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Stuart Bathgate: Riordan must prove to Hughes and Hibernian that he still cares

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Published Date: 05 August 2009
DEREK Riordan knows what John Hughes used to be like, having been a young team-mate of the centre-half during his early days at Hibernian.
He knows what Hughes is like these days, having been disciplined by his now manager after an incident in Edinburgh last weekend. And it is to be hoped – for the sake of his team and also for his own career – that Riordan also knows what Hughes will b
e like if there are any further breaches of the club's disciplinary code.

After Hibs' recent friendly with Dunfermline, Riordan was asked if he had noticed any changes in Hughes over the years. The answer was at once startling and reassuring.

"He doesn't chase you about in the buff now," the striker said. Then, perhaps deciding that a few words of explanation were in order, he added: "He used to turn the lights off and chase the young ones about, but he's really professional now and brilliant to work under."

Riordan might not regard his manager as quite so brilliant after the meeting with Hughes and Hibs chief executive Scott Lindsay which ended with the player being punished for an incident in which he was refused entry to a city-centre nightclub. Riordan is understood to have disputed certain details of newspaper reports about the incident, but Hibs were convinced that the accepted facts of the matter warranted disciplinary action.

Significantly, although the nature of the action was kept private, the fact that Riordan had been disciplined was announced on the club's website. In previous cases, such punishment remained undeclared.

It is not the first time Riordan has been in trouble with either the authorities or his employers, and few of those who have followed his chequered career would predict an unblemished track record from now until his retirement. Far from appearing contrite after previous run-ins, he has consistently given the impression of a man who believes he is being picked on. Authority, in his perception, is there to be resented or resisted rather than respected.

Having been made aware that Hughes will not turn a blind eye to his nocturnal meanderings, Riordan at least has an opportunity to reassess his behaviour, just before the SPL season begins. If he decides that self-control is in order, he could play a big part in a successful campaign for Hibs. If he opts for self-indulgence, he may find, at the age of 26, that his career as a full-time, top-level professional is effectively at an end.

Looking at the Hibs squad as it has been reshaped by Hughes since he moved from Falkirk, it is not immediately apparent where a player of Riordan's unpredictable gifts fits into it. By signing players such as Patrick Cregg and Kevin McBride from his former club, Hughes has shown the value he places on hard work, adherence to a game plan and self-discipline. Given his all-too-apparent lack of interest in tracking back, Riordan does not appear to be integral to such a set-up.

But a solid, well-disciplined team can only get so far on its own. No matter the virtues of players such as Cregg, McBride and their ilk, there is the risk that they may achieve no more than a solid, well-disciplined sixth-place finish.

Throw the unpredictable Riordan into the equation, on the other hand, and Hibs will at least have the chance of doing a bit better. He is the one player on the books at Easter Road who can conjure up something wholly unexpected and thus make a material difference to a match in the blink of an eye.

Given that ability, which even Riordan's most virulent detractors have to admit he possesses, it has been strange and also in a sense frustrating to hear so many people state as fact over the last few weeks that Hibs have lost their best two players since the end of last season. Yes, Rob Jones and Steven Fletcher may have been their two most influential players, and, in that sense, possibly their most important too. But better than Riordan?

In terms of consistency, no doubt. But when it comes to what any of the three could potentially do during a game, Riordan is the best player by some way.

'Potential', of course, is the key word in Riordan's case, especially when prefixed by the adjective 'unfulfilled'. And it is his inability to apply his talent, his tendency to drift out of games, that has led to his being undervalued compared to less gifted colleagues.

Perhaps he has so much money from his time at Celtic that he no longer cares. Perhaps now that Hughes tends to keep his clothes on, Riordan no longer fears his manager.

But for the sake of the game we have to hope that he does care. And that, having been disciplined once by Hughes, he is keen to avoid any imminent repetition of the experience.





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1

Cammy,

Edinburgh 05/08/2009 00:45:28
26 years of age and still a child, you can only shake your head at him.

There are too many examples of these types of "boys" at Scottish clubs, which makes you wonder why that is. Are their parents to blame?, or were they not breast fed. The only thing we do know for sure is that they're making complete t@t's of themselves.

I suppose we should be pleased he didn't threaten anyone with a gun.
2

Gordon Smiths 364,

Tunisia, Gabes 05/08/2009 01:00:40
I would hope Deeks will have learned his lessons well before now! FFS he is 26 now! most 26 year olds have married and now have a family, Deeks, get yourself a proper girlfriend, get rid of the Neds that hang around you, you should be able to handle the beers by now without being a yob, people will wind you up, doormen will bounce you for being too aggressive and it will snow in February! Stuff like that happen, deal with it before your undoubted talent is wasted because you still want to be one of the lads (Neds)!

