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McCoist lays into sloppy Rangers for adding to fixture congestion



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Published Date: 20 March 2008
RANGERS last night spared themselves from suffering one of the biggest Scottish Cup upsets in their history but were unable to avoid adding another fixture to their already congested schedule.
Their pursuit of glory in the SPL, Scottish Cup and Uefa Cup to add to last Sunday's CIS Insurance Cup final win looks to be taking its toll on Rangers, who had to come from behind to force a 1-1 draw against Partick Thistle in their quarter-final tie at Ibrox.

With no free midweek dates available because of Scotland's friendly against Croatia next Wednesday, then Rangers' two-legged Uefa Cup quarter-final against Sporting Lisbon on 3 and 10 April, the Firhill replay against the mid-table First Division side is likely to go ahead on 13 April, which is the scheduled slot for the semi-final against St Johnstone.

Ally McCoist, Rangers' assistant manager, admitted that the fixtures backlog is causing increasing concern.

"A replay was the last thing we wanted," he said. "It is another fixture, which we could do without, but we just have to get on with it. I've got no idea when the replay will be, but we will have to be ready for it when it comes around."

McCoist expressed his disappointment at the poverty of Rangers' performance on a night when they made six changes to the starting line-up which had beaten Dundee United after extra time and penalties at Hampden.

"I thought we would be a lot better than that," he said. "We were really poor tonight. I'm delighted we are still in the cup, although as badly as we played, I don't think we deserved to lose the game.

"Our use of the ball in the final third of the pitch just wasn't good enough. With the changes we made, I expected it might take us longer to get going, but we never really got started at all. To win anything in modern football, you need a squad of more than 20 players who can come in and contribute.

"I'm not sure fatigue was the reason for our performance. It was more about ability. The lads have been brilliant recently and have deservedly received a lot of praise, but they deserve criticism when they play as they did tonight."

Damon Gray, the 19-year-old English striker on loan from Hibs, gave Thistle a 67th-minute lead but they were able to hold it for less than two minutes before Kris Boyd scrambled home his 21st goal of the season.

"If we had kept the lead for another five minutes, we could have won the game," said Thistle manager Ian McCall. "There was an element of fortune in Rangers' goal, but Kris Boyd scores fortunate goals and that's the sign of a great striker.

"I thought our team showed real balls to take possession and pass it the way they did tonight, rather than just kick it away. We have seen a lot of shocks in the cups on both sides of the border this season and, who knows, there might be another one."

It remains to be seen if goalscorer Gray will be in the Thistle line-up for the replay. His loan period expires this weekend and he is due to return to Hibs on Monday.

"I'll speak to Hibs and I would like to stay for the replay," said Gray. "I want to play for Hibs' first team, but if that's not happening then I'd be happy to stay with Thistle until the end of the season."

Rangers captain Barry Ferguson missed last night's match, but is expected to return for the SPL fixture against Hibs on Saturday. The midfielder saw a specialist on Tuesday but will not require surgery on a persistent ankle injury until the end of the season.

The full article contains 646 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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1

I-Mac,

20/03/2008 00:06:14
The Jags did well. Rangers didn't. But the Gers are still in the Cup.

Will the replay now be next week with Gers players being withdrawn from the Scotland squad?
2

North of the Border,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 00:33:58
After a tight and tough match in Bremen and a VERY close shave at the weekend, this sort of thing was always on the cards. But at the end of the day, against the grain, Rangers won silverware on Sunday and tonight pulled back from the brink. This might be the scare Rangers need. Sure an extra fixture is the last thing needed right now but still to be in the hunt is the key. It seems that despite the poor run of form Rangers just don't know how to go down. If they can use this scare to regroup and get things together again then it truly is time for Timmy to be very afraid!
3

Surelynot,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 00:47:29
Would this be 'one of the biggest cup upsets in their history'? Compared to Berwick Rangers and Hamilton? Na.
Good to see the headline changed from Partick going through.Hope some drunk journo got the sack.
Poor stuff 'Scotsman'. Standards, standards.
4

Pat the Hat,

Baile atha Cliath 20/03/2008 00:48:20
This motley crew of scufflers are out on their feet and only Celtic's poor form is taking scrutiny away from a team that were outclassed but clung on to a 1-0 defeat by their fingertips, relied on yet another "poor" decision by an "unsighted" referee to scab a draw against the Arabs, and scraped another draw at home against a lower division side.

They now have at least six games more to play than Celtic.

A puff of wind will blow this lot over. Wish I could be sure that Celtic could summon up even that!
5

Doubly-negative,

20/03/2008 00:59:30
Never mind lads, these days you DO get a second bite at the OF!

6

Surelynot,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 01:06:24
#7 As the Dons have shown, second chances can be taken.
#5 Ah, referees. If it wasn't for you pesky referees I'd have got clean away!
Two poor teams followed by a motley bunch of also rans. If Burley ewas still at Hearts!
7

Surelynot,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 01:07:05
And I could spell!
8

wes mantooth,

20/03/2008 01:11:38
well done thistle.

this is the kind of result that would fill me with hope were celtic not on such a horrific run of form.
9

Gators,

Asheville N Carolina 20/03/2008 01:28:16

Good showing by thistle. As a celtic supporter I would have bet the house on the Gers but it is nice to see the "wee" teams do well.

Celtic need to get rid of Strachan, he has not a clue, look at the rubbish he has bought, Gravesend, Donati,Sno, and has Riordan sitting on the bench. He never seems to know whom to play,chenges the side like he changes his socks. Pity we do not have a manager like Smith or even Mc Leish. Will the gers win the league? No Problem
10

Raskolnikov,

20/03/2008 01:33:40
Looks like the Rangers roller-coaster is coming to an ignominious halt. Form is dipping and yet another fixture is added to the mix, while Celtic have only the SPL title to fight for, and there could be large dollops of egg on a lot of blue noses come prize-giving day.

Gers fans have been coming on here for weeks claiming that Rangers "have a clear run to the Scottish Cup final" - Dubalamanzi, Encephalon, Mabawza, The Boke, Bring Them On, Bemused Exile, Andy White, Another King of Spain and one or two others.

How stupid do these idiots sound now?

That is what comes of such breathtaking arrogance.

Make no mistake - the Celtic players are hurting right now, and they will be more determined than ever not to let their SPL title go to a dire, uninspiring and soporific Rangers side.

3 in a row, watch us go.
11

Raskolnikov,

20/03/2008 01:41:54
#14 - I'm not talking about one game matey.
12

wes mantooth,

20/03/2008 01:45:06
13 raskolnikov "Make no mistake - the Celtic players are hurting right now, and they will be more determined than ever not to let their SPL title go to a dire, uninspiring and soporific Rangers side."

-----------

i certainly hope you're right, the trouble is i'm not sure some of this celtic side are hurting. certain players should be getting their balls booted at the moment. celtic need to show a great deal more fight than they have been if they're going to emerge on top.
13

Raskolnikov,

20/03/2008 01:52:18
#17 - That post just does not make sense.

WTF are you on about?
14

Raskolnikov,

20/03/2008 02:01:08
#19 - So are you saying that if Rangers win the CIS Cup and the Scottish Cup and Celtic win the SPL title, you would see that as Rangers being the more successful?

Get real.
15

Princess Kevin,

Glasgae 20/03/2008 02:37:57
Well good playing Partick, Rangers good too, but Partick good also. 1-1 wow. Congratulation Partick, hope win replay. Good.
16

Darling On Severn,

Reykjavík 20/03/2008 02:41:58
#22 I like partick too, are you near Reykjavík? We could go to a game together. Good.
17

jamtart,

Beechboro 20/03/2008 02:49:42
Just a hickup for the Glorious Glasgow Rangers,they WILL win the cup and the league and the UEFA cup.The tic cupboard will be bare again.NO Chance 3 in a row for smelltic.GRITT.Hullo,hullo
18

jamtart,

Beechboro 20/03/2008 02:51:00
sorry hiccup see I can spell
19

Macca Ray Dudley,

Houston TX 20/03/2008 03:26:30
Rangers are always below par the weekend after a tough mid week game against top class European opposition. Before the jags they has a European game and a cup final. There are too many meaningless games in Scotland. We play more games in our league and have 2 domestic cup competition. I think that hurts the quality of football. I think we should scrap the CIS cup and alter the league format further to reduce the number of league games to around 30.
20

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20/03/2008 04:01:38
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21

kenny mcg,

20/03/2008 05:38:13
Our Celtic supporting friends will be on gloating about this result thinking this is a wee bit of light at the end of their long dark tunnel. I would be wary about what i say until the final whistle of the replay. Rangers simply took The Jags for granted and foolishly never showed enough respect. Gers assumed this game to be a foregone conclusion, we've seen it all before. One thing is for certain. It will be a more clinical Gers team for the return.

Treble winners, watch us go!!
22

Dabulamanzi,

20/03/2008 05:50:40
#5 Well done Michael, you managed to post without resorting to your usual bigoted bile. The medication is working.

