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Letter from the Heart delivered to Romanov



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Published Date: 28 April 2008
DEAR Vlad, it's been a while since we last spoke face to face, but I suppose that would be a fairly uncomfortable event given how we parted at Tynecastle.
You remember, don't you? Hearts were riding high until you sacked first the manager George Burley – now the Scotland boss – on a whim. Then the highly regarded Phil Anderton. He didn't want for a job long either, by the way. In fact, he now works for
the ATP, one of the world's biggest sports bodies. I told you then such moves were folly and hoped I could reign in your more outrageous musings. Sadly, I was wrong, and had no option but to resign my post.

It hurt then, and hurts even now. You see I love Hearts, truly adore them. And it pains me to see how you are putting all connected with it through the wringer. Of course we might have had a chance to discuss issues over the odd drink in the Director's Box if I chose to attend as is my privilege as a former club chairman. But we both know that you made it clear, albeit through third parties, that I am no longer welcome.

Which is fine, because I retained my season ticket, and sit among my fellow supporters directly opposite you in the Wheatfield Stand.

However I sometimes think I should exercise that courtesy if only to meet you and Junior in a corner, bang your heads together, and ask just what you are playing at. Because that's what all the fans want to know. It is why your commercial team has been reduced to ringing round existing season ticket holders asking why they haven't renewed.

It's not rocket science, Vlad, really. It's because of your broken promises of giving them a team to be proud of, having work start on the stand, delivering winners.

Now it would be great to sit down and chat to you about all of this and I'd hope to after you said you'd be at all the final games of this season. Admittedly my eyesight isn't what it once was, but I've seen very little sign of you. Then, I'm not alone. Very few people have clapped eyes on you this season.

Of course it may be that you actually do believe you can achieve all you planned. And I think the majority of the maroon faithful would back you if that was the case. But they – and I – need to see some evidence. We need to know that you aren't just full of hot air, but have the substance to match your irreverent style.

I mean, are you not embarrassed, even a little? Your team finished below Hibs, a side that will no doubt achieve zero debt by summer. Do you find that in any way acceptable? That a far superior sporting organisation as Hearts with a more loyal fanbase and greater potential, slides below a team that hasn't won a Scottish Cup in over a century?

And let me come back to our spat over George Burley. He was a potentially great manager, the fact he now leads the hopes and aspirations of the Scottish nation vindicates my belief in that. You experimented with a couple of alternatives, which failed to work out.

Stevie Frail has tried his best, yet the poor lad doesn't even have his coaching badge yet. Now look at Rangers. They aren't a good side, they have ridden their luck all season and faced a stuttering Celtic team riddled with problems. But they have consistency and ground out results, lifting the Scottish League Cup, on the cusp of winning the SPL, in the final of the Scottish Cup.

And now just 90 minutes away from a UEFA Cup final. They have done this after giving a poor, under-performing former manager the bullet, and instead brought in an experienced man in Walter Smith who lives and breathes the SPL.

He hasn't even had a decent transfer budget to work with and yet, by being allowed to do his job, is within touching distance of an unprecedented quadruple.

Doesn't that tell you something, comrade? Doesn't it give you a hint as to what must now be done at Hearts. And what we could have had?

Get in the manager we need, let them do their job, and watch the season ticket sales go through the roof. Show leadership, show conviction. Show some guts.

Heal the club and heal your relationship with the fans, so we can raise a glass in tribute to your leadership, rather than drowning our sorrows whenever Saturday comes. But whatever you do, do it now, I implore you. Otherwise it may be too little, too late.

Yours in sport,
GEORGE

Basso exit is a No.1 mistake
I COULDN'T help but shake my head on hearing that orders had come from on high to axe Anthony Basso from goal.

His crime? Refusing to sign a new contract after he was advised it wasn't good enough.

Stevie Frail admitted the keeper wasn't playing as a direct consequence.

And if that isn't Vlad interfering in team affairs, then please explain to me what is.

I accept those running the club have reservations about agents and, in some cases, perhaps deservedly so.