Cue the phannies to begin the onslaught, even though it has been trawled through the mud for a couple of days now!
3

Gordon Smiths 364,

Tunisia, Gabes 05/08/2009 01:12:51
#1 Cammy

you beat me to it, I think its down to the company he keeps, you would think at least one of his mates (Neds) would have seen the harm it has caused his career so far and had a word in his ear to steer him clear from trouble! If they are Hibbie mates they must know the potential we could get from him for the club if kept on the straight and narrow! FFS he is 26 years old, he can think for himself you would think, no?
4

Neutral Observer,

05/08/2009 01:27:11
His overall performance against Preston on Saturday was excellent and he looks much fitter than at this time last year. I still predict 20+ goals and a significant number of points gained as a result.

Now, get in a commanding centre half and a decent creative midfield player and we have a team!
5

Farmer Tom,

TRARALGON 05/08/2009 02:17:58
We were all such perfect 26 year olds ourselves weren't we?
Hibs signed George Best and Willie Hamilton knowing they had "issues"... likewise Riordan just a few months ago.
HFC should be helping the laddie deal with his "issues" and not executing him in public.
6

Cammy,

Edinburgh 05/08/2009 03:11:15
#5 "Helping the "laddie" deal with issues". It's people like you that's part of the problem.

If someone had stepped in when these people had "issues", and made them sort out their lives, things might have turned out better for them. Making excuses for them makes you no friend at all.

Left to his own devices this boy will end up propping up a bar telling anyone who'll listen how he used to be someone. His "mates" are simply leeches who use him to supplement their empty lives (and heads).

There is nothing as depressing as wasted talent, and this boy has it in spades. Lets hope that some common sense reaches him soon.
7

Farmer Tom,

TRARALGON 05/08/2009 06:34:31
What is your point #6?
Your first 2 sentences shoot down what I said.
Your next 2 support what I said.

Do people on this forum always have to shoot others down before making their own point?
8

Farmer Tom,

TRARALGON 05/08/2009 06:35:52
Make that paragraphs, not sentences.
Got that in before the pedants saw it I hope.
9

Tynie,

Robbo's Bar 05/08/2009 07:07:59
Riordan has all the symptoms of the football alcoholic George Best - drinking till the last bar in town closes - getting involved with the police - giving it the big I am - not learning lessons - being sorry then doing it all over again - lacking genuine friends - falling out with team mates - not working hard enough on the pitch - being constantly unfit - getting involved with referees, opposition players and fans.

Strachan was one of his biggest admirers but constantly alluded to lifestyle and training issues preventing Riordan from a first team appearance.

It's tragic when a talented footballer gets in the grip of an addiction. It's nowt to do with growing up - an alcoholic player cannot grow up - he can only give up............booze or football
10

Skorchio,

Scotland 05/08/2009 07:37:09
"He is the one player on the books at Easter Road who can conjure up something wholly unexpected and thus make a material difference to a match in the blink of an eye."?

Except for Zemmama.
11

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 07:45:40
#9 You obviously know more about Riordans lifestyle than I do.

To compare him with George Best with a list of behaviours, most of which didn't even apply to GB far less DR is a bit silly. And less than honest.

Do you know that DR is an alcoholic? Theres a difference between drinking too much on a Saturday night and being an alcoholic.

Obviously you would not make such a statement unless you knew it to be true. Tell the rest of us how you know.
12

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 07:49:15
#11+

Or is this part of your "Banter" like your' fellow Hearts supporter who came on here celebrating because he thought Benji had Hepatitis.
13

the beast,

London 05/08/2009 07:59:14
Sorry couldn't resist,

"He doesn't chase you about in the buff now," the striker said. Then, perhaps deciding that a few words of explanation were in order, he added: "He used to turn the lights off and chase the young ones about, but he's really professional now and brilliant to work under."

Glad we got that sorted out then!!
14

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 08:01:36
#13 The explanation was worse than the statement.
15

the beast,

Loch Ore 05/08/2009 08:08:14
Pike,

What was the punishment?
16

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 08:17:29
We don't know. He has been disciplined but Hibs didn't give any more details.
17

petegeneva,

geneva 05/08/2009 08:30:01
#16 don't worry, #9'll know. He knows all about Deek's problems and the company he keeps, so he's bound to know what the punishment was.

