prove a winner for his players.

He said: "Many people have asked me why we play the diamond shape but I started it because I feel it is a great system to pass the ball. The triangles are there naturally."

Paatelainen agreed, however, that his side need greater width when he deploys a 4-1-2-1-2 formation which sees a holding midfield player working in front of the back four and another more advanced playing behind two strikers.

He said: "I'd agree it sometimes looks a bit narrow, but we are working hard on our full backs and wide midfield players to give us width. I feel our full-backs should be overlapping more, they are a little bit timid for my liking.|

But they look dangerous when Paatelainen abandoned his favoured formation, replacing it with a 4-3-3 at Pittodrie as he started Derek Riordan, Steven Fletcher and Colin Nish together in a three-pronged attack at Pittodrie, the move earning Hibs a vital 2-1 win.

That, he insisted, was just one of many options now available to him. He said: "I feel those three have plenty of goals in them, it's a strikeforce which will give opponents headaches.

"However, while we have that option, it does not mean I will go with those three every week."

Meanwhile, Paatelainen has warned opposition defences that Riordan has still to hit peak fitness despite the fans' favourite scoring three goals since his return to Easter Road.

Although Riordan completed the 90 minutes against Aberdeen, Paatelainen believes he still isn't fit enough to give his all throughout a full match.

He said: "Derek still needs to work on his sharpness. I think he has been looking that bit sharper but I still believe his fitness is not up to 90 minutes but he is working towards that. Maybe with another couple of games we will see the sharp Derek Riordan."


The full article contains 395 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 09 October 2008 11:54 AM
  • Source: Edinburgh Evening News
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Hibernian FC
 
1

Skullduggery,

09/10/2008 11:52:18
Mr Paatelainen you carry on son, doing a fantastic job, i fancy a three goal advantage to the Hibernian, Lets face it scumbo's are not half as good as they like to think they are, infact cert relegation candidates in my opinion,

" later " going for a turkish delight..
2

We love fitba,

google! 09/10/2008 12:04:02
Mixu, if you write the names of your preferred line up on a piece of paper in the preferred 4-1-2-1-2, you'll see that it IS a narrow line-up! The only way to avoid this is for the "2" to wander towards the touchlines, leaving the player ahead of the defence alone and with a very big job to do!

If Hibs had Chelsea's fullbacks then maybe the system would work better but - let's be honest here - they don't.

It makes sense to try new things, but if it ain't working...
3

exile-lad,

09/10/2008 12:04:47
Mixu is the manager let him do what he wants

managers dont have a life long job so let mixu do his job

are we still playing the scumbos or have they gone bust ?

come on the hibees
4

SouthSideHibs,

09/10/2008 12:05:27
#1 STFU about giving Hertz a pasting will you it's getting VERY tedious.

As for the article - Mixu's admits the diamond can make the defence look a bit narrow!!

It doesn't need the wisdom of Solomon to work that out.

My concern is he's too stubborn to see it doesn't really work. We concede too much possession and play dull football.

I can't actually see what the benefit is, other than it lets him play Deano, week in week out.
5

porters at 9,

09/10/2008 12:09:02
imo the diamond hasn't worked.. we don't have pacey enough full backs to turn it from a defensive diamond to an attacking diamond..

Should stick with the 3 up from like he done with Cowdenbeath - athey lost a lot of goals with that formation but outscored most teams which is why they won the league..

time to get sproule back in january mixu
6

Hibs fc - Dublin,

09/10/2008 12:36:36
#4 Do you go to games or a pc fan?
as i dont think yourself you know what your talking about,
go and watch games like the rest of us, before spouting -hite.
7

Victorian-Ian . oap Edinburgh district .,

09/10/2008 12:44:17
Hibs boss Mixu is a real diamond geezer and lets not forget......a big fatty pie eating fatty. Mixu - who ate all the pies?
8

dublinH.F.C.,

DUBLIN 09/10/2008 12:53:23
sproule wont be back.....but lets spend the next 3 months campaigning for it anyway......2 years later deek came back!!