But they shouldn't all be treated like pariahs, should they?

Take Dave McPherson and Gary Mackay for instance, the latter helping advance the career of goal-a-game Gary Glen.

Friends of the club.

Players, especially young players, have a right to be protected by their agents.

But why will new blood want to come to the club if they feel a gun will be put to their head anytime they ask for better?

Something, perhaps, for the Romanovs to ponder as the close season approaches and they wonder where all the goalkeepers have gone.









The full article contains 982 words and appears in Edinburgh Evening News newspaper.
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28/04/2008 11:52:34
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Conran,

Husref Musemic's twin brother 28/04/2008 11:53:20
George makes a good point that I have said myself. Why would any player want to come to a club where they will be dropped for refusing to sign a contract when they have over a year left to run?

Of course, the same could be said about a manager not getting to pick his own plyers (or, as suggested, back room staff). Hardly appealing is it?

Foulkes implores Vlad to do something now or it may be too little too late. Sorry George, I fear your heartfelt letter may also be too little too late.
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Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 28/04/2008 11:53:34
Let it go Foulkes, if only for the sake of your own sanity!
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Tynietiger,

28/04/2008 11:54:02
His London abode also appears to be the business address for his work as a director and political consultant with Carrick Court Associates, which makes £50,000 per year.
The claims will put further pressure on Westminster to reform its expenses system, and come after Holyrood has been dogged by revelations over MSPs claiming public money for staying in properties linked to relatives.
Foulkes has been a staunch defender of the expenses regime at Holyrood and Westminster, despite a stream of stories about extravagant claims. He described criticisms of the Edinburgh Accommodation Allowance, which allows MSPs to charge the public for their mortgage payments, as "misguided and mischievous".
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TheMoth,

Petrie's wallet 28/04/2008 11:57:12
Right, before everyone comes on here and starts lambasting dode, i want to say something.

This may seem like bolting the stable door once the horse has bolted but would you rather he didn't raise these concerns now because he was instrumental in the Vlad apointment... Would that make things any better?

No, whatever else he has done he did step down on principle and he is using his position as a recognised personality to get our concerns printed in an article rather than just our gripes on a moron infested thread (Looking at you Riley) that dosen't make the hard printed copy.

Loved this quote though...

"I mean, are you not embarrassed, even a little? Your team finished below Hibs, a side that will no doubt achieve zero debt by summer. Do you find that in any way acceptable? That a far superior sporting organisation as Hearts with a more loyal fanbase and greater potential, slides below a team that hasn't won a Scottish Cup in over a century?"

Snigger....
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Mal,

Kent 28/04/2008 12:09:18
I find it irritating when Hibs related articles start going on about problems at Hearts. The stupid petty digs in this piece at Hibs are equally out of place. All they do is detract from the main point.

Also, if Foulkes wants the best for Hearts he should choose his battles with Romanov, e.g. the need for a manager. But if as reported Basso is on £7k/week then it is clear Hearts need to get rid of him.
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Tynietiger,

28/04/2008 12:13:38
We are stuck with Romanov unless some mega millionaire comes along. How about it George?

What with £45,000 claimed from taxpayer for staying in a house you already own. See yesterday's Sunday Herald

http://www.sundayherald.com/news/
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28/04/2008 12:14:26
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Tynietiger,

28/04/2008 12:18:44
Lenny you also get your comment removed if you mention George's expenses scandal which was reported in yesterday's Sunday Herald but not in any Scotsman publication.
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no fan of the sfa,

28/04/2008 12:19:35
RE: Tynietiger

Folkes has had his hand in the public purse for so long he can no longer differentiate between right and wrong. While slightly off the football topic you are absolutly correct to highlight what this guy has been up to.

Lets face it folkes quite westmister when he thought the gravey train was up and went to holyrood for no other reason than to increase his personal wealth. He has served the public in the same manner he served the hearts support. The guy should be ashamed yet here he is week in/ week out giving us the benefit of his opinions and getting paid for it. Lets hope its declared eh george?

