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Scotland and Wales in talks over joint bid for Euro 2016



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Published Date: 03 December 2008
SCOTLAND and Wales could launch a joint bid to host the Euro 2016 football championships, it was revealed today.
Soccer chiefs in both countries confirmed "tentative talks" have taken place over a bid.

If it was successful, it would mean a mouth-watering decade of sporting events in Britain.

London will host the 2012 Olympics, Glasgow is the venue for the Commonwealth Games in 2014 and England is planning a bid to host the World Cup four years later.

Scotland's ambitions of staging the competition appeared to have ended in September when Uefa announced it was increasing the number of finalists from 16 to 24.

Scotland lacks the infrastructure to host an expanded tournament on its own.

But the SFA is looking to link up with one of its near neighbours in the hope that a joint bid will be successful.

Talks have also taken place with Northern Ireland, but it is understood that Wales is considered the only viable partner.

The SFA said in a statement: "As we've always said, we would love to host the European Championships in Scotland.

"However, we realise it's a huge undertaking and, as far as 2016 goes, we simply couldn't host it by ourselves.

"We're meeting with the other home nations at the International Football Association board meeting in Belfast in February. I'm sure it's something we'll discuss.

"If there was a feeling that a bid was a possibility, we would then commission a feasibility study."

The move was welcomed by politicians in Scotland today.

Scottish Sports Minister Stewart Maxwell said: "Ultimately it will be for the SFA to decide whether to bid to host Euro 2016.

"Given that Uefa has increased the number of teams that qualify for the finals to 24 from 2016 onwards, it would be a major challenge to meet the stadium requirements.

"But I'm sure every football fan in Europe would relish the possibility of their nation hosting or co-hosting such a prestigious and major event as football's European championship."

Scottish Labour leader Iain Gray welcomed the prospect of a joint bid.
"Having the European football championships hosted in Scotland would be a wonderful opportunity for Scottish youngsters to see football at the highest level and follow on from both the Olympics Games in 2012 and the Commonwealth Games in Glasgow in 2014," said Mr Gray.

"Along with the bid from the English FA to host the World Cup in 2018, it would make an incredible decade of sport in the UK."

Tory sports spokesman in Scotland Jamie McGrigor called the move "a great idea".

"It is spine-tingling thinking about what a potential decade of British sport we could have lined up – London 2012, Glasgow 2014, Euro 2016 and, of course, there is the possibility that the World Cup could be brought to these shores in 2018 as well," he said.

"There is real potential for Scotland to host the 2016 European Championships.

"Like Glasgow 2014, it would provide another boost to Scottish sportsmen and provide long-term sporting inspiration for youngsters.

"I look forward to the SFA making a sound case for submitting a bid and taking this idea forward."

Talks between the SFA and the Football Association of Wales (FAW) over a joint bid have been mooted for more than a year, with the FAW revealing in April 2007 that it hoped to enter into discussions.

But today is the first time the SFA has confirmed such talks have taken place.

An FAW spokesman said "very tentative" discussions have been ongoing for some time.

He added: "We are interested in the idea and it's a question of where it goes from there."

Uefa general secretary David Taylor insisted Scotland would be a "great place" to hold the tournament.

The former SFA chief executive, who was involved in the unsuccessful bid to bring Euro 2008 to Scotland and the Republic of Ireland, told the Herald newspaper: "It would be terrific. But I must be careful here.

"My enthusiasm for and advice to any country could be perceived in the wrong way. Many countries in Uefa are capable of hosting the tournament."

The full article contains 697 words and appears in The Scotsman newspaper.
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  • Last Updated: 03 December 2008 1:51 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: Scotland's football team
 
1

AJ Fife,

03/12/2008 10:39:25
The Rangers FC riots in Manchester will have put paid to any notion of a blue ribband fitba event ever taking place in Bonnie Scotland.
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03/12/2008 10:41:26
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Metal Mickey,

03/12/2008 11:12:09
Last time Scotland made a bid for the Euro championships their bid was binned at the first round of voting. The proposal by the football colossus that is Bosnia-Herzegovina garnered more votes.
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Pride Eh The Captal!,

03/12/2008 11:27:32
Never say never, but theres far greater countrys that are equipped with stadiums suitable for hosting the competition.

What is the stadium requirements to host a Euro championship anyway?
5

Royalist,

03/12/2008 11:40:37
Has Jack McConnell raised his ugly wee head again?

Remember the 6 centres of excellence he promised for young players around the country.

Still waiting.

