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Blow for Rangers fans as Zenit take full ticket allocation



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TICKET-LESS Rangers fans hoping to find a way into the UEFA Cup final against Zenit St Petersburg were dealt a fresh blow today when the Russian club claimed they would taking up their full allocation.
A scramble for tickets for the May 14 final at the City of Manchester Stadium began immediately after Nacho Novo scored the penalty shoot-out winner for the Light Blues against Fiorentina in Florence last Thursday.

Due mainly to political reasons,
there has been no tradition of Russian football fans travelling outside their country to follow their clubs.

When Rangers beat Moscow Dynamo in the European Cup Winners' Cup final in the Nou Camp in 1972, there were only a handful of Dynamo supporters in the stadium.

Despite a relaxation in rules surrounding travel in and out of Russia in recent years, Zenit manager Dick Advocaat feared there might only be around 5,000 Zenit fans making the journey to England.

Consequently, many Rangers fans hoped that the St Petersburg club might send back part of their 13,000 allocation to be reissued.

However, a spokesman for Zenit told PA Sport that all their tickets will be snapped up.

The spokesman said: "We will sell all our tickets, there is no doubt about that.

"We had 3,000 in Munich for the first leg of our semi-final against Bayern and many more want to go to Manchester.

"We have had our first allocation of 7,000 tickets from UEFA and they are gone.

"We are waiting for the second part of 4,000 and I have no doubt that they will be sold too, as will the rest we get.

"Our fans will have no problems travelling to Britain.

"They do need a special passport that allows them to leave the country but many of our 16,000 season-ticket holders and our other fans, already have it.

"They also need a visa to travel to Britain but the British Consulate will open offices in St Petersburg and Moscow to allow those to be rushed through."

Zenit will be appearing in their first European final and it appears that the Russian club's fans are equally as keen to get to Manchester as their Ibrox counterparts.

The spokesman continued: "Some of our fans will be flying from St Petersburg to Riga, then to Manchester.

"Others will be flying from St Petersburg to London then getting a train to Manchester.

"The average salary for our fans is around 500 euro (£390) per month and some of the air fares are 600 euro (£470) so it is an expensive trip and it means that not many of our young fans will be able to afford it.

"But we will have a very enthusiastic support in Manchester."




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  • Last Updated: 05 May 2008 4:20 PM
  • Source: The Scotsman
  • Location: Edinburgh
  • Related Topics: UEFA Cup
 
1

James,,

05/05/2008 14:20:11
How dare they deprive Rangers fans of their rightful tickets!
2

James,,

05/05/2008 14:24:38
Why has the Celtic thread been closed after only 9 innocuous comments?

Moderation, not censorship, Scotsman!
3

invictager,

Kent 05/05/2008 14:29:31
Maybe we bored them to death.
4

feed the bear,

05/05/2008 14:34:54
This is a blow....but even if they did not take their full allocation.....hearts will be broken.

Good luck with the search lads.
5

Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 15:06:36
So the Scotsman closes one set of comments then opens up another one. Hmm.

Bad news about the tickets but that's the way it goes. Any Bears hunting outside official channels should look out for scams e.g. fake ebay emails and scams which use Western Union in an inappropriate way.
6

James,,

05/05/2008 15:24:24
Two sets of comments closed Teary. The Rangers one was possibly heading in an uncomfortable direction, but I don't understand why the Celtic thread was closed as well. There's nothing on it that could possibly offend anyone.

To any Rangers fans thinking of buying tickets from internet ticket agencies - be careful.

I paid £400 for a Seville ticket from a Cockney ticket agency, and was told I would have it seven days before the match. When it didn't arrive, I phoned them up, but they said, unfortunately, they never got the tickets themselves. To this day, I'm sure someone phoned them up after they sold it to me and offered £500.

Luckily, I got my money back, but by then I'd already booked two days off work and had paid for a flight to Malaga which was unrefundable. I had the option of travelling without a ticket, or see the £200 for the flight go to waste. Tickets were changing hands there for £1,000 plus.

Rangers fans are only going to Manchester, but watch you don't get ripped-off.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 15:32:04
Touts will be selling tickets at £500 a throw in Manchester.