I've said many times that he is the root cause for hearts ills with his pursuit of romanov. He refused to speak to anyone else who was interested at the time.

I'm suprised he has the brass neck to still go to games!
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Lenny,

28/04/2008 12:24:37
Tynietiger

Yes I noticed that. Where is the freedom of speech? Treating us like old-firm fans!!

Anyway, regarding this complete joke of an article, is Foulkes even on this planet? Does he think that his petty little digs at Hibs will make the Hearts fans forget that he is chiefly responsible for Romanov being at the club in the first place. Embarassing!!
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Lion-O "Lord Of The ThunderCats,

28/04/2008 12:32:41
Washing dirty linen in public - oh dear.

I know that all politicians love the limelight, but would people expect an ex Rangers or Celtic chairman to allow this to be published in a national newspaper?

If Mr Foulkes had serious intentions then surely a private meeting might have been more advisable rather than this?
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GrahamL,

28/04/2008 12:34:27
"That a far superior sporting organisation as Hearts with a more loyal fanbase and greater potential, slides below a team that hasn't won a Scottish Cup in over a century"
What the hell is that? Some attempt to prove he's a real fan by acting as childish and petty as the rest of us?? Grow up George.

And please, stop trying to pass the buck. We get it now. You didn't know what Vlad was going to do to the club when you got him in. We understand. That doesn't absolve you of responsibility, it seems a bit of research into his past would have given a clue though. FFS, the Hibees round here have managed to dig up a fair amount of dirt on him. I would have thought you could have found something. But still. We are where we are.
As a relatively high profile Hearts fan, questioning Romanov is the right thing for you to do. You say you are in a unique position where you can go and see him face to face, but haven't incase it's awkward? Grow a spine man. It's easier to sit in front of your computer eulogising on the right thing to do (trust me, I know whereof I speak!!). It's much harder to stand in front of the man and ask him these questions, but ultimately, we need to know what Vlad has in store for us. If you're not the man to help, then kindly shush, and let someone else do the job you're too scared to.
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Jubilee,

Polwarth 28/04/2008 12:44:55
Vlad's reply in no more than 6 words...

I'm sorry, have we met?
Vlad

or

Dear George
**** Off!
Love, Vlad

Still, what else can a trumpet do other than make loud noises?
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I.J,

The Diggers 28/04/2008 12:47:14
There was really no need for Foulkes to add in the word "debt" in the 10th paragraph. It read perfectly well without it.
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Chas Niceass,

28/04/2008 12:59:24
George. No, no, no, NO! And no to the bottom bit about Basso as well, if he's on 7k a week, theres something wrong with the world.
This is not going to achieve a single thing, but sniggers from the boardroom.

Anyhow George, have you not noticed Hearts are the only team in the SPL unbeaten since March. Yes we are you know, 27 pts from the last 13 games and with 8 clean sheets.

Doesnt feel like it though eh? How bad was the first half of the season exactly, monumentally bad, one small criticism of the much maligned Frail, what he's done wrong with that record I'm not sure but seeing this boy day in day out (Glen) they should have gambled on him when Velicka left.
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Keebo,

28/04/2008 13:01:03
I notice that there is no apology from Mr F for actually being part of the group which brought Vlad to the club in the first place.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 28/04/2008 13:14:25
Folkes is typical of the Labour buffoons running this Country.

The sooner David Cameron is in charge the better.

Folkes was all over the Russian dictator Romanov when he first came on the scene.

Its all his fault Hearts are going down the pan!
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busbyfh,

28/04/2008 13:25:35
A lot of what GF write is plainly on the button - but the style of the "open letter" is totally cringing.
Seek Vlad out George - Confront him for Foulkes sake.