All I care about is, is he fitter than he was this time last year? Will he do a job for us this season? How will he fit into JH's plans and will JH make him a better player?
If he screwed the nut he could get back into the Scotland squad, even he can surely see that...
18

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 08:41:56
#17 I agree. A Scotland place could be his. He's a more dangerous striker than Fletcher but Fletch will be picked first because of DRs lifestyle.

I think #9s done a runner.
19

Al Pacino,

05/08/2009 08:55:26
Aren't we missing the bigger picture? John Hughes used to chase kids about naked in the dark, claimed Riordan. He doesn't listen to Gary Glitter does he? I certainly wouldn't want to be in his gang.
20

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 09:34:39
#19 Is that the bigger picture?

Am I allowed to say t*sser on these threads?

Obviously not.
21

petegeneva,

geneva 05/08/2009 09:39:16
#19 let's get it out into the open! That's what I say!!
Fine rugger-type japes might be exactly what Deek needs to help him grow up.

And frankly even if JH was "a gay" if he can bring some glory to the Hibees I wouldn't mind.
I draw the line at having a tried and committed sex-pest as coach a la Gorgie though.


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Neutral Observer,

05/08/2009 10:47:30
Lets get a sense of perspective here. John Hughes is not gay and guys joking around in the dressing room is normal for most team sports. Riordan was maybe a bit unwise to mention joking around in the dressing room 8 years ago, but these guys with warped minds need too let it go. Its getting boring.

I would back up Private Pike's view that it is not likely that Riordan is an alcoholic or anything like it. Its an attitude problem he has and that's what he needs to sort out. If you see him on the pitch, he is obviously fit and keeps going for 90 minutes - always looking to take a half chance to score a goal. He is always going to be a target for yobs and bouncers to challenge him so the only 'sensible' thing to do is to stay away. Maybe he will eventually grow up and I hope its not too late.
23

Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

05/08/2009 11:08:41
#17 As a Hibs fan should you not be concerned about the impact Riordan could have on the U19's coming into the first team?

They will obviously hero worship Riordan, and surely Hughes needs to get Deeks onto the straight and narrow or run the risk of his U19 players joining up with Riordan on his city centre jaunts.

Far better to sell him if he can't change so that he only ruins his own career, and not the careers of 3 or 4 talented youngsters who look up to him?
24

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 11:19:20
#23

Sigh...

So if we sold him he wouldn't have an influence on other youngsters at his new club?

Or are we not thinking that through then?
25

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 11:21:18
#23

Maybe you're still harbouring hopes that he will sign for Hearts.

Can you imagine Hearts having a player of the class of Riordan?

No me neither.
26

Salvatori,

05/08/2009 12:43:12
21 You obviously didn't support Hibs in the MacGinlay era, lest you wouldn't make such throw away comments.
27

WE ARE WE ARE WE ARE THE HEARTS,

05/08/2009 13:12:40
Riordan is an absolute clown, an embarrassment to himself and his family, to his club and to anyone that condones his actions on and off the park in attempting to cause serious public order.

Am sure his 'slap on the wrist' from Hibs will really change him.....not.
28

Roscoe P Coltrane,

05/08/2009 13:43:50
I can't believe Pike has put the words "class" and "Riordan" in the same sentence, with only one word separating them!

Quality yes, class absolutely not.
29

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 14:34:27
#28 OK. Quality.

Doesn't change my point.
30

Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

05/08/2009 14:55:41
#25 Why Hearts? Not a fan of Hibs or Hearts.

Why would you care as a Hibs fan what he does to the young players at another club? He would not have the same hero worship at his new club that he does at Hibs now would he? Would have thought the well being at Hibs would have been your priority?
31

Private Pike,

05/08/2009 15:07:06
#30 Can you really be this daft?
32

morris,

edinburgh 05/08/2009 18:43:09
31 Indeed you wonder how a player with such talented feet can have a total vaccum between the ears?

He is in what should be the middle of his carreer and he had better get a grip opr he will be shown the door and he can kiss a top league side goodbye.
I think he was hit by one football too many as a child and he never progressed beyond that mental age.It will be sad if John Hughes has to show him the door before he realises he is not only replaceable HE WILL BE REPLACED!
Do your talking on the park with your feet ,because that's the only part of you that works!
Personally I would just kick him out and not even bother trying anymore.

 

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