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Published Date: 11 August 2009
VLADIMIR Romanov's bank has seen its profits nearly wiped out as the impact of the global recession takes its toll.
New figures from Ukio Bankas, where the Hearts chief is the major backer, show profits shrunk by 91 per cent in the first half of this year.

In the six months to the end of June, the Lithuanian bank only just stayed in the black, recording a net profit of £1.1 million.

News of the plunging performance of the firm that has helped Mr Romanov earn his fortune comes amid growing concerns about Hearts' bills going unpaid.

Last month, a "wind-up" action was lodged by HM Revenue & Customs over unpaid tax, although the dispute has now been resolved, and there is no link between the bank and the Tynecastle club.

Despite its profits dive, Ukio Bankas insists that its start to the year has been "positive".

Arnas Zalys, head of the firm's finance office, said: "Taken into consideration current market situation we view the first half-year results of Ukio bankas positively.

"The main reasons of the group's lower profits are growing expense for provisions and narrowed net interest margin due to more expensive borrowing in the local market, also reduced client activity during economic recession."

There is no longer a direct link between Hearts owner Ukio Bankas Investment Group and Ukio Bankas, the club's sponsor, as UBIG was sold by the bank several years ago.

However, Mr Romanov remains a major backer in both companies and Ukio Bankas first announced plans to open a branch in Edinburgh soon after he took the reins at Hearts.

There remains serious doubt about whether it will ever be able to open its branch at 10 Castle Street to the public.

It was first supposed to open by the end of March 2007 but it is understood that the company has found it difficult to get a UK bank to back its move into the country.

A bronze plaque was erected at the office in 2007 with the company's name on it and a team of seven members of staff have been working from Castle Street for nearly a year – without any customers.

A dedicated UK website was set up for the firm nearly two years ago, featuring the company's logo and a picture of Edinburgh Castle, but it still says: "The website of Ukio Bankas Edinburgh branch is coming soon."

Nobody at the company could be contacted today to confirm whether it was still confident about the move into the city.

But banking sources say few UK banks would be willing to underwrite a foreign company's arrival into the country in the current climate.

Bryan Johnston, a divisional director at investment firm Brewin Dolphin, said it is not surprising to see profits decline by as much as 91 per cent in the current climate.

He said: "Markets are difficult at the moment and everyone's margins are under pressure.

"If anything, it is actually quite commendable for a company like that to make any sort of profit.

"It all depends in what extent the management are involved in the less recognised asset classes.

"Some smaller banks are quite conventional and have very few toxic loans. It is these types who are doing slightly better than others."


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1

TFM,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:00:01
What the point in this story then, other than to get the Hobo's all wet in the pants?

His bank made a PROFIT, in this climate they should be applauded.

2

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11/08/2009 12:00:51
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DougieHMFC,

11/08/2009 12:03:28
Negative spin about a bank that actually makes a profit in today's climate, in a country that has had an economic contraction of about one fifth?

I didn't think this paper could get more inane. Good work, Evening News. Very good work.
4

Roy of the Rovers,

11/08/2009 12:05:11
Let's get ready folks,
closure is a coming,

ta-ta jamtarts hopefully......
5

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11/08/2009 12:05:52
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Boo81,

11/08/2009 12:07:40
Honestly getting so sick of this newspapers smarmy, cynical approach towards Hearts.

The story should have been reported 'Vlad's company still in the black despite economic crisis'. How many other banks can say the same?

Blackley is just showing himself to be the narrow minded parochial little hack that he is.

7

alfonsa pedrosa,

embra 11/08/2009 12:08:14
Well,at least he has not gone under,in todays climate he is showing a profit,look what he has done at Tynecastle.
8

Blondie,

11/08/2009 12:11:06
#4 I wondered just how long it would take for one of you lot to crawl out of the woodwork and make your tediously predictable comments! Think you missed out the "tick tock" part though...
9

Mr Jaffa,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:13:53

'Last month, a "wind-up" action was lodged by HM Revenue & Customs over unpaid tax, although the dispute has now been resolved, and there is no link between the bank and the Tynecastle club.'

so why mention this in the article??????? it has been resolved AND there is no link.

AND

'There is no longer a direct link between Hearts owner Ukio Bankas Investment Group and Ukio Bankas, the club's sponsor, as UBIG was sold by the bank several years ago.'

so the profits (or losses) of the bank are irrelevant to Hearts as a limited company???