Personally I'd advise all ticketless Rangers fans to stay at home - there is no point in getting caught up inthe after match riot is there?
8

G...,

Scotland 05/05/2008 15:44:55
i'd be suprised if they are going for as low as 500 quid tbh

9

Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 15:48:16
Couldn't help yourself, could you Tim? Don't forget that not a single Gers fan has been arrested on the numerous European trips this season. Or maybe you want to go through lists of bad behaviour on each side and probably get yet another discussion closed?
10

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 15:50:43
9

Teary me bhoy, I'm not trying to get any thread closed, I am merely offering decent Rangers fans a bit of advice that will aid their personal safety. What is wrong with that?
11

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 15:52:19
9

Teary What happened after the last European Final contested by Rangers?

Please tell the younger posters.
12

James,,

05/05/2008 15:56:59
#11,

Didn't Rangers fans joyfully invade the pitch BEFORE the final whistle? Was it once or twice?
13

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 15:57:24
Teary

Here's a wee link to your angelic fans behaviour this season in one of the worlds culture capitals.

http://spanishfootballsports.blogspot.com/2007/11/rangers-fans-in-barcelona-back-to-dark.html

14

Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 15:58:06
Tim, if any younger posters really want to know they can ask me. Then they can ask you about Rapid Vienna....

How long do you think such a thread would last?
15

Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 16:01:01
#13,

No Gers fans arrested in Barcelona this season. Two Celtic fans arrested, one for hitting a police officer and the other for beating up a taxi driver, 60 other Celtic fans fined for such things as soliciting prostitutes. Are you sure you don't want the thread closed?
16

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:01:44
Teary / James

Here's a refelctive piece from the Times on Rangers behaviour that night - check out Rangers manager Waddells comments.

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The problem was that a significant cross-section of them were drunk and had behaved abominably – and frightened the local people – in the build-up to the final. And it was this fact which, to this day, remains in my mind as the cause of the most startling and intemperate outburst I have ever come across by a football manager.

Willie Waddell was the Rangers manager back then. Apparently, he was a good man, though he could be sour and grumpy – or “crabbit” as the old Scottish word has it. Waddell was also given to fits of snobbery, in that strange, quite unwarranted way of many old working-class Scots. He openly detested what he viewed as the unsavoury ways of the sort of underclass that followed football (Waddell himself wouldn’t have used the term “underclass” but it was often his clear inference).

In the aftermath of the 1972 Nou Camp riot, while Rangers were busy pleading with Uefa not to come down heavily on the club, Waddell was still beside himself with rage at his club’s supporters when he aimed the following piece of invective at them: “It is to these tikes, hooligans, louts and drunkards that I pinpoint my message – it is because of your gutter-rat behaviour that we [Rangers FC] are being publicly tarred and feathered . . . ”

From today’s perspective, this is eyewatering stuff. Note also, amid all his other opprobrium, Waddell’s pejorative use of such words as “tikes” and “gutter-rat”, clear evidence of the sort of snobbery to which I referred. And can anyone today ever imagine a Rangers manager brazenly using such language? Imagine Walter Smith coming away with this “tikes” and “gutter-rat” stuff: it would be the end of the world, the phone-ins and websites would be in meltdown.

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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:03:06
14

Ask me about Rapid Vienna? I was there that night right in that corner where it all happened.

I will tell everyone exactly what happened.
18

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:04:22
Teary I don't see what your problem is? All I am saying is - ticketless fans stay at home. Where is the harm in that?????

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Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 16:07:33
Were you at both Rapid Vienna games in the UK, Tim?

As for Barcelona 1972, whatever Waddell's emotional comments at the time, the trouble was caused by a police over-reaction to fans coming on the pitch to celebrate - as was very common in those days.
21

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:08:38
20

Just the Parkhead game not the game in Vienna or the Old Trafford fiasco.
22

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:09:36
19

Ah another master-debater I see.
23

James,,

05/05/2008 16:10:55
#19,

Tim is not a T0SSER.

You're lying.

Liar.
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05/05/2008 16:11:56
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05/05/2008 16:13:06
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:13:21
20

There was a little over-reaction I agree - but Spanish police had seen these same Rangers fans, intimidate the local community, urinate on the steps of their great cathedral, and generally create a public nuisance in the town during the day - naturally they were wound up.

After the game the Rangers fans did behave despicably, even Rangers players such as DJ and Doddie and Jardine told the horror stories afterwards.
27

James,,

05/05/2008 16:13:23
#24,

Tetchy!
28

James,,

05/05/2008 16:14:37
#25,

Calm down dear! It's just a football thread!
29

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:16:30
Teary take note of the behaviour of no.24/25.

If anyone gets this thread closed it will be this numpty.

Typical Rangers scum - Scotland's shame.