6

Maroon tinted glasses,

03/12/2008 11:51:35
#1 i agree

Great just what we need more money from the SFA being thrown into a pipedream, look at the three countries involved they are seperated by a sea and a whole other country.

what a joke, i feel that before they throw more money into schmoozing bigwigs figures should be made transparent and then let the public decide if its a good idea!
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Jambo83,

03/12/2008 11:52:27
Some of the nations who have held major tournaments in recent years have used stadiums with capacity's of around 24-28k, it is extremely possible that at least 2 of Hearts, Hibs & Aberdeen will have stadiums of almost this size by the time 2016 comes around
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Jambo83,

03/12/2008 11:54:47
7 - I'm sure the distance between Scotland & Wales is comparable to the distances between the various stadiums used for other major events. I wonder what the biggest distance is between stadiums in South Africa, Germany or Japan?
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Who?,

03/12/2008 12:15:09
Neighbouring countries co-bid for games not those seperated by sea or a 3rd country.

uefa have said that there can only be a maximum of 2 grounds per city so we have: 2x edinburgh, 2x glasgow, 1x aberdeen, 1x dundee.

NI will only have 1 in belfast and wales would be lucky to get 2 in cardiff (which is awful) and 1 in swansea.

So for 3 countries to host the tournament we could only count on 10 stadia and as the biggest and best is the Millenium stadium the opening game, both semi finals and the final wouldn't even be in scotland.

It all seems a bit daft to me!
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Deadpan,

London 03/12/2008 12:24:05
God, what a depressing thread.
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Newman!,

03/12/2008 12:24:08
#10 er care to remind us where the 2002 World Cup was held? South Korea and Japan, I believe there is a lot of water between the 2....
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Mr. Lachie Todd,

Edinburgh 03/12/2008 12:24:16
.....and why not?

The three Celtic Nations now have some of the best AND safest stadia in the world along with excellent transport links. Air and ferry links between Scotland/Wales and Ireland are now a dawdle.

The Celtic Nations are currently spending billions on transforming their infrastructure and, by 2016, they will have some of the best road and rail networks in Europe.

IF, the bid was successful, Northern Ireland, the Republic, Scotland, AND England would ALL benefit.

The forthcoming 2010 World Cup in South Africa will see competing nations travelling many hundreds of miles between 10 separate venues scattered throughout the Republic. Air travel will be the only option, not only because of the distances covered, but also for internal (and external) security reasons, as South Africa has one of the highest crime rates in the world.
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Bzzzz,

Edinburgh 03/12/2008 12:39:59
Great idea, go for it!

Forget all the wee brained "we cannae" unionists, get on with it!
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Pride Eh The Captal!,

03/12/2008 12:40:52
8. Cheers for sheading some light on the matter.

By 2016 and Hearts are still afloat lol the new Main stand should be built, Hobos are getting a new stand. Cant see the sheep building a new stadium of 24,-28,000 stidium though, and Dundee will never have that either unless the 2 Dundee clubs join and build a shared stadium specially at how close there grounds are to each other.

I don't think it'll go through and would rather the money was put into the scottish game instead as a seriousreshaping of the SPL is needed imo.
15

Vincent-W,

03/12/2008 13:00:23
Great idea - Murrayfield stadium should be included too.

14 Bzzzz - this isn't a Nat v Union issue - don't make it one. Anything that promotes Scotland or Wales is good for all Unionist or Nationalist.
16

Rakatel,

France 03/12/2008 13:04:45
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17

Montford's Jaicket,

Hanging around 03/12/2008 13:24:03
24 nations would mean 6 groups of 4 teams which would mean 2 stadia per group so we would need 6 pairs. 2 grounds each in Glasgow and Edinburgh, a pair in Aberdeen/Dundee are 3 so we are still short of half the stadia. Wales, as said earlier, could possibly offer 2 in Cardiff or Cardiff/Swansea so we are short by 4 grounds. Ideally 2 of those would have to be in Wales but unless we can persuade the UK Government to move Liverpool and/or Manchester then a Scotland and Wales bid would be pretty well certain to fail.

One way to make the bid viable would be to increase the capacity at some of the smaller grounds - Falkirk/Motherwell as a pair, Perth/Dundee and Inverness/Aberdeen would mean adapting 4 more grounds. That might be feasible - but still a big ask with the economy reeling.
From a different angle, is it really sensible for 52 nations to reduce to 24 (46% of entrants would qualify for the finals)? Also, how would the qualifying competition be set up? More but smaller groups or could we end up with 2 out of 6 in each group going through with the 3rd placed teams in play-offs? I personally believe that 24 is too many. The Euros aren't the World Cup. To try to mimic them to that extent is going to dilute the quality of the games in the finals.