10

Roy of the Rovers,

11/08/2009 12:15:44
Zagreb have been champs of Croatia 2006-07, 2007-08, 2008-09,

The wee Hearts i feel your agony......
11

Roderick,

Barnard Castle 11/08/2009 12:18:36
"Bryan Johnston, a divisional director at investment firm Brewin Dolphin, said it is not surprising to see profits decline by as much as 91 per cent in the current climate.

He said: "Markets are difficult at the moment and everyone's margins are under pressure.

"If anything, it is actually quite commendable for a company like that to make any sort of profit.

"It all depends in what extent the management are involved in the less recognised asset classes.

"Some smaller banks are quite conventional and have very few toxic loans. It is these types who are doing slightly better than others."

I'd have thought a more appropriate heading for the story would have been; "Vlad's Bank Commended"
12

Dood,

11/08/2009 12:19:06
Even as a 'Hobo' I'd have to admit that this article is a total and utter pile of baws.

Barely worth any more comment really......
13

Mr Jaffa,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:19:55
Here is how the article should have been written (telling the full story using facts)

Lithuanian Bank Ukio Bankas today announced a 91% drop in net profit for the first six months of the year. The Bank, which has no direct link to Hearts however is part owned by Hearts owner Vladimir Romanov, announced profits of £1.1 million for the first 6 months of the year, results which it declares to be positive given the current market environment.

Market analysts have described the results as positive stating that 'it is actually quite commendable for a company like that to make any sort of profit.'

End of Article.
14

Snake,

11/08/2009 12:20:05
#6

Exactly, every week poor stories and

Wake up Blackey....the company made a profit of 1.1m, i suggest you research results which have recentely been announced for RBS and LLOYDS.
15

Ima Stoner,

11/08/2009 12:20:56
#4 - I'm with you on that one!

#8 - and the jambos don't make any derogative comments about Hibs eh? Aye right!!

16

Davey,

London 11/08/2009 12:21:45
What a ridiculous story. A bank, makes a profit, in this climate, and the EEN is making out this is some sort of crisis for Hearts.

Seriously, what a bunch of ****ing muppets you lot are.

17

Made_In _Leith,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:22:09
What a pointless story. Some foreign bank makes a £1.1 million profit. Who cares?

Mind you, it will be interesting to see if this banks profit is the same amount as the increase in hertz debt, as was the case last year.
18

Tam Weea,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:22:13
Terrible article. This paper has gone downhill rapidly.

My old man who read the Scotsman for 40 years stopped a while ago as he was so fed up with the poor journalism and sensationalist stories.

And to the hibby tick-tockers - bore off.
19

Chas Niceass,

11/08/2009 12:22:18
Are they not bored printing these stories yet. No banner headlines to say the taxman will not be Ken Dodding or Lester Piggotting Hearts.
20

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11/08/2009 12:27:11
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Gies a break,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:28:35
Can't believe the depths that scotsman publications have sunk to in recent years in trying to grab a headline. The bank made a profit. Get a grip.
22

Alba-Hibs,

11/08/2009 12:28:37
What profit did Johnston Press make last year??
23

John H,

edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:33:40
You boys are getting a bit edgy today. No more bank to rely on, question is does this put hearts in a better position financially or not?
All the eggs in one basket never normally seems a good idea so why would this be any different.
UBIG's accounts, not available. Why? You should be asking searching questions of them, after all it's your future that's on the line.
24

Dragonlord,

11/08/2009 12:34:49
It has all been said above! This publication is nothing more than a Hobo rag! Where is the headile story about Rangers fire sale ect? Oh I forgot they are british.
25

Hi Hi Hibees.....Ha ha ha hearts,

11/08/2009 12:35:25
If all you yams dinae like this bloody paper why are you all on the web site everyday complaining you think the EEN is a hobo, peg selling, crepe paper? Mine you I would not have the same entertainment oota this site if it wasnae for the yams on here.

GGTTH

26

JT,

11/08/2009 12:38:08
Once again the pro hibs journalists are allowed loose on the public again. What has this to do with football?
Also could the EEN confirm how much "profit" RBS and HBOS made last year.... exactly!
27

Jambos,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:42:00
EEN, you should be f**king ashamed to publish this keek. When are you going to stop this campaign against Vlad you shower of MONKEYS! The bank made a PROFIT. No matter how small, in the current climate it should be commended.