#13 Princess, you will have to rely on amiracle if you are to provide a post from me stating "Rangers have a clear run to the Scottish Cup final". I have never said such thing. For the record it is my view that the SPL title chase will go down to the wire. I never write off celtc under any circumstances.As for the Scottish cup if we beat Partick in the replay we will progress to the final but there lies Aberdeen. So no certainty there. I think we will exit the UEFA cup at this round.
23

mybestmatesa,

johannesburg 20/03/2008 06:05:44
A few nervous minutes last night. I suppose the fact theat the gers are still in the cup is comforting, but f**k me that kind of result against the Magyars must have had all the tims laughing at roll call this morning.
24

FAN OF GERRY,

glasgow 20/03/2008 06:06:33
#13 The Rangers fans you mention are no different from the many celtic minded who have bombarded these sites with their vitriol. They have said on many occasions, as have you, that three in a row is a certainty. If then it doesn't happen will they, and you, have the proverbial egg on the face? Boasting isn't restricted to one side you know....
Anyway to last night, hopefuly that performance will show the players that nothing comes easy and you have to fight. Hopefuly, come saturday it will be normal service resumed.
25

FAN OF GERRY,

20/03/2008 06:10:04
#4 surely if thistle had won it would have eclipsed Hamilton as they were a premier division side.....
26

Media 1,

cape town 20/03/2008 06:23:39
That was almost a great result for Scottish Football. Lets be honest, Rangers can afford to miss out on another cup, but Partick Thistle could have been in a semi against St Johnstone! Oh well, maybe next time.

I have been asking for years why it is that domestic cups are replayed. They should be sorted out on the night with no replay! And howcome one team gets 90 minutes at home, then if its a replay the other side gets an extra half an hour at home? Should they not just go straight to penalties?
Its a cup,its drawn out a hat, so it should be one game and straight to penalties.
Partick Thistle went to Ibrox last night and did really well. Why should they need to replay Rangers? Surely it would be more fair if they had been given a chance to win it on penalties last night?
27

The Borgia,s PR. Company,

Govan 20/03/2008 06:24:14
I think even the most committed P/T fan will privately admit to themselves that their chance is gone and Rangers will wipe the floor with them in the replay,we had to rest some players last night for obvious reasons and the players who came in underperformed and that won,t happen again,nice to have a wake up call draw to keep us on our toes for league business this weekend but what has happened to Smith and Webster why are they not coming back into the reckoning?
28

Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 06:28:22
I think last night proved that Rangers need other options up front. Final count last time I looked last night was 14 shots not on target and the same amount of corners. That is ridiculous and says it all. Defence and midfield wise last night didn't sound so bad on the radio but the forward line seemed to be dire.
29

tomislav,

Serbian Loyal RSC 20/03/2008 06:35:28
I am a bit confused here,,,, McCoist says a replay was the LAST thing we wanted,,,,, sorry Ally, to my mind a defeat was the last thing we wanted
30

Media 1,

cape town 20/03/2008 06:35:59
The speculation is pointless, all you we can actually refer to is the facts.

Rangers are League Cup Champions.
Rangers are STILL in the Scottish Cup.
Rangers are top of the league.
Rangers ARE in the last 8 of the uefa cup.

These are the facts, speaking about what might happen is pointless. Celtic fans are so utterly devastated at the moment, they need to cling to whatever hope they can. Be interesting to see how Rangers handle Hibs on Saturday!
Thistle were unlucky, it would have been great for them to get through last night.
31

tomislav,

Serbian Loyal RSC 20/03/2008 06:42:51
C,mon lads, have a heart, well done Thistle ,,,, I mean honestly, to us this season, one cup more or less wont make that much of a difference
32

Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 20/03/2008 06:54:52
Scottish football is just a joke, there is not one team at present that would last in the English Premiership!
33

Blues Brother,

edinburgh 20/03/2008 07:13:27
Post 5....Pat the Hat. Thankyou....you said something really telling for a change....and I quote....'Rangers have AT LEAST six more games to play than Celtic' You obviously meant by your point that our extra number of fixtures would give you more of an opportunity to win the SPL. However, the way I see it is quite simple. We are having a very successful season. We are still fighting for four prizes. We are paying the price of success. Meanwhile, your lot, will play at least six games LESS than us. Why? Well - you are a bunch of losers. So Patty boy many thanks for pointing this out to us. Really appreciated.

Have I ever said to you...We really are the people?
34

Bosco Bhoy,

20/03/2008 07:14:18
On a night when Rangers struggled to not lose against the mighty Partick thistle we have nearly 700 posts on 1 thread with many of them telling us how RFC were so damn brilliant and how Celtic would have no chance in any of the 3 derby matches.

Think again boys as we are both mediocre so its going to be about who is the least mediocre and IMHO if we can get our players at CP to give anything close to say 80% of their potential then the title can be retained.

WGS has done brilliant at Celtic but this season most of his signings have failed to deliver in a season were most of RFC have been very effective at aiding the cause thus the gap in the league.However the next 2 months will be about quality and class not just organisation and effort and therefore i can see the title party will be green and white once again.

41 Celtic bhoy

You might be right but more relevant would be to point out that Scottish football finances is a joke compared to the EPL. Celtic and RFC can only sign who they can afford and that nowadays means often sub standard EPL players. Its not rocket science.
35

Bosco Bhoy,

20/03/2008 07:16:14
"We really are the people"

Delighted no Celt ever comes away with that Ayrian race mindset pi8h.
36

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 07:18:35
41. Is that the same English Premisership that has not one team left in the UEFA Cup. Is that the same English Premisership that boasts world class names such as Derby, Fulham, Sunderland, Wigan, Reading, etc etc. The Premisership has around six special teams with the rest nothing more than cannon fodder. Given the money the Premisership generates and a couple of seasons Rangers and Celtic would slowly find their level in the Premiership and eventually dine at the top table. Now away and get ready for school.
37

Gdgy,

dundy 20/03/2008 07:22:00
Rnagers were lucky but their luck has been outstanding since the flukey goals against Bremen and the get out of jail passback against united on sunday...when will their luck run out?
38

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 07:22:33
44. Bosco Boy. That is a very silly and very ill informed remark. It saddens me to have to slap you down or even acknowledge you are on here. However, if that claptrap is the best you can come up with then I suppose I can live with it. St John Bosco would be bitterly disappointed that one of his flock was reduced to such petty name calling. So take that as a gentle slap across your already well worn knuckles.

Hey....Bosco.....Have I ever told you.....personally....that we really are the people?
39

Bosco Bhoy,

20/03/2008 07:31:18
47 blues bro

By the childish tone of your response it seems you may feel that the WATP thing 'winds' me up but it doesnt.

It saddens me that you cant keep it out of a footie forum and it will only embarress your fellow bears and it certainly not what Mr Murray wishes to hear around Ibrox, but hey you tell yourself its OK this fine Holy Thurday morning if that the way to go.
40

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 07:38:55
I know I should'nt. I know that I really should just ignore you.....but....this is a Rangers thread. It's talking about a Rangers game. Therefore I will comment whatever way I want. We are the people is used by ALL Rangers supporters. You lot have tried to rid us of all our heritage. Now you are trying to take away fun elements as well. But BBoy. It does wind you up. And of that I am pleased. I think David Murray will be fine with this. Do you know him personally? I will ask him the next time I see him. And finally my little zealot since my wife is a teacher in a Roman Catholic Seconday school I am well aware that this is Holy week.

But Bosco....can I say something just between us.....She is one of the we are the people as well.....XX
41

Bosco Bhoy,

20/03/2008 07:40:56
Blues 49

She not your wife, shes your teacher and your in 2nd year by the sounds of it.

See ya, muppet.

WATP
Our 'Heritage'
LOL
42

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20/03/2008 07:40:57
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43

Bosco Bhoy,

20/03/2008 07:42:02
BTW

Murray has banned much of your so called heritage in recent years so think again what is acceptable to decent bears.
44

Blues Brother,

20/03/2008 07:48:19
50. Bosco Boy. How long do they give you on the PCs at Barlinnie? Is it not about time for slop out? And trust me ye who flails himself - our heritage is still very much intact.

PS.....congratulations to Thistle and Ian McCall last night. Excellent performance.

Now Bosco.....repeat this as if it were the three times table (you know the one you were doing yesterday)....We really are the people.
45

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 07:51:22
And finally Bosco (I know that you will want to get on with slopping out). I am willing to take the slings and arrows from other genuine Rangers supporters if I have caused offence by using the term....We are the people. However, I will not apolgise to an idiot like you with such a chip on their shoulder.

Bosco....go on admit it it really does wind you up me saying....WE ARE THE PEOPLE!!!!!
46

idee fixe.,

C.I.S. Corruption Is Successful !!! 20/03/2008 07:52:11
All honest to themselves Ragz fanz realise that this is what happens when a degree of fairness and honsty is shown by the referee on the day.
The only lapse Ian Brines had in carrying out his professional refereeing duties were when he should have sent Broadfoot off for his second bookable.
That would have been a bridge too far on the night for Ragz to overcome, so Brines failed at that juncture.

No show of blatant corruption shown in favour of Ragz last night, as was demonstrated by Kenny Clark in last Sundays Corruption Is Successful cup final though.
Thats progress!

Sad.
Isn`t it.
47

Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 07:52:25
54 - Read that again, are you telling Bosco that he's one of the people?


48

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 07:54:52
Dear Hughie....if he wants to come and join us and he can repeat a whole sentence without having to refer to notes then I would be delighted to accept him into the fold.
49

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 08:03:11
Fellow Blues Brothers. Slopping out time at Barlinnie must have staggered times. Have you noticed that Hugh Heffner, Idee Fixie and Bosco Boy never post at the sametime? There always seems to be this gap. Either that or they are actually one and the same person. But do you know. Deep down I admire them. Limited time on the PC (or a secret Blackberry); slopping out and then the exercise yard but they still have time to come on here and chide us. Thats dedication.
50

jdships,

20/03/2008 08:08:40
Nigh on 60 posts and hardly anyone has said

WELL DONE JAGS !