Hibs 3 - 0 Vermin.....and fek all the "fans" going on about "tight game" this and "shade" a victory garbage.....hearts are sheeite, absolutely nothing to fear there at all, they are prime for a hiding simple as that
9

Neutral Observer,

09/10/2008 12:57:39
The diamond formation can only work with very fast (winger like) full backs but still leaves the defence vulnerable to quick counter attacks up the flanks. When Whittaker and Murphy were playing as attacking wing backs, the team was exciting to watch but again if the opposition cleared the ball quickly, thet left holes in the defence. In using players like Keenan, Rankin, Shiels and Morais, Hibs are also week defensively in the midfield as non of these, with the possible exception of Keenan can play a real midfield role. Keenan is a bit light weight.
10

Neutral Observer,

09/10/2008 12:58:46
Post #9

I mean WEAK defensively.
11

NYC Hibee,

edinburgh 09/10/2008 13:02:19
Why has football become so complicated? Any system deployed has got to counter the opposition's in some way so I reckon the whole thing is a waste of time.
Just concentrate passing and moving, marking and tackling - basic stuff!
12

Phil MaGlass,

Holland 09/10/2008 13:08:42
DIAMOND DOESNAE WORK, why do you think were getting over run in midfield,Mixu nae clue.
13

1875,

09/10/2008 13:11:08
Justheard from 2 different sources within 10 mins of each other that Hibs have secured Jonatan Johannson's signature. Apparently he'll be joining the Glorious Hibees in January.

Now, if this is true, this will give us a number of strikers so is Mixu ditching the midfield?? I feel a 4-2-4 coming on!!

Anyway, I reckon 2-0 to Hibs next Saturday
14

1875,

09/10/2008 13:12:05
.............sorry, next Sunday!
15

nostress,

grangemouth 09/10/2008 13:16:53
Where it's really obvious that this system doesn't work with the players we have available is when the opposition get posession when our passing breaks down and they have options to play the ball wide as we have no cover on either flank. Fair enough if we were Barcelona and had the players who could control the ball, but we're not! The Motherwell and Dundee Utd games were prime examples of that.
16

East at Easter,

Edinburgh 09/10/2008 13:25:07
i dont think Hibs will tank Hearts but i do think Hibs will scrape a win.
17

Aliistair,

Sunny Leith 09/10/2008 13:28:20
RE 13

If Johanson joins we'll only be one man away from recreating the Famous Five!!!!

Interesting
18

Aliistair,

Sunny Leith 09/10/2008 13:29:24
Re 13

GOT IT! Fifth member SPROULE

YES!
19

P u n d i t,

09/10/2008 13:33:59
The only way johanson would come is if O'Brien left!!!!!!!!
20

1875,

09/10/2008 13:34:39
17 and 18...Its as if it were written! Get Ivan back!!
21

Neutral Observer,

09/10/2008 13:36:10
#17 Alastair

Dont forget that the famous 5 had 2 attacking midfield players (known as inside forwards) in Johnstone and Turnbull plus 2 wingers and a centre forward. So really the teams then played a 3 - 2 -2 -3 formation with the 2 wing halfs as the defensive element of the midfield.

Son of Crampsey
22

1875,

09/10/2008 13:43:49
19: Why? Do they not get on?!
I think Mixu is looking at a strong squad but i feel he is perhaps strengthening in the wrong areas as he needs a good Centre Midfielder or 2.

Got my man in the media looking into the story now to confirm if poss
23

Ayegudyin,

09/10/2008 13:48:10
4-2-4... what a formation that would be. games would be 10-7 or 15-12, real end to end stuff with hatricks all over the place.

or we could just not bother buying any more strikers and get some midfielders and defenders who can hold this formation up.

tbh, if we have just signed JJ, I can't see fletcher being around past january. maybe that will free us up to go in for a couple championship fullbacks who don't mind being paid peanuts, or even an aging financially secure premiership reserve player who's desperate for first team football... yeah right.

lets be real. we have no midfield and shakey defense, we need to move the ball as a unit, the fancy flick ons and playing threaded passes only works when they don't leave us open after we inevitabely lose the ball.
24

Green tinted glasses,

I got my green shoes on la la la. 09/10/2008 13:51:52
Even a goal to nil would do, just to shut them up, big team this, big team that, with there fan base of 15k [ if they play well]............
25

Victorian-Ian . oap Edinburgh district .,

09/10/2008 13:53:25
#24 I agree. But we can hardly slag off the Hearts support. We only get about 9500 fans for any home game.
26

Green tinted glasses,

09/10/2008 13:53:46
Fancy a good scrap between bamba and the good looking guy ? eh kingston.
lmao.
27

Green tinted glasses,

09/10/2008 13:54:39
#25 Grrrr - Woof woof.
28

Green tinted glasses,

09/10/2008 14:08:13
" Classic times " Remember deano and craig gordon!!