The EEN is now sitting in the same pit as the tabloid rags. Well done!!!!!
28

Wayne Wayne SUPER Wayne,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:43:16
"At one point, the share price fell to 18p - less than a quarter of the cover price of the group's Scotsman title.

Johnston cut more than 1,000 jobs last year and is merging The Scotsman and Scotland on Sunday newsrooms." - I'm surprised you weren't on the list Blackley
29

Sloth,

Stop your messing around.... 11/08/2009 12:43:21
#20. Eddie,

I am always here for you my child. How's the new training regimes getting on?
30

Gies a break,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:48:38
Ukio bankas Group reports first half-year 2009 profit of LTL 6.2 million

http://www.ub.lt/ShowPage.aspx?MenuC=1568&ShowDoc=news.2009_08_04&PageLang=ENG&PageFontSize=&BackUrlName=All%20news&BackUrlHref=AllNewsHref

2009 08 04
According to unaudited data, Ukio bankas Group has earned a LTL 6.2 million net profit during the first half-year 2009, which is 88 percent lower compared to the same period 2008 net profit result of LTL 53.7 million.

During the first half-year 2009 AB Ukio bankas has earned a net profit of LTL 4.6 million, which is 91 percent lower compared to the same period 2008 result of LTL 50.6 million.

During the first half-year 2009 Ukio bankas Group assets have grown by LTL 246 million, i. e. by 6 percent, and in the end of June amounted to LTL 4.2 billion. During the first 6 months of 2009 deposits of Ukio bankas Group clients have increased by 6 percent and in the end of June amounted to LTL 3.1 billion.

The net value of the loan portfolio has not changed much and at the end of the period amounted to LTL 2.9 billion. The ratio of loan provisions and loans granted has increased from 3.38 percent to 4.05 percent during the first half-year of 2009.

“Taken into consideration current market situation we view the first half-year results of Ukio bankas positively. The main reasons of the Group’s lower profits are growing expense for provisions and narrowed net interest margin due to more expensive borrowing in the local market, also reduced client activity during economic recession. However, irrespective of the weakened economy of the country we continued working with our present clients, extended the range of services, actively granted small loans,” said Arnas Žalys, Head of Ukio bankas Finance Office.
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11/08/2009 12:51:14
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Wee Dennis,

Haymarket 11/08/2009 12:54:11
1.1M profit- how much are Hearts paying per year in interest, and how much do they owe?
33

Sloth,

11/08/2009 12:59:19
Why does it concern you dennis you wee plum.
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11/08/2009 13:00:33
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hibbyspurs,

11/08/2009 13:05:19
Yawn.......

Who cares? Honestly, who the f€ck cares?

So what if Ukio mad 1.1M? I wouldnt care if the had lost 1.1bn.......

Read the article..... No link to Hearts, so why bring the yams into the story anyway?

This company doesn't even have a real presence in this country apart from its "branch" on Castle Street, so it's not even business news in realtion to the city.

so to summarise.....

Not news of interest to the city of Edinburgh in general
Nowt to do with Hearts
Nowt to do with football in the city in general

& this qualifies as the lead story in the EEN?

No wonder I no longer buy a copy and just read it online...

Utter trash....
36

makesmehappy,

11/08/2009 13:05:51
As others have pointed out, any bank that makes a profit in today's climate is doing very well indeed.

Incredibly negative story from the EN - again. They really don't like VR do they?
37

The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

11/08/2009 13:09:58
A bank in which Vlad has an interest makes a profit.
Well. That's nice to know.