Well I as a neutral certainly do 11
51

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 08:10:45
Post 62. Please see Post 54. And I repeat. Well done Partick Thistle.
52

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 08:17:00
Please see my Post 60. The Daily Record this morning has backed up my theory. Front page splash - The Cell Phone Scandal!!! Crooks are flooding Scotland's prisons with illicit mobile phones!!!!!! That clever little threesome have gone and got themselves communication to the outside world. !!!
53

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 08:21:23
66. Pretending to be a boy when his name is actually Susan.
54

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 08:26:24
Gosh!!! How did he/she manage to get served with drink when he/she is only four?
55

Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 08:35:29
43 "we have nearly 700 posts on 1 thread with many of them telling us how RFC were so damn brilliant"
Nope. Most people just said they thought we were better than Celtic at the moment,
56

Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 08:37:53
44 Bosco Absolute tripe and I hope you are joking.
57

Blues Brother,

Edinburgh 20/03/2008 08:45:32
71. Alas I think he is serious. See his follow up posts.
58

Berty Hamish,

Vienna 20/03/2008 08:45:48
#36 you're spot on.

I am THE most optimistic of jags fans, but we have to be honest... Rangers had to rest a few key players, thistle knew this and relised it was their one shot at glory and gave everything. The replay will be different, rangers will field a stronger team now they realise just how close they were to looking stupid.
59

Johnny G,

20/03/2008 08:47:10
13

You guys have been telling us you were certs for three in a row all season.

Both groups of fans have hopeless optimists who are detached from reality. It's that simple.
60

Johnny G,

20/03/2008 08:49:55
44

Aryan race? What the hell are you banging on about?
61

The Diamond,

Glasgow 20/03/2008 08:51:41
I was at the game last night and was impressed by Thistle.

Rangers were stale and could have gone out.

Up front we were shockingly inept and the reappearance of Burke had me raging. Wimp.

We're still there however but we need to do something about our inability to pass the ball to other members of the team.
62

LyonHearts,

le teil 20/03/2008 08:52:04
Brilliant result and the more fixtures Rangers have the better - they probably didn't take Thistle seriously enough and paid the price!

Magic result for the rest of Scottish football and let's hope that there are no OF in the semi finals - that would be a breath of fresh air for all of Scottish football
63

Johnny G,

20/03/2008 08:53:23
46

You make your own luck in this game, or so we're told every time Celtc score in the last ten minutes.

If you knew anything about the beautiful game you'd admit that Boyd's finish from the passback was a sublime piece of striking. He started his run before kerr had even kicked the ball.
64

Johnny G,

20/03/2008 08:55:11
51

You're setting yourself up for more disappointment. Keep it up.
65

Johnny G,

20/03/2008 08:56:58
Idee, would that be the same Brines that the celtic minded were calling a masonic bstard just weeks ago?

Right you are guv'
66

Johnny G,

20/03/2008 08:59:44
70

Correct. One post even said Rangers were poor, but less poor than our east end cousins.

Why let the facts get in the way of lies and propaganda though?
67

Johnny G,

20/03/2008 09:00:59
78

Why would a Hearts fan be so concerned about Rangers fixture list? Pray tell.
68

Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 09:05:13
Glad to see that Sportscene has recovered some of its credibility by focussing attention on the Broadfoot incident.

There wasn't a peep out of them about the Cuellar incident after the CIS final , which I thought was cowardly.

But they'd obviously decided that turning a blind eye again would start to make them look like part of the show.

So well done to Douge Donnelly and guests for highlighting yet another contraversial refereeing decision that has saved Rangers' bacon this season.

Brines I fear fell into the same trap as Kenny Clark...he simply bottled it.
Referees in Scotland are either Rangers fans with whistles or too terrified to upset the fanatical and violent element that follow Rangers.
Quite reasonably, there is more to fear than having your windows put in by some of these chaps.

So, the CIS is at Ibrox because Clark bottled it, and I believe that Rangers are still in the SC because Brines bottled it.

I hope that Celtic are compiling the evidence from refereeing performances this season. A UEFA panel could sit down and examine what has been going on in Scotland this season, taking account of the whole picture, and reach an independant view about whether on balance of probabilities there has been a pro-Rangers bias.
It would strengthen the case for foreign referees in all Scottish matches involving either Celtic and Rangers...Clark and Brines are both senior referees in Scotland, and yet it is as plane as a pike staff that they both lacked the courage to apply the rules despite utterly glaring evidence.
69

The Diamond,

Glasgow 20/03/2008 09:09:20
#85

Just like Charlie Richmond did on Tuesday with VOH and Caldwell.

Your first defeat under Richmond, explain that.
70

Bob M,

Paisley 20/03/2008 09:13:46
#27 - Apart from fleecing their fans even more, how do you expect the SPL sides to cope financially with only 15 home games a year? And why scrap the CIS Cup??? Just look at all the Dundee United fans who had one of their best days out in years on Sunday (until the penalties). Why deny teams that opportunity by reducing the number of trophies we play for. If you are not happy with the tournament, lobby your club to withdraw from it (I suspect the only people asking for such would be Old Firm fans).

#35 - I agree the days of 2nd, 3rd and even 4th replays were farcical, but I see no reason to get rid of replays in the Scottish Cup for matches outwith the semis and final where all the fans have to travel to neutral territory. The replay is part of the fabric of the competition. Thistle managed to hold Rangers at Ibrox after 90 minutes and deserve the chance to take them back to Firhill. Yes there is fixture congestion this year but that has been down to a number of abnormal events which wouldn't normally be the case.
71

celtc r atrocious,

sydney 20/03/2008 09:21:32
#85 partick o'shaunnessy
gimme a break
see your psychologist soon
the dhims paranoia knows no bounds
song moment
back to black
72

Another voice,

20/03/2008 09:27:00
Am i the only one who thinks the sfa's decision to accomidate rangers fixture pile up has made a mockery of the scottish cup?

Why should st Johnstone be forced to play the semi final on a mid week night possibly forcing many of their fans to miss the game just to suit rangers. The last round was embarrasing enough having two different played on the same weekend so why should that happen again?

Rangers next league game should be postponed and the replay v thistle match played then. Then one week rangers can play 4 times. Its only football and these are fit guy's so they can cope.

Or is it just the fact that after the sfa saw their second favourite team celtic eliminated they don't want their favourite team going the same way?
73

TonyB,

20/03/2008 09:27:20
85

I think you'll find that the Beeb, or to be more precise, Dougie Donnelly called the penalty incident the pivotal moment of the game and the discussion concluded on points being made by all three of the guests on that very point.
Again, they showed it last night as part of the highlights of the weekend's games. Strange there was no re-run of the various Darcheville injustices though.
So, credit where credit is due.
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STEADFAST,

Vanguard 20/03/2008 09:28:45
Last night was a minor blip in our relenting pursuit of the quadruple.

Sure we didn't play well, but - unlike the dark side from the east end - we are still in the cup. This is the hallmark of a good team; refer to Sunday's Cup Final as further proof.

Sellick supporters are suffering; their team, although it is poor, is being led by an even poorer manager, although we all know that the reason they want rid of of Strachan is because of reasons other than football.
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STEADFAST,

Stevenston 20/03/2008 09:33:48
#85. Bwaaaahaaaaahaaaaaa!!!

Deflect and deny - it's Ra Sellik way.

It's also pleasing to know you watched The Gers lift the Cup on Sunday - what a sight; Hampden Park, filled in a sea of Red, White, Blue and Orange.

I revel in your pain.


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jimgordon,

fife 20/03/2008 09:35:06
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how easy must it have been to own a shipyard or steelworks in the murky west years ago
before unions, risk assesments etc
the owners of any business didnt have to worry about a thing
just open the doors on a monday and let the bigots in ready to scrap about 2 rubbish teams
just a pity scott thomson was robbed of his moment of glory as the arabs coach
still jimmy nichol kept up the good work against the giros
1 from 2 for former raith glory guys isnt bad
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 09:36:51
Just want to be the 100th poster to say nothing about the game...
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 09:37:13
DAMN! Close,but no cigar,,,,;@)
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Shaken,

20/03/2008 09:40:12
#99

Fife is the crappiest back water of parachoial, sharp tounged dull witted natives that make me embarased to be Scottish. WTF is your point caller and what are you yabbering on about the ship yards? You are aware that the millenium turned 8 years ago and 30 years before that the ship business died.

Do you have alzheimers?
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 09:41:46
"McCoist gave them a roasting?" That's what's wrong with the modern game.Time was, if you played badly you got a kick up the bahookie....now it's full scale orgies...
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Stanley,

20/03/2008 09:41:48
#85 Please tell me that in this pile of lies and smoke and mirrors, there isntr a reference to refs windows being smashed? Surely the behaviour of hooped horrors fans that follow soiltic, hasnt magically been reinvented as an "OF" problem? Hugh Dallas and his family were put in a state of fear because a supporter of soiltic, smashed the windows of the family home because Rangers won. That same supporter still goes to darkhead and is a box holder/contributor as I understand it. Same game that soiltic fans nearly blinded Hugh Dallas and left him bloddied, the same soiltic fans who tried to attack Rangers players and the same soiltic whose players tried there best to get sent off to get the game abandoned? The rewriting of the truth may have an impact in uninformed circles, but those of us there no EXACTLY what bheastly behaviour the soiltic fans get up to when trying to get games "influenced". The squeals and whines about Rangers is utterly laughable but not surprising.
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Stanley,

20/03/2008 09:44:29
bloddied of course should be bloodied
84

Stanley,

20/03/2008 09:45:32
Dont flatter yourself Hugh.
"cyber toasting" fpmsl!!!!!!!!!!
85

Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 09:45:59
99 - Jim, have to agree with Shaken. WTF are you going on about. It must have been easy to own your won shipyard? - think about that for a minute, would you? - put your brain in gear before you have a go!

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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 09:46:46
110 - There could be no other phrase that descibes it as succinctly, Stanforth, old boy!
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Cathcart Boy,

London 20/03/2008 10:03:53
#4 Hamilton were in the Premier League when they knocked out Rangers at Ibrox. Berwick Rangers were in the Second Division when Rangers were in the First Division.