Brilliant times......
29

Hibby Fox,

09/10/2008 14:10:05
Mixu, being at the disaster that was the gubbing by the Gers with your excellent "diamond" as a Hibby my money is going on the Jambo's, Ffs do you never learn Mixu, The diamond does not work get a new strategy and new coaching staff.
30

Harold Bishop is the original John Darwin.,

09/10/2008 14:25:41
Close game I think. All you Hibbys are getting far to carried away, how many times have you bigged yourselves up only to get humped...

Big team BIG cup, wee team wee cup....
31

sangriaboy,

malaga 09/10/2008 14:34:06
Ian Victorian 7...

Are you a wee bit o a fatty?

Its all you seem to comment on every day.

were you bullied at school-just because of your looks or your size?
32

Rolland,

09/10/2008 14:42:52
Yeah Hibs are the form team right enough, winning up at sheep land even though it was offside and should never have been a penalty. Still all us Jambo's are bricking it at the thought of having to face the great big massive Hoobs team with all the flair and wonderful international class players.

Keep the confidence high lads thats just the way we like it, it always results in us making you look like the fools you are. Keep predicting the 3 nils its just the way we like.

p.s. are you sure we won't be in Adminstration by then ?

p.p.s look out for ex Jambo great making a return to the fold before the derby shall we say someone to mark ratboy out the game.
33

Gaz 1173,

09/10/2008 14:57:16
#32 Yeah the confidence is high when it comes to playing a bunch of disorganised heartless huddies, and personally I feel a 3 - 0 defeat would be the best you can hope for - I think 5 or 6 is a very distinct possibility!!! As for marking Deek out the game - give it your best shot but he's on a hat trick at least.

GGTTH
34

rosco.1875,

09/10/2008 15:02:21
#32 Alan Maybury?! You having a giraffe, I'd be more concerned if Robbie Neilson was playing. Although can see why just any sort of signing would get you excited. Not even a no-mark lithuanian, thats a step in the right direction. But we both know he must be going cheap.

Hearts are a poor team and if the Hibs are fired up for this one, which am 99.9% sure everyone of them will be, should be a great day.

GG2TH
35

Rolland,

09/10/2008 15:10:43
#33 & #34 Keep it coming lads, just make sure you on these boards on the 20th.

Not Maybury, so think again, a fair bit older than maybs, and someone that will perhaps not mark Deek but certainly take him out the game :-) I for one can't wait to dish out another hobo bashing.
36

dublinH.F.C.,

DUBLIN 09/10/2008 15:25:20
35

rolly you are a jobbie......only thing you'll be bashing is your little bishop....now scurry along with your dreams of Elvis.....I hope he is playing for you he's murder!!! he would be tortured for 90 mins......it would round off my day if he was playing for you!!!
37

SouthSideHibs,

09/10/2008 15:27:00
Skullduggery/Hibs FC Dublin. Aka Green Penguin Mixu 6-2 et al

I can always tell it's you because your English is SO poor.

And you always go on about beating the Yams before the game, for weeks on end. Then you disappear after the result.

Do us all a favour kn0b 'ed and do one would you. You are unbelievably tedious.

I used to suspect you were a Yam on a wind up but I now actually think you are, unfortunately a Hibs supporter, who just gives the rest of us, with a brain, and something decent to say - Lenny, Neutral, Dood, Dublin etc, Pike a very bad name.

Do one choob, we're all laughing at you now. Got it?