Perhaps for tomorrows front page the EEN can give us a run down on how well Sir Tom Farmer's investments have been performing recently?
38

fozwell crumble,

11/08/2009 13:22:50
Pointless story and pointless headline completely missing the actual facts.
Going back in history,previous Evening News headlines may have been as follows

" America dissapointed as Armstrong only takes small step on moon walk"
"Titanic almost makes it to New York on maiden voyage"
"Mandella freed only to return to overdue council tax bill"
"Berlin wall vandalised as germany unites"
"The war has ended..Britain now faces gas-mask overstock"
39

hibbyspurs,

11/08/2009 13:23:28
#37

I can think of at least one that's been doing him pretty well :-(
40

Wee Dennis,

Haymarket 11/08/2009 13:25:30
#33+34 Thanks for your intellectual contribution to the debate. From your responses I will assume you either havent got a clue or are members of the Gorgie church of denial.
41

ssormij,

saudi 11/08/2009 13:29:14

The reporting in this newspaper is now akin to that of the Strathearn Herald
42

busbyfh,

11/08/2009 13:30:41
# 39

Aye....One that's been making him a decent profit over the last wee while....profit that is not being ploughed back into the team which I am partially surprised at. I backed FFFHibs big style last season to finish the league campaign in a decent position via a spread. This year they are one of four that I have handicapped as to NOT wager on. Surely farmer/Petrie could have allowed you lot one....just one, half decent signing.
43

bertiblunt,

11/08/2009 13:42:34
Nothing to see folks HOMOFC are in safe hands
44

104 years in a row!!,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 13:43:18
43 SMALL?? PETITE?? MICRO??
45

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 11/08/2009 13:46:29
1.1 Mil profit.
Enough said.
EEN you really are a disgrace and an embarrasment to Scotland with your pathetic efforts at a headline.
Please get a grip and sack these clowns you employ as reporters.

As usual sensible comments from Hibbyspurs,the rest of the hoobs brigade please grow up and enjoy watching the JT'S in Europe.

MON THE JT'S

Jesus the saviour of Scottish football

the suit must stay ON
46

Blondie,

11/08/2009 13:47:32
#43 Nice to see the standard of spelling and grammar is as high as ever with you lot!
Tick tock, tick tock - is that all you can say!
47

jamtart,

Beechboro Western Australia 11/08/2009 13:50:32
#47

Agree 100%

MON THE JT'S
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Roy of the rovers,

Barrow-in-Furness 11/08/2009 14:03:21
#10 -- Dear namesake--This might come back and bite you on the bum.
49

Sedov,

11/08/2009 14:08:29
The words on the headlines - "wiped out" - mean that the subject matter is no more, dead, gone, zilch.

And yet it is reported underneath that the bank actually made a profit!

What is the EEN on about? This is reporting at gutter level.
50

Newcastle Jambo,

11/08/2009 14:13:32
I couldn't care less about a dodgy Lituanian bank either. Hearts are NOT Vladamir Romanov.

The only concern will be if they are no longer able to cover Hearts astonishing £30m overdraft, wracked up by £10m since Romanov took over despite the sales of Gordon, Bednar, Skacel, Hartley and others for a total of about £14m, season ticket sales of over 11,000 every season, Murryfield UEFA gates and the friendly against Barca of over 50,000 etc etc.
51

Sauzees Slipper,

11/08/2009 14:17:52
Surely any company whos profit has dropped by 91 per cent is pretty likely to have articles written about them in the press, especially as it was trying to open an Edinburgh branch,so it seems pretty relevant to have such an article written in the Evening News.

Why are you Jambos so paranoid? Obviously you guys aint too comfortable with your current financial plight and stories such as these must hit a raw nerve.
52

I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 14:22:38
I find it quite mindboggling that this paper continues, day after day, to go out of it's way to alienate more than half of it's readership. It's almost as if they want this to be the case.

Anyhoo, chug away hibs supporters - you continue to dream of another club's failures, we'll continue to dream of our club's success. It's what makes us better than you, after all.
53

bowyer,

11/08/2009 14:24:48
tick
54

bowyer,

11/08/2009 14:25:00
tock
55

bowyer,

11/08/2009 14:26:00
53.... yip you DREAM off success. and i don't dream off hearts failures... it's in black and white!!

ya bunch of phannyssssssssssssssss
56

I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 14:30:35
# 56 - Any chance of that in the Queen's English m'boy, or is that well above your tiny cranial capacity?