If Scotland are going to partner another nation to host the finals, why not Norway?
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03/12/2008 14:07:11
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03/12/2008 14:19:13
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

03/12/2008 14:37:09
Really guys...Would you like a bunch of shaven headed,homemade tattoo sporting,Union Jack clad morons rampaging through your cities.THEN the England fans arrive...No thanks!
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03/12/2008 14:59:48
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

03/12/2008 15:07:24
BTO..Get yer winter woolies on...Its FFFFFFFreezing here!
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03/12/2008 15:11:29
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

03/12/2008 15:13:26
Positively balmy here in Dublin by comparison...got a wee bit of sunstroke this morning asd I went for the paper...
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Westfield Bairns,

falkirk 03/12/2008 15:13:34
I think this is a great idea and Scots should support this. This would, as mentioned earlier be a great boost to the Scottish economy.

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I have to say i never thought of a joint bid with Norway or another Scandinavian Country however it does have it's merits and is entirely feasible
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

03/12/2008 15:17:08
26...Might be a goer with everyone plumping for ties played here as the beer is so much cheaper..
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03/12/2008 15:19:19
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03/12/2008 15:21:01
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

03/12/2008 15:23:02
BTO I see the Hoops are looking at a big Norwegian LB called HANTSVIET...Or Bumpsadaisy as I'll call him from now on....
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03/12/2008 15:26:37
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

03/12/2008 15:30:53
Great snap of Sid Murray getting a doctorate (he likes a wee bit of "Doctoring"..Accounts,profits,dividends...)He looked like an extra from a Harry Potter film...
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03/12/2008 15:31:58
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SWORDS MAN,THE GREY BLADE,,

DUBLIN 03/12/2008 15:44:21
BTO..A couple of years ago The Donegal Asthma Association made a radio appeal for funds.No harm in that.

Unfortunately they backed the appeal with the Hollies sing "The air that I breathe..." No kidding!
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03/12/2008 15:49:14
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AbandonAllHope,

03/12/2008 17:05:25
Putting aside the Irish Rangers/Celtic nonsense (please make a decision plastic proddies and paddy's, for the sake of the proud Scots, the ferrys cheap to Larne, go on, start a new life, you know we want you to !) it would be a magnficent occasion for the two countries.
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AbandonAllHope,

03/12/2008 17:11:36
The final would be held at Easter Road
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AbandonAllHope,

03/12/2008 17:12:36
Daysaver ticket for me
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03/12/2008 17:14:36
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Shug,

03/12/2008 18:35:36
Alas I fear it our only way to qualify for a major tournament these days.
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Jock Tamson,

Scotland, Caledonia, Alba 03/12/2008 18:45:35
Let me see now. Hmmmm?

By 2016 Scotland requires a modern inter-city transport system and a decentralised football infrastructure, which may or may not give birth to the probability of Scotland being only a couple of stadia short of the full shilling - so to speak.

Reality check required.

Westminster and the SFA want neither.

Dream on, dummies.
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Rouleur,

on ma bike 03/12/2008 19:21:43
jeez.. .. ..what a pipe dream. Scotland has four Euro Championship quality stadiums at present. If the minumum requirement is 8 on the present format then then Hibs or Hearts, Aberdeen, Dundee/Utd and Kilmarnock would all need their grounds expanded to a minumum of 30k.

The cost of stadium redevelopment is not an inexpensive business. If you take a guestimate cost of £2m per 1,000 extra seats we are looking at approximately £100m to get our existing stadia up to scratch.

This seems an exceedingly high price to pay for hosting the tournie. The legacy of these 30k+ seater stadiums outside the Old Firms could prove to be costly as I doubt any of the revamped stadiums outside of Glasgow would fill their grounds. Look at Portugal as an example of clubs who's beautiful grounds are far bigger than required. . .white elephants

I think it is a great idea however we missed the boat. The tournie in 1992 with 8 teams would have been the best hope we would have had.

Sadly we are too wee to cope alone and the other proposed Celtic partners are an absolute joke.. .. only the wonderful Millenium meets the criteria and as a previous poster mentioned would get the showpiece final as the biggest and best stadium.. ..unless Hampden is boosted by 25k seats.. ..oh dear more cost which would be paid for by who?

I live in London and object to paying extra on my council tax for the fecking olympics. How would Scottish residents paying extra for the tournie? In the current financial situation I doubt there will be much backing for this fantasy.

 

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