All decent Rangers fans must be embarrassed by wee narra peepil like RAU (poster 24 & 25)
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05/05/2008 16:16:36
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05/05/2008 16:17:42
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:18:15
24

Hope I am not getting to you. You sound far (heehee)too big and clever to be wound up. (titter)
33

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05/05/2008 16:19:16
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:19:53
31

Oh dear finger slipped on the keyboard did it?

Monkey paws are difficult for typing as I understand. Never mind son keep trying.

And don't let me wind you up (teehee)
35

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:20:57
33

Are you going to manchester?

I heard you'd ask the Governor for a transfer to Strangeways.
36

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05/05/2008 16:21:25
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:21:52
33

Monkey Mitts behave yerself wee man. Come on now act age not pawsize. (eeh eeh)
38

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05/05/2008 16:22:30
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:23:09
36

Monkey Mitts - I admit I am bias and a bigot against bigoted morons like you.

Now away back to yer wee rusty cage. (eeh eeh)
40

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:23:50
38

Barlinnie USA! Sounds good mind you. (eeh eeh)
41

James,,

05/05/2008 16:24:22
#30,

Everything about you reeks of perma-rage. No stats required.

This thread was harmless enough until you showed up with your personal insults and crude language.
42

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:26:24
41 James

Best to just humour the cretin.

If he's lucky he might see his time out if he keeps his mouth shut in Bar L USA (tee hee)
43

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05/05/2008 16:28:29
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James,,

05/05/2008 16:29:15
Tim #42,

He's The Birdman of Orange County Gaol no doubt.
45

Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 16:30:23
#26,

Funny then that Rangers were invited back to Barcelona shortly afterwards for a prestigious pre-season tournament. Indeed many locals appreciated the Rangers fans standing up to Franco's police goons.

As for Rapid Vienna, Celtic were made to replay the match because their fans threw bottles and other missiles at the Rapid players. Then they were ordered to play behind closed doors after their fans assaulted Rapid players at the replayed game.

We can also move onto various other aspects of Celtic fans' behaviour if you really want to, such as battling with Spanish police at Vigo airport, forcing an airliner into an emergency landing, various other instances of missile-throwing, various other assaults on opposition players (including the man whoo is now your manager!), pelting Mark Walters with bananas, stabbing each other in the pie queue at Firhill, various raids on the homes of players, referees, etc.....
46

James,,

05/05/2008 16:32:42
C'mon Teary, Rangers got banned from Europe for a year (reduced from two on appeal) after Barcelona. Hardly equates to the Rapid Vienna fiasco.
47

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:33:08
43 Funny I went to a fee paying private school which was non denominational and also have two university degrees. But I can prevent my typos, you monkey mitts will always be a narrow minded dullard.

Now away and pluck your banjo "squeal piggy"

48

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05/05/2008 16:35:08
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Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 16:40:40
James,

Not many clubs can have been ordered to replay a game by UEFA beacuse of hooliganism then have to be punished again by UEFA because of more fan violence at the replayed game. Do you know of any?
50

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:40:41
Teary

Rapid Vienna panned out like this.

Celtic scored and Rapid complained to the linesman that Tommy Burns kicked the ball out of the keepers hands.

A few bottles were thrown from the jungle. No Rapid player was hit by a missile. However a Rapid player did emerge from Parkhead with a huge bandage on his head - no wound or injury was ever proven.

The tie was over and Celtic were through. Then Rapid appealed. Incredibly a replay was ordered and it had to be over 200 miles from Celtic Park - though still no injury to any Rapid player was proved.

The leg was played and Rapid scored. A few Celtic fans invaded the pitch when Rapid scored and the scorer attacked - but again no Rapid player was injured.

It was sad that frustration at being cheated caused a few emotional hooligans to react the way they did.

Now compare that with thousands of drunken Rangers fans going full blooded with the spanish police force right in the middle of Europe's biggest sporting venue.
51

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05/05/2008 16:43:12
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James,,

05/05/2008 16:46:02
Teary,

Do you know of any Scottish club, other than Rangers, BANNED from European competition?
53

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:47:32
51 Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. It's all maybes. With you though there are no maybes. We all know you are thick and a bigot to boot.

But you are doing well at acting big and clever and it is funny that you are taking longer to reply, obviously making sure your spelling etc is all ok. Tough having those monkey mitts innit?