Please don't take the above sentence as a provocation to punch me in the back of the head, kick my female acquaintances, and rampage through my local retail park whilst singing sectarian songs by the way, the hibernian way as it may be.
57

Boo81,

11/08/2009 14:31:58
Ha ha ha! Glad you dont dream off hearts failure! Sorry, who is the phannny?
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Sauzees Slipper,

11/08/2009 14:40:09
#57

Having been to Bolton, I'd like to state that there was no sectarian singing coming from Hibs supporters, the only stuff flying about was England vs Scotland stuff..
Also think you will find that the other stuff your comments refer to were only printed by the local Bolton news, which would probably make it more than a tad biased and certainly over hyped and sensationalised.
59

I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 14:47:47
# 59 - Local press publishing something more than a tad biased, certainly over hyped and sensationalised?

Surely not?
60

Jambo-ree,

11/08/2009 15:26:42
An article that self-destructs part way through. Dearie, dearie me.

At least we were spared the "Hearts, who failed their players on time on two occasions last year.....". Come Mr Blackley, you missed a trick there.

As other have already pointed out, and it's worth repeating, "If anything, it is actually quite commendable for a company like that to make any sort of profit." THAT'S the real story.
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Whats the script?,

Wheatfield G 11/08/2009 15:40:28
#35 Is this the front page article?!!!! F**k sake, almost spat oot ma tea.
And as for the HMR&C sh*t Hearts have a payment plan and they are adhering to it and the headline on Saturday was "Hearts off the hook as tax bill is paid"
The sooner this paper folds the better. Anyone fancy starting up an Edinburgh based quality daily?
62

Des' Dad,

11/08/2009 15:49:00
Stopped buying the EEN a couple of months ago because of its obvious anti-Hearts agenda and this story just confirms how right I was. An utter disgrace of a "rag".
63

Tynie,

Robbo's Bar 11/08/2009 15:59:19
Dood and Hibbyspurs - why are you on this thread?

Oh - that's right

Hearts fans posing as Hibs fans sympathetic to Hearts

Whatever floats yer boat guys - but why all the intrigue. Wots wrong with just posting as a genuine Jambo?
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

11/08/2009 16:03:50
#64... or Hibs fans with a fully functioning brain that are able to see through the nonsense EEN reporting to the (lack of) story beneath?

There are a few Hibs fans that are normal people you know.
65

LVT,

11/08/2009 16:24:11
The main source of profit for the bank appears to be Hearts massive interest payments!

How's the new stand coming along? And the hotel?
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macdiarmid,

11/08/2009 17:04:03
The cupboard is bare - says it all really. Don't know why so many are trying to link this story to the businesses run by Hibs and Tom Farmer. I see nothing in this article mentioning either however a nerve seems to have been struck with a number of Hearts posters on here who have gone off at a tangent.To those posters I would say if you are adamant that this does not effect Hearts why bother posting? A number of you seem to be in the know when it comes to Hearts internal finances and "deals" with the taxman so if all is well what is your problem.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

11/08/2009 17:08:56
#67 In what way does this article show that "the cupboard is bare"?

If you read most of the posts, you'd see that folk are annoyed at yet another story of irrelevant sniping at Hearts from the good people at EEN. Ukio Bankas is one of Vlads investments, and it's doing OK for a bank.
This story has been hyped beyond all recognition, and thrown onto the front page to try and sensationalise a very, very, dull story.
We're posting to make that point. Simple as that really. Another boring finance related story vaguely related to Hearts, it leads nowhere, proves nothing, but gets a lot of morons all het up.
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Tynie,

Robbo's Bar 11/08/2009 17:09:32
#65 Who's talking about Hibs fans? Not Me?

I'm just confused as to why any sane Hearts man would disguise his self as a Hobo
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

11/08/2009 17:19:02
#69 I was merely suggesting that, just because someone is on here being positive about Hearts, it doesn't necessarily make him a Hearts fan.
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jdships,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 17:19:31
63 Des' Dad,

Notice you are still reading it as a "freebie" - cheapscate !!
Lot of "raw nerves" been touched down Gorgie way !!!!!!!
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I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 17:37:27
#67 & 71 - I do enjoy it when the hard of thinking try to substantiate any old load of nonsense by stating that anyone upset by it has had a "raw nerve" touched.

I assume by the same token any hibs fans upset by comments about a certain Moroccan at their club enjoying the company of under-age females have had a "raw nerve" touched, and therefore it is true?