I'll wager that the vast majority of the fans there on Saturday will renew their tickets no matter what - all the people round me (with their similar type comments) just shrug their shoulders and say things like "that's just the way it is - what else would you do on a Saturday".
Vlad is never going to get the message I'm afraid - Looks like most folk have had the life squeezed out of them.
I include myself as I sit there like a taylors dummy and cannot even be bothered to moan when daft things are done.Even Basso getting 7k a week can no longer get a spark out of me...................like F*** it can't - Basso ain't worth half that - Who was stupid enough to sign him on that kind of contract - As if I did not know.
I'm not even going to type "No manager - no season tickets" - We know the Stevie Frail thing is a done deal.Mind you if results alone spoke.............
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Reichstag Hibby,

Berlin 28/04/2008 13:28:01
Got to take my hat of to the toady one. How he still has the balls to sit amonst the faithful is truly inspiring.

As for his dig at Hibs, well that just shows how much class Hearts have on the board past and present.
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BerwickHibby,

Top six 28/04/2008 13:30:00
" are you not embarrassed, even a little? Your team finished below Hibs, a side that will no doubt achieve zero debt by summer. Do you find that in any way acceptable? That a far superior sporting organisation as Hearts with a more loyal fanbase and greater potential, slides below a team that hasn't won a Scottish Cup in over a century"

That quote proves what a clown of a man Foulkes is. Instead of having a sly dig at your neighbours, why are you not out trying to organise a consortium trying to save your club? No you prefer to air you opion in a public newspaper and get paid for said opinion.

The sooner that Clubs like HMFC and Gretna are wound up the sooner the SPL may regain some respect rather that the laughing stock it has become.
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scorchio,

West of the Pecos 28/04/2008 13:38:26
Dear George, All you needed to say to Mr Romanov was this...If you don't appoint a new manager the erse will fall out of the master plan.
The "letter" itself could've been written by Bathgate, it contains simmilar snidey comments, found in his articles.
Again, no mention of the good Romanov has done, not a mention that teams outwith the O.F. get some reall dodgy decisions against them.
No, just some irrelivant mention of Hibs failure to win the Scottish Cup.
As mentioned above..get over it Goerge, you ain't a big fish any more.
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 28/04/2008 13:39:25
#25 BH

For sure, Gretna & Hearts have played no small part in reducing the SPL to a farse this season.

Like the Romanovs, the clowns running the SPL should also be run out of town.




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SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

28/04/2008 13:43:18
Dear Lord Zebedee of Glenfiddich,

You are way out of line with your petty dig at the Hibs, why not have a swipe at Dundee United, Aberdeen, Motherwell and Falkirk while you are at it. They were all above you at the split. Bragging about your "far superior sporting organisation" myth just helps to erode any support from other teams that may be out there.

A growing few hobos like myself do not like to watch the disrespectful treatment of fans by rich owners, even if those fans are Jambos. Then along comes the unacceptable face of Gorgie with his ill advised comments and you think "stuff you ya arrogant,sponging auld drunk, you have learnt nothing from the last few years."

If Vlad runs your club into the ground then so be it, us "far inferior sporting organisations" will just sit back and watch.

George Foulkes. Vote loser extrordinaire.

SAME RULES APPLY !!!


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28/04/2008 13:46:35
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28/04/2008 13:53:43
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hibbie,

Edinburgh 28/04/2008 13:56:41
Oh you sad little fat obnoxious Jambo, you made complete erse of yourself pushing the Romanovs at the Hearts shreholders amd supporters and now you try to intigrate yourself back in with the supporters, what a pr1ck of the first order you are, crawl back to the boulder you squirmed out of you fat slug, and your crass comments about Hibs did you no favours whatsoever, creep, worm, rat all of these and more apply to you Mr F**kup.
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Tynietiger,