Therefore Partick Thistle are not in the same division, as Hamilton were, and are a division below, as Berwick were. Partick are nowadays a really wee team, and this would have been a serious upset.
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Pat the Hat,

Baile atha Cliath 20/03/2008 10:05:42
Poor Blues Brother. He doesn't realise that, as many anthropologists have pointed out, a major indicator of primitivism is calling oneself "the people".

Several tribal names in North America – Arapaho is one example – and any number of African tribal names translate almost exactly to "we are the people". lol!

These peoples are, however, much more culturally advanced than your average bear!
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 10:34:57
115

Fascinating Pat.

Mabey we'll see Sir David Attenborough doing a new series on Rangers fans.

You can just imagine his absorbing tones describing various aspects of 'current' behaviour.
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jimgordon,

20/03/2008 10:38:02
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dg seville,

Northants 20/03/2008 10:41:40
Well Celtic fans where does that leave us?

Are Rangers so superior? Maybe some doubts will start to come into play with Rangers fans as well as a stretched squad given their fixture list. Maybe we can concentrate just on the league just like Rangers did when they won the title from us in the Seville year.

Celtic will now regroup, focus and win the league, some Rangers fans on here are blogging their way to the league title, believe me that's what they want most, and I have no doubt the current Celtic side can deny them.

Keep believing in WGS, two league titles, and twice last 16 champs league so far, it could be 3 league titles, blogging does not win you the title and it's in out own hands.

Keep believing.

Hail Hail
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wuggles,

glasgow 20/03/2008 10:42:20
#13
Make no mistake - the Celtic players are hurting right now, and they will be more determined than ever not to let their SPL title go to a dire, uninspiring and soporific Rangers side.

3 in a row, watch us go.

I have watched you go to three in a row....out of the Scottish, out of the CIS and out of the champions league....3in a row.
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jimgordon,

fife 20/03/2008 10:45:35
#104 #111
the real brainless morons in fife are those who jump in a bus to the west coast wastelands
no doubt we have to accept one of the scum have to win the league but its brilliant when you struggle or get humped in the cup
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Shaken,

20/03/2008 10:57:48
#121

what exactly of consequence has ever come out of Fife apart from your acerbic wit and doubtless good looks? (after all your mother is your sister and she's a babe)

The reason you think it's 'brilliant' is because teh Falkirk Bairns got pumped so much every week the SPL was looking like child abuse case.

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BuddieDumfries,

Dumfries 20/03/2008 11:03:29
Rangers should withdraw from the cup! Its a farce that they want to play the replay when the semi should have been played.
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Barney Rubble,

20/03/2008 11:11:51
#85 - "fanatical and violent element that follow Rangers.
Quite reasonably, there is more to fear than having your windows put in by some of these chaps."

I remember those fans. Is that the ones who put in Hugh Dallas' windows (not to mention those of the Dunfermline chairman, well at least being caught wandering about in his estate) , pelted Shug with coins and drawing blood, posted the home address of a match official on one of their fan sites (not to mention the address of a radio dj and the pub he drank in and the school his weans attended cos he had the temerity to mention the Letterkenny incident), hiring private detectives to follow a ref, constant (and slanderous/libellous if you ask me) allegations of corruption against several officials. That the ones you mean? Sure they were all Rangers fans (!)

Hmmmm.....????? Why do I think of glass houses and stones?
97

Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 11:11:59
85 Patrick "I hope that Celtic are compiling the evidence from refereeing performances this season." Be careful you don't get points deducted. I am amazed that anybody actually believes this nonsense.
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Barney Rubble,

20/03/2008 11:15:28
Broadfoot was indeed lucky to remain on the park. And Sportscene higlighted it as you would expect. The two Maryhill Magyars got up though. Unlike Zander Diamond. Who looked like Ricky Hatton after 10 rounds with Mayweather. didn't want to discuss that though did they?
99

Moonbeams,

20/03/2008 11:19:37
Blues Banger

Explain this heritage pesh you speak of. Go on, show your true inbred colours.

WATP
B&Q
ASDA
ARGOS
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 11:24:02
115 Pat 'as many anthropologists have pointed out, a major indicator of primitivism is calling oneself "the people"."
So what? The original point of the Aryan race nonsense is still nonsense. Billy Connolly was on about wearra people for years and he is not an Aryan sympathizer and certainly not a Rangers man. I am sure when we flick through the old films on the Nuremberg Rallies we will see Hitler and Goebbels proudly waving their banners and shouting "wearrra peeple." DEARIE ME.
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Stanley,

20/03/2008 11:38:53
#113 Copenhagen v Celtic. Your juvenile attempt at patronising aside (poor must do better to keep the school obsession going!), you really are particularly stupid. There was apparently over £70 in coins found near or around where Hugh Dallas was struck.The actual wound on his head was inches from his eye and for you to attempt to try and rewrite the facts speaks volumes. A joke post and a joke attempt to try and deflect and deny. The fact that you are even slevvering on about a stone wall penalty also tells everyone what kind of grasp you have on reality.
So you are saying that coin throwing at a referee is now acceptable at your club? Are you now saying its ok for a phycotic bully to terrorise a referee in his own home with a golf club and smash his windows for having the temerity to give a decision against your team? (a decision which was correct no matter what way you try and spin) are you saying that the behaviour of soiltic's gans that day was acceptable in general?
Deary me you are desperate.
Move on, let it go!
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R Mc,

Elgin 20/03/2008 11:49:48
Rask #13

I do recall plenty of Celtic fans coming on here before a ball was kicked at the start of the season claiming that Celtic would be 20 odd points clear by X-mas and the league won by January !!!! Breathtaking arrogance I do believe

Let the Rangers fans worry about Rangers, Think you had better worry about your own teams frailties. Celtics roller-coaster of a team have been mis-firing and struggling for a while now.

Did Rangers think that the game aginst Partick was a foregone conclusion?? or did Rangers pay Partick a bit to much respect?? Listened to the game and I think they could of played all night and not scored. I got the impression that they were "trying" to hard, no passing to team mates, the only thing that was in the players minds was to score. Sometimes the easiest way is the simplest way.

Bottom line as far as I'm concerned is Rangers have another chance at getting through.(Time will tell).

1 down 3 to go !!!
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 11:55:04
This is a fantastic result for Partick, Ian McCall and his players deserve huge praise for their efforts in getting a shock result.

I didn't see any of the game but the result tells me everything I need to know and only backs up what I was saying yesterday. I think the fixture list is really beginning to take it's toll and there must have been quite a few tired legs in the Rangers team. For a few of them this was the third game in six days and the final on Sunday also went into extra time.

I expected to see more changes last night, I thought we'd see Whittaker at RB, Stevie Smith return at LB and possibly see Webster get a game as well. I also thought there might have been a possibility of seeing Naismith and Boyd as a front pair, rather than seeing Naismith in midfield. Oh well, I'm sure Walter and Ally know better than me, maybe another game was all part of the plan to bring in some more cash.
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Tellitasitis,

Ard Macha 20/03/2008 12:18:20
138 RMc

You're correct. That was breathtaking arrogance and as a Celtic fan it was embarassing - not that I contributed to it!

And you're also correct that we should worry about our respective teams. What I will say is that we have been quite awful for most of the year and despite this the SPL is still in our own hands- - although I do make the Bad Guys favourites.

Exciting finale - what?
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Britishandproud,

vanguardbears.com 20/03/2008 12:19:50
Rangers simply had a bad day at the office last night! The saddest thing is the Glee that the whole of Scottish Football takes from Rangers and thistle drawing..get a grip of yourselves as your hate for Rangers is apparent for all to see!
106

HamiltonAccie67,

20/03/2008 12:24:07
139
Aye, it's great to see the gers get a duff result. Can't deny it! Not like you take pride in Celtic winning is it?
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Britishandproud,

20/03/2008 12:27:00
Are Celtic Scottish? I thought they were Irish so didnt count :-d:-d
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HamiltonAccie67,

20/03/2008 12:27:44
138
Correct on all accounts. The "misfiring team" as quoted by someone earlier can still win the league, although Strachan seems to have the amazing ability to turn a good player into a bad one! That is the big concern
109

HamiltonAccie67,

20/03/2008 12:28:56
141
I'm not Irish, i just grew up close to the stadium! Are Rangers British or do they just say that to keep the whole North of Ireland thing connected to their club?
110

kimba,

20/03/2008 12:29:53
Have a lot of respect or Rangers and McCoist,they are not hell bent on distroying the union.
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 12:31:20
#139...Two wrongs don't make a right, but did you read the 700+ post yesterday in the aftermath of the Celtic V Aberdeen game...Disingenuous at best,downright claptrap at worst.
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Britishandproud,

20/03/2008 12:38:16
the North of Ireland? Where is that?

I know of Northern Ireland, is this what you really mean but you just cannot bear to type? :-d:-d so sad!!

Rangers are British and Scottish.. we are so good we can multi-task and do both you know..:-d
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 12:45:04
137

"Oh well, I'm sure Walter and Ally know better than me,"

- Dont bet on it!


"maybe another game was all part of the plan to bring in some more cash."

- Don't bet against it. You are skint!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 12:45:54
Interesting to note that by this time yesterday there were 390 posts on the Hoops V Dons game...Where are you all today?...surely a "setback" to the 'gers juggernaut wouldn't have the bears suddenly losing their voices?
115

kimba,

20/03/2008 12:48:33
143,think you'll find celtic willfill that role.
116

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 12:49:57
Can I just say on all this British crap, Rangers are an football club based in Scotland playing their football in a Scottish League and therefore a Scottish club.