Is that how it works?
72

what a chancer,

fom a hook to a draw 11/08/2009 17:45:26
i wonder which company director of a football team will be next on the journos hit list,murray i guess and thats is far as it will go.
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The Hon. Liam Fairtod,

11/08/2009 17:51:57
To go off on a complete tangent (i.e. something directly related to Heart of Midlothian Football Club). I would just like to say that I am particularly enjoying the sly look on Ian Blacks face here:
http://www.heartsfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/HeartsNewsDetail/0,,10289~1750504,00.html
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macdiarmid,

11/08/2009 19:13:02
#72 - At least try and get your retort factually correct. I do not see what relevance your comment re the Moroccan has to this article especially as nothing has been unlawful.The suggestion here is surely that if things are getting a bit tight in Romanov's businesses or business interests then it could have a knock on effect on other interests, including investment in Hearts. I think the signs are already there as Vlads aspirations for Hearts seem to have become more diluted from those originally reported. Repeat this has nothing to do with Hibs so why try and introduce a Hibs angle to the story. Are you concerned/worried about the direction Hearts appear to be going?
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John H,

edinburgh 11/08/2009 19:25:40
Does it really matter what the Hearts fans think.
Vlad will do what he wants do do, when he wants to do it and when financially gainful to do it.
He is not there because he is a Hearts supporter. It would be questionable if he even has an interest in Scottish football in general other than the fact he picked up the so called big club by paying their interest.
There are none as blind as those who cannot see and my word there are plenty on this thread.
In all honesty would many business people even consider dealings with UKIO what ever it is. I personally would not give them the time of day because time is running out for this absentee landlord.
76

gorgiegoalmachine,

11/08/2009 19:27:28
more skullduggery by the vermin, the hearts going into administration thing is getting really boring now, you have been trying this one for 2 years now, let it go loooozers, saying that we all know that hearts not being around is the only way that hibs would ever become the big team in auld reekie, yer fans are all junkies, Taliban, and polish immigrants, yer a disgrace to scotland.
77

Edinburgh's Big Team,

EH11 11/08/2009 20:03:15
New depths for a now comic book rag with the same anti-vlad agenda as their weegie red top equivalents.

John H - more conjecture, no basis, no facts....as usual
78

Roy of the Rovers,

11/08/2009 20:08:42
Had a look into Zagreb site,
they are preparing for the next again round,

tynie for a good laugh.
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Roy of the Rovers,

11/08/2009 20:10:01
#77 - #77

I am on the floor giggling at your handle.
hee hee hee hee, when did hearts last have a goal machine,
??????????
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Roy of the Rovers,

11/08/2009 20:11:54
HEE HEE
So the watford - everton - millwall scone is back oot after da'in four munths,,

gorgiegoalmachine
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I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 20:15:48
#75 - I see I touched a raw nerve with you there.

I'm fair getting the hang of this, eh?
82

I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 20:20:13
#79 - That's not true though, is it?
83

ih8hibs,

11/08/2009 20:32:46
79+80 meanwhile you prepare for Brechin. 2005-06 season to be precise
84

Arthur Duncan on the wing,

11/08/2009 20:47:40
tick tock; tick tock
85

blackley,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 21:24:57
I wonder which part of his portfolio he would happily dispense with.
86

groover t,

reekie reekie 11/08/2009 21:25:45
"A bronze plaque was erected at the office in 2007 with the company's name on it and a team of seven members of staff have been working from Castle Street for nearly a year – Without Any Customers." "Seempel" as the wee Russian meerkat from the telly advert says.
87

Boy in maroon,

EDINBURGH 11/08/2009 21:27:21
YAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
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jdships,

Edinburgh 11/08/2009 21:29:58
72I.J, The Diggers

your reply just makes it worse !!
"Raw nerves" are alive and well in Gorgie .

Just to bring you up to speed this article was about Hearts financial problems - remeber ?
89

No pay in Gorgie,

Wellington 11/08/2009 21:39:01
I may be mistaken here, so bear in mind I am 'just asking' before being branded a Hobo etc etc...

but...

Isn't 'Ukio Bankas' still Hearts shirt sponsor? I honestly can't remember if it says Ukio Bankas or UBIG?

Isn't it Ukio Bankas who has incurred Hearts debt?

So, there is no direct link between the bank and Hertz, but there is a link between Romanov and the bank and Romanov and Hertz, so there is still an indirect link. I might be worried if Farmers Autocare went bust! Alas, Ukio is still operating so you lot can rest easy-ish, for now...
90

I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 22:10:59
#89 - No it wasn't and isn't. Where?

