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Howe of Fife furious with SRU



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Published Date: 18 January 2008
HOWE of Fife yesterday launched a scathing attack on the SRU after digesting the fact that their youth team had been disqualified from the John Lewis Scottish Youth Cup.
The Cupar-based club are holders of the trophy, after the team secured both the youth and national schools cup last season with virtually the same team. Their quarter-final tie with Hawick Wanderers has twice been postponed and, after the club refuse
d to travel to Hawick on Wednesday night, the SRU, with their championship committee, handed the tie to the Hawick club.

Howe of Fife yesterday issued a statement that read: "Howe of Fife RFC deplores the unilateral decision of the Championship Committee of the SRU yesterday to disqualify the Howe team from the Youth Cup. As defending champions every effort was being made to fulfil the quarter-final tie… but logistically (Wednesday night's tie] was impossible to fulfil given school and work commitments of players and coaches.

"The Howe proposed playing at Murrayfield as an alternative, with which the Wanderers appeared sympathetic, but regrettably the SRU could not make any of its back pitches available.

The tie could have been played at Hawick this Saturday coming, weather allowing, but for reasons best known only to certain officials, the Howe were told, on less than 24 hours notice, that it must play at Hawick on the evening of the 16th or face disqualification. The spin circulated by the SRU to justify it decision that the Howe refused three alternative dates is wrong, reflects badly on those officials concerned and does Howe of Fife a grave injustice."

The SRU yesterday stood by its decision, confirming that Murrayfield's back pitches were waterlogged and that they felt they had to set a deadline to avoid leaving one finalist – Musselburgh reached the final on Wednesday night – with half the preparation time of the other, a problem that arose with Howe of Fife last season.

An SRU spokesman said: "Nobody takes any pleasure from having to make a decision like this. It was necessary because there is a fixed final date to the competition, on 26 January."



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  • Last Updated: 17 January 2008 9:52 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: SRU
 
1

YadaToo,

18/01/2008 09:12:45
There were teams training on the back pitches on Wednesday night.
2

Forwardthinker,

edinburgh 18/01/2008 09:33:01
Meggetland, Mussellburgh, Pennypit,Myreside, to name a few other pitches which may have been suitable. If we want to grow the game surely priority must be given to young persons rugby. Scottish rugby also needs to ensure Fife becomes a force in rugby to feed Stirling County, Dundee and maybe Edinburgh clubs or even better a Fife team.No wonder kids give up.....someone needs to repair this pdq
3

Big Smoke,

18/01/2008 10:44:42
Thats the SRUs new plans for increasing playing numbers over the next 5 years got off to a bad start, I bet half those kids from Howe of Fife will give up by the end of the season, if not before!
4

Shameless,

Duffus Park 18/01/2008 10:57:06
Another SRU shocker! No wonder the game is in dire trouble, run by such ignorant pillocks......
5

SIR RASTUS DICKLONG-DONGLER,

Hanging out - at considerable length - in Duffus P 18/01/2008 11:09:51
This is truly an absolute disgrace. You couldn't invent this if it wasn't true! What a bunch of morons up there in Roseburn, Embrae.

No wonder (Scottish) rugby is in decline.

Let's have some answers.
6

Brigadier Mungo "Spliffer" McSporran Bufton-Tufton,

In a dreadful Mess, at the bar.... 18/01/2008 11:12:02
Agreed, #4 & #5. They've simply got to go.

Now, if I could just have a quick large pink 'un, sweetie..... Ahhhh! Wonderful.
7

F.D.L.,

Teri gitter blud 18/01/2008 11:24:31
Its a shame that politics has ruined the chances for state school lads to play on a Wed night. On the same night and in the same competition Gala Wanderers travelled all the way to Musselburgh to play albeit they lost. The question here is why could Howe of Fife not field a team and travel to Hawick. Were all the players made available to Howe from their school catchment area ?
8

COMMANDER DAN DARE, SPEX & THE MEKON,

AWAY - UP IN OOTER SPACE, NEAR HAWICK 18/01/2008 11:46:23
Wake up, smell the coffee & look at a map, you complete terrible Teri numpty, #7.

Gala - Musselburgh 45 minutes.

Cupar - Hawick 180 minutes.

During the school week.

At 24 hours notice.

SRU wins again...... or, perhaps not!
9

YadaToo,

18/01/2008 11:46:48
#7 Have you compared the differences in journey lengths and pain (Forth Road Bridge and Edinburgh Bypass) (Gala -> Musselburgh vs Howe -> Hawick)? That's a huge trip to expect kids to make on a Wednesday night.
10

Soapy Soutar,

East Lothian 18/01/2008 12:13:24
Let me get this right. The SRU say it was appropriate for school boys (potentially a week ahead of Higher prelims) to take the afternoon off school and leave Cupar at say 2.00 and get to Hawick by around 6.00 assuming they will eat somewhere. AA website says journey is 2hours 25 by car outside rush hour so 3 hours 15 for a coach would be my optimistic estimate. Warm up/loosen off for say an hour and kick off at 7.00. Play till 8.30. Shower/ snack and back on the bus at 9.30 so home in Cupar by around 12.45 and home to their houses in time to be in bed before 1.15 AM.(if they live intown)

Oh yes and its school again the next day. I wouldn't have sanctioned my sons doing that trip.