28/04/2008 14:35:02
Lord Foulkes, a former Labour MP, divides his time between the House of Lords and Holyrood, where he is a Lothians MSP. He was ennobled in 2005.Figures show he claimed £18,623 in "overnight subsistence" in his first year in the Lords and £26,105 in the last financial year. Peers can claim £165.50 tax-free for every night they spend in London on Lords' business.
The Sunday Herald can reveal Foulkes racked up nearly £45,000 in overnight costs for staying in a London flat he inherited from his late mother.
"Netta" Foulkes bought the Lambeth property in 1980, months after her son was elected to Westminster. Property records show he acquired the flat months after her death in 1999, and took a mortgage out on it four years later.
He went on to claw back around £45,000 in "overnight subsistence" for staying in the flat while on Lords' duty, claims that coincided with a flurry of activity in the property market. In 2005, he sold one Edinburgh property and bought another in the capital for £305,000 , without a mortgage. He sold his home in Ayrshire for £600,000 - a deal that made him a £400,000 profit - and bought a cottage in Maybole for £280,000, again without a loan.
His London abode also appears to be the business address for his work as a director and political consultant with Carrick Court Associates, which makes £50,000 per year.
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Lenny,

28/04/2008 14:46:52
# 32

How strange that the Scotsman never ran with this story dont you think...
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Andy1,

28/04/2008 14:47:01
Why bring hibs into this little spat?

Lacking in any class whatsover, that's okay for fans but not for a former official.

Poor stuff, it's that sort of attitude though, trying to prove how big a team you are that got you into this mess and looks like making sure you don't get out of it.

It's things like this that will make the rest of us have a good laugh if the end did actually come.
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Fergal,

28/04/2008 14:59:30
Yes it was you Fatty and Steve (jump ship) Cardownie who got him there in the first place.

Now its all gone t1ts up you try and ingratiate yourself with hearts fans by having a sly dig at Hibs?

Jelly Fish.
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Tynietiger,

28/04/2008 15:10:15
Lenny

Foulkes also has a political and parliamentary consultancy with Eversheds LLP. Payment of £3000 per calendar month (excluding VAT if applicable) for consultancy services for 36 days per annum (all fees are paid to Carrick Court Associates Ltd - PLUS

Chairman of Editorial Board of Govnet (a client of his company Carrick Court Associates), £10,000 per annum
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Lenny,

28/04/2008 15:14:49
# 36 Tynietiger

Its quite incredible to think anyone would pay this guy to consult on anything!!

With the size of his ego you just know that Foulkes will be reading these comments. He is probably sitting with a half empty bottle of buckfast in front of his pc right now!
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Royalty,

Zandvoort 28/04/2008 15:33:34
So the Hearts fans who did not renew thier season tickets are receiving unsolicited calls from the HMFC Commercial Dept asking why not?

Just how low can this club go?

At least Mr Foulkes has brough this out into the open & fair play to him.

He could just sit back & watch his club slowly curl up & die.

One thing about George Foulkes, he clearly is a Hearts fan.


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Newcastle Jambo,

28/04/2008 16:21:46
Right, I will disagree with the majority of view on here (as usual). I admire the stance that Foulikes has taken very publicly for some time and I agree with every word he writes here. You can moan about MPs expenses all you like but in a football context Foulkes got involved in running Hearts for no fee or salary, got Robinson out and brought in Romanov for all the right reasons.

It quickly turned into an unmitaged disaster for the club that we all love but as Foulkes has been unjustly barred from the boardroom why shouldn't he get his message across in a public way designed to deliberately embarass Romanov. Romanov is a huge embarassment to me as a Hearts fan and what goes around comes around.

So, well said George and keep up the pressure!
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Celtic Bhoy,

Carlisle 28/04/2008 16:42:07
Mr Foulkes your argument would have received much more sympathy excepting your pathetic attempted derision of Hibs.
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Newcastle Jambo,

28/04/2008 16:51:29
#40 I think he was trying to be funny at that point. Admittedly, he failed.
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random stranger,

28/04/2008 18:15:31
Mr Foulkes, i have just read your aricicle in the paper and it's disgusting the way you try to use hibs as a form of bargaining tool with vlad!
Everyone is entitled to their opinion however, but i think the fact that it is a club with no debt ( remeber this only happened once they had come so close to extinction) should be looked upon as an achievement since it may well be The blueprint that hearts need to follow once vlad leaves!!
I ask all hearts fans to start looking at this man, and realising that he had as big a part to play in the downfall of this once great club as anyone.
after all if a club no longer exists it becomes very difficult to win any cups!!!
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newyearsday73 ,

albion road 28/04/2008 18:19:28
good old Dode,when things arent going well for him(sunday herald expenses article)he just has a dig at the Hibs.how pathetic and predictable!
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First Minister,

Tynecastle (holding my nose) 28/04/2008 19:01:41
It's ok folks, he is just trying to wind us Hibees up to deflect attention from his own failings, and he is doing it deliberately!!
my name is Paul Stewart , Lord Foulkes, i am not ashamed to put my name up.
What have you done to help fight poverty George?