38

Rolland,

09/10/2008 15:34:41
Well Serg even your own don't want you, no wonder you spent 18 months slagging them off on these boards making out you were a Jambo. You reap what you sow and all that.
39

1875,

09/10/2008 15:38:27
We can all say what we like about who will win and who has the right to be more confident but the facts remain...
Both defences are keek, Yams midfield has the edge over Hibs but Hibs have far and away the better goal threat up front.
On the basis that you need to score goals to win games I reckon Hibs will win this. Hearts will focus on not losing as opposed to winning but over 90 minutes we will create chances and "ratboy" wont miss them
40

SouthSideHibs,

09/10/2008 15:43:34
Rollie - not sure this is Serg, I think Serg, or the one I'm thinking of has a few more brain cells than this dodo.
41

SouthSideHibs,

09/10/2008 15:44:33
BTW the Derby has draw written all over it. Which would be a good result for the Jumbos.
42

Rolland,

09/10/2008 16:00:18
Indeed I'd take a draw, we are having trouble hitting the back of the net of late so would take a draw in a derby away from home under those circumstances. Still think someone will win it, don't think Hibs will settle for a draw, thing the will push for the winner. They'll either get or leave the back door open and we will sneek in like stampy did at ER and nick the points.
43

Hibs fc - Dublin,

09/10/2008 16:07:55
SouthSideHibs
sorry to disappoint you but you are mile out with the guessing game, so you dont like getting told off, you wee midden that you are, its called dishing but not taking, you wee midden that you are, your name says it all (southsider) dragged up were we?
start going to games you midden.
44

Hibs fc - Dublin,

09/10/2008 16:17:04
You mother used to help the guys out in the white house until it closed, then it was the tavern until the same happened.TW@T
45

dublinH.F.C.,

DUBLIN 09/10/2008 16:36:48
where in Dublin are you from exactly?
46

Back-in-the-mixu,

09/10/2008 17:34:20
Just heard from an impecable source that the Yams are going into administration tomorrow. Not the first such post on these threads I know but this one is correct.
47

they aint won the cup since 1902,

jt`s 09/10/2008 18:29:41
That source never happened to be the man himself mr skullbuggery. Or the wee old guy lying upside down behind the pool table in the loch inn perhaps. dream on #46.
48

mcaitchi,

hibs 09/10/2008 19:05:09
47# - Your very good - at Killing the Threads eh ??

you even stopped the hearts thread !!! ffs

explain " Old Guy Lying - Upside Down" ??
49

Legend.,

09/10/2008 19:09:10
post 47 is the eejit everton/jambo.
50

mcaitchi,

hibs 09/10/2008 20:04:34
post 47# - think it ewan cameroon fae real gash radio
51

Skullduggery,

09/10/2008 21:32:09
#37 southsiderhibs
dont bring me into your fracas - whats the green, penguin, mixu62 about, are you a nutter ?
52

Skullduggery,

09/10/2008 21:33:57
I would not except a free holiday in dubs,
and its chube is it not ?
53

Dood,

09/10/2008 21:53:29
Jeez, these threads really are being dragged down by the halfwits. At this rate, I can see them going the same way as the Ugly Sisters threads, ie - pulled by the moderator.

There was a time where the main debate was football, with a decent bit of banter thrown in. Aye, the occasional halfwit popped up but they were generally rare. Now, the lunatics seem to have taken over. Today seems to have gone a long way to proving that.

Back to the fitba.....

Mixu - give it up man. You largely abandoned the diamond on Saturday, changed the personnel that even the halfwits could see needed changing, and hey presto!!!! Result!!! Why defend the diamond? Sure it may have its place, but not every week. If we had the correct players, maybe, but we just don't have players suited just now. What we have got it players capable of effectively playing in a 442 or 433.

PS - An edition not featuring the name Filipe Morais. Keep it coming..........
54

mcaitchi,

hibs 09/10/2008 21:56:54
53# - AYE

The diamond is not right ??

Rangers played the same UGLY football and nearly won the league ??

Dont think our defense can handle Ugly fitba ??
55

Green tinted glasses,

.........Specksavers 09/10/2008 22:21:35
Would like to see the 3 up front for another 3/4 games,
catch a few teams out i think.
56

Naeboz,

10/10/2008 11:59:57
I hope Mixu persists with the diamond. Having wee Driver running at you wide on the left and Larry wide on the right and Miko diving anywhere in the box will see you off fairly easily. The only positions where we are good is goig forward in wide positions. Mixu's diamond is perfect for us.

I'm worried about Ratboy though, so hopefully he'll get stretchered early doors after we've scored a couple.

 

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