But hey don't let me wind you up. (snigger snigger)
54

Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 16:48:55
#50,

You admit yourself bottles were thrown. Other missiles such as coins were thrown too. Whether they hit or missed, that was the hooliganism.

As for the game in Manchester, the Rapid players really were assaulted - one got kicked full-on in the groin for example.

As for Barcelona 72, I've already covered that.

I'm not trying to pretend that all Rangers fans are angels but Celtic fans have plenty to answer for too.
55

James,,

05/05/2008 16:49:12
Talking of misunderstood, didn't the Spanish polis know it was just an outbreak of uncontrollable joy that caused THOUSANDS of Rangers supporters to invade the pitch when the referee blew for a free-kick a few minutes from the end of the CWC Final? How were they to know it wasn't full time?

Honest mistake by the Gers fans, honest mistake by the polis. Just a misunderstanding all round.
56

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:50:24
54

We were cheated, hence the outrage and frustration.

Rangers won and still went bananas.
57

Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 16:50:37
#52,

No. How about you answering my question in #49 (it's not just confined to Scottish clubs - you can use any country)?
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05/05/2008 16:50:43
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:54:46
Teary

Let's move on as this will just become tit for tat with RAU the dullard chucking in abusive comments left right and centre to satisfy his rage at being banged up 23 hours a day.

Bottom line is this. Is it not better for RFC to put on their own show at Ibrox on the night rather than tens of thousands going to a city where they are unwelcome.
60

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 16:56:41
58

You are so big and clever (tee hee, smirk smirk)
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Teary Ennui,

05/05/2008 16:57:49
#59,

I agree we should move on.

It's also my personal view that fans of any team would be better not to travel to such a match without tickets (or at least some really serious chance of getting a ticket). But many fans of various clubs take a different view....
62

James,,

05/05/2008 17:00:08
Teary #54,

Maybe you could give us a link to a video of the incident, but I think it was BOTTLE not BOTTLES. Whether coins were thrown or not is difficult to say, as the pictures were far from conclusive.

The Rapid Vienna player collapsed, claiming to have been hit by a bottle, which clearly missed him by several feet. Rapid refused to allow the St. John's Ambulance men to examine him, and they changed their story after seeing the TV replays, saying it wasn't a bottle, but something smaller that hit him.

UEFA originally fined Celtic £4,000 and Rapid £5,000 for the incident. Only after Rapid appealed did UEFA order a replay, yet DOUBLED Rapid's fine at the same time. I remember that the appeals body that made that decision only had three members in attendance, with at least one absent member saying he hadn't been informed when the meeting was to take place. Very strange.

Now about Barcelona - how can you defend the THOUSANDS of Rangers fans invading the pitch BEFORE the end of the game? If your team was holding on to a 3-2 lead, was it quite common in those days to invade the pitch?
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:00:22
61

I never went to Seville because of work commitments and I was offered a ticket.
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Daillyman,

05/05/2008 17:01:20
29 Tim

There was a decent bit of banter on the Gers thread until "Celtic_minded" (his name on the threads), showed up, after a couple of his posts the thread was closed.

James was on the thread at the same time and I am sure he can verify.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:03:21
James

Two things.

1. Several bottles came onto the pitch (three possibly four)

2. It was common for fans to invade the pitch back then - believe it or not tens of fans sometimes would run onto the pitch if a team scored.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:04:16
65

dinnae let me wind you up noo (tee hee)
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:07:14
64

Brian good afternoon,

Yes I realise several threads have been closed and yes I admit some of the culprits are Celtic fans.



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Daillyman,

05/05/2008 17:14:55
James as said previously in 72 the Gers support wrongly invaded the park before the final whistle. A mistake.

Spanish police from the early days of British clubs playing ties there have been pretty hard on visiting supporters, and they have a tendency to swing first as questions on their conduct will not be asked by government officials.

In contrast when the Celtic beat Inter to win the EC. and the Celtic support invaded the parkat the final whistle the police in Lisbon handled it correctly and stood back.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:18:35
69

Brian I think it was the Rangers fans anti-catholic behaviour in the lead up to the game that had the spanish police wound up. Celtic have always had a great reputation in Spain - ever since wee Jinky thrilled 120,000 spaniards in the Bernabau at Di Stefano's testimonial.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:19:56
1-0 Chelsea - Ballack scores from a close range header.

Fine goal.
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James,,

05/05/2008 17:20:19
Daillyman #64,

I don't really know why that thread was closed. "Celtic-minded" had one post removed, which basically said Rangers had not signed a Catholic for a long time (or something along those lines).