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ninenro,

28/04/2008 19:19:15
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That is coming from one of the eternal MOPES !!!
Confirmation and I don`t mean the wearing of party frocks that they truly are the Most Offended People Ever !!!
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Wish I could gie it up,

Wheatfield 28/04/2008 19:51:20
Couldn't agree more with Newcastle Jambo. Foulkes' heart is in the right place when it comes to HMFC. Easy to knock GF but there was no one putting up the cash to get Robinson out. We're stuck with Vlad and all we can do is try to make him realise just how good it could all be again with the right manager and Vlad's support. Re Frail for the job, give me a break. As well as being tactically naive, how can he command any respect from the players or fans? Good guy, decent coach, NEVER a manager.
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Woody47,

28/04/2008 20:28:34
Dear Mr Foulkes, who do you think you are with your comments such as "far superior sporting organisation". What makes you think you are so superior. There is not such a huge gap between both Edinburgh sides so please get down of your high horse before you look like a very bitter old man. If you have a problem with the owner, you have it out with him WITHOUT having to resort to petty name calling and bringing in a team that has nothing to do with the embarassment that is going on in Gorgie.
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Mister T,

Edinburgh 28/04/2008 20:52:18
In the words of the M*a*s*h theme
"suicide is painless,
it brings on many changes
and I can take or leave it if I please"

So the man that dealt the blow claiming Vlad was the answer was a Jambo. But this was the option taken.
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Novafone,

Edinburgh 28/04/2008 20:58:18
George, what a waste of time. What you should have written:

Dear Vlad,

Thanks for nothing.

From,

Hearts supporters everywhere
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Fit o' the walk Jambo,

28/04/2008 21:14:52
#43 No wonder he has digs at weeteamers.Your name goes back to a derby victory in 1973?? Were you even born or are you really just showing your weeteam's lack of footballing achievements hence having to go all the way back to it?? I don't see any Hearts fans names derising the weeteam on here to which there are far far more in Hearts' favour.
Just shows up the wee mentality and defiance of your wee club which has had very little to shout about for a very long time. Hobos really are a sad pathetic excuse for footballing fans,even for a weeteam!!
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SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

28/04/2008 21:48:31
#50

"defiance of your wee club"

If you big team supporters showed some defiance you might not be in this mess. Just keep giving Vlad your money, tap yer forelock, "believe" and it will all come good I'm sure. You are a right spineless lot at times.

SAME RULES APPLY !!!
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Strollon,

28/04/2008 22:20:55
What an embarrassment. No more than a desperate begging letter and a dig at Hibs to get the fans onside and deflect from the fact that he is responsible for the position they are in. What have Hibs got to do with the state Hearts are in? Is that not a 'wee team' mentality judging yourselves against them? Oh dear.
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THE BPRENTICE,

28/04/2008 22:31:18
I'm not sure George isn't letting himself get over-exposed by writing so many articles....hamster on a treadmill comes to mind.

Keep your powder dry and your hond on yer hapenny George...Hearts FC may very well need you in the near future if the fans' patience truly runs out with Vlad.

BTW George - I'm a loyal Hearts supporter - but I still found you digs at Hibs over the top. I don't like bad losers - in my opinion, they should never have taken part in the first place if they can't handle defeat. Okay, comparing hmfc to hfc regarding the levels of funding/debt etc is valid when it comes to expectations - but there was no need for the over a century remark...leave that to the forums where poking each other with pointy sticks is part of the fun.