Time for an apology and a smart U Turn SRU
11

Andrew, Peebles,

18/01/2008 13:00:29
I wonder if they would have been so quick to disqualify Hawick if the shoe was on the other foot. Doubt it somehow.
12

J.A.,

18/01/2008 13:53:57
I am not unsympathetic to Howe’s plight and I do think that more could have been done by the SRU to accommodate the game on a pick in the Edinburgh Area. However, this was a home tie for Hawick Wands as they had been the first qualifier from their district whereas Howe were second in theirs.
Had this been a school game with a similar amount of travelling I am sure it would have gone ahead without a hitch, most likely probably in the afternoon which would have meant even more time off school. All this talk of exams forthcoming exams and time off school would not have been an issue.
It is very disappointing that Howe have not been able to fulfil their fixture but I do feel that had it been last year’s Howe team they would have found a way.
13

Tam Turpentine the Monacled & Minted Tumshie,

Muddyfield Bar Chez Noire - King Cod McKie Lounge. 18/01/2008 14:43:28
Never mind my ol' farming friends from Fife.

The SRU will be holding a reception at Muddyfield Bar Chez Noire for all the politicians, shiny trouser buttocked bufties, blazer badges, hand puppets and all other "special ones" in a few weeks time.

That's what matters most to King Cod McKie and his hand puppet ensamble.

All this King Cod McKie "we want to have such and such percentage rise in kiddies playing rugger at schools" and the like. All cheap words dear fellows! All words!
14

Deepark,

Dispar 18/01/2008 14:51:27
#12 - Hawick agreed Wednesday night was unworkable! Hawick were willing to play this Saturday despite the congestion in the subsequent fixtures. The reality of this fiasco is that the officials bowed to third party pressure and took the easy option. Over and out!
15

THE PALE,

GALASHIELS 18/01/2008 16:17:00
Where were your, Bell Baxter when u needed them surely, a half day or even a full day off would have eased the pressure on the kids as you call them, for those of them in employment an employee with a rugby background could have been smypathetic. I can guarantee you if that had been any border team going to Fife the game would have went ahead. One other comment I would like to make what a stupid time of year to run a national youth tourney
16

Keeping it real,

Scotland 18/01/2008 16:19:38
Stirling County will be that 3rd party #14. Also interesting that a young player by the name of edwards plays in that team or will all this just be co-incedence hmmm!
17

King Nebkheperura Tutankhamun,

Looking for Queen Nefertiti around the Pyramids Ca 18/01/2008 16:19:53
Scandalous nonsense from the SRU mindless morons. Again.

Let's look a little deeper. Who agreed to the fixture schedule which provided so little leeway in event of match cancellation / postponement, possibly due to the not unusual incidence of bad winter weather at this time of year here in Scotland...???

YES - you've got it! NOW, GUESS HIS SALARY!!!!!
18

Stowaway,

Doon the A7 18/01/2008 20:13:27
I have every sympathy with Howe. The situation is farcical. The SRU are doing nothing to encourage young players with this kind of scheduling. A midweek fixture that involves any travelling is farcical when players and coaches are having rush from school or work just to try and get some time to warm up (to eat!) before a game. Why the rush to get this competition over so early in the year?.
The Borders u-18 league has not even finished. Hawick were deemed league winners only on the flip of a coin and end up with a by to the semifinal.
Why don't the SRU just come clean and admit that they have no real interest in Youth Club Rugby - they are only interested in their schools competition (John Lewis take note!)
19

Deepark,

Screenbound 18/01/2008 22:07:26
I bet our brand new sponsors of the Youth League Cup are loving this - NOT! Wonder whether that ever hit the radar with the officials concerned? I suspect John Lewis came on board after the amazing publicity last year the Howe generated expectng more - how things change!
20

Flanker7,

Deepest Fife 18/01/2008 22:26:49
Deja vu, similar furore last year at certain SRU "officials" decisions with lots of promises made in light of the flak those attracted. Here we are 12 months down the line and nothing has changed they are still ludicrously out of touch. No doubt the same will happen again a few days comment in the papers & on line but the same discredited "leaders" of the community game will still be in cosied salaried positions. Any chance this is a bit of pay back by certain individuals for last years rumpus?
21

Brigadier Mungo "Spliffer" McSporran Bufton-Tufton,

In another HUGE Mess - at the bar 19/01/2008 08:55:30
BAH!!!!

Now look here - these important chaps have an important "Strategic Development Plan" to pursue, so how can they possibly be bothered with incidental sideshows such as youth competitions and sponsors' interests?

BAH!!!! Right now, I have the no less important matter of my first large pink 'un of the day on my mind.....

These days, it pays to keep one's focus on the important things in life. Fat salary, pomposity, ever-widening waist, soundbites and spin are all part of the extremely rich (for some) pageant.

ARGHHHH...... BAH!!!!
22

Dave58,

Aberdeen 20/01/2008 13:59:00
As an ex-resident of the central belt now earning his corn in the frozen north, this is yet another example of Scottish sport being run by the central belt for the central belt.
We plan sporting tournaments around the short Glasgow - Edinburgh distances with no consideration given to those outwith this apparent "comfort zone".
Why was the Youth Cup not scheduled for Saturday matches, after all club and not School teams are involved?
The pressure is on our schools not to grant absence outwith holidays so criticism of Bell-Baxter is unwarranted. I'm not too sure how many companies fit the "employer with a rugby background could have been smypathetic" bill now-a-days so we can kick that one into touch.
This really was a shocking decision which compounded on the decision made last year regarding the lads playing two finals in less than one week. What a way to treat the future life-blood of our sport.
Howe will no doubt be feeling more than a bit paranoid by now, and I don't blame them. Excuse my cynical observation but the feeling we cant have too many successes outwith the "establishment" leaves a bitter after taste.

ps Yes, I know Cupar is only 27 miles from Edinburgh and roughly 65 miles from Hawick but flying crows are no indicators of travel time.
23

fife runner,

23/01/2008 21:13:33
some of the players work and are at colleges. some even go to other schools. So it was not just down to one school at 24 hours notice.

 

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