By dint of a union that took place 300 years ago Scotland is part of Great Britain, that does not make Rangers a British club, there is no British League so how can they be?

Becuase some Rangers suporters consider themselves to be British also does not make the club British.

If Scotland, at some point votes for independance will people who follow Rangers suddenly stop? I don't think so. So does it really matter?

Controversial I know, but this is the kind of sh1t along with all the sectarian / bigotry crap that helps top hold the club back.
117

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 12:51:24
#147

LOL, thanks Shuggy!
118

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 12:55:43
#150 Well said,mate..Can't really get my head around those who sing GSTQ/Amhrán na bhFiann yet vote SNP etc...
If you feel that strongly about it vote with your feet and head south or,as I did,west!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:03:03
DH Dark Rum and Green Ginger works miracles...I was lamenting the non appearance of Billy "Don't be a zero" Urquhart,Boke etc...no doubt applying Savlon to their chaffed nether regions after that w8nk fest yesterday..Nurse! the screens!
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:03:22
Swordsman, thing is mate I don't really want to get into a political debate on a football thread but it just winds me up when people use those kinds of arguments as a wind up agaisnt the other side.

Nationality should be used in a positive way not a negative one, and anything that portrays Scotland, or it's people in a negative manner - especially on a football forum - in a Scottish paper is bang out of order. Well it is nn my opinion anyway.
121

Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 13:03:30
151 - Least some of us still have a sense of humour.

122

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:07:32
#155 True..I would rather discuss the merits of the teams and players but there are those on here who would try to divert the thread from its original subject,especially if they don't like the way things are going ..that said..NO MORE on that subject from me...
Now where were we...
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Tellitasitis,

Ard Macha 20/03/2008 13:10:54
153. Dark Horse.

Don't listen to Swoardsman. He's a mixture of Tyrone and Cavan!!!! Ignore his advice. They're all hexes and curses there.

Now. For your throat - a teaspoon of sugar and vinegar. It works ! Ititial irritation followed by complete cure.

Let me know how you get on.

Cough!!
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:13:01
#159...Have a smidgeon of Donegal in the mix too...Doesn't make me a Banjo picker like you though...lol
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Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:13:54
BTW as the Cavan side of me comes out..I'll have to charge you for the advice ;@)
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 13:16:17
#153 DH....#154 Swords .....
Dead right about the Dark Rum and Green Ginger , an old fisherman who was a friend recommended it to me years ago.....honest...
127

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:17:06
Swordsman, where abouts in Donegal? My grandad was a Raphoe lad - apprently we still have family there.
128

kimba,

20/03/2008 13:17:33
150. But, both Rangers and the majority of thier fans support the union!
129

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:17:58
Adhoc...stick it in the microwave for 20 secs and you are good to go...
Strikes me that here we are Hoops fans helping a 'gers fan get better...AWWW Bless! lol
130

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:19:28
#163 Not too sure as the main family seat was Sion Mills, Tyrone but as that's right on the border there were some interlopers there lol.
131

Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 13:21:34
A setback last night no doubt but a slight one. We wont make the same mistakes twice against Thistle who were excellent. Used to go and see them sometimes when i stayed in Maryhill so iv always had a soft spot for them. Thier goal was top class.
We are really showing the signs of tiredness now and a big improvment from the last 3 games is needed for the last stretch of the season. I feel if we can dig deep and win the next two league games we are just about there.
Anyone else sick of the sight of Burke? I had his card marked when he pushed for a bigger contract without really having done anything. Id have told him to bolt. Charlie Adam had a good left foot but little else,no touch,pace or strength and his weight is a disgrace for a 22year old pro.
132

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:23:18
#166 Weird mate. My grandads other half (my nanna) - never knew her mind - was from Strabane.
133

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:24:29
Jock Tamson's bairns and all that...;@)
134

Tellitasitis,

Ard Macha 20/03/2008 13:25:07
160
Banjo picker? BANJO PICKER???
And going to charge me for the advice.

As an Armagh man I'd have to fight ylou for the fee. Whether you're there or not!
135

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:26:44
jj @167

I agree mate, tiredness is definitley a factor for us now. I said yesterday if we can win all our games to the end of March we will be almost there but I think it's a big ask.

Hibs will be no pushover and with only the league to concentrate on Celtc will be well up for the next OF game at Ibrox.
136

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:28:11
#170

Indeed mate, pity not all Scots see it that way.
137

adhoc,

20/03/2008 13:28:44
#167 JJ
Maybe you can make your fellow Bears aware that they might think that they have crossed the Rubicon , but they have still to cross the Clyde.....Maryhill can be a very inTIMidating place as you may well know...
138

Swordsman,

Dublin 20/03/2008 13:28:51
Only messing LOL...Gotta go guys as I'm off home for Easter...(Great to get a beer on Good Friday!)and me missus has a load of things for me to do...Women,can't live with them...Can't shoot them...Later.
139

Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 13:29:48
154DH Dark Rum and Green Ginger. In my old pub they used to call that a "paraffin lamp" for some reason. Maybe cos you thought you could breathe fire after drinking it?
140

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:34:30
#176

Have a good weekend mate. Enjoy the holidays.
141

Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 13:35:37
#175 Adhoc

LoL!

Used to and see the junior cup finals at Firhill. Not for the faint hearted but great entertainment!
142

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:35:41
DH @ 173

Would you have Naismith up front or part of the midfield in a 451?
143

ninenro,

Still in Europe 20/03/2008 13:37:02
173
Burke must be dropped and either Buffel or even young Fleck must be given a chance and the same could be said for Adam and Gow on the left. Great having a strong enough squad for this. I bet WGS had the same luxury. Oh! Not a mention of the inappropriate songs sung by the PTFC fans last night. What a surprise !!!!
144

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:45:25
ninenro

I've watched a few of the reserve games on Rangers TV and it makes me wonder what Gow has to do to get a game. Sometimes he has been fantastic.

Apart from teh guys you mention I would add Firmin to the mix as well, again he has looked impressive when I have seen him.
145

ninenro,

20/03/2008 13:51:11
182
Gow must look at Adam and shake his head !!!!!!
146

Britishandproud,

20/03/2008 13:52:24
I dont understand why Buffell or gow couldnt have played last night
147

Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 13:53:26
#180 JAFF

If both fit i would like to see Cousin and Darche together, Think of the power and pace that would bring to the side. To be honest im getting a bit fed up of 1 up front in domestic games although it has been getting the results. I will expecting a bit more of an expansive game once two or three quality players are added.
Having said that we played 2 up last night and were p*sh!

148

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 13:55:13
#183 I know what you mean, gotta feel for the guy.

It's funny, I had completely forgotten all about Buffell until you mentioned him. I don't think he is Walters type of player, he tends to go missing too often. Mind you, is that really any worse than playing p1sh?
149

LyonHearts,

le teil 20/03/2008 13:55:39
#80 I believe passionately in supporting your local club! Ok, I used to live in Wimbledon and I couldn't stand their style of football - so I went to Craven Cottage and Stamford Bridge instead! But the fact is either of the Ugly Sisters winning any trophy is hardly going to stick in the memeory, but a final between - let's say Aberdeen and St Johnstone would be much more memorable!

#84 I think Rangers probably deserve the SPL title this season and I wish them well in the UEFA - but why on earth do they get so carried away winning the CIS cup? I think if Dundee Utd had won then it would have added several thousand to their gates and created a lot more interest in the game outside of the OF! Rangers winning doesn't do anything for anybody - ergo I'm cheering Thistle and all the other sides all the way in the cup! I hope you'll agree that I just want to see a more open SPL which is not always dominated by the big boys!
150

Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 13:55:53
#184 British

Although he has not really done it for us in the past i would like to see Buffell given another chance. He is one of the few players in the squad who is a genuine ball player and is certainly one of the most talented. I suppose its not really the time of the season to be trying new things though. Coulndae do much than Adam of late mind you.
151

LyonHearts,

le teil 20/03/2008 13:56:25
Sorry taking so long to reply, but I've had a long and busy day!
152

adhoc,

20/03/2008 14:01:19
Ive been saying for ages that Caldwell , Naylor and Donati playing at the same time is a non starter.
To me Caldwell found his true level when loaned out to Darlington from Newcastle,as for the other two, well, i think the footie fans on here can make up their own minds as to their ability or lack of it.
153

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 14:05:53
jj @185

Cousin and Darcheville is a tempting pairing, I've been trying to think of any game they have played together this season and can't think of any.

I'm not criticising Weir or Cuellar but for me part of the problem is that 451 is forced on us as we have no pace at the back. Becuase of this the team needs to defend deeper meaning we need one or two players in fron of the back line. If we had more pace at the back we could defend further up the park and would then be better placed to play 442. Even the 451 could work better if the midfield didn't have half the length of the park to get into support.
154

Rutland Don,

Middle England 20/03/2008 14:06:39
Great effort by Partick. Shame for their supporters (genuine fans of a local Glasgow club, unlike so many of the glory followers &/or bigots that post on this site)that they conceded so soon after scoring.

The mighty Glasgow Rangers...needed a tragic back pass, ET & penalties to beat a provincial club at the weekend & now nearly crash out of the Scottish Cup to 1st division opposition!!!!

Cue the backlash...!

155

BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 14:14:19
I personally think that nobody could have got more out of this group of players than Walter Smith has. Sure, we all get a little annoyed at his negativity from time to time, but success is the bottom line, and to have won a trophy and still be in a strong position in 3 others at this stage of the season is a terrific achievement, particularly when set against the backdrop of the previous 2 campaigns.

There are bound to be changes in the summer. WS will have a several million to spend, particularly if Rangers win the SPL and are guaranteed CL group football next season. Squad size is good, but 3 or 4 weak links need to be sold off or released, and 3 or 4 higher quality replacements need to be brought in.