Educate me.
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No pay in Gorgie,

Wellington 11/08/2009 22:29:12
#72 I.J,

Can you explain exactly how Zemamma's wife is "underage"? Underage for what exactly? Visiting a bar that is over 21s only perhaps, but not much else.
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John H,

edinburgh 11/08/2009 22:31:32
78 A summarization of the state of play, no less.
No basis. How can that be fact? The figures are there in black and white.
No figures from UBIG that the auditors could use though, fact. Unauthorised accounts that are not signed off by auditors would cause an alarm bell to ring in most businesses but you keep your head in the sand, after all you won the Champion's league last year.
Fans should be worried. Very worried.
93

I.J,

The Diggers 11/08/2009 22:42:58
#92 - Touched a raw nerve there I see.

Am I getting good at this yet, #67 & 71?
94

No pay in Gorgie,

Wellington 11/08/2009 23:05:16
No you've not touched a nerve at all, I simply asked a question. I can see from your inability to answer the question that you don't actually have a reasonable answer.

Case closed.
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Bleeding Heart,

11/08/2009 23:51:37
#9 - I'd say you managed to highlight the two most glaring examples of inconsistency & irrelevance contained in this "article".

I think what this goes to show is that the "article" was written on the back of the proverbial "fag packet".
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jon doe,

12/08/2009 00:56:27
There is a bigger picture in this story

The economic way of dealing with such issues is to clip back release some expenditure to other companies that actualy pay the Service Debt and also the Tax Bills,these said companies become the wealth of lending firms and are very well protected.To have a small company make any profit that aproaches the millions in the current climate can be seen as the recovery of the market place for everyone.

Respect

A Jambo
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jon doe,

12/08/2009 01:03:40
For the Dosile thinkers


A projected profit margin loss is not the same as a loss and debt margin,the projected profit may of been £100M but this was not met and it became £1M in Profit this making it hard for the company to loan any money to the pyramid companies.This is a gain not a loss of a possible £99M although it does take the Lender back to the start where they can begin to find other ways o doubling that profit,it isnt the same as counting losses and then cutting costs closing down arms and legs of the franchise.
98

jon doe,

12/08/2009 01:10:22
Romanov Ubig Ukios all lose money investing in any company including Hearts yet they interpritate the changes for all.

Trend Setters
99

uncle bulgaria,

12/08/2009 03:23:23
#98 "For the Dosile thinkers"

Funny. Very funny. I get it. Clever.
100

jon doe,

12/08/2009 03:52:50
Does anyone want too help me scrounge up £100M and buy out the Romanovs holdings etc of Hearts FC,i am not a hater of them i respect what they have done for Hearts.


Replace Words With Action
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jon doe,

12/08/2009 04:08:51
Hearts fan base is supposed to be around quater of a Million,each fan hands over £1000 and in return is handed the same amount of share value if its successfull handing the club to the support.

This is the way too put up or shut up
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jon doe,

12/08/2009 04:11:21
Who is truely willing to Lose £1000 if only to prove a point if in fact they buy the voice.
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jon doe,

12/08/2009 07:35:46
28
Wayne Wayne SUPER Wayne,
Edinburgh 11/08/2009 12:43:16


I been waiting for someone bringing this up well said'
104

hibsfan,

oxfordshire 12/08/2009 11:14:09
gents,
I for one can remember the early 90's when we nearly folded and I can remember the Hands Of Hibs Campaign were there was a lot of Hearts Fans at Easter Road. I swore then that I would do anything in my power to save any other club if God would only Save Hibs.
I cannot speak for any other fan of any club, but as God be my witness (As much as I hate Hearts with a passion) I will Honour that promise.
I know this will upset a lot of Hibs Fans but if your old enough to remember those days in the early 90's then you'll know what it feels like.
I only hope and pray that Hearts do not go to the wall as this will mean I never have to help, but If they do need my help then so be it..................
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Bleeding Heart,

12/08/2009 19:51:28
#105 - "(As much as I hate Hearts with a passion)".

That's a tad pathetic, wouldn't you say?

Just how old are you?

It's venomous attitudes like that that will make some people wish Mercer had succeeded...

 

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