In fact, I hope hibs get the European spot - I wouldn't mind Motherwell getting it after the decent season they've had and the Phil O'Donnell death...but I still remember Well beating us on the last day of the season...Killie went up to the Premier League and we didn't thanks to a 1-0 defeat: the Well fans with their 'Hay must stay' banners were having a field day. I suppose I sound like the bad loser now?

Mind you...all the tick tock brigade and the 'you better sell Tynie before its too late' hobo-consultants...are enough to make you want Dundee Utd to grab a bit of european fitba...big Craig deserves that for turning the squad around.
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THE BPRENTICE,

28/04/2008 22:32:15
...Ih I nearly forgot...


Yours in sport,
Bobby
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jon doe,

29/04/2008 01:52:37
Is this a joke
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uncle bulgaria,

29/04/2008 05:44:11
George Foulkes is clearly a publicity hungry idiot.

Does he reckon Hearts fans wont see through his "Im just one of you" crap?

While Romanov is beyond comprehension, Foulkes just lacks class.

Yes I am a Hibs fan.
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Joak,

TIMBUCK TOO 29/04/2008 07:30:48
Lordy, Lordy, "a letter from the heart" ye've goat tae be kiddin', it's a' pub talk....wid somebody buy him a drink and shut him up...rid-ick-ul-ous.....old f*rty Foulkes away hame wi' ye!!
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Bleeding Heart...,

29/04/2008 08:13:34
Let's cut a swathe through the sub-plots running here.

Firstly, the dig at Hibs. A stupid attempt at populism. Unfortunately for Foulkes, most Hearts fans on here consider themselves above such talk and rightly condemn this part of the article.

Secondly, all the innuendo about Foulkes' financial situation and other personal details. In my view irrelevant to the main issue in the article.

What is that main issue? Foulkes says "Get in the manager we need, let them do their job, and watch the season ticket sales go through the roof. Show leadership, show conviction. Show some guts".

Surely we can all agree that a new, high-calibre, manager at Tynecastle is imperative?

But we also need to open an ongoing dialogue with Romanov. One shambolic AGM per year, where sensible questions are given fudged replies, where questioners are patronised or ridiculed, is unacceptable.

The fans need serious answers ona range of serious issues. Perhaps George Foulkes should now be channelling his energies into helping form a fans' organisation that will directly confront Romanov on his policies and get some answers?


57

Jam Tarts 1874,

On the Rebound 29/04/2008 08:50:52
#53. It's worth remembering that at the end of that 1-0 defeat to Motherwell, Mercer and his family in the stand were subjected to vile abuse from "fans" as well as having scarves chucked at him. There were calls for him to get out etc etc from the usual knee-jerk reactionaries. Sound familiar?

4 seasons later we nearly won the league.
58

Reichstag Hibby,

Berlin 29/04/2008 10:15:09
#50

Good sensible post. But can you understand it's because of comments like Foulkes' that makes even non radical Hibbies look forward to Hearts disappearing around the U-bend?
59

Jambo-ree,

29/04/2008 10:48:55
#60 I agree. In this context the comments were unnecessary. True, but unnecessary.
60

THE BPRENTICE,

29/04/2008 10:55:30
#59 bro, Mercer had a lot more chucked at him than scarves.....I was standing in the middle of the shed and the mood was v ugly: fans fighting among themselves, the police really couldn't handle it...it wasn't the first time that season that policemens' hats were getting chucked high in the air.

Anyway, Mercer hadn't long come on board to help the club out; he obviously thought that he could calm down the fans by coming over to the shed ... BUT, in a sureal moment, someone had thrown a big iron bar at Mercer (it was thrown by someone just behind me) - the iron bar was about 4 feet long - I've no idea where it came from? Bizzare.

But it didn't miss Wallace by much and he was being 'gobbed' at through the fence. I was disgusted at the treatment that some fans gave him that day. You could see the shock on Mercer's face when that happened and he beat a hasty retreat.

Disgusting.

Vile abuse as you say.