As far as departures go, Weir is too old, Papac contributes very little, Hemdani is an SPL luxury, and Buffel ain't made for Scottish football. If we could replace those 4 with better players and keep the rest, I'd be quite happy.
156

Britishandproud,

20/03/2008 14:20:27
#188

he couldnt do much worse than some did last night! The important thing is that Rangers are still in it and that's all that matters.
157

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 14:20:30
DH @193

You're right mate, the tactics for the Euro games have been spot on so far - even if it has meant a few squeeky cheeks moments.

I thik tactically things will stay as they are until the end of the season - or at least until, and if, the league title is wrapped up.

Brian @194

It's funny, WGS has taken a slating for sticking by some of his players, e.g. Donati. Similarly gettin stick for playing others E.g. Riordan. Now we are talking about the same kind of thing with Walter. I guess managers just see things differently from supporters some times and it does make me wonder what they are seeing that I can't.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 14:23:21
BE #195

I think we really need to put a serious effort into keping Davis but it's likely he will use a hefty chunk of the trasnfer budget. When I read tangoman Baine saying yesterday they were already in negotiations for the next transfer window I was hoping it was for Davis.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 14:24:08
197 should read

Similarly getting stick for not playing others E.g. Riordan.
160

Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 14:32:18
#200

Couldn't imagine not being on here mate, It's what keeps me sane ;).
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 14:32:22
#198

Tend to agree based on early indications. Davis looks a decent player, I just wonder what Fulham will want for him, particularly as he's impressing in Scotland? Is he any less a player than Scott Brown, for example?

I hope that Cousin has a change of heart and decides to stay now that the whole matter has died down. It looks like we may just have him back for the second leg in Lisbon, which would be a huge plus as that's bound to be a 4-5-1 night.

I'd personally keep Chris Burke. He's maddeningly inconsistent, but that's the way with wingers. Willie Henderson and Davie Cooper were no different. It's a good option to have, some defences need a genuine tricky pacy wide man to open them. Burke on the right, and Beasley, who's naturally left-sided, give us this alternative, which I think is important.
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HamiltonAccie67,

20/03/2008 14:37:51
Who cares as long as the Accies get promoted!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 14:40:35
#204

I would welcome Hamilton back to the big time.

How good are McCarthy/McArthur?
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20/03/2008 14:50:50
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 14:53:14
DH

Come on. You're allowed to mention any two players in the same sentence.

Ronaldinho and McGeady!

See how easy it is.
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Alan B,

20/03/2008 14:59:03
Surprised at the stick Burke is getting. He did not even start the game yesterday but came on the for the last 20mins. It was his ball in that resulted in the goal. Also it was Burke's cross that Novo should have scored with when he missed the ball completely.

When Burke was frozen out the team for the first half of the season u ofter wondered who was going to create a change for the strikers. Since he has come in Rangers have looked alot better.

We were going out of the UEFA cup until the wee man came on, and it was his cross that lead to the goal.

It was also him that scored against Aberdeen the other week.

Yes he had a bad cup final (was actually better than most in the first half but poor in the 2nd) but started the game out of position. The passing to him in the first half of that game was pathetic.

Problem for Burke is rangers have a habit under smith to resort to a long ball game. Useless for him. He needs ball on the ground in the last 3rd of the pitch. Also he linked wery well with Wittaker which suits him as he is playing with a footballer who is good in possession. The game against hearts (one before last) showed good interchange between them. Broadfoot is never going to be a suitable foil for him.
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Alan B,

20/03/2008 15:00:18
meant to say against the greeks when i said "We were going out of the UEFA cup until the wee man came on, and it was his cross that lead to the goal."
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 15:06:24
Alan.

Have to largely agree with you.

Get Burke in front of Whittaker on the right, and get Beasley in front of Smith on the left, Fergie and Davis running through the centre, lots of supply to big Cousin and Boydie up front, with Webster and Cuellar protecting McGregor.

Now there's a team.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 15:07:45
The Diamond @207

I am Scottish and proud of it even if I don't live there. Just so you're under no illusion - there is nothing, I repeat nothing foreign about me. I was born and raised in Scotland, my parents are both Scottish born and raised, my family on my mothers side are all Scottish going as far back as anyone can go.

As for the BBC it's that age old thing. Anything positive about Scotland automatically becomes British, anything negative is only ever Scottish.

Now p1ss off with your pious indignation. Rangers are a Scottsih football club, playing in Scotland in a Scottish football league and are recognised as such by UEFA and FIFA. It's attitudes like yours that shame Scotland, people are not allowed to hold a different opinion from you and if they do they must be foreign scum? F@ck off!
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Alan B,

20/03/2008 15:07:59
sorry meant to say Burkes goal against Hibs not Aberdeen.
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Hately, Ally and Mo.,

20/03/2008 15:16:09
Just wanted to say well done to Partick Thistle, what a chance they now have at home.
Rangers need another game like a hole in the head, but it's better than not having any at all.

The team has been running on empty for a few games now, but WS, Ally and KMcD will have to get them firing again.

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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 15:18:23
Scottish/British is a boring argument.

My teenage son has spent his whole life in the south of England. I'm 100% Scottish but my son would definitely describe himself as English if pressed.

My current partner was born and spent her childhood in the south of England, with an English dad and a Scottish mum. She then spent her teenage years in the north of Scotland, before moving to England again.

She simply describes herself as British.
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Big Boydie,

20/03/2008 15:19:59
Well done to partick thistle last night. Could have been doing without another replay though. I think tiredness crept in as well as poor play in the final third.

Thought we were going to have a repeat of the FA cup with 3 lower division teams with one premier team (well i say that loosely lol) Thought it was going to be a Barnsley v Lvierpool or Barnsley v chelsa esq night last night thankfully not and the Quad is still on.

I want to know why Gow and Buffel were not giving a run out last night, would have been perfect both have great ball skills and they must be wondering wot the h£ll is going on.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 15:23:49
BE you're right. I had typed out a long response but I can't be bothered with it all.
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 15:24:46
/continued

so I deleted it and put up that last post instead.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 15:26:20
Boydie.

I definitely wouldn't read too much into last night. After winning the CIS, I think that the Scottish Cup has definitely become the lowest priority for Rangers, behind the SPL and UEFA.

Look at Liverpool, as you mentioned. Beaten by Barnsley in the FA Cup, then went to Italy and beat Inter, the runaway Serie A leaders.

The 11 league matches, and the 2 against Sporting are what now matter to RFC.
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Alan B,

20/03/2008 15:27:29
Dark Horse: I agree he cannot shoot. I think his crossing is quite good from the right. (don't play him on the left).

Problem this yr with crossing, is other than Boyd there is no striker are good a heading. Cousin and JCD need the ball on the deck. For that he needs the ball early and on the ground (and many of the time will have to have skinned the full back). Problem is like again united if u do not have the beating of the back and do not get quick ball.

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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 15:28:28
And the great thing is, as long as we take care of the SPL... Celtic are trophyless!
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 15:29:48
Alan. not so sure, mate.

Cousin is pretty good at heading the ball if you draw Stephen McManus's face on it!
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The Diamond,

Glasgow 20/03/2008 15:47:37
#214

Sorry I touched a raw nerve.

For someone who is "Just A Football Fan", your reply is a disgrace.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 15:55:15
#226

I think had Cousin been allowed to leave it would have been a monumental mistake without signing another striker. IMO he is our most effective striker and supposedly he doesnt even want to be here. A top class striker is a must in the summer. Novo,Darchville,Boyd and Naismith arent enough.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 15:56:14
Royalty.

I don't reckon you'll see Cousin start until the game in Lisbon on April 10.

He might come on as a sub during the Dundee Utd away game a few days earlier, but for me, that's the soonest he'll be back.

Looks like he might beat Webster and Smith though. I predict the Partick replay for those 2.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 16:01:05
On a different note, I see that Gretna are calling a news conference.

It looks like Celtic might take 7 or 8 off their youth team, only to be told a few days later that Gretna are going out of business, and all results against them are void.
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Big Boydie,

20/03/2008 16:02:02
210# Could not agree more with you on Burke. Only 2 seasons ago re ran the show in the CL for Rangers and was there best player in the spl. Sure he had a bad cup final and you rightly point out the contribution to important games this season.

Rangers started playing more football when WS decided to bring him back in for the motherwell. The type of football is the reason why Burke is not as consistent. Also the sell of hutton has played apart because there link up play was a breath of fresh air at times i also think we are missing Hutton in that repsect, i aint no Broadfoot fan. Cant wait for Smith to come back and for Whitts to go to RB.

Broadfoot has done ok but i aint a fan of his style of play. Also on Buffel i would have had him back in a second especially for europe. Again the 1 of a very few players with genuine guile, pace and ball control. Again refer back to 2 seasons ago in our Euro campaign. He also played in a poorer rangers team as well. He is no more lightweight than beasley and he has already proved he can score against Celtic.

Gow i feel for as well he must be raging at not getting a sniff, and so am i why was he bought he also has a bag of experience playing lower division football as well as SPL he is as fit as fiddle looking at adam he must be saying WTF is going on here it is a very strange one.

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ninenro,

Europe 20/03/2008 16:09:38
Apparently are large consignment of Viagra has gone missing from Porkheid !!! That`s why they have`nt even managed a semi all season !!! Boom ! Boom !
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ninenro,

20/03/2008 16:11:30
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should be * a large
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 16:14:10
Her's a superb example of lap-top journalism that I came across today, from that esteemed journal , The Daily Record. Following Martin Bain's public statement issued on 30th Nov. 07 insistin that Cousin's exit clause could only be exercised in the Summer :

" It's a period of rebuilding for Walter and he would like to hold on to key players and I think Cousin comes into that category .[His departure] would be a blow because he is an important part of the Rangers' squad."