The rest of his posts are still there to see. I don't think there is anything there worthy of closing the thread. His first post was nearly an hour before the thread was closed.

I'm not saying it was anyone else's fault either. I really don't understand why the thread was closed.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:22:43
72 James

No matter what it's sad that threads are closed because the likes of RAU can't communicate in a civilized manner.
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James,,

05/05/2008 17:25:50
#66,

At University, I used to attend the home games of an English lower league side who had been old-money First Division regulars back in the 80's. EVERY TIME they scored, one eejit would run on to the park celebrating like he'd scored himself. EVERY TIME it happened, the offender would be huckled out.

Didn't stop it hapening every time a goal was scored. I think some people just wanted to leave early without losing face in front of their mates. The football was pretty awful.
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Daillyman,

05/05/2008 17:26:53
70 Tim

As I said a lot of other British/English clubs visiting support have had problems with Spanish police over the years. I was not comparing the Gers to the Tic playing there it was a general observation to things that had happened in the past to clubs visiting from the UK.
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James,,

05/05/2008 17:28:00
Tim #73,

He has been trying hard to come across as the educated type since he was slapped into place earlier.

I don't think there's much else to do in the State Pen that doesn't involve personal humiliation. Maybe he's not "pretty" enough?
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invictager,

Kent 05/05/2008 17:31:29
The rangers thread wasn't helped by the so called celtic fan (may have been an idiot at the wind up) at post 46.

The celtic thread had no reason to be shut down other than to stop everyone migrating there.
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05/05/2008 17:32:17
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James,,

05/05/2008 17:33:14
#77,

You couldn't handle a gentle wind-up and retorted with abuse.

Now you're trying to blame someone else for your lack of humour.

Sad really.
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Daillyman,

05/05/2008 17:33:38
72 James

FYI, our friend (celtic minded) had 2 of the last 4 posts before the thread was closed, and he had a red card 5 minutes before the whistle blew signalling the end of the thread.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:33:40
76 LOL James

75 That's a funny one too, you're on form today. Talking of fans, I remember going to Firhill with a couple of mates who were Thistle fans. Throughout the whole game (which was pretty dire too) this old boy was giving Thistle players dog's abuse. The old guy left with 5 minutes to go and was shouting at the director's box "I'll never be back here"

I said to my mate "looks like the jags have lost another fan"

My mate replied "Naw that's auld Jimmy McLaren he does that every week"
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:35:15
77 / 79

More big and clever stuff, my oh my! (snigger snigger)

song moment - monkey magic, monkey magic

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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:36:11
81

Brian sounds like this guy was a Rangers player!
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Daillyman,

05/05/2008 17:37:18
84

I was thinking Pax.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:37:34
James

Gotta admit it is fun toying with cretins like RAU.
Shame he can't take his slaps like a man. Still he is one of the easier fish to fry.

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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:38:37
86

Brian, pax?

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Daillyman,

05/05/2008 17:39:46
88

Pax, Max whatever you like.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:43:21
2-0 Chelsea a great goal scored by malouda
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:45:32
Brian / Teary

Do you think Rangers will win every game between now and the season's end?
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:48:02
Calling RAU Calling RAU Calling RAU

The Big Daddy in Cell 67 is wanting to see you. (tee hee)

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James,,

05/05/2008 17:50:58
293474606 #85,

Ahh yes, 1968. Celtic couldn't play on the Saturday because their opponents, Dunfermline, were playing Hearts in the Scottish Cup Final. When should Dunferline have played Celtic - on the Saturday morning or early evening?

Either way, it wouldn't have been fair would it?

Celtic had to play them on the Wednesday. The advantaged they gained was down to Rangers losing to Aberdeen on the Saturday, meaning that Celtic were already champions before they played on the Wednesday. Even if Rangers had won 15-0 against Aberdeen, a 1-0 win for Celtic would have clinched the title.

What would your solution have been?
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:52:16
93

Solution? Just give Rangers the title as they try to do every season.
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James,,

05/05/2008 17:53:30
Tim,

I wonder what his "prison name" is? Candy perhaps?
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:54:12
95

Probably Piggy, because of the way he squeals.
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Daillyman,

05/05/2008 17:54:27
91

I think it is asking a lot to finish the season winning all their matches.

If we ended up with treble of UEFA Cup, Scottish Cup and CIS Cup to me it would not be the end of the world.

We all want to win the league and the bragging rights that go with it, as well as the CL group stages entry along with the money.