I like the quote "4 seasons later we nearly won the league." its that kind of positive thinking that gets you out of a bad patch, IMO.

BUT, the game is even more focused on money now and the power is more with agents and players - hence Hibs deciding to sell before the Riordan factor hits again.

So as long as we have Vlad pulling Frail's strings to tell us that Elliot is a marauder and Velicka was sold off despite the club suffering playing in the lower half of the league after the split..not to mention no chance of european football - I wouldn't hold out much hope, unless a real manager is hired.

There's a lot of talk about Frail's record - the 2 games before the split against Falkirk and Killie were p!ss poor - Frail is not the man (he's be a great second in command, though). We need a proper manager to start challenging for next year's 3rd spot...any thought of actually winning the SPL are at the moment pieman in the sky.
61

Neo,

Edinburgh 29/04/2008 11:22:09
How can you say that Hearts have a far superior sporting organisation and more loyal fan base? I think this is the last throw of the dice from a very desperate man.

Very soon there will be no more Hearts as we know this team. It will be interesting to see what this Noble Lord writes then
Hearts of Midlothian FC 1874-2009 APPRX
62

Jambo-ree,

29/04/2008 11:44:29
#63 It's easy to say. Telling the truth is always easy. It's lying that's difficult. We were, of course, supposed to go out of business in January this year according to the Hobonomic experts on these threads....
63

Hans Eskillson,

Glasgow 29/04/2008 14:07:44
How can the wee team be worth £37 million more than the big team?

It's not even a contest.
64

murphy's law,

29/04/2008 17:07:16
The genial Blair sycophant George Foulkes - Baron Foulkes of Cumnock since Tony elected him a life peer and now one of the henchmen trying to treat Labour's Scottish schizophrenia - was a most promising shadow cabinet minister until he came to suffer "a nasty fall on the slopes of Glenfiddich in July 1993".



At a party held by the Scotch Whisky Association, the defence spokesman at the time, also a magistrate, drank adequately from the fountain of the water of life. One witness described Foulkes's subsequent behaviour as "like Zebedee on acid". The MP trundled back to the Commons for a crunch vote.
Unfortunately, the pavements of Westminster dipped and rose like the deck of a clipper on a choppy sea, tossing him into the arms of pedestrians. An attempt to dance with a 70-year-old lady resulted in them both hugging the asphalt. Foulkes biffed one persistently helpful constable on the chin.
He was arrested and invited to spend the night enjoying Her Majesty's hospitality. He pleaded guilty to assault and being drunk and disorderly, and was fined £1,050. He vowed not to drink whisky again.

65

murphy's law,

29/04/2008 17:08:47
^^^ that's why he got along with George Burley ; )
66

Bleeding Heart...,

29/04/2008 20:32:36
#66 Fascinating narrative - does it have a point?

More specifically, does it possess any relevance to what Foulkes says about HMFC the article?
67

doris karloff,

29/04/2008 20:38:47
The man is a two faced, psycophantic buffoon
68

Joak,

TIMBUCK TOO 30/04/2008 07:03:01
It wis a greater man than me who once said .."ye see yon Birkie, ca'd a Lord wha struts and stares an' a' that......." Aye,Lord Muck fae stoory castle right enuff!
69

Bleeding Heart...,

30/04/2008 19:33:17
I hadn't realised I was in the company of the Celestial Host.

Who? You know, those who have never sinned. Those who have never put a foot wrong, never made the wrong choice, never crossed the line.

Those for whom the saying "Let he is without sin, etc" simply doesn't apply. An exalted bunch, indeed.

Gentlemen, as a mere mortal, I am clearly not worthy to be in this company, this gathering of The Elect...
70

SAME RULES APPLY !!!,

30/04/2008 21:05:52
"Those for whom the saying "Let he is without sin, etc" simply doesn't apply"

I've never assaulted a polisman while bladdered on free whisky. Then again I am not lucky enough to get an invite because I support a "far inferior sporting organisation"

You are right Brother Bleeds it doesn't apply.

Only SAME RULES APPLY !!!

 

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