Two months later , when it was announced that Bain had ben telling porkies, and rather large porkies :

"Yesterday was a good day for Walter Smith at the January sales. To quadruple the money you paid Lens fora player who is no spring chicken at the age of 30 ..is a superb piece of business."

The Daily Record....don'tcha just love it?
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ninenro,

Europe 20/03/2008 16:18:27
234
Who made this great contribution at the Record. I bet it was some Celtic minded muppet cos let`s face it that`s all that work there. Do you have a name ?
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 16:19:19
#227 The Diamond

Maybe my response was a bit strong but I do take great offence at being told to return to the land of my forefathers by someone who makes assumptions about my, or my parents, nationality based on their own prejudices and lack of tolerance of the views of others.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 16:20:31
Sir Minty waives the baton , and the poodles change tact.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 16:21:49
235

I've heard Mark Hately described in many ways, but never in the terms you suggest.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 16:28:16
Patrick

Both viewpoints valid. If it wasn't the same journalist, then I can't see a problem, personally.

Picking up a striker of Cousin's ability for around £1 million IS a good piece of business.

However, picking up £3 million for a player over 30 who cost a third of that is also good business.

It's a win-win, frankly.
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 16:29:46
I'd say that Rangers should stick to the 4-5-1 formation and not get ideas above their station. I might have teased you guys on here about Walter rather unadventurous tactics but it is this that has got results.

Bemused - 442 would see Ferguson and Davis running through the middle according to you. It would also see opposition players running through at Weir and Ceullar. I think Walter has a fair idea exactly how this would pan out and thats why he is reluctant to let it happen.

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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 16:30:52
Bemused, you must have posted before reading #238.

Yip, twas the same writer...hmmm...I wonder where Mark Hately buys his suits ?

Do you think Graham Spiers might know ?
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Just a footbal fan - nothing else,

Tunbridge Wells 20/03/2008 16:32:11
Hugh

That's basically what I was saying earlier. As there is no pace in Weir or Cuellar were are pretty much forced to paly 451.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 16:35:18
Good try Hef.

But if you actually read my post properly, it says WEBSTER and Cuellar, which is slightly more mobile.

Besides, we can adopt a diamond midfield formation, and have Barry sit in front of central defence, so it's all good!
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 16:38:50
If you want to know what Mark Hately will be writing in his next article, just ask Sir Minty.
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 16:41:50
243 - I'd still like to see a Lennon clone back at Celtic. Unlike most of my bretheren, i knew we'd miss his hugh fat a$$, especially in European games.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 16:44:27
Hugh.

Walter is just notoriously cautious in bringing players back from injury.

Webster has now played 3 or 4 full reserve games with no reaction, so he'll be back in contention soon. I note that young Smith was on the bench last night and I'm sure that WS planned to bring him on if Rangers had been a couple of goals ahead.

The best laid schemes...
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 16:47:40
Stevie Smith - personaly, I dont believe he exists.
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 16:48:48
From paintings on cave walls that i seen on the discovery channel, Webster is supposed to have a hairdo like billy the fish from Viz. Is this true?
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 16:51:03
#249 Hugh

You will soon. Potential to be the best young fullback in the country. Oh wait, you have Caddis and Wilson. LoL!
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ninenro,

Europe 20/03/2008 16:52:12
Try and keep it football guys as Pax will soon have the other thread closed.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 16:53:31
#250

Any mention on the lesser spotted Nakamura? Word is when it comes to big games its camouflage is second to none!
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 16:55:08
Looks like Bayern have joined the queue to sign Boruc...a bidding war between them and AC is now on the cards, and after Euro 08, there could be a stampede should Artur aquit himself well.

I shudder to think what the price will rise to...I don't believe that any player is worth these ludicrous amounts of money...it's just the way the market is, and when you have two or three or more giants chasing the same player, zeros just keep getting added.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 16:57:18
#245 Patrick O

I thought earlier these stories were only being wheeled out to deflect from Rangers poor result. Are people interested in him or not?
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 16:57:46
If Artur has a stormer in euro 2008, I would not be remotely surprised if the price tips over £20m.
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 16:59:12
251 - Wilson isn't a young player JJ. Neither is Derek Riordan, Alan Hutton or Kevin thomson. Stevie Smith must be 23ish and cant really be described as a young player for much longer. Your just trying to make him sound better than he is. He's well into his career and done hee-haw! He better hurry up with his potential to be the best young full-back or he might miss out on this accolade!

Caddis is young at 19.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:00:31
#256 Patrick O

Your having a giraffe. Great keeper but you get over 12m.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 17:02:29
Nobody wants Boruc.

Decent keeper , but a total idiot.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:03:43
#257 Hugh

Touche! Ok smart erse,potential to be the best young-ish fullback in the country!

You are correct Caddis is young at 19,he's also gash.
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 17:04:13
Sorry lads,no luck in sending what i suppose for me was a long winded message.
Try to connect the following for yourselves.

SPL
Partick Thistle
Firhill
Gound capacity
Upgrade
Finances
Inverness Caledonian Thistle
Ground sharing
Pittodrie
Rule changes on ground criteria.
Caledonion Stadium capacicity.

The Jags fans to this day believe they have never recovered as a club from the financial implications caused by some of above the above.
18 team league anyone?
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:04:16
#258

"wont" get over 12m.
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:05:22
259 - Bit of an outburst there mate, does your Mrs fancy him?

I'm sure theres lots of clubs interested in a very good goalkeeper. The fact that he has upset Rangers fans, a couple of numpties from Edinburgh and lets face it, nobody else will hardly concern any club with a thick wedge and vacancy betwen the sticks.

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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:05:59
260 - Really, seen him play more than twice?
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:08:10
#264 Hugh

Has he?
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 17:08:42
Did Artur Boruc's former team mate try to buy him for Sunderland or did he prefer to pay a small fortune for Craig Gordon ?
Ive always wondered about that one.....
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:12:35
JJ, from scotland and scottish footbal perspective, Id like nothing better than Smith to be the left sided answer to Hutton, albeit without the suicidal tackles and that stupid thing he does with his socks....I genuinely think hes an very good player.....Im just having a bit of fun with you.

But I havent seen Caddis play more than twice, so I doubt you have either. he got murdered by Ronaldinho, but I can forgive him for that. Hes certainly SPL calibre already. Shame he got injured when he did. He could have had half a season of experience under his belt and we'd really know if hes was p1sh or not.

Hope he goes on loan next season and isnt tempted to wait around for his chance. I get the feeling that Hinkel will make the position his.
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:13:11
265 - my point, hes only played two games!
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:15:45
266 - Gordon was up for sale. He almost had a price tag on his jersey beside the number 1, when he was palying for Hearts. I dont think Celtic were than keen to sell Boruc. But everyone has a price, possibly even my sister.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 17:15:45
266

You can just imagine AC and Bayern saying 'well, we were interested but then we found out Rangers fans don't like him so we'll sign someone else.'
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:18:08
Brian, exactly. He also had the other thing that has been sorely lacking in the Celtic midfield this season. The ability to keep possesion with simple passes. He successful passing ratio was over 90% in most games (mainly due to his unadventurous style) and was in two games 100%. Donati, are reading this?
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 17:18:18
The price is merely a reflection of the interest...if you have AC and Bayern both determined to land him, then that will drive the price as high as each is prepared to go , and they both have very deep pockets.

And after euro 08, they might not be the only ones.
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:20:44
271 - The boke will phone them up and tell Der Kaiser what hes like. Theres no way they will touch Boruc after that!
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:23:09
274 - We all know that this is likely to be Borucs last season and the way you guys feel about him, lets us know exactly how good he is. His crossing has been excellent as well. But I agree with your valuation and any scottish clube getting 8mill plus offer for a player should be happy about it. Its an economic fact!

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Stu_R_20,

20/03/2008 17:23:14
#273
You have to be the most dim witted, biased grape on these threads. You can never look at something objectively: In January you were telling us Hinkel was one of the best right backs in the world, probably having never seen him play, everytime Rangers win it's a conspiracy thought out by the referee, do you ever stop and think how stupid you sound?
Boruc, 20m?!? Are you insane? 8m is reasonable, 10m optimistic, I'm unsure whether to laugh or extend some much needed pity in your direction.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:23:33
#267

Of course im not making assumptions on the boy's ability after 2 games mate,jst a wee noise up! Although he got murdered v Barca i was actually impressed how he stuck to his task and never let his head go down.
Lets just hope he doesnt fall foul of "The Strachan Effect". Namely turning good players such as Brown and turning them into mince.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:26:12
#280
Damn! Used turning twice.
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 17:29:04
Still find it strange that for quite some years now there has been such a lack of good goalkeepers in the English Premiership especially with the top clubs.
When you see some of the transfer fees and wages quoted for some pretty average players it makes me wonder why so little reported interest in an established international goalkeeper
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Hugh Hefner .,

20/03/2008 17:31:16
Happy easter to you all. Hope you get plenty easter eggs.

JJ - dont judge Strangely Brown just yet! Its not over till the fat lady sings. Hes played great at times this season, just not as often as we'd hoped.
10 games to go, boys got a lot of energy while a few are looking jaded!
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:38:03
#283

Im not mate. Brown hasnt suddenly became a poor player. I just hope he coninues his form of the majority of this season. As i said "The Strachan Effect". Other known victims are VoH and Donut........Nah,Donuts ALWAYS been rank!
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 17:38:16
How much is Boruc worth ?

The answer to that is the same as for any other player, to wit, he is worth whatever someone is prepared to offer.