We will know by weeks end where the SPL flag will end up.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:55:04
Chelsea win 2-0 and it goes to the last day of the season.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:56:35
Brian

What if you won the Uef and the title but lost to QoS, would you be a happy bear or demand that Smith be sacked for Rangers worst cup final result in their history.
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Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 17:57:57
97

I don't think we will know by the week's end where the title will go.

I think we will still not know in the last 5 minutes of the last games on the Thursday night.
101

James,,

05/05/2008 18:00:14
#97,

If Rangers drop five points to Motherwell and Dundee Utd, I believe Celtic could clinch it on Sunday with a win over Hibernian.

But not even I am that optimistic!
102

Magnet,

05/05/2008 18:02:19
97
Don`t let these puppets fool you into believing that the league is theirs. It`s only in their heads and deep down they know it`s Ibrox bound and they are just clutching at straws !
103

Daillyman,

05/05/2008 18:02:22
Tim

These are all "if's and but's"

But to be the first Scottish team to win a European competition in 36 years would be fantastic.

I think if you asked the players would they prefer a European winners medal or an SPL league winners medal, if they were honest they would take the European medal, how many chances do you get to win one.

With the league medal, on average they have a 50/50 chance every year to win it.
104

Richardinho,

05/05/2008 18:02:41
I believe it will go down to the final day, one way or the other. Given that we were seemingly dead and buried a few weeks ago, I don't think we can ask for more than that.
If nothing else, at least we have recovered a bit of pride and can take that into next year.
105

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 18:03:00
101

James even if that happened we could still not clinch it on Sunday. In the circumstances you describe Rangers could still win it on goal difference. ie...If they beat St Mirren, Motherwell and the Dons by a barrowload and we lost at Tannadice.

106

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 18:04:33
102 Magnet

When we do win it, I hope you will be man enough to return here and say:
"Congratulations on being Champions again Celtic."
107

Daillyman,

05/05/2008 18:05:08
102 Magnet

Nobody is fooling anybody. If the Gers win their next 2 home matches the pressure suddenly switches. And guess who would be in the drivers seat.
108

James,,

05/05/2008 18:05:35
Tom #100,

For that to happen, Celtic would have to beat Hibs, AND Rangers would have to beat Motherwell (h), Dundee Utd (h), Motherwell (a) and St. Mirren (or as Gordon Smith calls them "The Enemy") (a).

Can you see Rangers winning ALL of those matches? Not impossible I know, but with their record this season, it doesn't look god for them.

109

James,,

05/05/2008 18:06:01
woops! Tim #100. Sorry!
110

James,,

05/05/2008 18:07:33
Daillyman #103,

You do a great disservice to Aberdeen, who won the Cup Winners Cup in 1983.
111

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 18:07:43
107 Brian

I expect Rangers to win their remaining two home games. But I still think they will stumble at Fir Park and Pittodrie.
112

Magnet,

05/05/2008 18:08:45
106
I also hope that when the Teds win it you can do the same. Silly Brother Wilfred was on earlier saying that he would rather be in Celtics position rather than Rangers. You are right Daillyman nobody is fooling anybody ! Some deluded fooling themselves !
113

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 18:10:09
110

James you do them a disservice also - they won the European Super Cup in 1983 after that CWC win.
114

Daillyman,

05/05/2008 18:10:13
James,

My apologies to everyone I stand corrected.
115

Richardinho,

05/05/2008 18:10:26
When i saw the fixtures, I thought the two places that Rangers might slip up were at Hibs and against Aberdeen. I don't see them dropping points anywhere else tbh, but you never know,
116

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 18:11:51
115 Rich

I think Fir Park will be a toughie on the back of their exertions and defeat in Manchester three days earlier.
117

James,,

05/05/2008 18:12:16
Tim #110,

That's not a real competition is it? I always think it's like UEFA's Charity Shield.

You're right though, they did win it.
118

Magnet,

05/05/2008 18:13:19
115 Dickydinho 104
These last two posts from yourself have been the best I have read from you ! Bank holidays obviously agree with you !
119

Tim_MallÔy,

05/05/2008 18:13:24
117

It is competitive James. I remember two cracking games when Aberdeen beat Hamburg.
120

Daillyman,

05/05/2008 18:14:08
Tim

Every European tie the Gers have played this season you have forecast a loss. We should do okay now in Manchester. Thanks.
121

Daillyman,

05/05/2008 18:15:53