Celtic have made it clear that their valuation is £10m, and there are two clubs reportedly interested both of whom can afford to buy at that end of the market.

So to make the offer attractive to Celtic, they will have to both think in terms of something north of £10m.
And if euro 08 goes well for Artur, there will be other interested parties and Celtic might very well review their evaluation of him.

I didn't say that I think Artur is worth £20m, indeed I think that it's scandalous that these sort of sums change hands for players, but that's the world we live in.

It depends on how much of a priority Artur's signature becomes for the clubs that bid. It's like buying a house in Scotland when the price is "offers over"...if the seller has surveyors turning up at the door every twenty minutes, they know that the price could reach "silly" proportions, and that could happen with Artur.
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jerrymanders,

AB; Keep the Faith. 20/03/2008 17:51:08
#266
#282

AB was given a very lucractive contract not that long ago. He is one of Celtic's highest wage earners. At 27 he is a young 'keeper with his best years still to come. Just to buy out his contract would be about £6M before any fee was discussed. Hence a hefty price tag. If he only wants to go to a team at the very top level then he will have to wait until a vacancy arises and the money is on the table. Sunderland? What a step down and he wouldn't even entertain it.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 17:51:38
#287 Brian

Who cares mate? Both are tiresome to the extreme.
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 17:57:30
#286 Patrick
I was looking through the a list of the the top 50 highest paid players in the world (the list looks authentic).
Kaka is the highest at £7,458,750 per annum and at No 19 believe it or not is Darren Bent at £4,922,775 , so between his transfer fee of circa £12,000.000 and salary,Darren Bent is one helluva expensive player .
I think this is a good example of what you say in your post, what's a player worth.
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Jealousy,jealousy,

20/03/2008 18:02:10
#290 Adhoc

Bent im sure transfered for 18m did he not? Never has one player highlighted how ridiculous the transfer in England is. 5-6m pound player tops.
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 18:08:35
#291 Brian,

Ancelottie was quoted fairly recently saying that among several players world wide that AC Milan are looking at or on their list of possible new signings, Artur Boruc is on their of possibles for the goalkeeping position.
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jerrymanders,

Finders Keepers 20/03/2008 18:14:36
#295

Who cares about what you think? Actually, do you?
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 18:16:22
#293....Good point Brian....when i look again at the list it would appear to be a European listing.
The one that makes me think that it's an authentic list is Michael Owen at No.14 @ £107,100 per week which has been widely repoerted that he is on £ 110,000 per week.
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 18:25:37
#292 JJ
I think that if these sums of money are been thrown about because of the telivision monies then it may just peak in the not too distant future,maybe i'm wrong but i know from my own experience and talking to folk that a number of pubs and clubs have stopped showing football on Sky and or Setanta.
What starts as a trickle can become a flood.
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jerrymanders,

Keepering things in perspective. 20/03/2008 18:30:58
#298

Brian, the difference is that AB has performed at all levels, SPL, CL, EURO CHAMPIONSHIP, WORLD CUP. AM has not. Until he has proved it on a higher stage, and consistently, he will not command that sort of money. He has the makings of a very good 'keeper, but as yet, that is all. He needs to perform at a higher level.
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idee fixe.,

C.I.S. Corruption Is Successful !!! 20/03/2008 18:32:06
If even the most die hard Ragz fanz were swithering to believe that their club only survives near the top on periodic corrupt refereeing decisions and other assistancies,then now we have the clincher.

Walter The Assaulter has not been punished for his unprovoked physical assault on the poor wee SPL 4th official, by the SFA.

Walter The Fourth Official Assaulter has got away with it scot-free.

Rangers f.c. gains yet again,while the rest of Scottish Football pays the penalty.

Utter shameless disgrace.
Isn`t it.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 18:37:01
303

Idee, you're 'avin'a laugh ?????

You've got to be joking....has this just been announced ?
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 18:37:34
#298 Brian,
This leads me to appreciate that Scotland now have two young top class goalkeepers to choose from while England have to rely on ,well,who can i think of.

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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 18:42:27
idee

checked the bbc website couldn't see 'out.

Any details ?
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adhoc,

20/03/2008 18:48:06
Think it's a good idee now to depart and enjoy a few jars of the Guinness....

Happy Easter to one and all......
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idee fixe.,

C.I.S. Corruption Is Successful !!! 20/03/2008 18:54:27
Patrick,

Walter The Fourth Official Assaulter has been given the standard 2 match ban.
This would follow follow an every day event,such as continually stepping out the marked area,or mouthing off to an official for example.

The physical assault that Walter Smith is guilty of has gone unpunished.

WTFOA right enough.

Total embarrassement for Scottish Football.
Isn`t it.
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G...,

Scotland 20/03/2008 19:07:58
So..walter has got the same ban as any other manager who is sent to the stand...

another one to add to the file getting compiled on injustices perpetuated against celtic.

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Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 19:13:55
273 Is that Bayern who Rangers might have to play in the diddy cup? Boruc looks good because he is in the shop window constantly saving the collective Celtic ar....e
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jerrymanders,

20/03/2008 19:15:28
#318

With you refereeing. Obviously no change there then.
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Dubai in Lagos,

20/03/2008 19:17:49
271 Patrick And AC milan being the 14th placed Italian league team that you got as 1st seed in your last 16 escapades. No mention of anybody in the top teams interested in Boruc.
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idee fixe.,

F.A.R.C.E. FansAgainstRuinsCensureEnigmas !!! 20/03/2008 19:34:16
325

What do you mean?
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Not Me,

where are the comments? 20/03/2008 20:01:10
There are 2 comments missing

Where are they?

The top says 334 but I've only got 332???

Help. Good wee song moment....
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G...,

Scotland 20/03/2008 20:05:42
well..if dallas was that far out of position, he probably deserved a good coining, with a side serving of his windows getting tanned...

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G...,

Scotland 20/03/2008 20:09:16
It was Idee saying.. "Fair play to the gers, they won fair and square"
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Father O'Sander,

20/03/2008 20:22:49
336 - I think you're exagerating. "Sans Idee" doesn't know the meaning of fair and square
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 20:31:18
Rangers looked vulnerable last night. It's worth repeating that by rights Broadfoot should have been off and the hitherto unthinkable would have been right on the cards.

Rangers' bacon in my view was saved by Brine's decsion to kepp Broadfoot on the field.

But leaving that aside, Rangers were ropey even with ten men, and the impact that Fergusson's absence has on the team is quite incredible. He had a good start to the season, but the odd times I've seen him since the turn off the year, he hasn't been setting the heather alight, and, like Nakamura, is no stranger to anonymity.

But regardless of his own form, he seems to be the influence that makes the team tick, drives others on to dig out the wins in the close games, because that is the onlt thing that distinguishes Rangers from Celtic...goals scored / conceeded are virtually identical...it's just that there have been times, three in fact, when Celtic have found themselves toiling and had to settle for a draw...I exclude from that the two points dropped at Tynecastle as I think that was a very unfair decision by Kenny Clark whose name was recently connected with another contraversial refereeing decision.

But, I would accept nevertheless that a 4 point margin would at this stage be a fairer reflection of the gap, assuming off-course Rangers win their game in hand.

Without Ferguson, I seriously doubt Rangers' ability to dig these ones out, the games that get bogged down, against the likes of Falkirk when they are giving their all and playing out their skins.

If Bazza is out for the Ibrox game, I think it's almost a certainty that Celtic will win.
With Ferguson, I don't think the converse is true, but I would tempted to settle for a draw...in the end , I wouldn't settle for a draw, but I think I would recognise that I very well might come to regret that decision.
With Bazza, I'd say it's 60/40 Rangers will win at Ibrox.
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G...,

Scotland 20/03/2008 20:40:33
you do have a point ... we need the guy like you needed larsson...

on the other hand.. our record at the moment whe he is off form is far superior than to the start of the season when he was on fire..when we lost 3 of the first 11.

There's not much between either team - it will come down to character
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 20:41:26
Patrick

Amongst your usual nonsense, you've actually hit the nail on the head a couple of times there.

Bazza is actually back for the Hibs game this weekend, so he'll be there for the OF too.
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Patrick O'Shaunnessy,

20/03/2008 20:46:11
341

You hope.
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BEMUSED EXILE,

20/03/2008 20:56:57
Hope which part, Patrick?

BF has decided to postpone any surgery until summer and is ready to play this weekend.
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idee fixe.,

20/03/2008 21:28:20
Thats where forums such as The Scotsmans here come into their own.
Ragz fanz cow dung in their eyes can be washed clean here...

...Basket Ball does NOT need surgery, thats hogwash.
Were that the case, Basket Ball nor Walter The Fourth Official Assaulter could prevent it.
So surgery is not needed,lets be clear about that.

Now then....where Basket Ball IS coming under pressure from WTFOA is that IF he should be playing at all!!
Basket Balls injury needs rest.
Plain and simple.
He is not going to get that.

I mentioned on here 3 weeks ago that Basket Ball was carrying an injury that would probably lead to his substitution that day,it didn`t.

Steroid injections will probably not see Basket Ball go without missing more games.
Its only a question which ones,and how important they happen to be when he cannot continue,the cramped schedule wont help.

You did hear it here first.

Concerning.
Isn`t it.
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idee fixe.,

20/03/2008 21:54:50
bto

Indeed I did.

But Basket Ball is carrying an injury.Thats certain.

You would agree that Basket has been pretty rotten in the past few games and apart from some of that p*sh being run of the mill falling off of form,a fair portion of that p*sh is because of the now reported injury.
WTFOA` hand was forced,partly to explain that p*sh poor form.

But dont confuse it as being make believe.
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JackJ,

25/03/2008 13:40:10
349

Dream on in your little fantasy world.

 

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